Breaking: Romney to announce VP pick tomorrow at 9 8:45 am; Update: NBC says it’s Ryan

posted at 11:22 pm on August 10, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Fresh in the e-mail inbox from Team Romney:

Boston, MA – On Saturday, Mitt Romney will begin his “The Romney Plan For A Stronger Middle Class” bus tour by announcing his choice for Vice Presidential candidate in Norfolk, Virginia. The following events are open to the press. Please note that the tour of the USS Wisconsin and Homemades by Suzanne drop by are pool coverage.

Lest one thinks that Romney’s presence on the USS Wisconsin is just an odd coincidence, here’s what Bill Kristol is hearing:

THE WEEKLY STANDARD has learned that the Romney campaign has begun to prepare a vigorous effort in support of Paul Ryan if he is selected as Mitt Romney’s vice presidential pick—something now likely to happen soon. For example, GOP officials tell THE WEEKLY STANDARD that Wisconsin governor Scott Walker is among a group of Republicans who has been asked to be ready, in terms of his schedule and other practical preparations, to make the case publicly for a Romney-Ryan ticket as early as Saturday.

This of course does not mean the Wisconsin congressman will necessarily end up as Romney’s running mate. The Romney campaign may be working to lay the groundwork for one or two other possible picks, though THE WEEKLY STANDARD has been unable to find evidence of any comparable preparation for other candidates. Or the Romney team could be engaging in some last minute misdirection, as other campaigns have done. In 2000, much of the attention in the days before the announcement of Dick Cheney as Bush’s running mate focused on John Danforth, thanks to nudging from inside the campaign. And in 2004, the New York Post splashed on its front page a story indicating that Richard Gephardt would be John Kerry’s running mate. It’s entirely possible that the Romney campaign is engaging in the same kind of shenanigans.

But if the signs pointing toward Ryan, increasing in number, are meant as a feint, it’s an odd one. Ryan is popular among conservatives and Republicans, and the talk about him is generating lots of excitement in conservative and GOP circles. The campaign would presumably be acting to tamp down Ryan speculation if Ryan weren’t going to be the pick, in order to avoid a sense of letdown if he’s passed over. But the campaign is doing no such thing. Rather, it seems to be preparing observers for Ryan.

Yeah, I don’t see this as a feint, although it might have been a multiple-candidate effort.  Romney has enough problems with conservatives that using Ryan as a red herring to pick Tim Pawlenty or Bob McDonnell would leave a very sour taste with the Tea Party grassroots.  If they’re working with Scott Walker to prepare for the announcement, one has to assume that the running mate will be Ryan — or, long shot, Scott Walker himself.

If it is Paul Ryan, it’s a good choice.  Ryan has solid policy credentials, but also has enough media presence and charm to make people listen.  Team Obama will hang Ryan’s budget on Romney, but they were going to do that anyway.  Why not have the man himself as the VP to explain it?  Ryan also gives the ticket solid Washington experience, while giving conservatives more hope that a Romney presidency will aim for serious change.

That would be the biggest plus for the campaign, which has had to fight Obama’s strategy of distraction.  Ryan’s efforts play the long game on budgets and entitlement reform; he’s one of the few people in Washington talking about not just the fiscal cliff but the long-term fiscal gap I wrote about this week in the Fiscal Times.  Progressives dislike the plan, conservatives fault it for taking too long to balance the budget, but Ryan’s plan is literally the only serious plan on the table to fix that $222 trillion long-term gap.  Ryan adds instant gravitas to the campaign, something that Obama and his team have failed to do despite being the incumbent President of the United States.

If indeed it’s Ryan, even the media may have to start focusing on the most serious issues — and that’s bad news for Obama.

Update: A subsequent e-mail from Team Romney puts the announcement time at 8:45 am, so I changed the headline.

Update II: According to Peter Hamby at CNN, Romney spent the evening calling the VP shortlist candidates, thanking them for their efforts, and telling them they didn’t get the pick.

Update III: Allahpundit just flagged this tweet to me:

Serious question: would NBC get a leak like this?


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Medicare Part D has cost about $60 billion a year since its inception.
Bailout, $800 billion, plus another $200 billion that Ryan also voted in favor of.
Auto bailout was $50 billion, plus another $50 billion in a tax break.
NCLB was $25 billion a year.

That’s about 1.7 trillion in new spending that Ryan’s voted for. And that’s only a few of his votes.

The budget hawk.

Right.

MadisonConservative on August 11, 2012 at 3:15 AM

Remember Kemp?

Flapjackmaka on August 11, 2012 at 3:06 AM

I remember Bob Dole going up against a young, charismatic Southern politician who presided over a booming economy.

Punchenko on August 11, 2012 at 3:11 AM

Well, Romney/Ryan are going up against a socialist and an idiot in a country barely hanging on.

AllahsNippleHair on August 11, 2012 at 3:16 AM

The sad part is that they are doing the same thing with their meaningless votes to get rid of Obamacare. Just watch when a real vote on Obamacare shows up. You with hear the scampering of hundreds of Republican feet as they run for the shadows.

sharrukin on August 11, 2012 at 3:11 AM

Yep. And that will give Romney cover to talk about how much he wants to repeal ObamaCare, but shucks, he just can’t work with Congress.

