Seven Paul Ryan poll results that might surprise you

posted at 2:41 pm on August 13, 2012 by Mary Katharine Ham

Take that, Buzzfeed.

The poll result making the rounds right now, finds Paul Ryan is a less popular VP pick than Palin or Cheney (and we all know how many favors that did them in the media), but here are few others that buck the narrative.

Moving in the right direction, from an ABC/Washington Post comparing reaction to Ryan before and after he was added to the ticket:

In weekend interviews 38 percent responded favorably to Ryan joining the Republican ticket, up from 23 percent in pre-selection interviews last week. Positive views rose among independents as well as among Republicans, and among women. And Ryan was notably well-received among senior citizens – a group of interest given his plan to reshape Medicare.

Swing-state seniors, from the Democractic Public Policy Polling’s Ohio poll, released today:

Ryan’s favorability numbers in Ohio are actually *best* with seniors at 38/29

Oldies but goodies, from a Rasmussen poll:

A recent Rasmussen poll showed that 31 percent of likely senior voters gave Ryan a “very favorable” rating, compared with 21 percent of all legal-age voters giving him that rating. Just 16 percent of seniors gave him a “very unfavorable” rating.

The brats & beer vote, also from PPP polling in July:

One thing that could make the state look like much more of a toss up is if Romney chooses Paul Ryan as his running mate. Ryan has a pretty solid 44/39 favorability rating and if he was on the ticket Obama’s lead would decline all the way to 47/46. Ryan’s presence has the effect of further unifying the GOP base around Romney and also helping to bring some more independent voters into the fold.

Polling all the facts, ma’am:

A Wall Street Journal/NBC poll from June 2011 asked Americans if they would be more likely or less likely to vote for a candidate who “supports changing Medicare for those under 55 to a system where people choose their insurance from a list of private health plans and the government pays a fixed amount, sometimes called a voucher, towards that cost.” Thirty-eight percent of Americans said they were more likely to vote for a candidate who supports such a reform reform, while 37 percent said they were less likely to vote for that candidate. Eighteen percent said it made “no difference” in determining their vote, and 7 percent were not sure.

Gauging senioritis, from an April 2011 Gallup poll:

The poll finds 48 percent of seniors (those 65 and over) support Ryan’s plan over President Obama’s plan, while 42 percent back the president.

That’s the highest total among the age groups tested – a 47 percent plurality between the ages of 50 and 64 backed Ryan, and a 45 percent plurality of those between 30-49 backed Ryan. But young voters overwhelmingly sided with Obama by a 23-point margin, 53 to 30 percent.

And, finally, Democrat polling outfit Democracy Corps polled how voters respond to something akin to Ryan’s own description of his plan. The result? 52-37 in favor of the plan. Granted, that poll result assumes Ryan’s explanation of his plan breaks through with voters, but his ability to explain is part of why he was added to the ticket.

I was in Colorado this weekend and kept hearing from folks who are looking for distillations of election issues in one place, so they can take those messages to their friends and family. So, here you go. Some of the best work from political obsessives on the facts of a Ryan pick and the fights to come. The Top 5 Top 5 lists on Paul Ryan. Like I said, take that, Buzzfeed:

From the Free Beacon: The Top 5 outrageous Democrat attacks on Ryan’s plan

From Townhall‘s Guy Benson: Top five facts you need to refute Politifact’s Lie of the Year— that Rep. Paul Ryan’s plan kills Medicare.

The top four search results for Rep. Paul Ryan over the weekend. Awww, yeah.

Via the Washington Post‘s Chris Cillizza, the top five telling details from The New Yorker’s 6,000-word profile on Ryan.

From AEI, three things every voter needs to know about Ryan’s Medicare plan, in 100 words.

Update: More counterintuition, from Roll Call.

Democrats say presumptive GOP vice presidential nominee Rep. Paul Ryan is a senior citizen’s worst nightmare, but retirees seem to have no problem writing him checks.

One of the most prolific fundraisers in Congress, Ryan has drawn nearly $400,000 from retirees this election cycle, dramatically outperforming most House lawmakers, according to data collected by the Center for Responsive Politics.

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Oops I got the link to the ABC poll and posted it elsewhere…

It’s a good one!

