Quotes of the day
posted at 9:16 pm on August 18, 2012 by Allahpundit
On the campaign trail this week, Ryan’s discussion of Medicare has focused on President Obama’s taking $716 billion from Medicare to pay for Obamacare, along with brief reassurances that he and Mitt Romney will protect the program. But in Florida today, Ryan put Medicare front and center. He both stepped up his attacks on Obamacare’s plan to change Medicare for current seniors and made a positive case for reforming the program for Americans under the age of 55. Ryan warned that Obamacare installed a board of bureaucrats that will “cut Medicare in ways that will lead to denied care for current seniors.” And he framed his case for reform in terms of family values -— in terms of his own obligation to protect Medicare as it is today for his mother, and to reform it in his generation so that his children will benefit from a social safety net and a debt-free nation…
Ryan explained that “in order to make sure we can guarantee that promise for my mom’s generation for those baby boomers retiring every day, we must reform it for my generation. To save it for this generation, you have to reform it for my generation, so it doesn’t go bankrupt when we want to retire.”…
And what did “Boston”—i.e., Romney headquarters—think of the event? One source said, “‘Boston’ was nervous early this morning. They watched it on TV. At first they were relieved. Then they were excited.”
That’s the genius of Romney’s vice-presidential pick: It explicitly invites Americans to “do the right thing.” Insofar as he’s known to the electorate at all, Paul Ryan is the man with the plan — the guy who understands that multi-trillion-dollar spendaholic government cannot continue. On that subject, Obama is the man with no plan, and no plans to get any plan. Yet the mere selection of Ryan has already improved the quality of the Obama campaign: Two weeks ago, they were denouncing Romney for killing a woman by cunningly giving her cancer five years after laying off her husband. Now they’re denouncing Ryan for killing off Medicare. The former is the opening scene from the straight-to-video Carcinogenic Zombie Mormon Venture Capitalist Apocalypse; the latter has a very very teensy-weensy gossamer thread of connection to the issues facing the United States. So we should congratulate the Democrats on a modest re-acquaintance with reality. With Ryan on the ticket, the central question facing America can’t be ducked…
For the record, Obama has already made $716 billion in Medicare cuts to pay for Obamacare. That’s three-quarters of a trillion. The German chancellor, Angela Merkel, was in Ottawa last week asking Her Majesty’s Canadian Government to chip in for the euro-zone bailout. The euro zone includes some of the richest nations in history, but it’s still not enough. And the entire euro-zone bailout is $450 billion — or a little over half the cost of the first Obama stimulus. Under Obama’s no-plan plan, there’s not enough money on the planet.
Republican strategists believe that there is really only one way to win the Medicare message wars: mount a bruising offense and attack Democrats for their own actions surrounding the popular federal health care program for senior citizens…
“It caught the Democrats a little off-guard that the fight’s being taken to them on an issue that they thought they’d just play defense on,” Stutzman said. “I just think this thing is really smart on a lot of levels that are not being appreciated: bringing up the issue now because it’s going to be brought up anyway, litigate it and win it now or at least fight it to a draw — which I’m absolutely convinced they can do — and that returns the October debate to jobs and the economy and now you’re back to a referendum on the incumbent.”…
Ultimately, though, the endgame for the Romney team on Medicare is to use the issue to move the discussion back to jobs and the economy, which is where the campaign wants the focus to be heading into Election Day. That isn’t an argument, however, that fits neatly into a soudbite.
“Romney can win this argument, but not until he finds a way to shift it back to the economy,” said Dan Schnur, director of the Jesse M. Unruh Institute of Politics at the University of Southern California and a veteran GOP strategist. “There are connectors between Medicare and deficits and economic growth.”
If the past week has been any indication, the Democrats are not well prepared to deal with this strategy. I doubt they wanted to spend a week explaining why and how they cut Medicare for current seniors while still failing to avert the program’s future collapse. They’re still struggling to explain that, and with their first few excuses — we didn’t do it, Ryan did it too, they’re not real cuts, and seniors don’t really need those benefits we cut — mostly fallen by the wayside in a matter of days, they have turned to abject double counting, insisting that even though they spent the money elsewhere (on Obamacare), their Medicare cuts nonetheless increase the future solvency of the Medicare program…
The longer they flail, the less likely the Democrats are to be able to effectively bring up Medicare themselves in this election season, and the more likely Romney is to keep voters focused on the economy in the fall—and therefore focused on what they like least about the incumbent president. It’s easy to see what Romney will be running on in September and October. But what will Obama be running on?
