Do welfare recipients have an incentive to work?
posted at 9:21 am on August 10, 2012 by Rob Bluey
There are more than 70 separate welfare programs operated by the federal government today. The cumulative cost is nearly $1 trillion per year and rapidly expanding on President Obama’s watch.
Over the past few weeks, we’ve been talking about just one. The Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) program was the centerpiece of President Bill Clinton’s landmark reform in 1996. TANF includes something the government’s other welfare programs lack: mandatory work requirements. That’s why the illegal move by the Department of Health and Human Services to gut the law was so alarming. By allowing states to waive work requirements, the Obama administration essentially ended our most successful welfare program, one that helped more than 3 million Americans escape poverty.
If there’s anything good to come of this debate, it’s the opportunity to fix the failed welfare state. Writing for National Review yesterday, Michael Franc pinpoints one of the central problems that needs to be addressed:
In many cases, economists have calculated, welfare recipients who enter the work force or receive pay raises lose a dollar or more of benefits for each additional dollar they earn. The system makes fools of those who work hard.
Recently the chairmen of two important subcommittees on Capitol Hill convened a hearing on this issue. The hearing elicited some revealing testimony from one of the chairmen’s congressional colleagues.
“The more benefits the government provides, the stronger the disincentive to work,” Representative Geoff Davis (R., Ky.) pointed out. The great irony, he added, is that although federal welfare programs “are designed to alleviate poverty while promoting work,” collectively they have “an unintended side effect of discouraging harder work and higher earnings.”
Less work and lower earnings, in turn, translate into greater dependency on the government — and zero or even downward social and economic mobility for those mired in poverty.
At the congressional hearing, it was liberal Rep. Gwen Moore (D-WI) who provided some of the most enlightening testimony. As a single mother with kids, Moore once relied on welfare. She spoke in personal terms about the tradeoffs recipients must make when their employer offers a promotion or pay increase. In her case, she once “begged my supervisor not to give me a 50-cents-an-hour raise lest I lose Title 20 daycare.” Moore said the same factors were at play with her Medicaid.
What government bureaucrat devised this scheme?
In the land of the free and home of the brave, our government is forcing America’s poor to make choices that Franc says should be “no-brainer decisions.” Of course she should take the job, the pay raise, promotion and climb the ladder. Only in Moore’s case, those weren’t actually incentives.
Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH), chairman of the conservative Republican Study Committee, is spearheading the next wave of welfare reform on Capitol Hill. The Welfare Reform Act of 2011 would require recipients of food stamps to work or prepare for a job, disclose the costs of total federal, state, and local welfare spending, and return welfare spending to its 2007 level once unemployment hits 6.5 percent.
That’s more than Obama has offered. His administration’s illegal action — and, yes, it was illegal — moves America in the wrong direction. Or, perhaps more accurately, it makes Americans more dependent on government. According to The Heritage Foundation’s Index of Dependence on Government:
Today, more people than ever before—67.3 million Americans, from college students to retirees to welfare beneficiaries—depend on the federal government for housing, food, income, student aid, or other assistance once considered to be the responsibility of individuals, families, neighborhoods, churches, and other civil society institutions. The United States reached another milestone in 2010: For the first time in history, half the population pays no federal income taxes.
We can do better. It’s time to fix our broken welfare system.
Rob Bluey directs the Center for Media and Public Policy, an investigative journalism operation at The Heritage Foundation. Follow him on Twitter: @RobertBluey
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WTF??
Must be the population..
Hey Denmark..
Take a look at your future…
*pointing the Trillion Dollar coin*
Electrongod on April 22, 2013 at 9:23 PM
Bishop!
unclesmrgol on April 22, 2013 at 9:24 PM
Okay…
:)
Electrongod on April 22, 2013 at 9:25 PM
Aging population mixed with a younger population who doesn’t want to work or support their own children when they do have children equal no one actually supporting ANYONE..
This is for everyone who think that government money comes from the money fairies..
melle1228 on April 22, 2013 at 9:31 PM
But it does Melle!!
Money TREE Fairies!