Scrumpy on August 13, 2012 at 2:44 PM

Biden making up new lies today and, in typical poor taste, taking a shot at Paul Ryan for losing his father as a teenager. GOP should be all over this pronto.

matthew8787 on August 13, 2012 at 2:44 PM

The poll result making the rounds right now, finds Paul Ryan is a less popular VP pick than Palin or Cheney

Does not compute.

Does not compute.

eeeiiiiiiii

faraway on August 13, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Ryan’s presence has the effect of further unifying the GOP base around Romney and also helping to bring some more independent voters into the fold.

That’s why the Dems are soiling their undies right now. The reason they raised 3 1/2 mil in 24 hours and are drawing 10,000 people to rallies is because Ryan is a rock star with Tea Partiers and conservatives. And that’s who Romney has to get to the polls. Now that the entire base is united behind this ticket(save anymore Andrea Saul episodes), the Dems have to somehow match that enthusiasm and intensity. But Obama’s disastrous record and disgusting excuse for a campaign aren’t the kinds of things that inspire people.

Doughboy on August 13, 2012 at 2:47 PM

From Iowahwak Twitter:

screaming hysterical hecklers at Ryan IA state fair speech rush stage, punch supporters, get arrested. I guess because Ryan’s an extremist.

Barack is losing, and things are about to get really ugly.

Rational Thought on August 13, 2012 at 2:47 PM

Biden making up new lies today and, in typical poor taste, taking a shot at Paul Ryan for losing his father as a teenager. GOP should be all over this pronto.

matthew8787 on August 13, 2012 at 2:44 PM

Biden Invokes Paul Ryan’s Deceased Father to Question VP Candidate’s Values

There’s no gutter they won’t slither into.

Flora Duh on August 13, 2012 at 2:48 PM

The democrats were going to run against Ryan on the downtickets….

Ryan was a good pick glad to see the media is on Hopium about him being toxic.

harlekwin15 on August 13, 2012 at 2:48 PM

Biden Invokes Paul Ryan’s Deceased Father to Question VP Candidate’s Values

There’s no gutter they won’t slither into.

Flora Duh on August 13, 2012 at 2:48 PM

Hey Slow Joe why didn’t you let Barack know strealing 700 billion from working Americans to get Obamacare was a bad move….YOU were old enough to know better?”

harlekwin15 on August 13, 2012 at 2:49 PM

that picture. XD

Sachiko on August 13, 2012 at 2:51 PM

The poll finds 48 percent of seniors (those 65 and over) support Ryan’s plan over President Obama’s plan

What’s Obama’s plan again? Loot Medicare to fund Obamacare? Do nothing and let Medicare go bankrupt? Print money?

forest on August 13, 2012 at 2:53 PM

…finds Paul Ryan is a less popular VP pick than Palin or Cheney

Wait. I don’t remember being polled.
You mean I’m not the only one?

They must not have polled with a heavy weighting of squishes.

LegendHasIt on August 13, 2012 at 2:53 PM

Does not compute.

eeeiiiiiiii

faraway on August 13, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Nah. Does compute. Americans love a High Plains Drifter, regardless of his manners.

Limerick on August 13, 2012 at 2:54 PM

The top four search results for Rep. Paul Ryan over the weekend. Awww, yeah.

#2 – Because most of us would appreciate God’s artwork.

Lightswitch on August 13, 2012 at 2:55 PM

Exit quotation (MKH): I’m your huckleberry…

ted c on August 13, 2012 at 2:55 PM

Swing-state seniors, from the Democractic Public Policy Polling’s Ohio poll, released today:

Love that term “Democractic”–you certainly got that right!

Paul Ryan is articulate enough that people can and will listen to him and he’ll win them over.

stukinIL4now on August 13, 2012 at 2:55 PM

Biden making up new lies today and, in typical poor taste, taking a shot at Paul Ryan for losing his father as a teenager. GOP should be all over this pronto.

matthew8787 on August 13, 2012 at 2:44 PM

I’m inclined to give Slow Joe the benefit of the doubt since he’s a moron and maybe was unaware that Ryan’s dad passed away when he was a teenager. But after Harry Reid invoked George Romney to go after Mitt on the tax return issue, who really knows with this bunch?

Doughboy on August 13, 2012 at 2:56 PM

Barack is losing, and things are about to get really ugly.

Rational Thought on August 13, 2012 at 2:47 PM

A civil war might actually fix things.

bgibbs1000 on August 13, 2012 at 2:56 PM

From AEI, three things every voter needs to know about Ryan’s Medicare plan, in 100 words.

