The Romney/Ryan alternative energy plan

posted at 3:21 pm on August 13, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

President Obama unveiled his ostensible “all of the above” energy plan earlier this year, but after gas prices peaked in April and then started to calm back down, domestic energy production also became more of a back-burner issue on the presidential campaign trail (who has time for energy when we’ve got hiking taxes on the wealthy and Mitt Romney’s tax returns to talk about, right?). Barring President Obama’s standard thrown-in support for continued federal subsidies for renewable energies, the issue hasn’t been front-and-center of late, but I’d bet good money Team Obama will make another big “all of the above”-ish push before November (especially if national gas price averages keep steadily climbing as they more recently have been again, although that is standard in the summertime).

Mitt Romney’s energy plan includes opening up more available domestic resources for drilling and fracking, streamlining regulations, and limiting federal energy “investments” to basic R&D — all of which are moves in the right direction and all of which rub up against President Obama’s current course for our energy economy, a fact that Team Obama hasn’t failed to note and subsequently chastise:

Federico Pena Former Secretary of Energy

“Mitt Romney says he has a plan for energy independence that would bring us forward, but looking at his policies makes it clear he would bring us backward. You cannot achieve energy independence if your only plan is to “drill, baby, drill.” Instead, we need to reduce our demand for foreign oil—through a suite of all-of-the-above policies like better fuel efficiency and advanced electric and natural gas vehicles, which Mitt Romney has opposed. We need to invest in clean energies, and advanced biofuels, and you don’t get there by cutting investments in those energy sources. Here in Colorado, the President’s policies have resulted in natural gas production at an all-time high and oil production at its highest since 1981. Mitt Romney is trying to fool voters into thinking he has a plan, when really he would just cede our clean energy economy to our foreign competitors.”

Jennifer Granholm Former Governor of Michigan

Mitt Romney’s plan for energy independence cannot be taken seriously. Energy independence is just political rhetoric if you don’t include significant investments in home-grown clean energy sources like wind, solar, and other renewables. Yet, Romney has made it clear that he opposes the wind production tax credit and all incentives for clean energy—which would pull the rug out from under our growing clean energy sector, which supports thousands of jobs across the country. President Obama’s all-of-the-above energy strategy, fostering innovation and the development of our domestic renewable sources of energy, and doubling production of solar and wind energy—is getting us closer to energy independence than Mitt Romney’s plan ever could. …

Blah, blah, blah. Actually, I’m pretty sure that a route to energy security means that we stop cutting Americans off from our own resources and instead allow our ingenuity and entrepreneurship to garner us a market share of the ever-growing energy industry sans government interference — why not “cede our clean energy economy to our foreign competitors”? It’s not like it’s doing us much good, seeing as how it’s only operational while the government continues to subsidize it, but I digress. Mitt Romney does have a few iffy energy-related liabilities in his record, as he’s supported some government-sponsored clean energies in the past, but Politico points out that that’s another area where bringing Paul Ryan on board can potentially help him out.

The Wisconsin Republican has been an outspoken critic of President Barack Obama’s clean energy agenda, offering a fiscal plan earlier this year that neatly mirrors the GOP’s policy priorities. The plan would expand oil and gas drilling, limit the reach of the EPA and kill the Energy Department’s clean energy loan program.

The plan even earned a high-profile rebuke from Obama, something that many Republicans would wear as a badge of honor. “If some politicians had their way, there won’t be any more public investment in solar energy,” the president said during a March speech at a solar plant in Colorado.

Ryan has rarely broken with his party on energy issues, a part of his resume that is probably a big bonus for Romney, who has come under fire for his position on climate change while governor of Massachusetts. …

“In picking Paul Ryan, Gov. Romney really doubled down on his approach to favoring oil companies over clean energy,” said Navin Nayak, senior vice president for campaigns at the League of Conservation Voters.

Puh-lease. Republicans aren’t “favoring oil companies over clean energy,” they just want to allow the free market — a.k.a., reality — to do its work and allow supply to meet demand. The Obama administration, on the other hand, most definitely favors clean energy over oil companies — and as they’ve tripped over themselves to do so, they’ve shown ample willingness to socially engineer and centrally plan the economy, the costs be damned.