Golden egg laying geese
Skittle poopin’ Unicorns
And Taxing Rain Fall!!
Scrumpy on April 22, 2013 at 9:36 PM
America too: When Work is Punished: The Tragedy of America’s Welfare State
slickwillie2001 on April 22, 2013 at 9:37 PM
Too little, too late.
Even if they completely demolish their welfare system and revert to a free market entrepreneurial model, the seed corn of human capital destroyed by their Enlightenment ideas can’t be replenished in time.
Canary in the coal mine?
Cleombrotus on April 22, 2013 at 9:41 PM
I’m just amazed they can talk about “entitlement” reform without the riots and whining.
Cindy Munford on April 22, 2013 at 9:44 PM
All Denmark needs to do is click its heels and wish for a Bernanke.
Everything is sunny when you have a Dr. Bernanke’s Own Magic Money Making Machine! Just fill with ink, paper, MSM disinformation and before you say “Ben’s not your uncle” you’ve got cold, hard cash!
It’s so easy even a Zimbabwean can do it!
Punchenko on April 22, 2013 at 9:48 PM
and entitlement problems,
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MeanWhile,back at the North Carolina Senate Ranch:
North Carolina Senate passes bill requiring drug testing for welfare applicants; measure goes to state House – @wral
29 mins ago from http://www.wral.com by editor
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http://www.wral.com/drug-testing-for-benefits-bill-passes-senate/12369158/
canopfor on April 22, 2013 at 9:52 PM
11 or bust..
:)
Electrongod on April 22, 2013 at 9:56 PM
OT –
Brayam’s heroes.
CW on April 22, 2013 at 9:57 PM
I’m just amazed they can talk about “entitlement” reform without the riots and whining.
Cindy Munford on April 22, 2013 at 9:44 PM
Cindy Munford:
And,Drum Circles!:–O
canopfor on April 22, 2013 at 9:58 PM
There are 4 times as many people on food stamps here than there are Swedes. In Sweden.
Let that swirl around the synapses for awhile.
BobMbx on April 22, 2013 at 9:58 PM
“Then the work isn’t finished” – Denmark Libs
Electrongod on April 22, 2013 at 10:01 PM
Okay, wrong Nordic country.
Let me try again.
There are nearly 10 times as many people on food stamps here than there are Danes. In Denmark.
Let that swirl around the synapses for awhile.
Oh….and here’s the killer trivia about Denmark. If you’re born a Dane, you are automatically enrolled in the Church of Denmark, and you will forever be paying taxes to the church. No apostates….you still owe the tax.
Very progressive, eh?
BobMbx on April 22, 2013 at 10:02 PM
I don’t think they believe that for a minute, though. They are just concerned about balancing the checkbook. Even the ephemeral concerns dont seem to reach belief that increasing freedom would provide a “much more robust prosperity than an otherwise floundering entitlement state ever could.”
Axe on April 22, 2013 at 10:03 PM
.
I can plainly see the “spiraling out of control”, and the “negative side, you’ve been unwilling to talk about”.
But you’re going to have to get me a bigger magnifying-glass to see this alleged “lot of good” … Or a microscope, maybe ?
listens2glenn on April 22, 2013 at 10:04 PM
Danes are also forced learn Danish which is a very difficult language.
Bishop on April 22, 2013 at 10:06 PM
.
Sure, your comment is not specifically about Denmark, but the subject matter certainly applies.
listens2glenn on April 22, 2013 at 10:08 PM
I find your lack of faith . . . disturbing. :)
– Hey, smell that? I think that’s open registration. No, wait, that’s Squatch. This area is perfect Squatch country . . . No, now it smells like open registration again . . .
Axe on April 22, 2013 at 10:11 PM
We have an entire nation of such people.
Yay, America!
Bishop on April 22, 2013 at 10:11 PM
Well the Dane’s are obviously RACIST!
Oh, wait. Never mind.
