Rasmussen: Ohio likely voters favorable toward Ryan, 51/39

posted at 12:01 pm on August 14, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

The immediate conventional wisdom from the media in the wake of Mitt Romney’s selection of Paul Ryan as running mate was that Ryan might make Wisconsin more competitive, but would cost Romney in Ohio and Florida.  Rasmussen polled likely voters in Ohio for their initial impression of Paul Ryan and his impact on the ticket, and found that Ryan doesn’t do any damage to Romney — and may boost his chances of retaking this key state for the GOP:

Early reactions to Mitt Romney’s new running mate are modestly positive in Ohio.

Fifty-one percent (51%) have a favorable opinion of the GOP’s Vice Presidential running mate. A new Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Voters in Ohio finds that 39% have an unfavorable view. Those figures include 33% with a Very Favorable opinion and 24% with a Very Unfavorable view.  (To see survey question wording, click here.)

Forty percent (40%) say they’re now more likely to vote for Mitt Romney and 32% are less likely to do so. Among unaffiliated voters, 42% are now more likely to vote for Romney, and 18% are less likely.

However, prior to his introduction by Romney on Saturday, Ryan was relatively unknown. As a result, these numbers could shift significantly in coming weeks.

That’s a fair warning.  The race is on to “define” Paul Ryan, but so far, the Romney team seems to be ahead.  After all, only 10% of the respondents in this poll were not familiar enough with Ryan to have an opinion on him, and only 29% were unsure whether this was the right choice for the ticket.  Among those most unsure in critical demos didn’t have unfamiliarity to blame for their hesitancy:

  • Women: 36% unsure whether Ryan is the right choice, but only 13% were not familiar enough to form an opinion of Ryan
  • Seniors: 30% unsure, only 8% unfamiliar
  • Democrats: 36% unsure, 8% unfamiliar
  • Independents: 35% unsure, 17% unfamiliar

The favorability of Ryan among these groups is either good or virtually even, except of course for Democrats (15/76), although 19% of those think Ryan was the right choice for Romney.  Ryan’s at a -2 among women (47/49), but a +19 among independents, with 50% already having a favorable opinion, and 33% having a “very favorable” opinion of the new #2. Once again, as in Rasmussen’s national poll in July, Ohio seniors give Ryan his most favorable demographic rating other than Republicans, with 54% favorable against only 38% negative, and 36% of seniors rating him “very favorable.”

How will that impact these demographics?  In all but the Democrats, Ryan makes voters more likely to support the ticket.  That’s even true with women, albeit narrowly at 35/30, so the initial “women should be frightened of Ryan” hasn’t exactly succeeded yet, at least not in this battleground state.  Independents are more likely to support the ticket with Ryan than not by a +24, 42/18, which even outpaces seniors’ +15 at 46/31.

We still have plenty of time for Democrats to demonize Ryan, but their initial efforts seem to have fallen short.  Ryan’s off to a good first impression in Ohio, and the numbers indicate he’s making it harder for Barack Obama in the Buckeye State rather than easier.

 


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Great, I was optimistic Ryan would help us in Ohio too.

the new aesthetic on August 14, 2012 at 12:03 PM

Yeah that Ryan…what a drag on the ticket…

PatriotRider on August 14, 2012 at 12:05 PM

Could someone please direct me to where the FAcebook commenting policy is discussed.

I’ve searched (in headlines) but couldn’t find.

Still confused. Please help.

aquaviva on August 14, 2012 at 12:05 PM

The Democrats just aren’t lying hard enough.

forest on August 14, 2012 at 12:05 PM

The favorability will skyrocket after everyone watches Ryan shred poor Biden on the debate stage.

Bishop on August 14, 2012 at 12:06 PM

GO OHIO state!

KOOLAID2 on August 14, 2012 at 12:06 PM

Pretty good for a guy who pushes old ladies in wheel chairs off a cliff…

PatriotRider on August 14, 2012 at 12:06 PM

Again, I fear that Ryan’s numbers, while just fine now, will be trash by November due to the lying MSM. That would have happened with anyone, so it’s not a knock on Ryan. That’s just how these things go.

Palin was in the 80s for approval rating with Alaskans when McCain initially picked her and we all know how that went.

Just have to make plainly clear, again and again and again and again, nothing will change in your coverage if you are 55 or older. Hammer that home and they should still be able to win.

