Quotes of the day

posted at 10:32 pm on August 15, 2012 by Allahpundit

Presumptive Republican vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan launched an offensive on President Barack Obama’s cuts to medicare to pay for ObamaCare, his first public reference to the issue since accepting the role as Mitt Romney’s running mate.

“The president took $716 billion from the Medicare program, he raided it, to pay for ObamaCare,” Ryan expained, noting that an Obama aide called the cuts an “achievement” in a television interview…

“Governor Romney and I will protect and strengthen Medicare for our current seniors and for our future seniors of tomorrow,” Ryan added…

“I’m told President Obama is talking about Medicare today, “Ryan said. “We want this debate. We need this debate. And we will win this debate.”

***

Ryan plans, for the first time, to travel on his own this weekend to senior-heavy Florida, where his campaign has said he will address entitlement reform.

A Ryan campaign aide emailed reporters to say that Ryan would “highlight President Obama’s record of slashing Medicare for current Florida seniors to fund Obamacare.” And a second campaign aide, speaking to reporters in Denver on Tuesday, told reporters that “this is a debate we invite.”

“The message here is that we’re on offense on Medicare,” the aide told reporters. “There’s only one candidate in this race that has raided over $700 billion dollars from Medicare in order to set up a new entitlement that we can’t afford and is making it harder for businesses — especially small businesses — to create jobs.”

***

Some Republicans worry that fighting about Medicare takes valuable time from talking about jobs, growth and deficits. True, but this fight was coming anyway. Better to debate it now in ways the Romney campaign can control rather than see it raised in the campaign’s final moments through under-the-radar robo calls and mailers to seniors by Democrats.

It is said that in politics, if you’re explaining, you’re losing. That’s not always true. Sometimes when you’re explaining, you’re reassuring voters and undermining your opponent’s credibility.

That’s the case with this issue now. It’s why Team Romney was smart to quickly run an ad attacking Mr. Obama for robbing Medicare to pay for ObamaCare.

Democrats have long had an issue advantage on Medicare. Republicans cowered in fear. This time it’s different. The Romney-Ryan ticket is not only talking about Medicare, it is putting Mr. Obama on the defensive. If Republicans succeed, politics will never be the same.

***

In the last few days, the Romney campaign has moved to dramatically change the terrain of Medicare politics, and it looks like the Democrats are beginning to realize how vulnerable they might be. Because of Obamacare, it is the Democrats who now plan to cut current seniors’ benefits (especially those in Medicare Advantage) and access to care (thanks to the IPAB) while still failing to avert the program’s (and the nation’s) fiscal collapse, and because Romney would repeal Obamacare and pursue a version of the Ryan-Wyden premium-support reform it is the Republicans who would protect current seniors’ benefits and make them available to future seniors while saving the program from collapse through market reforms. Through the candidates’ statements this week and through this new ad, Romney and Ryan have made clear they’re going to inform voters about this and force the Democrats to defend themselves on Medicare.

That won’t be easy for the Left, since the Romney campaign’s charges are true, and it is beginning to become apparent that the Democrats are totally unprepared for the coming fight. Their defenses so far fall into roughly three categories: Ryan did it too, the Obamacare Medicare cuts aren’t very serious, and finally what can only be called frantic distractions. Even as pure demagoguery (let alone as efforts at actual substantive arguments) all three are exceptionally weak defenses, and suggest the Democrats could be in serious trouble.

***

Rather than instituting free market reforms, the Democrats are applying governmental infrastructures like the Independent Payment Advisory Board (IPAB). This, they hope, will tame the runaway cost of Medicare, but it also will ruin traditional Medicare for future recipients as well. The program will be fundamentally different in the future than it is today, thanks to the IPAB, which will be unelected and largely free to act without interference from Congress. If the GOP is vulnerable on premium supports, Democrats are at least as vulnerable on the IPAB…

So, where does that leave us? The GOP has proposed a premium support program for the next generation of recipients in the hopes of saving Medicare for the future. Politically dangerous, for sure. But the Democrats have blown past mere danger and charged headfirst into the utterly suicidal: They are using a top-down governmental board to cut costs in ways that will likely diminish the availability of care, not to secure the future of the program but to bankroll a brand new entitlement.

So, who is more vulnerable to “Mediscare” this cycle?

Answer: the Democrats.

***

There are many Americans who believe two things about where things stand right now: The Romney-Ryan approach is unacceptable, and the status quo is unsustainable. Obama may be able to win the election by persuading a majority of the few voters still open to persuasion that in the short-term, the status quo is preferable to Romney-Ryan. But if he closes the deal by shutting the door to the reforms that we may well need in the long-term, it will be a Pyrrhic victory.

Let me be specific. A number of Democrats once believed—and some still do—that a well-crafted version of premium support is part of a balanced and sustainable long-term fix for Medicare. If the effect of the Ryan choice is to take not only the Ryan budget’s version of premium support off the table, but also the kinds of approaches that Alice Rivlin and Ron Wyden have proposed, then we’ll be left with far less appealing options for stabilizing Medicare.

