Too good to check: Hillary turned down VP slot … two weeks ago

posted at 9:21 am on August 17, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Did Hillary Clinton turn down the opportunity to replace Joe Biden as soon as two weeks ago in a White House lunch with Valerie Jarrett?  Ed Klein, author of “The Amateur,” says his sources in the Hillary camp say it’s true in an appearance last night on CNBC with Larry Kudlow.  Not only did she turn Obama down, but according to Klein, Obama’s “socialistic policies” are part of the reason the presumed 2016 frontrunner wants to maintain her distance from the campaign:

“Up until just a couple of weeks ago the White House was putting out feelers to see if Hillary would accept the vice-presidential nod and replace Joe Biden,” Klein said. “Bill Clinton was, I’m told, urging his wife to accept the number two slot. He saw this as a great launching pad for her for running in 2016.”

“But then Hillary had lunch in the White House a couple of weeks ago with Valerie Jarrett — Michelle [Obama]’s best friend, senior adviser to both the first lady and the president … and she told Valerie that she would not accept the vice president’s spot. The lunch was ostensibly about other matters, but it came up. … Hillary felt burned out after four years as Secretary of State. But I’m told there were more important reasons for her not accepting.”

Those reasons, Klein explained, involve the former first lady being put in positions that would make her vulnerable if she should decide to run for president four years from now.

“She felt that if she were on the ticket with Obama and he lost, she would be tarred as a loser when she tried to run in 2016,” Klein said. “On the other hand, if she was on the ticket and he won, and he continued his far left-wing socialistic policies, she’d have to defend those policies when she ran in 2016.”

Valerie Jarrett was supposedly the intermediary, because according to Klein, Obama doesn’t trust Bill Clinton.  Had Obama himself extended the offer, Klein’s sources say that Obama believes his Democratic predecessor would have leaked it to make him look desperate.  Aren’t four references to Seamus The Roof Riding Dog enough to leave that impression as it is?  Besides, someone’s leaking it if Klein’s sources are accurate.

Speaking of desperate, guess who’s getting his second vacation this month?

Vice President Joe Biden is going home to Delaware.

The updated White House calendar for Aug. 17 reports that “in the morning, the Vice President will meet with senior advisers. Later, the Vice President will be in Wilmington, Delaware.”

“There are no public events scheduled,” said the 5:36 p.m. White House announcement, titled “Daily Guidance for the Vice President.” …

A review of Biden’s schedule for the last several weeks shows that he’s been kept on a very short chain, and has spent many days in Delaware, rather than on the campaign trail or even at the Vice-President’s mansion in D.C.

On the week starting Monday Aug 6, he had no campaign events scheduled. In the prior week, he was scheduled to attend only three campaign events. In the prior week, starting Monday July 23, he attend a firefighters’ convention in Palm Beach, Fla., a police convention in Philadelphia, and an one additional “campaign event” in Washington D.C.

Kudlow asks Klein the rhetorical question that’s been on everyone’s mind since last week: Can you imagine the Ryan-Biden debate coming up?  Unfortunately for the White House, everyone can imagine what the outcome will be, at least.  Sending Sheriff Joe into the Obama hoosegow for a week won’t change that, although it will finally give the media an opportunity to start talking about Paul Ryan.  Timothy Dalrymple thinks it’s already too late to win the “heartbeat away” contest after Biden’s last week on the campaign trail:

Anyone else wondering why so many Romney surrogates and conservative pundits are jumping into the attack against Biden?  Sarah Palin, Rudy Giuliani, John McCain, all suggesting that Obama should abandon Biden.  They don’t actually want him to replace Biden with Hillary, of course; that would make for a much stronger Dem ticket.  But, knowing that Obama won’t abandon Biden, they argue that he should, in order to make the point that Biden is unfit to be Vice President. …

I’m not knocking it.  It’s all justified.  Ryan is a fantastic choice for VP, and the thought of President Biden is truly frightening.  But these criticisms of Biden seem coordinated and intended to place the emphasis on Obama’s dubious choice for Vice President, intended to make the argument that you should be much more afraid of a President Biden than a President Ryan.  The choice of the VP candidate is important in part because it speaks to the ability of the candidate for the Presidency to make sound decisions.  Before the Dems even got a chance to attack Ryan, Republicans were able to turn the current Vice President into Exhibit A in the argument against Obama’s sound judgment.

In other words, just when the Dems wanted to make the argument, “Do you really want Rep. Ryan a heartbeat away from the Presidency?” Republicans were able to make an even stronger argument, “Do you really want Joe Biden a heartbeat away from the Presidency?”  Brilliant.

Brilliant, or just incredibly fortunate? Perhaps a little of both.

