Palin: Ryan pick makes this an election of competing visions

posted at 5:01 pm on August 12, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Yesterday, after some attempt to stir trouble between the Mitt Romney/Paul Ryan campaign and Sarah Palin, Palin herself wrote a lengthy congratulations to Team Romney over the addition of Paul Ryan to the GOP ticket.  The selection of the Republican Party’s best thinker on fiscal policy and entitlement reform makes it clear that the election will give voters a clear choice between competing visions for the nation.  Palin focused mostly on the vision presented by the Obama/Biden ticket, which she accurately describes as “California, minus the beautiful scenery and warm weather”:

Obama’s America is today’s California – complete with $100 billion taxpayer funded bullet trains to nowhere; out of control environmental extremists who have destroyed family farms and left some of the most fertile farm land in America fallow in order to protect a three inch fish; permanent high unemployment; government policies hostile to small business job creators; crippling high taxes; an abysmal real estate market; bloated government that wastes taxpayer money; endless budget shortfalls due to massive unfunded liabilities; city after city declaring bankruptcy; and a state government run by, in the words of one Wall Street Journal writer, “a brothel of environmentalists, lawyers, public-sector unions and legislative bums.”

We can’t afford Obama’s vision. Our children can’t afford it. Today we are over $15 trillion in debt and running up trillion dollar budget deficits year after year for as far as the eye can see. And our “leaders” have no plan to stop it! President Obama and this Congress don’t even have the fundamental blueprint—a budget!—to outline where they intend to take us as they merrily roll along with their out of control spending and constant increases of our debt “limit.” Our debt to China alone is more than we can ever hope to pay off in multiple generations. Such debt and dependence on foreign nations weakens us in countless ways. And yet our government keeps on spending despite the risks and despite conscientious, hardworking citizens telling them to just stop it. Our debt is growing by $3 million per minute. This debt, in conjunction with Obama’s massive government over-reaches like Obamacare, has strangled the private sector, which in turn has stifled job growth and slowed all economic growth. The only way to get our country moving again is to get back to basics like normal people do with our home and small business budgets! That means we must live within our means, get government out of the way of our job creators, develop the God-given natural resources we have been blessed with to provide real jobs and real energy security, and stop growing government and wasting taxpayer money on D.C. cronyism and useless stimulus kick-backs for favored donors.

Barack Obama’s record is one of dismal failure, which is why he isn’t talking about it. He would rather spend his time demonizing his opponents. The simple fact remains that Mitt Romney is not responsible for the dire state of our economy or the corruption and incompetence of the current administration.

This is, I believe, why Romney chose Ryan as his running mate: to refocus the election on substance and issues.  Already we’re seeing Obama’s surrogates fanning out on the morning talk shows to paint Ryan as anti-woman and anti-working class, but that will change when the debate shifts to Ryan’s proposals for entitlement reform.  To attack those, Obama and his campaign have to talk specifics, and Ryan will be well prepared for that — and as we’ve seen in the past, more prepared than Obama or his team.

As I wrote for CNN in a column published last night, Romney has declared an end to silly season, and will force Obama to start defending his own record:

Democrats may be licking their chops, believing that Ryan’s unpopular budget plan will be a millstone around Romney’s neck. However, Democrats would have hung the Ryan plan on Romney no matter who got the VP nod, and no one explains the need for budgetary reform better than Ryan himself. In fact, hardly anyone will talk specifically about how to accomplish budgetary reform. Ryan is one of the few who have risked proposing a roadmap for entitlement reform. Ryan’s plan looks far past the “Taxmageddon” or “fiscal cliff” at the end of this year, to the “fiscal gap” facing the United States over the next 75 years, where our current path puts us on a trajectory to have $222 trillion more in liabilities than revenue.

Barack Obama and the Democratic Party have no serious proposal to deal with long-term debt. The plan Obama has to “pay down the debt” in a “balanced” way would add $6.4 trillion in deficits between 2013 and 2022, according to the Congressional Budget Office.

Democrats’ idea of budgetary reform is to demand an increase in taxes on people making more than $250,000 a year — a policy that the Tax Foundation, a research group that favors lower taxes, says would produce $40 billon a year in new revenue, in budgets with trillion-dollar annual deficits. …

And speaking of seriousness, let’s not forget that the Democratic-controlled Senate has gone more than 1,200 days without passing its own budget. Ryan, who chairs the House Budget Committee, has at least fulfilled the legal obligation for annual budget resolutions in the lower chamber, but he’s gone far beyond that to provide leadership on the long-term fiscal crisis facing the nation.

That contrast led to a confrontation last February between Ryan and Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner over the lack of long-term solutions coming from the White House, in which Geithner finally told Ryan, “We don’t have a definitive solution to the long term problem. What we do know is, we don’t like yours…”

More than anything else, the pick of the GOP’s top thinker on fiscal policy demonstrates leadership, while Geithner’s vacuous response in February demonstrates the lack of leadership in the Obama administration.  They’re out of ideas.  Romney and Ryan aren’t.  If the campaign comes down to Broad Ideas for Fiscal Reform vs Look A Squirrel, Democrats won’t be licking their chops for long.

John Tamny at Forbes wrote this weekend that Ryan was the only choice Romney had if he wants to make this election about the economy, and the safest as well:

Media accounts will suggest that the Ryan pick had a bold, go-for-broke quality to it, but in truth Ryan was the safest selection of all.

He was the safest because in an election all about the U.S. economy, Ryan is the most suited among the names floated to make a strong case for removing the barriers to economic growth erected by Republican (George W. Bush) and Democratic (Barack Obama) administrations over the last 12 years. Romney himself, though a smashing success as a businessman, has struggled to make a coherent economic argument; his 59 point economic plan all the evidence one needs that the GOP presidential nominee needs help tightening up what should be a very simple economic message.

Paul Ryan could make the above arguments in his sleep, and for being able to, he was the only – and once again the safest – choice for Romney. This column for quite some time has said President Obama’s time in the White House will amount to four years, and the pick of Ryan makes that even more certain.

