Virginia back in the black for the third year running

posted at 3:36 pm on August 16, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

Ah, Virginia — drink it in, it always goes down smooth. I’m never one to miss out on an opportunity to tout the virtues of my home state, especially while somewhat less-than-humble, wildly profligate states like California are busily telling everyone that they’re the ones ‘leading the country’ and ‘winning the future’ with green-energy standards and ‘anti-Arizona‘ immigration bills and whatever else it is they’re always going on about. Yeah, okay California — you just keep doing that. Meanwhile, fiscally sane states like Virginia are going to engender policies that attract businesses, tap into their state’s energy resources, find ways to efficiently streamline government, and foster an unemployment rate well below the national average.

‘Cause that’s exactly what Virginia’s been doing — while plenty of other states are bleeding red ink like there’s no tomorrow, Virginia is once again bringing in a budget surplus for the third year in a row. It can be done, people! I’m really pleased that Mitt Romney ended up going with Paul Ryan as his running mate, as I think we needed the energy he brought with him to the ticket, but that doesn’t mean that Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell couldn’t have been an exceptionally competent (albeit admittedly ‘vanilla’) choice. McDonnell has engineered fiscally responsible governance and a better-than-average state economy, meaning government spending has come in under-budget and tax revenues have come in over-budget. Bazinga:

Virginia finished its fiscal year June 30 with a $448.5 million surplus through a combination of higher-than-projected revenues and agency cost-cutting, putting the state far enough into the black to give a 3 percent bonus to state workers who have not had a pay raise in five years.

“Simply put: Over the past three years, we have brought in more revenue than forecasted, and spent less than budgeted,” said Gov. Robert F. McDonnell (R) said Wednesday. “That is responsible fiscal management. It is the Virginia way.” …

Virginia’s results put it ahead of many states. Revenue grew 5.4 percent in fiscal 2012 without the benefit of any tax increase, compared with an average of 2.9 percent nationally, said Arturo Perez, a fiscal analyst with the National Conference of State Legislatures in Denver.

Of course, state Democrats are saying this is all due to ‘external conditions,’ like the relatively large bit of Virginia’s economy kept moving right along by the federal defense spending that comes through the state, but they can’t honestly try and pretend as if conservative fiscal policies have had absolutely nothing to do with this. If only the federal government would take a leaf out of the Old Dominion’s book, eh?


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Of course, state Democrats are saying this is all due to ‘external conditions,’ like the relatively large bit of Virginia’s economy kept moving right along by the federal defense spending that comes through the state

This is true. OTOH, Maryland does too and is a basket case.

The Count on August 16, 2012 at 3:40 PM

Stunning news

/s

The economy was booming when I was there in the late 80s. Gee, wonder what went wrong?

Ugly on August 16, 2012 at 3:40 PM

Bush – 1,300 convictions;

Clinton – 1,000 convictions;

Obama – Zero attempts.

We have had 16 years of Federal prosecutions of investment malfeasance in two different administrations and two different political parties numbering in thousands of cases. Now, we have four years of no prosecutions whatsoever.

This is very low hanging fruit for Romney and Ryan. They need to pick it.

VorDaj on August 16, 2012 at 3:41 PM

So Virginia has a Republican Governor. What about the state legislature – who controls it? I’d like to know whether there’s any chance the Dems might try to claim some of the credit.

dentarthurdent on August 16, 2012 at 3:41 PM

Have we ever had more competent Republican Governors in office at the same time?

GOPRanknFile on August 16, 2012 at 3:43 PM

I’m really pleased that Mitt Romney ended up going with Paul Ryan as his running mate, as I think we needed the energy he brought with him to the ticket, but that doesn’t mean that Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell couldn’t have been an exceptionally competent (albeit admittedly ‘vanilla’) choice.

This was one of the reasons I supported McDonnell as VP, though the Ryan pick seems to be working out pretty well. I think picking McDonnell would have also guaranteed Virginia would go to Romney too.

Doomberg on August 16, 2012 at 3:43 PM

Why by golly it is almost like you know passing those old fashioned budgets and stuff, leads to fiscal stability…

A lot easier with a republican in charge too….