MadisonConservative on August 11, 2012 at 3:16 AM

All of those votes came when Ryan had 0 leadership role. You can act like that doesn’t matter, but it does. If you want to actually create change you need to eat what the leadership gives you until you’re big enough to lead yourself. Ryan has proposed to fundamentally reform medicare so that it doesn’t collapse the country in a decade or so. Whine all you want about him “not leading.” Guess what, he’s the VP nominee now and Ron Paul and Michelle Bachmann are at home. Showhorses rile the people. Leaders find ways to get into power. Ryan got 97% of the Republican caucuses in each chamber to vote with him. It didn’t pass because of a Democratic Senate and President.

There’s literally no reason to believe Ryan will be “muzzled” (though I thought he wasn’t a conservative anyway). Romney has been using Ryan talking points since January.

cpaulus on August 11, 2012 at 2:55 AM

Very well said.

Madcon can criticize Ryan all he wants but it isn’t going to make me change my mind.

The bottom line is Ryan has the ONLY serious plan to fix the long term budget plan.

Picking him shows that Romney is serious about making some real cuts and that’s great news.

LevinFan on August 11, 2012 at 3:16 AM

The bottom line is Ryan has the ONLY serious plan to fix the long term budget plan.

LevinFan on August 11, 2012 at 3:16 AM

And what will happen to that plan if he moves off the budget committee?

MadisonConservative on August 11, 2012 at 3:18 AM

It will backfire and the media and more importantly Americans in general will be presented with the hard truth about entitlement reform instead of the can being kicked down the road as usual.

LevinFan on August 11, 2012 at 3:10 AM

That’s the truth…I hope…

It really needs to be brought front and center, and talked about and solutions found, or it’s curtains…

Scrumpy on August 11, 2012 at 3:18 AM

Quick Pop back in:
For you All Nighter Peeps,otay,nite once again:)

Heres a read:
=============

Assessing President Obama’s Fiscal Record
By Paul Ryan
*************

Key Points:
************

 Spending surged 18% in 2009 reaching 25% of GDP – the highest since World War II

 Deficits exceeded $1 trillion in each of the four years of the President’s term

 Gross debt has increased over $5 trillion since the President was inaugurated

 Even adjusting for a weak economy and Bush-era policies, President Obama has signed
legislation increasing deficits by $1.6 trillion over his term

 Republicans in the 112th Congress have stopped the spending spree
and have forced the
President to accept over $2.3 trillion in future deficit reduction
===================================================================

http://budget.house.gov/uploadedfiles/presidentobamasfiscalrecord.pdf

canopfor on August 11, 2012 at 3:18 AM

the speech romney gives when he loses the election will be both sad and glorious. We get Obama for 4 more years is the sad part. But the fact we got rid of one of the party’s biggest frauds is great.

Flapjackmaka on August 11, 2012 at 3:19 AM

Are the comments not showing up for anyone else? arrghh!

LevinFan on August 11, 2012 at 3:19 AM

LevinFan on August 11, 2012 at 3:16 AM

Well, Romney is on record saying the spending cuts have to wait and Paul Ryan’s budget will balance itself in some dewy future in 35 years. So yes, looks like they are a match made in heaven.

promachus on August 11, 2012 at 3:19 AM

Yep. And that will give Romney cover to talk about how much he wants to repeal ObamaCare, but shucks, he just can’t work with Congress.

MadisonConservative on August 11, 2012 at 3:16 AM

And the poor soul will be forced by those nasty congress critters to change Obamacare into Romneycare National…against his will. /

sharrukin on August 11, 2012 at 3:20 AM

MontanaMmmm on August 11, 2012 at 3:09 AM

I’m with you!..:)

Dire Straits on August 11, 2012 at 3:21 AM

And what will happen to that plan if he moves off the budget committee?

MadisonConservative on August 11, 2012 at 3:18 AM

As VP Ryan will work with Romney and he’ll work with Congess to push it forward.

I think Ryan will have alot of influence as VP, kind of like Cheney.

Like I said, by making entitlement reform a big campaign issue Romney will have to follow up on it as President.

Just like he will have to do so with obamacare.

Things are looking up.

LevinFan on August 11, 2012 at 3:21 AM

And the poor soul will be forced by those nasty congress critters to change Obamacare into Romneycare National…against his will. /

sharrukin on August 11, 2012 at 3:20 AM

No no…it will be something he happily goes along with. And then many Republicans will be telling us what a good thing it is. Then, years later, when we criticize the Republicans in Congress who went along with it, we’ll be told “Hey, they didn’t want to rock the boat…they had no leadership roles”.

MadisonConservative on August 11, 2012 at 3:21 AM

The unemployment rate goes up and down, and the media is more than willing to tout 160,000 jobs created likes it significant progress for O, when we need more to the tune of 250,000 to have economic growth.

Picking Paul Ryan sends a message that this isn’t just about “the economy”, its about the federal deficit and big government, and how it is strangling the economy. That is the essential link in connecting our dismal economic performance to Obama’s presidency. Obama has run up more debt in three years than W did in eight. And unlike the unemployment rate, the debt is guaranteed to continue going up until November.