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This stuff will help, but what will really be a major assist is if they take the breaks off the nuclear industry.

Doomberg on August 13, 2012 at 3:23 PM

Paul Ryan wants to incinerate the atmosphere with a giant magnifying glass.

steebo77 on August 13, 2012 at 3:23 PM

Also, Ryan get Mitt to put a major stop to the epa on all the regulations they are doing! The epa is about the worse agency in dc and costs America millions of jobs!
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letget on August 13, 2012 at 3:25 PM

What timing: Fed Ct decides for Tx, against EPA today. Bwahaha

hillsoftx on August 13, 2012 at 3:27 PM

Why would Obama want to support the oil and coal industries when all his cronies are into “alternative” energies?

bsinc1962 on August 13, 2012 at 3:30 PM

The Obama administration, on the other hand, most definitely favors clean energy no-talent ass clown solar panel manufacturers over oil companies

FTFY Erika…..gratis.

ted c on August 13, 2012 at 3:31 PM

Shale, Shale, Shale….

harlekwin15 on August 13, 2012 at 3:31 PM

hillsoftx on August 13, 2012 at 3:27 PM

WOW, thanks for that update! Good news for our state it seems!
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letget on August 13, 2012 at 3:32 PM

So glad to hear Mitt stand up to Iowa’s rep. King and sen. Grassley about the infernal wind production tax credits that passed the senate committee last week. We need to give these giant Wind Corps. more tax breaks like we need another hole in the head. King and Grassley need to wake up and stop robbing the rest of the country to bring pork back to IA. Hope Ryan stands up to Big Wind, too–they are very prominent in WI, also.

cpasherry on August 13, 2012 at 3:32 PM

Paul Ryan wants to incinerate the atmosphere with a giant magnifying glass.

steebo77 on August 13, 2012 at 3:23 PM

Oops,…sorry, Barry…thought you were an ant.

swinia sutki on August 13, 2012 at 3:34 PM

Yes! Throw Grandma into the coal mine!

Mr. Wednesday Night on August 13, 2012 at 3:34 PM

Yes! Throw Grandma into the coal mine!

Mr. Wednesday Night on August 13, 2012 at 3:34 PM

Throwing Grandma into a vat of oil would be worse.

Don’t think the Dems haven’t already thought of this one…

Aizen on August 13, 2012 at 3:37 PM

Yes! Throw Grandma into the coal mine!

Mr. Wednesday Night on August 13, 2012 at 3:34 PM

Can’t. Obama shut them all down…

sandee on August 13, 2012 at 3:37 PM

American economy should harness the most powerful domestic (?) source of renewable energy, which is Hussein Ogabe himself. Just imagine the power that can be generated from the wind and the hot air from his speeches, the algae scum that his sidekicks are, and the geothermal energy that his colleague Baalzebub commands.

Archivarix on August 13, 2012 at 3:39 PM

Ryan will use Cheney’s weather machine to create powerful winds to blow RomboCancer laden coal dust into your house.

Bishop on August 13, 2012 at 3:41 PM

The failed energy policies of the past,, ya know, the ones that created the greatest industrial/technological revolution ever known?

wolly4321 on August 13, 2012 at 3:41 PM

A long overdue position of retiring real subsidies would be in order. Useless ethanol production, which during the drought of the last few years, has resulted in skyhigh corn prices! As for other whimsical alternatives, one of the worst is “biomass fuels.” As I recall, the Navy actually agreed to purchase fuel for some ship at $70/gal???? These guys in the Obama Administration are chock full of “ideas!”

tomshup on August 13, 2012 at 3:41 PM

What timing: Fed Ct decides for Tx, against EPA today. Bwahaha

hillsoftx on August 13, 2012 at 3:27 PM

Will Barry break out his magic EO pen and ignore the courts????

Tune in…

harlekwin15 on August 13, 2012 at 3:42 PM

Same ol’ question: why does it have to be Federal money invested in clean energy research?

There are scads of Hollywood hotshots worth hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars; there are Warren Buffet and George Kaiser and George Soros and a raft of other billionaires, all of whom are in favor of clean, green, renewable. Let them put their money where their mouth is; there is nothing preventing them from forming venture capital companies to fund this type of research.

