Poll: Is the youth vote slowly turning to Romney?

posted at 1:21 pm on August 15, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

Yesterday, I wondered whether the almost 17 percent youth unemployment rate would do anything to check the type of overwhelming support President Obama received from young people in 2008. Apparently, there’s ‘hope’ for us young people yet — Obama received a whopping 66 percent of the youth vote the first time around, and while he still has the lead over Romney, that level of support is slipping pretty drastically. From the Wash Examiner:

Pollster John Zogby of JZ Analytics told Secrets Tuesday that Romney received 41 percent in his weekend poll of 1,117 likely voters, for the first time crossing the 40 percent mark. What’s more, he said that Romney is the only Republican of those who competed in the primaries to score so high among 18-29 year olds.

“This is the first time I am seeing Romney’s numbers this high among 18-29 year olds,” said Zogby. “This could be trouble for Obama who needs every young voter he can get.” …

In his latest poll, Obama receives just 49 percent of the youth vote when pitted against Romney, who received 41 percent.

Yupp — it lookin’ more and more like the youths are increasingly disillusioned with the poor results of President Obama’s policies, and I can’t imagine that the Paul Ryan VP pick will do anything to deter young people. I’m sure Team Obama is going to try to entice the youth with more student-loan blather and demonize Romney/Ryan on that score, but right now the main discussion is all about convincing seniors they should be terrified of Ryan because of his Medicare plans — but to youths, that’s a reminder that we’re currently paying into a system that everyone agrees isn’t going to be solvent for us when we reach that age (Ryan is speaking at his alma mater, Miami University of Ohio, later this evening; I’ll be interested to see how he frames the student-loan and entitlement debates to a more youthful audience).

In that same vein, there’s another poll out this morning that speaks to all eligible voters’ lack of enthusiasm in this election: Even if they’re vague Obama-supporters, people just aren’t getting riled up about making it out to the polls.

A nationwide USA TODAY/Suffolk University Poll of people who are eligible to vote but aren’t likely to do so finds that these stay-at-home Americans back Obama’s re-election over Republican Mitt Romney by more than 2-1. Two-thirds of them say they are registered to vote. Eight in 10 say the government plays an important role in their lives. …

Even in 2008, when turnout was the highest in any presidential election since 1960, almost 80 million eligible citizens didn’t vote. Curtis Gans, director of the non-partisan Center for the Study of the American Electorate, predicts that number will rise significantly this year. He says turnout could ebb to levels similar to 2000, when only 54.2% of those eligible to vote cast a ballot. That was up a bit from 1996, which had the lowest turnout since 1924.

This year, perhaps 90 million Americans who could vote won’t. “The long-term trend tends to be awful,” Gans says. “There’s a lot of lack of trust in our leaders, a lack of positive feelings about political institutions, a lack of quality education for large segments of the public, a lack of civic education, the fragmenting effects of waves of communications technology, the cynicism of the coverage of politics — I could go on with a long litany.”


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Hmmmmmmm…….

aquaviva on August 15, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Time to unleash his stash of pandering to get votes from the young voters.

bayview on August 15, 2012 at 1:24 PM

Obama is old and tired looking with gray hair. Ryan is the new young hotness.

mitchellvii on August 15, 2012 at 1:24 PM

Slip slidin’ awayyyy *be bup* slip slidin’ awaaaayyayayay *be bup*…

Bishop on August 15, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Even if the kids stay home election day, it’s a win for us.

ardenenoch on August 15, 2012 at 1:26 PM

A nationwide USA TODAY/Suffolk University Poll of people who are eligible to vote but aren’t likely to do so finds that these stay-at-home Americans back Obama’s re-election over Republican Mitt Romney by more than 2-1. Two-thirds of them say they are registered to vote. Eight in 10 say the government plays an important role in their lives.

In other words, disenchanted Obama supporters won’t vote for a Republican, so they’ll just stay home instead. Fine by me. Romney still benefits from that. It’s no wonder Obama and the media are doing everything they can to depress GOP turnout.

Doughboy on August 15, 2012 at 1:26 PM

“Not only will I forgive all of your student debt, I will also throw in an XBox and a brand new Chevy Volt!!”

FORRRRWWWWAAAAAAAAARRRDDDDDDD!!!!!

BigWyo on August 15, 2012 at 1:26 PM

Edit of my comment on the Zogby poll thread:
It seems to me that younger voters will find that logic is on the side of them voting for R&R. Years down the road the entitlement state and especially Medicare is going to bankrupt this state, and seriously compromise their future medical care.
In contrast the youth could care about what the DJs think: http://hotair.com/archives/2012/08/14/important-new-campaign-endorsement-djs-for-obama/

This time, do the youth want what is cool but empty, or do they want to get behind substance and what is right for them and their country?

anotherJoe on August 15, 2012 at 1:27 PM

Moochelle will get nose piercing, dye her hair green and do the crip dance in her space oddity suit to show how with it she is with the young and hip voters.

bayview on August 15, 2012 at 1:27 PM

We will vote for Obamuh when he makes the bourgeoisie pay our student loans. Make the pigs pay!