I also think there’s another angle to this. Romney has repeatedly made reference to the disaster that is Europe, and how the European entitlement society is Obama’s idea of “change.” I think Mitt believes that Europe’s collapse is the imminent “surprise” of the campaign, and they intend to bludgeon Obama with collapse of the European welfare state, and present Ryan’s plan as the solution to avoiding Europe’s fate in America.

Lawdawg86 on August 11, 2012 at 3:21 AM

I’m with you!..:)

Dire Straits on August 11, 2012 at 3:21 AM

Did you see my link?

annoyinglittletwerp on August 11, 2012 at 3:22 AM

to change Obamacare into Romneycare National…against his will. /

sharrukin on August 11, 2012 at 3:20 AM

No, because it won’t fit the wonky balance sheet. It’s dead.

John the Libertarian on August 11, 2012 at 3:22 AM

Are the comments not showing up for anyone else? arrghh!

LevinFan on August 11, 2012 at 3:19 AM

Yes! Have to refresh after commenting!!

What could be the problem?

Scrumpy on August 11, 2012 at 3:22 AM

LevinFan on August 11, 2012 at 3:21 AM

I’ll give you this: if Romney starts tackling entitlement reform, maybe this ticket will actually mean some good news for our financial situation, and I’ll happily eat my words.

Unfortunately, I think I’ll be hungry for quite a long time.

MadisonConservative on August 11, 2012 at 3:23 AM

canopfor on August 11, 2012 at 3:18 AM

Didn’t Ryan vote for one of those trillion dollar increases? How can he blame Obama when he votes for one of those? He’s a hypocrite on top of being a misogynist.

promachus on August 11, 2012 at 3:23 AM

Lawdawg86 on August 11, 2012 at 3:21 AM

I like what you say. Can you say it in 25 words or less?

John the Libertarian on August 11, 2012 at 3:24 AM

AllahsNippleHair on August 11, 2012 at 3:13 AM


I guess you could say I’ve had an attitude adjustment:)

MontanaMmmm on August 11, 2012 at 3:25 AM

promachus on August 11, 2012 at 3:23 AM

Waaah says promachus.

annoyinglittletwerp on August 11, 2012 at 3:26 AM

No no…it will be something he happily goes along with. And then many Republicans will be telling us what a good thing it is. Then, years later, when we criticize the Republicans in Congress who went along with it, we’ll be told “Hey, they didn’t want to rock the boat…they had no leadership roles”.

MadisonConservative on August 11, 2012 at 3:21 AM

Yeah and that will collapse the GOP.

Truth be told I think the last chance at turning things around was in 2008. There is no leadership in the GOP at all. They have assumed the role of the more moderate wing of the Democrat party.

sharrukin on August 11, 2012 at 3:26 AM

Anyway, night all. Between the longest work week of the year, Romney’s campaign staff of numbnuts, and a very pregnant budgie, I need sleep.

MadisonConservative on August 11, 2012 at 3:26 AM

AllahsNippleHair on August 11, 2012 at 2:51 AM

Well said. I actually work the night shift (working now).. but I will stay up when I get home to watch the big announcement…. really hope it is Ryan!

LevinFan on August 11, 2012 at 3:14 AM

Thank you. Romney wasn’t my first choice, but Ryan makes it palatable.
Satan would have my vote against Obama.

Alright. I’m out.
Goodnight!

AllahsNippleHair on August 11, 2012 at 3:27 AM

Come on, you’ve been here before, you can be appalled by you can’t be surprised.

Cindy Munford on August 11, 2012 at 3:05 AM

No not surprised, but usually this negativity (not suggesting who is on what side, just the type of comments) accompanies a Palin Thread.

HawaiiLwyr on August 11, 2012 at 3:27 AM

As if Romney’s misogynistic record was not enough, he’s added another misogynistic male chavunistic pig on the ticket. The war on women by GOP is real now. Expect many women to switch to vote to Dems now. This ticket will lose by historic proportions.

promachus on August 11, 2012 at 2:35 AM

Are you being serious or joking?

I remember you from when I was a lurker as being Palin supporter and she would not approve of such garbage like you posted above!

LevinFan on August 11, 2012 at 3:27 AM

Truth be told I think the last chance at turning things around was in 2008. There is no leadership in the GOP at all. They have assumed the role of the more moderate wing of the Democrat party.

sharrukin on August 11, 2012 at 3:26 AM

We werent preped for 2012 is all. Romney flooded the market with negative ads and burnt many houses metaphorically. He’s getting his comeupance. I’m fine if rubio is weak on immigration. Latinos arent monolithic like blacks, we can get them to our side.

Flapjackmaka on August 11, 2012 at 3:29 AM

to change Obamacare into Romneycare National…against his will. /

sharrukin on August 11, 2012 at 3:20 AM

No, because it won’t fit the wonky balance sheet. It’s dead.

John the Libertarian on August 11, 2012 at 3:22 AM

And where does all this fit in the wonky balance sheet?

Voted YES on TARP
Voted YES on Economic Stimulus HR 5140
Voted YES on $15B bailout for GM and Chrysler
Voted YES on $192B additional anti-recession stimulus spending
Voted YES on limited prescription drug benefit (Medicare Part D) for Medicare recipients.
Voted YES on extending unemployment benefits from 39 weeks to 59 weeks.
Voted YES on No Child Left Behind Act
Voted YES on increasing the debt ceiling

sharrukin on August 11, 2012 at 3:29 AM

So Ryan can’t run on his voting record, just good intentions? Man, I’ve heard it all now.