“Like a lot of Americans, when I think about Medicare, it’s not just a program,” Ryan told the mostly-elderly crowd at The Villages, a central Florida retirement community that is billed as the world’s largest. “It’s what my mom relies on. It’s what my grandma had.”…
“Medicare was there for our family, for my grandma, when we needed it then, and Medicare is there for my mom while she needs that now, and we need to keep that guaranteed,” the 42-year-old House Budget Committee chairman said, describing the experience of being one of the primary caregivers for his grandmother, who suffered from advanced Alzheimer’s.
Obama expressed some artificial bemusement that the GOP ticket has focused on in recent days on Medicare, with Romney using a whiteboard as a prop Friday in South Carolina and Ryan stumping Saturday with his mother in The Villages retirement community in Florida.
“You’d think they’d avoid talking about Medicare, given the fact that both of them have proposed to voucherize the Medicare system,” Obama said. I guess they figured the best defense is playing on offense.”…
“Their plan would put Medicare on track to be ended as we know it,” he said. “It would be an entirely different plan. It would be a plan in which you could not count on health care because it would have to come out of your pocket. That’s the real difference between our plans on Medicare. That’s the choice in this election and that’s why I’m running for a second term as president.”
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blame “our society”
Cool. My bad, Dawg.
CycloneCDB on April 22, 2013 at 7:39 PM
Lindsay will not be primaried. Too many folks in SC depend on cheap illegal immigrant labor and they will back him. Lots of low info Pub. voters in SC who think Lindsay is great.
they lie on April 22, 2013 at 7:40 PM
I hear you..:)
PS..The Royal Canadian Mounted Police are top of the line..:)
Dire Straits on April 22, 2013 at 7:41 PM
FloatingRock on April 22, 2013 at 5:14 PM
Indeed.
AesopFan on April 22, 2013 at 7:43 PM
Terry E, channeling Rubio, channeling his inner Schumer. You are all a bunch of lying liberal twits. The system isn’t “broken”; we just refuse to enforce the law, and when the inevitable flood of invaders comes, you identify with the invaders and not with your fellow Americans.
Illegal immigration is not healthy, and is illegal. By first enabling, then tolerating, and then rewarding illegal immigration, you are actively pursuing the destruction of this country. And remember … I’m a moderate on the illegal invasion. I would give them legal residency the moment the border is fully secure, and probably agree to a program which eventually allows citizenship.
But these lying scum have no plan to secure the border and are driven by an amnesty lust with disregard for the border.
Jaibones on April 22, 2013 at 7:50 PM
I am sooo with you on this. Just emailed Boehner (for the good it will do).
vamp57mw on April 22, 2013 at 7:51 PM
From Heritage Foundation:
http://blog.heritage.org/2013/04/19/immigration-bill-spending-a-trojan-horse/
Some of the specifics:
INC on April 22, 2013 at 7:53 PM
Don’t blame either, blame the Tsarnaevs.
The party of personal responsibility seems to have lost its way.
rukiddingme on April 22, 2013 at 8:01 PM
Certainly did, and as much as I admire Lincoln, he didn’t say that.
William John Henry Boetcker (1873–1962) did in 1916.
rukiddingme on April 22, 2013 at 8:04 PM
Pardon my language, but FUGOP.
DrMagnolias on April 22, 2013 at 8:17 PM
That Rubio “charm offensive” wore off and became merely offensive rather quickly.
Slavery
Nativist
Society (i.e., you and me) is to blame for the Tsarnaevs.
Last time around Republican amnesty pushers thought insulting Americans was the best way to win. They’re doing it again. It’s interesting how D.C.’s contempt for the citizens who are their bosses always comes out on this issue.
INC on April 22, 2013 at 8:30 PM
Take a flying leap.
Thanks for holding this guy accountable, AP and HotAir. Rubio needs to find someone less inflammatory to those who are supposed to be on his side. If he’s smart, he will.
tdau1997 on April 22, 2013 at 8:31 PM
I knew we were screwed when Rubio made his trip to Wall Street.