This is the important link to read and remember.

Thanks for including it, MKH.

INC on August 13, 2012 at 2:57 PM

Biden Invokes Paul Ryan’s Deceased Father to Question VP Candidate’s Values

Flora Duh on August 13, 2012 at 2:48 PM

So is that this year’s democrat theme? Dingy Harry did the same with Romney and the tax return attack.

AZfederalist on August 13, 2012 at 2:58 PM

The most important data point is the lack of a bounce on the Romney-Obama numbers. They are in the same place they were before the announcement.

libfreeordie on August 13, 2012 at 2:58 PM

Fantasy debate moderators:

Mark Levin, Rush, Liz Cheney, ACE of Spades!

Fantasy timeline:

Romney Ryan – 2013-2020

Ryan Rubio – 2021-2028

Rubio West – 2029-2036

That takes me to age 76, and I can proceed towards my grave with a restored America… I hope.

Rixon on August 13, 2012 at 2:59 PM

The democrats were going to run against Ryan on the downtickets….

Ryan was a good pick glad to see the media is on Hopium about him being toxic.

harlekwin15 on August 13, 2012 at 2:48 PM

The base is happy with Ryan as Rush Limbaugh said today.

But not as happy as they were with Palin.

This will help Mitt Romney for a while but the real Mitt will come out and when he does this will all evaporate.

Saul is still working for Mitt. All of his advisers who have said things to antagonize the base still work for him. Now he is denying Sarah a chance to speak at our Convention. I doubt the base will be with Mitt for long. There is no sign they really want the base. They just seem to want to fool the base into thinking they care in the least what the base thinks. Ryan knew Mitt would most likely win the nomination so he said some things to enthuse the base. But the base if far smarter than R & R think. They will wake up.

Come November they will speak clearly when in State after State the Republicans on the down ticket get more votes than Mitt while Mitt loses to the most beatable Democrat since Carter.

Steveangell on August 13, 2012 at 3:00 PM

From AEI’s link:

2. Traditional Medicare fee-for-service would remain available for all. “Premium support”—that is, government funding of private insurance plans chosen by individuals—is an option for those who choose it. No senior would be forced out of the traditional Medicare program against his will.

I didn’t realize they would keep traditional Medicare alive. How in the heck does that help if most people end up choosing traditional Medicare?

Bitter Clinger on August 13, 2012 at 3:00 PM

The most important data point is the lack of a bounce on the Romney-Obama numbers. They are in the same place they were before the announcement.

libfreeordie on August 13, 2012 at 2:58 PM

Bwhahahahahahaha…..you actually spout that the pollsters are so efficient as to have put it all together since RR took the stage?
(Pssssssssstttt….the Acme anvil didn’t actually land on Coyote)

Limerick on August 13, 2012 at 3:01 PM

I didn’t realize they would keep traditional Medicare alive. How in the heck does that help if most people end up choosing traditional Medicare?

Bitter Clinger on August 13, 2012 at 3:00 PM

They might not. With other reforms to health care (repeal of O-care, lifting restrictions on sales across state lines and tort/malpractice reform) private insurance may be even more appealing and affordable.

Rixon on August 13, 2012 at 3:02 PM

Great post, MK!

peski on August 13, 2012 at 3:04 PM

Doughboy on August 13, 2012 at 2:56 PM

No, Biden/staff should know this, and they probably do. I’m sure the WH already had research to go on him, and that it was widely distributed.

When I read Ryan’s Wiki the other day, it stated that not only did Ryan’s father die when he was 16, but Ryan was the one who found him. They footnote to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel:

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/43705747.html

At the age of 16, Ryan found his father dead in bed of a heart attack. He says the period that followed, with his three older siblings away from home, his mother going back to school and a grandmother at home with Alzheimer’s, shaped his attitudes about self-reliance as well as his lifestyle.

For Biden to bring discuss Ryan’s dad in that manner is despicable, and the truth will come out on this pretty quickly, IMO.

INC on August 13, 2012 at 3:04 PM

People are willing to believe anything, especially when the facts are inconvenient.

Dante on August 13, 2012 at 3:05 PM

I’m inclined to give Slow Joe the benefit of the doubt since he’s a moron…

Doughboy on August 13, 2012 at 2:56 PM

For the umpteenth time, they told me if I voted for McCain I’d be putting a moron a heartbeat away from the Presidency…

I don’t give him the benefit of anything, nor do I any doctor who certifies his mental fitness.

