The Romney campaign has really taken “lying” to a “new level,” or something

posted at 12:01 pm on August 9, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

On MSNBC last night, Ed Schultz and E.J. Dionne argued that the Romney campaign’s argument against President Obama’s welfare adjustments plays into “old racial politics about poverty” and relies upon a level of blatant deception hitherto unknown in presidential campaigns. And, before you ask, why yes — this is coming just after Team Obama basically insinuated that Mitt Romney’s factory closures are at fault for workers’ and their families’ premature deaths.

“And finally, have we every seen a campaign lie this much?”

“You know, I was thinking about that, Ed, and I’ve covered a lot of campaigns and a lot of pretty vicious campaigns. But it does seem, I mean the way Romney kind of takes Obama’s statements and clips out the heart of them and strings together sentences…”

“They’ve taken it to a new level?”

“Yeah, I think this, I think really, this is a new level, and I’m not given to saying stuff like that.”

Uh huh. Speaking of taking liberties with your opponents reform plans, what was it the Obama campaign was saying about Mitt Romney’s tax proposals the other day? From the WSJ:

The charge is that even though Mr. Romney is proposing to cut tax rates for everybody across the board, Mr. Romney will finance this by imposing a tax increase on the middle class. His evidence is a single study by the Tax Policy Center, a liberal think tank that has long opposed cutting income tax rates.

The political left always says Daddy Warbucks gets all the tax-cut money. So this is hardly news, except that the media are treating this joint Brookings Institution and Urban Institute analysis as if it’s nonpartisan gospel. In fact, it’s a highly ideological tract based on false assumptions, incomplete data and dishonest analysis. In other words, it is custom made for the Obama campaign. …

So on four separate occasions what TPC says is “mathematically impossible”—cutting tax rates and making the tax system more progressive—actually happened. Hats off to the scholars at TPC: Their study manages to claim that what happens in real life can’t happen in theory.

The TPC analysis also fails to acknowledge how highly dependent the current tax system is on the very rich. As the Tax Foundation explains in a recent report based on CBO data: “The top 20 percent of households pay 94 percent of federal income taxes. The bottom 40 percent have a negative income tax rate, and the middle quintile pays close to zero.”

This reality is treated as a state secret in Washington because it refutes Mr. Obama’s campaign theme that the rich are undertaxed. The same crowd that has been howling that the rich don’t pay their fair share of taxes now touts a study concluding that cutting taxes will only benefit the rich. Well, which is it?

A whole “new level” of lying, indeed.


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this is coming just after Team Obama basically insinuated that Mitt Romney’s factory closures are at fault for workers’ and their families’ premature deaths.

Stop calling them “Mitt Romney’s factory closures.” He wasn’t even at Bain when they occurred.

steebo77 on August 9, 2012 at 12:02 PM

MSNBC is on the air still? Surprising.

lorien1973 on August 9, 2012 at 12:03 PM

That’s what E. J. Dionne looks like? What a wuss…

The heftiest object that guy could lift is a pencil, so I guess it’s good for him that he makes a living writing.

beatcanvas on August 9, 2012 at 12:04 PM

Yeah, that’s what happened. Next!

SailorMark on August 9, 2012 at 12:04 PM

un-f–king-real, the schadenfreude on election night gonna be so much sweeter than even the midterms was.

gsherin on August 9, 2012 at 12:05 PM

I’m sure Current TV had a lively discussion as well and just as relevant.

NoDonkey on August 9, 2012 at 12:05 PM

“They’ve taken it to a new level?”

Yea because the Obama administration claiming Romney is a tax cheat…..a felon….and now a murderer is just status quo right genius.

Baxter Greene on August 9, 2012 at 12:05 PM

That WSJ piece is libtard kryptonite.

Kataklysmic on August 9, 2012 at 12:06 PM

So what does EJ have to say about the Bill Burton ad? Just about every lib in the country has decried it.

Another reason to hate that grinning fruit.

MadisonConservative on August 9, 2012 at 12:06 PM

That’s what E. J. Dionne looks like? What a wuss…

It is always a let down to see these people in person isn’t it?