Dongemaharu on August 11, 2012 at 3:30 AM

Anyway, night all. Between the longest work week of the year, Romney’s campaign staff of numbnuts, and a very pregnant budgie, I need sleep.

MadisonConservative on August 11, 2012 at 3:26 AM

Your bird ain’t on birth control??? I hear it’s free if she’s an unmarried college chick. Enjoyed reading you, as always.

;)

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on August 11, 2012 at 3:30 AM

Rise of Teh Wonks!!!

John the Libertarian on August 11, 2012 at 3:31 AM

sharrukin on August 11, 2012 at 3:29 AM

I used to be seriously mystified why Romney would not go at Obama for the bailouts, deficits etc. This pick perfectly explains it. He has with one pick destroyed all rationale for attacking Obama.

promachus on August 11, 2012 at 3:33 AM

We werent preped for 2012 is all.

Flapjackmaka on August 11, 2012 at 3:29 AM

There was no one to run in 2012. The only one who had the slightest chance was chased off the GOP reservation. We had a collection of third stringers and weaklings, and unfortunately that all thats left in the GOP these days, because they do their best to weed out anyone who actually believes in something.

sharrukin on August 11, 2012 at 3:34 AM

*snore*

mythicknight on August 11, 2012 at 3:35 AM

Goodnight!

AllahsNippleHair on August 11, 2012 at 3:27 AM

Goodnight, and you too Dire:)

MontanaMmmm on August 11, 2012 at 3:35 AM

Psssh… we’ll just get Ryan to prance around on the beach shirtless and have him flash those big, bright blue eyes. :-)

Punchenko on August 11, 2012 at 3:07 AM

Aww, it’s like Romney’s younger doppelgänger :-) which makes ours the handsomest of the two tickets :-) ..I think the female kind will instantly forget about the war on women, contraception, misogyny and all and will be drawn to the Rep ticket :-) ….and hey, maybe we have just discovered the algorhythm to beat Obama, put two lookers on the ticket and hope for the best:-) the magnetism alone should do the trick :-)

jimver on August 11, 2012 at 3:36 AM

Remember Kemp?

Flapjackmaka on August 11, 2012 at 3:06 AM

I remember Bob Dole going up against a young, charismatic Southern politician who presided over a booming economy.

Punchenko on August 11, 2012 at 3:11 AM

Jack Kemp was far more important than Dole ever was.

The Importance of Jack Kemp
A bout with cancer hits a man who changed the world.

And that’s really not hyperbole.

…Kemp evolved into the enthusiastic godfather of what became known as “Reaganomics.” or, in its other, equally familiar designation, “supply-side” economics.

INC on August 11, 2012 at 3:37 AM

promachus:

You sound like a leftist hack saying this is about misogynmy!

Seriously that garbage belongs on the daily kos!

I really don’t think Palin wanted the job, otherwise she would’ve ran for the big job.

So other than Palin, there really isn’t many conservative females out there better than Ryan.

Ayotte?? Please! She was a supporter of Sotomayor and is buddies with McCain.

Enough with the identity politics.

LevinFan on August 11, 2012 at 3:37 AM

Stolen from Ace:
Cool Facts About Paul Ryan

I don’t think voters will have a problem with the Ryan budget. What I think they’ll have a problem with are his *murders.*

So:

Romney/Ryan slogan: “Let’s get America killing again”

He pushed grandma off a cliff, and all she could talk about was what a nice boy he was

Paul Ryan voted Prom King, Most Likely To Torture Dogs

Bio: Paul Ryan’s inaugural murder was December 8, 1989.

Bio: Paul Ryan acknowledged as expert in budget, ligatures

Dick Cheney taught George Bush how to murder. Paul Ryan taught Dick Cheney.

ANGUISHED SURVIVOR REVEALS: “ALL I HEARD WAS ‘HEY, GIRL’”

Paul Ryan has only two speeds: All-Out, and Murder.

Posted by: Ace at 03:11 AM

annoyinglittletwerp on August 11, 2012 at 3:38 AM

LevinFan on August 11, 2012 at 3:37 AM

I have explained him perfectly well on why I called him a misogynist. I am not left wing kook, but last four years have opened my eyes to misogyny particularly on the right and Paul Ryan is one through and through.

promachus on August 11, 2012 at 3:39 AM

LevinFan on August 11, 2012 at 3:37 AM

Thank you!

annoyinglittletwerp on August 11, 2012 at 3:39 AM

The only one who had the slightest chance was chased off the GOP reservation.

Who? Perry? If only he didnt do those debates. darn. At least in 2016 we have rubio, walker , jindal. The only one we seem to need to fend off is jeb bush.

Flapjackmaka on August 11, 2012 at 3:40 AM

I used to be seriously mystified why Romney would not go at Obama for the bailouts, deficits etc. This pick perfectly explains it. He has with one pick destroyed all rationale for attacking Obama.

promachus on August 11, 2012 at 3:33 AM

I have heard it called the Seinfeld Election…essentially about nothing and that’s not far off.

sharrukin on August 11, 2012 at 3:41 AM

Don’t know if anyone will see this, there are issues here at HA.

