Quotes of the day

posted at 10:43 pm on August 9, 2012 by Allahpundit

[W]hen will they know? And when will the rest of us know? There’s a school of thought in the extended Romney camp that the identity of the pick will dictate the timing of the announcement. A choice that is more exciting to the Republican base, and to the GOP convention delegates, can be announced late, even at the convention itself, because it will instantly excite Republican loyalists. No need for an extended sales campaign. But a pick that is less exciting to the base might be announced earlier, to give Romney time to build support for his choice.

“If he picks Rubio, he could do that the day before the convention, and it would electrify the convention and be exciting,” says one source who is familiar with the campaign but not part of the vice presidential process. “[The delegates] want Rubio, or maybe Christie, or perhaps Paul Ryan. But if he chooses Portman or Pawlenty, he should do it enough in advance so that he doesn’t immediately go in and disappoint the convention. It gives him time to sell his choice.”

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“[Ryan] is the kind of smart, young guy that Mitt likes and Mitt would have probably hired at Bain,” says Mike Murphy, a former Romney adviser. “He shares the intellectual talent and positive outlook of the guys who Mitt mentored for decades.”…

According to Romney insiders, Romney deeply appreciated Ryan’s willingness to privately share his critique of the campaign during the heated Republican primary, where Romney often struggled to make his case. As he watched from afar, long before he endorsed, Ryan drafted a series of detailed strategy and policy advisories, and discussed them with Romney over the phone. For Romney, those corporate-style memos made a lasting impression — and catapulted Ryan into Romney’s circle, where he has remained since.

“Both men are intelligent and very empirically minded, driven by facts,” says Peter Wehner, a friend of Ryan’s and a former Bush and Reagan administration official. “When he looks at Ryan, Romney probably sees somebody like himself, a person he’d want at his side in the business world or the political world. They approach complicated problems the same way.”

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The case against Ryan, 42, is that he is a lightning rod for criticism of the unpopular cuts in government health programs for the elderly and poor he proposed as chairman of the powerful House of Representatives Budget Committee

That is not a weakness, the conservatives argued, but a strength. They want Ryan’s budget to be the issue and they want Ryan there to defend it.

Such a debate, they believe, could elevate the campaign beyond questions that are consuming it now, about Romney’s unwillingness to disclose more than two years of tax returns for example, or his leadership of the investment firm, Bain Capital…

“It turns the election into an all-in bet,” the aide said, adding, “The concern is that when you go all in, you can lose and be out of the game.”

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The question, it seems to us, is not whether Republicans and their presidential nominee own the Ryan budget, but how they choose to talk about it. Republicans shouldn’t worry about having entitlement reform as part of the campaign debate; they should want it there. The 2012 campaign should be about leadership, and about the failure of Barack Obama to provide it on the big issues, including – especially – on entitlement reform, debt, and deficits. It’s no longer the case that talking about entitlements is fatal. Marco Rubio ran on entitlement reform and won decisively … in senior-rich Florida. The more Rubio talked about entitlement reform, in fact, the better he did, according the campaign’s internal tracking polls. Congressional Republicans voted overwhelmingly in favor of the Ryan budget twice and yet they are effectively tied with congressional Democrats on the generic ballot question…

So Romney, and Republicans, will be running on the Romney-Ryan plan no matter what. Having Paul Ryan on the ticket may well make it easier to defend the plan convincingly. Ryan’s pretty good at that.

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[T]he loud, public calls for Mr. Ryan to emerge as the winner demonstrate again the wariness with which conservatives have always treated Mr. Romney. They suggest that there remains a desire among some conservatives for Mr. Romney to demonstrate that he is, in fact, one of them

[T]he conservatives are also looking past the November election to the kind of White House they want should Mr. Romney win. For some conservatives — especially those who identify themselves with the Tea Party movement — winning is not enough.

For some of those conservatives, a Romney administration stocked with moderate Republicans is almost as bad as a second term for Mr. Obama.

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The clamor you are hearing for Paul Ryan for VP is not about helping the Romney candidacy. It’s about controlling the Romney campaign — and ultimately the Romney presidency. It’s about forcing a platform on Romney, and then dictating the agenda for that presidency’s first year. The platform happens to be suicidal, and the agenda impossible, but that does not matter to the Ryan advocates. They take the old Tammany Hall point of view: “Better to lose an agenda than lose control of the party.”

In that sense, the Ryan proposal is a test of Romney’s leadership. If he accedes, it’s a big surrender of control — and a surrender to many of those who most opposed (and who inwardly continue to dislike) his nomination.

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But the smaller, more Machiavellian point is that Ryan is Romney’s best chance to diffuse the blame if he loses this election. If Romney chooses the proverbial “incredibly boring white guy” and then goes down in November, conservatives will place the blame squarely on Romney’s shoulders: He was a flip-flopping, Massachusetts Moderate with a cautious campaign and a car garage. The narrative, in fact, is already set. In July, the Wall Street Journal editorial page accused Romney of “slowly squandering an historic opportunity.” They would simply have to change “squandering” to “squandered.” And Romney knows it.