***

In a November 2009 interview with ABC News’ Jake Tapper, Obama acknowledged that a third of the funding for ObamaCare came from cutting Medicare

Tapper went on to ask Obama whether he would allow Congress to repeal or patch the Medicare cuts as it does every year with the so-called Doc Fix, a measure designed to ensure adequate reimbursement payments are maintained to doctors who care for patients covered by Medicare.

Obama said that his Medicare cuts were permanent and that he would never allow Congress to repeal them.

***

“I think the Democrats are discovering that they stepped on a land mine with Medicare.”

***


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Another ‘Doctor’ tune

thatsafactjack on August 16, 2012 at 1:24 AM

Bmore on August 16, 2012 at 1:19 AM

Very nice..:)

PS..Or it could be this Doctor!..:)

Dire Straits on August 16, 2012 at 1:25 AM

Okay, my son told me to tell you all that the US beat Mexico in soccer tonight for the first time ever. Apparently the chant is “USA ain’t nothing to f**k with”. Charming.

Cindy Munford on August 16, 2012 at 1:25 AM

Bmore on August 16, 2012 at 1:23 AM

LOL! You’re not leaving so soon are you?

thatsafactjack on August 16, 2012 at 1:26 AM

If it is the only option than yes. I really feel strongly about facebook. And obviously it has nothing to do with anonymity.

Cindy Munford on August 16, 2012 at 1:17 AM

I felt you might, and I knew it didn’t, have anything to do with anonymity. Lol! ; ) We just don’t dig FB HA, Do you care? Do you even hear us?

Bmore on August 16, 2012 at 1:26 AM

Here is how he will spin it!..:)

Dire Straits on August 16, 2012 at 1:20 AM

Lol. Though they’ve been getting slightly tougher on his “this is a run out the clock situation”, I’d still bet he’d get away with it. (TAPPER!)

Well, my dear friends, I am going to bid you adieu. Sweet dreams.

Resist We Much on August 16, 2012 at 1:19 AM

Sleep well. And consider it done. :)

RedCrow on August 16, 2012 at 1:26 AM

Very nice..:)

PS..Or it could be this Doctor!..:)

Dire Straits on August 16, 2012 at 1:25 AM

As always a great choice my friend. : )

Bmore on August 16, 2012 at 1:27 AM

I said echo chambers bring their own strangers.

2Tru2Tru on August 16, 2012 at 1:28 AM

LOL! You’re not leaving so soon are you?

thatsafactjack on August 16, 2012 at 1:26 AM

I’m heading that way. They have me on an early call time. I will be getting treated to lunch at one of my favorite places tomorrow. So I am looking forward to the client treating for a change. ; )

Bmore on August 16, 2012 at 1:29 AM

RedCrow on August 16, 2012 at 1:19 AM

…how do you think Hoeskstra will do against the dead brained redhead?…I wrote you a couple of long ones the other night…but you had run already. I think Durant would have done better…we’ll see.

KOOLAID2 on August 16, 2012 at 1:29 AM

BOOT HILL

Maybe this is Obama’s new tune because its all over now!

thatsafactjack on August 16, 2012 at 1:29 AM

ED…

We demand a forum.

Will anyone else back me on at least a thread about this?

wolly4321 on August 16, 2012 at 1:31 AM

HA, Do you care? Do you even hear us?

Bmore on August 16, 2012 at 1:26 AM

Couldn’t help myself.

RedCrow on August 16, 2012 at 1:31 AM

Bmore on August 16, 2012 at 1:29 AM

Best of luck with the meeting!

thatsafactjack on August 16, 2012 at 1:31 AM

Bmore on August 16, 2012 at 1:26 AM

The bottom line must win.

Cindy Munford on August 16, 2012 at 1:32 AM

KOOLAID2 on August 16, 2012 at 1:29 AM

Oh. Sorry I missed ‘em.

I voted Durant, too. Everything I’ve seen has the oompa-loompa up by double digits. Hoekstra’s made some big mistakes. I’ll vote for him, but I don’t think Tea Partiers are too keen.

RedCrow on August 16, 2012 at 1:34 AM

Good Night Resist We Much, Pleasant Dreams.

Bmore on August 16, 2012 at 1:34 AM

Goodnight RWM!

thatsafactjack on August 16, 2012 at 1:35 AM

Well, time for me to skedaddle, too. This is the latest I’ve stayed up (on a school night, lol) in about a month.

Ever since Aunt Polly went to civilizin’ me.

Will HA still be here in the morning?
Night, all.

RedCrow on August 16, 2012 at 1:37 AM

The bottom line must win.

Cindy Munford on August 16, 2012 at 1:32 AM

Yep. At least we are on the field participating. Maybe they will think better of a possible mutiny. We give them plenty of comments without help from the dreaded FBers. Just look at how QOTD is on average now. We are fixing to hit page 7 shortly. Come on HA give us our props!

Bmore on August 16, 2012 at 1:39 AM

Empty Rooms

thatsafactjack on August 16, 2012 at 1:39 AM

Good Night RC, Sleep Well.