Update: I’m skeptical about whether this took place, and whether Obama can even make a switch at all at this point. But I don’t think Hillary would be the best choice anyway. He’d be better off trying to convince Evan Bayh or even Michael Bloomberg to sign on. I’m not sure either man would want the job, but Bayh isn’t doing anything else at the moment. And Bayh would have been a better choice in 2008, too.


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The vice-presidential debate is going to be glorious…

Shump on August 17, 2012 at 9:24 AM

You cross the Clintons at your peril, as Obama is finding out.

Drained Brain on August 17, 2012 at 9:24 AM

Don’t blame you Hillary

I wouldn’t want to defend him either

cmsinaz on August 17, 2012 at 9:26 AM

But don’t hold your breath.

Remember the hatchet job movie about former Governor Palin and the 2008 campaign? There is a great script here, just waiting for Hollywood to do the right thing.

IlikedAUH2O on August 17, 2012 at 9:26 AM

So with Hillary safely away from vp, I can say with certitude that Bill will say (at the Convention): “For the good of the party and the good of the country, do not give this man four more years.”

nobar on August 17, 2012 at 9:26 AM

The vice-presidential debate is going to be glorious…

Shump on August 17, 2012 at 9:24 AM

I can hear the harp music. Harp seals that is. When Ryan clubs Biteme.

CW on August 17, 2012 at 9:27 AM

the socialist thinks the commie will rub the bad cooties off on her….

smirky smirk.

super sized desperation /comeuppance itch sandwich- and barry is the meat .

sweet!

mittens on August 17, 2012 at 9:29 AM

As if Hillary would have made any difference?

bgibbs1000 on August 17, 2012 at 9:29 AM

Well, I sure hope Klein is right about Shrillary, and I agree with her purported reasoning (but can’t imagine that BJ urged her otherwise).

But I’m still holding my breath. It ain’t over ’til the fat lady sings.

petefrt on August 17, 2012 at 9:29 AM

I think the Democratic Convention is gonna be real interesting.

esr1951 on August 17, 2012 at 9:29 AM

Hillary did the same condescending to a black audience fake southern accent thing during the 2008 campaign. So Biden’s mistake wasn’t doing what your average liberal Democratic pol does when he/she is pandering in front of a key special interest group; it was doing it a time when the focus was on the differences between Biden and Ryan as candidates, and even the big media was starting to question whether or not they can carry this guy across the finish line (ABC’s Martha Raddatz is going to have one of the toughest jobs of the campaign season, in trying to play guardian angel to Sheriff Joe as debate moderator. She really can make her career in the big media if she can not just lead Joe through the minefield, but somehow deliver a ‘gotcha’ question to Ryan that night).

jon1979 on August 17, 2012 at 9:30 AM

I saw Mike Wallace on Fox and Friends this morning very adamently saying that he didn’t believe this happened. (I also saw a picture of Mike Wallace partying at George Clooney’s estate in Italy, which I found kind of funny- is Wallace a closet lib?!)

BettyRuth on August 17, 2012 at 9:30 AM

A review of Biden’s schedule for the last several weeks shows that he’s been kept on a very short chain, and has spent many days in Delaware, rather than on the campaign trail or even at the Vice-President’s mansion in D.C.

No wonder Biden had chains on his mind, such that he has a mind.

onlineanalyst on August 17, 2012 at 9:30 AM

She sees this failboat going down and she is not letting it drag her down with it.

At the State Dept, she was able to stay out of the domestic issue debates that have dominated the discussion, and leave her room to contrast her positions with O’Failure. The Clintons are not emotional or sentimental, and they are not ideologues. They are smart and calculating.

Greek Fire on August 17, 2012 at 9:30 AM

That means the internal polls with real numbers had tanked for Barry over 2 weeks ago.

bayview on August 17, 2012 at 9:31 AM

ROFL

How desperate is Barky that he has to beg the woman he vilified in 2008 to come and save him from himself.

Sweet justice, you slack-jawed loser.

Bishop on August 17, 2012 at 9:32 AM

The professional doormat is no better than either Obama or Biden, so why this makes a difference I have no idea.

NoDonkey on August 17, 2012 at 9:32 AM

But I’m still holding my breath. It ain’t over ’til the fat lady sings.

petefrt on August 17, 2012 at 9:29 AM

She was last seen dancing up a storm in Africa.

onlineanalyst on August 17, 2012 at 9:32 AM

Who woulda thunk? Payback actually is a bitch!

Valkyriepundit on August 17, 2012 at 9:32 AM

I saw Mike Wallace on Fox and Friends this morning very adamently saying that he didn’t believe this happened. (I also saw a picture of Mike Wallace partying at George Clooney’s estate in Italy, which I found kind of funny- is Wallace a closet lib?!)