RedNewEnglander on August 14, 2012 at 12:07 PM

Not bad for a guy who wants to ‘put y’all back into chains”…

PatriotRider on August 14, 2012 at 12:07 PM

Could someone please direct me to where the FAcebook commenting policy is discussed.

I’ve searched (in headlines) but couldn’t find.

Still confused. Please help.

aquaviva on August 14, 2012 at 12:05 PM

Click on any of the Headlines comment sections & look for a note between the headline & the comments. It’s under the “Blowback” heading.

22044 on August 14, 2012 at 12:08 PM

The favorability will skyrocket after everyone watches Ryan shred poor Biden on the debate stage.

Bishop on August 14, 2012 at 12:06 PM

…not with the moderating beyoutch asking nothing but foriegn policy questions and wondering if Ryan is carrying a condom in his pants pocket!

KOOLAID2 on August 14, 2012 at 12:08 PM

The favorability will skyrocket after everyone watches Ryan shred poor Biden on the debate stage.

Bishop on August 14, 2012 at 12:06 PM

ROTFLMAO… Funny you should mention that…

SWalker on August 14, 2012 at 12:08 PM

How can they demonize him without lying their asses off(which of course they’re doing)? Granted, they did that with Palin in 2008 and got away with it for the most part, but Ryan is far more adept at dealing with the Dems’ BS and he has a much more established reputation and record that will be hard to spin or mislead about.

The danger for the Dems is that if you keep spreading blatant lies and mistruths about Ryan, even members of the media are gonna start to call you out since they don’t wanna be perceived as complicit in that smear campaign. That’s why you have even Wolf Blitzer now responding to Bill Burton and Debbie What-a-dumb Schmuck with incredulity.

Doughboy on August 14, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Not bad for a guy who wants to ‘put y’all back into chains”…

PatriotRider on August 14, 2012 at 12:07 PM

Holy cow. Even Bite-me is losing what little mind he has left.

The mere presence of Paul Ryan in this race has pushed them over the edge. They’re losing it and an media can’t save them.

forest on August 14, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Anyone who believes anything a Democrat politician says is a complete idiot.

So we can cede the Complete-Idiot-Community to the Democrats.

If there aren’t enough Americans with brains around to vote this idiot Obama out of office, we’re all hosed anyway.

NoDonkey on August 14, 2012 at 12:09 PM

However, prior to his introduction by Romney on Saturday, Ryan was relatively unknown. As a result, these numbers could shift significantly in coming weeks.

I know we’re political junkies here but Ryan “relatively unknown”?

Thats doesn’t ring true to me although I am from WI so my prespective is a little skewed. But even the Rasmuseen data refutes that assumption.

After all, only 10% of the respondents in this poll were not familiar enough with Ryan to have an opinion on him

People know him. They like him. The Dem’s attempt to redfine him will fall short.

WisRich on August 14, 2012 at 12:10 PM

The favorability will skyrocket after everyone watches Ryan shred poor Biden on the debate stage.

Bishop on August 14, 2012 at 12:06 PM

Who’s going to be the moderator for that debate, Mrs. Biden or Mrs. Obama?

NoDonkey on August 14, 2012 at 12:11 PM

It’s going to take a little longer for the attacks to saturate, since these political geniuses just invested the last couple weeks accusing Romney of being a felon and a murderer.

stldave on August 14, 2012 at 12:11 PM

This isn’t even a week since Mitt announced Ryan, so the numbers can really go up for Mitt/Ryan, IMO!

I bet bho/team are having a cow with this news and the huge number of people at events for Mitt/Ryan?
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letget on August 14, 2012 at 12:11 PM

According the the Daily Ticker Marxist, Ryan is stuck back in the 80′s…imagine that…

PatriotRider on August 14, 2012 at 12:11 PM

The mere presence of Paul Ryan in this race has pushed them over the edge. They’re losing it and an media can’t save them.

forest on August 14, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Dear Merciful God in heaven, when the Obamanation goons loose it, please force them to drag the Fifth Column Treasonous Media off into the abyss with them…

SWalker on August 14, 2012 at 12:11 PM

This is too preliminary, premature, imo, as Ryan and his medicare plan hasn’t been yet exposed to the big Mediscare Dem guns.
I really like Pat Buchanan and Pat is usually right about almost everything, but he suggests that we try to change the subject from medicare (and Obamacare can be linked to it), Pat says R&R should “get their answer down pat, then move on.”
No, we have to engage immediately in an intensive effort, in ads and via surrogates, to defend the R&Ryan medicare plan. We can’t change the subject as Pat wants us to do, because the Dems and the lib MSM will bring it back; NO, we have to face it down, to defeat the enemy in the public’s eyes, or we will be defeated ourselves.
It’s kill or be killed on Medicare, I’m afraid. Use this outstanding 4 minute video by Ryan as the basis for ads, and promote this video like crazy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJIC7kEq6kw&info=RyanMedicare

anotherJoe on August 14, 2012 at 12:12 PM

ObamaHood?……the Medicare thief?….. Behind in any state?……

Can’t be.