But if Romney chooses Ryan — if he makes this the “big election over big issues” that the Wall Street Journal editorial page wants — then his loss will be their loss as well. He’ll still be blamed, of course. But the fact will remain that he took conservative counsel, adopted conservative ideas, named a conservative hero as his vice president, ran on the Ryan budget, and lost to a liberal. The right will not be able to pretend they weren’t on the ticket. They will have chosen the ticket. The right will not be able to say Romney ran a cautious campaign. They will have cranked his campaign’s strategy up to 11.

What’s less clear is what conservatives get out of the deal, save the opportunity to see Ryan debate Joe Biden. If Ryan is named to the ticket and the ticket loses, the loss will discredit the Ryan budget, and empower those in the Republican Party who want to pivot back to the center. Whereas conservatives have some chance of winning the intraparty argument if Romney/Portman loses — “we shouldn’t have nominated the insincere moderate,” they’ll say — they have little chance of arguing that the Republican Party simply didn’t run hard enough on the Ryan budget if Romney/Ryan loses.

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For the life of me I do not know who ALyT is?

I only said Craig James to mess with you cuz you said you thought I was this ALyT person, I swear it…

I am not this person…

Scrumpy on August 10, 2012 at 12:21 AM

Hmmmmm…how do we find out…?

Bunny suit!

Do you have a bunny suit?

cozmo on August 10, 2012 at 12:24 AM

why can’t Michael Vick go more than four plays without getting injured?

Slade73 on August 10, 2012 at 12:21 AM

Did Barack smell puppy on him and bite?

El_Terrible on August 10, 2012 at 12:24 AM

don’t hate the playa NippleHair, hate the game

Slade73 on August 10, 2012 at 12:24 AM

why can’t Michael Vick go more than four plays without getting injured?

Slade73 on August 10, 2012 at 12:21 AM

.
A lot of revenge-seeking “dog lovers” play on NFL defenses.

listens2glenn on August 10, 2012 at 12:24 AM

Sorry, MontanaMmmm. Maybe I’m a little touchy tonight.

jaime on August 10, 2012 at 12:17 AM

Me too, gophergirl has it pegged, I’ll just go to bed,
take a break, scared for my kids future.

Thanks for the back up gg, I shouldn’t have added to the negativity:(

MontanaMmmm on August 10, 2012 at 12:22 AM

MM, I’m afraid for your kid’s future too. I assure you, most people will do their best to make sure the WH has someone in it next January that will protect their futures as we would.
Sleep well.

AllahsNippleHair on August 10, 2012 at 12:24 AM

Slade73 on August 10, 2012 at 12:21 AM

A lot of defensive lineman are dog lovers?

thatsafactjack on August 10, 2012 at 12:24 AM

BTW, if someone hadn’t heard, Obama eats dogs.

El_Terrible on August 10, 2012 at 12:25 AM

Hotair is a Cesspool tonight.

MontanaMmmm on August 10, 2012 at 12:03 AM

Schadenfreude on August 10, 2012 at 12:14 AM

Schadenfreude:I was born in 1959,and that was a big hit,
time does fly by,haha!:)

canopfor on August 10, 2012 at 12:25 AM

I’ll just go to bed,
take a break

MontanaMmmm on August 10, 2012 at 12:22 AM

Stay if you like. I’m just getting ready to take a short break myself.

jaime on August 10, 2012 at 12:25 AM

MontanaMmmm.

Ignore it.

It’s not worth anything.

wolly4321 on August 10, 2012 at 12:25 AM

Nice..Good evening!..:)

Dire Straits on August 9, 2012 at 11:27 PM

Good evening to you friend. : ) you know what tomorrow is, right? One last 16 hour day and…………..

Bmore on August 10, 2012 at 12:25 AM

no, he hit his thumb on the center’s helmet. Did it a couple times last year too.

Slade73 on August 10, 2012 at 12:25 AM

don’t hate the playa NippleHair, hate the game

Slade73 on August 10, 2012 at 12:24 AM

I hate both and would not like to see nothing more than his tombstone.

AllahsNippleHair on August 10, 2012 at 12:26 AM

Scrumpy on August 10, 2012 at 12:21 AM

.
Hmmmmm…how do we find out…?

Bunny suit!

Do you have a bunny suit?

cozmo on August 10, 2012 at 12:24 AM

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I don’t get the lower-case “y”.

listens2glenn on August 10, 2012 at 12:26 AM

are helmets Dog lovers?

It’s gotta be karma

Slade73 on August 10, 2012 at 12:27 AM

this hasn’t been a real fun place the last couple of days.

gophergirl on August 10, 2012 at 12:16 AM

That’s what happens when too many trolls are allowed free reign for too danged long.