Wigglesworth on April 22, 2013 at 8:35 PM
I still can’t believe Alex Conant actually compared illegal aliens to slavery.
No one captured, sold or forcibly brought them to the country.
His e-mail excuse is simply a lie to try to walk back what he said. His clear intent was an old propaganda technique—doing some name calling of opponents by implying they were the equivalents of slavers.
That’s ratcheting things up a bit from merely calling us bigots or xenophobic.
INC on April 22, 2013 at 8:37 PM
Kind of sad to see what’s happened to her. She’s been on HA a long time but hasn’t been around much recently. She showed up a few days ago and went on a similar rant in support of the Toomey/Obama gun control measures and then disappeared.
Doomberg on April 22, 2013 at 9:12 PM
Every damn week the GOP, the party I used to vote for, gives the rest of us yet another reason to blow them off. Now it’s Rubio’s spokesman saying that people who are anti-amnesty are pro-slavery. We voters get told at election time that we have to vote GOP to keep the Democrats out of power, but what the hell good does that do if the two parties are more and more pushing for the same things?
I’m really coming around to the idea that there is no political solution for our problems and that nothing is really going to be solved in the voting booth anymore — not unless the current system is overturned or collapses.
Aitch748 on April 22, 2013 at 9:27 PM
Rubio constantly tells us that it is impossible to deport 11 million people. Think about that? So by his reasoning he is admitting that the whole immigration debate is useless. Why even bother if you are a Repub? Whats in it for you? I know whats in it for the Dems, 11 million guaranteed new Dem voters. If by your own admission you cannot get rid of the illegals then you are admitting you can do nothing to stop any more coming in. Essentially open borders. In a sane world where we were being ruled by sane people elected by sane, informed voters the only debate we would be hearing about was what size and form a border fence should take, how many additional armed border agents would it take to staff it and how long it would take to construct it. But we don’t live in a sane world. About the only thing I can guarantee is that Rubio,s political aspirations as a Repub are done. What we have ladies and gentlemen is a future Jumpin Jim Jeffords. Look for Rubio to switch parties in 3…2…1
neyney on April 22, 2013 at 9:31 PM
The Gang of Eight has become a sick joke as everyone knows the aides do all the thinking.
VorDaj on April 22, 2013 at 9:33 PM
Rubio is a serial user and abuser of straw men. Nothing but a mini-me Obama now.
VorDaj on April 22, 2013 at 9:37 PM
i don’t know what his angle was but I do believe that some of the biggest supporters of amnesty want them simply because they can pay them a lot less, and treat them a lot worse, than they would have to pay, and treat, Americans. They would probably like to pay them nothing.
VorDaj on April 22, 2013 at 9:44 PM
If our society is a problem then we’d be doing immigrants a favor by making it really difficult to stay here where they risk becoming infected by it.
Bennett on April 22, 2013 at 9:46 PM
I would say we did great in 2010 with a conservative message.
I would but Hot Air removes every post that says that.
Hello Hot Air Gestapo.
Steveangell on April 22, 2013 at 9:48 PM
Our?
The root causes of terrorism are found in places that inspire, encourage, and are positive toward jihad and violence, where highly Shari’a-adherent behavior is practiced, and where a society exists that in some form promotes a culture of martyrdom or at least engages in activities that are supportive of violent jihad. Where can we possibly find this environment in “our society”? If American Muslims, (native-born as well as naturalized), are being radicalized, isn’t it being done by Islamists?
Mosques like the Islamic Society of Boston must be the first society that undergoes scrutiny.
lynncgb on April 22, 2013 at 9:49 PM
The Dirty Little “Secret”: The reason that politician supporters of “Comprehensive Immigration Reform” want it is so that they and/or their campaign contributors can have serf labor. They would probably prefer actual out-and-out slaves but that is illegal. “Comprehensive Immigration Reform” Democrats, like Obama, also want it so that those who are now illegal can become legal and vote for them, if they aren’t voting for them already.