Bmore on August 16, 2012 at 1:40 AM

Goodnight, RedCrow. Sleep well.

thatsafactjack on August 16, 2012 at 1:40 AM

http://youtu.be/VEEfDdJyxPY

Hi Jackie: popped in for a minute. been a long day. thought i’d play this one for you. student schooling the master maybe. this guy is great.

Fred

jrsrigmvr on August 16, 2012 at 1:41 AM

Cindy Munford on August 16, 2012 at 1:25 AM

Okay, I passed on some bad information. Apparently the USA has beaten Mexico at soccer just not in Mexico. The oldest boy wonder is so stoked! Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. I’m calling it a night.

Cindy Munford on August 16, 2012 at 1:44 AM

Here’s the thing.

If the FB crowd gets turned lose in here, they’ll swarm us with liberal trolls. It will degenerate into something like the FOX forums, where its just a continual troll fest and no one will get to express a cogent thought anymore. There will be no dialogue at all.

IF the goal is for SOROS to kill HA that would be the best route for him to take. The site would cease to exist as a conservative commentary or blog in nothing flat.

All of us would leave. Before long Ed and Allah and MKH and Erika would all find other jobs. HA would be gone and there would be another Slate or Beast in its place.

thatsafactjack on August 16, 2012 at 1:45 AM

Come on HA give us our props!

Bmore on August 16, 2012 at 1:39 AM

Seven pages many of which is whining that we don’t want anything to change. LOL! Clicks is clicks.

Cindy Munford on August 16, 2012 at 1:46 AM

jrsrigmvr on August 16, 2012 at 1:41 AM

Good evening, Fred! Its nice to see you! EXCELLENT TUNE! Aren’t they great together?

thatsafactjack on August 16, 2012 at 1:46 AM

thatsafactjack on August 16, 2012 at 1:45 AM

It seems like open commenting would make more sense than that. They do it at Ace and Daily Caller. Ace would probably be a better fit for me if I left here. I like funny people and they are hysterical.

Cindy Munford on August 16, 2012 at 1:48 AM

thatsafactjack on August 16, 2012 at 1:46 AM

their sound is quite similar. I had never heard of Joe ’til you put one of his up the other night. Thank you.

jrsrigmvr on August 16, 2012 at 1:50 AM

Cindy Munford on August 16, 2012 at 1:48 AM

You’re an optimist! I like that about you.

thatsafactjack on August 16, 2012 at 1:50 AM

jrsrigmvr on August 16, 2012 at 1:50 AM

You’re most welcome, Fred. Its my pleasure. Now that Gary Moore is gone, I think Bonamassa likely is next up.

thatsafactjack on August 16, 2012 at 1:51 AM

thatsafactjack on August 16, 2012 at 1:50 AM

Thanks, it annoys some people but again, that is a feature, not a flaw. “See” y’all later.

Cindy Munford on August 16, 2012 at 1:53 AM

Uh Uh Obama and Biden are going to have a quiet lunch tomorrow. Bye Bye Biden

http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/15/obama-biden-to-share-lunch-wednesday-after-two-days-of-gaffes/

Conservative4ev on August 16, 2012 at 1:55 AM

Perhaps if the moderators were vigilant and banned people for excessive posts, it might be possible to open registration.

Still, I’m skeptical.

thatsafactjack on August 16, 2012 at 1:56 AM

Cindy Munford on August 16, 2012 at 1:53 AM

Goodnight, Cindy. Sleep well.

thatsafactjack on August 16, 2012 at 1:57 AM

These statements came after Biden had stayed off the campaign trail for almost a week. Campaign officials did not explain why he had spent most of week at home in Delaware, while Obama continued on the campaign trail.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/15/obama-biden-to-share-lunch-wednesday-after-two-days-of-gaffes/#ixzz23gai10eZ

Of course, he was seeing a doctor Duh so freaking phoney

Conservative4ev on August 16, 2012 at 1:57 AM

Good Night Cindy, Sweet Dreams.

Bmore on August 16, 2012 at 1:58 AM

Mountain Time

thatsafactjack on August 16, 2012 at 2:00 AM

thatsafactjack on August 16, 2012 at 1:51 AM

I concur but alas I’m very set in my ways and clapton, gilmore, & stevie ray are still at the top of my list. If I last long enough Joe could come out on top though. He’s young and needs a little time yet.

jrsrigmvr on August 16, 2012 at 2:01 AM

jrsrigmvr on August 16, 2012 at 2:01 AM

I, too, am interested to see how he matures. Stevie Ray was just hitting his stride when he died and Gary Moore’s work had become a great deal more sophisticated and complex as he matured, too.

I think Bonamassa has a lot of promise if he can go the distance.

thatsafactjack on August 16, 2012 at 2:03 AM

jrsrigmvr on August 16, 2012 at 2:01 AM

So how have you been, Fred? How did America look on your last road trip?

thatsafactjack on August 16, 2012 at 2:05 AM

thatsafactjack on August 16, 2012 at 1:51 AM

I’d pay good hard earned money and travel a ways to see him live.

jrsrigmvr on August 16, 2012 at 2:09 AM

jrsrigmvr on August 16, 2012 at 2:09 AM

He’s touring abroad right now, but he’s coming back to the States in October. He’s booked solid. He’ll be making his way across the country. There’s a list on his website.

thatsafactjack on August 16, 2012 at 2:14 AM

Happier Times

thatsafactjack on August 16, 2012 at 2:15 AM

Conservative4ev on August 16, 2012 at 1:57 AM

I enjoyed the ten things gun guys never say article over there. Lol!