There are 23+ tracking cookies on here and I get thousands of temporary internet files dumped on my pc…

Haven’t found a virus or anything, but all this junk is clogging HA up and my pc.

I run Norton and CCleaner…

Scrumpy on August 11, 2012 at 3:42 AM

BTW it only happens when I sign in to comment, otherwise HA is fine. I can’t see any comments now…

Good night all… God Bless!!

Scrumpy on August 11, 2012 at 3:43 AM

Who? Perry? If only he didnt do those debates. darn. At least in 2016 we have rubio, walker , jindal. The only one we seem to need to fend off is jeb bush.

Flapjackmaka on August 11, 2012 at 3:40 AM

Palin and she didn’t care to run. None of those who did run ever had much of a chance.

sharrukin on August 11, 2012 at 3:44 AM

None of those who did run ever had much of a chance.

Yeah. I think we’ll get it in 2016. Democrat bench isnt as deep as ours. And I really only see Ginsberg retiring from the court. I doubt kennedy will retire.

I’m fine with not being 100% on immigration it isnt that much an issue for me

Flapjackmaka on August 11, 2012 at 3:47 AM

sharrukin on August 11, 2012 at 3:41 AM

I think it’s more like a Merovingian “war”, a ritually determined contest with predetermined rules and outcomes, all for seeing who takes more booty home.

promachus on August 11, 2012 at 3:48 AM

I have explained him perfectly well on why I called him a misogynist. I am not left wing kook, but last four years have opened my eyes to misogyny particularly on the right and Paul Ryan is one through and through.

promachus on August 11, 2012 at 3:39 AM

Please enlighten me.

In the words of Romney: “Put Up Or Shut Up!”

LevinFan on August 11, 2012 at 3:49 AM

I also think there’s another angle to this. Romney has repeatedly made reference to the disaster that is Europe, and how the European entitlement society is Obama’s idea of “change.” I think Mitt believes that Europe’s collapse is the imminent “surprise” of the campaign, and they intend to bludgeon Obama with collapse of the European welfare state, and present Ryan’s plan as the solution to avoiding Europe’s fate in America.

Lawdawg86 on August 11, 2012 at 3:21 AM

You know, you might be unto something there. I was more than surprised hearing Austan Goolsbee yesterday on Greta that he thinks Germany has between 3 and 6 months to decide if they continue to support the euro zone or get out of it all together, and preife over the ensuing mess….now, a lot of analysts basically said the same, with nouriel roubini and Soros eing perhaps the most vocal of them all, but somehow i didn’t expect Goolsbee to say unequivocally though….

jimver on August 11, 2012 at 3:56 AM

I think it’s more like a Merovingian “war”, a ritually determined contest with predetermined rules and outcomes, all for seeing who takes more booty home.

promachus on August 11, 2012 at 3:48 AM

Counting coup more than a difference in positions. Sounds about right.

sharrukin on August 11, 2012 at 3:56 AM

Preside over the ensong mess, that is…

jimver on August 11, 2012 at 3:57 AM

Palin and she didn’t care to run. None of those who did run ever had much of a chance.

sharrukin on August 11, 2012 at 3:44 AM

I agree with something you said for once!

Palin was the only one who really could’ve beaten Romney. She should’ve run but didn’t for whatever reason.

I mean Santorum came pretty close with hardly any money, I think Sarah would’ve had a ton of grassroots support and would’ve beaten him.

So if anyone’s really mad about Romney, they should be mad at Sarah for not running.

LevinFan on August 11, 2012 at 3:59 AM

Good thing Sarah Palin has proven herself such an inept judge of character with all her endorsements going bust like they have. Imagine what would happen if all the people she endorses actually get into office….

Yeah, just imagine that.

Harbingeing on August 11, 2012 at 3:59 AM

I like what you say. Can you say it in 25 words or less?

John the Libertarian on August 11, 2012 at 3:24 AM

Heh, thanks, here is the condensed version:

Obama = Bankrupt European welfare state, temporary jobs, government housing, and hand-washing dishes. Romney/Ryan = Balanced-budget opportunity society, careers, home-ownership, and flat-screen televisions.

Lawdawg86 on August 11, 2012 at 3:59 AM

I also think there’s another angle to this. Romney has repeatedly made reference to the disaster that is Europe, and how the European entitlement society is Obama’s idea of “change.” I think Mitt believes that Europe’s collapse is the imminent “surprise” of the campaign, and they intend to bludgeon Obama with collapse of the European welfare state, and present Ryan’s plan as the solution to avoiding Europe’s fate in America.

Lawdawg86 on August 11, 2012 at 3:21 AM

You know, you might be unto something there. I was more than surprised hearing Austan Goolsbee yesterday on Greta that he thinks Germany has between 3 and 6 months to decide if they continue to support the euro zone or get out of it all together, and preife over the ensuing mess….now, a lot of analysts basically said the same, with nouriel roubini and Soros eing perhaps the most vocal of them all, but somehow i didn’t expect Goolsbee to say unequivocally though….

jimver on August 11, 2012 at 3:56 AM

Very well said. That would be a brilliant campaign move!