Ryan is the destroyer of all lives of Seniors…..right?

PappyD61 on August 14, 2012 at 12:12 PM

Palin was in the 80s for approval rating with Alaskans when McCain initially picked her and we all know how that went.

RedNewEnglander on August 14, 2012 at 12:07 PM

McCain rose in the polls until he decided to “suspend” his campaign and look like the fool at the table?

LoganSix on August 14, 2012 at 12:12 PM

I believe Ryan has the ability and the seeds to push back against whatever rabid leftist is moderating the debates, he will find a way to talk about the salient points.

Bishop on August 14, 2012 at 12:14 PM

great news on ohio! but no bump yet for romneys national numbers, he is still at 47 and obama 44, same as yesterday.

Jack_Burton on August 14, 2012 at 12:14 PM

Just wait till they learn that Ryan wants to set seniors on fire or whatever. /

Seriously, though, I think it’ll be difficult to ‘Palinize’ Ryan. He’s more well-known, he’s been appearing on national media for awhile, and he just doesn’t look like someone wanting to push grandman off a cliff. As he said, his Mom is a FL senior, so why would he want to hurt them?

changer1701 on August 14, 2012 at 12:14 PM

I’m still worried. Does Ryan have a dog or a horse?

TarheelBen on August 14, 2012 at 12:15 PM

That’s the sound of a meme going SPLAT! However!!! Romney and Ryan need to define this issue from now until Nov. In every speech in every interview, talk about MC/MC. If the host doesn’t bring it up, YOU bring it up. Make the discussion about how your reforms will save MC/MC and that Obama’s policies have already robbed it by 700 billion. Talk about it so much that the dems want to change the subject. Don’t rest on your heels R&R

Weight of Glory on August 14, 2012 at 12:16 PM

I’m still worried. Does Ryan have a dog or a horse?

TarheelBen on August 14, 2012 at 12:15 PM

Can a horse fit on the roof of a car?

NoDonkey on August 14, 2012 at 12:17 PM

I think Ohioans are going to love Ryan. He graduated from Miami University in Oxford, Ohio, a sleepy college town in Boehner’s district. It’s just up St. Route 27 from Cincinnati. There are MU grads all over the state, and 99% of them loved their years there. Obama-Biden can try to smear Ryan all they want, but most Ohioans won’t go for it.

If you’re going to compare a smart, accomplished squeaky-clean MU grad with a POS affirmative-action hack, the former is going to win in Ohio.

Ryan is appearing at MU tomorrow at 5 pm, I believe. There are about two roads leading into Oxford, and I’ll bet any amount of money that the traffic coming in from both roads will be backed up for miles. As far as Ohioans will be concerned, Ryan will be considered one of their own.

BuckeyeSam on August 14, 2012 at 12:17 PM

Just wait till they learn that Ryan wants to set seniors on fire or whatever. /

Seriously, though, I think it’ll be difficult to ‘Palinize’ Ryan. He’s more well-known, he’s been appearing on national media for awhile, and he just doesn’t look like someone wanting to push grandman off a cliff. As he said, his Mom is a FL senior

I would just add that he already has taken the slings and arrows for the last 4 years. He knows his stuff and knows how to respond the Democratic attacks.

WisRich on August 14, 2012 at 12:18 PM

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows Mitt Romney attracting support from 47% of voters nationwide, while President Obama earns the vote from 44%. Four percent (4%) prefer some other candidate, and six percent (6%) are undecided.

The numbers remains the same after Ryan selection. Likely reflects that most people, except 6%, have made up their mind already.
While Ryan’s selection may not have moved the numbers, it obviously increases enthusiasm.

The 6% that still remains undecided probably would not move in the near future if they have not make up their minds by now. They want more “show me” and would not decide on their votes until after the debates. But they probably will break more to challenger,if they are undecided after watching Barry for 3 1/2 years. They probably just want to know more about Romney.

bayview on August 14, 2012 at 12:18 PM

Can a horse fit on the roof of a car?