BettyRuth on August 17, 2012 at 9:30 AM

Are you having a Pelosi moment?

bayview on August 17, 2012 at 9:32 AM

Instead of harping on Romney’s tax returns, the media ought to be asking Obama if the American people should have confidence in the doofus occupying the bottom of his ticket. It’s clear the campaign doesn’t.

And the Hillary thing sounds a little too good to be true, especially the socialistic policies part (why would she object to them?).

changer1701 on August 17, 2012 at 9:33 AM

I may be overly enthusiastic, but don’t think anyone would want to The One’s Number Two. He’s a failed falling star.

BRunner on August 17, 2012 at 9:34 AM

If this is true then it further proves the utter desperation of Obama and it also proves that his internal polling shows that he is losing very badly…

mnjg on August 17, 2012 at 9:34 AM

So with Hillary safely away from vp, I can say with certitude that Bill will say (at the Convention): “For the good of the party and the good of the country, do not give this man four more years.”

nobar on August 17, 2012 at 9:26 AM

I’m anxious to see exactly which blade Bubba selects, but you just know he’s going to leave Obama’s blood on the convention floor.

Pablo on August 17, 2012 at 9:35 AM

I saw Mike Wallace on Fox and Friends this morning very adamently saying that he didn’t believe this happened. (I also saw a picture of Mike Wallace partying at George Clooney’s estate in Italy, which I found kind of funny- is Wallace a closet lib?!)

BettyRuth on August 17, 2012 at 9:30 AM

I think you mean Chris. Mike Wallace died earlier this year.

WisRich on August 17, 2012 at 9:35 AM

Still waiting for one of our Hot Gas Democrats here to tell me what her “qualifications” were to be the Junior U.S. Senator from New York, much less SOS or President.

Funny how no one here is confident enough to give us an answer…

Del Dolemonte on August 17, 2012 at 9:36 AM

In other words, just when the Dems wanted to make the argument, “Do you really want Rep. Ryan a heartbeat away from the Presidency?”

Uh, yes? What a stupid question by the Dems. Anyone who listens to Paul Ryan comes away quite comfortable with him being a heartbeat away.

Doughboy on August 17, 2012 at 9:36 AM

She was last seen dancing up a storm in Africa.

onlineanalyst on August 17, 2012 at 9:32 AM

Yep, I saw a picture of that. Wish I hadn’t.

petefrt on August 17, 2012 at 9:36 AM

She’s smarter than I’ve given her credit for.

But still there’s that Ah ain’t noways taaaaaard

Eren on August 17, 2012 at 9:36 AM

I wonder if Bill made a deal to speak at the convention. Bill gets a prime time spot and Obama has to offer Hillary the V.P. spot. Of course it was all a set-up. The whole thing was a final F U for the 2008 primary fight.

Howcome on August 17, 2012 at 9:37 AM

Hey, it’s an argument we’ve all made here since at least August of 2008. It matters not, however, if the punditry finally are coming around to Biden head-scratching now rather than then. It only matters that the MSM is finally starting to question the Obama mystique, because without the religious devotion of the journolistas there will be very little to support the president’s candidacy.

MTF on August 17, 2012 at 9:37 AM

So, Hillary is (possibly) out – but that doesn’t change the simple fact that obama is going to ELIMINATE Biden from the ticket. Biden’s days are numbered – obama must replace Biden by September 6 so that his new VP can be entered into nomination – the HOW, WHEN and WHO are all that remains.

Pork-Chop on August 17, 2012 at 9:37 AM

What recent events made Obama go from a -4 to a +1 in three days in Rasmussen?

Barry 46 Romney 45

bayview on August 17, 2012 at 9:37 AM

Every time they bring up Hillary running in 2016 all I can do is laugh. After 2008 the media proclaimed the death of the Republican Party, now it seems like our bench is stocked full, so full it’s a shame some of them won’t become the president. Meanwhile, the Democrats are turning to back to Clintons.

Who’s on their bench? Cuomo and Cory Booker? And Obama has done all he can to make Booker feel disconnected from the party. Congrats Dems, I haven’t felt this confident about Republican chances in a long time.

dernst2 on August 17, 2012 at 9:38 AM

I think you mean Chris. Mike Wallace died earlier this year.

WisRich on August 17, 2012 at 9:35 AM

Thank you- yes, I meant Chris! A Pelosi moment indeed. Please, more coffee.

BettyRuth on August 17, 2012 at 9:38 AM

The Clintons and Obamas dont like each other and Hill probably does not want to defend Barrys record. Hell hath no fury like a Clinton scorned. Payback time, Barry.

Philly on August 17, 2012 at 9:38 AM

Why does everyone presume that Shrillary will be the ’16 dem front runner? Her time is passed. She is a loser and needs to go home to NY so she can anticipate grandchildren. Don’t hold your breath for the vp debate, either. VP 20th Century will probably develop a cold the day before.