Hey Barry, Harry you listening?

harlekwin15 on August 16, 2012 at 3:43 PM

Wanna bet all the states with Democrat governors are in the red, and getting deeper and deeper in the red…while those with Conservative governors have balanced the books and are showing a surplus, or are advancing fast toward that end?

If Obama and Timmy Geithner still believe that one can spend one’s way out of debt (Nevermind…one cannot figure out Turbo Tax and the other can’t understand why nobody does annual profit and earning ratios reports)…and the Dems find no problem with this, governors and electorate alike, then is it any mystery as to why progressive and bankrupt go together sooo well?

coldwarrior on August 16, 2012 at 3:44 PM

This is also very low hanging fruit for Hotair. They need to pick it.

VorDaj on August 16, 2012 at 3:44 PM

and spent less than budgeted

Take a hint Senator Reid

Jabberwock on August 16, 2012 at 3:44 PM

Virginia finished its fiscal year June 30 with a $448.5 million surplus through a combination of higher-than-projected revenues and agency cost-cutting, putting the state far enough into the black to give a 3 percent bonus to state workers who have not had a pay raise in five years.

Ok, it’s nice they gave the state workers their first raise in 5 years. But how about cutting the tax rates back if you’re collecting more than you need? You know, put money back in the taxpayer’s hands.

Bitter Clinger on August 16, 2012 at 3:44 PM

This is very low hanging fruit for Romney and Ryan. They need to pick it.

VorDaj on August 16, 2012 at 3:41 PM

Picking that particular fruit up may lose the Wall Street dollars. Mitt may still win without them but they buy a lot of coattail down the ticket.

Archivarix on August 16, 2012 at 3:45 PM

This is true. OTOH, Maryland does too and is a basket case.

The Count on August 16, 2012 at 3:40 PM

Virginia gains tax revenue by widening the tax base & creating a favorable environment for businesses.

Maryland tries to gain revenue by building casinos and raising taxes in its residents. The ones who would potentially pay the most tax are leaving, and the casinos will in effect be a regressive tax, on those who can least pay it.

22044 on August 16, 2012 at 3:45 PM

Bush – 1,300 convictions;

Clinton – 1,000 convictions;

Obama – Zero attempts.

We have had 16 years of Federal prosecutions of investment malfeasance in two different administrations and two different political parties numbering in thousands of cases. Now, we have four years of no prosecutions whatsoever.

This is very low hanging fruit for Romney and Ryan. They need to pick it.

VorDaj on August 16, 2012 at 3:41 PM

+1000

SteveInRTP on August 16, 2012 at 3:45 PM

Ok – looked it up.
So the Rs totally control Virginia. Funny – how could those eeeevillll Republicans actually get results like this with their conservative policies? Must be very perplexing to Dems…..

dentarthurdent on August 16, 2012 at 3:46 PM

Archivarix – yeah, Jon Corzine = Willie Horton if the GOP were prepared to go for it, but there may well be a cost.

JEM on August 16, 2012 at 3:48 PM

How ya doin’ North Carolina!

- Stupid Joe

OhEssYouCowboys on August 16, 2012 at 3:48 PM

but they can’t honestly try and pretend as if conservative fiscal policies have had absolutely nothing to do with this

Since when have they been honest, intellectually or otherwise. They will find strawmen and the extremely rare exceptions to parade in on the compliant left wing media that the policies are hurting people and are oh-so evil. You could have .01% unemployment and they’d trot out some lazy mother of four that was “left behind” by the policies of the governor and try to paint her as the norm.

PastorJon on August 16, 2012 at 3:49 PM

Hmmm, conservative policies lead to growth? Whodda thunk it?

Hill60 on August 16, 2012 at 3:49 PM

So Virginia has a Republican Governor. What about the state legislature – who controls it? I’d like to know whether there’s any chance the Dems might try to claim some of the credit.

dentarthurdent on August 16, 2012 at 3:41 PM

Republicans, by about 2:1 (67 R:32 D).

That’s why Barry won’t follow Virginia’s example. It would require him to admit that everything he thinks he knows is wrong.

