Palin: Ryan pick makes this an election of competing visions

posted at 5:01 pm on August 12, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Yesterday, after some attempt to stir trouble between the Mitt Romney/Paul Ryan campaign and Sarah Palin, Palin herself wrote a lengthy congratulations to Team Romney over the addition of Paul Ryan to the GOP ticket.  The selection of the Republican Party’s best thinker on fiscal policy and entitlement reform makes it clear that the election will give voters a clear choice between competing visions for the nation.  Palin focused mostly on the vision presented by the Obama/Biden ticket, which she accurately describes as “California, minus the beautiful scenery and warm weather”:

Obama’s America is today’s California – complete with $100 billion taxpayer funded bullet trains to nowhere; out of control environmental extremists who have destroyed family farms and left some of the most fertile farm land in America fallow in order to protect a three inch fish; permanent high unemployment; government policies hostile to small business job creators; crippling high taxes; an abysmal real estate market; bloated government that wastes taxpayer money; endless budget shortfalls due to massive unfunded liabilities; city after city declaring bankruptcy; and a state government run by, in the words of one Wall Street Journal writer, “a brothel of environmentalists, lawyers, public-sector unions and legislative bums.”

We can’t afford Obama’s vision. Our children can’t afford it. Today we are over $15 trillion in debt and running up trillion dollar budget deficits year after year for as far as the eye can see. And our “leaders” have no plan to stop it! President Obama and this Congress don’t even have the fundamental blueprint—a budget!—to outline where they intend to take us as they merrily roll along with their out of control spending and constant increases of our debt “limit.” Our debt to China alone is more than we can ever hope to pay off in multiple generations. Such debt and dependence on foreign nations weakens us in countless ways. And yet our government keeps on spending despite the risks and despite conscientious, hardworking citizens telling them to just stop it. Our debt is growing by $3 million per minute. This debt, in conjunction with Obama’s massive government over-reaches like Obamacare, has strangled the private sector, which in turn has stifled job growth and slowed all economic growth. The only way to get our country moving again is to get back to basics like normal people do with our home and small business budgets! That means we must live within our means, get government out of the way of our job creators, develop the God-given natural resources we have been blessed with to provide real jobs and real energy security, and stop growing government and wasting taxpayer money on D.C. cronyism and useless stimulus kick-backs for favored donors.

Barack Obama’s record is one of dismal failure, which is why he isn’t talking about it. He would rather spend his time demonizing his opponents. The simple fact remains that Mitt Romney is not responsible for the dire state of our economy or the corruption and incompetence of the current administration.

This is, I believe, why Romney chose Ryan as his running mate: to refocus the election on substance and issues.  Already we’re seeing Obama’s surrogates fanning out on the morning talk shows to paint Ryan as anti-woman and anti-working class, but that will change when the debate shifts to Ryan’s proposals for entitlement reform.  To attack those, Obama and his campaign have to talk specifics, and Ryan will be well prepared for that — and as we’ve seen in the past, more prepared than Obama or his team.

As I wrote for CNN in a column published last night, Romney has declared an end to silly season, and will force Obama to start defending his own record:

Democrats may be licking their chops, believing that Ryan’s unpopular budget plan will be a millstone around Romney’s neck. However, Democrats would have hung the Ryan plan on Romney no matter who got the VP nod, and no one explains the need for budgetary reform better than Ryan himself. In fact, hardly anyone will talk specifically about how to accomplish budgetary reform. Ryan is one of the few who have risked proposing a roadmap for entitlement reform. Ryan’s plan looks far past the “Taxmageddon” or “fiscal cliff” at the end of this year, to the “fiscal gap” facing the United States over the next 75 years, where our current path puts us on a trajectory to have $222 trillion more in liabilities than revenue.

Barack Obama and the Democratic Party have no serious proposal to deal with long-term debt. The plan Obama has to “pay down the debt” in a “balanced” way would add $6.4 trillion in deficits between 2013 and 2022, according to the Congressional Budget Office.

Democrats’ idea of budgetary reform is to demand an increase in taxes on people making more than $250,000 a year — a policy that the Tax Foundation, a research group that favors lower taxes, says would produce $40 billon a year in new revenue, in budgets with trillion-dollar annual deficits. …

And speaking of seriousness, let’s not forget that the Democratic-controlled Senate has gone more than 1,200 days without passing its own budget. Ryan, who chairs the House Budget Committee, has at least fulfilled the legal obligation for annual budget resolutions in the lower chamber, but he’s gone far beyond that to provide leadership on the long-term fiscal crisis facing the nation.

That contrast led to a confrontation last February between Ryan and Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner over the lack of long-term solutions coming from the White House, in which Geithner finally told Ryan, “We don’t have a definitive solution to the long term problem. What we do know is, we don’t like yours…”

More than anything else, the pick of the GOP’s top thinker on fiscal policy demonstrates leadership, while Geithner’s vacuous response in February demonstrates the lack of leadership in the Obama administration.  They’re out of ideas.  Romney and Ryan aren’t.  If the campaign comes down to Broad Ideas for Fiscal Reform vs Look A Squirrel, Democrats won’t be licking their chops for long.