Bmore on August 16, 2012 at 2:18 AM

Radford VA bakery ‘Crumb and Get It’ tells Biden advance team ‘no thanks’ when they wanted to bring Biden thru, did so over the ‘You didn’t build that’ remark.

They deserve your custom, to go with the audit they’ll get.

http://weaselzippers.us/2012/08/15/virginia-bakery-refuses-to-serve-biden-angry-over-obamas-you-didnt-build-that-comment/

rayra on August 16, 2012 at 2:20 AM

thatsafactjack on August 16, 2012 at 1:51 AM

I just put the headphones on my oldest son. He likes Joe too and he is more musically knowlegable than I.

I will check out his schedule but not likely he’ll be playing La Barge any time soon. LOL

jrsrigmvr on August 16, 2012 at 2:25 AM

Good Night All.

Bmore on August 16, 2012 at 2:26 AM

I will bid you all a fond goodnight. Its been a pleasure, as always. Sleep well. I’ll see you soon.

thatsafactjack on August 16, 2012 at 2:28 AM

jrsrigmvr on August 16, 2012 at 2:25 AM

PS- It sounds like you raised him right, Fred! Goodnight, sleep well.

thatsafactjack on August 16, 2012 at 2:29 AM

nite bmore, jackie & all

adios: vaya con dios
Fred

jrsrigmvr on August 16, 2012 at 2:33 AM

Barack Obama has never fought a campaign against an aggressive opponent who takes the initiative on issues. Obama is used to being the aggressor and having his opponent react to his attacks. That isn’t going to happen this time. Obama, for the first time in his life is in a fight with a major league campaign. Romney isn’t going to “suspend” his campaign in September to run back to Massachusetts right in the heat of things like McCain did.

Obama won his state legislature and US Senate seats on dirty tricks that caused his opponents to either withdraw or become irrelevant. That isn’t happening this time, either.

Much of Obama’s campaign staff are people who have run campaigns for “progressive” Democrats in deep blue states. They don’t understand how their pet issues like Romney’s tax forms don’t really play well in Peoria. People in the average town want jobs, not programs. They want their employers to prosper so they can get a raise not be punished.

Obama and the people who surround him are so out of touch with the American people living outside of the bluest of blue areas, that they are going to be completely blind-sided by what is coming.

They spent boatloads of money in June, July, and so far in August to attempt to bury Romney before the conventions in a hole so deep he couldn’t dig himself out. Instead, the barrage didn’t even dent the wall. Didn’t move the meter. Had no impact. All it did was kept him from falling too far behind himself. He was treading water. Now the Romney campaign is four days old and Romney is ahead in Ohio, Virginia, and Florida.

Obama and his staff right now are laying big giant square eggs and it is obvious that they are in severe pain.

crosspatch on August 16, 2012 at 2:43 AM

Who really unchained Wall Street?

In keeping with the left’s blaxploitation enterprise, white Northerner Joe Biden feigned the hemistichical rhythm of a Southern black preacher for his largely black audience in Virginia yesterday:

They’ve said it. Every Republican’s voted for it. Look at what they value and look at their budget and what they’re proposing. Romney wants to let the-he said in the first 100 days, he’s going to let the big banks once again write their own rules. Unchain Wall Street! They gawn’ put y’all back in chains.

For all the bluster of Obama, pre- and post-2008, as well as that of Attorney General Eric Holder concerning the alleged criminal activities on Wall Street, there have been zero Wall Street prosecutions under Obama/Holder. Compare that with his predecessors Bush and Clinton.

Bush – 1,300 convictions;

Clinton – 1,000 convictions;

Obama – Zero attempts.

And why the difference in prosecuting the law? The GAI report reveals that the Department of Justice upper echelon is stacked with attorneys from law firms representing the very same companies involved in the financial meltdown of 2008, as well as financial corporations with questionable actions during the Obama administration…AIG, Goldman Sachs, Wells Fargo, J.P. Morgan Chase, Bank of America, CitiBank, Deutsche Bank, ING, Morgan Stanley, UBS, Wilmington Trust, and John Corzine’s MF Global.

These very same DoJ attorneys also happen to be some of Obama’s biggest bundlers for Obama’s 2008 bid for president.

“When we think of cronyism and the problems of cronyism and crony capitalism, we think in terms of economic loss and gain,” Schweizer said in a phone interview. “What we’re showing here is that cronyism is now permeating our justice system. So, it’s not just a question of dollars and cents, it’s a question of whether you’re going to face legal jeopardy or not on what you’re doing.”

Unchain Wall Street, Joe? There is no more corrupt and capricious “unchaining” of Wall Street that President Romney could possibly effect. Under Obama and Holder, “the chains” are dependent on not the Rule of Law, but rather the Law(lessness) of Men.