Kissmygrits on August 17, 2012 at 9:39 AM

I’m anxious to see exactly which blade Bubba selects, but you just know he’s going to leave Obama’s blood on the convention floor.

Pablo on August 17, 2012 at 9:35 AM

One thing that would demoralize the convention is if Hillary made the annoucement she was stepping down at the end of the term. Everyone already knows she’s going to but having her say it would be wet blanket on Obama’s party.

WisRich on August 17, 2012 at 9:40 AM

Instead of harping on Romney’s tax returns, the media ought to be asking Obama if the American people should have confidence in the doofus occupying the bottom of his ticket. It’s clear the campaign doesn’t.

And the Hillary thing sounds a little too good to be true, especially the socialistic policies part (why would she object to them?).

changer1701 on August 17, 2012 at 9:33 AM

I just read that the utterly desperate Obama campaign sent Romney a request stating that if Romney releases his last 5 years of his tax returns then they will stop attacking him on his taxes. LOL… these fools are losing so badly and they are deluding themselves that the Romney tax returns issue is going to make them win the elections… Romney is hysterically laughing at their latest request….

mnjg on August 17, 2012 at 9:40 AM

Wow, good times at the White House these days…

Hillary’s response:

No thanks, you Punk azz loser….

But all is not lost…Barry COULD ask Huma.

ToddPA on August 17, 2012 at 9:40 AM

Of course it’s true. Obama is trying to run on Bill’s record and he’s desperately pandering to women. No doubt in my mind he’s tried to get Hillary on the ticket.

I still wouldn’t be surprised if Biden ‘falls ill’ or whatever, but I doubt they will be able to get Hillary to replace him.

Who is the next most popular female Democrat?

forest on August 17, 2012 at 9:40 AM

The notion that Barack Obama is too socialistic for Hillary Clinton is laughable. Clinton is every bit the Progressive/Socialist, if not more so, than Obama. She’s just better at using euphemisms to hide it from the public.

If this story is true, her refusal to join the ticket is most likely due to the fact no one wants to be associated with the SCOAMF anymore. If for some God-awful reason Obama is reelected, I would expect Clinton to resign almost immediately. It will take a good four years to wash off Obama’s stench.

RobertE on August 17, 2012 at 9:40 AM

So, Hillary is (possibly) out – but that doesn’t change the simple fact that obama is going to ELIMINATE Biden from the ticket. Biden’s days are numbered – obama must replace Biden by September 6 so that his new VP can be entered into nomination – the HOW, WHEN and WHO are all that remains.

Pork-Chop on August 17, 2012 at 9:37 AM

I completely concur.

I hear Andrew Cuomo’s name bandied about. He wouldn’t have the Dem attaction that Hillary would, but he’s better than Biden.

I just hope it’s “deck chairs on the Titanic” mode.

Droopy on August 17, 2012 at 9:41 AM

Hillary didn’t want to release her tax returns

faraway on August 17, 2012 at 9:41 AM

Liz Warren?

faraway on August 17, 2012 at 9:42 AM

NEWS FLASH RED LIGHT NOTICE:

BIDENS WIFE HAS LOCKS CHANGED ON HOME says,,

“BIDEN DID NOT BUILD IT.!”

WHO WANTS HIM NOW?

APACHEWHOKNOWS on August 17, 2012 at 9:42 AM

So, Hillary is (possibly) out – but that doesn’t change the simple fact that obama is going to ELIMINATE Biden from the ticket. Biden’s days are numbered – obama must replace Biden by September 6 so that his new VP can be entered into nomination – the HOW, WHEN and WHO are all that remains.

Pork-Chop on August 17, 2012 at 9:37 AM

They can marginalize him even if his name is on the ballot. They can shut him up, limit his speaking to the minimum. Get him on prompter, tone his enthusiasm down. (put him back in chains? nahhh)

They can’t get around the VP debate though. Ever reader here knows, that is going to be epic- and regardless of the outcome in November, a clear contrast between a bright conservative future and a shriveled statist past.

Greek Fire on August 17, 2012 at 9:42 AM

What recent events made Obama go from a -4 to a +1 in three days in Rasmussen?