NoDonkey on August 14, 2012 at 12:17 PM

I’ll bet Ryan could probably do it . . .

TarheelBen on August 14, 2012 at 12:19 PM

KOOLAID2
Thanks…………Ohio here………;-)

angrymike on August 14, 2012 at 12:19 PM

Again, I fear that Ryan’s numbers, while just fine now, will be trash by November due to the lying MSM. That would have happened with anyone, so it’s not a knock on Ryan. That’s just how these things go.

Palin was in the 80s for approval rating with Alaskans when McCain initially picked her and we all know how that went.

Just have to make plainly clear, again and again and again and again, nothing will change in your coverage if you are 55 or older. Hammer that home and they should still be able to win.

RedNewEnglander on August 14, 2012 at 12:07 PM

Paul Ryan is not Sarah Palin. He will not have a Katy Couric moment…no way, no how.

rickyricardo on August 14, 2012 at 12:20 PM

Pretty good for a guy who pushes old ladies in wheel chairs off a cliff…

PatriotRider on August 14, 2012 at 12:06 PM

I never have understood how the Dems think this scare tactic will work in Florida. We don’t have cliffs. //

Flora Duh on August 14, 2012 at 12:20 PM

My biggest hope from the Ryan pick was that Romney would begin to take notes on Ryan’s speeches; become more passionate, affirmative, and declarative. But it’s not happening so far. For example, he shyed away from the Ryan budget. WEAK!!

michaelthomas on August 14, 2012 at 12:21 PM

Palin was in the 80s for approval rating with Alaskans when McCain initially picked her and we all know how that went.

RedNewEnglander on August 14, 2012 at 12:07 PM

McCain rose in the polls until he decided to “suspend” his campaign and look like the fool at the table?

LoganSix on August 14, 2012 at 12:12 PM

Let’s not forget it was McCain’s own staff that sabotaged Sarah Palin…

SWalker on August 14, 2012 at 12:23 PM

Yeah, but, Headlines has Politico quoting GOP consultants and insiders as grumbling about Ryan’s selection. They must be ahead of the curve or something.

a capella on August 14, 2012 at 12:23 PM

My biggest hope from the Ryan pick was that Romney would begin to take notes on Ryan’s speeches; become more passionate, affirmative, and declarative. But it’s not happening so far. For example, he shyed away from the Ryan budget. WEAK!!

michaelthomas on August 14, 2012 at 12:21 PM

Concern troll noted…

SWalker on August 14, 2012 at 12:23 PM

I do not understand why people do not get this. Ryan is an enabler of the bad things our society enjoys doing. Of course he is going to have popularity.

Like social security and medicare, he enables you to imagine it lasting far into the future. I think it is a lie, but if you beleive him, perhaps because you want to beleive him, then he is telling you that you can keep on spending into oblivion forever. What is not to like if you are a low information uncaring sloth of a human being?

astonerii on August 14, 2012 at 12:24 PM

My biggest hope from the Ryan pick was that Romney would begin to take notes on Ryan’s speeches; become more passionate, affirmative, and declarative. But it’s not happening so far. For example, he shyed away from the Ryan budget. WEAK!!

michaelthomas on August 14, 2012 at 12:21 PM

You apparently didn’t watch Romney over the weekend. He was a new man on the stump.

changer1701 on August 14, 2012 at 12:24 PM

I think Ohio may have been the real reason Ryan was picked. That last poll showed a lack on enthusiasm for Romney among Republicans. He really needed to shore up the base there as Bush was able to do in 2004. Ryan will excite all those voters who voted for Santorum in the primary. And him being a Catholic will help boost the campaign for those voters. (Might be the same group there, I always thought that Santorum’s Catholicism really helped him on those close primaries.)

rockmom on August 14, 2012 at 12:27 PM

astonerii on August 14, 2012 at 12:24 PM

Guess I’ll have to choose between believing him or believing you……O.K.,… that’s done.

a capella on August 14, 2012 at 12:27 PM

What is not to like if you are a low information uncaring sloth of a human being?

astonerii on August 14, 2012 at 12:24 PM

I see what you did there.

rockmom on August 14, 2012 at 12:28 PM

Rasmussen: Ohio likely voters favorable toward Ryan, 51/39

Like Martha says: “And that’s a good thing.”