John Tamny at Forbes wrote this weekend that Ryan was the only choice Romney had if he wants to make this election about the economy, and the safest as well:

Media accounts will suggest that the Ryan pick had a bold, go-for-broke quality to it, but in truth Ryan was the safest selection of all.

He was the safest because in an election all about the U.S. economy, Ryan is the most suited among the names floated to make a strong case for removing the barriers to economic growth erected by Republican (George W. Bush) and Democratic (Barack Obama) administrations over the last 12 years. Romney himself, though a smashing success as a businessman, has struggled to make a coherent economic argument; his 59 point economic plan all the evidence one needs that the GOP presidential nominee needs help tightening up what should be a very simple economic message.

Paul Ryan could make the above arguments in his sleep, and for being able to, he was the only – and once again the safest – choice for Romney. This column for quite some time has said President Obama’s time in the White House will amount to four years, and the pick of Ryan makes that even more certain.

And Timothy Dalrymple makes the case that Romney chose the best man for the actual job, and not just for the campaign:

George W. Bush did not choose Dick Cheney because he was a brilliant campaigner; he was not.  He chose Dick Cheney because he believed that Cheney would help him govern well.  Similarly, Mitt Romney has an eye not only toward winning the power of the presidency, but toward leveraging that power to put American back on a sound financial footing.

It always frustrates me when people speak of the calculus of the VP pick solely in terms of electability.  The choice of a Vice President ought to be about more than winning.  It ought to be about putting together the best possible team for the good of the country.  It ought to be less about doing yourself a favor and more about doing right by the country.  With Romney’s experience in business and the governor’s office, and Ryan’s experience in legislation and budget, they do make a compelling “Comeback Team” for America as it weathers some of the worst economic storms in generations.

Silly season is over.  It’s time to get back to the serious work of reforming the federal government, and the first reform is making Barack Obama a one-term President.


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This is from a Matt Lewis column a few years ago about Paul Ryan:

Though he talks like Nobel Prize-winning economist Milton Friedman, some of Ryan’s most high-profile votes seem closer to Keynes than to Adam Smith. For example, in the span of about a year, Ryan committed fiscal conservative apostasy on three high-profile votes: The Troubled Asset Relief Program, or TARP (whereby the government purchased assets and equity from financial institutions), the auto-bailout (which essentially implied he agrees car companies – especially the ones with an auto plant in his district—are too big to fail), and for a confiscatory tax on CEO bonuses (which essentially says the government has the right to take away private property—if it doesn’t like you).

While Ryan’s overall voting record is very conservative, the problem with casting these high-profile votes is that they demonstrate he is willing to fundamentally reject conservatism when the heat is on.

Because it is impossible to believe the highly intelligent and well read Rep. Ryan was unfamiliar with conservative economic principles, one must conclude he either 1). Doesn’t really believe in free market economics, or 2). Was willing to cast bad votes for purely political purposes.

Dr. Tesla on August 12, 2012 at 7:28 PM

Ryan is an establishment republican that votes with leadership 100% of the time. Fiscal Ryan has voted for Tarp, debt increases etc.. In short, he talks a good game but he’s a spender.

Romneycare is a liberal, Ryan is a spender. Obama is a commie and Biden is a moron. These are my choices to lead the country for the next 4 years.

My real two choices are to vote for the liberal (romneycare) and the spender (ryan) or sit. My views are closest to Gov. palin.

How they treat her will go a long way in what I do in Nov.. First up do they give her a prime speaking slot at the convention. Then does romneycare/ryan and their lapdogs respect her or do they thrash her like romneycare and his supporters have been done for 4 years. I’ll be watching!
Danielvito on August 12, 2012 at 7:24 PM

She’s not speaking at all at the convention. Just hit the news about an hour ago. Whether it was her decision or Romney’s, who knows.

bgibbs1000 on August 12, 2012 at 7:29 PM

This is from a Matt Lewis column a few years ago about Paul Ryan:

Though he talks like Nobel Prize-winning economist Milton Friedman, some of Ryan’s most high-profile votes seem closer to Keynes than to Adam Smith. For example, in the span of about a year, Ryan committed fiscal conservative apostasy on three high-profile votes: The Troubled Asset Relief Program, or TARP (whereby the government purchased assets and equity from financial institutions), the auto-bailout (which essentially implied he agrees car companies – especially the ones with an auto plant in his district—are too big to fail), and for a confiscatory tax on CEO bonuses (which essentially says the government has the right to take away private property—if it doesn’t like you).

While Ryan’s overall voting record is very conservative, the problem with casting these high-profile votes is that they demonstrate he is willing to fundamentally reject conservatism when the heat is on.