- The Students [especially the Ivy League ones]

OhEssYouCowboys on August 15, 2012 at 1:27 PM

Obama is in deep deep trouble not only is he losing support in every demographic, but even those who support him aren’t coming out to vote. Dick Morris made an interesting comment the other day that Obama would lose big because Obama can only get a majority of those who won’t vote.

Ta111 on August 15, 2012 at 1:27 PM

I wonder how many of the youth are employed?

Easy to be excited when your sugar daddy starts handing out gifts.

acyl72 on August 15, 2012 at 1:29 PM

Unemployment will do that…

PA Guy on August 15, 2012 at 1:29 PM

Barry’s next fund raising effort directed at the young voters: Donate $3 for a chance to share some bongs and blow with the President in the Oval Office.

bayview on August 15, 2012 at 1:30 PM

the zombie-eyed dude is known to be stingy. obama on the other will forgive all your student loans.

hmmmm, which one wins?

renalin on August 15, 2012 at 1:30 PM

Ryan will put a good dent in the youth vote. Young people are vain, which is why they voted for Obama last time. Even if they don’t agree with Ryan on every issue, the fact that he’s young, handsome, confident and smart will win many of them over.

The Count on August 15, 2012 at 1:31 PM

You lost me at Zogby.

Dusty on August 15, 2012 at 1:31 PM

Yes it is. My girlfriend’s 25 year old daughter did not vote in 2008, but was happy Obama got elected because in her opinion, it was time for a black man to be president. She recently registered to vote and will be voting for Romney. Due to Obamanomics, her mom got laid off, was on unemployment for about three months, and finally found a job paying 50% of what she was previously making, and paying even less than she was receiving in unemployment benefits.

txsurveyor on August 15, 2012 at 1:31 PM

Alternate Headline: Romney Approval Rates Soar, Makes Obama Sore.

The Rogue Tomato on August 15, 2012 at 1:31 PM

…there would really have to be an out of control youth drug problem for the kids NOT to vote for Romney!
Mom’s basement would have black mold in the basement after 4 more years!

KOOLAID2 on August 15, 2012 at 1:32 PM

Moochelle will get nose piercing, dye her hair green and do the crip dance in her space oddity suit to show how with it she is with the young and hip voters.

bayview on August 15, 2012 at 1:27 PM

..one cannot possibly conjure up a more horrifying image. My sincere thanks for ruining the cold anchovy pizza I was going to have for breakfast.

The War Planner on August 15, 2012 at 1:33 PM

Hmmmmmmm…….

aquaviva on August 15, 2012 at 1:23 PM

http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/07/31/white-house-insider-how-mitt-romney-mentally-castrated-the-obama-campaign/

MontanaMmmm on August 15, 2012 at 1:33 PM

Romney/Ryan ”12

GW_SS-Delta on August 15, 2012 at 1:33 PM

High unemployment works in a socialist’s favor. When people are down and out, they look to government either to give them aid, or give them a job through some kind of government program. They don’t all of a sudden become a libertarian and think, gee I have to pull myself up by my bootstraps and hope some newly-freed businessman will hire me.

They may be disillusioned that obama didn’t produce better results, but the last thought they would ever have is that better results can be produced by LESS government.

I think Obama will lose, but not because young people have some epiphany about socialism. And certainly not because unemployed people have an epiphany about socialism. Don’t wait for that to happen.

keep the change on August 15, 2012 at 1:34 PM

Voting can be hazardous to your health…so all those who’d otherwise vote Obama, can stay home.

Varchild on August 15, 2012 at 1:35 PM

We stand with Obamuh! Because, well, um, I mean, um, I mean, “Freedom” means that it’s “free”! I mean. Um.

- The Students [especially the Ivy League ones]

OhEssYouCowboys on August 15, 2012 at 1:36 PM

Obama is going to let young people discharge student loans through bankruptcy using an executive order in 3, 2, 1…

milcus on August 15, 2012 at 1:36 PM

I’m waiting for the article connecting Ryan’s nerd appeal and the success of shows like The Big Bang Theory. Nerdy is the new cool.

Spannerhead on August 15, 2012 at 1:37 PM

In the summer of 2009, Rush wondered what would happen “when it stops being cool to like Obama.”
I’m pretty sure it stopped being cool by the end of that year, but, according to acolytes like gumbyandpokey, Obama’s just too popular and resistance is futile.