And Timothy Dalrymple makes the case that Romney chose the best man for the actual job, and not just for the campaign:

George W. Bush did not choose Dick Cheney because he was a brilliant campaigner; he was not.  He chose Dick Cheney because he believed that Cheney would help him govern well.  Similarly, Mitt Romney has an eye not only toward winning the power of the presidency, but toward leveraging that power to put American back on a sound financial footing.

It always frustrates me when people speak of the calculus of the VP pick solely in terms of electability.  The choice of a Vice President ought to be about more than winning.  It ought to be about putting together the best possible team for the good of the country.  It ought to be less about doing yourself a favor and more about doing right by the country.  With Romney’s experience in business and the governor’s office, and Ryan’s experience in legislation and budget, they do make a compelling “Comeback Team” for America as it weathers some of the worst economic storms in generations.

Silly season is over.  It’s time to get back to the serious work of reforming the federal government, and the first reform is making Barack Obama a one-term President.


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Sorry folks I admire Palin as much as anyone here. I’m not getting this whole taunting thing that’s going on. What am I missing?

Bmore on August 12, 2012 at 10:31 PM

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We’re the Knights who say “Ni”.

listens2glenn on August 12, 2012 at 10:40 PM

Navel gazing. The nation is careening toward insolvency and the common consideration here is of personalities. Unfortunate, but there you are.

wolfsDad on August 12, 2012 at 10:37 PM

wolfsDad, believe or not I had to look up naval gazing to be sure what it meant. Lol! I guess you might have a point there. That’s a waste of time and energy, right?

Bmore on August 12, 2012 at 10:42 PM

a new rnc flick debuting at the convention

“rinos on comeback mountain”

renalin on August 12, 2012 at 10:35 PM

Could be worse, on brokeback nountain :)…. Som cheer up :)…

jimver on August 12, 2012 at 10:42 PM

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We’re the Knights who say “Ni”.

listens2glenn on August 12, 2012 at 10:40 PM

That sketch never grows old for me. Ni!

Bmore on August 12, 2012 at 10:43 PM

Navel gazing. The nation is careening toward insolvency and the common consideration here is of personalities. Unfortunate, but there you are.

wolfsDad on August 12, 2012 at 10:37 PM

Personality is often the whole difference.

Churchill vs Chamberlain.

the_nile on August 12, 2012 at 10:48 PM

We’re the Knights who say “Ni”.

listens2glenn on August 12, 2012 at 10:40 PM

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That sketch never grows old for me. Ni!

Bmore on August 12, 2012 at 10:43 PM

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Hold the phone there, dude. That was at 10:40 PM.

It’s after 11:00 PM now, and we are no longer the Knights who say “ni”.

We are now the Knights who say ” Ekke Ekke Ekke Ekke Ptang Zoo Boing Zow Zing”
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(that was harder to search for, than I thought)

listens2glenn on August 12, 2012 at 11:06 PM

I don’t talk Palin b/c neither side can be rational about the woman. She”s a carciture by both supporters and her critics.

The reaity is Palin is wrong about Paul Ryan offering a different vision if we do look at his voting record.

I’m old school, i think how a pol votes matters more than anything they say. ryan doesn’t mind voting left on big fiscal votes.

Dr. Tesla on August 12, 2012 at 8:42 PM

Ryan wasn’t in control at the time of those votes. Yes he made some bad votes, as did many other conservatives who went along with a GOP House and protected Bush.

The bottom line is Ryan is forcing ROmney to the right by campaigning on entitlement and budget reform.

Once elected, it’d be political suicide for Romney to just ignore it.

LevinFan on August 12, 2012 at 11:15 PM

I am so excited about Todd Palin being on “Stars earn stripes”!

Rusty Allen on August 12, 2012 at 11:16 PM

Ryan wasn’t in control at the time of those votes. Yes he made some bad votes, as did many other conservatives who went along with a GOP House and protected Bush.

The bottom line is Ryan is forcing ROmney to the right by campaigning on entitlement and budget reform.

Once elected, it’d be political suicide for Romney to just ignore it.

LevinFan on August 12, 2012 at 11:15 PM

Bush did commit political suicide, and Ryan protected him…

the_nile on August 12, 2012 at 11:37 PM

I’m still not certain if that was a compliment.

DannoJyd on August 12, 2012 at 7:58 PM

Bless your heart, it sure was sweetie.

cozmo on August 12, 2012 at 8:00 PM

I was trying to get caught up on this thread and you made me have to clean my computer.

trigon on August 12, 2012 at 11:39 PM

Bmore on August 12, 2012 at 10:43 PM
listens2glenn on August 12, 2012 at 11:06 PM

THe Black Knight Rises

tom daschle concerned on August 12, 2012 at 11:46 PM

tom daschle concerned on August 12, 2012 at 11:46 PM

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Nice pic!

listens2glenn on August 12, 2012 at 11:58 PM

Okay, you forced me to do it. Ni!

Bmore on August 13, 2012 at 12:20 AM

Palin: Ryan pick makes this an election of competing visions

It sure is:

Big Government, big budget

Vs.

Ginormous Government, no budget.

LegendHasIt on August 13, 2012 at 12:42 AM

LegendHasIt on August 13, 2012 at 12:42 AM

You must be an Obama lover.

Schadenfreude on August 13, 2012 at 12:51 AM

Schadenfreude on August 13, 2012 at 12:51 AM

Me and Larry Sinclair take turns, when his Beard lets him get away for a while.

LegendHasIt on August 13, 2012 at 12:55 AM

How disappointing, and yet predictable.

I know what happened. Romney’s people wanted to stage manage everything, including what Palin would say and how she would say it.

So she, being Palin, told Romney to go pound sand. Good for her. At least she has some self-respect.

Palin has taken unheard of grief from the same people who would give Romney, and now Ryan, unheard of grief. The Establishment can’t see past that.

Oh well, I thought Romney was larger than who he really was. Guess not.