VorDaj on August 16, 2012 at 2:50 AM

The very first line out of Romney’s mouth in the first debate should be along the lines of “I am not going to whine for four years about the mess we inherit”. That will pretty much shut Obama down on any economic talk because the first thing Obama is going to want to do is complain about what he inherited from Bush. That comment by Romney will shut that right down. The second thing out of his mouth should be something like: “And we aren’t going to complain about how difficult it is, we expect it to be hard. Being President is a hard job”.

At that point Obama will likely go into his hemming and hawing grasping for words mode because Romney would have cut him off at the knees with those two sentences.

crosspatch on August 16, 2012 at 2:53 AM

“… politics will never be the same.”

I hope not.

You’re on a campaign trip/That forces a mind flip/And politics can never be the same.

njcommuter on August 16, 2012 at 3:44 AM

Just going to say to those few people that have been saying Biden may be replaced.

I don’t see it happening. The Obama campaign has obviously been playing under the assumption that they were going to use Biden until now, so if they decided they HAD to replace him they’d have to do the worlds fastest VP search. They’d literally have maybe two weeks to make a field of possible VP’s, vet them, then convince one of them to jump onto the ticket.

That’d be extraordinarily difficult to pull off in such a short period of time, and in rushing it they’re just as likely to end up with somebody who is just as big a liability as Biden.

I’ve heard some people claim they could grab Hillary, but I rather doubt she’d go for it. My understanding is the Clintons and their clique have decided they don’t like the Obama campaign. Which is part is why most individuals heavily associated with the Clintons have been borderline antagonistic towards the Obamas at times. Whats more, if Obama loses Hillary will be in a better position to make a successful White House run in 2016. It’s rather difficult for a single party to hold the party three terms in a row, so Hillary has a better shot at running against Romney in 2016 than almost anybody else.

Whats more, even with a Clinton on the ticket, there’s still a very good chance Obama would lose. If that were to happen, Hillaries future prospects would dim significantly. For that matter, it’d hurt the prospects of anybody named Clinton.

So, no, I cannot see the Clintons taking such a risk to help somebody they’re obviously not fond of.

WolvenOne on August 16, 2012 at 5:05 AM

Commenting to see the comments.

BuckeyeSam on August 16, 2012 at 6:09 AM

Hoisted on their own petards!

Terrye on August 16, 2012 at 6:56 AM

BuckeyeSam on August 16, 2012 at 6:09 AM

Here’s one, Buckeye. I’m not worried about cankles Clinton. She brings no demographics to the ticket BO doesn’t already have and as far as foreign policy goes she’s been an Obama administration whore stamping her approval on the Muslim Brotherhood. Paul Ryan would mop the floor with her in a debate. And how Team Obama could stand by with Iran and Syria having their way….shameful. BO will lose by an even wider margin once all this sees the day of light.

gracie on August 16, 2012 at 7:02 AM

day of light

oops

light of day

gracie on August 16, 2012 at 7:04 AM

Good morning!

So what is the mj crew talking about this am?

cmsinaz on August 16, 2012 at 7:06 AM

cmsinaz on August 16, 2012 at 7:06 AM

Tom Brokaw is on right now. They are all very concerned about the new ads highlighting the buyer’s remorse of the 08 obama voters. “Very effective” “That’s a Superpac ad, you know!”

#War

Naturally Curly on August 16, 2012 at 7:13 AM

Moochelle doubling down on Cancer ad?

bayview on August 16, 2012 at 7:17 AM

Moochelle doubling down on Cancer ad?

bayview on August 16, 2012 at 7:17 AM

Fox And Friends led with that tease and repeated that prior to the actual segment, but it was a nothing burger.

bayview on August 16, 2012 at 7:30 AM

The fact that Obama had to give a speech on Medicare yesterday shows that he’s losing.

The Ryan pick has turned out to be a master stroke.

johnboy on August 16, 2012 at 7:30 AM

“Now more than ever the people are responsible for the character of their Congress. If that body be ignorant, reckless, and corrupt, it is because the people tolerate ignorance, recklessness, and corruption.” – President James Garfield in 1877

Flora Duh on August 16, 2012 at 7:42 AM

Obama and his staff right now are laying big giant square eggs and it is obvious that they are in severe pain.

crosspatch on August 16, 2012 at 2:43 AM

What they need is a “game-changer.”

Oh, lookee. Barack is meeting with Biden today…

These statements came after Biden had stayed off the campaign trail for almost a week. Campaign officials did not explain why he had spent most of week at home in Delaware, while Obama continued on the campaign trail.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/15/obama-biden-to-share-lunch-wednesday-after-two-days-of-gaffes/#ixzz23gai10eZ

Of course, he was seeing a doctor Duh so freaking phoney

Conservative4ev on August 16, 2012 at 1:57 AM

I think we all know what’s coming. What we don’t know is if the voting public will buy it. My inner pessimist says they will. Ryan is sucking all of the air out of barack’s campaign. A new VP on Obama’s ticket will stop that. He’s going for it.