Though, it’s funny that all the liberal heroes are a bunch of 80 year old white guys.

lorien1973 on August 9, 2012 at 12:06 PM

That’s what E. J. Dionne looks like? What a wuss…

The heftiest object that guy could lift is a pencil, so I guess it’s good for him that he makes a living writing.

beatcanvas on August 9, 2012 at 12:04 PM

Just call him Eugene.

And yes, this is all ad hominem but they started it.

Drained Brain on August 9, 2012 at 12:07 PM

That’s what E. J. Dionne looks like? What a wuss…

beatcanvas on August 9, 2012 at 12:04 PM

Nice to have the quality and substance of the counter argument here so clearly represented.

verbaluce on August 9, 2012 at 12:07 PM

So on four separate occasions what TPC says is “mathematically impossible”—cutting tax rates and making the tax system more progressive—actually happened. Hats off to the scholars at TPC: Their study manages to claim that what happens in real life can’t happen in theory.

The TPC analysis also fails to acknowledge how highly dependent the current tax system is on the very rich. As the Tax Foundation explains in a recent report based on CBO data: “The top 20 percent of households pay 94 percent of federal income taxes. The bottom 40 percent have a negative income tax rate, and the middle quintile pays close to zero.”

↑↑↑ Any lib trolls care to take a crack at this?

Kataklysmic on August 9, 2012 at 12:07 PM

E J stands for Extraordinary Jackass.

Fuquay Steve on August 9, 2012 at 12:09 PM

The State media are neither more nor less then the campaign mouth pieces for Barack Obama. They should be treated as such.

18-1 on August 9, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Heh, look who’s talking. These two blowhards are the part of reason we have fact check today.

antipc on August 9, 2012 at 12:10 PM

E.J. Dionne, suffocate from eating Obama’s sh*t, mistaking it for Beluga caviar.

A leftist talking head on Fox just said that indeed Mitt’s activities did cause cancer for thousands and that Cutter had nothing to do with the creation of the ad/s. When asked if it w/b ok for the other side to create ads which say that “1000s have gotten sick and died due to Obama’s policies” she said it was in the works.

The left are all degenerates. So long as Obama enjoyes this he is the Degenerate Pimp. He owns them all. Be proud, you desroyer of all decency in the land.

In the meanwhile he and Michelle lament that she doesn’t get paid for eating lobsters and arugula, while you eat Spam, instead of considering it a privilege to be there, the swine.

What’s next? That all the wives/husbands of the congresscritters get paid for sucking on the land’s teet?

May the all spontaneously combust, foremost the media for dereliction of duty.

Schadenfreude on August 9, 2012 at 12:10 PM

That is one remarkably well-preserved 200 year-old eunuch, that EJ Dionne…

Jeddite on August 9, 2012 at 12:10 PM

Ah yes the old accuse your opponents of doing what it is you are actually doing.

bgibbs1000 on August 9, 2012 at 12:11 PM

That’s what E. J. Dionne looks like? What a wuss…

The heftiest object that guy could lift is a pencil, so I guess it’s good for him that he makes a living writing.

beatcanvas on August 9, 2012 at 12:04 PM

Just call him Eugene.

And yes, this is all ad hominem but they started it.

Drained Brain on August 9, 2012 at 12:07 PM

I call him B.J.

BTW for some fun reading go way back to the days when B.J. “wrote” for the NY Times. He got many Page 1 stories.

Del Dolemonte on August 9, 2012 at 12:11 PM

destroyer of all decency…He has turned the land into a latrine.

Vote him out or live in the stench.

Schadenfreude on August 9, 2012 at 12:11 PM

Both of the people watching the Ed Show last night have swallowed this meme whole.

Maybe we’ll to need to worry if Ed ever gets an audience.

applebutter on August 9, 2012 at 12:11 PM

They imply that Romney is a racist. A smear, and Mitt needs to smear back. Arguably today’s news about the economy is good, suggesting that we need to widen the attack beyond the economy to other issues: Romney’s a racist they may shamelessly and falsely imply, but O is a radical, and that is true. Talk about welfare and individual issues, but weave that into a disturbing tapestry of a wider picture of the extreme and dangerous O. It’s important to talk about the fearful consequences of a second term. Fear is needed to move these complacent happy-go-lucky voters.