Right Mover on August 15, 2012 at 1:37 PM

i hope that the ‘youth’ retain enough intelligence that can figure out that they will be the ones in debt slavery (yes, chains)…paying off our debts

in a con game, you need a pigeon…and they are it

r keller on August 15, 2012 at 1:38 PM

You know what also helps R&R with the youth vote? Not having a senile VP running mate.

Dusty on August 15, 2012 at 1:39 PM

Kids don’t vote.

I should know, I’ve always been much more interested in politics than any of my peers, from high school on, but I voted for the first time at age 23.

A bit ashamed that I’m basically a statistic.

John_Locke on August 15, 2012 at 1:40 PM

From the Washington Examiner article:

In his latest poll, Obama receives just 49 percent of the youth vote when pitted against Romney, who received 41 percent. In another question, the independent candidacy of Gary Johnson is included, and here Obama wins 50 percent, Romney 38 percent and Johnson 5 percent.

But while taking Johnson out of the equation in the past has seen a surge in support for Obama, now the numbers for Romney–and undecideds–increase.

I know at least 2 HA commenters who will be crushed.

Flora Duh on August 15, 2012 at 1:40 PM

http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/07/31/white-house-insider-how-mitt-romney-mentally-castrated-the-obama-campaign/

MontanaMmmm on August 15, 2012 at 1:33 PM

..you realize, of course, that this was at the BEGINNING of July? But the interesting thing about this link is the description of Romney’s efforts at obtaining TRUE poll numbers, not the B.S. public D+9 skewed propaganda that we get fed.

It explains Romney’s “silence” in July and August: he was letting Obama punch himself out. He’s now grown a pair with the pick of Ryan and will be cycling up the Death Star in about two weeks with all that cash he’s been hording.

..oh, the agony!

The War Planner on August 15, 2012 at 1:40 PM

Most young people can’t figure in their heads but some math is so simple that even Obama could understand it – if he worked at it.

Basilsbest on August 15, 2012 at 1:43 PM

Just one more reason why Obama will drop Biden in an attempt to shake up this race.

It’s beyond desperation time and all the signs that Hillary will replace Biden are there.

They will announce the “change” (in which Biden will “voluntarily” step down for some manufactured reason”) right around the Republican Convention to dominate the news cycle.

Marcus Traianus on August 15, 2012 at 1:43 PM

Another indication is that on the Obama election website, it has now two boxes to check…one for campaign contribution, the other for retirement fund.

right2bright on August 15, 2012 at 1:44 PM

Kids don’t vote.

A bit ashamed that I’m basically a statistic.

John_Locke on August 15, 2012 at 1:40 PM

..but a decent one. However, the Zogby poll was likely voters:

Pollster John Zogby of JZ Analytics told Secrets Tuesday that Romney received 41 percent in his weekend poll of 1,117 likely voters, for the first time crossing the 40 percent mark. What’s more, he said that Romney is the only Republican of those who competed in the primaries to score so high among 18-29 year olds.

The War Planner on August 15, 2012 at 1:44 PM

Obama is going to let young people discharge student loans through bankruptcy using an executive order in 3, 2, 1…

milcus on August 15, 2012 at 1:36 PM

Fortunately, executive orders only extend to federal employees, not regular citizens. Hussein Ogabe can instruct his minions not to enforce an “inconvenient” law, but he cannot make a new one out of whole cloth.

Archivarix on August 15, 2012 at 1:46 PM

Marcus Traianus on August 15, 2012 at 1:43 PM

No matter the reason, everyone will laugh at the feeble attempt, plus they will have to answer “Palin was correct”, and that Rudy was right, so why did he choose Biden in the first place, and…with all the other gaffes and mistakes, this is just another one of many.

I am gleeful that Rudy and Palin stepped in and put the heat on Biden…this is some election campaign, my how the tables have turned.

right2bright on August 15, 2012 at 1:47 PM

finally found a job paying 50% of what she was previously making, and paying even less than she was receiving in unemployment benefits.

txsurveyor on August 15, 2012 at 1:31 PM

…that is one of the reasons most people ride out the maximum length of benefits…and want it longer

KOOLAID2 on August 15, 2012 at 1:48 PM

This year, perhaps 90 million Americans who could vote won’t. “The long-term trend tends to be awful,” Gans says. “There’s a lot of lack of trust in our leaders, a lack of positive feelings about political institutions, a lack of quality education for large segments of the public, a lack of civic education, the fragmenting effects of waves of communications technology, the cynicism of the coverage of politics — I could go on with a long litany.”

@lennycurry

Hey demagogues,your ripping FL voting laws=garbage. Early & absentee voting is over 1 million. Up over 350k than in 2008. #facts #Sayfie

For those who are not familiar with Lenny Curry, he is the Chairman of the Republican Party of Florida.

