Quotes of the day

posted at 10:43 pm on August 9, 2012 by Allahpundit

[W]hen will they know? And when will the rest of us know? There’s a school of thought in the extended Romney camp that the identity of the pick will dictate the timing of the announcement. A choice that is more exciting to the Republican base, and to the GOP convention delegates, can be announced late, even at the convention itself, because it will instantly excite Republican loyalists. No need for an extended sales campaign. But a pick that is less exciting to the base might be announced earlier, to give Romney time to build support for his choice.

“If he picks Rubio, he could do that the day before the convention, and it would electrify the convention and be exciting,” says one source who is familiar with the campaign but not part of the vice presidential process. “[The delegates] want Rubio, or maybe Christie, or perhaps Paul Ryan. But if he chooses Portman or Pawlenty, he should do it enough in advance so that he doesn’t immediately go in and disappoint the convention. It gives him time to sell his choice.”

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“[Ryan] is the kind of smart, young guy that Mitt likes and Mitt would have probably hired at Bain,” says Mike Murphy, a former Romney adviser. “He shares the intellectual talent and positive outlook of the guys who Mitt mentored for decades.”…

According to Romney insiders, Romney deeply appreciated Ryan’s willingness to privately share his critique of the campaign during the heated Republican primary, where Romney often struggled to make his case. As he watched from afar, long before he endorsed, Ryan drafted a series of detailed strategy and policy advisories, and discussed them with Romney over the phone. For Romney, those corporate-style memos made a lasting impression — and catapulted Ryan into Romney’s circle, where he has remained since.

“Both men are intelligent and very empirically minded, driven by facts,” says Peter Wehner, a friend of Ryan’s and a former Bush and Reagan administration official. “When he looks at Ryan, Romney probably sees somebody like himself, a person he’d want at his side in the business world or the political world. They approach complicated problems the same way.”

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The case against Ryan, 42, is that he is a lightning rod for criticism of the unpopular cuts in government health programs for the elderly and poor he proposed as chairman of the powerful House of Representatives Budget Committee

That is not a weakness, the conservatives argued, but a strength. They want Ryan’s budget to be the issue and they want Ryan there to defend it.

Such a debate, they believe, could elevate the campaign beyond questions that are consuming it now, about Romney’s unwillingness to disclose more than two years of tax returns for example, or his leadership of the investment firm, Bain Capital…

“It turns the election into an all-in bet,” the aide said, adding, “The concern is that when you go all in, you can lose and be out of the game.”

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The question, it seems to us, is not whether Republicans and their presidential nominee own the Ryan budget, but how they choose to talk about it. Republicans shouldn’t worry about having entitlement reform as part of the campaign debate; they should want it there. The 2012 campaign should be about leadership, and about the failure of Barack Obama to provide it on the big issues, including – especially – on entitlement reform, debt, and deficits. It’s no longer the case that talking about entitlements is fatal. Marco Rubio ran on entitlement reform and won decisively … in senior-rich Florida. The more Rubio talked about entitlement reform, in fact, the better he did, according the campaign’s internal tracking polls. Congressional Republicans voted overwhelmingly in favor of the Ryan budget twice and yet they are effectively tied with congressional Democrats on the generic ballot question…

So Romney, and Republicans, will be running on the Romney-Ryan plan no matter what. Having Paul Ryan on the ticket may well make it easier to defend the plan convincingly. Ryan’s pretty good at that.

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[T]he loud, public calls for Mr. Ryan to emerge as the winner demonstrate again the wariness with which conservatives have always treated Mr. Romney. They suggest that there remains a desire among some conservatives for Mr. Romney to demonstrate that he is, in fact, one of them

[T]he conservatives are also looking past the November election to the kind of White House they want should Mr. Romney win. For some conservatives — especially those who identify themselves with the Tea Party movement — winning is not enough.

For some of those conservatives, a Romney administration stocked with moderate Republicans is almost as bad as a second term for Mr. Obama.

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The clamor you are hearing for Paul Ryan for VP is not about helping the Romney candidacy. It’s about controlling the Romney campaign — and ultimately the Romney presidency. It’s about forcing a platform on Romney, and then dictating the agenda for that presidency’s first year. The platform happens to be suicidal, and the agenda impossible, but that does not matter to the Ryan advocates. They take the old Tammany Hall point of view: “Better to lose an agenda than lose control of the party.”

In that sense, the Ryan proposal is a test of Romney’s leadership. If he accedes, it’s a big surrender of control — and a surrender to many of those who most opposed (and who inwardly continue to dislike) his nomination.

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But the smaller, more Machiavellian point is that Ryan is Romney’s best chance to diffuse the blame if he loses this election. If Romney chooses the proverbial “incredibly boring white guy” and then goes down in November, conservatives will place the blame squarely on Romney’s shoulders: He was a flip-flopping, Massachusetts Moderate with a cautious campaign and a car garage. The narrative, in fact, is already set. In July, the Wall Street Journal editorial page accused Romney of “slowly squandering an historic opportunity.” They would simply have to change “squandering” to “squandered.” And Romney knows it.