What makes liberal sites so peaceful for liberals is that they dump opposing ideas after a few posts. But conservative sites are battle grounds, because too many liberals are let loose to spew for months on end without any consequences.

Which is the liberal aim: to make a place like this so annoying that Conservatives throw up their hands in disgust and leave it.

Liam on August 10, 2012 at 12:27 AM

wolly: repubs have been unable to win simple debates such as tax cuts generating more revenue than tax hikes. even jfk understood this. or privatizing ss with an opt in or opt out. the list of unloseable debates that the right has lost is long. what i’m saying is win the election because nothing else matters. we don’t need style points for being brave. the left is just begging romney to choose ryan so they can demagogue his plan every day and take the publics eye off the disasterous economy. btw, more than a few economists are now predicting negative gdp for 3rd qtr. so why the hell do we need to debate medicare reform?

phillysfinest on August 10, 2012 at 12:27 AM

Mitt should wait until the Dem convention is over to announce his pick – Sep 6th.

faraway on August 9, 2012 at 11:20 PM

Is that possible? Can he do that? That would drive the media and the Democrats (I know, it’s redundant) nuts. Romney going BEFORE Obama, and then AFTER as well, to keep Obama from shuffling the deck by kicking Biden off of the ticket. If it could be pulled off, it would be golden. You know the Democrats would do it if they could get away with it…

Jurisprudence on August 10, 2012 at 12:27 AM

listens2glenn on August 10, 2012 at 12:26 AM

yankee…don’t tell anybody, its a secret.

cozmo on August 10, 2012 at 12:28 AM

I hate both and would not like to see nothing more than his tombstone.

AllahsNippleHair on August 10, 2012 at 12:26 AM

go watch Soccer then fruitcake. We watch football in America.

Slade73 on August 10, 2012 at 12:28 AM

Schadenfreude on August 9, 2012 at 11:51 PM

Romney/Schadenfreude

Scrumpy on August 9, 2012 at 11:53 PM

One correction to this Scrumpy.

Schadenfreude/Romney 2012 !

Bmore on August 10, 2012 at 12:28 AM

Don’t go getting yourselves set up to let yourselves down. It could be somebody nobody has mentioned to day. Mitt isn’t a politician. I would be quite surprised if his VP is a politician.

crosspatch on August 10, 2012 at 12:29 AM

Want to know why Romney is losing?

Why does he refuse to run on his record. The only positive accomplishment the campaign can put in an ad is that lame “I saved the 2002 Olympics” piece? Its laughable, tell me when you watch that you don’t roll your eyes and chuckle, whatever your political affiliation. He tells us that his work at Bain demonstrates his economic acumen and the *only* thin you see his campaign doing is arguing about the time he wasn’t at Bain, trying to claim he had no responsibility there. No doubt when the questions start to come about where he got the startup capital (and some of the shady characters involved) there will be even more distancing. And then there’s his record as governor of MA, there’s a lot of stuff there that may appeal to independents. But because his MA record infuriates the conservative base he’s loath to talk about those issues. Did anyone ever think that Andreas Saul floated that “he would’ve been covered under Romneycare” as a trial balloon to see whether the base would accept him touting that as a legislative accomplishment? He got his answer. So indies are turned off by his “vulture capitalism” (thanks Newt!) at Bain and conservatives are turned off by his legislative record in Massachusets and once the Obama campaign starts airing the Mitt v. Mitt ads the question will be “which record” when it comes to Mitt Romney. There it is.

libfreeordie on August 10, 2012 at 12:29 AM

canopfor on August 10, 2012 at 12:14 AM

No biggie, I have a 20mm termite gun.

cozmo on August 10, 2012 at 12:19 AM

cozmo:Lmao,okay that was a great-come-back:)

canopfor on August 10, 2012 at 12:29 AM

I wish someone would take off his head. Or electrocute him. Or drown him.

AllahsNippleHair on August 10, 2012 at 12:22 AM

Do to him what he did to his dogs!

The bastage…

Scrumpy on August 10, 2012 at 12:30 AM

All this focus on Ryan isn’t healthy. It is Mitt’s choice. Just be prepared for it not to be Ryan or anyone else mentioned.

crosspatch on August 10, 2012 at 12:30 AM

Want to know why Romney is losing?

libfreeordie on August 10, 2012 at 12:29 AM

No, you could have yourself all that writing.

Your work is done, run along now.

cozmo on August 10, 2012 at 12:30 AM

this hasn’t been a real fun place the last couple of days.

gophergirl on August 10, 2012 at 12:16 AM

That’s what happens when too many trolls are allowed free reign for too danged long.

What makes liberal sites so peaceful for liberals is that they dump opposing ideas after a few posts. But conservative sites are battle grounds, because too many liberals are let loose to spew for months on end without any consequences.