Still, he’ll have my vote. Duty call, though. Not like the way I ran out and voted for Palin in ’08.

victor82 on August 12, 2012 at 7:55 PM

This certainly sounds plausible. None of us knows exactly what happened (unless he was there or has a source), but this fits the pattern we’ve seen in the past: that the Romney team fears Palin and would naturally try to either exclude her or micromanage her.

tom on August 13, 2012 at 12:57 AM

Well, the convention should be a real snoozer, judging from he speakers they have lined up. Rand Paul is probably the only one of the bunch who I’d have any interest in listening to. It’s true that having Palin in the lineup probably would have done wonders for the ratings, but she would have stolen the spotlight, both good and bad. Good because she would have taken Obama to the woodshed and fired up the true conservatives in the party (I’m unsure anyone else — Rand included — would be able to do it with as much dazzle as she would). Bad because the media and the turncoats in the ruling class of the GOP would have found a way to turn it into a circus and blame her for it. Either way, Mittens would be foolish not to use Palin as his attack dog (assuming she’s interested). No one can be so bluntly critical in such an entertaining way as she can. Paul Ryan may know his stuff (and I’m sure he’ll eviscerate Biden in the debates which will be fun), but he doesn’t exactly deliver his facts in a manner that excites the average person. I know people bemoan the culture of personality in politics, but it is what it is. Palin is charismatic and that is a powerful weapon. It would be foolish not to use her.

I really had hoped Mittens would pick a VP candidate who would resonate more with base voters, especially those in the South. Of course, I’m not sure who that would be. Jindal? West or Rubio perhaps? For myself, they lack executive experience makes them undesirable because I really don’t want someone a step away from the presidency who has never actually run anything before. We have that now and it’s a colossal cluster. That’s a big problem with Ryan as well, I think. In addition to his voting record, which is not exactly consistent with what he preaches. That said, he’s not as bad as some of the alternatives who have been bandied about — guys who are even more dry and boring than he is. And squishier. The truth is, there just weren’t a lot of options this time around, and we know Mittens plays everything safe so he never would have taken a risk on a decision like this.

We’ll see what happens. Mittens will get my vote. He still hasn’t inspired me to do much more than that, tho.

NoLeftTurn on August 13, 2012 at 1:03 AM

So you’d be happy if she quoted Alinsky and Mao?

Rixon on August 12, 2012 at 5:08 PM

It would still be an unoriginal thought, so no. How do you not get that?

BigWillieStyles on August 13, 2012 at 1:23 AM

Thank you for all that you have accomplished for the Conservative cause. You da man! /

Bmore on August 12, 2012 at 5:19 PM

You mean the fact that no one who takes Palin seriously should be taken seriously? She’s a unoriginal person that some people think craps gold.

BigWillieStyles on August 13, 2012 at 1:26 AM

….soooooooooo…you…are…like three years old?
Mommie in the basement putting your fingers to the keys for you?

KOOLAID2 on August 12, 2012 at 5:23 PM

One of the mainstays on Hot Air actually. It is my favorite blog. Doesn’t mean the commenters in the threads here have anywhere near the intellect of the blog’s writers.

BigWillieStyles on August 13, 2012 at 1:28 AM

the commenters in the threads here have anywhere near the intellect of the blog’s writers.

BigWillieStyles on August 13, 2012 at 1:28 AM

Thank you for the demonstration of exactly what you mean.

sharrukin on August 13, 2012 at 1:40 AM

LMFAO!

Vote Ron Paul!

tom daschle concerned on August 13, 2012 at 1:57 AM

it will be interesting to see how Romney handles the Obama ads asserting truthfullly that ObamaCare and RomneyCare are same basic idea.

that was why heroes like me and others tried to warn you off Romney b/c we are more or less conceding the issue, but maybe enough voters will think Romney will be different if we vote for him and he will try to repeal it.

Dr. Tesla on August 12, 2012 at 7:49 PM

Yes, shooting off your mouth on an anonymous Internet forum is really heroic. (eye roll)

ghostwriter on August 12, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Now now.

A hero can be anyone. Even a man doing something as simple and reassuring as posting hundreds of troll comments on a blog every day just to let people know the world hasn’t ended.

RINO in Name Only on August 13, 2012 at 1:59 AM

man that is a crappy blog…

tom daschle concerned on August 13, 2012 at 2:01 AM

Pokemon blows…

tom daschle concerned on August 13, 2012 at 2:05 AM

Never seen a nominee move away from his VP selection on the same day he taps him to be VP. Unheard of and beyond stupid. Mitt and his team basically told the tea party to pound sand by distancing themselves form the only good things Ryan brpought to the table. Now we find out that the Ryan pick only brought in half of what the PAlin pick brought in in 2008. Only 3.5 million to more than 7 million.

Now to further complicate things for Team Mitt. Palin will not be in speaking in Tampa. So what is there to get excited about for this election….oh yeah defeat that devil obama…..sorry not enough. The top of my ballot will remain blank come Nov. Every action Mitt takes sends me the message he doesn’t want nor care for my vote. So be it. He won’t get it.

It’s just a shame that the RIno will end up destorying another up and coming “conservative” in Ryan. Watch the talking heads and GOPe blame ryan for Mitt’s loss come Nov

unseen on August 13, 2012 at 3:07 AM

As I wrote for CNN in a column published last night

Okay, Ed, and good night. I’ve known for a very long time now this was Rhinoland.

WE need to find an actual home.. Far, far away from LGF and Rhinos.

I’ll find you again, my friends.

Opinionator on August 13, 2012 at 3:12 AM

It’s just a shame that the RIno will end up destorying another up and coming “conservative” in Ryan. Watch the talking heads and GOPe blame ryan for Mitt’s loss come Nov

unseen on August 13, 2012 at 3:07 AM

Romney has not lost yet!..:)

Dire Straits on August 13, 2012 at 3:18 AM

I’ll find you again, my friends.

Opinionator on August 13, 2012 at 3:12 AM

Howdy, Ms. Idaho…

Gohawgs on August 13, 2012 at 3:24 AM

Watch the talking heads and GOPe blame ryan for Mitt’s loss come Nov

unseen on August 13, 2012 at 3:07 AM

1) F the talking heads (not the rock band)

2) Mitt hasn’t lost — as Dire said above. If anything, Ryan’s pick as the VP nom has manifested itself in some large crowds in NC and WI. Give it a chance.