Drained Brain on August 13, 2012 at 3:07 PM

The most important data point is the lack of a bounce on the Romney-Obama numbers. They are in the same place they were before the announcement.

libfreeordie on August 13, 2012 at 2:58 PM

Heh. Gonna be a long 80 days for you. Have courage. Stay strong. Mitt has all that lovely cash just ready to go, plus, a brand new rock star, who, I suspect wasn’t a drug addict in his formative years.

a capella on August 13, 2012 at 3:10 PM

They might not. With other reforms to health care (repeal of O-care, lifting restrictions on sales across state lines and tort/malpractice reform) private insurance may be even more appealing and affordable.

Rixon on August 13, 2012 at 3:02 PM

Ohhhh! So they want it to “wither on the vine.” Remember that one?? Can we please have them hit O/B with this? Preferably Newt batting this one.

hoosiermama on August 13, 2012 at 3:14 PM

take look at the stats and check who do lawyers donate the most to, as a group….and that tells you everything you need to know…

jimver on August 13, 2012 at 2:47 PM

Most politicians in DC are lawyers. The right is also culpable on this. Both sides are in cahoots with the media too. The RINOs love their lavish lifestyles as much as the looters on the left.

Schadenfreude on August 13, 2012 at 2:52 PM

i’m afraid you are right about that…there’s a lot of tension out there and one side is desperate and is showing badly…at some point it’s going to turn ugly…

jimver on August 13, 2012 at 3:15 PM

Excellent work MKH.

I still say we should leave AP the eeyore on an island somewhere and put you in the top slot beside Ed.

Love my Ham!

R2/2012

Wolfmoon on August 13, 2012 at 3:17 PM

The most important data point is the lack of a bounce on the Romney-Obama numbers. They are in the same place they were before the announcement.

libfreeordie on August 13, 2012 at 2:58 PM

Still bitterly clinging to your religion……?

itsspideyman on August 13, 2012 at 3:18 PM

i’m afraid you are right about that…there’s a lot of tension out there and one side is desperate and is showing badly…at some point it’s going to turn ugly…

jimver on August 13, 2012 at 3:15 PM

I can tell you this, much to my chagrin and frustration; my lawyers are constantly pushing me to support ocommie and the leftists, and I refuse. Their opposition to torte reform is palpable, and it stinks.

Makes me SICK that I have needed to have a set of lawyers like this for the last decade.

Wolfmoon on August 13, 2012 at 3:19 PM

As Rush said on his show today, not direct quotes, bho/biden are out saying what a nice guy Ryan is but letting axy, dws, bhopress do the dirty work aganinst Ryan?

bho/biden can’t have it both ways, but they sure the heck will try?
L

letget on August 13, 2012 at 3:19 PM

The most important data point is the lack of a bounce on the Romney-Obama numbers. They are in the same place they were before the announcement.

libfreeordie on August 13, 2012 at 2:58 PM

It’s one day after the weekend announcment, , idiot…do you really think that they had time to run serious surveys in ummm…less than one day? Now how dumb can you be, you say you are some sort of a lecturer in social sciences (well, sort of, if you put gender studies under the broad social sciences umbrella) you should be familiar with quantitative methods/ surveys etc, and the time involved in designing a good survey that produce reliable results…

jimver on August 13, 2012 at 3:21 PM

The top four search results for Rep. Paul Ryan over the weekend. Awww, yeah.

Out: President Slowjam OPrezzy.

In: Vice President Ry-Dreamy.

Fun fact: Ryan belonged to the same Miami University frat (Delta Tau Delta) as Bill Hemmer of Fox News, though a few after Hemmer.

BuckeyeSam on August 13, 2012 at 3:21 PM

a capella on August 13, 2012 at 3:10 PM

You were kind and gentle and will be loved and remembered for the most epic smackdown of the year.

docflash on August 13, 2012 at 3:22 PM

I’m inclined to give Slow Joe the benefit of the doubt since he’s a moron and maybe was unaware that Ryan’s dad passed away when he was a teenager. But after Harry Reid invoked George Romney to go after Mitt on the tax return issue, who really knows with this bunch?

Doughboy on August 13, 2012 at 2:56 PM

I wouldn’t give any benefit of the doubt.

Slow Joe might be a moron, but he should know how to read/do research before saying such crap.