Flora Duh on August 15, 2012 at 1:48 PM

Obama is old and tired looking with gray hair. Ryan is the new young hotness.

mitchellvii on August 15, 2012 at 1:24 PM

I always thought Barky’s gray hair came from a bottle, to give him a little gravitas.

That said, Axelrod has probably pulled NASA back from muslim outreach duty, and retasked them with developing a hair day the appears gray to middle-aged single white women and Jews, but is invisible to “young people”.

bofh on August 15, 2012 at 1:48 PM

I’m sure Team Obama is going to try to entice the youth with more [candy]…

Don’t get in that car. O’s car is going down the road to a bankrupted oblivion where govt run medical care is expensive and horrible. The youth may not care about that much now, but they need to think now… think twice before voting again for O.

anotherJoe on August 15, 2012 at 1:48 PM

Just one more reason why Obama will drop Biden in an attempt to shake up this race.

It’s beyond desperation time and all the signs that Hillary will replace Biden are there.

Marcus Traianus on August 15, 2012 at 1:43 PM

..that concept is rapidly approaching it’s “sell by” date. The closer we get to the Dem fiasco in NC, the more this will be seen as the sign of a desperate campaign — especially after that world-class Danville foot insertion yesterday.

Perhaps they could re-animate Ray Charles to do a rendition of “Unchain my Heart” as an opening number in NC.

The War Planner on August 15, 2012 at 1:48 PM

Desperado in Axelturd land?

Schadenfreude on August 15, 2012 at 1:49 PM

Just one more reason why Obama will drop Biden in an attempt to shake up this race.

It’s beyond desperation time and all the signs that Hillary will replace Biden are there.

They will announce the “change” (in which Biden will “voluntarily” step down for some manufactured reason”) right around the Republican Convention to dominate the news cycle.

Marcus Traianus on August 15, 2012 at 1:43 PM

I’m starting to believe that more and more, which is why suggestions from our side that he do so are decidedly not helpful.

changer1701 on August 15, 2012 at 1:49 PM

Look for all college loan debt to be forgiven next week.

Washington Nearsider on August 15, 2012 at 1:50 PM

Well, Obama is on the phone as we speak…

The CHOOM GANG is ready to roll!! Time to get those kiddies
their fix!

ToddPA on August 15, 2012 at 1:50 PM

A nationwide USA TODAY/Suffolk University Poll of people who are eligible to vote but aren’t likely to do so finds that these stay-at-home Americans back Obama’s re-election over Republican Mitt Romney by more than 2-1. Two-thirds of them say they are registered to vote.

Oh I am sure they will get their votes counted. The Democrats will figure out a way they can vote by proxy. After all they really really wanted to and it’s the intention that counts, right?

tims472 on August 15, 2012 at 1:51 PM

…that is one of the reasons most people ride out the maximum length of benefits…and want it longer

KOOLAID2 on August 15, 2012 at 1:48 PM

I was proud of her for taking the high road. It would have been financially easier to stay on unemployment, but she would rather be working than cashing a check from the government.

txsurveyor on August 15, 2012 at 1:52 PM

I think the momentum is shifting away from Obama on all fronts. That is what has them scared. That is why the HA trolls dismiss every single poll as meaningless.

I’m sure it will be a topic in the next day or so if not today but the talk of dumping Biden comes with its own interesting dynamic if part of the reasoning is to attract the younger hipper crowd that was so essential to Obama in 2008. Biden isn’t the guy to recapture the youth vote but neither is Hillary. I cannot think of a single “young” Democrat that would help in this regard. Just who are the up-and-comers who would energize the ticket?

Happy Nomad on August 15, 2012 at 1:53 PM

Yesterday Obama was telling dog jokes on the stump and Biden, in front of a heavily populated African American audience, entoned demagoguary at Romney in verbal blackface.

Obama is no longer running a campaign, Obama is running a minstrel show.

sheryl on August 15, 2012 at 1:53 PM

Desperado in Axelturd land?

Schadenfreude on August 15, 2012 at 1:49 PM

..ausgezeichnet, meine freund!

The War Planner on August 15, 2012 at 1:54 PM

*facepalm*

In a speech today in Virginia, Vice President Joe Biden seemed to forget we’re in the 21st century:

“Folks, where’s it written we cannot lead the world in the 20th century in making automobiles?,” said Biden. Video

Flora Duh on August 15, 2012 at 1:55 PM

Paying off student loans with welfare checks isn’t good enough for them?

Ingrates.

NoDonkey on August 15, 2012 at 1:55 PM

Yesterday Obama was telling dog jokes on the stump and Biden, in front of a heavily populated African American audience, entoned demagoguary at Romney in verbal blackface.