anotherJoe on August 9, 2012 at 12:11 PM

{A whole “new level” of lying, indeed.}
When you control the press at all levels, you control what is and isn’t a lie. Obama never lies, he just doesn’t make fact-based statements. Same goes for anyone with a (D) next to their name.
Now if you aren’t a lib, you better be able to answer 444 times 999 times 1.43928 divided by x equaling y on the fly while standing on your head and kissing a baby or else you’re deceiving the American people or just too stupid to be elected.

smfic on August 9, 2012 at 12:12 PM

Alinskyites in action…

d1carter on August 9, 2012 at 12:12 PM

That’s what E. J. Dionne looks like? What a wuss…

beatcanvas on August 9, 2012 at 12:04 PM

Before surgery

cozmo on August 9, 2012 at 12:12 PM

Right. It’s the Romney campaign that’s lying, while the Priorities USA smear is…what, exactly? Acceptable? A-OK?

changer1701 on August 9, 2012 at 12:13 PM

Oh, and another point to add.

The Republicans haven’t nominated a right of center candidate since Reagan (Bush 43 talked a big game but governed pretty much dead center). And yet the State Media and the Democrats keep calling Romney an extremist. Yet his political positions put him significantly to the left of the American mainstream.

He is, as Newt noted, a *Massachusetts* moderate.

18-1 on August 9, 2012 at 12:13 PM

Food Stamp President.

The Count on August 9, 2012 at 12:13 PM

Nice to have the quality and substance of the counter argument here so clearly represented.

verbaluce on August 9, 2012 at 12:07 PM

What’s to argue? Lying liars telling each other lies. The only question is why? What is the point of attacking any Romney commercials when your side has reached a new low in lying attack ads? You don’t have the high ground here.

Night Owl on August 9, 2012 at 12:14 PM

Look in any Webster’s Dictionary under the word “gasbag”.

E.J. Dionne’s picture will likely be next to the definition.

pilamaye on August 9, 2012 at 12:14 PM

New Ad:

Romney killed Twinkle Toes Dionne

Resist We Much on August 9, 2012 at 12:15 PM

And that’s why Romney causes cancer.

Jim Treacher on August 9, 2012 at 12:16 PM

E J stands for Extraordinary Jackass.

Fuquay Steve on August 9, 2012 at 12:09 PM

I mistakenly thought it stands for Effeminated Jerk.

bayview on August 9, 2012 at 12:16 PM

Stop calling them “Mitt Romney’s factory closures.” He wasn’t even at Bain when they occurred.

steebo77 on August 9, 2012 at 12:02 PM

Their plan is working. We are stupid.

faraway on August 9, 2012 at 12:16 PM

Pot meet Kettle….

Whose projection is that I see in the mirror?

dentarthurdent on August 9, 2012 at 12:16 PM

Nice to have the quality and substance of the counter argument here so clearly represented.

verbaluce on August 9, 2012 at 12:07 PM

I was wondering when the libby trolls would finally arive. That’s the best you have? Better go check your emails for the azzelrod updates.

VegasRick on August 9, 2012 at 12:17 PM

It mazes me that these Bolshviks are such oddballs and speak for the same ideology. Ed Schults is a loud mouth obnoxious leftist that is far removed from reality and EJ Dionne is a mealy-mouthed sissy toad with his head up Obama’s spincter.

ObamatheMessiah on August 9, 2012 at 12:17 PM

“There’s no place like Washington, DC.
There’s no place like Washington, DC.”

- EJ Dionne, as he clicks the heels of his ruby-red slippers together three times

Resist We Much on August 9, 2012 at 12:17 PM

Ed Schultz, late in the evening, 11/06/2012:

I’m gonna torch this freaking place!!!

JohnGalt23 on August 9, 2012 at 12:17 PM

verbaluce on August 9, 2012 at 12:07 PM

Degenerate pervert

Schadenfreude on August 9, 2012 at 12:17 PM

Stop calling them “Mitt Romney’s factory closures.” He wasn’t even at Bain when they occurred.

steebo77 on August 9, 2012 at 12:02 PM

Second that. We start repeating falsehoods about Romney being a factory closer and it’s over. Major gaffe.