:)

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on August 14, 2012 at 12:29 PM

You apparently didn’t watch Romney over the weekend. He was a new man on the stump.

changer1701 on August 14, 2012 at 12:24 PM

Who will he be in office if he is able to reinvent himself on the fly?

astonerii on August 14, 2012 at 12:29 PM

Frumm is right as usual, Ryan is a big drag on Romney.

burt on August 14, 2012 at 12:29 PM

Yeah, that EVIL Paul Ryan is REALLY scary!

Rollin’, rollin’, rollin’ …

Pork-Chop on August 14, 2012 at 12:29 PM

McCain rose in the polls until he decided to “suspend” his campaign and look like the fool at the table?

LoganSix on August 14, 2012 at 12:12 PM

From Gallup 9/8/08 – McCain Palin 50% – Obama Biden 46%

The convention and/or McCain’s selection of Sarah Palin as his vice presidential running mate not only had the effect of moving the horserace needle in McCain’s direction, but also increased several measures of enthusiasm for the GOP.

There has been a very substantial jump in the percentage of Republicans saying they are more enthusiastic about voting in this election, from 42% a week ago (after the Democratic convention, but before the Republican convention) to 60% today.

faraway on August 14, 2012 at 12:29 PM

I have said since December that Obama will lose Ohio, guaranteed, I have only talked to 2 ppl over the age of 30 who said they would vote for O. Not including ppl of color………

angrymike on August 14, 2012 at 12:30 PM

Guess I’ll have to choose between believing him or believing you……O.K.,… that’s done.

a capella on August 14, 2012 at 12:27 PM

Lazy people tend to do that with things they want to hear.

astonerii on August 14, 2012 at 12:31 PM

Then, this happened 10/16/08

faraway on August 14, 2012 at 12:31 PM

The race is on to “define” Paul Ryan, but so far, the Romney team seems to be ahead.

That why Biden is out there saying that Romney/Ryan is going to “put you back in chains.” If I were an idiot Obama supporter, I’d be hoping that they can do better than absurd remarks like this even if it is before a hard left anti-demcocracy like the Center for American Progress.

Happy Nomad on August 14, 2012 at 12:33 PM

BIDEN TO AUDIENCE THAT INCLUDES BLACK PEOPLE: ROMNEY IS ‘GONNA PUT Y’ALL BACK IN CHAINS’

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/biden-to-audience-filled-with-black-people-romney-is-gonna-put-yall-back-in-chains/

redguy on August 14, 2012 at 12:34 PM

Why don’t they just poll media types……..then maybe they can come up with a demographic that doesn’t like him much?

Tater Salad on August 14, 2012 at 12:35 PM

of course they are he feeds directly into the Ohio GOP’s populism….

so does pointing out the 716 billion and EPA blocking shale

Closing the coal plants driving up our electric bills

Let America Work

Start pointing out that “spending 500 million as a gift to a company to pretend it makes solar panels is not helping the US workers”…

WE HAVE IT I WAS RIGHT THAT IS WHY THEY ARE GOING NUTS!

LET AMERICA WORK!

harlekwin15 on August 14, 2012 at 12:35 PM

OT: Gaffe-tastic Joe at it again.

Count them, three big gaffes in one speech in VA.
He was able to offend the blacks, hearing-impaired and told the crowd of Virgina citizens that he needed “North Carolina” to win the election.

“Stand up, Chuck, and let -em see ya. Oh, what am I talking about. God love ya, well, tell you what, we will stand up for Chuck! Stand up for Chuck!”

the new aesthetic on August 14, 2012 at 12:36 PM

redguy on August 14, 2012 at 12:34 PM

At the same rally. VP Debate is going to be interesting if this is the Joe that shows up.

Speaking in Danville, Virginia today, Vice President Joe Biden made another blooper.

“With you,” he yelled. “And I mean this, with you we can win North Carolina again!”

Happy Nomad on August 14, 2012 at 12:37 PM

I wonder if some soccer mom/democratic women will be shallow enough to vote for him because of his looks?

Can’t hurt right?

Never overestimate the IQ of a Democrat.

Ca97 on August 14, 2012 at 12:40 PM

Why don’t they just poll media types……..then maybe they can come up with a demographic that doesn’t like him much?

Tater Salad on August 14, 2012 at 12:35 PM

This weekend saw a former journalist turned Dem political strategist being interviewed by a Dem political strategist turned journalist. Don’t you think the media types are already living in enough of an echo chamber?

Happy Nomad on August 14, 2012 at 12:40 PM

KOOLAID2
Thanks…………Ohio here………;-)

angrymike on August 14, 2012 at 12:19 PM

And here!!