Because it is impossible to believe the highly intelligent and well read Rep. Ryan was unfamiliar with conservative economic principles, one must conclude he either 1). Doesn’t really believe in free market economics, or 2). Was willing to cast bad votes for purely political purposes.

Dr. Tesla on August 12, 2012 at 7:28 PM

Expect this level or higher of concern trolling from now till election day.

Democrats have one chance, aside from outright cheating, to win the election this fall.

Republican voter suppression.

They will say and do anything to make republicans feel defeated, overwhelmed, and hopeless.

Obama must be defeated.

tom daschle concerned on August 12, 2012 at 7:32 PM

The selection of the Republican Party’s best thinker on fiscal policy and entitlement reform makes it clear that the election will give voters a clear choice between competing visions for the nation.

Too funny.

Almost as funny as “competing visions”.

Biden, Obama, and Ryan all supported and voted for TARP
Biden, Obama, and Ryan supported/voted for the auto bailouts
Biden, Obama, and Ryan supported/voted for confiscating CEO bonuses
Biden, Obama, and Ryan supported/voted for raising the debt ceiling
Biden, Obama, and Ryan supported/voted for increased spending
Biden, Obama, and Ryan supported/voted for eliminating Senate confirmation for presidential appts.

Yeah … “competing visions” all right.

Good ol’ water-carrying Ed.

Dante on August 12, 2012 at 7:34 PM

He has already claimed to be in a different boat. A boat that reaks reeks of choom smoke.

cozmo on August 12, 2012 at 7:23 PM

Relevance continues to escape you, eh? Best go get a refund from your liberal education.

DannoJyd on August 12, 2012 at 7:35 PM

Expect this level or higher of concern trolling from now till election day.

Obama must be defeated.

tom daschle concerned on August 12, 2012 at 7:32 PM

Yep, the 0bama love is strong in the ABR nutballs.

cozmo on August 12, 2012 at 7:35 PM

@Dashole,

I’m not trying to supresse anything, just some of the gushing over Paul Ryann has always annoyed me and this was prior to him being picked. He’s really kind of weak on fiscal issues when it comes time to vote on them.

Dr. Tesla on August 12, 2012 at 7:36 PM

DannoJyd on August 12, 2012 at 7:35 PM

Shucks honey, I couldn’t find one of those librul schools down here. Y’all like to keep them up there in yankeeland.

cozmo on August 12, 2012 at 7:36 PM

@Dashole,

Dr. Tesla on August 12, 2012 at 7:36 PM

Jog off nitwit.

tom daschle concerned on August 12, 2012 at 7:37 PM

That’s very disappointing. But I sense she made a decision from deep within herself, like in deciding not to run in 2012, and she’s at peace with it. She said she can motivate the base other ways. And she’s engaged the whole formal political process and establishment and all of that as much as she possibly can, and at this moment she’s more comfortable “going rogue”, on her own, in her own way. And she’s doing a great job of it.

Paul-Cincy on August 12, 2012 at 7:16 PM

I think it’s a mistake of Romney if she’s not there.

She would draw really high attention because who she is and she could attack Obama much harder than either Romney or Ryan.

the_nile on August 12, 2012 at 7:39 PM

Yeah … “competing visions” all right.

Good ol’ water-carrying Ed.

Dante on August 12, 2012 at 7:34 PM

While you are exactly right that doesn’t help get rid of the 0bamanation.

Today I discovered that the Gary Johnson supporters are excited, organized, polite, and generous. I think it is a dirty shame that I cannot say the same about the stay-at-home Sketchy supporters.

DannoJyd on August 12, 2012 at 7:39 PM

Its right there under the surface isn’t it tesla? That desire to stuff your ideological enemies into boxcars and rush them off to justice? That inner stalin wants to come out so bad, but you are such a gutless coward…

oh well. too bad.

tom daschle concerned on August 12, 2012 at 7:39 PM

If Paul Ryan doesn’t come out with the self promoting Ryan Plan, he probably isn’t picked for VP.

He seems like an ok guy but not really a VP candidate, and if Obama can successfully demonize the Ryan Plan, Romney has no way of distancing himself from the Ryan Plan b/c Ryan is his VP! To me, this was a risky choice, and I would have preferred TPaw despite his global warming heresie b/c TPaw had the executivie experience, or even Jindal.

Dr. Tesla on August 12, 2012 at 7:39 PM

I’m not trying to supresse anything, just some of the gushing over Paul Ryann has always annoyed me

Dr. Tesla on August 12, 2012 at 7:36 PM

Not half as annoyed as we are to see you back here.

JPeterman on August 12, 2012 at 7:40 PM

Shucks honey, I couldn’t find one of those librul schools down here. Y’all like to keep them up there in yankeeland.

cozmo on August 12, 2012 at 7:36 PM

Don’t belittle rednecks. I find them to be self sufficient, reliable, and more competent than the vast majority of smelly city dwellers living in their hives.