GarandFan on April 22, 2013 at 10:12 PM
Screw Denmark. I prefer brunettes. *winks*
wolly4321 on April 22, 2013 at 10:14 PM
*winks back*
-Mooch
Bishop on April 22, 2013 at 10:19 PM
Must be all those muslims milking the system.
jake49 on April 22, 2013 at 10:26 PM
And just think…had the two boys that have made national history this week been raised by two loving parents, instead of by a village…
Relying on the teat does not make for good character or strong nations.
ndanielson on April 22, 2013 at 10:26 PM
Get real. Those actually blonde blondes are astonishing. Their babes are transcendent. Sort of like Colombian babes, where their babes knock the whole previous idea of babe into a cocked hat . . . of course the Colombian babes are brunettes . . . so I guess this comment was pointless from end to end.
Well, there’s five seconds you’ll never get back.
^ Feminists should consider that parody so I don’t have to listen to your sandwich-inept crap.
Axe on April 22, 2013 at 10:27 PM
Since the nordic countries tend to be more homogeneous than the US, there may be a greater tendancy to not look at some kind of cosmic justice as the be all/end all for their country. Hence, they can take a long hard look at what is happening and make reasonable adjustments (aside from the fact that they are relatively small countries so the changes are not so huge).
In the US, we have lots of cultures and minorities, and a point of view that wants these cultures and minorities to be distinct and separate which would also means they would resist the kinds of adjustments that Denmark and Sweden can make with a homogeneous population.
After all, it is probably impossible to convince every group that what is being taken from it (in the form of reduced benefits) is being done in a fair and reasonable fashion. This is especially true with the fostering of grievances about society and “discrimination”.
It is easier to give smaller portions of an expanding economic pie, but much harder when the pie is shrinking.
Russ808 on April 22, 2013 at 10:58 PM
Emphasis added.
AesopFan on April 22, 2013 at 11:02 PM
Don’t sell yourself short, my mind whirled for a good couple of minutes… Blonde blondes….Colombians…
If I’m not back in a few, just proceed without me…
socalcon on April 23, 2013 at 12:40 AM
But it is a tasty breakfast.
fossten on April 23, 2013 at 7:32 AM
I’m starting to lose track of how much of my existence is currently under threat from the government. Let’s see… my second amendment rights are clearly on the table. After this week, it looks like my fourth and fifth amendment rights can be suspended by the police when, in their largely unfettered discretion, the police think that’s necessary. To top it all off, notwithstanding the clear evidence of everywhere else in the world, my country seems bound and determined to spend itself (further and further) into bankruptcy. I reckon I can console myself with the notion that, sooner or later, they won’t be able to pay enough policemen to maintain a police state.
morganfrost on April 23, 2013 at 8:18 AM
If you decide to address the problem when it first shows up, instead of repeatedly kicking the can down the road, you only need to take baby steps to correct it. It’s by putting off dealing with a growing problem, and letting it grow to monstrous proportions, that brings our stark choices of drastic slashing measures vs. just letting it crash.
Back in 2003 it was apparent that the Social Security fixes of the 1980s weren’t adequate. If Congress had done something as simple as providing that benefits would be delayed by one month per year for the next 24 years, we would have already raised the retirement age by nearly a year, and folks would have had 10 years to adjust to the circumstance. And us old folks are already working longer anyway.
ss396 on April 23, 2013 at 9:38 AM
Once a Ponzi scheme, always a Ponzi scheme. While re-arranging the deck chairs on Titanic made the deck space more efficient, the efficiency was short-lived…IIRC. But that didn’t stop the Deck Chair Arrangement Committee from doing the vital work that committees do in times of crisis.
BobMbx on April 23, 2013 at 9:53 AM
As a proud member of the ‘sen tribe, I am glad to hear this, but it may be too little too late. Danes and Scandinavians in general may be socialistic, but they have always understood exactly how the system worked and why it worked. i.e. Smallish countries with very little system abuse. That all changed with the influx of immigrants over the last 20 years and now they see the writing on the wall. Love Demnark, but they let political correction put a wrench in their well oiled machine. Hope they follow (the dreaded) Sweden’s lead on this.
AmeriCuda on April 23, 2013 at 10:12 AM