Go Ohio, let’s get this done!!

bluefox on August 14, 2012 at 12:40 PM

Never overestimate the IQ of a Democrat.

Ca97 on August 14, 2012 at 12:40 PM

That’s never been a problem. I have yet to figure out how Obama ever got the reputation as being super smart.

Happy Nomad on August 14, 2012 at 12:41 PM

Speaking in Danville, Virginia today, Vice President Joe Biden made another blooper.

“With you,” he yelled. “And I mean this, with you we can win North Carolina again!”

Happy Nomad on August 14, 2012 at 12:37 PM

Heh. He has the gift.

a capella on August 14, 2012 at 12:43 PM

My biggest hope from the Ryan pick was that Romney would begin to take notes on Ryan’s speeches; become more passionate, affirmative, and declarative. But it’s not happening so far. For example, he shyed away from the Ryan budget. WEAK!!
michaelthomas on August 14, 2012 at 12:21 PM

I actually think that maybe Romney is going to suck it up and accept something equivalent to the Ryan plan as his own, and defend it forcefully. But a Devil’s Advocate could imagine a sorry (fictional /) imaginary scene like this:

When asked whether his plan was essentially the same as the Ryan plan, Mitt began “well some of Ryan’s plan are admirable, but I have my own plan.” .. “Which is?” .. “Well now, my plan includes all the good aspects of the Ryan plan, but none of the bad. It’s a ‘have your cake and eat it too’ plan.” … “Specifics?” .. “No, specifics aren’t going to be needed.” /

anotherJoe on August 14, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Speaking in Danville, Virginia today, Vice President Joe Biden made another blooper.

“With you,” he yelled. “And I mean this, with you we can win North Carolina again!”

Happy Nomad on August 14, 2012 at 12:37 PM

I’m starting to wonder how the guy is staying on the ticket. That “chains” remark was completely beyond the pale.

changer1701 on August 14, 2012 at 12:46 PM

Everyone, periodically post the link the the politifact article about the lie of 2011 on your facebook pages.

DethMetalCookieMonst on August 14, 2012 at 12:51 PM

I never have understood how the Dems think this scare tactic will work in Florida. We don’t have cliffs. //

Flora Duh on August 14, 2012 at 12:20 PM

You’ve forgotten what world the left lives in; surely they’re referring to those granny-threatening cliffs in that mountain range in Orlando.

Barnestormer on August 14, 2012 at 12:58 PM

I’m starting to wonder how the guy is staying on the ticket. That “chains” remark was completely beyond the pale.

changer1701 on August 14, 2012 at 12:46 PM

Surprise Hillary announcement at the DNC.

libfreeordie on August 14, 2012 at 12:59 PM

How Obama Is Robbing The Suburbs To Pay For The Cities

http://predicthistunpredictpast.blogspot.com/2012/08/how-obama-is-robbing-suburbs-to-pay-for.html

M2RB: The Pretenders

Resist We Much on August 14, 2012 at 12:59 PM

I’m starting to wonder how the guy is staying on the ticket. That “chains” remark was completely beyond the pale.

changer1701 on August 14, 2012 at 12:46 PM

That the Democratic Party exists at all in its present vile, lying, corrupt and incompetent forum, is testement to the fact of our lowered standards on everything.

NoDonkey on August 14, 2012 at 12:59 PM

Paul Ryan is not Sarah Palin. He will not have a Katy Couric moment…no way, no how.

rickyricardo on August 14, 2012 at 12:20 PM

and Barack Obama had not taken 716 billion from Medicare….

no this pick was genius….hit ‘em in the head with the facts RR

harlekwin15 on August 14, 2012 at 1:02 PM

Surprise Hillary announcement at the DNC.

libfreeordie on August 14, 2012 at 12:59 PM

Don’t think so. Our president’s narcisissim won’t let that happen. She would steal the spotlight. I’m afraid he’s in a box. Might be able to go with another borderline functional replacement. I’m thinkin’ Maxine Waters or Sheila Jackson Lee. They wouldn’t threaten him.

a capella on August 14, 2012 at 1:08 PM

Is Debbie What-a-dumb Schmuck an alias for Debbie Wiseass-Shitz?

burt on August 14, 2012 at 1:09 PM

I’m starting to wonder how the guy is staying on the ticket. That “chains” remark was completely beyond the pale.

changer1701 on August 14, 2012 at 12:46 PM

Full-on dementia on display?

Hopefully helping turn Virginia red on 11/6.