3) Once again, I’d encourage you to help put NC — and it’s Electoral College votes — into the R column come November…

Gohawgs on August 13, 2012 at 3:29 AM

2) Mitt hasn’t lost — as Dire said above. If anything, Ryan’s pick as the VP nom has manifested itself in some large crowds in NC and WI. Give it a chance.

Gohawgs on August 13, 2012 at 3:29 AM

Romney has already started working his magic.

Romney seeks distance from Ryan’s budget plans

“I have my budget plan,” he said. “And that’s the budget plan we’re going to run on.”

sharrukin on August 13, 2012 at 3:36 AM

Gohawgs on August 13, 2012 at 3:29 AM

Excellent post!..:):)

Dire Straits on August 13, 2012 at 3:37 AM

sharrukin on August 13, 2012 at 3:36 AM

And? Even if Mitt strips down to his briefs and sits down on a carpet, I’m voting AGAINST the obamanation and FOR Mr. Beachwear…

Gohawgs on August 13, 2012 at 3:45 AM

And? Even if Mitt strips down to his briefs and sits down on a carpet, I’m voting AGAINST the obamanation and FOR Mr. Beachwear…

Gohawgs on August 13, 2012 at 3:45 AM

And…

Ryan is meaningless in this. His plan won’t be adopted and the only thing Romney wants is his popularity that can be used to put Romney in power.

sharrukin on August 13, 2012 at 3:50 AM

sharrukin on August 13, 2012 at 3:50 AM

Just like most every VP pick in our history…

Gohawgs on August 13, 2012 at 3:52 AM

Just like most every VP pick in our history…

Gohawgs on August 13, 2012 at 3:52 AM

If replacing Obamacare with Romneycare sounds like a bargain to you then go for it.

sharrukin on August 13, 2012 at 3:57 AM

Or the one…

Gohawgs on August 13, 2012 at 4:07 AM

Or the one

Gohawgs on August 13, 2012 at 4:08 AM

1) F the talking heads (not the rock band)

Gohawgs on August 13, 2012 at 3:29 AM

This is not my beautiful house.
This is not my beautiful wife.
How did I get here?

John the Libertarian on August 13, 2012 at 4:10 AM

If replacing Obamacare with Romneycare sounds like a bargain to you then go for it.

sharrukin on August 13, 2012 at 3:57 AM

Letting the states decide? I’ll take it, thanks!

John the Libertarian on August 13, 2012 at 4:12 AM

My memory is clouded due to the days gone bye, JtL…

Gohawgs on August 13, 2012 at 4:13 AM

Gohawgs on August 13, 2012 at 4:13 AM

Same as it ever was…

John the Libertarian on August 13, 2012 at 4:16 AM

I’m hoping an obamanation-like reign of tyranny only happens once in my lifetime…2 terms is unthinkable

Gohawgs on August 13, 2012 at 4:22 AM

Sarah Palin knows we must defeat Obama by electing Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan.

The ‘Cuda has spoken.

Romney/Ryan 2012!!

bluegill on August 12, 2012 at 5:42 PM

You are such a flippin’ blatant hypocrite.

#WAR

Flora Duh on August 12, 2012 at 5:51 PM

Sure, just as soon as the blue gilled one admits that she told a blatant lie about me a couple of weeks ago.

But since there’s no chance of that, I’ll not hold my breath nor hijack this thread.

Flora Duh on August 12, 2012 at 6:02 PM

Flora Duh, just saw your comments. Don’t want to take up space here with this silliness, but want to say that I think you might be confusing me with someone else. I don’t talk about you on here. Heck, we don’t even know each other, yet you hold some kind of grudge against me for who knows what. You post many informative comments on here, and I appreciate them, as I’m sure others do, as well.

If I’m going to post a negative or mocking comment to someone, it’s usually to one of the “we’re going to lose, so there’s no point in voting!” or “I’m such a pure true conservative and Romney isn’t conservative enough for me, so I want Obama to win!” embarrassing idiot brigade that tends to spam these comment sections with their hysterics and naysaying whenever they can.

bluegill on August 13, 2012 at 6:33 AM

Romney has already started working his magic.

Romney seeks distance from Ryan’s budget plans

“I have my budget plan,” he said. “And that’s the budget plan we’re going to run on.”

sharrukin on August 13, 2012 at 3:36 AM

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Imagine that. The guy at the top of the ticket wants to call the shots on policy. Who’da thunk it?

ghostwriter on August 13, 2012 at 6:42 AM

Some of you people are not happy unless you’re complaining. The man picked just about one of the most conservative guys available as his running mate, and you all are still complaining.

Everybody on this forum is just so perfect and principled. Nobody can measure up to them. It must be tough to be so perfect. Then again, if you never have to take a tough vote or stance on issue–you know, one that actually counts outside of an anonymous forum– maybe it isn’t so hard to be so perfect.

ghostwriter on August 13, 2012 at 6:44 AM

bluegill on August 13, 2012 at 6:33 AM

Get help soon.

kingsjester on August 13, 2012 at 6:56 AM

A Very Big Thank You to Sarah Palin!

Sarah Palin has graciously and, of her own accord, decided to let other up-and-coming conservative stars take center stage at the convention this year. She truly is a fine, patriotic woman who wants to do what’s best for the country. Some have suggested that she is all about herself and only loves basking in the national spotlight, but this decision of hers to pass the convention speaking baton shows that she is a much bigger person than some people (myself included) previously gave her credit for. Though I’ve had my issues with some of her decisions in the last year, this move of hers makes me feel a lot more respect for her.

Palin is helping ensure that this will be a forward-looking convention, not one bogged down in 2008 rehashing.

Strong Romney/Ryan supporter Sarah Palin is a fighter who understands that we need to elect Mitt Romney/Paul Ryan AND also need to elect more conservatives to Congress. There is no doubt that Obama must be removed.

President Romney and Vice President Ryan will need more conservative allies in Congress in order to get the necessary work done.

I’m tired of seeing the in-fighting and inter-party bickering over silly and fabricated controversies. Conservative in-fighting is exactly what the Democrat media and the Obama campaign want to see.