Obama is no longer running a campaign, Obama is running a minstrel show.

sheryl on August 15, 2012 at 1:53 PM

Another Biden gaffe today.

aquaviva on August 15, 2012 at 1:56 PM

Just who are the up-and-comers who would energize the ticket?

Happy Nomad on August 15, 2012 at 1:53 PM

Not so much an up-and-comer, but Evan Bayh wouldn’t be a bad choice. Bring him out of retirement to save the ticket and smooth the political discord?

Washington Nearsider on August 15, 2012 at 1:56 PM

Against individualism, the Obama conception is for the State; and it is for the individual only in so far as he coincides with the State. Obama conceives of the State as an absolute, in comparison with which all individuals or groups are relative, only to be conceived in their relation to the State. The Obama conception of the State is all-embracing; outside of it no human or spiritual values can exist, much less have value.

VorDaj on August 15, 2012 at 1:56 PM

Oops let me repeat with the proper spelling!

Yesterday Obama was telling dog jokes on the stump and Biden, in front of a heavily populated African American audience, intoned demagoguery at Romney in verbal blackface.

Obama is no longer running a campaign; Obama is running a minstrel show.

sheryl on August 15, 2012 at 1:57 PM

Biden isn’t the guy to recapture the youth vote but neither is Hillary. I cannot think of a single “young” Democrat that would help in this regard.
..
Happy Nomad on August 15, 2012 at 1:53 PM

..but..but..but.. how are we to believe you? A troll in an earlier post said you were not happy.

:-D

The War Planner on August 15, 2012 at 1:58 PM

One November day that now seems so long ago
When I was not so smart you know
A smooth talking man came before me
And spoke of all the things he would do for the country
He would chase away all the blue
It seemed like he knew just what to do
He would heal all the wounds
And give us all silver spoons
It seemed like such a dream
I never even suspected it was all just a scheme
“Come vote for me!” he said with such a smile
“Just get high on my hope and change for a while”
But now I understand
Now, now, now I understand
He’s nothing put a lying destructo con man

Cheshire Cat on August 15, 2012 at 1:59 PM

MontanaMmmm on August 15, 2012 at 1:33 PM

I always enjoy reading that site but am still unable to convince myself the insider actually exists. Guess that’s part of the thrill and the draw.

a capella on August 15, 2012 at 1:59 PM

Biden isn’t the guy to recapture the youth vote but neither is Hillary. I cannot think of a single “young” Democrat that would help in this regard.

Happy Nomad on August 15, 2012 at 1:53 PM

Cory Booker is quite popular and has some national-scale aspirations. He might be a Democrat but he’s a far cry from Obama.

Archivarix on August 15, 2012 at 2:00 PM

MSM goes in the tank for Obama again.

Allow me to caption this one FOR them:

But…. I’m the Light Bringer! Wait.. don’t go… next I was going to do shadow animals on the walls!

thatsafactjack on August 15, 2012 at 2:00 PM

Another Biden gaffe today.

aquaviva on August 15, 2012 at 1:56 PM

OMG….. the hits just keep coming. At this rate the campaign will have to hire a translator for him because he’ll be speaking in tongues.

Cody1991 on August 15, 2012 at 2:00 PM

*facepalm*

In a speech today in Virginia, Vice President Joe Biden seemed to forget we’re in the 21st century:

“Folks, where’s it written we cannot lead the world in the 20th century in making automobiles?,” said Biden. Video

Flora Duh on August 15, 2012 at 1:55 PM

With each passing day a Hillary swap is more and more likely. Either that, or they’re going to have to lock him in an attic somewhere until November.

changer1701 on August 15, 2012 at 2:00 PM

I’m starting to believe that more and more, which is why suggestions from our side that he do so are decidedly not helpful.

changer1701 on August 15, 2012 at 1:49 PM

I disagree slightly. This is internal stuff that would throw the Dems off their campaign plans. Romney and Ryan can keep on campaigning while there is the Dems keep getting off message with questions about Biden’s future on the ticket.

The way I see it, there will be a few signs.

1. Confirmation from the Obama campaign that Biden is their guy.

2. A sudden lack of appearances by Biden on behalf of the campaign.

3. A sudden emergence of Hillary Clinton (or whomever they opt to nominate) in the national spotlight.

4. Slow Joe announcing that he won’t run for a second term.

5. Open path for the new individual, presumably with excitement among the party faithful.

Of course, I have doubts any of this would work but I’m perfectly happy if the lying whore Stephanie Cutter and all the rest have the oxygen sucked out of the campaign by rampant speculation for the next couple of weeks. I also have doubts that slow Joe is all that willing to have the nomination wrested out of his hands since he thinks he is already the presumptive nominee for 2016.