DannoJyd on August 12, 2012 at 7:42 PM

@dashole

I’m not threatening anybody, you are being hostile to me. All I said is the truth, Ryan’s record on fiscal issues tends to be pretty bad, especially on high profile stuff. What Romney wanted was somebody who would be “open minded” on tax hikes and spending if Romney decides that is hihs solution.

Dr. Tesla on August 12, 2012 at 7:42 PM

Oh, sh!t. Tesla’s back…

OmahaConservative on August 12, 2012 at 7:42 PM

Not half as annoyed as we are to see you back here.

JPeterman on August 12, 2012 at 7:40 PM

Tesla drew the short straw and its his turn in the barrel.

He is in good company with the 0bama lovin’ ABR nutballs. Even though it is crowded in there, they can “rub the lotion” on each other.

cozmo on August 12, 2012 at 7:43 PM

Don’t belittle rednecks.

DannoJyd on August 12, 2012 at 7:42 PM

Us rednecks know better. We are laughing at you.

cozmo on August 12, 2012 at 7:44 PM

Know who I miss? Santorum. Love him or hate him, he always had something provacative to say.

Dr. Tesla on August 12, 2012 at 7:44 PM

Oh, sh!t. Tesla’s back…

OmahaConservative on August 12, 2012 at 7:42 PM

And wait for it………

Paul Ryan is ghey in 5…4…..3…

JPeterman on August 12, 2012 at 7:45 PM

I wasn’t that hostile to Romney really. For a moderate and gadfly playing both sides, he still doesn’t annoy me like McCain and Graham and others who do the same thing.

Dr. Tesla on August 12, 2012 at 7:46 PM

Romney needs to do three things McCain didn;t do:

1. Let Paul Ryan be Paul Ryan. McCain’s team never let Sarah Palin be herself.

2. Fire incompetents. McCain let Steve Schmidt and the Wallaces remain in control. Team Romney has its incompetents and needs to cut them loose.

3. Insist on live interviews. Katie Couric had more hours of taped interviews with Sarah Palin (compliments of Nicolle Wallace) and used it to their full advantage.

bw222 on August 12, 2012 at 7:46 PM

it will be interesting to see how Romney handles the Obama ads asserting truthfullly that ObamaCare and RomneyCare are same basic idea.

that was why heroes like me and others tried to warn you off Romney b/c we are more or less conceding the issue, but maybe enough voters will think Romney will be different if we vote for him and he will try to repeal it.

Dr. Tesla on August 12, 2012 at 7:49 PM

cozmo on August 12, 2012 at 7:44 PM

From your basement? I don’t think so. Rednecks are always too busy to be bothered with the internet sites.

DannoJyd on August 12, 2012 at 7:50 PM

JPeterman on August 12, 2012 at 7:45 PM

The silence was golden…
(while it lasted)

OmahaConservative on August 12, 2012 at 7:51 PM

I personally see Paul Ryan as being the anti-Palin kind of VP canddiate. Romney wanted somebody who nobody could say is stupid and enough conservatives think he’s balls to the wall conservative so he gets away with his moderate fiscal voting record.

I’m rather surprised McCain didn’t pick Ryan, given t he fact Paul Ryan big thing is wanting to cutt spending and McCain was a deficit hawk in his rhetoric.

Dr. Tesla on August 12, 2012 at 7:52 PM

Silly season is over. It’s time to get back to the serious work of reforming the federal government, and the first reform is making Barack Obama a one-term President.

Amen Mr. Morrissey!

I’m sorry that they chose your recovery period to name the VP nominee but I think you are spot on with your analysis. Obama wants to focus the election on surrogates like Sandra Fluke and Joe Soptic. Anything but jobs and the economy. Adding Ryan to the ticket changes that dynamic in that the only way the enemy can really engage this choice is to take on the very issues they most hope to avoid.

Here in Arlington County (VA) Romney voters are few and far between but there were campaign workers going to the address of every registered Republican because even if Northern Virginia is more Obama, every Romney vote matters in the statewide numbers. That I had Romney supporters show up at my door yesterday is huge. It shows me that the campaign is really serious about winning.

Happy Nomad on August 12, 2012 at 7:52 PM

DannoJyd on August 12, 2012 at 7:50 PM

So now, on top of everything else you are an expert about, you are now an expert on rednecks?

You are certainly stupid about the south. We mostly don’t have basements.

cozmo on August 12, 2012 at 7:53 PM

I don’t think Paul Ryan isi gay but i suspect some of the men here wouldn’t be disappointed if he is gay.

Dr. Tesla on August 12, 2012 at 7:53 PM

The Romney campaign has to distance itself from the last election (failure) and from the media-slander of Sarah Palin. Yes; I hope she’s turned loose to be the attack dog because she still has many who share her views and she can say things that the candidates must be too polite to say.

jatfla on August 12, 2012 at 7:54 PM

it will be interesting to see how Romney handles the Obama ads asserting truthfully that ObamaCare and RomneyCare are same basic idea.

that was why heroes like me and others tried to warn you off Romney b/c we are more or less conceding the issue, but maybe enough voters will think Romney will be different if we vote for him and he will try to repeal it.