Rational Thought on August 16, 2012 at 7:43 AM

johnboy on August 16, 2012 at 7:30 AM

i thought it was all the economy. its the jobs stupid.

nothing better for obama than medicare.

forget the real truth, the propaganda that the ryan plan will cut medicare for seniors is all that will get through all the noise.

obama stays committed and on course. romney is destined waver and waffle.

renalin on August 16, 2012 at 7:44 AM

Thanks NC…..

Damn those gop superpac ads
-lsm

cmsinaz on August 16, 2012 at 7:48 AM

Speaking of Medicare part of the AM discussion on L-com is a trackback to HotAir by Don Irvine of Accuracy in Media about Ryan’s comments on his own mother’s Medicare situation conveniently hit the cutting room floor by the hacks over at 60 minutes.

http://www.aim.org/don-irvine-blog/60-minutes-omis-out-ryans-comments-on-medicare/

Ryan could reference this See-BS omission offense during the debates or if the RNC had any ‘nads (I know, I know) they should be angrily demanding shill Bob Schieffer be replaced with a moderator chosen from less biased network. Brett Baier, for instance?

viking01 on August 16, 2012 at 7:48 AM

@RyanGOP Contrasting VP headlines today – LA Times: “Paul Ryan unfazed by spotlight’s glare”/ Wash Post: “Obama defends Biden on ‘chains’ comment”

Flora Duh on August 16, 2012 at 7:49 AM

John Sununu was amazing this morning on Fox & Friends. Very tough responses regarding Obama and Biden’s desperate race card-playing and the vile pro-Obama “Romney killed my wife” ad.

Love Sununu!

bluegill on August 16, 2012 at 7:50 AM

The very first line out of Romney’s mouth in the first debate should be along the lines of “I am not going to whine for four years about the mess we inherit”. That will pretty much shut Obama down on any economic talk because the first thing Obama is going to want to do is complain about what he inherited from Bush. That comment by Romney will shut that right down. The second thing out of his mouth should be something like: “And we aren’t going to complain about how difficult it is, we expect it to be hard. Being President is a hard job”.

At that point Obama will likely go into his hemming and hawing grasping for words mode because Romney would have cut him off at the knees with those two sentences.

crosspatch on August 16, 2012 at 2:53 AM

This is a very good point. I imagine something like: “Yes, Mr. President, you inherited a mess, and you made it worse. Much, much worse. And you refuse to take responsibility for that. You just blame others. When I’m president I won’t spend four years blaming you and making your mess even worse. I’ll fix it.”

Rational Thought on August 16, 2012 at 7:52 AM

I think we all know what’s coming. What we don’t know is if the voting public will buy it. My inner pessimist says they will. Ryan is sucking all of the air out of barack’s campaign. A new VP on Obama’s ticket will stop that. He’s going for it.

Rational Thought on August 16, 2012 at 7:43 AM

I correctly predicted the Palin pick months in advance, and I also predicted the Ryan pick a long time ago.

Now I’m going to look into my bluegill crystal ball and let you know that… Biden will not be replaced with Hillary. Absolutely not happening.

bluegill on August 16, 2012 at 7:55 AM

ust going to say to those few people that have been saying Biden may be replaced.

I don’t see it happening. The Obama campaign has obviously been playing under the assumption that they were going to use Biden until now, so if they decided they HAD to replace him they’d have to do the worlds fastest VP search. They’d literally have maybe two weeks to make a field of possible VP’s, vet them, then convince one of them to jump onto the ticket.

That’d be extraordinarily difficult to pull off in such a short period of time, and in rushing it they’re just as likely to end up with somebody who is just as big a liability as Biden.

I’ve heard some people claim they could grab Hillary, but I rather doubt she’d go for it. My understanding is the Clintons and their clique have decided they don’t like the Obama campaign. Which is part is why most individuals heavily associated with the Clintons have been borderline antagonistic towards the Obamas at times. Whats more, if Obama loses Hillary will be in a better position to make a successful White House run in 2016. It’s rather difficult for a single party to hold the party three terms in a row, so Hillary has a better shot at running against Romney in 2016 than almost anybody else.

Whats more, even with a Clinton on the ticket, there’s still a very good chance Obama would lose. If that were to happen, Hillaries future prospects would dim significantly. For that matter, it’d hurt the prospects of anybody named Clinton.

So, no, I cannot see the Clintons taking such a risk to help somebody they’re obviously not fond of.

WolvenOne on August 16, 2012 at 5:05 AM

Good points here, but I do not think the Clintons carry as much enmity for Obama as others think they do. They are both political animals, and they feed off the democrat machine. Still, you’re half convincing me that barack won’t pull the trigger on this. Half convinced. I still think it’s very likely, and that really pisses me off because I LOVE that we are finally having a real campaign conversation and pounding the dems on their lies and demagoguery.

Rational Thought on August 16, 2012 at 7:56 AM

If Barky is seriously considering Hillary for VP he should remember Jim “Whitewater” McDougal.