Which is the liberal aim: to make a place like this so annoying that Conservatives throw up their hands in disgust and leave it.

Liam on August 10, 2012 at 12:27 AM

The thing is, the liberals walk in lockstep. Conservatives do not. They are not a collective, they are individuals and as individuals, we have our own opinions.
Yes, the tolls have been prolific, but so have been the arguments between patriots.

AllahsNippleHair on August 10, 2012 at 12:31 AM

I see Ryan as a silver bullet. 

He’ll galvanize the base, especially us die hard conservatives who talk a big game on spending. Plus, those of us still embittered from an “unfair” and brutal primary fight–When your guy/girl loses ( I was a Perry man) its always unfair and brutal. Ryan takes that edge off. Thing is, I see Perry, Bachman, Gingrich, and Santourm come out strong with a Ryan pick. 

Also, it strengthens those R-Tea Party folk. Mitt needs that, especially in swing states. And once Ryan hits the circuit, I think I/D – Tea Party folks see him they’ll understand why we like him so much. 

The other reason I like Ryan is because it takes a long view of Republican dominance. I’ll go with eight years of Mitt and another eight of Ryan. That’s quite a bit of time to turn our fiscal strength as a country around. That’s the long view of things. Note the rise of the Tea Party as it becomes a major player. 

If Mitt is the man I think (hope) I’m voting for, he’s thinking of his country first and his party second. Ryan is good for our future. Dan Quayle he is not. 

My only problem with Ryan, is his medicine is tough to swallow. That medicine can turn on you, no matter how good it is for you. Remember when Bush touched Social Security. We have a just don’t touch mine mentality. 

Also, I have faith Romney will win regardless of his choice for VP. I think America has had enough of Obama, so Romney pick is more about America than winning this election. 

Conger on August 10, 2012 at 12:31 AM

You better not

Schadenfreude on August 10, 2012 at 12:02 AM

; ) I won’t we need my vote. Besides dead men don’t help with barricades.

Bmore on August 10, 2012 at 12:31 AM

listens2glenn on August 10, 2012 at 12:26 AM

.
yankee…don’t tell anybody, its a secret.

cozmo on August 10, 2012 at 12:28 AM

.
Oh dang. : O

Well, I asked . . . but now I sense an incoming “glare”.

listens2glenn on August 10, 2012 at 12:31 AM

cozmo on August 10, 2012 at 12:24 AM

.
I don’t get the lower-case “y”.

listens2glenn on August 10, 2012 at 12:26 AM

cozmo spells it ALyT to mean “annoying little yankee Twerp”.

Just trying to help, and to get cozmo in trouble cause he wanted to burn down the tree I got stuck out on a limb on.

SparkPlug on August 10, 2012 at 12:31 AM

It’s not Ryan stop wasting energy

Conservative4ev on August 10, 2012 at 12:32 AM

cozmo:Lmao,okay that was a great-come-back:)

canopfor on August 10, 2012 at 12:29 AM

It may not stop this attack. But unless that crew chief rounds up the Orkin man right quick, there won’t be any more.

cozmo on August 10, 2012 at 12:32 AM

Want to know why Romney is losing?

I want to know how you figure he is losing. Mitt’s campaign hasn’t even stared. Obama’s been campaigning non-stop. Obama is swimming hard against a massive current.

Just today the United Mine Workers said they were not going to support Obama. That is going to hurt in Pennsylvania, Ohio, and West Virginia:

http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/coal-miners-union-sits-out-presidential-race-20120809

crosspatch on August 10, 2012 at 12:32 AM

Why does he refuse to run on his record.

libfreeordie on August 10, 2012 at 12:29 AM

Irony Alert

Slade73 on August 10, 2012 at 12:32 AM

I hate both and would not like to see nothing more than his tombstone.

AllahsNippleHair on August 10, 2012 at 12:26 AM

go watch Soccer then fruitcake. We watch football in America.

Slade73 on August 10, 2012 at 12:28 AM

I like football, jackass. I also like soccer.
What I don’t like is a dog killer criminal being allowed to play a child’s game and doofuses like you still worshipping him.

AllahsNippleHair on August 10, 2012 at 12:32 AM

cozmo on August 10, 2012 at 12:24 AM

No! No bunny suit!

Mind you if I was like 20 somthing I might lmao

Scrumpy on August 10, 2012 at 12:33 AM

Alrighty,I’m out,Everyone have a Great Nite——————-:),

and,there appears to be a StowAway……

…..LibFreeorDie has been seen,on the main deck,
approach with caution!!

(snark)

canopfor on August 10, 2012 at 12:33 AM

The name Scrumpy sounds like a fuzzy widdle bunny.