Happy Nomad on August 15, 2012 at 2:01 PM

Even the yutes must look back fondly to four years ago and say, “My Gawd, what has happened to this country? I used to have prospects. I used to have dreams. Now alls I can look forward to are food stamdps, a government-issue cell phone and the Department of Education SWAT team battering down my door when I default on my TENS of thousands of dollars in unsustainable student loans.”

curved space on August 15, 2012 at 2:02 PM

Obama is old and tired looking with gray hair. Ryan is the new young hotness.mitchellvii on August 15, 2012 at 1:24 PM

Although I suspect you are being glib, you are still on to something. Young single women (and some married and older women) will be swayed by teh hotness.

iurockhead on August 15, 2012 at 2:02 PM

Another Biden gaffe today.

aquaviva on August 15, 2012 at 1:56 PM

While that may increase the pressure to drop Biden, it does not follow that Hillary will accept a VP slot. It depends on the calculation that Bill and Hillary will do to assess whether Barry’s second term will be as disastrous as the first. If the second term is just as bad, Hillary will see her chance in 2016 gone, especially if she is the VP.

bayview on August 15, 2012 at 2:02 PM

“Folks, where’s it written we cannot lead the world in the 20th century in making automobiles?,” said Biden. Video

Flora Duh on August 15, 2012 at 1:55 PM

outta touch.

outta time.

He’s yours Obama. Dance with the idiot that you came with.

ted c on August 15, 2012 at 2:04 PM

“Folks, where’s it written we cannot lead the world in the 20th century in making automobiles?,” said Biden. Video

Flora Duh on August 15, 2012 at 1:55 PM

Virginia has not been kind to slow Joe. And he seems to forget that Clinton ran for reelection on the line that he wanted to be the bridge to the 21st century as if the new millenium wasn’t going to get there without him or something.

Happy Nomad on August 15, 2012 at 2:04 PM

With Ryan on the ticket it is possible for Romney-Ryan to get 40% of the youth vote… However what is important this year is that the young people will be voting in less numbers than 2008, I estimate 5 millions less young people (18-29) to vote in 2012 compared to 2008. This means a huge trouble for Obama because even if Obama gets the same percentage of the youth vote as in 2008 he will still lose millions of the youth vote compared to 2008…

mnjg on August 15, 2012 at 2:05 PM

Obama could replace Biden with Hillary but that still isn’t going to help him.

Hillary’s time has passed for one. Plus Ryan would rout her in a debate anyway.

Romney in his infinite wisdom picked a person who represents the future. Romney’s ideas, policies, his VP pick all represent the future of this country.

Obama is going to lose and it looks like he’s going to make sure he loses ugly…..sad.

sheryl on August 15, 2012 at 2:07 PM

While that may increase the pressure to drop Biden, it does not follow that Hillary will accept a VP slot. It depends on the calculation that Bill and Hillary will do to assess whether Barry’s second term will be as disastrous as the first. If the second term is just as bad, Hillary will see her chance in 2016 gone, especially if she is the VP.

bayview on August 15, 2012 at 2:02 PM

True. There’s another aspect to this that someone commented on earlier, and that’s VJ and MO. They love having influence over BO, and I can’t imagine that they want Hill around.

Interesting article from yesterday:

Obama’s Strange Dependence on Valerie Jarrett

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/08/obamas_strange_dependence_on_valerie_jarrett.html

Most of us know this, but it’s still creepy and infuriating.

Cody1991 on August 15, 2012 at 2:08 PM

Even the yutes must look back fondly to four years ago and say, “My Gawd, what has happened to this country? I used to have prospects. I used to have dreams. Now alls I can look forward to are food stamdps, a government-issue cell phone and the Department of Education SWAT team battering down my door when I default on my TENS of thousands of dollars in unsustainable student loans.”

curved space on August 15, 2012 at 2:02 PM

..been done artfully.

(Hey! Wassamattayou? If RWM can get away with this, so can I.)

The War Planner on August 15, 2012 at 2:08 PM

Cory Booker is quite popular and has some national-scale aspirations. He might be a Democrat but he’s a far cry from Obama.

Archivarix on August 15, 2012 at 2:00 PM

He’s also absolutely inexperienced. If running for national office with just a governorship is supposedly so bad, a guy who has never held elective office out of Newark is far worse. Keep in mind he is very bright (which would highlight Obama’s dumbness) and I think will be a star of the party but I put him in the same catagory as Marco Rubio as an individual who is not yet ready for such a high office.

Happy Nomad on August 15, 2012 at 2:09 PM

…it looks like he’s going to make sure he loses ugly…

sheryl on August 15, 2012 at 2:07 PM

Who said anything about him leaving Michelle? :)

tims472 on August 15, 2012 at 2:09 PM

Not so much an up-and-comer, but Evan Bayh wouldn’t be a bad choice. Bring him out of retirement to save the ticket and smooth the political discord?