Dr. Tesla on August 12, 2012 at 7:49 PM

LMAO@ heroes.

Romney needs to state unequivocally that he will work to get rid of ALL of 0bamacare. Then he needs to STFU about the Individual Mandate.

This remains Romney’s race to lose.

DannoJyd on August 12, 2012 at 7:54 PM

it will be interesting to see how Romney handles the Obama ads asserting truthfullly that ObamaCare and RomneyCare are same basic idea.

Dr. Tesla on August 12, 2012 at 7:49 PM

Romneycare and Obamacare are nothing alike.

Happy Nomad on August 12, 2012 at 7:54 PM

I go off to get something done and it becomes troll central around here

ACK!

gophergirl on August 12, 2012 at 7:55 PM

Dr. Tesla on August 12, 2012 at 7:53 PM

Every once in a while you may be right.

That you would want to point his out is kind of homo-phobic though.

Don’t you think?

cozmo on August 12, 2012 at 7:55 PM

I think it’s a mistake of Romney if she’s not there.

She would draw really high attention because who she is and she could attack Obama much harder than either Romney or Ryan.

the_nile on August 12, 2012 at 7:39 PM

I agree…

But that’s what Romney see’s as a problem, she would draw more attention than him.

idesign on August 12, 2012 at 7:55 PM

The selection of the Republican Party’s best thinker on fiscal policy and entitlement reform…

You mean the best thinker on fiscal policy and entitlement reform, period.

jeffersonschild on August 12, 2012 at 7:55 PM

How disappointing, and yet predictable.

I know what happened. Romney’s people wanted to stage manage everything, including what Palin would say and how she would say it.

So she, being Palin, told Romney to go pound sand. Good for her. At least she has some self-respect.

Palin has taken unheard of grief from the same people who would give Romney, and now Ryan, unheard of grief. The Establishment can’t see past that.

Oh well, I thought Romney was larger than who he really was. Guess not.

Still, he’ll have my vote. Duty call, though. Not like the way I ran out and voted for Palin in ’08.

victor82 on August 12, 2012 at 7:55 PM

And wait for it………

Paul Ryan is ghey in 5…4…..3…

JPeterman on August 12, 2012 at 7:45 PM

Someone mentioned “it” this morning and I was like NOOOO – it’s just like Beetlejuice – never say the name.

gophergirl on August 12, 2012 at 7:56 PM

Romneycare and Obamacare are nothing alike.

Happy Nomad on August 12, 2012 at 7:54 PM

This is like asserting we will live forever. Reality is RomneyCare is worst than Obamacare, at t his point. :)

Dr. Tesla on August 12, 2012 at 7:56 PM

I go off to get something done and it becomes troll central around here

ACK!

gophergirl on August 12, 2012 at 7:55 PM

We’re tryin’ our best to whack them all, but they seem to enjoy it.

cozmo on August 12, 2012 at 7:57 PM

She’s not speaking at all at the convention. Just hit the news about an hour ago. Whether it was her decision or Romney’s, who knows.

bgibbs1000 on August 12, 2012 at 7:29 PM

Sounds like it’s her decision.
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/palin-not-speaking-gop/2012/08/12/id/448327

:(

avagreen on August 12, 2012 at 7:57 PM

You are certainly stupid about the south. We mostly don’t have basements.

cozmo on August 12, 2012 at 7:53 PM

LMAO! So relevant…

I live amongst the farmers in Lower Michigan, and amongst those are more than a few transplants from the southern states. I know them well enough as I often trade/barter with them. My expertise/labor for food/tools/etc… They seem to really like the TEA Party.

One told me I was a pretty good horse trader. I’m still not certain if that was a compliment.

DannoJyd on August 12, 2012 at 7:58 PM

Well with the Supreme Court rulling like they did on ObamaCare, I don’t see Romney leading an effort to overturn it. Those judacial decisions impact what politicians do more than voters like to think.

Dr. Tesla on August 12, 2012 at 7:58 PM

Romney needs to do three things McCain didn;t do:
bw222 on August 12, 2012 at 7:46 PM

Won’t happen. The same kind of fearful flacks (Kevin Madden, anyone?) occupy Romney’s camp. The GOP never changes.

rrpjr on August 12, 2012 at 7:59 PM

Romneycare and Obamacare are nothing alike.

Happy Nomad on August 12, 2012 at 7:54 PM

Jon Gruber, who drafted parts of both Romneycare and Obamacare, might want to have a word with you concerning that assertion.

gryphon202 on August 12, 2012 at 7:59 PM

Kataklysmic on August 12, 2012 at 6:08 PM

Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes are not conservatives. Unlike the libs who run CNN, they are not willing to fall on their sword for the cause. They just want to make as much money as they can. FNC has shifted to the left, added more liberals and has positioned itself just to the right of CNN.