AZCoyote on August 16, 2012 at 3:50 PM

What about the state legislature – who controls it?

dentarthurdent on August 16, 2012 at 3:41 PM

Both are Republican although Senate is tied with tie breaker going to the Republicans.

tims472 on August 16, 2012 at 3:51 PM

Here is a handy little chart, per state, on taxes you will pay if the Bush tax rates expire! And the dc bunch is doing zero on this issue!

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/if-the-bush-tax-cuts-expire-how-much-more-would-you-have-to-pay/
L

letget on August 16, 2012 at 3:53 PM

Ok – looked it up.
So the Rs totally control Virginia. Funny – how could those eeeevillll Republicans actually get results like this with their conservative policies? Must be very perplexing to Dems…..

dentarthurdent on August 16, 2012 at 3:46 PM

Dems cannot explain it. Take a look at Maryland. Same general enviroment, but TOTAL Democrat control. Very different outcome.
Conservatives should play up this comparison for all its worth.

Jabberwock on August 16, 2012 at 3:53 PM

Degenerate Liar in Chief

Schadenfreude on August 16, 2012 at 3:53 PM

My home state. McDonnell is doing a great job.

darwin on August 16, 2012 at 3:55 PM

OT: did anyone else notice a small smile at the bottom of every page?

nobar on August 16, 2012 at 3:55 PM

Virginia’s one of the few states with a political culture that emphasizes good fiscal practices. Even the Dems feel an obligation to at least pretend to be fiscally responsible.

BTW, McDonnell is one heck of a communicator. It’s very easy to see him heading a national GOP ticket some day.

Robert_Paulson on August 16, 2012 at 3:56 PM

Picking that particular fruit up may lose the Wall Street dollars. Mitt may still win without them but they buy a lot of coattail down the ticket.

Archivarix on August 16, 2012 at 3:45 PM

Bush had 1,300 convictions.

VorDaj on August 16, 2012 at 3:56 PM

I wonder what a comparison between R and D controlled States would look like.

I think Indiana also had a surplus.

Is Center On Budget And Policy Priorities liberal? It looks like it, but I can’t tell. Anyway, they show Virginia having a budget deficit next year.

They show 31 States having deficits next year, including Virginia, which they say had a budget deficit last year, this year, and next year.

jaime on August 16, 2012 at 3:56 PM

That’s why Barry won’t follow Virginia’s example. It would require him to admit that everything he thinks he knows is wrong.

AZCoyote on August 16, 2012 at 3:50 PM

Well clearly what they say about Virginia can’t possibly be right…//
Obummer keeps telling us you have to spend your way into debt to get out of debt and grow by taxing the people more.

dentarthurdent on August 16, 2012 at 3:56 PM

Jabberwock on August 16, 2012 at 3:53 PM

DEFINITELY!!

dentarthurdent on August 16, 2012 at 3:58 PM

OT: did anyone else notice a small smile at the bottom of every page?

nobar on August 16, 2012 at 3:55 PM

Yes.

As far as Virginia’s economy, the press will get that story turned in the proper direction. They’ve had a meme for decades that Donks are better at the economy. It’ll be a tough one to give up.

hawkdriver on August 16, 2012 at 3:58 PM

I’m never one to miss out on an opportunity to tout the virtues of my home state, especially while somewhat less-than-humble, wildly profligate states like California are busily telling everyone that they’re the ones ‘leading the country’ and ‘winning the future’ with green-energy standards and ‘anti-Arizona‘ immigration bills and whatever else it is they’re always going on about. Yeah, okay California — you just keep doing that. Meanwhile, fiscally sane states like Virginia are going to engender policies that attract businesses, tap into their state’s energy resources, find ways to efficiently streamline government, and foster an unemployment rate well below the national average.

By the time 3/4 of Californians wake up every day, the rest of the country has broken a sweat and it has little to do with time differences.

AubieJon on August 16, 2012 at 3:58 PM

+1000

SteveInRTP on August 16, 2012 at 3:45 PM

Gentlemen….

Mitt is saving that for if he NEEDS it, and when he attacks Democrat Rentseeking finance houses….