SparkPlug on August 10, 2012 at 12:33 AM

Want to know why Romney is losing?

libfreeordie on August 10, 2012 at 12:29 AM

.
I don’t concede the premise, so there’s really nothing to talk about.

listens2glenn on August 10, 2012 at 12:34 AM

So much Michael Vick hate :(

it makes me sad

Slade73 on August 10, 2012 at 12:34 AM

why can’t Michael Vick go more than four plays without getting injured?

Slade73 on August 10, 2012 at 12:21 AM

He’s not durable. Proved it when he was in the ATL.

Bmore on August 10, 2012 at 12:34 AM

I wish someone would take off his head. Or electrocute him. Or drown him.

AllahsNippleHair on August 10, 2012 at 12:22 AM

Do to him what he did to his dogs!

The bastage…

Scrumpy on August 10, 2012 at 12:30 AM

Absolutely.

AllahsNippleHair on August 10, 2012 at 12:34 AM

Just trying to help, and to get cozmo in trouble cause he wanted to burn down the tree I got stuck out on a limb on.

SparkPlug on August 10, 2012 at 12:31 AM

You left out what that fire was for…Churrascaria

cozmo on August 10, 2012 at 12:35 AM

I see Ryan as a silver bullet.

I see Ryan as a very stupid strategic choice for VP. So you pull him out of Congress to campaign for about 70 days and then he does NOTHING for four years? And all he has for a record is a few years on the House? Never been an executive. Being VP doesn’t give you any experience. That is a ceremonial post that mostly attends funerals around the world representing the US government. In the meantime he has been pulled out of the House where he was actually getting things done as a leader.

I say Ryan is better for Speaker of the House than VP.

crosspatch on August 10, 2012 at 12:35 AM

Irony Alert

Slade73 on August 10, 2012 at 12:32 AM

No worries. The irony always escapes that one.

Bmore on August 10, 2012 at 12:35 AM

So much Michael Vick hate :(

it makes me sad

Slade73 on August 10, 2012 at 12:34 AM

Animal abuse.
Child abuse.
That makes me sad.
You’re pathetic.

AllahsNippleHair on August 10, 2012 at 12:35 AM

Just today the United Mine Workers said they were not going to support Obama. That is going to hurt in Pennsylvania, Ohio, and West Virginia:

http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/coal-miners-union-sits-out-presidential-race-20120809

crosspatch on August 10, 2012 at 12:32 AM

Ah! Best thing I’ve heard today. So, Mitt needs to beat that drum loudly and pick the scab off that energy wound that’s just begging to be exploited.

a capella on August 10, 2012 at 12:36 AM

Bmore on August 10, 2012 at 12:28 AM
How about

Bmore/Shadenfreude!!!!

Scrumpy on August 10, 2012 at 12:36 AM

canopfor on August 10, 2012 at 12:29 AM

It may not stop this attack. But unless that crew chief rounds up the Orkin man right quick, there won’t be any more.

cozmo on August 10, 2012 at 12:32 AM

cozmo:

Lol,ya,I can see it barely landing,in a pile of aluminum,
steel,glass,and everything else but the wood,

with the ground mechanics,stating,”Looks like you guys
ran into a problem”!haha:)

Nite Cozmo:)

canopfor on August 10, 2012 at 12:36 AM

The name Scrumpy sounds like a fuzzy widdle bunny.

SparkPlug on August 10, 2012 at 12:33 AM

I’m thinking that’s not what she was going for there.

Bmore on August 10, 2012 at 12:37 AM

I like football, jackass. I also like soccer.
What I don’t like is a dog killer criminal being allowed to play a child’s game and doofuses like you still worshipping him.

AllahsNippleHair on August 10, 2012 at 12:32 AM

did I hurt your feelings NippleHair?

You said you hated the game…

I worship lots of things, p*ssy being foremost, but Vick doesn’t make the list.

Slade73 on August 10, 2012 at 12:37 AM

SparkPlug on August 10, 2012 at 12:33 AM

Actually, I thought ‘scrumpy’ was a name for a liquor or cordial in English country homes.

thatsafactjack on August 10, 2012 at 12:38 AM

You’re pathetic.

AllahsNippleHair on August 10, 2012 at 12:35 AM

ruh, roh! Allah’sNippleHair is twisted

Slade73 on August 10, 2012 at 12:38 AM

I like football, jackass. I also like soccer.
What I don’t like is a dog killer criminal being allowed to play a child’s game and doofuses like you still worshipping him.

AllahsNippleHair on August 10, 2012 at 12:32 AM

did I hurt your feelings NippleHair?

You said you hated the game…

I worship lots of things, p*ssy being foremost, but Vick doesn’t make the list.

Slade73 on August 10, 2012 at 12:37 AM

Not hardly.
You sound like a real winner.

AllahsNippleHair on August 10, 2012 at 12:38 AM

Looks like Stephanie Cutter has decided not to do ABC Sunday…hmmmm.

d1carter on August 10, 2012 at 12:17 AM

If Obama were a decent man, alas, he’d fire her. Don’t buy lottery tickets on it, though.