C’mon all you smart talkers – instead of just bitching about things, how about actually enacting your beliefs?

I remind you that fracking technology was not developed on the Federal dime.

ss396 on August 13, 2012 at 3:43 PM

Paul Ryan wants to incinerate the atmosphere with a giant magnifying glass.

steebo77 on August 13, 2012 at 3:23 PM

You’ve been cracking me up all day with these. Keep up the good work.

Lost in Jersey on August 13, 2012 at 3:45 PM

Media Matters has dropped the oppo book on Ryan…look for it on a Legacy Media outlet near you.

d1carter on August 13, 2012 at 3:42 PM

Let ‘em flail…..

one quick response to each allegation:

How much time did you spend trying to find what barack Obama is hiding with his records and transcripts?

People WANT to be allowed to be angry at Barack openly the media risks giving folks’ permission…

harlekwin15 on August 13, 2012 at 3:46 PM

Jennifer Granholm Former Governor of Michigan

…I don’t know Federico Pena…but this one ^ ^ ^ after following her closely as Michigan’s Attorney General…AND for eight years as our govenor…I would believe more readily that tits on a bull would produce milk on a daily basis… versus a cow!
She was a penisless Obama!

KOOLAID2 on August 13, 2012 at 3:46 PM

Alternative energy, save medicare, save soc sec, repeal and replace marxist care, reform this reform that. Same thing coming from both parties. The lessor of two evils is still evil.

bgibbs1000 on August 13, 2012 at 3:50 PM

Politico FAIL

Can’t even quote THEMSELVES accurately:

“If some politicians had their way, there won’t be any more public investment in solar energy,” the president said during a March speech at a solar plant in Colorado.

From the LINK:

“You’d think that everybody would be supportive of solar panels,” Obama said at a Boulder City, Nev., photovoltaic plant billed as the largest operating in the country. “That’s what you’d think and yet, if some politicians have their way, there won’t be any more public investments in solar energy.”

FIFY

“If some politicians had their way, I won’t be allowed more public cronyism in solar energy,” the pretender said during a March speech at a solar plant belonging to donors who pocketed the money but are letting the company go bankrupt anyway in Nevada

CapnObvious on August 13, 2012 at 3:51 PM

Shale, Shale, Shale….

harlekwin15 on August 13, 2012 at 3:31 PM

Wait till the LeanStream Media starts yapping about CAns getting a heart attack over Monterey shale :

http://montereyshale.net/

burrata on August 13, 2012 at 3:51 PM

Paul Ryan can drill me anytime

Slade73 on August 13, 2012 at 3:51 PM

When you hear the phrase “Renewable Energy” uttered by ANYONE you should know they don’t have a clue on the subject of ENERGY. OK?
I anticipate the VP debate. (And after Ryan demolishes Slo-Joe, you’ll know why the DNC limited their exposure to only ONE.)
Oh, and look for the moderator to actively participate in supporting Slo Joe Biden who without this sustenance will slowly resemble a trembling puddle of puss before the final bell.

Missilengr on August 13, 2012 at 3:52 PM

In picking Paul Ryan, Gov. Romney really doubled down on his approach to favoring oil companies over clean energy

This is because Romney and Ryan are heartless Tin Men who need more oil for their oil cans.

steebo77 on August 13, 2012 at 3:53 PM

Ryan only wants the rich to be able to afford gasoline!

profitsbeard on August 13, 2012 at 3:54 PM

it must have hurt the fingers of that reporter that is linked in hillsoftx above…

“The flexible permit program, established in 1994, sets facility-wide emissions limits, which federal regulators had said left them in the dark about how many gases particular parts of the plant are belching into the air.”

Basically flexible permitting allows upgrades to plants to occur without going through the process of re-permitting the entire plant for upgrading a component. The Austin-American Statesman is as liberal as any rag in the US.

DanMan on August 13, 2012 at 3:54 PM

You’ve been cracking me up all day with these. Keep up the good work.