The whole point of that ridiculous ad is to spread the factory closer narrative, not necessarily to get people to believe Romney caused anyone’s death.

forest on August 9, 2012 at 12:18 PM

So accusing Romney of killing someone and being a felon is not a lie, but taking what Obama says or does and highlighting it is a lie?

What planet are we now living on?

milcus on August 9, 2012 at 12:18 PM

So I guess it’s going to be another he said she said routine. The bottom line is there are to many people taking advantage of the welfare system. The numbers speak for themselves.

DDay on August 9, 2012 at 12:19 PM

Better go check your emails for the azzelrod updates.

VegasRick on August 9, 2012 at 12:17 PM

S/b Axel-rod. Plus, they work in shifts, the little Eichmanns.

Schadenfreude on August 9, 2012 at 12:19 PM

this is coming just after Team Obama basically insinuated that Mitt Romney’s factory closures are at fault for workers’ and their families’ premature deaths.

Stop calling them “Mitt Romney’s factory closures.” He wasn’t even at Bain when they occurred.

steebo77 on August 9, 2012 at 12:02 PM

What’s more, the plants weren’t closed because they were profitable. Companies aren’t in business to provide jobs. They are in business to make money. Jobs are created because they enable the business to make more money than they could with fewer employees.

Most likely, social security-style, fixed benefit pension programs were the cause of the plant closures. That is what bankrupted GM. That is what is bankrupting cities across California.

The economy is driven by productivity, not spending. Spreading the wealth around creates stagnation, as we saw with Jimmy Carter and as we are seeing now.

kbTexan on August 9, 2012 at 12:20 PM

Nice to have the quality and substance of the counter argument here so clearly represented.

verbaluce on August 9, 2012 at 12:07 PM

So the original argument from the left can be as dirty, unethical, and dishonest as they want – but our counter arguments are held to a higher standard?
Thanks for exemplifying the left’s double standard for all to see.

dentarthurdent on August 9, 2012 at 12:21 PM

MSNBC is on the air still? Surprising.

As long as Tingles is alive and still has a leg…MSNBC is still on the air.

logicman_1998 on August 9, 2012 at 12:21 PM

S/b Axel-rod. Plus, they work in shifts, the little Eichmanns.

Schadenfreude on August 9, 2012 at 12:19 PM

Ah!

VegasRick on August 9, 2012 at 12:22 PM

Off Topic: It turns out Fast & Furious was not about trafficking guns. The scale and audacity of the operation would put Iran-Contras scandal to shame.

Archivarix on August 9, 2012 at 12:10 PM

I despise Obama and Holder, but even this one is tripping my bulls**t detector.

If true…my god…the nation will explode.

MadisonConservative on August 9, 2012 at 12:23 PM

As long as Tingles is alive and still has a leg…
logicman_1998 on August 9, 2012 at 12:21 PM

And after November it will be up to Rachel Maddow to provide that.

cozmo on August 9, 2012 at 12:23 PM

Tried to watch the clip but I can’t look at that Schultz moron for more than a couple of seconds before I’m diving for the pause icon.

Murf76 on August 9, 2012 at 12:24 PM

The First couples of N. Korea and the USA live similarly in bad times.

The big difference is that the USA freely elected Louis XV and Madame de Pompadour and the poor people in N. Korea are forced to live under their emperors.

Schadenfreude on August 9, 2012 at 12:24 PM

That’s what E. J. Dionne looks like? What a wuss…

The heftiest object that guy could lift is a pencil, so I guess it’s good for him that he makes a living writing.

beatcanvas on August 9, 2012 at 12:04 PM

E. J. makes Harry Reid look like the Incredible Hulk.

Myron Falwell on August 9, 2012 at 12:25 PM

Clearly some people just can’t bear the thought of a Mormon becoming President. Bwahahahaha

rhombus on August 9, 2012 at 12:26 PM

If true…my god…the nation will explode.

MadisonConservative on August 9, 2012 at 12:23 PM

No she won’t – she has become a nation of idiots…enjoy Rome II, just with a faster end.

Schadenfreude on August 9, 2012 at 12:26 PM

I despise Obama and Holder, but even this one is tripping my bulls**t detector.

If true…my god…the nation will explode.

MadisonConservative on August 9, 2012 at 12:23 PM

Think that through. With what is known about both programs it should have over loaded any BS detector.

cozmo on August 9, 2012 at 12:27 PM

dentarthurdent on August 9, 2012 at 12:21 PM

The left are all degenerates now.

