Exclusive interview: Bruce Herschensohn, Obama’s Globe

posted at 11:31 am on August 18, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

When I was offered an opportunity to interview Pepperdine senior fellow and author Bruce Herschensohn, once the Republican nominee for US Senate against Barbara Boxer in 1992, I leaped at the chance.  Herschensohn had been a fixture on Los Angeles television for 14 years, engaging in spirited but respectful debates with former Senator John Tunney on KABC on the entire range of political issues.  In a very real sense, I got a good deal of my political education from those installments, which began in my teen years.

As you’ll soon discover for yourself, Bruce Herschensohn is still as sharp, incisive, and delightful as ever.  His new book, Obama’s Globe: A President’s Abandonment of US Allies Around the World, examines Barack Obama’s record on what Herschensohn thinks should be the real focus of any presidential election: foreign policy.  It’s been very telling that the Obama campaign has barely mentioned it, but certainly understandable.  We discuss a number of fumbled hot spots in our 35-minute conversation, including Egypt, where both Herschensohn and I think Obama may have done the worst job of all.  We revisit Obama’s weird alliance with the Castro brothers and Hugo Chavez on Honduras, the betrayal of Poland and the Czech Republic on missile defense, the mystery of our abandonment of the UK on the Falkland Islands, and of course the incompetence of Obama’s handling of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

All of this is in his book, of course, so be sure to pick up Obama’s Globe at the bookstore or from the Amazon link.  Herschensohn picked the release date deliberately in order to make foreign policy a larger topic in the upcoming election.  And by the way, Herschensohn tells me during the first part of the interview that Senator Tunney is doing well, and that the two of them remain close friends.  He’s still teaching lessons in politics after all these years, and I hope you enjoy this one.

Maybe we’ll circle back and speak more with Bruce Herschenson closer to the election.

Update: I wrote “Chavez brothers” instead of Castro brothers, the result of a re-edit and a failure to double-check it. I’ve fixed it.


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Perhaps you mean the Castro brothers.

NCC on August 18, 2012 at 11:36 AM

Ed: THANKS for dresging up this BAD California memory…

O/T: /BISHOP!!

Khun Joe on August 18, 2012 at 11:37 AM

SmartUR power, right?

Which covers crucifixions during Spring in Egypt right?

PappyD61 on August 18, 2012 at 11:38 AM

No surprise here. Not only does O’bama Hate America, he also has the least qualified “Secretary of State” in the history of the country running our foreign policy.

Del Dolemonte on August 18, 2012 at 11:42 AM

foreign policy. It’s been very telling that the Obama campaign has barely mentioned it,

…seems as if the government media doesn’t have any interest in foreign policy anymore either!…not to worry though!…by February it will all be Romney’s fault! …Mitt will have f’d up the whole middle east in the span of 30 days!

KOOLAID2 on August 18, 2012 at 11:47 AM

Bruce Herschensohn was a political hero of mine as well, back on Channel 7. He was a very persuasive advocate for conservative issues, but he was always a complete and considerate gentleman regardless the intensity of the debate. It was despicable what the Boxer camp did to him in ’92.

cartooner on August 18, 2012 at 11:54 AM

I voted for Mr. Herschensohn in 92. But unfortunately in California, the good guys rarely win.

Rose on August 18, 2012 at 11:59 AM

His book on the Vietnam war is worth looking into as well. A real eye opener.

LeftCoastRight on August 18, 2012 at 12:01 PM

Nothing that any other totally incompetent community organizer could accomplish. Thanks, you moron liberals.

ultracon on August 18, 2012 at 12:06 PM

I guess I mean “couldn’t accomplish”

ultracon on August 18, 2012 at 12:07 PM

Now this is worth watching.

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Amjean on August 18, 2012 at 12:14 PM

Ed, I appreciate you posting this. In the future could you possibly consider posting it as an audio clip?

Your lip and eyebrow movements really don’t add that much to the context, and the video format pretty much precludes any other activity while listening.

And it was a great interview.

applebutter on August 18, 2012 at 12:24 PM

Perhaps a good and quick read for Mr. Ryan pre-debate..

hillsoftx on August 18, 2012 at 12:25 PM

and of course the incompetence of Obama’s handling of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

“Incompetence”?? Barky took the Pali side all the way – as he takes the islamist side all the way in everything. It’s not “incompetence”. It’s hate of America and working against America’s interests – i.e. giving aid and comfort to our enemies and all the enemies of the West.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on August 18, 2012 at 12:56 PM

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bayview on August 18, 2012 at 12:06 PM

The recall affects 2006 models, way before the bailout.

Ward Cleaver on August 18, 2012 at 1:14 PM

Obama’s slight of England over the Falklands is probably due to his hatred of England over their colonization of Kenya.

Ward Cleaver on August 18, 2012 at 1:15 PM

Wayyyyyyyy back, when I got sent to CONUS for my next tour Bill was one of the voices of reason on the local point-counterpoint. Glad to see he still has the grass and not the roots to look at.

Limerick on August 18, 2012 at 1:16 PM

OT
Another Day, another GM recall
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GM is alive?

bayview on August 18, 2012 at 12:06 PM

At least they’re not bursting into flames.

hepcat on August 18, 2012 at 1:20 PM

Ed thanks for posting your interview with Bruce Herschensohn. I voted for him in ’92′ and I will never forget the low down dirty campaign Boxer ran.

D-Bar on August 18, 2012 at 3:09 PM

The three parts are worth listening to, but the frequent page reloads are annoyance.