Lost in Jersey on August 13, 2012 at 3:45 PM

Why? If I work more, that means more money I pay into Medicare. More money for Paul Ryan to steal from me.

steebo77 on August 13, 2012 at 3:55 PM

The best Ryan vs Biden video you will ever see…

1 Heartbeat Away for the Oval Office

SWalker on August 13, 2012 at 3:55 PM

hillsoftx on August 13, 2012 at 3:27 PM

YAY !!!

pambi on August 13, 2012 at 3:56 PM

Wait till the LeanStream Media starts yapping about CAns getting a heart attack over Monterey shale :

http://montereyshale.net/

burrata on August 13, 2012 at 3:51 PM

We sit on top of about 130 trillion of petro checm potential minimum…..

so of course the answer is to pay Solyndra to make imaginary solar….

I mean I can write that in my “slavic sub tech” style if you’d like but them’s the facts….

there’s shale in the whole nation damn near….

yeah “energy crisis”

If the libs manage to ever undo the modern golden age we’re in with lies….

God save them from the rage and pushback when the truth outs….as it ALWAYS does.

harlekwin15 on August 13, 2012 at 3:57 PM

Oh, and look for the moderator to actively participate in supporting Slo Joe Biden who without this sustenance will slowly resemble a trembling puddle of puss before the final bell.

Missilengr on August 13, 2012 at 3:52 PM

At worst, the MSM will declare it a tie.

swinia sutki on August 13, 2012 at 3:57 PM

OT: Moderators for the debates are named…

d1carter on August 13, 2012 at 3:57 PM

“In picking Paul Ryan, Gov. Romney really doubled down on his approach to favoring oil companies over clean energy,” said Navin Nayak, senior vice president for campaigns at the League of Conservation Voters.

Exxon over Solyndra? Yeah, I’ll go for that.

changer1701 on August 13, 2012 at 3:58 PM

Why? If I work more, that means more money I pay into Medicare. More money for Paul Ryan to steal from me.

steebo77 on August 13, 2012 at 3:55 PM

You can’t be this ignorant.

If you work more, that means you have more money to use for private, affordable care, instead of being forced into a government-run system. Which means, less money for the government to steal from you. Paul Ryan ain’t touching your money, he’s planning to let you keep it.

Aizen on August 13, 2012 at 3:59 PM

Paul Ryan generates all the heat this country needs.

LASue on August 13, 2012 at 4:00 PM

Also, Ryan get Mitt to put a major stop to the epa on all the regulations they are doing! The epa is about the worse agency in dc and costs America millions of jobs!
L

letget on August 13, 2012 at 3:25 PM

He doesn’t need to. Mitt has made it plain from the inception of his campaign that this is a major priority for his administration.

MJBrutus on August 13, 2012 at 4:01 PM

Puh-lease. Republicans aren’t “favoring oil companies over clean energy,”

Sure we are. Because we support WHAT WORKS. Liberals support pie-in-the-sky nonsense and call it “clean energy.” They’ve been yapping about solar power since Jimmy Carter was President. Obama has thrown away $18 billion on this nonsense, yet he refuss to confront the Chinese about dumping below-market-priced solar panels on the market.

The Kennedys have stopped a wind farm off Cape Cod because they don’t want the giant monstrosities to ruin their pristine views. Even liberals in New Jersey are grumbling about the ugly soalr panels that have been stuck on light poles along the state highways. The bigger these “clean energy” projects, the more we will start runing afoul of the BANANA crowd that will oppose them on aesthetic or environmental grounds. (Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anyone.)

And Ms. Granholm, who ran Michigan into the ground economically, is an especially poor commentator on this. The Democrats’ jihad against oil will devastate the auto industry.

rockmom on August 13, 2012 at 4:01 PM

Jennifer Granholm Former Governor of Michigan

Mitt Romney’s plan for energy independence cannot be taken seriously.

Jennifer granholm is a joke not to be taken seriously. Ms. Wartface spent a few terms completely destroying not only Detroit, but all of Michigan’s economy. We’re starting to see daylight now, even with a semi-squish for gov we have now.

Liberals know N O T H I N G about fiscal responsibility. NOTHING! They should never be trusted with our wallets, EVER. Anyone that gives a liberal a dollar better be prepared not only to see that dollar wasted, but just giving them one dollar somehow means you’ve given them permission to raid every personal financial resource you have. Nothing is safe from these criminals.