If Murdoch and Ailes thought they could make more money by converting FNC to the Gay Chess Channel, they would be looking for a supporting cast for Shep Smith and Carl Cameron.

bw222 on August 12, 2012 at 8:00 PM

I’m surprised people still talking about Palin at this point. Hard to believe it been 4 years since she was unknown to most of us.

Dr. Tesla on August 12, 2012 at 8:00 PM

I’m not trying to supresse anything, just some of the gushing over Paul Ryann has always annoyed me and this was prior to him being picked. He’s really kind of weak on fiscal issues when it comes time to vote on them.

Dr. Tesla on August 12, 2012 at 7:36 PM

It seems you have a problem with reality…Mr. Tesla…

right2bright on August 12, 2012 at 8:00 PM

I’m still not certain if that was a compliment.

DannoJyd on August 12, 2012 at 7:58 PM

Bless your heart, it sure was sweetie.

cozmo on August 12, 2012 at 8:00 PM

Paul ryan voted for auto bailout, tarp and tax on CEO bonuses, prescription drug entitlement, and other big government measures and then conservatives attack me as a liberal if i point out the truth of his voting record. the voting record is what it is, if you can prove i’m lyng about it then do so or recant your accusations of the veracacity ofmy claims.

Dr. Tesla on August 12, 2012 at 8:03 PM

Someone mentioned “it” this morning and I was like NOOOO – it’s just like Beetlejuice – never say the name.

gophergirl on August 12, 2012 at 7:56 PM

I know, right? QOTD…

OmahaConservative on August 12, 2012 at 8:04 PM

We’re tryin’ our best to whack them all, but they seem to enjoy it.

cozmo on August 12, 2012 at 7:57 PM

You are doing a good job. You have the patience that I would never have that’s for sure.

gophergirl on August 12, 2012 at 8:04 PM

avagreen on August 12, 2012 at 7:57 PM

The reason for this decision/outcome will be most relevant as she has yet to endorse Sketchy.

Somebody really messed up when they lost the chance to have Sarah speak. The ratings for the GOP National Convention will not be better than the one in 2008, and the chance of Romney getting a boost from that has now dropped by double digits.

DannoJyd on August 12, 2012 at 8:05 PM

Dr. Tesla on August 12, 2012 at 8:03 PM

We would rather just let you rant on.

Think of yourself as comedic relief.

cozmo on August 12, 2012 at 8:05 PM

i’m not against paul ryan being VP as he won’t get to vote (except to break a tie maybe, i forgt how that works as VP) and maybe the republican who replaces him will be mmore steadfast fiscally conservative when it time to vote that way. rheotic is good but voting right way even better.

Dr. Tesla on August 12, 2012 at 8:05 PM

Sounds like it’s her decision.
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/palin-not-speaking-gop/2012/08/12/id/448327

:(

avagreen on August 12, 2012 at 7:57 PM

It’s not clear why she’s not speaking.

the_nile on August 12, 2012 at 8:05 PM

You are doing a good job. You have the patience that I would never have that’s for sure.

gophergirl on August 12, 2012 at 8:04 PM

If somebody doesn’t do it, they breed like the rats they are.

cozmo on August 12, 2012 at 8:06 PM

Someone mentioned “it” this morning and I was like NOOOO – it’s just like Beetlejuice – never say the name.

gophergirl on August 12, 2012 at 7:56 PM

It’s official, this thread has been officially Tesla’d.

JPeterman on August 12, 2012 at 8:07 PM

it will be interesting to see how Romney handles the Obama ads asserting truthfullly that ObamaCare and RomneyCare are same basic idea.

that was why heroes like me and others tried to warn you off Romney b/c we are more or less conceding the issue, but maybe enough voters will think Romney will be different if we vote for him and he will try to repeal it.

Dr. Tesla on August 12, 2012 at 7:49 PM

Yes, shooting off your mouth on an anonymous Internet forum is really heroic. (eye roll)

ghostwriter on August 12, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Tesla, you do realize you are nuts, right?

OmahaConservative on August 12, 2012 at 8:08 PM

It’s official, this thread has been officially Tesla’d.

JPeterman on August 12, 2012 at 8:07 PM

Yep – time to go shop on e-bay until a new thread opens up.

gophergirl on August 12, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes are not conservatives. Unlike the libs who run CNN, they are not willing to fall on their sword for the cause. They just want to make as much money as they can. FNC has shifted to the left, added more liberals and has positioned itself just to the right of CNN.

If Murdoch and Ailes thought they could make more money by converting FNC to the Gay Chess Channel, they would be looking for a supporting cast for Shep Smith and Carl Cameron.

bw222 on August 12, 2012 at 8:00 PM

The problem isn’t that they try to make a lot of money , it’s the cowardice to even stand up for themselves when they’re under attack.

the_nile on August 12, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Face palm worthiness right here.

Gingrich: Ryan ‘Really Listens,’ Can Work with Democrats

What. An. Idiot.