Washington Nearsider on August 15, 2012 at 1:56 PM

And they thought Romney was going to find a boring white guy! ;0

It wouldn’t be a bad choice from the political (i.e. getting reelected) standpoint but I’m not sure a centrist like Bayh could generate support among the special interest groups that think Obama unchained (I used that word intentionally) by reelection would be happy with a such a safe choice.

Happy Nomad on August 15, 2012 at 2:13 PM

The way I see it, there will be a few signs.

1. Confirmation from the Obama campaign that Biden is their guy.

2. A sudden lack of appearances by Biden on behalf of the campaign.

3. A sudden emergence of Hillary Clinton (or whomever they opt to nominate) in the national spotlight.

4. Slow Joe announcing that he won’t run for a second term.

5. Open path for the new individual, presumably with excitement among the party faithful.

Of course, I have doubts any of this would work but I’m perfectly happy if the lying whore Stephanie Cutter and all the rest have the oxygen sucked out of the campaign by rampant speculation for the next couple of weeks. I also have doubts that slow Joe is all that willing to have the nomination wrested out of his hands since he thinks he is already the presumptive nominee for 2016.

Happy Nomad on August 15, 2012 at 2:01 PM

You’re probably right…guess it depends on what polling says over the next couple of weeks.

changer1701 on August 15, 2012 at 2:16 PM

Cory Booker is quite popular and has some national-scale aspirations. He might be a Democrat but he’s a far cry from Obama.

Archivarix on August 15, 2012 at 2:00 PM

Booker would help the Romney ticket. Cory’s defense of Bain Capital, before the hostage tape, was one of Mitt’s strongest defenders.

I mean what would be Obama’s slogan…’hey America still suffering from liberal white guilt, why not vote for two black men then?’

All I can say to Obama is keeping telling dog jokes you’re going to need the practice for your next career on the late night talk show circuit.

sheryl on August 15, 2012 at 2:16 PM

Interesting article from yesterday:

Obama’s Strange Dependence on Valerie Jarrett

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/08/obamas_strange_dependence_on_valerie_jarrett.html

Most of us know this, but it’s still creepy and infuriating.

Cody1991 on August 15, 2012 at 2:08 PM

Read that late last night. It’s a fascinating article. The one on “Envy” in the link in that article also. It’s a pitch perfect psycho-analytical description of the core of Obama’s behavior and the root of his envy fetish….

aquaviva on August 15, 2012 at 2:17 PM

Cory Booker is quite popular and has some national-scale aspirations. He might be a Democrat but he’s a far cry from Obama.

Archivarix on August 15, 2012 at 2:00 PM

He’s also absolutely inexperienced. If running for national office with just a governorship is supposedly so bad, a guy who has never held elective office out of Newark is far worse. Keep in mind he is very bright (which would highlight Obama’s dumbness) and I think will be a star of the party but I put him in the same catagory as Marco Rubio as an individual who is not yet ready for such a high office.

Happy Nomad on August 15, 2012 at 2:09 PM

Compared to Hussein Ogabe, Cory Booker wins in every nomination that counts with all voter segments except maybe the academia. It’s pretty much a given that he will either run for Governor in 2013 or Senator in 2014. From there, considering a severe shortage of young stars among the donks, it’s a very short road to the national ticket. I also saw on Drudge that Chelsea Clinton considers to run while her almighty parents are still kickin’.

Archivarix on August 15, 2012 at 2:18 PM

My son — the youngest of the brood — and his gaggle of closest friends were raving supporters of Barack Hussein Obama in 2008. They were also too young to vote in the 2008 election (and 2010).

Now all of them are all growed up and ready and able to vote in the 2012 election — and they’re all in Romney/Ryan’s corner. As my son basically put it, ‘You were right Dad (shock and awe!). Obama’s just an opportunistic phoney-baloney who’ll say and do anything he has to just to get elected and stay in power. He doesn’t care about doing the right thing and he doesn’t make the tough choices because his office and government matters more than the people of America do. He hasn’t done a dang thing other than what serves him and his ilk. He’s beating the whole country up real good — and now I hope he gets his due real good (my son loathes bullies to the max). He fooled all of us.’ Well — you’re right son — but he didn’t fool all of us :)

It brings a tear of joy to my eye to watch my son (and his most excellent friends) grow up and see what what an intelligent man, concerned citizen, and patriotic American he has become. Even his bleeding-heart liberal high school sweetheart has nearly come full circle. She still holds out hope beyond hope that Barack Hussein Obama will fulfill even a small portion of his promises in a second term if he’s reelected — but she’s slowly starting to lose her grip on that hope in exchange for the dawning realization that Barack Hussein Obama truly is a ravenous wolf in sheep’s clothing. She’s a lovely, loving, respectful, and intelligent woman — and she’s also the type that just hates to admit when she’s wrong — but she’s mellowing. Ha.

