In which Democrats lament the existence of election fraud

posted at 9:22 pm on August 16, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

Seeing as how highly prominent Democrats have made it their particular business to persecute proponents of voter ID laws as malicious, racist, and downright stupid — most notably, of course, the Obama Justice Department — they seem strangely less skeptical when they’re not the ones benefiting from election fraud. Earlier this year, former Republican Congressman from Michigan Thaddeus McCotter resigned from Congress, citing a “nightmarish” experience and concern for his family, but earlier this month, four of his former staffers were indicted for forging the signatures on petitions to place him on the ballot. The Detroit Free Press now reports that this was apparently a regular thing over the years:

The staff of former U.S. Rep. Thaddeus McCotter evidently had some practice dummying up petitions in order to get their boss on the ballot.

A review of the nominating petitions turned in for McCotter’s elections from 2002 through 2012 shows he did not have enough signatures to qualify to run in at least the 2008, 2010 and 2012 elections. The skullduggery wasn’t detected until this year, when a part-time staffer for the Secretary of State found that of the more than 1,800 signatures turned in by the McCotter campaign for 2012, only 244 were valid. …

The 2002 and 2004 petitions were relatively clean with few duplicates, but in 2008, at least 67 of the 177 petition pages submitted were either copies or had been doctored by cutting and pasting dates from other documents onto the petitions. …

“It’s a real punch in the gut, and I hope that voters out there are really watching and listening,” said Natalie Mosher, a Canton Democrat who lost to McCotter in 2010. “I’m angry, because I think the voters of the district got taken for a ride by this guy.”

Yes, there is definite reason for outrage here, but as John Fund points out for National Review:

Would that Democrats summoned as much outrage over the long history of voter fraud that has surrounded Michigan elections. In 2005, Detroit city clerk Jackie Currie was removed from office after Detroit mayor Kwame Kirkpatrick won a disputed second term partly on the basis of illegal absentee ballots cast in the names of dead people. Currie’s employees were accused of illegally assisting incapacitated people to vote by absentee ballot. Kirkpatrick himself was later forced to resign after being convicted on corruption charges.

This latest debacle is just another reminder that election fraud is a real thing that can take many forms, and that politicians & friends on both sides of the aisle are capable of taking advantage of lax rules. And no, the issue of McCotter’s former staff specifically probably isn’t something that would have been solved by voter ID laws, but it once again demonstrates the very real possibilities for corruption and deception in our political arena and the need to clamp down on available avenues and opportunities to commit such acts — if it’s possible in this capacity, it’s not such a stretch that is could be possible in others. This doesn’t have to be such a sticking point for partisanship and demagoguery.


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Election fraud= lazy, complacent republicans
Election fraud= democrats just looking out for the little people

bettycooper on August 16, 2012 at 9:27 PM

Vote Twice…
Vote Often…

Electrongod on August 16, 2012 at 9:28 PM

First! Bishop! goldarnit…

bettycooper on August 16, 2012 at 9:29 PM

Wonder what form ACORN will take in this election?

Oh, OT, but great. The Won sends Biden home.

BacaDog on August 16, 2012 at 9:30 PM

First! Bishop! goldarnit…

bettycooper on August 16, 2012 at 9:29 PM

:)

Electrongod on August 16, 2012 at 9:31 PM

Showing ID is not controvertial. I just don’t get their objections. Obviously they’re just upset that all the dead people won’t be able to vote.

gina4 on August 16, 2012 at 9:35 PM

“Vote early vote often” is not a joke in Chicago. Adlai Stevenson (D) the III stopped a recount he demanded when running against Jim Thompson (R) after finding 350,000 fraudulent ballots cast for democratic candidates the recount was threatening the victory of down ballot democrats.

KW64 on August 16, 2012 at 9:35 PM

It was also Michigan where a County Dem official (Oakland I think) had to resign in disgrace after he got caught trying to field a “Tea Party” candidate for no reason than to try and split the vote in a strong GOP area. Is that any more honorable a type of fraud?