LevinFan on August 11, 2012 at 4:00 AM

…Kemp evolved into the enthusiastic godfather of what became known as “Reaganomics.” or, in its other, equally familiar designation, “supply-side” economics.

INC on August 11, 2012 at 3:37 AM

One of my most cherished possessions is a (in hindsight, sloppy) package of signed cover letter, plus a stack of newspaper articles and ambitious proposal papers (which Mr. Kemp was unable to implement since he and Bob Dole never made it to the White House). That kind of human touch is impossible in today’s nasty, suspicious political climate. Nice memory of a truly good man!

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on August 11, 2012 at 4:01 AM

Did you see my link?

annoyinglittletwerp on August 11, 2012 at 3:22 AM

Yes I did!..Thumbs up!!!..:)

Dire Straits on August 11, 2012 at 4:03 AM

She should’ve run but didn’t for whatever reason.

We all know the reasons and she couldn’t take on the GOP and the Democrats at the same time.

I mean Santorum came pretty close with hardly any money, I think Sarah would’ve had a ton of grassroots support and would’ve beaten him.

So if anyone’s really mad about Romney, they should be mad at Sarah for not running.

LevinFan on August 11, 2012 at 3:59 AM

She would have been attacked by her own party just like we saw in 2008 and its still going on. Cheney being the most recent example.

No, I don’t blame her at all for not running as a Republican, any more than I blame her for not running as a Democrat.

sharrukin on August 11, 2012 at 4:06 AM

Yes I did!..Thumbs up!!!..:)

Dire Straits on August 11, 2012 at 4:03 AM

By about noon I’m gonna regret not getting any sleep. It’s worth it.

annoyinglittletwerp on August 11, 2012 at 4:09 AM

There was no one to run in 2012. The only one who had the slightest chance was chased off the GOP reservation.

sharrukin

Which is kind of ironic, considering folks like you insisted she was the only one with the courage to take it to the GOP establishment AND Obama, lol.

Ooops.

xblade on August 11, 2012 at 4:11 AM

Which is kind of ironic, considering folks like you insisted she was the only one with the courage to take it to the GOP establishment AND Obama, lol.

xblade on August 11, 2012 at 4:11 AM

No, we said she was the only one willing to take on Obama, but she obviously needed allies and we complained when the GOP made it clear they preferred Obama.

sharrukin on August 11, 2012 at 4:15 AM

She would have been attacked by her own party just like we saw in 2008 and its still going on. Cheney being the most recent example.

No, I don’t blame her at all for not running as a Republican, any more than I blame her for not running as a Democrat.

sharrukin on August 11, 2012 at 4:06 AM

Yes many in the GOPe would’ve been against her but let’s not get carried away here.

Palin had great grassroots support and I think she had enough of it to win both the primary and the General.

Is that what you’re supposed to do in the face of adversity? Quit? Seriously, I mean she fought the GOPe in Alaska, why give up now when your country needs you most?

LevinFan on August 11, 2012 at 4:17 AM

She would have been attacked by her own party just like we saw in 2008 and its still going on. Cheney being the most recent example.

sharrukin

lol…mama grizzly who took on all comers in Alaska, including her own party, is suddenly afraid of the GOP. What cajones she has.

Seriously, is there anything you folks won’t make up in defense of Palin?

xblade on August 11, 2012 at 4:18 AM

Toldjah

Was onboard early with Romney (tho I supported him back in 2008) and onboard early with Ryan.

I should play the the lottery tomorrow…

P.S. Could all those POTUS and V.P. candidate Hot Air polls been less accurate? …good grief people

The Ugly American on August 11, 2012 at 4:22 AM

Palin had great grassroots support and I think she had enough of it to win both the primary and the General.

LevinFan on August 11, 2012 at 4:17 AM

How well do you think Romney would be doing if Cheney had come out and said that he didn’t think Romney was qualified to be president?

Sorry but its disingenuous to suggest that the party has little or no influence in this decision. The Tea Party is grassroots as well and they aren’t making much headway either with the GOP. We have seen them sabotage or attempt to sabotage candidates time and time again. There is no way you can run a national campaign with that sort of behavior at your back.

sharrukin on August 11, 2012 at 4:25 AM

Aww, it’s like Romney’s younger doppelgänger :-) which makes ours the handsomest of the two tickets :-) ..I think the female kind will instantly forget about the war on women, contraception, misogyny and all and will be drawn to the Rep ticket :-) ….and hey, maybe we have just discovered the algorhythm to beat Obama, put two lookers on the ticket and hope for the best:-) the magnetism alone should do the trick :-)

jimver on August 11, 2012 at 3:36 AM

I remember when women went overwhelmingly for McCain/Palin because they wanted to see high heels sitting in the VP’s office.

Oh wait…

:-)

Punchenko on August 11, 2012 at 4:35 AM

How well do you think Romney would be doing if Cheney had come out and said that he didn’t think Romney was qualified to be president?

Sorry but its disingenuous to suggest that the party has little or no influence in this decision. The Tea Party is grassroots as well and they aren’t making much headway either with the GOP. We have seen them sabotage or attempt to sabotage candidates time and time again. There is no way you can run a national campaign with that sort of behavior at your back.

sharrukin on August 11, 2012 at 4:25 AM

Is the answer to fight or to give up?