Wolfmoon on August 13, 2012 at 4:02 PM

If you work more, that means you have more money to use for private, affordable care, instead of being forced into a government-run system. Which means, less money for the government to steal from you. Paul Ryan ain’t touching your money, he’s planning to let you keep it.

Aizen on August 13, 2012 at 3:59 PM

Whatever. Paul Ryan wants to give my money to Wall Street banksters and Dick Cheney.

steebo77 on August 13, 2012 at 4:02 PM

Paul Ryan’s guns are a vast untapped source of energy

Slade73 on August 13, 2012 at 4:03 PM

Whatever. Paul Ryan wants to give my money to Wall Street banksters and Dick Cheney.

steebo77 on August 13, 2012 at 4:02 PM

Maybe someday someone will actually believe those idiotic, mindless, factless liberal communist talking points. Well, someone beside other liberal morons, that is.

Wolfmoon on August 13, 2012 at 4:05 PM

Here in Colorado, the President’s policies have resulted in natural gas production at an all-time high and oil production at its highest since 1981.

Bald-faced lie by Pena. All the drilling is on private land, Salazar is slow-walking or forbidding new permits on federal land. And 0′s EPA is doing everything they can to stop all fracking.

He may as well be claiming that the sun rises in the east thanks to 0′s policies.

iurockhead on August 13, 2012 at 4:06 PM

Iowa gets 20% of its electric energy from wind power. Anyone that has driven across Iowa lately could believe this to be true given the number windmill’s spinning and the number of trucks transporting new windmill parts.

Iowa farmers get checks in the mail for the power generated on their property. The threat of stopping those checks will kill any chances of taking Iowa. Ditto that for Colorado.

Losing this election (and the future) over such an insignificant policy issue would be stupid.

Carnac on August 13, 2012 at 4:06 PM

Maybe someday someone will actually believe those idiotic, mindless, factless liberal communist talking points. Well, someone beside other liberal morons, that is.

Wolfmoon on August 13, 2012 at 4:05 PM

Cindy Sheehan and Rachel Maddow are bigger men than you’ll ever be.

steebo77 on August 13, 2012 at 4:07 PM

Whatever. Paul Ryan wants to give my money to Wall Street banksters and Dick Cheney.

steebo77 on August 13, 2012 at 4:02 PM

You know, the “cut taxes for the rich” is such a nonsensical attack line, yet for some reason, it still has power in today’s society.

CUTTING TAXES means people pay less money to the government, which also means they’re simply getting more of THEIR OWN money back. It’s logically and mathematically impossible for tax cuts to COST money, because that money isn’t coming from the taxpayer, and the government doesn’t have its own source of funds.

Aizen on August 13, 2012 at 4:07 PM

Paul Ryan is against solar energy because he wants to steal all of the sunshine from the Sunshine State–which will render my taxpayer-subsidized solar panels inoperative.

steebo77 on August 13, 2012 at 4:11 PM

I’m a sex craved poodle for Paul Ryan

Slade73 on August 13, 2012 at 4:12 PM

God save them from the rage and pushback when the truth outs….as it ALWAYS does.

harlekwin15 on August 13, 2012 at 3:57 PM

I use Obama’s ” energy policy” to prove to my lefty relatives that he is a jihady, and it always shuts them up :
Obama obstructs oil exploration and refining in USA so that we keep buying oil from islamic countries. While he is doing everything to keep the funding for jihad going, he loots the treasury to fund his bundlers, after a commission for himself ofcourse , which is another form of jihad .
I wish more people in USA could see it this way .

burrata on August 13, 2012 at 4:12 PM

Paul Ryan is against solar energy because he wants to steal all of the sunshine from the Sunshine State–which will render my taxpayer-subsidized solar panels inoperative.

steebo77 on August 13, 2012 at 4:11 PM

I’m calling it, now. You’re trolling. Paul Ryan has never even said anything in opposition to solar energy, he just wants solar to compete within the market, just like every source of energy should. Also, taxpayer-subsidized solar panels? More like the government’s slush fund created by the Democrats stealing taxpayer dollars from other places.