HE CAN USE IT FOR THE MIDTERMS

harlekwin15 on August 16, 2012 at 3:59 PM

Archivarix – yeah, Jon Corzine = Willie Horton if the GOP were prepared to go for it, but there may well be a cost.

JEM on August 16, 2012 at 3:48 PM

What cost? MF effectively embezzled a billion dollars of investors money, money that was supposed to be sequestered from the firm’s money. It was theft, no less than Bernie Madoff’s theft, except that MF gambled it away instead of running a ponzi scheme.

How would going after a thief have a cost? Losing the embezzler’s vote?

iurockhead on August 16, 2012 at 4:01 PM

HE CAN USE IT FOR THE MIDTERMS

harlekwin15 on August 16, 2012 at 3:59 PM

If Emperor Obama wins there may be no midterms.

VorDaj on August 16, 2012 at 4:02 PM

I guess it’s fair to say Obama didn’t build Virginia’s $448 million surplus. Someone else did it in spite of him.

Liam on August 16, 2012 at 4:02 PM

Mhhhhhhh

Schadenfreude on August 16, 2012 at 4:05 PM

This is very low hanging fruit for Romney and Ryan. They need to pick it.

VorDaj on August 16, 2012 at 3:41 PM

Check Peter Schweitzer’s column at The Daily Beast from last week. The Gov’t Accountability Institute study shows Obama’s administration is packed with lawyers who have spent years defending the Wall Street firms you’re talking about.

AubieJon on August 16, 2012 at 4:06 PM

I like what the State of Oklahoma did by passing a law that was English only. Guess what, if you can’t read the road signs why would we give you a drivers license.

mixplix on August 16, 2012 at 4:07 PM

If Emperor Obama wins there may be no midterms.

VorDaj on August 16, 2012 at 4:02 PM

That’s why I said save it for if you need it….

Mitt has no need to hit Barack hard, the more ridiculous Barack goes against Mitt the closer Barack moves to that wonderful event horizon where someone LOOKS FOR THEMSELVES with the gentlest prodding at who Barack is and how many non scandal reported scandals there are….

we are 80ish days out team and Barry has been wailing on Mitt and not hurting him….

Mitt does not even have access to his big guns yet….

trust me Obama is boxed in it is simply a matter of how boxed in he is on how far he falls based on how much his mental inertia due to the need for increased risk valuation slows him down.

It was beautiful when I saw Mitt’s gambit…

You get that Barack’s reflexive Mediscare Blitz in Florida HELPED set the stage for Romney’s case yes?

Mitt Romney spent Barack Obama’s warchest that day.

ahahaha

BOOM!

harlekwin15 on August 16, 2012 at 4:08 PM

Obviously these increased tax revenues have nothing to do with the growth of the federal government.

NickelAndDime on August 16, 2012 at 4:10 PM

Obviously these increased tax revenues have nothing to do with the growth of the federal government.

NickelAndDime on August 16, 2012 at 4:10 PM

Sure they do, what of it?

I can be happy that staying within a budget using that found money was shown to work…

Barack’s problem is he cannot put Washington DC in every state…

ie his method does not meet the realities of MATH!

harlekwin15 on August 16, 2012 at 4:12 PM

That’s why Barry won’t follow Virginia’s example. It would require him to admit that everything he thinks he knows is wrong.

AZCoyote on August 16, 2012 at 3:50 PM

Not only Pantload…

… But the entire Left, Academia, and Democrats in whole as well.

And we can’t have THAT now, can we…?

Seven Percent Solution on August 16, 2012 at 4:13 PM

spent less than budgeted

Words not spoken in DC.

tommer74 on August 16, 2012 at 4:14 PM

Revenue grew 5.4 percent in fiscal 2012 without the benefit of any tax increase,

We already know from Obama and Biden that is a racist lie. NOTHING can get better without raising taxes on the rich.