Schadenfreude on August 9, 2012 at 12:27 PM

“And finally, have we every seen a campaign lie this much?”

“You know, I was thinking about that, Ed, and I’ve covered a lot of campaigns and a lot of pretty vicious campaigns. But it does seem, I mean the way Romney kind of takes Obama’s statements and clips out the heart of them and strings together sentences…”

“They’ve taken it to a new level?”

“Yeah, I think this, I think really, this is a new level, and I’m not given to saying stuff like that.”

“Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.” ~ Whittaker Chambers

Flora Duh on August 9, 2012 at 12:28 PM

Just call him Eugene.

And yes, this is all ad hominem but they started it.

Drained Brain on August 9, 2012 at 12:07 PM

He’s a cool dude in a loose mood

Sekhmet on August 9, 2012 at 12:29 PM

The left are all degenerates now.

Schadenfreude on August 9, 2012 at 12:27 PM

Now? I don’t think that’s new.

dentarthurdent on August 9, 2012 at 12:29 PM

Think that through. With what is known about both programs it should have over loaded any BS detector.

cozmo on August 9, 2012 at 12:27 PM

The programs reek of incompetence and gun politics to me. I would need more evidence to actually think these people made a deal with a drug cartel to allow them to carry out their business.

MadisonConservative on August 9, 2012 at 12:31 PM

Ahhhhh yes, Ed (I’ll take a TORCH to this effing studio)
Schultz!

Good times, good times.

ToddPA on August 9, 2012 at 12:33 PM

The State media are neither more nor less then the campaign mouth pieces for Barack Obama. They should be treated as such.

18-1 on August 9, 2012 at 12:09 PM


“The press should be not only a collective propagandist and a collective agitator, but also a collective organizer of the masses.”
~ Vladimir Lenin

Flora Duh on August 9, 2012 at 12:33 PM

All who voted for Obama are mentally crippled (un-PC on purpose).

Schadenfreude on August 9, 2012 at 12:33 PM

Nice to have the quality and substance of the counter argument here so clearly represented.

verbaluce on August 9, 2012 at 12:07 PM

To add to the sheer weight of my argument, I posit that E. J. is short – and I do mean short – for “Emasculated Johnson.”

What do you think?

beatcanvas on August 9, 2012 at 12:33 PM

All who voted for Obama are mentally crippled (un-PC on purpose).

Schadenfreude on August 9, 2012 at 12:33 PM

REomney kilt da handikapped adz in 5..4…3…

VegasRick on August 9, 2012 at 12:37 PM

The programs reek of incompetence and gun politics to me.
MadisonConservative on August 9, 2012 at 12:31 PM

No doubt with Fast & Furious, a possibility with Linebacker.

With that said, this guy was caught by the Mexicans early in 2009. It was a year later when he was extradited to the US.

He would have had to had upfront knowledge of F&F, maybe even put the deal together. It makes his capture, Mexico being able to keep him jailed and the US wanting him here seem rather odd.

cozmo on August 9, 2012 at 12:37 PM

Degenerate pervert

Schadenfreude on August 9, 2012 at 12:17 PM

I resent being called a degenerate.

verbaluce on August 9, 2012 at 12:37 PM

..in a perfect world, this blowhard ED will vapor lock on nationwide TV on the evening of November 6th. Sure gonna be fun to watch.

The War Planner on August 9, 2012 at 12:38 PM

I resent being called a degenerate.

verbaluce on August 9, 2012 at 12:37 PM

..it’s a tautology, dummy!

The War Planner on August 9, 2012 at 12:39 PM

To add to the sheer weight of my argument, I posit that E. J. is short – and I do mean short – for “Emasculated Johnson.”

What do you think?

beatcanvas on August 9, 2012 at 12:33 PM

Well it doesn’t take away…

verbaluce on August 9, 2012 at 12:39 PM

To add to the sheer weight of my argument, I posit that E. J. is short – and I do mean short – for “Emasculated Johnson.”

What do you think?

beatcanvas on August 9, 2012 at 12:33 PM

..ERADICATED?