Barry 46 Romney 45

bayview on August 17, 2012 at 9:37 AM

This has been a trend for a while in Rassmusen daily tracking polls… Romney is up 4 or 5 days of the week and Obama is up one or two days of the weeks…

mnjg on August 17, 2012 at 9:42 AM

She probably saw this video and decided to distance herself. lol. Joe Biden – GAFFETASTIC! Can’t say I blame her.

bloggless on August 17, 2012 at 9:42 AM

Consider the possibility that Biden has become ill. That seems to me to be a possibility given his performance. What if Obama has to replace him? Who is there? John Kerry? Not Harry Reid. Not Nancy Pelosi. Diane Feinstein? Andrew Cuomo? The pickings are not that great. I’d guess John Kerry.

levi from queens on August 17, 2012 at 9:44 AM

So with Hillary safely away from vp, I can say with certitude that Bill will say (at the Convention): “For the good of the party and the good of the country, do not give this man four more years.”

nobar on August 17, 2012 at 9:26 AM

He won’t go that far, but he’ll probably take some less-than-subtle shots at The One.

Even Obama can see that Bill Clinton wants him to lose.
This is one time I hope Clinton gets what he wants.

AZCoyote on August 17, 2012 at 9:44 AM

So, Hillary is (possibly) out – but that doesn’t change the simple fact that obama is going to ELIMINATE Biden from the ticket.

Pork-Chop on August 17, 2012 at 9:37 AM

I’m guessing 50:50 odds on that. I’d bet 9:1 that Øbama would replace Uncle Plugs with Shrillary if she’d go along with it. But if she won’t, then 50:50 that Plugs will go.

I think Shrillary as VP would reinvigorate Øbama’s campaign. Someone else? Not so much. Probably not much at all, after a brief bounce. But it would at least stop the bleeding.

petefrt on August 17, 2012 at 9:45 AM

“On the other hand, if she was on the ticket and he won, and he continued his far left-wing socialistic policies, she’d have to defend those policies when she ran in 2016.”

True, and she would have four years wrangling with VJ and MO. Who would want to take that duo on? Of course, the three of them fighting might have put BO in a mental institution in which case she could step up to first place.

This administration is so tainted it looks like no one wants to be associated with it.

Cody1991 on August 17, 2012 at 9:45 AM

On to Plan B:

Mooch Obama, Vice President

Bishop on August 17, 2012 at 9:46 AM

This tells me the Clinton’s know this guy is toast

Conservative4ev on August 17, 2012 at 9:47 AM

Fact is that all this chaff thrown up in the TV/News etal screens is to change the subject.

Many Americans of every sort are coming to know that B. Obama and his puppet masters are evil no good commie thugs and a clear and present danger to all our freedom, liberty, and search for a good life here in America.

The Commie Democrat Party Does Not Want U.S. to Understand and Know That for Sure.

So, same old crap.. change the subject.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on August 17, 2012 at 9:47 AM

At this point, shouldn’t the Party be looking at a VP that can be set up for a presidential run in 2016? Neither Hillary nor Joe fit that bill – too old and too unpopular. I suspect it’s an Obama ego problem that keeps anyone (and I do mean anyone) who can potentially upstage him from getting anywhere near “his” office.

This is the same problem Clinton had. Clinton became the Party, and there was nobody else who could take his place. But at least Gore had a chance. Obama is the Party now. As anybody could outwit, outspeak and provide better ledership, none are being groomed to fill his shoes, I believe, for fear such a person would make him look as bad as he is.

shuzilla on August 17, 2012 at 9:47 AM

I just read that the utterly desperate Obama campaign sent Romney a request stating that if Romney releases his last 5 years of his tax returns then they will stop attacking him on his taxes. LOL… these fools are losing so badly and they are deluding themselves that the Romney tax returns issue is going to make them win the elections… Romney is hysterically laughing at their latest request….

mnjg on August 17, 2012 at 9:40 AM

Time to renew efforts to make Obama prove he didn’t enter college as a foreign exchange student.

Drained Brain on August 17, 2012 at 9:48 AM

American Crossroads PAC shows that Biden is the gift that keeps on giving.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfjn4BpmirU&feature=youtu.be

onlineanalyst on August 17, 2012 at 9:48 AM

John Huntsman to the rescue!

SouthernGent on August 17, 2012 at 9:48 AM

mnjg on August 17, 2012 at 9:42 AM

This is the first time in 10 days that Obama has had the lead. And there had been no misstep from Romney and it is after the Ryan selection, and Barry/Biden had not shined, WTH?

bayview on August 17, 2012 at 9:49 AM

What recent events made Obama go from a -4 to a +1 in three days in Rasmussen?

Barry 46 Romney 45

bayview on August 17, 2012 at 9:37 AM

Who knows? It used to be that Obama would do well on weekends where as Romney did much better on Thursdays and Fridays when the 3-day rolling average left out Saturday and Sunday. This week, the reverse appears to be happening.

I’d take solace in the fact that the swing state polls conducted this week by Rasmussen(as well as others) show Mitt slightly ahead and that he has Obama consistently polling between 43-46%. That means if the undecideds break for the challenger(which they usually do), Romney’s in good shape.