Happy Nomad on August 16, 2012 at 9:36 PM

This doesn’t have to be such a sticking point for partisanship and demagoguery.

When democrats are involved, what doesn’t?

trigon on August 16, 2012 at 9:37 PM

Its important to note that the MI AG found no evidence whatsoever that McCotter was criminally responsible in any way, just terribly poor at managing his staff.

vegconservative on August 16, 2012 at 9:38 PM

Showing ID is not controvertial. I just don’t get their objections. Obviously they’re just upset that all the dead people won’t be able to vote.

gina4 on August 16, 2012 at 9:35 PM

Don’t forget the felons and foreigners. Both are important constituencies.

trigon on August 16, 2012 at 9:40 PM

We got voter ID passed in WI, but the dummycrats got a liberal judge to place a permanent injunction on the darn thing. There is a 5-4 conservative advantage on our state supreme court, but they don’t have the cajones to take it up! Can you frickin’ believe that?? After all our state has been through, the court will not stand up for it’s citizens. Will Scott Walker please loan the court the use of his steely ones? Or at least his spine??? It’s just inconceivable to me that they will allow the most important election of our lives to be put in danger of theft by voter fraud!

Sasha List on August 16, 2012 at 9:42 PM

Obamacare was passed because of voter fraud.

malclave on August 16, 2012 at 9:42 PM

Daym, daym, DAYYUUMM!!!

rndmusrnm on August 16, 2012 at 9:43 PM

There’s a town in Georgia, just across the state line from us, where several elections ago the voters miraculously showed up at the poll in alphabetical order.

AubieJon on August 16, 2012 at 9:44 PM

I don’t care which party is committing election fraud, let’s move to stop it and clean it up.

thatsafactjack on August 16, 2012 at 9:45 PM

Just have polling places in government buildings that require photo ID to enter. Problem solved.

meci on August 16, 2012 at 9:54 PM

To the Dems, it’s not voter fraud. It’s an election tactic. I laugh at their alligator tears over this McCotter incident, but they’ve been doing this for as many decades as I have been alive, and far worse. My only regret is that our side has not done so, as a rule.

The Dems understand so well what one of their icons, Vladimir Lenin, said so many years ago. “The purpose of war is not to defeat your enemy, but to wipe them from the face of the earth.”

While it is so nice and gentile to talk of principles and virtue and honor over tea and crumpets or wine and brie, when your enemy has sworn holy war on you and seeks your elimination, ALL means justify your ends to decimate them first.

It is only after that moment when such delicate conversations should take place. In this election, we have a chance to set them back a few years, but until everyone else understands that they seek our complete annihilation and has a willingness to wipe them out as well, we are chained still on their plantation.

TXUS on August 16, 2012 at 9:55 PM

Pic of the Nite: Only Once?

Resist We Much on August 16, 2012 at 9:53 PM

And the left wants us to think…
Voting is fair and balanced…

Electrongod on August 16, 2012 at 9:58 PM

I really like Rep. McCotter, this is very disappointing.

Cindy Munford on August 16, 2012 at 9:58 PM

It is only after that moment when such delicate conversations should take place. In this election, we have a chance to set them back a few years, but until everyone else understands that they seek our complete annihilation and has a willingness to wipe them out as well, we are chained still on their plantation.

TXUS on August 16, 2012 at 9:55 PM

Very well said, TXUS. It fits in well with what Rush has said, that the Dems hate us as The Conservative Enemy, period, more than any other group they might have animosity against.

PatriotGal2257 on August 16, 2012 at 10:11 PM

And the left wants us to think…
Voting is fair and balanced…

Electrongod on August 16, 2012 at 9:58 PM

I’m fairly certain that the pic is a joke. In my searches for other things over time, I’ve come across it and did so again this morning. When I saw the subject of this thread, I went and found it because I think it is funny.