JPeterman on August 12, 2012 at 8:10 PM

@ghost

Heroism takes many forms.

Dr. Tesla on August 12, 2012 at 8:13 PM

I am your huckleberry.

Perfect.

petefrt on August 12, 2012 at 8:13 PM

Nice Facebook post by Sarah!..:)

R & R /2012..:)

Dire Straits on August 12, 2012 at 8:14 PM

OmahaConservative on August 12, 2012 at 8:08 PM

No he doesn’t..:)

Dire Straits on August 12, 2012 at 8:15 PM

that Hamm woman sounds like she wants to have sex with Paul Ryan.

I kid I kid

Dr. Tesla on August 12, 2012 at 8:15 PM

Romney/Ryan should do ONLY live interviews and each time ask that Obama do the same!
Ask the Presstitutes, when was the last time Obama gave a press conference and took questions.
When has Obama ever taken questions, not his spokestool the POTUS?

Tomorrow Obama is going to be in IA, tomorrow Ryan is going to be in Iowa, how cool would that be if Ryan borrows Newts playbook and follows Dear Reader wherever he goes rebutting dear Readers Lies at each stop?
How long before Thin Skin blows!

ConcealedKerry on August 12, 2012 at 8:15 PM

It’s official, this thread has been officially Tesla’d.

JPeterman on August 12, 2012 at 8:07 PM

rofl..:)

Dire Straits on August 12, 2012 at 8:15 PM

JPeterman on August 12, 2012 at 8:10 PM

Yet, there are those who thought “Callista and I” would have made a great candidate.

bw222 on August 12, 2012 at 8:17 PM

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Its been a while Dr., how you been?

Bmore on August 12, 2012 at 8:17 PM

I though we were informed by Palin haters that big crowds do not equal votes/electability. So why this talk of big crowds with this Ryan guy.

:)

Dr. Tesla on August 12, 2012 at 8:19 PM

Romney/Ryan should do ONLY live interviews and each time ask that Obama do the same!
Ask the Presstitutes, when was the last time Obama gave a press conference and took questions.
When has Obama ever taken questions, not his spokestool the POTUS?

Tomorrow Obama is going to be in IA, tomorrow Ryan is going to be in Iowa, how cool would that be if Ryan borrows Newts playbook and follows Dear Reader wherever he goes rebutting dear Readers Lies at each stop?
How long before Thin Skin blows!

ConcealedKerry on August 12, 2012 at 8:15 PM

I disagree. Romney and Ryan need to force the issue, and do as many interviews as possible. They need to exploit the MSM scmucks as much as they can. If Obama wants to hide and talk about tax returns through surrogates let him. The contrast will become very stark.

ghostwriter on August 12, 2012 at 8:19 PM

You do realize that most of her ideas are as old as humanity itself, right? And her ideas on the direction of this country are over 200 years old.

No one needs to re-invent the wheel here. There is no need for “original ideas” to get back to what made this country great.

ButterflyDragon on August 12, 2012 at 5:39 PM

+1

RockyJ. on August 12, 2012 at 8:20 PM

I go off to get something done and it becomes troll central around here

ACK!

gophergirl on August 12, 2012 at 7:55 PM

Dems are reeling right now. It takes time to sort out the talking points. So they just tell their minions to post crap.

Happy Nomad on August 12, 2012 at 8:20 PM

I haven’t had time to read the whole thread, but Drudge has a headline that Palin will not speak at the convention. WTH??? Does anyone here know why that may be???

KickandSwimMom on August 12, 2012 at 8:20 PM

at least it wasn’t Huckabee, Mitch Daniels, or the big guy Christie.

I would have gone with mike pence or jindal myself, i think. maybe rubio b/c of florida.

Dr. Tesla on August 12, 2012 at 8:21 PM

Bmore on August 12, 2012 at 8:17 PM

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Holy balls, man. How long did that take ?

listens2glenn on August 12, 2012 at 8:22 PM

tpaw must be bummed out, two eelection cycles in a row he was hoping to get the VP slot and came up with nothing.

Dr. Tesla on August 12, 2012 at 8:24 PM

You do realize that most of her ideas are as old as humanity itself, right? And her ideas on the direction of this country are over 200 years old.

No one needs to re-invent the wheel here. There is no need for “original ideas” to get back to what made this country great.

ButterflyDragon on August 12, 2012 at 5:39 PM

The Left are the ones that are into…..original ideas….and that is what causes everything to go to Hell.

“3. Standing on the shoulders of giants

Third, conservatives believe in what may be called the principle of prescription. Conservatives sense that modern people are dwarfs on the shoulders of giants, able to see farther than their ancestors only because of the great stature of those who have preceded us in time. Therefore conservatives very often emphasize the importance of prescription–that is, of things established by immemorial usage, so that the mind of man runneth not to the contrary……” — Russell Kirk

Palin gets it.