Doughboy on August 17, 2012 at 9:49 AM

Mooch Obama, Vice President

Bishop on August 17, 2012 at 9:46 AM

The dynamic duo. /ugh

nobar on August 17, 2012 at 9:49 AM

I’m no Palinista, but I’m gonna say it again: SP is crazy like a fox.

Obama’s going to have to eat three pies worth of crow if he puts Hillary on the ticket now…

Grace_is_sufficient on August 17, 2012 at 9:49 AM

Consider the possibility that Biden has become ill. That seems to me to be a possibility given his performance. What if Obama has to replace him? Who is there? John Kerry? Not Harry Reid. Not Nancy Pelosi. Diane Feinstein? Andrew Cuomo? The pickings are not that great. I’d guess John Kerry.

levi from queens on August 17, 2012 at 9:44 AM

You know who might need a safety net, and could benefit 0bama at the EV level?

U.S. Senator, Bill Nelson (D-FL)

It may look better than retirement to him.

Droopy on August 17, 2012 at 9:51 AM

Cynthia McKinney would probably accept. That’s who I recommend.

RBMN on August 17, 2012 at 9:52 AM

Two things to note, here.

1) Now we know what they think of Biden on the ticket. Not only is he a moron, but he his blue collar vote cred is being challenged by Ryan.

2) Hillary is not stupid. The cynicism in me says wait and see. This all may be truth. But, there is never real truth coming out of a Clinton campaign. Options are always open depending on the circumstance of the day. Whereas I think she would be a fool to hitch her wagon to such a loser, there are many reasons as to why she would. Feigning non-interest could turn to glowing martyr down the road when all hope seems to be lost.

We’ll know in the next week or so, for sure.

But, she would be smart to stay away from kryptonite.

so-notbuyingit on August 17, 2012 at 9:52 AM

sent Romney a request stating that if Romney releases his last 5 years of his tax returns then they will stop attacking him on his taxes. LOL…

mnjg on August 17, 2012 at 9:40 AM

Time to renew efforts to make Obama prove he didn’t enter college as a foreign exchange student.

Drained Brain on August 17, 2012 at 9:48 AM

Egggzackly.

petefrt on August 17, 2012 at 9:52 AM

He won’t go that far, but he’ll probably take some less-than-subtle shots at The One.

Even Obama can see that Bill Clinton wants him to lose.
This is one time I hope Clinton gets what he wants.

AZCoyote on August 17, 2012 at 9:44 AM

Yes, Bill is a much more skilled politican that that. Those are amateur Chicago tactics.

WisRich on August 17, 2012 at 9:52 AM

Why does everyone presume that Shrillary will be the ’16 dem front runner? Her time is passed. She is a loser and needs to go home to NY so she can anticipate grandchildren. Don’t hold your breath for the vp debate, either. VP 20th Century will probably develop a cold the day before.

Kissmygrits on August 17, 2012 at 9:39 AM

I agree about Hillary. She was the “clear front runner” for the Democratic nomination in 2008, and look how that worked out for her. She was out-manuvered by an inexperienced, junior, first-term senator and former (failed) community organizer.

The political talent and most of the smarts in the Clinton family belong to Bill, not Hillary. She only has a career in politics because of him. On her own, she’s not very inspiring, or very bright.

AZCoyote on August 17, 2012 at 9:54 AM

Who is the next most popular female Democrat?

forest on August 17, 2012 at 9:40 AM

Maxine Waters?

onlineanalyst on August 17, 2012 at 9:54 AM

Co-Vice Presidents: Hillary and Joe.

Bill Clinton is champing at the bit to turn the Lincoln Room of the White House into Party Room #1!

albill on August 17, 2012 at 9:54 AM

“She felt that if she were on the ticket with Obama and he lost, she would be tarred as a loser when she tried to run in 2016,”

This was my first thought. I think they know they’re going to lose.

The Rogue Tomato on August 17, 2012 at 9:55 AM

American Crossroads PAC shows that Biden is the gift that keeps on giving.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfjn4BpmirU&feature=youtu.be

onlineanalyst on August 17, 2012 at 9:48 AM

I just saw that. You know that’s gotta sting Biden. If he’s smart enough to realize they’re actually mocking him. That’s debatable.

Flora Duh on August 17, 2012 at 9:56 AM

I wouldn’t be surprised. Shrillary knows way deep down what a stupid little boy Obummie is and deeply resents him stealing the candidacy in 2008.

MelonCollie on August 17, 2012 at 9:56 AM

Hillary just burnished her image with many women who this cycle won’t vote for Obama. She’s savvy enough to remember Bill occupying the middle ground and working with Gingrich, effectively defusing rabid opposition and creating a budget surplus.