Seriously, she should’ve had that fight, many people like you and I, the grassroots would’ve had her back.

LevinFan on August 11, 2012 at 4:37 AM

Is that what you’re supposed to do in the face of adversity? Quit? Seriously, I mean she fought the GOPe in Alaska, why give up now when your country needs you most?

LevinFan on August 11, 2012 at 4:17 AM

She couldn’t win with only the base, and probably knew it. But PDSers. moderates, and establishment snobs who make up the rest of the GOP who do nothing but give her grief are suddenly complaining about her not running. Please tell me other fairy tales about party unity if Palin had run.

Dongemaharu on August 11, 2012 at 4:38 AM

Hopefully the issues with hotair get fixed soon, it’s getting really annoying with the comments not appearing, having to hit refresh 5X in a row.

LevinFan on August 11, 2012 at 4:38 AM

She couldn’t win with only the base, and probably knew it. But PDSers. moderates, and establishment snobs who make up the rest of the GOP who do nothing but give her grief are suddenly complaining about her not running. Please tell me other fairy tales about party unity if Palin had run.

Dongemaharu on August 11, 2012 at 4:38 AM

Don’t lump me into that boat. I wanted nothing more than for her to run and was a regular on C4P throughout 2011.

I still admire Sarah but I still think she could’ve run. I mean Santorum almost pulled it off, you gonna tell me Sarah couldn’t have done better than him?

LevinFan on August 11, 2012 at 4:40 AM

Again the GOPe would’ve fought dirty against Sarah in the primary but she could’ve done better than Santorum did who had hardly any money.

And once she got the nomination what’s the GOPe going to do? Support obama instead?? Come on now!

Anyways, I’ll be very happy if Ryan is the VP pick.

LevinFan on August 11, 2012 at 4:42 AM

OK, let’s assume this is a real deal, not a bogus rumor.

What happens to Paul Ryan’s congressional seat? Does he have to step down from the ballot and someone else replace him or is he still on the ballot in spite of being the VP candidate?

karenhasfreedom on August 11, 2012 at 4:43 AM

P.S. Could all those POTUS and V.P. candidate Hot Air polls been less accurate? …good grief people

The Ugly American on August 11, 2012 at 4:22 AM

I voted for Ryan in every one of em :)

LevinFan on August 11, 2012 at 4:43 AM

And once she got the nomination what’s the GOPe going to do? Support obama instead?? Come on now!

LevinFan on August 11, 2012 at 4:42 AM

Thats exactly what many of them did in 2008.

sharrukin on August 11, 2012 at 4:45 AM

Hopefully the issues with hotair get fixed soon, it’s getting really annoying with the comments not appearing, having to hit refresh 5X in a row.

LevinFan on August 11, 2012 at 4:38 AM

I’m afraid you must take it personally. I’ve had no such problems, and have read of nonesuch from anyone else on this loooooong thread. Might it be your internet provider? Your ‘puter or source device?

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on August 11, 2012 at 4:46 AM

And once she got the nomination what’s the GOPe going to do? Support obama instead?? Come on now!

LevinFan on August 11, 2012 at 4:42 AM

That’s exactly what they’d have done. They would have sabotaged her ticket in the general. Simple as that.

promachus on August 11, 2012 at 4:49 AM

I love Ryan, but he’s a mistake as VP. A VP choice never wins an election, but it CAN lose one, so get ready for 3 months of DNC-backed Mediscaring.

Good Solid B-Plus on August 11, 2012 at 4:49 AM

OK, let’s assume this is a real deal, not a bogus rumor.

What happens to Paul Ryan’s congressional seat? Does he have to step down from the ballot and someone else replace him or is he still on the ballot in spite of being the VP candidate?

karenhasfreedom on August 11, 2012 at 4:43 AM

Yeah. It’s real. Earlier, Madison Conservative was worried that his ethically-challenged ex-Governor Tommy Thompson would be chosen to plug the Congressional hole Paul Ryan is leaving behind.

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on August 11, 2012 at 4:51 AM

OK, let’s assume this is a real deal, not a bogus rumor.

What happens to Paul Ryan’s congressional seat? Does he have to step down from the ballot and someone else replace him or is he still on the ballot in spite of being the VP candidate?

karenhasfreedom on August 11, 2012 at 4:43 AM

I think someone else has to run in his place.

Maybe put Bachmann or Louie Gohmart in Ryan’s place from the House Budget Committee.

I like alot of what you have to say Karen, do you like Ryan as VP?

If not who would you have preferred?

LevinFan on August 11, 2012 at 4:52 AM

I’m sure folks in certain Evangelical circles will love having a devout Mormon with a devout Catholic to vote for. ;>)

Darren on August 11, 2012 at 4:56 AM

That’s exactly what they’d have done. They would have sabotaged her ticket in the general. Simple as that.

promachus on August 11, 2012 at 4:49 AM

I don’t believe they would go that far to sabotage Palin to get obama reelected.

I’m still waiting for you to take back your nonsense about Ryan being a misogynist pick.

Who would you have preferred? And no I don’t think Palin wanted the job.

LevinFan on August 11, 2012 at 4:56 AM

I love Ryan, but he’s a mistake as VP. A VP choice never wins an election, but it CAN lose one, so get ready for 3 months of DNC-backed Mediscaring.