Aizen on August 13, 2012 at 4:16 PM

Oh, and look for the moderator to actively participate in supporting Slo Joe Biden …

Missilengr on August 13, 2012 at 3:52 PM

The ABC wonk that will be moderating the VP debate is a foreign affairs correspondent. Anyone that believes that economic questions will be fielded is an ignorant fool. Expect social issues, especially abortion and contraceptives, defense/wars, and foreign affairs to be highlighted throughout.

Not to mention the requisite arbitrary question “name that leader” of some obscure country. Having been forewarned, Joe will pass his test.

Carnac on August 13, 2012 at 4:16 PM

I’m calling it, now. You’re trolling.

Aizen on August 13, 2012 at 4:16 PM

Wasn’t that obvious from this:

Paul Ryan wants to incinerate the atmosphere with a giant magnifying glass.

steebo77 on August 13, 2012 at 3:23 PM

steebo77 on August 13, 2012 at 4:20 PM

Iowa gets 20% of its electric energy from wind power.

Carnac on August 13, 2012 at 4:06 PM

At what cost?

We have to run on the truth and the truth is that wind and solar are, and have always been boondoggles that rip off taxpayers.
If the Iowa farmers are more concerned with a check than they are with their country, thats on them. The truth is the truth.

Mimzey on August 13, 2012 at 4:29 PM

The ABC wonk that will be moderating the VP debate is a foreign affairs correspondent. Anyone that believes that economic questions will be fielded is an ignorant fool. Expect social issues, especially abortion and contraceptives, defense/wars, and foreign affairs to be highlighted throughout.

Not to mention the requisite arbitrary question “name that leader” of some obscure country. Having been forewarned, Joe will pass his test.

Carnac on August 13, 2012 at 4:16 PM

Reminds me of time my favorite newsreader came to sub shop. Was having bad day Rocco Lampone(my silent brooding partner at sub shop)had had bad day and had firebomb blow back wall off of diner…

Katie Couric asked me, “hey H favorite Slav Sub Tech what do you think of gay marriage?”

Dear god reporters are almost as dumb as my friends Dr. Ferrel and Zach Guarkokokokooskoos in movie…..

I said, “hey Ms. Kooric my G*ddam*ed store is on fire I need fire extinguisher!”

question if voters are like parents to wise kind political figures do you think they reward child who brings home F but thinks “hey mom and dad forget I stole 716 billion pieces of cake because I say LOOK BIRTH CONTROL?”
or

Pick robot child who say “holy God dad let me help you put fire out and keep cake from being stole I go beat baby brother?”

Dos Va Donya comrades

harlekwin15 on August 13, 2012 at 4:32 PM

Paul Ryan can drill me anytime

Slade73 on August 13, 2012 at 3:51 PM

Paul Ryan’s guns are a vast untapped source of energy

Slade73 on August 13, 2012 at 4:03 PM

I’m a sex craved poodle for Paul Ryan

Slade73 on August 13, 2012 at 4:12 PM

????????

silvernana on August 13, 2012 at 4:32 PM

At what cost?

We have to run on the truth and the truth is that wind and solar are, and have always been boondoggles that rip off taxpayers.
If the Iowa farmers are more concerned with a check than they are with their country, thats on them. The truth is the truth.

Mimzey on August 13, 2012 at 4:29 PM

For free silly….the magic unicorn company sells power at a loss and there is no downside at all!

//Hopium addict

harlekwin15 on August 13, 2012 at 4:33 PM

You cannot achieve energy independence if your only plan is to “drill, baby, drill.” Instead, we need to reduce our demand for foreign oil

This dim bulb apparently thinks “Drill, baby, drill” means drilling on foreign soil. What a dope! Defend him, trolls. I dare you.

CurtZHP on August 13, 2012 at 4:41 PM

I’m calling it, now. You’re trolling.

Aizen on August 13, 2012 at 4:16 PM

I think they call that jerking one’s chain.

CurtZHP on August 13, 2012 at 4:42 PM

Paul Ryan’s smile lights up my life

Slade73 on August 13, 2012 at 4:44 PM

For free silly….the magic unicorn company sells power at a loss and there is no downside at all!

//Hopium addict

harlekwin15 on August 13, 2012 at 4:33 PM

WOOT! More windygigs now!!