LASue on August 16, 2012 at 4:15 PM

I voted in VA for McDonnell. He cleaned house in his election and has been doing a bang up job. I actually helped work the phones for his campaign and am damn glad to have done it.

ted c on August 16, 2012 at 4:15 PM

Corrupt Obama is absolutely refusing to allow Corzine to be prosecuted. Obama says he is the defender of Medicare but steals over 700 billion from it and says he is for the people against the greedy wall street yet doesn’t prosecute a single one of them versus Clinton and Bush both going after thousands of them.

Obama is the most two-faced man to ever walk the planet.

VorDaj on August 16, 2012 at 4:17 PM

Ok, it’s nice they gave the state workers their first raise in 5 years. But how about cutting the tax rates back if you’re collecting more than you need? You know, put money back in the taxpayer’s hands.

Bitter Clinger on August 16, 2012 at 3:44 PM

I was thinking the same thing.

Why is it that “excess revenue” almost always goes to the state anyway? How ’bout pushing it back to the ones who generated it?

Government shouldn’t be running ‘surpluses’.

If they are, they’re taking too much money from the taxpayers.

catmman on August 16, 2012 at 4:19 PM

jaime on August 16, 2012 at 3:56 PM

I think you have a bogus article there. Texas closed a media reported $27 billion bi-annual deficit they created in their minds by projecting the previous 2 year spending and increasing it by the growth in population and inflation.

Our legislature cut spending and we have been enjoying higher than anticipated income from the gas and oil boom that has been coming on. Now our liberals are screaming for us to spend the rainy day fund. As usual.

DanMan on August 16, 2012 at 4:21 PM

I think you have a bogus article there.

DanMan on August 16, 2012 at 4:21 PM

Yeah, I thought it looked like it might be liberal propaganda.

jaime on August 16, 2012 at 4:27 PM

VA has also straightened out some weirdnesses that used to exist between open carry and ccw, and an archaic one handgun/day purchase restriction which made no sense at all. Also promises to get rid of the alcoholic beverage control stores and turn that over to private concerns. Getting to a gold star state is a bit off yet, but progress is being made.

Now if the State can get the off-shore drilling ban lifted… an EPA/Interior problem from the feds… and uranium mining… an EPA/Interior problem from the feds… and get the housing bubble popped… courtesy of the feds and bloated federal government… things might finally get going. Still a lot to be done, but the blockages are out of the way at the State level. Which points to where the real problems are now.

ajacksonian on August 16, 2012 at 4:27 PM

I miss my home Commonwealth. Living just north in the People’s State of Maryland is a tease.

catmman on August 16, 2012 at 4:19 PM

Generally, a surplus means the economy and incomes grew beyond expectations, resulting in more tax revenue. Though I agree that when they go back to their budget (you know, that thing Congress hasn’t passed in 1200+ days), they should decrease taxation in response. However, this would result in increased economic growth, and another surplus.

I mean, I’m a layman as it comes to economic theory, but I know supply-side economics well enough to know that that’s pretty much how it goes.

Sgt Steve on August 16, 2012 at 4:27 PM

This is also very low hanging fruit for Hotair. They need to pick it.

VorDaj on August 16, 2012 at 3:44 PM

Don’t expect too much intrepid blogging — if anything original at all, really.

HotGas went and got all soft and squishy awhile back. They only rephrase, requote, and basically just parrot other people’s work now. Unless that’s what you’re talking about — parroting ad nauseam. Well — except for when Jazz Shaw gets all expenses paid trips to Canada and the Canadian oil shale fields provided by the oil industry, of course.

Too bad, eh? You should have seen this place when Michelle Malkin started it up and owned it. They’d actually go to scenes, events, and protests and whatnot — then write it up. It was actual production back then. Tons of original investigative blogging, videos, celebrity guest bloggers, etc… those were the days.

FlatFoot on August 16, 2012 at 4:30 PM

Ok – looked it up.
So the Rs totally control Virginia. Funny – how could those eeeevillll Republicans actually get results like this with their conservative policies? Must be very perplexing to Dems…..

dentarthurdent on August 16, 2012 at 3:46 PM

Google “Virginia starvation deaths 2010-2012″

Shocker.