That’s another guy that got between the Clintoons and power and Just-Us and died oh-so-conveniently. At least his wife Susan McDougal realized she had best clam up on testimony and take the Contempt of Court rap instead of squealing thus managed to survive that lengthy episode of Arkansas politics some refer to as Arkancide.

viking01 on August 16, 2012 at 7:56 AM

Radford business owner declines request from Joe Biden’s entourage to stop in store

The owner of Crumb and Get It says he doesn’t agree with the Obama administration’s policies.

[snip]

Here’s the back story, we’re told that shortly after Crumb and Get It told Biden’s advance people ‘no’ — the secret service walked in and told Chris McMurray ”Thanks for standing up and saying ‘no’ — then they bought a whole bunch of cookies and cupcakes.

whoa!

Flora Duh on August 16, 2012 at 7:57 AM

The very first line out of Romney’s mouth in the first debate should be along the lines of “I am not going to whine for four years about the mess we inherit”. That will pretty much shut Obama down on any economic talk because the first thing Obama is going to want to do is complain about what he inherited from Bush. That comment by Romney will shut that right down. The second thing out of his mouth should be something like: “And we aren’t going to complain about how difficult it is, we expect it to be hard. Being President is a hard job”.

At that point Obama will likely go into his hemming and hawing grasping for words mode because Romney would have cut him off at the knees with those two sentences.

crosspatch on August 16, 2012 at 2:53 AM

^^^Brilliant! Love, love, love this.

All we hear from Obama supporters is excuse-making and what a bad situation poor ol’ Barack inherited.

bluegill on August 16, 2012 at 7:58 AM

Me likey RT @7:52

Stop him in his tracks

cmsinaz on August 16, 2012 at 8:00 AM

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/08/16/why-the-screwed-generation-is-turning-to-paul-ryan.html

Romney/Ryan should hit again and again the irresponsibility of saddling the younger generation and their children with unsustainable debts. They should are correct in conveying the message of hope and restoration. Zogby’s poll noting increase in support of under 40 years old for Romney/Ryan can be very real.

bayview on August 16, 2012 at 8:01 AM

Whoa indeed flora

cmsinaz on August 16, 2012 at 8:03 AM

@RyanGOP Contrasting VP headlines today – LA Times: “Paul Ryan unfazed by spotlight’s glare”/ Wash Post: “Obama defends Biden on ‘chains’ comment”

Flora Duh on August 16, 2012 at 7:49 AM

.
Now that IS a contrast !

The Divido-crats are definitely gonna be in full panic soon, if not already !

That’s why Palin- and now McCain are getting ahead of the curve with the “draft Shillary for VP” talk. Ocommie needs Clinton’s help big time and will now have to take Sarah’s “advice” , and dump Joe biddie brains.
Another Palin, ” I told you so ”

Chess anyone ?

FlaMurph on August 16, 2012 at 8:05 AM

FlaMurph on August 16, 2012 at 8:05 AM

I love Palin’s (and maybe McCain’s) reverse psychology here, but if/when barack dumps Biden, that will NOT be part of the media narrative. Few people outside of conservative blogs will know she said it, and if barack gets asked about it, he’ll laugh and say, “Did she say that? I didn’t hear that. Well, she must have known Joe was gonna get sick. She’s psychic or somethin.’ Heh, heh, heh. I hope she can tell us he’s going to have a full recovery, too, cuz we all love Joe so much.” And people will lap it up.

Rational Thought on August 16, 2012 at 8:11 AM

Radford business owner declines request from Joe Biden’s entourage to stop in store

The owner of Crumb and Get It says he doesn’t agree with the Obama administration’s policies.

[snip]

Here’s the back story, we’re told that shortly after Crumb and Get It told Biden’s advance people ‘no’ — the secret service walked in and told Chris McMurray ”Thanks for standing up and saying ‘no’ — then they bought a whole bunch of cookies and cupcakes.

whoa!

Flora Duh on August 16, 2012 at 7:57 AM

I was talking to someone just yesterday about the books that are going to come out if barack loses re-election — books from someone in the Secret Service, the White House staff, finally hearing from people in his past, etc. It’s going to be brutal because the obamas are grifters, and grifters tend to be very nasty to the help. The spell has been broken, and people are going to feel free to FINALLY tell the truth about these people. Barack may be one of those few presidents whose image in the public’s mind declines over time as so many hidden truths are revealed rather than improves. It’s his worst nightmare. Infamy and ignominy, forever and ever.

Rational Thought on August 16, 2012 at 8:18 AM

Axlerod is stuttering his was through a long Morning Joe segment. Sorry you’re missing it, cms! The lies are tripping off his tongue.