FlatFoot on August 15, 2012 at 2:18 PM

Yeah, but how many of them are Mormons …….

/sarc

tom on August 15, 2012 at 2:20 PM

Happy Nomad on August 15, 2012 at 2:09 PM

Archivarix on August 15, 2012 at 2:18 PM (cont.)

But if you mean this ticket, then you are correct. There is not a single donk under 50 worthy of taking the VP slot.

Archivarix on August 15, 2012 at 2:21 PM

Maybe the Yoots are waking up……….on dad’s couch again. Just like I did when I first voted….for Ronald Reagan.

flstc on August 15, 2012 at 2:22 PM

The one on “Envy” in the link in that article also. It’s a pitch perfect psycho-analytical description of the core of Obama’s behavior and the root of his envy fetish….

aquaviva on August 15, 2012 at 2:17 PM

Yes, indeed. It’s alarming that he was elected, that we have someone so inept and clearly unsuitable in such a powerful position.

Cody1991 on August 15, 2012 at 2:24 PM

MontanaMmmm on August 15, 2012 at 1:33 PM

I always enjoy reading that site but am still unable to convince myself the insider actually exists. Guess that’s part of the thrill and the draw.

a capella on August 15, 2012 at 1:59 PM

It helps if you imagine it all being said with a strong Louisiana accent…

equanimous on August 15, 2012 at 2:25 PM

According to the Weekly Standard, BO has until September 6th to dump Biden:

President Barack Obama has slightly more than 22 days to drop Vice Presidential Joe Biden from the 2012 Democratic presidential ticket, according to lawyers familiar with the party nominating process. That is, Democrats have until September 6 to formally nominate their presidential ticket which will then be qualified for the 50 state ballots.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-has-22-days-drop-biden_650014.html

Cody1991 on August 15, 2012 at 2:31 PM

Perhaps the youth of America, in spite of the horrifying liberal indoctrination that is the education system since the late 60′s, isn’t as brain mummified as I thought.

Maybe there is hope for them. There is no hope for the cinderblock brained older liberals though. Can’t wait for them to get old and stand before ocommie’s death panels if that does become the way of healthcare. They voted for it, they deserve it.

Wolfmoon on August 15, 2012 at 2:33 PM

Cody1991 on August 15, 2012 at 2:31 PM

He wont dump biden. It would make ocommie look panicked and desperate. That doesn’t exactly turn on even liberal voters. If he has buyers remorse now, perhaps he should have taken his head from his butt and thought hard about it in 2008. It’s far beyond too late for that now, not that I care, I just want the commie basterd back in chicago, california, new york, anywhere we can shove all the liberals together where they can go critical mass and evaporate.

Wolfmoon on August 15, 2012 at 2:35 PM

A nationwide USA TODAY/Suffolk University Poll of people who are eligible to vote but aren’t likely to do so finds that these stay-at-home Americans back Obama’s re-election over Republican Mitt Romney by more than 2-1. Two-thirds of them say they are registered to vote. Eight in 10 say the government plays an important role in their lives. …

We are fortunate that a lot of parasites living on the producers expense are not voting…

mnjg on August 15, 2012 at 2:37 PM

http://www.dailygazette.com/news/2012/aug/15/0815_union/

Union student delivers for Romney campaign.

The Romney campaign in Boston is run by young people, college age interns, I know you get scared, but it is a refreshing sight. Depending on where kids are in college the environment is more or less hostile to being an Obamabot. When other kids come out of the closet for Romney it breaks the ice and the kids can talk about it.

They don’t want to be like their loser big sisters and brothers who are 24 and hanging at home with mom. Vote for independence, freedom.

Fleuries on August 15, 2012 at 2:42 PM

Wolfmoon on August 15, 2012 at 2:35 PM

Yeah, I don’t see it happening. Who would watch to risk their political future with an administration that is such an epic failure?

Cody1991 on August 15, 2012 at 2:43 PM

Go ahead and sit out the vote, kids. The less stupid people that vote, the better.

rayra on August 15, 2012 at 2:43 PM

No worries. The dead vote, along with the animal vote, will more than overcome the decline in the young people vote for Obama.

milcus on August 15, 2012 at 2:58 PM

“There’s a lot of lack of trust in our leaders, a lack of positive feelings about political institutions, a lack of quality education for large segments of the public, a lack of civic education, the fragmenting effects of waves of communications technology, the cynicism of the coverage of politics — I could go on with a long litany.”

Yadda yadda yadda. People need to educate themselves. It’s not something you can trust to someone else.

Unless you’re a liberal. Empty heads make great echo chambers.

GarandFan on August 15, 2012 at 3:18 PM

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