Does anyone think that any of these “Comprehensive Immigration Reform” politicians actually care one wit otherwise for the illegals. Does anyone think that any of the “Comprehensive Immigration Reform” politicians are going to invite these Mexican Indios and Mezclados to join their elite/exclusive golf clubs? Come to live in their gated communities, other than as servants? Invite them to their yachts, other than as low paid deck hands and/or servants? Invite them to their cocktail parties? Introduce them to their daughters?
The big majority of the Mexicans who have come here/will come here are Indios and Mezclados, not the Spanish descendant fair-skinned ruling class of Mexico. This is a form of ethnic cleansing by Mexico’s ruling class. So these “Comprehensive Immigration Reform” politicians are aiding and abetting and facilitating ethnic cleansing. If the U.N. were not such a joke, they would all be standing trial for trying to reintroduce a form of latter-day-slavery in the United States and for the mass ethnic cleansing of Mexico.
VorDaj on April 22, 2013 at 10:10 PM
I’ve only been here and able to comment for a little while, but I’ve been lurking for awhile. Terrye can always be counted on to bring the RINO side to the party.
RovesChins on April 22, 2013 at 10:34 PM
I’m not going to try to talk Republicans out of political suicide this time. I read Paul Ryan is pushing this traitorous bill and I heard Grover Norquist schilling for it today. They can go ahead and pass it. I’m through fighting them. They can compete with the democrats for La Raza’s endorsement.
bluesdoc70 on April 22, 2013 at 10:53 PM
Oh, so it’s our fault? Fcuk you, a$$holes.
Ward Cleaver on April 22, 2013 at 11:29 PM
This guy and the Chechnian president who commented a few days ago are wrong where they’re coming from but right in a way without even knowing it. Hear me out – we have to take some of the blame when we allow our society to be castrated by socialists and political correctness and pussyfoot round terrorists and an evil political ideology that pretends to be a religion. We’ve got to start fighting back for real and if that means dumping our so-called conservative parties that are really centre-left vote grubbers then so be it. The alternative will be fighting on the streets in 20 or 30 years time (or maybe as little as 10 in some European countries).
The Thin Man Returns on April 22, 2013 at 11:46 PM
Comprehensive Immigration reform is code word for amnesty for PEOPLE that HIRE illegal labor!
Maybe the slavery of being held accountable for hireing illegal labor is what the Rubio spokesman was referring to. Cooking the books and stiffing BOTH the workers and the government of cash is a major burden on the lawless.
Look for massive amounts of cash to be exchanged among the corrupt people that hire illegal labor and desire this amnesty. Remember that once this amnesty becomes law, ALL of these criminal employers are ‘free at last’.
As a point of interest, in the 1986 amnesty it was disclosed that MANY members of congress, like Pelosi and Feinstein, had hired illegal alien nanies. Of course, they both voted for an amnesty for themselves in 1986 and they will vote for ANOTHER amnesty for their current illegal hiring activities!
The vast majority of the corrupt politicians in Washington have no use for any law that interrupts their desire for money and power! One needs to look no farther than their quiet repeal of the STOCK act last week to see the depth of the corruption. I guess they were all about to be prosecuted for using inside information to STEAL!
Freddy on April 23, 2013 at 12:57 AM
Alert readers will notice that the gang of eight left out rules about Chechnyan terrorists and Saudi radicals being able to move freely around the country. Yes, they thought this was just about approving a few more gardeners and leaf-blowers from Mexico (and their small and productive families).
Obama wants this to crash with Rubio in the driving seat. Schumer, Graham and McCain can come back to this issue any time they want. Bennet and Flak are just happy to be in the news. Rubio may know now it’s a disaster but he wants to be the only GOP hopeful who tried. Menendez is just thinking about his next unsupervised trip south of the border.
Yeah, let’s come back to this immigration thing when we’ve stabilized the security problem and the inability of government to protect citizens from easily-identifiable lunatics and enemies of society.
virgo on April 23, 2013 at 1:37 AM
We don’t have to deport 11 million criminals all at once. But we do have to make it clear that, when we find them, we deport them.
It should be made clear to the criminals, they are a hunted people.
JackM on April 23, 2013 at 7:06 AM
You mean the society that keeps re-electing you moronic nitwits back into Congress over and over again, thus assuring this country will fall deeper into a quagmire than it already has?