Schadenfreude on August 10, 2012 at 12:38 AM

Bmore/Shadenfreude!!!!

Scrumpy on August 10, 2012 at 12:36 AM

How can he bmore shadenfreude?

Only Shadenfreude is more shadenfreude than Bmore.

Say the preceding three times fast.

cozmo on August 10, 2012 at 12:38 AM

COZMO Dahling!! I now KNOW who you are speaking of!

I most assuredly am not she…the C/J/C/J confused person!

Not a chance…

Scrumpy on August 10, 2012 at 12:39 AM

Bmore on August 10, 2012 at 12:28 AM
How about

Bmore/Shadenfreude!!!!

Scrumpy on August 10, 2012 at 12:36 AM

Lol! Schadenfreude/Bmore 2012! Now that is a ticket to be reckoned with. Poor, poor 0 wouldn’t know what hit him. ; )

Bmore on August 10, 2012 at 12:39 AM

You’re pathetic.

AllahsNippleHair on August 10, 2012 at 12:35 AM

ruh, roh! Allah’sNippleHair is twisted

Slade73 on August 10, 2012 at 12:38 AM

The playa, vick.
The game, killing dogs.
Gfy.

AllahsNippleHair on August 10, 2012 at 12:39 AM

why can’t Michael Vick go more than four plays without getting injured?

Slade73 on August 10, 2012 at 12:21 AM

His reputation precedes him.

MelonCollie on August 10, 2012 at 12:39 AM

So much Michael Vick hate :(

it makes me sad

Slade73 on August 10, 2012 at 12:34 AM

.
I have a family member who is a “humanitarian/animal rights activist”.

Seems like every fourth or fifth facebook post is something duragatory directed at Michael Vick.

listens2glenn on August 10, 2012 at 12:40 AM

SparkPlug on August 10, 2012 at 12:33 AM

Actually, I thought ‘scrumpy’ was a name for a liquor or cordial in English country homes.

thatsafactjack on August 10, 2012 at 12:38 AM

Well then, lets all have a taste of scrumpy.

*clink*

SparkPlug on August 10, 2012 at 12:41 AM

The thing is, the liberals walk in lockstep. Conservatives do not. They are not a collective, they are individuals and as individuals, we have our own opinions.
Yes, the tolls have been prolific, but so have been the arguments between patriots.

AllahsNippleHair on August 10, 2012 at 12:31 AM

But we discuss varying opinions on matters of detail. There is nothing wrong with that. But, like you said in your own way, liberals are just parrots trained in words and tactics.

Liberals create a safe haven for themselves, purging any thought and opinion and that isn’t liberal. But what safe haven have we Conservatives? Not a one, because liberals are allowed to run rampant in all their ways. None of them are under scrutiny by the mods, far as I have seen on so many sites.

We invariably are.

In the concept of ‘fairness’, liberals are often allowed to be dishonest. They pop in and seek to ruin would could be a civilized discussion, with odd things like, “Today’s poll has Romney down 9000 points” when the subject might well be price of widgets in East Fongweek.

Conservatives debate in our spaces. Liberals seek to destroy those places.

Liam on August 10, 2012 at 12:41 AM

Tomorrow doesn’t matter tonight.

Bmore on August 9, 2012 at 11:30 PM

Who cares what the QOTD is, we’re blanked anyway. Mitt is made fun of, called names and plays like he is Gomer Pyle.

Since you linked to Starship, I like this one also.

arnold ziffel on August 10, 2012 at 12:41 AM

Philly- because it needs to be debated. It doesn’t matter if we lost before, it’s dire now. I can’t think of someone better than Ryan to do it.

Here’s my question to you.. do you see the cliff? It makes no difference if we elect people that ignore it just to get elected. That solves nothing.

I don’t give a crap if we win with someone that won’t fix it.

What’s the point?

wolly4321 on August 10, 2012 at 12:41 AM

SparkPlug on August 10, 2012 at 12:41 AM

Now you’re talking!

*Clink* :)

thatsafactjack on August 10, 2012 at 12:41 AM

One correction to this Scrumpy.

Schadenfreude/Romney 2012 !

Bmore on August 10, 2012 at 12:28 AM

You, my good friend, are out of your mind. This combo would never exist, if I’d pick a VP.

Now, this

Schadenfreude/Bmore 2012! Now that is a ticket to be reckoned with. Poor, poor 0 wouldn’t know what hit him. ; )

Bmore on August 10, 2012 at 12:39 AM

…would be very true. The world would change drammatically, for the better and for more sanity and fun.

Schadenfreude on August 10, 2012 at 12:42 AM

…the C/J/C/J confused person!

Scrumpy on August 10, 2012 at 12:39 AM

?

Now I’m confused…

Oh well, its late and I have PO’ed my quota of people for the day.

cozmo on August 10, 2012 at 12:42 AM

The playa, vick.
The game, killing dogs.
Gfy.