She wants that place in history as first woman POTUS, and knows how to get it. It won’t happen “shackling” herself to Obama’s legacy, that’s for sure.

MarkT on August 17, 2012 at 9:56 AM

At this point, shouldn’t the Party be looking at a VP that can be set up for a presidential run in 2016? Neither Hillary nor Joe fit that bill – too old and too unpopular. I suspect it’s an Obama ego problem that keeps anyone (and I do mean anyone) who can potentially upstage him from getting anywhere near “his” office.

shuzilla on August 17, 2012 at 9:47 AM

Who would they get? I’ve asked this a dozen times, but it bears repeating. Who is the future of the Democrat Party? Maybe they’ve got some up-and-comers at the local and state level, but at the national level, it’s a bunch of old, washed-up hacks. It doesn’t help matters that after their 2010 drubbing, they kept Pelosi and Reid in charge and elevated the members of the CBC to a more visible and vocal position.

Doughboy on August 17, 2012 at 9:56 AM

Obambi-Pelosi. Now that’s a ticket.

If the Democrats had any brains, they’d tell The Puppet President to take a hike, and hold an open convention. The attention alone would galvanize the party. But, probably fortunately, they have no brains.

MrLynn on August 17, 2012 at 9:57 AM

She felt that if she were on the ticket with Obama and he lost, she would be tarred as a loser when she tried to run in 2016

she said “tarred”…..she said….”tarred”….

is that like being “angry”?

/toure’

ted c on August 17, 2012 at 9:58 AM

Even if Hill was blackmailed or threatened ala Chicago thugtactics to accept, she’s gonna need an Extreme Makeover.

tru2tx on August 17, 2012 at 9:58 AM

mnjg on August 17, 2012 at 9:42 AM

This is the first time in 10 days that Obama has had the lead. And there had been no misstep from Romney and it is after the Ryan selection, and Barry/Biden had not shined, WTH?

bayview on August 17, 2012 at 9:49 AM

Relax its statistical noise, watch the trends, this is a marathon not a race and Obama is bleeding chips in a poker game

Conservative4ev on August 17, 2012 at 9:58 AM

Who is the Left’s Paul Ryan? Who is as articulate, factual, and influential?

shuzilla on August 17, 2012 at 9:59 AM

Also too good to check, Obama now +1…..in Rasmussen.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

Ryan dead cat bounce in full effect. So just to review, Rasmussen conducts and releases a bunch of polls done right when the Ryan pick is announced to capture the height of that excitement and can only get Romney at +1 in Florida. And by Friday the Tracking Poll has Obama in the lead for “the first time in 10 days.” Remember how I told folks the liberal blogosphere isn’t worried? Yeah, we’re not.

And to top it off, Ryan is a bold-faced liar. Jake Tapper, HA favorite reporter lowers the boom:
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/08/presented-with-letters-ryan-admits-requesting-stimulus-cash/

The ease and calm Ryan told this lie is downright socio-scary.

libfreeordie on August 17, 2012 at 9:59 AM

I don’t doubt this was at least discussed at some point. However, if there was going to be a change, 20 days out from the convention is too late. It would smack of desperation and I don’t see the candidate that would make a strategic difference unless they wanted to put somebody like Bsrney Frank, Keith Ellison, or one of the Sanchez girls on the ticket and really pander to a specific group.

Happy Nomad on August 17, 2012 at 9:59 AM

Doughboy on August 17, 2012 at 9:49 AM

But those numbers will be used to set up a meme by MSM that the selection of Ryan produced no bounce. They will also play up attack of Ryan’s office writing two advocacy letters to get stimulus funding for his constituents to blunt headwind generated by Ryan.

bayview on August 17, 2012 at 10:00 AM

Obama’s got to dance with the ugly girl that he brought to the dance. And by that I mean, Joe Biden.

it’s slow dance time fellas….pucker up and put some lipstick on that pig whydontcha…..

ted c on August 17, 2012 at 10:00 AM

Who is the next most popular female Democrat?

forest on August 17, 2012 at 9:40 AM

Princess “Weave no tall tails”

ToddPA on August 17, 2012 at 10:00 AM

I think the Democratic Convention is gonna be real interesting.

esr1951 on August 17, 2012 at 9:29 AM

It’s just going to be series of class warfare rants. I couldnt’ watch it.

michaelthomas on August 17, 2012 at 10:00 AM

This tells me the Clinton’s know this guy is toast

Conservative4ev on August 17, 2012 at 9:47 AM

That’s what I’m thinking.

No way Hillary would turn down VP if she thought this would be her last position. She’s be a history-maker, the first woman VP…and that might make putting up with Obama-Jarrett-Axlerod worth the headache.

But if she’s on the ticket and loses, she’s toast. Her last political move is a losing one.

The Clintons are too smart to go out on a loss.