22044 on August 14, 2012 at 1:09 PM

My money’s on them dumping Biden for Hill at the convention.

B Man on August 14, 2012 at 1:13 PM

BuckeyeSam on August 14, 2012 at 12:17 PM

I agree. Here are some changes from the S.O.S. of Ohio. A new online method of changing a Registered Voter’s address:

http://www.sos.state.oh.us/SOS/mediaCenter/2012.aspx

Also Ohio Primary Election Results:
http://www.sos.state.oh.us/SOS/elections/Research/electResultsMain/2012Results.aspx

bluefox on August 14, 2012 at 1:13 PM

Not only did McCaine’s functionaries screw Palin, McCaine is such a jerk he didn’t help and nobody wanted to vote for him anyway.

burt on August 14, 2012 at 1:14 PM

General Election: Obama 45, Romney 47 Romney +2

Gallup has Romney up today for first time in a few weeks.

bayview on August 14, 2012 at 1:17 PM

HA HA HA.

Yeah, we know it “smarter than us” gop strategy gurus. The thousands of people coming out to hear Ryan (and now Romney) are just loons and looking for a loser to come out and support. Gosh, I’m shor glad we got smarties lookin out for us yayhoos.

GOP pros fret over Paul Ryan

By: Alexander Burns and Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Martin
August 14, 2012 04:30 AM EDT

You’ve heard them on television and read them on POLITICO — cheerful, defiant statements from Republican political professionals about Mitt Romney’s bold masterstroke in tapping Paul Ryan as his running mate, and turning the 2012 presidential race into a serious, far-reaching debate about budgets and the nation’s future.

Don’t buy it.

Away from the cameras, and with all the usual assurances that people aren’t being quoted by name, there is an unmistakable consensus among Republican operatives in Washington: Romney has taken a risk with Ryan that has only a modest chance of going right — and a huge chance of going horribly wrong.

In more than three dozen interviews with Republican strategists and campaign operatives — old hands and rising next-generation conservatives alike — the most common reactions to Ryan ranged from gnawing apprehension to hair-on-fire anger that Romney has practically ceded the election.

It is not that the public professions of excitement about the Ryan selection are totally insincere. It is that many of the most optimistic Republican operatives will privately acknowledge that their views are being shaped more by fingers-crossed hope than by a hard-headed appraisal of what’s most likely to happen.

And the more pessimistic strategists don’t even feign good cheer: They think the Ryan pick is a disaster for the GOP.

http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=9D239690-8DCD-4DD7-8723-4A18ED5A9C8C

The Left is just DESPICABLE, FILTHY, LYING SPITTLE.

Let’s just be upfront about it.

PappyD61 on August 14, 2012 at 1:21 PM

OT: Well, went out to lunch here in Florida today and just about every other car had a Romney sticker on it.

Might be because I was at chick fil a, but still, it was good to see. :)

taternuggets on August 14, 2012 at 1:22 PM

No internals? Or is it a typical Rass 20/60/20 d/r/i?

Rainsford on August 14, 2012 at 1:22 PM

Surprise Hillary announcement at the DNC.

libfreeordie on August 14, 2012 at 12:59 PM

Admitting that:

1. Obama needs a Hail Mary, and

2. Paul Will Unplug Plugs?

Resist We Much on August 14, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Surprise Hillary announcement at the DNC.

libfreeordie on August 14, 2012 at 12:59 PM

I guess it would be since she isn’t going to be there. Face it moron, you’re chained to Biden no matter how much you want to pretend that he wasn’t put on the ticket as the “smart” one.

Happy Nomad on August 14, 2012 at 1:24 PM

I’ll bet Ryan could probably do it . . .

TarheelBen on August 14, 2012 at 12:19 PM

Sure. And if you saw his hunting pix, you would know that even a large buck can fit up there quite nicely :-)

MJBrutus on August 14, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Might be because I was at chick fil a, but still, it was good to see. :)

taternuggets on August 14, 2012 at 1:22 PM

Hate chicken, bigot fries, and signs for vulture capitalists….. Good times!

Happy Nomad on August 14, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Might be able to go with another borderline functional replacement. I’m thinkin’ Maxine Waters or Sheila Jackson Lee. They wouldn’t threaten him.

a capella on August 14, 2012 at 1:08 PM

Which of those was the one who asked if the Mars rover was near the American flag left by the astronauts?