Aizen on August 13, 2012 at 3:22 PM

The Dems’ plan was likely to be to distort the Ryan plan, whack the Romney ticket with it, and when Romney responds, fire back with, “well, did you ASK Paul Ryan?” Paul Ryan actually being on the ticket kind of killed that.

Hopefully, seniors will think of their grandkids, rather than just thinking of their benefits. Ryan’s plan does take into account the fact that many seniors planned financially around the availability of Medicare and Social Security, and it’s too hard to ask them to throw those plans away this late in the game.

Sekhmet on August 13, 2012 at 3:26 PM

I can tell you this, much to my chagrin and frustration; my lawyers are constantly pushing me to support ocommie and the leftists, and I refuse. Their opposition to torte reform is palpable, and it stinks.

Makes me SICK that I have needed to have a set of lawyers like this for the last decade.

Wolfmoon on August 13, 2012 at 3:19 PM

Well, most lawyers are on that side of the political isle, and everybody knows it…chances are that we all end up sooner or later with a leftist as personal lawyer, or business consultant, as much as we hate this..but it is most unfortunate indeed that we end up paying the big buck to people that we detest and despise..thing is I can’t run a survey around and choose lawyers of rightist persuasion, if it happens, it’s mainly coincidence or fluke…

jimver on August 13, 2012 at 3:28 PM

Is that Iowahawk twitter for real, people rushed the stage?

Bishop on August 13, 2012 at 3:29 PM

Hey libfreakordie , It’s only been two days. As much as you want us to believe you are gleeful of this pick, I’m pretty sure your Messiah is soiling his pants …

sandee on August 13, 2012 at 3:35 PM

The top four search results for Rep. Paul Ryan over the weekend. Awww, yeah.

Now that is just shocking. And I for one think we need to get out in front of this by tracking down these pictures and vewing them before they fall into the wrong hands. For the country.

magicbeans on August 13, 2012 at 3:36 PM

Then, in April 2011, two days before Ryan’s budget passed the House, Obama ripped the proposal in a speech at George Washington University. The move surprised and irked Ryan:

Ryan sat in the front row as the President shredded his plan. “I believe it paints a vision of our future that’s deeply pessimistic,” Obama said. “There’s nothing serious about a plan that claims to reduce the deficit by spending a trillion dollars on tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires. And I don’t think there’s anything courageous about asking for sacrifice from those who can least afford it and don’t have any clout on Capitol Hill.”
Ryan seemed genuinely shocked. During a radio interview later in the day, he complained that Obama had called him “un-American,” and he objected to the charge that he was “pitting children with autism or Down syndrome against millionaires and billionaires” and “ending America as we know it.” Ryan told me, “I was expecting some counteroffer of some kind. What we got was the gauntlet of demagoguery.”

This will be very personal.

Schadenfreude on August 13, 2012 at 3:41 PM

1. No one over the age of 55 would be affected in any way.

2. Traditional Medicare fee-for-service would remain available for all. “Premium support”—that is, government funding of private insurance plans chosen by individuals—is an option for those who choose it. No senior would be forced out of the traditional Medicare program against his will.

3. Overall funding for Medicare under the Ryan-Wyden plan is scheduled to grow at the same rate as under President Obama’s proposals. Is this “gutting Medicare” and “ending Medicare as we know it”? In reality, it’s the market giving seniors cheaper, higher quality choices they can take if they wish, with the traditional program remaining an option.

Schadenfreude on August 13, 2012 at 3:44 PM

This will be very personal.

Schadenfreude on August 13, 2012 at 3:41 PM

I remember that. BHO despises many, but IMO Ryan and Palin have gotten under BHO’s skin more than any other politician.

INC on August 13, 2012 at 3:45 PM

That’s why the Romney campaign needs to come out strong. They need to point out that it was President Obama, not Romney, who cut $700 billion from Medicare to fund other priorities. Listening to Democrat Debbie Wasserman-Schultz on the Sunday shows, you’d think it was the other way around.

Charlatanry s/b punished.

Schadenfreude on August 13, 2012 at 3:45 PM

I remember that. BHO despises many, but IMO Ryan and Palin have gotten under BHO’s skin more than any other politician.