Grace_is_sufficient on August 17, 2012 at 10:01 AM

she said “tarred”…..she said….”tarred”….

is that like being “angry”?

/toure’

ted c on August 17, 2012 at 9:58 AM

The proper Toure’ Syndrome reaction…

It’s a racist reference to Uncle Remus and the Tar Baby – that’s what it is!

Drained Brain on August 17, 2012 at 10:01 AM

Is the theme music at the DNC Convention going to be “Unchained Melody” by the Righteous Brothers??????

/iTunes $0.99

ted c on August 17, 2012 at 10:01 AM

Whatever happened to Mark Warner that all the lefties were creaming their mom jeans about a few years back? Never hear a peep about him anymore.

tdpwells on August 17, 2012 at 10:01 AM

bayview on August 17, 2012 at 10:00 AM

libfreeordie on August 17, 2012 at 9:59 AM

And LiveFreeOffOthersOrDie shows up like herpes as expected.

bayview on August 17, 2012 at 10:01 AM

Obama won’t for a few reasons:

1) It wouldn’t soothe is raging narcissism. Admitting Biden — who Obama himself chose for VP — was a mistake doesn’t fit in with Obama’s egomania. He can’t really blame anyone else for the choice of VP, and to admit Biden is a disaster would, by extension, mean Obama had to admit he is a disaster.

2) Giving the #2 slot to Hillary Clinton means Obama loses his power. Whether through herself or Bill, putting Hillary on the ticket means Obama surrenders the WH to the Clintons by default. There is no way Bill or Hillary Clinton who, for all their faults are extremely politically savvy, would sit by and allow their reputations to be sullied by Obama’s socialist policies, disastrous economy, etc. They would run the WH; Obama would simply be the front man.

3) Any change in the ticket now would signal a campaign in panic and disarray. If there was a time to replace Joe Biden at the VP spot, it would have been before Romney named Paul Ryan as his running mate. To pull Biden from the ticket now signals that Obama doesn’t have the faith in Biden to beat Ryan at the debates (he doesn’t, but let’s let Obama have that dream), and that Ryan is probably a candidate to be taken seriously.

Which, of course, leaves the Obama campaign in the position of having to keep Joe Biden on the ticket and work through all of Biden’s foot-in-mouth gaffes, inappropriate comments, etc.

And I’m okay with that.

englishqueen01 on August 17, 2012 at 10:01 AM

Who is the Left’s Paul Ryan? Who is as articulate, factual, and influential?

shuzilla on August 17, 2012 at 9:59 AM

Does it have to be all three?

Seriously, what is really fun about the elections right now is that the Romney/Ryan ticket is coming off as cool and appealing to the younger voters while Obama/Biden comes off as uncool. Bet that is the first time Obama has faced that dynamic.

Happy Nomad on August 17, 2012 at 10:02 AM

Doughboy on August 17, 2012 at 9:56 AM

Cuomo?

petefrt on August 17, 2012 at 10:02 AM

ROFL

How desperate is Barky that he has to beg the woman he vilified in 2008 to come and save him from himself.

Sweet justice, you slack-jawed loser.

Bishop on August 17, 2012 at 9:32 AM

This. SO MUCH THIS.

Hillary <3

lansing quaker on August 17, 2012 at 10:03 AM

Update: I’m skeptical about whether this took place, and whether Obama can even make a switch at all at this point. But I don’t think Hillary would be the best choice anyway. He’d be better off trying to convince Evan Bayh or even Michael Bloomberg to sign on. I’m not sure either man would want the job, but Bayh isn’t doing anything else at the moment. And Bayh would have been a better choice in 2008, too.

I agree Ed. Hilary has her own baggage, which I doubt Obama wants to have exploited against him.

Obama’s main problem is that he is a hardcore liberal that has shown no inclination to move to the center. Hilary does not help him with blue collar voters as much as people think. So, instead of Hilary, the best choice was always a moderate like Evan Bayh. But again, as with Clinton, there is no way that Bayh would have said yes because that would have tied him to Obama and probably hurt his chance in 2016.

To me, the position is fairly toxic because Obama is fairly toxic. Even if he wins, it wont be by much, and it wont be because of his policies. And those policies will only get more toxic over the next 4 years as Obamacare goes into effect, as the economy keeps tanking, as he raises taxes, and as he does more stupid things.

I will say this though, I do think Hilary was asked. I just think she instantly said no. She took Sec. of State to appease the Democrats and to make sure there are no hard feelings if she runs in 2016, and to enhance her foreign policy credentials. However, she has kept herself immune to Obama’s policies for the most part, and there is no way that she was going to immerse herself in Obamacare and the rest of the garbage associated with Obama.

milcus on August 17, 2012 at 10:03 AM

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