BobMbx on August 16, 2012 at 4:32 PM

So Virginia has a Republican Governor. What about the state legislature – who controls it? I’d like to know whether there’s any chance the Dems might try to claim some of the credit.

dentarthurdent on August 16, 2012 at 3:41 PM

Of course they will. Same story with Ohio.

tdpwells on August 16, 2012 at 4:45 PM

Simply put: Over the past three years, we have brought in more revenue than forecasted, and spent less than budgeted

But that’s umpossible. It’s nonbelieveable!

29Victor on August 16, 2012 at 4:49 PM

while somewhat less-than-humble, wildly profligate states like California are busily telling everyone that they’re the ones ‘leading the country’ and ‘winning the future’

The rest of the country is looking at them and also saying “WTF?

UltimateBob on August 16, 2012 at 4:54 PM

Tons of original investigative blogging, videos, celebrity guest bloggers, etc… those were the days.

FlatFoot on August 16, 2012 at 4:30 PM

I remember that. Quest bloggers like Robert Spencer and Diana West, who weren’t invited back, maybe for insulting islam or something.

VorDaj on August 16, 2012 at 4:55 PM

Must be taxes on all those sales of assault weapons and handguns with huge clips!

- Dems

Marcola on August 16, 2012 at 5:15 PM

I remember that. Quest bloggers like Robert Spencer and Diana West, who weren’t invited back, maybe for insulting islam or something.

VorDaj on August 16, 2012 at 4:55 PM

Wrong — and — um — wrong again.

That’s okay though, you can be soft and squishy too. It’s your right.

FlatFoot on August 16, 2012 at 5:25 PM

Google “Virginia starvation deaths 2010-2012″

Shocker.

BobMbx on August 16, 2012 at 4:32 PM

So Virginia is the new Ethiopia because of Republicans?

dentarthurdent on August 16, 2012 at 5:35 PM

Of course, state Democrats are saying this is all due to ‘external conditions,’ like the relatively large bit of Virginia’s economy kept moving right along by the federal defense spending that comes through the state, but they can’t honestly try and pretend as if conservative fiscal policies have had absolutely nothing to do with this. If only the federal government would take a leaf out of the Old Dominion’s book, eh?

I would have to agree with the Dems on the D.C. part, but the part about fiscal conservatism definitely is part of it.

And it’s not all just because of the government workers in D.C. (and military bases like Norfolk), but also the myriad of businesses and government contractors drawn to Northern Virginia.

Face it, no citizen or businessman wants to see their local military or major government installation close whether they’re conservative or not.

At any rate, I never thought of Virginia as ever having been a poor state.

Dr. ZhivBlago on August 16, 2012 at 5:40 PM

But this could be actually bad news, because VA may just vote for Obama.

Mad Kimchi on August 16, 2012 at 5:53 PM

Hey Erika! Trade you Moonbeam Brown for McDonnell. We’ll even through in the “vision” of a Bullet Train for free!

GarandFan on August 16, 2012 at 6:17 PM

I live in Northern Virginia just outside the beltway and everyone up here not only works for the government but makes the money for all the state. As much as I hate to say it, the larger the govt grows, the better Virginia does. Our Governor is great but with the big move of the military from MD to here in Fairfax County, the housing fall isn’t near what it could have been and the influx of home buyers from MD has kept new homes being built and bought. I wouldn’t necessarily consider VA (it’s a love/hate relationship) any kind of indicator for anything except big govt. Basically, the better Northern Virginia does, the bigger govt is. As far as spending, well, we have Jim Moran up here and we know that all the states are paying for the pork he brings in to “keep spending low”. I am a big fan of McDonnell but playing a bit of devil’s advocate, I would caution using VA as a beacon. (wah wah wah, I know, Debbie Downer sounds fits here).

hayekite on August 16, 2012 at 6:49 PM

Democrats are saying this is all due to ‘external conditions,’ like the relatively large bit of Virginia’s economy kept moving right along by the federal defense spending that comes through the state

Hogwash. Gov. McDonnell and his team have made a lot of cuts and reduced spending and worked together to pull this off. They also pursued businesses since day one and they’ve brought plenty of jobs to the state. And not just DC, either. All it takes is a good team with a mission and some hard work, and that’s how they’ve been successful. You can’t just sit around talking about needing more jobs, (like a certain CIC for example)…you have to be aggressive and pursue them and sweeten the deal for them to choose your state, and that’s what they’ve done. Congrats, VA!

scalleywag on August 16, 2012 at 7:09 PM

Ah, Virginia — drink it in, it always goes down smooth.