The War Planner on August 9, 2012 at 12:41 PM

I resent being called a degenerate.

verbaluce on August 9, 2012 at 12:37 PM

But revel in Romney being accused of murder.

Degenerate hypocrite.

cozmo on August 9, 2012 at 12:41 PM

E J stands for Extraordinary Jackass.

Fuquay Steve on August 9, 2012 at 12:09 PM
I mistakenly thought it stands for Effeminated Jerk.

bayview on August 9, 2012 at 12:16 PM

I would leave off the “d” and make it “Effeminate Jerk” Dionne. Has a good and appropriate ring to it.

He must have barely missed getting the role of Truman Capote in the movies.

You could barely hear his voice in the clip over the chirping crickets.

OneVision on August 9, 2012 at 12:41 PM

I resent being called a degenerate.

verbaluce on August 9, 2012 at 12:37 PM

All on the left are degenerates now, until Obama reestablishes even a semblance of decency in the country.

Until then, you are ALL degenerates, with him your Degeneracy Pimp.

Schadenfreude on August 9, 2012 at 12:42 PM

What’s more, the plants weren’t closed because they were profitable. Companies aren’t in business to provide jobs. They are in business to make money. Jobs are created because they enable the business to make more money than they could with fewer employees.

Most likely, social security-style, fixed benefit pension programs were the cause of the plant closures. That is what bankrupted GM. That is what is bankrupting cities across California.

The economy is driven by productivity, not spending. Spreading the wealth around creates stagnation, as we saw with Jimmy Carter and as we are seeing now.

kbTexan on August 9, 2012 at 12:20 PM

Very well said, I agree 100%

LevinFan on August 9, 2012 at 12:44 PM

Big Ed, on his own show a while back, said he would absolutely cheat ( and break the law ) to win an election against a Republican.
After that, nothing he says really matters. Does it ?
Same for any “guests” he has.

Jabberwock on August 9, 2012 at 12:44 PM

If true…my god…the nation will explode.

MadisonConservative on August 9, 2012 at 12:23 PM

If true, I think basically nothing will happen. It won’t be reported for the most part and only grassroots party activists will probably know about it. I’ll be surprised if the F&F investigation even continues past November to be honest.

Doomberg on August 9, 2012 at 12:44 PM

The left are all degenerates now.

Schadenfreude on August 9, 2012 at 12:27 PM

Now? I don’t think that’s new.

dentarthurdent on August 9, 2012 at 12:29 PM

Obama and his little Axel-rods have elevated the status to the maximum.

Schadenfreude on August 9, 2012 at 12:45 PM

“Yeah, I think this, I think really, this is a new level, and I’m not given to saying stuff like that.”

Um, yeah you are. That’s your modus operandi. It’s the label on your scrap book.

It’s why you’re were the go-to guy for this guest slot on MSNBC, I mean, other than being on Ed’s ‘no doubt about it’ file for Yesmen on Ed’s show.

Dusty on August 9, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Come on, we’re talking about Ed Schultz here. The only thing this putrid scumbag is fit to do is suck on the open end of a loaded shotgun.

Wolfmoon on August 9, 2012 at 12:46 PM

I’ll be surprised if the F&F investigation even continues past November to be honest.

Doomberg on August 9, 2012 at 12:44 PM

I think you’ll be surprised then.

Unless 0bama issues many pardons to end the criminal prosecutions before they start.

I want to know if he will resign early so slo-Joe can issue him one.

cozmo on August 9, 2012 at 12:47 PM

The only thing this putrid scumbag is fit to do is suck on the open end of a loaded shotgun.

Wolfmoon on August 9, 2012 at 12:46 PM

I hope not. I want him to become the face of the left during the Romney administration.

cozmo on August 9, 2012 at 12:48 PM

Harry Reid told me EJ Dionne frequents San Francisco bath houses, and has been arrested in several raids.

jan3 on August 9, 2012 at 12:49 PM

If true…my god…the nation will explode.

MadisonConservative on August 9, 2012 at 12:23 PM

I haven’t had a chance to read the article linked to above so I don’t know if this has any connection. It was reported on the Daily Caller yesterday.

Report: Drug cartel used Fast and Furious weapon in failed assassination plot

Flora Duh on August 9, 2012 at 12:49 PM

I see E.J. has stopped taking his Midol again.