Naturally Curly on August 16, 2012 at 8:23 AM

Today’s schedule

10:15AM THE PRESIDENT and THE VICE PRESIDENT receive the Presidential Daily Briefing

Oval Office

Closed Press

10:45AM THE PRESIDENT and THE VICE PRESIDENT meet with Secretary of State Clinton

Oval Office

Closed Press

12:30PM THE PRESIDENT and THE VICE PRESIDENT meet for lunch

Private Dining Room

Closed Press

Flora Duh on August 16, 2012 at 8:34 AM

Today’s schedule

10:15AM THE PRESIDENT and THE VICE PRESIDENT receive the Presidential Daily Briefing

Oval Office

Closed Press

10:45AM THE PRESIDENT and THE VICE PRESIDENT meet with Secretary of State Clinton

Oval Office

Closed Press

12:30PM THE PRESIDENT and THE VICE PRESIDENT meet for lunch

Private Dining Room

Closed Press

Flora Duh on August 16, 2012 at 8:34 AM

So they’re meeting with Shrillery to see if she’ll take the VP slot, then meeting alone to work out their cover story for Biden leaving the campaign. Great. Just great.

Rational Thought on August 16, 2012 at 8:41 AM

The only way Hillary should accept any deal is at the top of the ticket.

gracie on August 16, 2012 at 8:49 AM

Just like Obamacare guts the Medicare Advantage plans that many seniors have/had, Obama may be losing his own Medicare advantage once Ryan gets done in FL. Good.

totherightofthem on August 16, 2012 at 9:01 AM

So they’re meeting with Shrillery to see if she’ll take the VP slot, then meeting alone to work out their cover story for Biden leaving the campaign. Great. Just great.

Rational Thought on August 16, 2012 at 8:41 AM

Call me crazy, but I’ve been thinking that Biden’s gaffetastic campaign appearances have all been a set-up to provide an excuse to remove him from the ticket and put HC in. I wouldn’t put it past the O campaign to do just that.

totherightofthem on August 16, 2012 at 9:03 AM

Stop P&G.

WisRich on August 16, 2012 at 9:08 AM

thinking that Biden’s gaffetastic campaign appearances have all been a set-up

Nah…we don’t give people like Joe enough credit for just being genuinely stupid. Joe, however, probably also has a component of organic brain disese /dimentia which really does make him unfit for office. He should never have become VP in the 1st place.

gracie on August 16, 2012 at 9:11 AM

Just load it into the Teleprompter and Slow Joe will read it.

He wants his waffle afterward.

viking01 on August 16, 2012 at 9:23 AM

Today’s schedule

10:15AM THE PRESIDENT and THE VICE PRESIDENT receive the Presidential Daily Briefing

Oval Office

Closed Press

10:45AM THE PRESIDENT and THE VICE PRESIDENT meet with Secretary of State Clinton

Oval Office

Closed Press

12:30PM THE PRESIDENT and THE VICE PRESIDENT meet for lunch

Private Dining Room

Closed Press

Flora Duh on August 16, 2012 at 8:34 AM

So they’re meeting with Shrillery to see if she’ll take the VP slot, then meeting alone to work out their cover story for Biden leaving the campaign. Great. Just great.

Rational Thought on August 16, 2012 at 8:41 AM

Yep thanks Palin, Juan McCain and weekly standard. You have screwed America and nonRomney can’t beat that ticket. Hilliary will bring in big money and energize the people who weren’t going to vote.mgoodnightnAmerica we will leave the light on

Conservative4ev on August 16, 2012 at 9:23 AM

That’s gonna be some big bus coming round the corner to have Joie tossed under. He’s been out there racist pandering and trying to figure out which century and town he’s in, only to find out the next day his gig is up. Suweet! Bet the beer tent guy at the Iowa fair is sorry he didn’t tell Prezzy You Didn’t Build That no, thanks for showing up tho. This campaign is falling apart and doesn’t even know it.

Kissmygrits on August 16, 2012 at 9:24 AM

Yep thanks Palin, Juan McCain and weekly standard. You have screwed America and nonRomney can’t beat that ticket. Hilliary will bring in big money and energize the people who weren’t going to vote.mgoodnightnAmerica we will leave the light on

Conservative4ev on August 16, 2012 at 9:23 AM

R&R can beat any Team O ticket. It’s about Zero and the economy. Hillary does not pull any demographic O doesn’t already have. Hillary is a Ho to Bill and a Ho to Zero and that’s how she will go down in 2012 and history.

gracie on August 16, 2012 at 9:29 AM

My mistake, I had said well on our way to 700, should have said 600.

Bmore on August 16, 2012 at 9:31 AM

Yep thanks Palin, Juan McCain and weekly standard. You have screwed America and nonRomney can’t beat that ticket. Hilliary will bring in big money and energize the people who weren’t going to vote.mgoodnightnAmerica we will leave the light on

Conservative4ev on August 16, 2012 at 9:23 AM

R&R can beat any Team O ticket. It’s about Zero and the economy. Hillary does not pull any demographic O doesn’t already have. Hillary is a Ho to Bill and a Ho to Zero and that’s how she will go down in 2012 and history.

gracie on August 16, 2012 at 9:29 AM

I would agree with you if we had a fair press but the press will start that she is as smart as Ryan and they already setup the vp debate up for her

Conservative4ev on August 16, 2012 at 9:31 AM

Conservative4ev on August 16, 2012 at 9:31 AM

You should probably hold off until it really happens, that is a lot of good emotion going to waste.

Cindy Munford on August 16, 2012 at 9:37 AM

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