We are united in our goal to defeat Obama by electing Mitt Romney/Paul Ryan, to gain a Senate majority and to send more conservatives to the House.

Mitt and Paul Ryan are doing their parts and doing them brilliantly. Sarah Palin is working her magic and doing her part, supporting conservative candidates across the country. We’ve got a great conservative team, and I am eagerly looking forward to the November election.

Though we may disagree on issues here and there, we have a lot more in common and share most of the same basic goals. Let’s not forget that!

Let’s make sure that November 7 headlines everywhere declare the following very beautiful message: “OBAMA DEFEATED”

It’s gonna happen. :-)

bluegill on August 13, 2012 at 6:57 AM

Your hypocrisy knows no bounds.

kingsjester on August 13, 2012 at 6:59 AM

Some of you people are not happy unless you’re complaining. The man picked just about one of the most conservative guys available as his running mate, and you all are still complaining.

Everybody on this forum is just so perfect and principled. Nobody can measure up to them. It must be tough to be so perfect. Then again, if you never have to take a tough vote or stance on issue–you know, one that actually counts outside of an anonymous forum– maybe it isn’t so hard to be so perfect.

ghostwriter on August 13, 2012 at 6:44 AM

LOL! No he didn’t. I know conservatism when I hear it and see it and Ryan ain’t it. Now yes you can make jokes about the previous sentence but that won’t change the fact that Ryan is not conservative. Voting for TARP, the Auto Bailout, Raising the debt, and wanting to preserve the two most socialistic programs in the government, soc sec and medicare is not conservative. This crap of my social program is better than yours type BS has to stop. The country is bankrupt, broke, out of money. Get it? And besides none of those programs are remotely constitutional and anyone with a brain cell knows it. So we are left with the lessor of two evils once again and that still only gets us evil.

bgibbs1000 on August 13, 2012 at 7:04 AM

In the end, Obama chose Biden because it just doesn’t matter. Romney chose Ryan because it damned well does.

swinia sutki on August 13, 2012 at 7:04 AM

Socialist? Communist? Three Questions for Obama
By Paul Kengor, in The American Thinker

Three questions that cut to the chase of the real Barack Obama:

1. Was Obama really a communist when he entered Occidental College, as his former classmate, John Drew, claims and details quite conclusively?

2. Did Obama really join the socialist New Party in the 1990s, as Stanley Kurtz maintains?

3. If yes and yes, then when and why and how did Obama repudiate communism and socialism — assuming he did? Where was the break? Why? When did the conversion happen?

petefrt on August 13, 2012 at 7:25 AM

3. If yes and yes, then when and why and how did Obama repudiate communism and socialism — assuming he did? Where was the break? Why? When did the conversion happen?

petefrt on August 13, 2012 at 7:25 AM

Communism was just “a guy in the neighborhood” and although he sat in the pew for 20 years, he “didn’t pay attention” to Communism‘s sermons.

swinia sutki on August 13, 2012 at 7:40 AM

the commenters in the threads here have anywhere near the intellect of the blog’s writers.

BigWillieStyles on August 13, 2012 at 1:28 AM

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Thank you for the demonstration of exactly what you mean.

sharrukin on August 13, 2012 at 1:40 AM

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Awright, ‘Willie’ ! ! !
Atta way to stroke those HA staffers.

( psst . . . hey, sharrukin, or anybody . . . what the hang is this “intellect” thing he’s talking about? )

listens2glenn on August 13, 2012 at 7:42 AM

A Very Big Thank You to Sarah Palin!

Sarah Palin has graciously and, of her own accord, decided to let other up-and-coming conservative stars take center stage at the convention this year. She truly is a fine, patriotic woman who wants to do what’s best for the country. Some have suggested that she is all about herself and only loves basking in the national spotlight, but this decision of hers to pass the convention speaking baton shows that she is a much bigger person than some people (myself included) previously gave her credit for.

bluegill on August 13, 2012 at 6:57 AM

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Awright, who are you . . . and what have you done with the realbluegill“?

listens2glenn on August 13, 2012 at 7:50 AM

Palin not speaking at Convention………… But letting that PATHETIC LOSER JOHN MCCAIN?

How typical of the lowercase gop.

Remember like McCain said at that town hall “you have nothing to fear from an Obama Presidency.”

PappyD61 on August 13, 2012 at 7:58 AM

Sarah Palin has graciously and, of her own accord, decided to let other up-and-coming conservative stars take center stage at the convention this year. She truly is a fine, patriotic woman who wants to do what’s best for the country. Some have suggested that she is all about herself and only loves basking in the national spotlight, but this decision of hers to pass the convention speaking baton shows that she is a much bigger person than some people (myself included) previously gave her credit for.

bluegill on August 13, 2012 at 6:57 AM

You really are a clown.

Aitch748 on August 13, 2012 at 8:15 AM

PappyD61 on August 13, 2012 at 7:58 AM

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Dead nuts right-on. : (

listens2glenn on August 13, 2012 at 8:22 AM

Palin not invited to speak…

http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/video/statement-from-governor-sarah-palin-you-see-it-first-right-here/

STATEMENT FROM GOVERNOR SARAH PALIN ABOUT THE REPUBLICAN CONVENTION — YOU SEE IT FIRST RIGHT HERE
by Greta Van Susteren

Aug 12 2012 – 11:31 PM ET

“…Everything I said at the 2008 convention about then-candidate Obama still stands today, and in fact the predictions made about the very unqualified and inexperienced Community Organizer’s plans to “fundamentally transform” our country are unfortunately coming true. This year is a good opportunity for other voices to speak at the convention and I’m excited to hear them. As I’ve repeatedly said, I support Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan in their efforts to replace President Obama at the ballot box, and I intend to focus on grassroots efforts to rally Independents and the GOP base to elect Senate and House members so a wise Congress is ready to work with our new President to get our country back on the right path. This is imperative. As President Clinton said in 2008 while candidate Obama and lapdogs in the media were thrashing his wife’s record and reputation, this is “…the biggest fairy tale.” For the sake of America’s solvency and sovereignty we must close this nonsensical book in November…”- Sarah Palin

Yet McCain and Huckabee are speaking??