INC on August 13, 2012 at 3:45 PM

Schadenfreude on August 13, 2012 at 3:46 PM

Schadenfreude on August 13, 2012 at 3:46 PM

You might want to add Cantor and Issa to that list.

thatsafactjack on August 13, 2012 at 3:48 PM

The most important data point is the lack of a bounce on the Romney-Obama numbers. They are in the same place they were before the announcement.

libfreeordie on August 13, 2012 at 2:58 PM

The ticket’s only been in place 2 days. The majority of all polls are done over a 3 day cycle.

F-

Del Dolemonte on August 13, 2012 at 3:48 PM

People are willing to believe anything, especially when the facts are inconvenient.

Dante on August 13, 2012 at 3:05 PM

“I don’t believe the Judge!”

Del Dolemonte on August 13, 2012 at 3:49 PM

The ticket’s only been in place 2 days. The majority of all polls are done over a 3 day cycle.

F-

Del Dolemonte on August 13, 2012 at 3:48 PM

Once again proving the ‘professor’ to be an idiot.

A+

Schadenfreude on August 13, 2012 at 3:50 PM

Schadenfreude on August 13, 2012 at 3:46 PM

It’s one reason I’m glad that Romney chose Ryan. Ryan will be an infuriating source of no ending irritation to BHO, because Ryan can winsomely whack with the facts, and BHO reverts to open petulance and pettiness. If BHO can’t bring himself under control, this will kill whatever ‘likeability’ appeal he has to some.

INC on August 13, 2012 at 3:50 PM

You might want to add Cantor and Issa to that list.

thatsafactjack on August 13, 2012 at 3:48 PM

You mean INC, but noted :)

Schadenfreude on August 13, 2012 at 3:51 PM

Is that Iowahawk twitter for real, people rushed the stage?

Bishop on August 13, 2012 at 3:29 PM

Oh, yeah. It’s true. Good thing these radical, violent barack supporters weren’t armed.

WHEN WILL THE MEDIA CONDEMN RADICAL DEMOCRAT VIOLENCE??!!

Rational Thought on August 13, 2012 at 3:51 PM

I’ve heard he’s a decent guy who likes to sprinkle fairy dust.

Kissmygrits on August 13, 2012 at 3:52 PM

INC on August 13, 2012 at 3:50 PM

There is Schadenfreude in it…all without a prompter too.

Schadenfreude on August 13, 2012 at 3:52 PM

A new Super PAC to fight the smears against Ryan, chaired by Ken Blackwell:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/08/12/New-SuperPAC-Launched-to-Defend-Paul-Ryan-Against-Leftist-Distortions

Naturally Curly on August 13, 2012 at 3:55 PM

I have to chuckle at the leftist victims of the dumbed down education system. They don’t have much of a chance of perpetuating their BS here on HotAir.

And a self proclaimed professor on top of it all? *rofl*. What a joke. I bet they’ve even come to believe the crap they spew.

Wolfmoon on August 13, 2012 at 3:55 PM

Rational Thought on August 13, 2012 at 2:47 PM

Those must have been Tea Partiers. You know how readily disposed to violence they are.

/s

MJBrutus on August 13, 2012 at 3:56 PM

The barack campaign is going to send violent, stage-rushing hecklers to every Romney-Ryan event because they are in a TOTAL PANIC over the crowd sizes R & R are pulling in.

Rational Thought on August 13, 2012 at 3:56 PM

The must see Ryan v Biden video http://tinyurl.com/9jx36w4

SWalker on August 13, 2012 at 4:01 PM

The most important data point is the lack of a bounce on the Romney-Obama numbers. They are in the same place they were before the announcement.

libfreeordie on August 13, 2012 at 2:58 PM

…it scares the b-jeepers out of me that an individual who pretends to know and involve themselves… so much in the mechanization of politics…is such a ditzy spongebrained dunce… and teaches kids! Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi would be teachers of the year compared to you!
No wonder home schooling has become so pronounced year after year.

KOOLAID2 on August 13, 2012 at 4:03 PM

Is that Iowahawk twitter for real, people rushed the stage?

Bishop on August 13, 2012 at 3:29 PM

From CBS (A dubious source, I know):

(CBS News) DES MOINES, Iowa — Rep. Paul Ryan, whom Mitt Romney’s campaign plans to deploy heavily in Iowa, was greeted on Monday with resistance from an aggressive group of hecklers at his first solo campaign stop at the Iowa State Fair.

Just minutes after the Wisconsin congressman began speaking, protesters began yelling questions at Ryan about whether he was going to cut Medicaid and demanding he stop waging a “war on the poor.” As the heckling rose to a fever pitch — and the crowd started jeering — two women tried to rush the stage. They got within at least five feet of Ryan before security guards removed them.