AllahsNippleHair on August 10, 2012 at 12:39 AM

don’t get yer feathers ruffled.

I can’t help Vick’s our QB, it doesn’t mean I like killing dogs.

Slade73 on August 10, 2012 at 12:42 AM

Looks like Stephanie Cutter has decided not to do ABC Sunday…hmmmm.

d1carter on August 10, 2012 at 12:17 AM

Geez I wonder why.

gophergirl on August 10, 2012 at 12:19 AM

Is that a big bus I hear? And the stink of diesel? Vroom-vroom.

slickwillie2001 on August 10, 2012 at 12:42 AM

canopfor on August 10, 2012 at 12:25 AM

You’re such a good friend the USA, and us here, have.

Schadenfreude on August 10, 2012 at 12:43 AM

SparkPlug on August 10, 2012 at 12:31 AM

Hello!

Scrumpy is not a ‘bunny’ name…

It originates from the West Country of the UK from whence I hail!

It refers to a somtimes sparkling but more like a cloudy beverage made from apples and our version is acoholic!!

Would ALT know this?

Scrumpy on August 10, 2012 at 12:44 AM

Since you linked to Starship, I like this one also.

arnold ziffel on August 10, 2012 at 12:41 AM

How we doing arnold? You keeping these 5 th tier trolls of HA straight? They ain’t worth squat but it’s all we got. ; )

Bmore on August 10, 2012 at 12:45 AM

Scrumpy on August 10, 2012 at 12:39 AM

Ever since Cozmo got bit by Twerp he thinks everyone is Twerp and is trying to snap off hunks of his flesh with their fangs.

But you can’t hardly blame him. A Twerp bite would kill a lesser man.

SparkPlug on August 10, 2012 at 12:45 AM

I like football, jackass. I also like soccer.
What I don’t like is a dog killer criminal being allowed to play a child’s game and doofuses like you still worshipping him.

AllahsNippleHair on August 10, 2012 at 12:32 AM

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No, what you (and my afore mentioned family member) don’t like, is “a dog killer criminal” being allowed to walk the face of the earth.

listens2glenn on August 10, 2012 at 12:45 AM

The playa, vick.
The game, killing dogs.
Gfy.

AllahsNippleHair on August 10, 2012 at 12:39 AM

don’t get yer feathers ruffled.

I can’t help Vick’s our QB, it doesn’t mean I like killing dogs.

Slade73 on August 10, 2012 at 12:42 AM

Whatever, fruitcake.

AllahsNippleHair on August 10, 2012 at 12:45 AM

I like football, jackass. I also like soccer.
What I don’t like is a dog killer criminal being allowed to play a child’s game and doofuses like you still worshipping him.

AllahsNippleHair on August 10, 2012 at 12:32 AM

.
No, what you (and my afore mentioned family member) don’t like, is “a dog killer criminal” being allowed to walk the face of the earth.

listens2glenn on August 10, 2012 at 12:45 AM

That. And, wax. I hate wax.

AllahsNippleHair on August 10, 2012 at 12:46 AM

Scrumpy on August 10, 2012 at 12:44 AM

OHHH! You mean HARD CIDER! Apple Jack! I knew it was SOMETHING tasty that had alcohol in it! :)

thatsafactjack on August 10, 2012 at 12:46 AM

Want to know why Romney Obama is losing?

Why does he refuse to run on his record? The only positive accomplishment the campaign can put in an ad is that lame “You misinterpret what I said with “you didn’t build that””… Bla, bla, bla, bla…..There it is.

libfreeordie on August 10, 2012 at 12:29 AM

God, you still are a professor. It’s a national travesty.

Schadenfreude on August 10, 2012 at 12:47 AM

One last 16 hour day and…………..

Bmore on August 10, 2012 at 12:25 AM

Beer???!!???..:)

Dire Straits on August 10, 2012 at 12:47 AM

Whatever, fruitcake.

AllahsNippleHair on August 10, 2012 at 12:45 AM

Bahahahahahahahahahahaha!

I knew that was grating on you. Okays NippsHair, you’re not a fruitcake.

I don’t see the problem, it’s a delightful holiday treat.

Slade73 on August 10, 2012 at 12:47 AM

Scrumpy on August 10, 2012 at 12:44 AM

Dang, Jackie was right. Well I’m happy to know you and its cool that you whence from a place that you hail! (:

Me too.

SparkPlug on August 10, 2012 at 12:48 AM

cozmo on August 10, 2012 at 12:42 AM

Not po’ed sweety, not a bit…

Not me anyway! I just hope that speaking about ALT doesn’t upset her!

C/J/C/J is in reference to her changing her religious views of which I have read…

Scrumpy on August 10, 2012 at 12:48 AM

Obama is willing to have the campaign be about HIS ideas……BAILING OUT all industries like they did GM and Chrysler……so why not?