Tip: to listen, right-click–copy URL & paste/go in a new tab.

And he (Herschensohn) is right… we won’t survive four more years on Dear Leader, for more than one reason.

Mr. Community Organizer’s indifference to foreign affairs (when he’s aiding the MB…) will come back to bite us in the butt.

CPT. Charles on August 18, 2012 at 3:10 PM

Great interview Ed. I volunteered for his 1992 campaign and spent a whole day in the car with him driving to and from meetings with bigwig donors and also a stop into then-Gov Wilson’s office.

This interview is pretty much exactly what Bruce sounded like and the way we talked about 1992 issues in the car all day.
Him mostly talking, me asking somewhat informed questions now and again.

I was mezmerized by his urbanity, geneality, wealth of knowledge and the courteous respect he showed a campaign vol he never met as if I was an informed colleague of many years. Courtly is a good word to use. The late great Richard Wirthlin who i was privileged to know had this exact same quality.

Bruce is more laid back having soaked in the LA sun for decades, but both men share a basic sense of professionalism, respect and generous treatment of lower animals that I found irresistable as a young pup and try try try to emulate in my pro career and life generally.

a SuperPAC somewhere ought to fund a town hall speaking tour for Bruce during the fall campaign. I wouldnt bother doing any in California, but he would kill in swing states.

Sacramento on August 18, 2012 at 3:11 PM

We cannot forget his abandonment of those in Iran who tried to rise up and oust the nutjob, Ahmedinejad.

Jvette on August 18, 2012 at 3:34 PM

Well this guy gets it. Sure wish Mitt would listen to him.

Mubarack should still be the Dictator of Egypt. The alternative is far worse.

Steveangell on August 18, 2012 at 4:14 PM

Now this is worth watching.

Suggestion -
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expand.

And you can still get the traffic from the small minds and trolls
by posting about Ryan’s six pack or something.

Amjean on August 18, 2012 at 12:14 PM

Indeed.

As to the Saul Alinsky Trolls this would bring back the conservatives these trolls have chased off that otherwise will stay away till after Mitt loses or never come back in the event he won.

I detest them celebrating any bad news for Palin. Most of this bad news made by people like them.

Steveangell on August 18, 2012 at 4:33 PM

We cannot forget his abandonment of those in Iran who tried to rise up and oust the nutjob, Ahmedinejad.

Jvette on August 18, 2012 at 3:34 PM

Perhaps you’re on the wrong thread? Bruce Herschensohn has precisely zero to do with Ahmanutjob.

BillH on August 18, 2012 at 4:55 PM

Ed Morrissey: Neoconservative redistributionist.

Dante on August 18, 2012 at 5:15 PM

I think it is time for Hot Air to include more thought provoking
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Amjean on August 18, 2012 at 12:14 PM

You’re making the mistake in believing this is a conservative site. It isn’t.

Dante on August 18, 2012 at 5:21 PM

I think it is time for Hot Air to include more thought provoking
video/commentary from great conservative minds.

Amjean on August 18, 2012 at 12:14 PM

You’re making the mistake in believing this is a conservative site. It isn’t.

Dante on August 18, 2012 at 5:21 PM

That is right I suppose.

Now it as a Democratic Site just like Mitt Romney the Democrat.

Steveangell on August 18, 2012 at 5:51 PM

We cannot forget his abandonment of those in Iran who tried to rise up and oust the nutjob, Ahmedinejad.

Jvette on August 18, 2012 at 3:34 PM
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Perhaps you’re on the wrong thread? Bruce Herschensohn has precisely zero to do with Ahmanutjob.

BillH on August 18, 2012 at 4:55 PM

I do believe that when JVette said ‘his abandonment’ that s/he was talking about Obama’s utter failure to offer any encouragement to those who were trying to free themselves from the yoke of Iranian Islamo-idiocy.

Siddhartha Vicious on August 18, 2012 at 6:02 PM

To characterize these Obama moves as “fumbled” suggests a lack of itentionality. But Obama isn’t a Carteresque fool, but an ideologue well-steeped in anti-American collegiate intellectualism. A far better football metaphor for his weak foreign policy decisions would be “punted.” Obama isn’t messing things up, he’s attempting to send a calculated message: The United States is no longer a leader. We are not exceptional. We are just one amongst many. Viewed through this lens, most if not all of Obama’s policies (both foreign and domestic) make perfect sense. His dreams for this country have never involved the achievement of great things. Rather, they have always involved a gradual slump into European (at best) mediocrity.

Blacklake on August 19, 2012 at 12:11 PM

a SuperPAC somewhere ought to fund a town hall speaking tour for Bruce during the fall campaign. I wouldnt bother doing any in California, but he would kill in swing states.
Sacramento on August 18, 2012 at 3:11 PM

“Sacramento,” I forwarded your wonderful comments in their entirety to Bruce. He is humbled by such remarks and extremely grateful to you and everyone who supported him during the campaign. Thank you!

If you’re on Facebook, I hope you’ll send me a friend request.

Angela Toft on August 19, 2012 at 2:59 PM

Mubarack should still be the Dictator of Egypt. The alternative is far worse.

Steveangell on August 18, 2012 at 4:14 PM

Yes, but Mr Mubarak is 84 years old and too sick to be anything more than a figurehead. Even without the “Arab Spring” a change in leadership within the year was almost very likely.

YiZhangZhe on August 19, 2012 at 5:29 PM