ChuckTX on August 13, 2012 at 8:23 AM

Yet McCain and Huckabee are speaking??

ChuckTX on August 13, 2012 at 8:23 AM

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Yeah.

What Pappy’ said above, FITS.

listens2glenn on August 13, 2012 at 8:25 AM

Yet McCain and Huckabee are speaking??

ChuckTX on August 13, 2012 at 8:23 AM

Those two are sunset politicians and are no longer a threat.

Fallon on August 13, 2012 at 8:39 AM

Hmmmm…

http://conservatives4palin.com/2012/08/governor-palins-statement-on-the-rnc.html

John_Frank Yesterday 11:59 PM

What we are witnessing is a huge power play and the back story is important. Some we know based on the record, and some is based on my filling in the blanks.

This saga starts in 2000 with the election of George W. Bush as President.

In 2004, after taking the country to war against Iraq and Afghanistan, while running up huge deficits and dramatically increasing the size of the Federal Government, Bush pleaded with conservative leaders to support his re-election effort promising that after the election he would change course, by reigning in government spending, coming up with a plan to balance the budget and so forth.

Bush was re-elected and declined to change course. In response, Richard Viguerie lead a conservative rebellion against the Republican party and the Bush administration.

As a result in the 2006 mid-term election, millions of right of center and independent conservative voters stayed home. The Republicans lost control of both the House and the Senate to the Democrats, suffering a monumental defeat.

Notwithstanding this defeat, the Republicans nominated John McCain as their Presidential nominee. The nomination of Sarah Palin as his running mate energized Republicans, including those who had left the party in 2006, while attracting PUMA voters and McCain surged into the lead.

In the face of the financial crisis, McCain endeavored to act in what he perceived was an honorable fashion. He did force a better deal, including compelling the Democrats and the Bush administration to abandon the idea of setting up a multimillion dollar slush fund for ACORN.

However, for this effort he ended up being rolled by the Democrats and abandoned by House Republicans. Having thrown in his lot with Bush, his lead evaporated, and even though the Governor was able to stop the bleeding with her debate performance, it was too little.

A couple of million right of center voters and independent conservative decided to stay home and not vote for McCain, having concluded that a McCain administration would be no different from a Bush administration.

In 2010, under the leadership of Sarah Palin and the TEA Party movement, the millions of right of center and independent conservative voters who had abandoned the Republican party in 2006, along with many PUMA voters came out in force. The result? Republicans swept State House elections and scored the biggest victory in Congressional politics in over a half century.

But for electoral fraud on the part of Harry Reid in Nevada, the GOPe abandoning a flawed candidate in Delaware who defeated the GOPe candidate in the primary and Mitt Romney mucking things up in California, Republicans would have regained control of the Senate.

Mitt Romney needs these same voters to come out for him in force this year, if he is to defeat Obama in November.

The problem? His campaign was generating very little enthusiasm among these voters and the polling data was showing that Romney was in exactly the same position that McCain was in before he selected Governor Palin as his running mate.

What to do? The Romney campaign decided to select Paul Ryan as Romney’s running mate. His role? To bring out these voters for Romney. The problem? Although Ryan is a good man, he is not a game changer. Yes, his selection moved the campaign in the right direction, but …

In the meantime, negotiations had been ongoing between the Romney campaign and Governor Palin about her roll at the convention.

The first card was played when the Governor gave her email interview to Peter Boyer.

Time passed. Cruz won his primary. High profile people were speaking out, calling for the Governor to be able to speak at the convention.

In April of this year, Ed Gillespie came on as adviser to the Romney campaign. The GOPe, in an effort to influence Romney’s VP pick began working over time, including an effort to re-write what transpired in 2008.

Ultimately, as part of this effort, Dick Cheney was trotted out. He said in an ABC interview that Palin’s selection was a mistake. The following morning, McCain fully and completely rebuffed that charge. The Governor waited 24 hours, to give Cheney an opportunity to back down. He did not.

So, she went on Greta van Susteren’s show and made Cheney look like a fool and an idiot.

Also, in response to a question from Greta, she gave the Republican party and the GOPe the back of her hand as far as speaking at the convention.

The next day, during the course of an interview with Bolling, the Governor indicated that her people and Romney’s people were talking. At the same time she stated that following in the footsteps of GHW Bush, GW Bush and Newt Gingrich, she was prepared to step aside and let new voices speak at the convention.

Negotiations ensued between the parties. The Steelman primary took place. The parties were moving closer. No more attacks, party unity, etc., etc.

So where did the negotiations break down?

I believe they broke down over what the Romney campaign was prepared to allow the Governor to say at the convention.

The Romney campaign wanted her to give a speech in which she gave a really hard Romney sell.

Last night in response to the Ryan announcement, she published her FB note. I believe the note set out what she was prepared to say.

Who was she expressly speaking to in that note? The millions of disaffected voters who were no longer prepared to support “business as usual” having left the Republican party in 2006, some of whom came back in 2008, along with the PUMA voters and all those who answered her message and that of the TEA Party movement in 2010; i.e. the very people that the Romney/Ryan ticket needed to come out and vote for them to beat Obama.

What she said in her FB note was not what the Romney campaign wanted her to say; and even though she reiterated her full support in the Breem interview that was not good enough.

While the Breem interview was taking place, the Romney campaign publicly distanced itself from Ryan’s common sense entitlement reform proposals in an effort to deflect the Democrat attacks on the House budget, agreeing that budget was austere, etc. even though:

- the budget merely slows down the rate of grow in spending and does not call for the budget to be balanced for 24 years.

- Romney has said that he wants to balance the budget in 8 – 10 years.

So, she called the bluff of the RNC and the Romney campaign and ultimately issued her public statement to Van Susteren.

In the statement, the door was left slightly ajar. The Romney campaign refused to budge, and Priebus as RNC chair ultimately issued his statement that he was saddened she would not be attending the convention, etc.

So, where does that leave Sarah Palin and her supporters?