MJBrutus on August 14, 2012 at 1:27 PM

My Fantasy:

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/13/aug-13-polls-have-middling-reviews-for-ryan/#more-33156

libfreeordie on August 14, 2012 at 12:58 PM

From your link:

Then, we’ll take a quick look at overnight polls that took the temperature of Mitt Romney’s new running mate, Representative Paul D. Ryan of Wisconsin.

Reputable pollsters poll in cycles with a minimum of 3 days. Some, like our UNH/WMUR one here in New Hampshire, poll over a 10 day period.

Also from your link

Only a smattering of the horse-race data was conducted after Mr. Romney’s announcement of his vice-presidential pick.

So your “reality” is as usual based on incomplete data. Even Nate Silver admits that later on, when he compares Ryan’s overnight “poll numbers” with the “poll numbers” of prior VP candidates compiled over several weeks.

How many moons are there in the sky on your world?

F-

Del Dolemonte on August 14, 2012 at 1:29 PM

Ryan’s biggest name recognition impact, the reason we know his name, and the way most people would have heard his name is his budget.

To “redefine” him would seem to mean dismantling or attacking his budget; which opens this campaign up to being economics driven.

And I really really doubt Obama wants to go that way; so they’ll “try” to redefine him “around the edges” with sniping attacks on anything else; while ignoring why a lot of people already know who he is (even if they don’t know the specifics of his budget).

Or they can wade into the economics/budget issue.

“Paul Ryan represent Obama’s most horrifying nightmare: math. ” – Iowahawk
https://twitter.com/iowahawkblog/status/234270812050432000

The Ryan/Biden debates should be fun. Like watching a Grizzly fight a chipmunk… after you drug the chipmunk.

gekkobear on August 14, 2012 at 1:32 PM

Full-on dementia on display?

Hopefully helping turn Virginia red on 11/6.

22044 on August 14, 2012 at 1:09 PM

New post on Joe Biden!

22044 on August 14, 2012 at 1:32 PM

Hate chicken, bigot fries, and signs for vulture capitalists….. Good times!

Happy Nomad on August 14, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Sorry to ruin your day, it’s obvious by how butthurt you are that it’s all slipping away.

YES WE CAN! You’re damned right we can.

taternuggets on August 14, 2012 at 1:35 PM

My money’s on them dumping Biden for Hill at the convention.

B Man on August 14, 2012 at 1:13 PM

.
Thought this for awhile as well. And team Ocommie will have to do something, if they are behind.
Slo Joe is old enough to have the “health issues” requiring him to spend more time with the family. Liberal media will cover for him as well.

Question is, will Hillary take a chance jumping on a sinking ship ?

FlaMurph on August 14, 2012 at 1:37 PM

No internals? Or is it a typical Rass 20/60/20 d/r/i?

Rainsford on August 14, 2012 at 1:22 PM

Smells like Teen Spirit in here.

Tell us again how the Associated Press in May of 2011 sampled almost twice as many Democrats as Republicans for one of their “polls”, or explain for us the “polls” last week that had D+19, D+11, and D+9 oversamples.

Oh, and if you can prove that Ras oversamples Republicans by the amounts you claim, then we’ll talk.

But you cannot, and you know it and I know it.

INCOMPLETE

Del Dolemonte on August 14, 2012 at 1:37 PM

Del Dolemonte on August 14, 2012 at 1:29 PM

Gallup has Romney up today for first time in a few weeks. That tracking result reflects survey done after the Ryan selection.

bayview on August 14, 2012 at 1:38 PM

FlaMurph on August 14, 2012 at 1:37 PM

She probably REALLY doesn’t wanna, but my guess is, Bill is desperately trying to change her mind.

She will NOT be SoS if he wins; She places a lot of importance on “loyalty”, if they try hard enough, they can get her to do it.

Put it this way, if the ticket is still Obama/Biden when election day comes, I’ll be surprised.

B Man on August 14, 2012 at 1:48 PM

Obamas online dick tuggers are posting fast and furious from their Chicago blog spammer headquarters.
Looks like Hot Air is a special target for obfuscation operations.

rickyricardo on August 14, 2012 at 2:18 PM

Ed, I think we are seriously underestimating the power that the articulate midwesterner can have on the people of this country. This man, Ryan…..is absolutely terrorizing the minds of the Left, and it’s barely day 4 (!) since his announcement as #2. The evidence is overwhelming already of this. If Team Romney can keep his spokesman out in front of these hacks….then Rush is right. Landslide.

TimRobotic on August 14, 2012 at 2:20 PM

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