Ryan kept his cool but suggested that the protestors lacked Midwestern civility.

“It’s funny, because Iowans and Wisconsinites we like to be respectful of one another and peaceful with one another and listen to each other,” he said. “These guys must not be from Iowa or Wisconsin.”

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on August 13, 2012 at 4:03 PM

Hey Slow Joe why didn’t you let Barack know strealing 700 billion from working Americans to get Obamacare was a bad move….YOU were old enough to know better?”

harlekwin15 on August 13, 2012 at 2:49 PM

By the way, how is that even legal to steal from one government program to pay for another? Anyone?

Can President Romney steal from the EPA to fund Defense?

slickwillie2001 on August 13, 2012 at 4:03 PM

Alice Rivlin worked with Ryan on the budget plan.She was in Clintons and Obamas cabinet and is a hard core democrat if Im not mistaken.Why isn’t this tidbit brought up by the MSM?

docflash on August 13, 2012 at 4:07 PM

Naturally Curly, that crowd control e-mail is hilarious. Thanks for sharing.

Schadenfreude on August 13, 2012 at 4:07 PM

The ticket’s only been in place 2 days. The majority of all polls are done over a 3 day cycle.

F-

Del Dolemonte on August 13, 2012 at 3:48 PM

Although I’ve always suspected some of the ‘results’ are in the can within 15 minutes.

BigWyo on August 13, 2012 at 4:07 PM

(CBS News) DES MOINES, Iowa — Rep. Paul Ryan, whom Mitt Romney’s campaign plans to deploy heavily in Iowa, was greeted on Monday with resistance from an aggressive group of hecklers at his first solo campaign stop at the Iowa State Fair.

Just minutes after the Wisconsin congressman began speaking, protesters began yelling questions at Ryan about whether he was going to cut Medicaid and demanding he stop waging a “war on the poor.” As the heckling rose to a fever pitch — and the crowd started jeering — two women tried to rush the stage. They got within at least five feet of Ryan before security guards removed them.

Ryan kept his cool but suggested that the protestors lacked Midwestern civility.

“It’s funny, because Iowans and Wisconsinites we like to be respectful of one another and peaceful with one another and listen to each other,” he said. “These guys must not be from Iowa or Wisconsin.”

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on August 13, 2012 at 4:03 PM

These stupid liberal hecklers apparently have never heard of something called “Iowa Nice”… In Iowa and most Midwestern states politeness is extremely important… Howard Dean lost Iowa because he was rude to a person who asked him a question in a townhall meeting. Anyway Obama is not going to win Iowa this year…

mnjg on August 13, 2012 at 4:31 PM

More on the violent Ryan hecklers. How come I’m not surprised she’s a tatted-up member of the Obama Youth, just out fightin’ for her free sh*t.

Rational Thought on August 13, 2012 at 4:45 PM

The USA Today/Gallup poll is a joke.

The report on the poll notes that:

“USA TODAY/Gallup polls of registered voters after the announcements of running mates since Dick Cheney in 2000 all showed more positive reactions.”

Two sentences later comes the punchline:

“The Ryan poll includes all adults, not just registered voters.”

Given that registered voters tend to poll more favorably towards dems, and adults more favorably towards dems than registered voters, the only thing this poll tells us is that someone was interested in producing this exact result.

Also of note is the fact that no link is provided from the story to the actual poll results, nor is any information provided on the partisan breakdown (D/R/I) of those polled.

Doing a quick web search shows that a good many newspapers used the poll as a story hook, which is likely the whole point. The “voters aren’t thrilled about Ryan” meme must be created!

Never mind the thousands streaming to Romney/Ryan rallies, and the hundreds being turned away because they can’t be screened fast enough…nothing to see there…move along.

seeker on August 13, 2012 at 4:47 PM

More on the violent Ryan hecklers. How come I’m not surprised she’s a tatted-up member of the Obama Youth, just out fightin’ for her free sh*t.

Rational Thought on August 13, 2012 at 4:45 PM

Whoa!! Corn-fed…yikes..

BigWyo on August 13, 2012 at 4:54 PM

I would have fallen asleep at the voting booth hand it been Pawlenty or Portman.
Now I’m wide awake!

Think Biden will rip him apart in the debate? He’s got a nasty mouth. Hoping its the other way around.