Mimzey on August 13, 2012 at 4:47 PM

Wish my gasoline cost wasn’t set by the cost of corn and the amount of ethanol that needs to be in gasoline.

Wish my cost of electricity wasn’t set by the cost of wind power, and the percent of wind power that in the supply mix.

I subsidize the supply and then pay for the higher costs, too.

Somebody seeing a benefit, and it isn’t me.

tomg51 on August 13, 2012 at 5:16 PM

Iowa gets 20% of its electric energy from wind power.

Carnac on August 13, 2012 at 4:06 PM

At what cost?

Mimzey on August 13, 2012 at 4:29 PM

There is the added cost of dead bird clean-up the Libs wouldn’t want you to know about.

hillsoftx on August 13, 2012 at 5:23 PM

‘A thorium pebble-bed reactor in every town’ is what it OUGHT to be.
Safe, effective, sized for any community. You set it up, bury the whole damned thing in concrete and steel, use it for 50yrs. No rod pool security, no leakage, no chance of weather damage, destroy the EPA blockages, obviate all the prima facia objections (the Left’s condemnations are all about attacking capitalism and prosperity, anyway).
Now is the time. Instead of this ‘green’ sham and political-kickback monkey f*ckery.

rayra on August 13, 2012 at 5:49 PM

Federico Pena and Jennifer Granholm???? This is the best the dems can come up with?

natasha333 on August 13, 2012 at 5:52 PM

CurtZHP on August 13, 2012 at 4:41 PM

As a practical matter, there is no such thing as “domestic” or “foreign” oil. Oil is a fungible commodity and will be sold to the highest bidder, whatever their nationality.

MJBrutus on August 13, 2012 at 6:06 PM

. You cannot achieve energy independence if your only plan is to “drill, baby, drill.” Instead, we need to reduce our demand for foreign oil

?

Count to 10 on August 13, 2012 at 6:31 PM

As a practical matter, there is no such thing as “domestic” or “foreign” oil. Oil is a fungible commodity and will be sold to the highest bidder, whatever their nationality.

MJBrutus on August 13, 2012 at 6:06 PM

No entirely true — there is transportation cost.

Count to 10 on August 13, 2012 at 6:32 PM

Wish my gasoline cost wasn’t set by the cost of corn and the amount of ethanol that needs to be in gasoline.

Wish my cost of electricity wasn’t set by the cost of wind power, and the percent of wind power that in the supply mix.

I subsidize the supply and then pay for the higher costs, too.

Somebody seeing a benefit, and it isn’t me.

tomg51 on August 13, 2012 at 5:16 PM

Exactly.

Government needs to get the heck out of Energy it has no place in Energy except to make sure Nuclear Reactors are safe enough to not blow up.

Get rid of all subsidies. They have no place in a free society. They are the opposite of freedom. Either the compete or they do not. Ethanol is the worse you lose 10% mileage with 10% of this crap in your gas. Small engines will not even work with it as it plugs them up. It is a complete utter joke on every American. It sure makes someone rich but the rest of us pay for it. We all pay it truly is Robin Hood in reverse. Steal from all Americans to make a few rich people even richer.

Steveangell on August 13, 2012 at 8:10 PM

Aizen on August 13, 2012 at 4:16 PM

I find it difficult to believe that you’re that easy.

//;-)

Solaratov on August 13, 2012 at 8:18 PM

As a practical matter, there is no such thing as “domestic” or “foreign” oil. Oil is a fungible commodity and will be sold to the highest bidder, whatever their nationality.

MJBrutus on August 13, 2012 at 6:06 PM

Erm, the concern is the seller not the buyer. Ergo “as a practical matter” you’re completely wrong. Demand is finite. Sure it’s dynamic with price, but greater supply leads to lower prices. If the U.S. needs to buy 2 barrels of oil, wouldn’t we rather buy 1 from Iran and 1 from domestic suppliers for $4 each rather than giving a full $10 to get both from Iran and fund their terror? Hmmm $4 of funding terror, or $10 of funding terror… totally “fungible” amiright?? Or maybe the difference between domestic and foreign oil exists and matters.

CapnObvious on August 14, 2012 at 6:12 AM