Good Solid B-Plus on August 11, 2012 at 4:49 AM

Sounds like concern trolling to me.

Rubio ran on reforming entitlements in FLORIDA and he did pretty well!

It’s a major issue we need to tackle now, kudos for Romney if Ryan is the guy.

LevinFan on August 11, 2012 at 4:57 AM

LevinFan on August 11, 2012 at 4:56 AM

The only one who could have gotten me involved was Palin but I would have accepted Scoot Walker, Newt Gingrich and others who have not trashed Gov.Palin either personally or through their surrogates.

promachus on August 11, 2012 at 4:58 AM

He made the right pick. I am not going to vote for either of the dbags, neither Romney or Obama, but out of his choices that was by far the best pick. Glad he didn’t pander, but unfortunately Ryan’s running mate really looks like another dull, I mean Dole.

Ryan better not give up his seat.

LevStrauss on August 11, 2012 at 5:00 AM

Of course if you go back to the tape I also thought Palin was a good pick until she opened her mouth. Something makes me I won’t have the same buyers remorse over Ryan.

LevStrauss on August 11, 2012 at 5:01 AM

I still admire Sarah but I still think she could’ve run. I mean Santorum almost pulled it off, you gonna tell me Sarah couldn’t have done better than him?

LevinFan on August 11, 2012 at 4:40 AM

No, no. She could have done very well at the least. I think she could have gotten the nomination, sans major gaffe(which ruined almost everyone else running). I think the base has too much power in the primaries to allow the establishment to sabotage a competent conservative candidate.

Anyway, the national election is where all the action would have been. Too many of all those people I mentioned before would have hurt her chances. I mean, it would be against their own interests for Republicans who want to keep the same political system in place. If she were elected, their way of life would change dramatically. So why not derail her during the national, watch her lose, then try for a more establishment type again next time?

I wish she had run, even though I wasn’t so sure she could win. The reason is, I wanted a clear choice. I wanted to dare people to keep Obama in office simply because they didn’t like Palin’s MSM image.

Dongemaharu on August 11, 2012 at 5:01 AM

promachus on August 11, 2012 at 4:58 AM

Because the world revolves around Sarah Palin..
*PALIN supports Ryan*

annoyinglittletwerp on August 11, 2012 at 5:03 AM

Oh, and Ryan? I couldn’t care less what the media will do to him. They don’t control my actions and the GOP needs to start fighting the media instead of cowering to their threats.

What I’m worried about is Ryan’s voting record, which does actually count for something. He seems like a nice guy, and maybe he can introduce some fiscal responsibility, like he’s been talking about. But whatever. It’s not like I have a choice but to wait and see what Romney and Ryan would do in office.

Dongemaharu on August 11, 2012 at 5:09 AM

Sounds like concern trolling to me.

Rubio ran on reforming entitlements in FLORIDA and he did pretty well!

It’s a major issue we need to tackle now, kudos for Romney if Ryan is the guy.

LevinFan on August 11, 2012 at 4:57 AM

Then maybe you need to get your hearing checked.

Acknowledging the truth isn’t concern trolling. This just opens up the Romney ticket to more smears, and unfortunately, smears work. The tax-return bull****, the Bain ads, and now Mediscaring on top of it.

Better to choose a milquetoast like Portman who might be worth .5 points in a swing state like Ohio. All that does is open Romney up to “Bush 3.0″ ads, but so what? Lots of people would prefer Bush 3.0 to Obama 2.0.

Good Solid B-Plus on August 11, 2012 at 5:13 AM

I’m sure folks in certain Evangelical circles will love having a devout Mormon with a devout Catholic to vote for. ;>)

Darren on August 11, 2012 at 4:56 AM

I fiercely believe you are wrong. I don’t believe that backward prejudices drive any but the “small” anymore. America is braver and bigger than that!

:)

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on August 11, 2012 at 5:19 AM

Then maybe you need to get your hearing checked.

Acknowledging the truth isn’t concern trolling. This just opens up the Romney ticket to more smears, and unfortunately, smears work. The tax-return bull****, the Bain ads, and now Mediscaring on top of it.

Better to choose a milquetoast like Portman who might be worth .5 points in a swing state like Ohio. All that does is open Romney up to “Bush 3.0″ ads, but so what? Lots of people would prefer Bush 3.0 to Obama 2.0.

Good Solid B-Plus on August 11, 2012 at 5:13 AM

So you mean it’s better to be a wimp b/c you’re afraid of how the left will attack you?

yeah that’s the way to try to win!!

You’re not listening. Rubio ran on entitlement reform in FLA and WON!!

It’s crucial issue that we can’t keep kicking the can down the road on. Let’s debate if we’re a nation of takers or makers.

Don’t be such a coward!

And with that…. I’m out for now!

LevinFan on August 11, 2012 at 5:21 AM

Romney is a RINO, okay we get it. But… Ryan is the real deal. I could really get into the idea of 8 years of Romney tacking ever so gently to the right and THEN 8 years of Ryan to set the ship on the right course. Oh yah.

Ryan turned down a presidential run due to family concerns but he’s every conservative’s dream candidate.

Mojave Mark on August 11, 2012 at 5:25 AM

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