Why was Fox excluded from the Presidential debates; who predetermines that? Now there are all liberals running the show with 1 agenda: re-elect Obama.

Belle on August 13, 2012 at 4:55 PM

THE ONLY KILLER AD NEEDED FOR ROMNEY/RYAN:

(30 second spot, NO sound, just FOUR WORDS on the screen…)

GOOGLE: “Joe Biden” shirtless
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President Romney, VP Ryan, IN THE BAG

Czar of Defenestration on August 13, 2012 at 5:05 PM

Why can’t Progs realise that Social Security and Medicare are UNSUSTAINABLE -even Obama agrees – and something MUST be done? Further, why can they not understand that their utopian math of tax-the-evil-rich + cut-defence-to-the-bone = problem solved is fantastical, which smart Democrats, who have taken the time to actually study the issues and run the numbers, understand?

Grow up, already. I am perfectly willing to have a future where Medicare and Social Security are no longer in existence because they were breaking the government’s bank. I’m even willing — once Obama leaves the White House and I can end my capital/professional strike — to return to work and pay for your Social Security and Medicare without complaint.

What I am not willing to do is to allow you to continue sticking your heads in the sand and your fingers in your ears while screaming “La la la la, I can’t hear you!” and demand the status quo or even more as the collective country is on a runaway train heading off the cliff.

I will pay for your SS/MC, but you are going to have to accept some changes (Why are Progressives so afraid of change?) so that you don’t take the whole damn country down with your selfishness.

Resist We Much on August 13, 2012 at 5:25 PM

Progressives afraid of change? I don’t see it that way. They are fearful of losing the entitlement mentality which glues their voter base together.
I’m also willing to have a future without Medicare & S.S., but most voters, sadly, are not (just my opinion, no facts).
It’s how much can you give me, not what can I independently produce. Sad, we’ve come to this.
What monster have so many become? I’m thinking Greece II.

Belle on August 13, 2012 at 6:05 PM

Rational Thought on August 13, 2012 at 4:45 PM

And obviously a Tea Partier.

/s

MJBrutus on August 13, 2012 at 6:07 PM

Well, now I must see Paul Ryan shirtless.

Thanks Hot Air!

P.S. What is it with the hot GOP veeps lately?

disa on August 13, 2012 at 6:11 PM

Resist We Much on August 13, 2012 at 5:25 PM

Try explaining that by severely cutting back the budget in time will hopefully prevent us going over the cliff. They’ll still say “lalala I can’t hear you, Obama is awesome.”

disa on August 13, 2012 at 6:15 PM

OT
I’m watching Special Report with Bret Baier and they’re discussing Ryan’s Medicare proposal and how it will affect only people under 55. I thought Medicare was for people over 65 only. Why are they talking about people under 55? Are people between 55 and 65 eligible under special circumstances?

Riddle me.

timberline on August 13, 2012 at 6:59 PM

OT
I’m watching Special Report with Bret Baier and they’re discussing Ryan’s Medicare proposal and how it will affect only people under 55. I thought Medicare was for people over 65 only. Why are they talking about people under 55? Are people between 55 and 65 eligible under special circumstances?

Riddle me.

timberline on August 13, 2012 at 6:59 PM

People get older.

So this would not effect any Retiree for 12 years or so. They would have a choice Medicare or Private Insurance.

Steveangell on August 13, 2012 at 7:37 PM

timberline on August 13, 2012 at 6:59 PM

Those are the people who will be offered the option to transfer into a private insurance provider.

flytier on August 13, 2012 at 7:42 PM

MKH! There is somethings about Medicare that no one but Seniors seem to understand.

You work all your life for retirement benefits. I spent nearly 30 years in the Army so that I would have the best medical care for my wife and myself in VA, Military Hospitals or Tri-Care for life. That is until you turn 65, then the Government says you must take Medicare as your primary coverage. It is mandatory. If you chose not to, then you will forfeit all Social Security benefits (even though you paid into the fund), for the rest of your natural life. For my family that is nearly $24,000/year we would give up just to say we do not want the government program.

Medicare covers less and costs more then any other program. If the medical establishment does not except the medicare payment they can come after you for the difference.

Who wins on this? It seems that it’s the Unions. Now that you are off their roles after you turn 65. They also get to keep all that money you contributed for all those years.

jpcpt03 on August 13, 2012 at 11:44 PM