Hey, if that is the case, you have no argument from me!
pilamaye on April 23, 2013 at 8:32 AM
I’m sorry, what were you saying? I was busy watching a bunch of swat teams/feds going door to door in Watertown MA, with “weapons of war” looking for one lone teen terrorist that a resident found with they unlocked the lockdown. Maybe we need more TSA agents groping people? Or we could actually enforce laws? Nah, just pass more laws that do nothing and aren’t enforced.
oryguncon on April 23, 2013 at 10:30 AM
Cue Oingo Boingo, “Only A Lad.”
ConservativeLA on April 23, 2013 at 10:31 AM
It is not necessary to eat an elephant in one bite. Just deport the ones you can grab. And do that every day. Fill up one extra bus in each of 5 major cities per day and drive it to Mexico. It won’t solve the problem. But it will make a start.
SunSword on April 23, 2013 at 11:46 AM
The country is finished.
alanstern on April 23, 2013 at 12:46 PM
A “GOP Senatorial Aide”?
No, just another “San Francisco, Blame-Amerika-First, Democrat”!
Fire him, and his boss.
Another Drew on April 23, 2013 at 1:20 PM
So ridiculous; this was obviously brought on by Global Warming.
RINO in Name Only on April 23, 2013 at 2:06 PM
I am a bit disturbed by a group of 8 Senators working in secret to create a bill away from their colleagues, then trying to foist that bill upon them and rush it to a vote before anyone can read, interpret and measure its effects on our country.
In the old days, we called this oligarchical and anti-democratic.
We’ve structured our Senate around 100 people who represent all states. Not 8 who purport to possess some special wisdom and seek through brute force, obscurity, back-room deals and demagoguery to impose their will upon us.
That process is not wise, measured or constitutional by any standard. What do they fear from open debate, opinion and fact finding- the truth?
On that process alone I won’t support this bill or the senators who have sponsored it.
Marcus Traianus on April 23, 2013 at 2:23 PM
Wouldn’t it be nice if it actually said: Pro-Gun Control Democrat Senate aide: Don’t blame Guns for the mass shootings, blame “our society”
stuartm80127 on April 23, 2013 at 2:35 PM
The gang of ocho.
When are all these traitors in the government going to swing?
sablegsd on April 23, 2013 at 4:00 PM
If anything, the fault lies with our society and domestic intelligence services.
Allah, you deliberately smeared the man. He obviously talking about our inability to track these people when they are right in front of us.
Terrye on April 23, 2013 at 4:19 PM
I wrote Rubio and told him that if he ever voted for a bill that granted citizenship to an illegal alien “EVER”, I would consider him in the same class and Obama, Reid and Pelosi. He’ll be done as a Republican and may as well change parties.
cajunpatriot on April 23, 2013 at 5:34 PM
Shouldn’t any nation which desires to survive as a political entity harbor “nativist sentiments”in light of its invasion by well over 11 million uninvited foreigners?
redware on April 23, 2013 at 7:31 PM
Lindsey Graham will be primaried.The question is whether it will be a viable conservative alternative with enough name recognition and a sufficient warchest who does it.And whoever it may be best start now,since Graham is already conning people with ads boasting about his conservative bona fides.Graham has gotten away with this for years,primarily because he has a huge warchest that targets a demographic that proclaims to be conservatives but have little knowledge of Graham’s heresy.
redware on April 23, 2013 at 7:38 PM
Good Lord!!!
mmcnamer1 on April 23, 2013 at 11:01 PM
I agree, this is the process used to get Obamacare and look what we got.
It’s OK for “Gang-of” politicians to launch trial-balloons but they cannot speak for representatives as a whole. They had no business drafting the actual legislation. They need to be punished by the voters for this.
virgo on April 24, 2013 at 2:08 AM
Why on God’s green earth do republicans think they’ll be punished if they don’t support ‘amnesty’? Did blacks punish democrats for fighting against the civil rights act in the 1960′s? Did blacks reward republicans for overwhelmingly supporting this legislation back in the 60′s?
The prosecution rests.
olesparkie on April 24, 2013 at 1:15 PM
Question: What do you get when you cross a giant maxi pad with an amoral, lying sellout? Answer: Lindsey Graham.
Conservchik on April 24, 2013 at 10:54 PM
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