Moot point though. Romney is acting like Dole/McCain so I guess we should say he wants to lose.

Bummer, I had high hopes a TEANAMI 2 would sweep a Conservative wave into DC. Bit that won’t happen if the top of the ticket loses 55/45. Looks like we’re going to get a TEATERNAMI instead.

JEB2016!
start early, beat the rush.

PappyD61 on August 10, 2012 at 12:49 AM

…would be very true. The world would change drammatically, for the better and for more sanity and fun.

Schadenfreude on August 10, 2012 at 12:42 AM

Good times would definitely ensue. Lol! ; ) The debates alone would be huge fun! We would have so many enemy’s. Good times!

Bmore on August 10, 2012 at 12:49 AM

listens2glenn on August 10, 2012 at 12:45 AM

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That. And, wax. I hate wax.

AllahsNippleHair on August 10, 2012 at 12:46 AM

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Would that be car wax, ear wax, mustache wax, bikini wax, or some other type of unidentified wax?

listens2glenn on August 10, 2012 at 12:49 AM

Whatever, fruitcake.

AllahsNippleHair on August 10, 2012 at 12:45 AM

Bahahahahahahahahahahaha!

I knew that was grating on you. Okays NippsHair, you’re not a fruitcake.

I don’t see the problem, it’s a delightful holiday treat.

Slade73 on August 10, 2012 at 12:47 AM

Fine. Makes a great doorstop.

AllahsNippleHair on August 10, 2012 at 12:49 AM

listens2glenn on August 10, 2012 at 12:45 AM
.
That. And, wax. I hate wax.

AllahsNippleHair on August 10, 2012 at 12:46 AM

.
Would that be car wax, ear wax, mustache wax, bikini wax, or some other type of unidentified wax?

listens2glenn on August 10, 2012 at 12:49 AM

Nipple wax, of course.

AllahsNippleHair on August 10, 2012 at 12:50 AM

One last 16 hour day and…………..

Bmore on August 10, 2012 at 12:25 AM

Beer???!!???..:)

Dire Straits on August 10, 2012 at 12:47 AM

Lol! That too! TGIF!

Bmore on August 10, 2012 at 12:50 AM

Would that be car wax, ear wax, mustache wax, bikini wax, or some other type of unidentified wax?

listens2glenn on August 10, 2012 at 12:49 AM

Sandra Fluke’s back and mustache wax

Slade73 on August 10, 2012 at 12:50 AM

Sex wax is my favorite wax.

Bmore on August 10, 2012 at 12:52 AM

MontanaMmmm on August 10, 2012 at 12:22 AM

gophergirl on August 10, 2012 at 12:12 AM

Good evening..:)

PS..Remember WE can steer..We have to!..:)

PSS..Been listening to this Aussie Songbird!..Great voice!..:)

Dire Straits on August 10, 2012 at 12:52 AM

Why does he refuse to run on his record.

libfreeordie on August 10, 2012 at 12:29 AM

You’re just funnin me right? How come you never answered earlier about what your favorite dress to wear is? Little black number or I’m thinking in your case aunt Esther?

arnold ziffel on August 10, 2012 at 12:53 AM

SparkPlug on August 10, 2012 at 12:45 AM

thatsafactjack on August 10, 2012 at 12:46 AM

Lol!! the pr of you!

Our Cider is rough and potent, not like the wimpy stuff made here.

Good old fashioned farm made Cider (Scrumpy) is the best!!

So, if I may *CLINK*!!

Scrumpy on August 10, 2012 at 12:53 AM

It’s because of all the fighting that has been going on. I happen to agree with her – this hasn’t been a real fun place the last couple of days.

gophergirl on August 10, 2012 at 12:16 AM

I think this upcoming election has everybody on edge; I know that I am. Each presidential election is important, but this one has the flavor of Reagan/Carter where the future survival of the country really does hang in the balance. We all have our opinions of what we think should happen, what the candidates should do, etc. while others, equally as patriotic have differing views but all pointed to the same goal. Given the importance, it’s not strange that people on the same side are sniping at each other over tactics. In some cases, it’s more than just a bunch of blog followers arguing endlessly, it’s people supporting campaigns locally who are arguing strategy to ensure a win.

AZfederalist on August 10, 2012 at 12:53 AM

Is that a big bus I hear? And the stink of diesel? Vroom-vroom.

slickwillie2001 on August 10, 2012 at 12:42 AM

rofl..Wheels on the bus go round and round!..:)

Dire Straits on August 10, 2012 at 12:54 AM

Scrumpy on August 10, 2012 at 12:53 AM

IN that case….*Clink*! :)

thatsafactjack on August 10, 2012 at 12:55 AM

Scrumpy on August 10, 2012 at 12:44 AM

You and Resist We Much are treasures from the UK.

Schadenfreude on August 10, 2012 at 12:56 AM

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