I was not born in VA however, as they say in Texas, I got here as fast as I could. :)

There is no question that being close to DC help VA when it comes to government contractors coming to the state. However those companies could just as easily move re-locate to MD and for some odd reason companies never do.

“I always thought Northern Virginia would win — not only are they a lower-cost location in a state that is generally more friendly to business — the congressional delegation is also much more pro-military,” Richard P. Clinch, director of economic research at the University of Baltimore’s Jacob France Institute, said in an e-mail.

Virginia’s pro-business and military-friendly reputation was a major factor when General Dynamics chose the state over Maryland a decade ago, Clinch said.

Also Virginia is consistently in the top 5 of states that are the most business friendly which also allows us to compete against states such as Texas (consistently the #1 state) across all business types not just Defense and Federal Government workers.

That is not because of the location of DC but because of the fairly sound politics down in Richmond even among the Democrat elected leaders (Not counting the Democrats from NOVA).

F15Mech on August 16, 2012 at 7:15 PM

But this could be actually bad news, because VA may just vote for Obama.

Mad Kimchi on August 16, 2012 at 5:53 PM

Don’t worry about that, and don’t believe the polls either, they over emphasis NOVA and Richmond and way under poll the rest of the rest of the state. Obama is the exact reason that we have a state completely controlled by the R’s – prior to 2009, R’s only held the House of Delegates. Also, two of those budget years were with a Dem controlled Senate, and dealing with the crap sandwich budget left behind by Tim Kaine.

Govgirl on August 16, 2012 at 7:45 PM

Some are saying that Ohio and Virginia being in better shape will push them towards Obama. I can’t speak for Ohio but just because D.C. is keeping the economy rocking, there is a lot economy suffering in the lower part of the state.

Cindy Munford on August 16, 2012 at 7:59 PM

But this could be actually bad news, because VA may just vote for Obama.

Mad Kimchi on August 16, 2012 at 5:53 PM

That is my concern.

With people fleeing MD and over 1/3rd of them landing in Virginia like locusts I do worry that we will not be able to turn VA.

So far from what I have seen in NOVA is that nobody in NOVA is really making their stand known via bumper stickers or yard signs. I have not seen one yard sign for either candidate.

However when I park at a public parking garage in DC and look at the cars with VA plates, of the % that actually have a bumper a candidate sticker 95% is old 2008 Obama and so far very few 2012 Obama.

F15Mech on August 16, 2012 at 8:04 PM

So far from what I have seen in NOVA is that nobody in NOVA is really making their stand known via bumper stickers or yard signs. I have not seen one yard sign for either candidate.

I want a sign for my yard and two stickers for our cars. Am going to see Ryan at West Springfield High School tomorrow. 4 years ago at the McCain rally in Springfield is where I got my McCain/Palin ones. I was assuming they always sell them at the rallies?

hayekite on August 16, 2012 at 9:37 PM

hayekite on August 16, 2012 at 9:37 PM

No sign (soup) for you!!!!!!!

F15Mech on August 16, 2012 at 9:54 PM

No sign (soup) for you!!!!!!!

But I need signs. Look at my neighbors lawn from the last luau fundraiser they had with Jim Moran and Tim Kaine.

https://www.facebook.com/LeeDistrictDems

I at least need something to combat that!

hayekite on August 16, 2012 at 10:14 PM

Super Stars

One of his aides wondered why I immediately cut a five figure check for one of his projects. Well, I have watched him.

The current governor of Virginia is the most underrated leader in the nation.

He has an ability for sensible solutions which also consider the best traditions of the American experiment.

If he learns to present like the orator from Illinois who is presently in the White House, we can have a super star with common sense who is not selling the idiocy from the faculty lounge.

IlikedAUH2O on August 17, 2012 at 9:53 AM