Going out independently of the Romney campaign and working to:

- Get the disaffected voters who came out in 2010 to come out again in 2012 to help elect common sense constitutional conservatives to the House and Senate who will buck the GOPe and push for “sudden and relentless reform,” with the object of keeping the House and regaining control of the Senate.

- Encourage these voters to go to the polls to defeat Obama, etc.

In that regard, it is essential that we do everything we can to help Sandy Adams win her primary on Tuesday.

- After the election, representing these voters and working with those members of the House and Senate who are prepared to stand up to the permanent political class, to be in their face and the new President, to push for “sudden and relentless reform.”

- What happens if Republicans keep the House and win control of the Senate but Obama wins re-election? Not going to cross that bridge. We need to be all in with the mission as outlined in her FB note, her post to Gretawire and as announcements are rolled out.

- What happens in 2014 and 2016? Hard to tell at this juncture. A lot depends on future events, but if the Republican establishment persists on a course that rejects “sudden and relentless reform,” I believe the Governor will be at the fore, leading the charge and this time ….

P.S. I stand with Sarah Palin.

ChuckTX on August 13, 2012 at 8:43 AM

ChuckTX on August 13, 2012 at 8:43 AM

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Well done; long . . . but good.

listens2glenn on August 13, 2012 at 8:53 AM

Flora Duh, just saw your comments. Don’t want to take up space here with this silliness, but want to say that I think you might be confusing me with someone else. I don’t talk about you on here. Heck, we don’t even know each other, yet you hold some kind of grudge against me for who knows what. You post many informative comments on here, and I appreciate them, as I’m sure others do, as well.

If I’m going to post a negative or mocking comment to someone, it’s usually to one of the “we’re going to lose, so there’s no point in voting!” or “I’m such a pure true conservative and Romney isn’t conservative enough for me, so I want Obama to win!” embarrassing idiot brigade that tends to spam these comment sections with their hysterics and naysaying whenever they can.

bluegill on August 13, 2012 at 6:33 AM

Oh, give me a break. Get over it. How pathetic that some people hold grudges after having been shown to be incorrect time and again. Not everyone is going to agree with you. If you want to hear only “Sarah is amazing” posts, then maybe you can head over to C4P.

bluegill on July 16, 2012 at 6:48 PM

I’m still waiting for an example of you showing me to have been proven incorrect. Just one.

Or did you run away from the thread because once again your blatant hypocrisy has been exposed and you know you’re lying about the above claim you made?

#WAR

Flora Duh on July 16, 2012 at 7:20 PM

Flora Duh on August 13, 2012 at 8:55 AM

Sarah Palin has graciously and, of her own accord, decided to let other up-and-coming conservative stars take center stage at the convention this year. She truly is a fine, patriotic woman who wants to do what’s best for the country. Some have suggested that she is all about herself and only loves basking in the national spotlight, but this decision of hers to pass the convention speaking baton shows that she is a much bigger person than some people (myself included) previously gave her credit for.

bluegill on August 13, 2012 at 6:57 AM

You really are a clown.

Aitch748 on August 13, 2012 at 8:15 AM

HA! Let’s let Flora Duh take care of the Pan fish shall we?

ToddPA on August 13, 2012 at 9:02 AM

Yet McCain and Huckabee are speaking??

ChuckTX on August 13, 2012 at 8:23 AM

Jeb, McCain and Huckabee are part of the new fresh face of the GOP.*

Remember like McCain said at that town hall “you have nothing to fear from an Obama Presidency.”

PappyD61 on August 13, 2012 at 7:58 AM

Mcain also made Wright a non issue. His team insulated “the one” from it’s racist ,radical past. He screwed up his campaign AND did heavy lifting to help perpetuate the false narrative that BO is a normal moderate American. Mcain was a disaster and has done more to aid BO then any democrat could have.

*When did this retarded obsession with young politicians start up. Reagan was old as heck and he was still a fresh face for his party in 76. Just because you are under 55 don’t mean you aren’t a party hack.
I’m in no way a shiite cleric loving Paulastinian, but that old man is 1000x more youthful and appealing to youths then a Nikki Haley or CHris Christie. The Rs should stop with the superficial games.

BoxHead1 on August 13, 2012 at 9:05 AM

LOL! No he didn’t. I know conservatism when I hear it and see it and Ryan ain’t it. Now yes you can make jokes about the previous sentence but that won’t change the fact that Ryan is not conservative. Voting for TARP, the Auto Bailout, Raising the debt, and wanting to preserve the two most socialistic programs in the government, soc sec and medicare is not conservative. This crap of my social program is better than yours type BS has to stop. The country is bankrupt, broke, out of money. Get it? And besides none of those programs are remotely constitutional and anyone with a brain cell knows it. So we are left with the lessor of two evils once again and that still only gets us evil.

bgibbs1000 on August 13, 2012 at 7:04 AM

Oh please. You’re probably the worst one of the malcontents. By the line of reasoning that you just promulgated, Reagan isn’t conservative enough for you, because he tried to save Social Security. Vote for the Constitution Party candidate.

Repeat after me: “The perfect is the enemy of the good.”

ghostwriter on August 13, 2012 at 9:07 AM

The truth is, there just weren’t a lot of options this time around, and we know Mittens plays everything safe so he never would have taken a risk on a decision like this.

We’ll see what happens. Mittens will get my vote. He still hasn’t inspired me to do much more than that, tho.

NoLeftTurn on August 13, 2012 at 1:03 AM

truth there …. feel the same way …. gonna vote against Obama …..
that means for Mittens ….
*sigh*

conservative tarheel on August 13, 2012 at 9:10 AM

HA! Let’s let Flora Duh take care of the Pan fish shall we?

ToddPA on August 13, 2012 at 9:02 AM

I have corn meal and cracker meal … which will it be?

conservative tarheel on August 13, 2012 at 9:12 AM

I have corn meal and cracker meal … which will it be?

conservative tarheel on August 13, 2012 at 9:12 AM

Cracker meal, a little salt and pepper and cook it in bacon grease. Yum.

Fallon on August 13, 2012 at 9:18 AM

A Very Big Thank You to Sarah Palin!