KirknBurker on August 12, 2012 at 8:24 PM

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Holy balls, man. How long did that take ?

listens2glenn on August 12, 2012 at 8:22 PM

Oh, thats not mine, Hat Tip steebo77 .

Bmore on August 12, 2012 at 8:25 PM

tpaw must be bummed out, two eelection cycles in a row he was hoping to get the VP slot and came up with nothing.

Dr. Tesla on August 12, 2012 at 8:24 PM

That’s why he chickened out on “obamneycare” , he was angling for the VP spot.

the_nile on August 12, 2012 at 8:26 PM

Dr. Tesla

……see what happens…when you wonder! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahah!…they’re coming out of the woodwork!
Maybe we can hook him up with turdfreeordie for 3,000 comments.

KOOLAID2 on August 12, 2012 at 8:26 PM

tpaw must be bummed out, two eelection cycles in a row he was hoping to get the VP slot and came up with nothing.

Dr. Tesla on August 12, 2012 at 8:24 PM

Heh. I was thinking that myself . . . and then I thanked the Lord that he never did get the VP slot. :)

KickandSwimMom on August 12, 2012 at 8:26 PM

Whatever all the hullabaloo is about concerning Ryan and the accompanying nit-pickin’ going on, I’m glad he’s in the race and HE’S BETTER THAN OBAMA by 1000% !or to be exact….16,000,000,000x
http://www.usdebtclock.org/

There is no perfect candidate.
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Scott Walker: Ryan Could Tip Wisconsin to GOP
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/scott-walker-ryan-wisconsin/2012/08/12/id/448321

Further……. If the Supply Siders approve of him, what’s to rue?
http://www.supplysideforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=29729&sid=89f6e51ca2d033420fabf94be3990a97#29729

Ryan learned the hard way and so voted against the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009. Video

avagreen on August 12, 2012 at 8:27 PM

I haven’t had time to read the whole thread, but Drudge has a headline that Palin will not speak at the convention. WTH??? Does anyone here know why that may be???

KickandSwimMom on August 12, 2012 at 8:20 PM

It’s up on Gretawire, Romney’s loss….

idesign on August 12, 2012 at 8:27 PM

ghostwriter on August 12, 2012 at 8:19 PM

OK let Romney Ryan do any and all but then they are vulnerable to a slice and dice deal like Palin was, at any rate the idea here is to demand Obama do the same. Make Dear Reader get in front of the Presstitutes sans Teleprompter.
When was the last time he did.
Oblah blah gives no press conferences where he takes questions, rarely speaks off teleprompter, his whole Presiduncy is a hollyweed show, nothing unscripted, crisis-es manufactured, and spokestools doing the work while dear reader Lies, campaigns and vacations and nothing else, no cabinet meetings, no congressional hearings , no out reach to congress on legislation, just a Manchrian Presidence encased in a cocoon insulated from real work and real interactions.

ConcealedKerry on August 12, 2012 at 8:28 PM

I haven’t had time to read the whole thread, but Drudge has a headline that Palin will not speak at the convention. WTH??? Does anyone here know why that may be???

KickandSwimMom on August 12, 2012 at 8:20 PM

Romney is making a mistake.

the_nile on August 12, 2012 at 8:28 PM

paul ryan’s ability to speak on monetary policy titilates me. who knew federal accounting could be so sexy.

Dr. Tesla on August 12, 2012 at 8:28 PM

Looking forward to voting as early as I can for Romney-Ryan 2012!!

Khun Joe on August 12, 2012 at 8:29 PM

ghostwriter on August 12, 2012 at 8:19 PM

While it’s nice to do as many interviews as possible, it’s important to remember that the media is the enemy. They will cut the good parts and play up any negatives. The technicians at the major networks can make the best interview look bad.

bw222 on August 12, 2012 at 8:29 PM

You do realize that most of her ideas are as old as humanity itself, right? And her ideas on the direction of this country are over 200 years old.

No one needs to re-invent the wheel here. There is no need for “original ideas” to get back to what made this country great.

ButterflyDragon on August 12, 2012 at 5:39 PM

YES.

petefrt on August 12, 2012 at 8:30 PM

why do people hate tpaw more than romney? He would have been better t han romney, no romneycare thing to deal with and global warming has sucked a lot people in for awhile. tpaw probably could have put more of those midwestern states into play.

Dr. Tesla on August 12, 2012 at 8:30 PM

Its been a while Dr., how you been?
Bmore on August 12, 2012 at 8:17 PM

All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.

Dongemaharu on August 12, 2012 at 8:30 PM

All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.

Dongemaharu on August 12, 2012 at 8:30 PM

Perhaps, I thought he’d be glad to see me. It has been a while.

Bmore on August 12, 2012 at 8:31 PM

i figured romney wo uld have a black person on his vp. Rice or West.
he didn’t get sucked in to doing that.

Dr. Tesla on August 12, 2012 at 8:32 PM

seems lilke hot air is missing something

people not commenting as much anymore.

Dr. Tesla on August 12, 2012 at 8:33 PM

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