Thomas More on August 9, 2012 at 12:50 PM

To add to the sheer weight of my argument, I posit that E. J. is short – and I do mean short – for “Emasculated Johnson.”

What do you think?

beatcanvas on August 9, 2012 at 12:33 PM

Well, I liked it. But then, my jokes aren’t that funny either….Ü

SailorMark on August 9, 2012 at 12:50 PM

E.J. would have defended hitler if there had been a D next to his name.

Hard Right on August 9, 2012 at 12:57 PM

Besides being a NYTimes columnist, Dionne is a regular on the Progressive Broadcasting System’s Newshour and National Progressive Radio. In the years I’ve listened to him not a single analysis or prediction have proved correct but there he is, year after year huffing the fumes of Hope n Change and every other noxious liberal idea. He’s generally restrained when on those programs. It’s when he gets on the liberal cable shows that he lets his reptilian nature show.

RobertE on August 9, 2012 at 12:58 PM

I haven’t had a chance to read the article linked to above so I don’t know if this has any connection. It was reported on the Daily Caller yesterday.

Flora Duh on August 9, 2012 at 12:49 PM

It does more to debunk the previous article.

cozmo on August 9, 2012 at 1:00 PM

Nasty-minded old fairy.

SurferDoc on August 9, 2012 at 1:03 PM

All on the left are degenerates now, until Obama reestablishes even a semblance of decency in the country.

Until then, you are ALL degenerates, with him your Degeneracy Pimp.

Schadenfreude on August 9, 2012 at 12:42 PM

Of course…Decency Cop Schadenfreude is patrolling from the sidelines….the only non-degenerate known…to Schadenfreude.
A master of selective outrage…and perpetually just dang outraged.

verbaluce on August 9, 2012 at 1:06 PM

verbaluce on August 9, 2012 at 1:06 PM

Is calling those who stomp you unhappy the new tactic for you nutballs?

I see that it is new and a few of y’all are trying it.

cozmo on August 9, 2012 at 1:10 PM

I apologize if Ed doesn’t like this, but I don’t see any other threads to post this in:

Madcon if you’re still here I’d like to respond to what you said about Paul RYan in the QOTD last night. If others don’t want this threat compeltely hijacked maybe we can take this off-thread into the QOTD?

Anyways you made some good points last night about alot of Ryan’s questionable votes. Some of them were made by alot of “conservatives” like Santorum who voted for Medicare Part D (and Newt supported it too)…at the time alot in the GOP didn’t want to go against Bush. We can argue the merits of that, but I think the more concerning bad votes Ryan made were going after the AIG bonuses, raising the debt ceiling, and voting to forego the Senate confirmation of many presidental appointments.

THose are all very concerning and bother me as well. However I saw that your VP pick is Pawlenty of all people! The guy is a pretty big RINO, especially with his past cap and tax support. Plus you kind of have to be a RINO to be governor of a liberal state don’t ya? The guy is boring as can be, he’s the ultimate safe pick that really doesn’t help at all.

I still like Ryan as VP. The reason is I think we need serious discussion about reforming entitlements. Some people are afraid Ryan would scare people away but people need to be made away that there will be no more Medicare if we don’t make reforms now. That the average senior actually takes out three times more than they have put into it. We need to have the discussion do we want to be a nation of makers or takers?

Jindal would be a good pick as well. I’m not too high on Rubio due to his hispandering but politically speaking he’d be a smart pick to help take Florida and possibly Colorado and other states due to Hispanic support.

LevinFan on August 9, 2012 at 1:12 PM

The fact is…
Romney and his campaign have no credibility on this.
And certainly the wide-eyes defenders here have none.
You’re ok with…and in fact cheer the standards of the ‘you didn’t build it’ mantra.
Stop the whining.
And find a cooler kitchen.

verbaluce on August 9, 2012 at 1:13 PM

verbaluce on August 9, 2012 at 1:13 PM

Sure sweetie, you stick with that.

cozmo on August 9, 2012 at 1:15 PM

On the issue of nasty d ads, it seems Allen West now has one done against him?

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/too-far-new-attack-ad-targeting-allen-west-depicts-him-beating-women/
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letget on August 9, 2012 at 1:16 PM

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