Sarah Palin has graciously and, of her own accord, decided to let other up-and-coming conservative stars take center stage at the convention this year. She truly is a fine, patriotic woman who wants to do what’s best for the country. Some have suggested that she is all about herself and only loves basking in the national spotlight, but this decision of hers to pass the convention speaking baton shows that she is a much bigger person than some people (myself included) previously gave her credit for.

bluegill on August 13, 2012 at 6:57 AM

She is doing WHAT?! I have not been as up on this story as much as some of you. I didn’t know she was planning to do that during the convention. What a freak show that woman is. Now that makes me even more upset that this woman is trying to steal the spotlight for herself when it should be on ROMNEY during that week. The focus should be on Obama’s record, not on what attention-seeking, party-dividing antics Palin wants to pull for her own benefit.

bluegill on May 16, 2012 at 9:21 AM

Flora Duh on August 13, 2012 at 9:18 AM

ChuckTX on August 13, 2012 at 8:43 AM

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Well done; long . . . but good.

listens2glenn on August 13, 2012 at 8:53 AM

long but very good … and quite possibly what happened ….
I also stand with Sarah Palin …

conservative tarheel on August 13, 2012 at 9:19 AM

1) F the talking heads (not the rock band)

2) Mitt hasn’t lost — as Dire said above. If anything, Ryan’s pick as the VP nom has manifested itself in some large crowds in NC and WI. Give it a chance.

3) Once again, I’d encourage you to help put NC — and it’s Electoral College votes — into the R column come November…

Gohawgs on August 13, 2012 at 3:29 AM

I fully intend to do just that … I only hope that the GOP doesn’t pull defeat from the jaws of victory ….

conservative tarheel on August 13, 2012 at 9:23 AM

I have corn meal and cracker meal … which will it be?

conservative tarheel on August 13, 2012 at 9:12 AM

Cracker meal, a little salt and pepper and cook it in bacon grease. Yum.

Fallon on August 13, 2012 at 9:18 AM

Now we’re talkin!!

ToddPA on August 13, 2012 at 9:27 AM

Flora Duh on August 13, 2012 at 9:18 AM

Perfect..:)

idesign on August 13, 2012 at 9:27 AM

I have corn meal and cracker meal … which will it be?

conservative tarheel on August 13, 2012 at 9:12 AM

Cracker meal, a little salt and pepper and cook it in bacon grease. Yum.

Fallon on August 13, 2012 at 9:18 AM

Now we’re talkin!!

ToddPA on August 13, 2012 at 9:27 AM

No amount of seasoning will make that pan fish palatable.

Flora Duh on August 13, 2012 at 9:40 AM

So, Mitt thinks he can win without the support of SP? Good luck with that one. He’s going to need all the help he can get. The ABO will garner some votes but there’s too many cons out there who just might try to say they are standing on principle and stay home. I can’t not vote, there’s too many who have died giving me that right. I don’t think Mitt’s a crooked Chitown politician or a socialist and that’s good enough for this year. SP could go to Tampa as a FOX analyst which would give her a bigger platform.

Kissmygrits on August 13, 2012 at 9:45 AM

Kissmygrits on August 13, 2012 at 9:45 AM

The continued enabling of the destroyers of our nation…

astonerii on August 13, 2012 at 9:49 AM

No amount of seasoning will make that pan fish palatable.

Flora Duh on August 13, 2012 at 9:40 AM

but think of the fun of blackened pan fish ….. some creole seasoning .. hmmmm

conservative tarheel on August 13, 2012 at 9:56 AM

It’s amazing that we have to choose between 2 elitist punks. No matter what they try to say about Palin she has proved that she is the only adult in the room.

Mitt needs his butt kicked as much as Obama. Both are childish, gutless, twits. Childish, elitist, gutless, twits from both parties are what got us into this mess in the first place.

Such as shame! America deserves better.

Jayrae on August 13, 2012 at 9:58 AM

ChuckTX on August 13, 2012 at 8:43 AM:

Thank you for posting that. John Frank has it right. That is the way my source told it to me with only a few details left out, so from my point of view it has credibility.

There is a reason that the Democrats all stand up on stage smiling, hand-in-hand after the fighting is over. Tomorrow, you are going to need the vote of the guy you fought today. Some people here and at the GOP would be wise to absorb that and put it into practice. There are fences to be mended and a sale to be made. So far it has not been done. This is not opinion or new information, it has been around since the Greeks. When clues are being handed out for free, smart people grab a couple of them.

SurferDoc on August 13, 2012 at 10:25 AM

HOTAIR = Huntsman Over That Alaskan Influential Republican

MassVictim on August 13, 2012 at 10:28 AM

SurferDoc on August 13, 2012 at 10:25 AM

This.

trigon on August 13, 2012 at 10:50 AM

Bread Ball ?

Bmore on August 13, 2012 at 11:42 AM

The math is pretty simple, and the 2010 turnout by the Tea Party is pretty simple, so I don’t understand why you would dictate anything to Sarah. Further, are they telling McCain, Paul, Huckabee, et al what to say? I don’t think so. So what is this all about? Hmmmmm?

They don’t like that she is a conservative woman who pushes back, and a conservative thorn in all these down-ticket elections that go against GOP establishment candidates. Cruz left a much bigger mark than anyone thought and they are likely furious with her continued bucking of the scripted line.

Starlink on August 13, 2012 at 12:04 PM

the GOP-e is counting on the hated and fear of a 2nd Obama tour to bring
out the tea party no matter what Romney does ….

conservative tarheel on August 13, 2012 at 12:10 PM

Interesting developments.

So, Sarah Palin won’t speak at all in the convention proper.

Not so much of a big deal, since she will be in Tampa, probably on Fox News, and SarahPAC still has a large space reserved across the street and down a couple blocks from the convention hall.

I wonder what they have planned there.

Maybe a parallel Tea Party convention, or some such thing?

Who knows, but I can say confidently it will be very interesting, and probably fun to observe.

On to November!

Brian1972 on August 13, 2012 at 1:11 PM

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arlink on August 13, 2012 at 12:25 PM

I am not so sure the GOP wizards do smart so well ….

conservative tarheel on August 13, 2012 at 3:08 PM

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