On a serious note, here are some examples of Democratic election and voter fraud, including cases where people PLEADED GUILTY TO THE CHARGES:

Every Vote Counts, But Some Votes Count More Than Others…Especially If They Are Cast For Democrats

Then, here’s Jimmy Carter coming out in favour of voter ID — calling it “one of the five pillars that would build confidence in the integrity of federal elections”:


The NAACP, Voter ID Laws, the UN, and Jimmy Carter

Resist We Much on August 16, 2012 at 10:12 PM

just the name alone, Thad McCotter come on !!!!!! can you find a much more of a Douchebag of a name??????

President Thad??
Pres McCotter? Pin?

murrayjones on August 16, 2012 at 10:29 PM

It always amazes me that more Democrats don’t speak out against voter fraud in my area, because in my neck of the woods vote fraud is largely a Dem-on-Dem crime, with one faction stealing the election from another faction in the Democratic primary.

JimLennon on August 16, 2012 at 10:41 PM

Natalie Mosher, a Canton Democrat who lost to McCotter in 2010. “I’m angry, because I think the voters of the district got taken for a ride by this guy.”

But…but…but Natalie. YOUR people say that “voter fraud NEVER HAPPENS”!

GarandFan on August 16, 2012 at 10:48 PM

The country club republicans never wanted to rock the boat, just get along with dems. It’s the tea party volunteers who are bringing this kinda stuff to the light.

But people showing up at the poles and assuming a false identity is at most 5% of the problem.

When a city has a democrat clerk in possession of voters lists, tax rolls, water dept. customers, building inspection data, etc. etc. then for a few weeks before the election, down in the basement of the democratic club, paid union volunteers are gonna be filling out ballots, both absentee and regular.

It’s only when there’s a recount that these ballots are “unexpectedly discovered in the trunk of someone’s car, the rest of the time they get filtered in without anyone noticing.

halfbaked on August 16, 2012 at 10:48 PM

Can you say, Al Franken?

stukinIL4now on August 16, 2012 at 11:18 PM

Come on Hot Air just did a story on this creep.

Less than a month ago he was saying the Republicans were becoming too extreem. That the Tea Party was bad for the Republican Party.

Here is a link.

How is it that did not make it in this article?

Steveangell on August 16, 2012 at 11:25 PM

In 1964, the Democrats in Philadelphia were paying people off the street $5 to vote supposedly for Democrats. They apparently believed that once bought you stayed bought, so you were actually allowed to vote behind the curtain. Some Goldwater college kids I knew heard about it and went down, collected their $5 and voted for Goldwater. Note that $5 was a big deal in 1964 when gas and cigarettes were generally less than $0.30.

amr on August 17, 2012 at 7:29 AM

Look, can we get rid of the auto-refresh on the individual story pages? Please? This is annoying as heck.

To prevent ballot fraud, there’s an expensive, but robust solution:

-Electronic voting machine, linked via VPN to a cetral counting computer (with no other outside access);
-Scanner linked to a different central computer (same conditions);
-Voter votes, and the machine confirms his vote, then prints out a paper ballot showing his choices;
-Machine stores vote locally, and transmits to central computer;
-Voter puts paper ballot through scanner, which records the vote locally and transmits to the central computer;
-Paper ballot gets dropped into a sealed box.

There’s 5 counts that have to coincide. And, any piece of the system which doesn’t have a complete chain of custody becomes invalid.

To prevent absentee ballot fraud, you must do three things:

-Require re-registration (in-person, or a visit due to a medical waiver) each year of anyone filing an absentee ballot in the previous year;
-Require two signatures of witnesses (or a notary);
-Require the ballot be scanned (using the system above) and dropped into a sealed box.

GWB on August 17, 2012 at 9:48 AM

I really never bought into the whole “liberalism is a disease” thing. But over the past few years… it’s either that or these people are malicious. Obama and the Democrats mandated we all buy health insurance. You have to have an ID for that. Them’s some chains right there.

roopster217 on August 17, 2012 at 11:50 AM

roopster217 on August 17, 2012 at 11:50 AM

No sense in limiting yourself – “liberalism is a disease” and malice aforethought are not mutually exclusive conditions!

GWB on August 17, 2012 at 1:51 PM