But if Romney chooses Ryan — if he makes this the “big election over big issues” that the Wall Street Journal editorial page wants — then his loss will be their loss as well. He’ll still be blamed, of course. But the fact will remain that he took conservative counsel, adopted conservative ideas, named a conservative hero as his vice president, ran on the Ryan budget, and lost to a liberal. The right will not be able to pretend they weren’t on the ticket. They will have chosen the ticket. The right will not be able to say Romney ran a cautious campaign. They will have cranked his campaign’s strategy up to 11.

What’s less clear is what conservatives get out of the deal, save the opportunity to see Ryan debate Joe Biden. If Ryan is named to the ticket and the ticket loses, the loss will discredit the Ryan budget, and empower those in the Republican Party who want to pivot back to the center. Whereas conservatives have some chance of winning the intraparty argument if Romney/Portman loses — “we shouldn’t have nominated the insincere moderate,” they’ll say — they have little chance of arguing that the Republican Party simply didn’t run hard enough on the Ryan budget if Romney/Ryan loses.

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That didn’t take long, did it?

Liam on April 8, 2013 at 7:25 PM

Any alternative plan proposed by a Democrat is simply going to be “raise and create more taxes”, not reform or reduce them.

catmman on April 8, 2013 at 7:27 PM

speaking as the resident Jindalista….Coward

annoyinglittletwerp on April 8, 2013 at 7:28 PM

OT: Drudge Headline: THE 1,500-PAGE IMMIGRATION BILL?
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On Jindal, keep it up Bobby, I’m still with ya. You’re moving the Overton window and that’s all to the good.

Dusty on April 8, 2013 at 7:29 PM

GONE: TAX REFORM AND PERFORM

HERE: TAX COMPROMISE AND DEMISE

Varchild on April 8, 2013 at 7:32 PM

State Rep. Katrina Jackson, D-Monroe, said she and other members of the Black Caucus would propose an alternative plan.

LMAO – taxing whitey to add to Obama’s stash doesn’t qualify as a serious plan.

Daemonocracy on April 8, 2013 at 7:35 PM

People just do not like the idea of swapping income tax for sales tax.

It feels like a con, and you’re going to pay more via sales than income.

budfox on April 8, 2013 at 7:35 PM

And I am disappointed Jindal has backed off so soon, but who knows, maybe he’s asking for what he knew he couldn’t get to force some kind of reform.

Daemonocracy on April 8, 2013 at 7:36 PM

5.88% is less sales tax than Michigan’s 6%

Varchild on April 8, 2013 at 7:37 PM

“Working together” with demorats means one thing to them: Bend over.

Bishop on April 8, 2013 at 7:37 PM

I know plenty of people who would love to swap a sales tax for an income tax.

At least you can control the amount of money you give to the state with a sales tax. Most day to day stuff is exempted (food primarily). With a sales tax you at least have control of where and how much.

With an income tax, it’s involuntarily confiscated and most of it is wasted.

Don’t see what the big deal would be.

catmman on April 8, 2013 at 7:40 PM

Steel Bendy Straw Spine.

portlandon on April 8, 2013 at 7:40 PM

“State Rep. Katrina Jackson, D-Monroe, said she and other members of the Black Caucus would propose an alternative plan.”

I suppose there isn’t a White Caucus in the Louisiana Legislature or I would have seen an expose of the endemic racism of the South.

Drained Brain on April 8, 2013 at 7:43 PM

Jindal backs off of his tax reform plan: “Let’s work together”

lolololololololololol.

Even the crazy fringe conservatives who live in LA are seeing the light. For a while i could have sworn they were for paying their bosses taxes as long as said bosses promised to keep them on the job.

HotAirLib on April 8, 2013 at 8:06 PM

Bobby, Bobby, you must at least start on the “Right” side, then you can move closer to the center. If, as most of you tend to do, start in the middle, you always move left…always!

rgranger on April 8, 2013 at 8:08 PM

Getting rid of the Income Tax would be a boon for Louisiana. His critics were just that critical of any idea as they have none of their own.

Grunt on April 8, 2013 at 8:29 PM

job.

HotAirLib on April 8, 2013 at 8:06 PM

…BLOW

KOOLAID2 on April 8, 2013 at 10:14 PM

…so how is he different?

KOOLAID2 on April 8, 2013 at 10:21 PM

Just for shits’n'giggles, I did an experiment with the taxes where I live.

I used an online tax tool to fill out annual income taxes as if I were a single mom with two kids making $40,000 per year, living in Toronto (Ontario, Canada), and paying $950 per month in rent. I took advantage of every deduction that she could get for her kids. I then assumed that all money left after income tax and rent is spent on taxable goods at our current sales tax rate of 13%. I did not try to take into account items that don’t have sales taxes, like basic groceries.

I then calculated what would happen if there was no income tax and, instead, just a 20% sales tax. Assuming that the mom spends everything after rent on taxable goods (again, not trying to account for non-taxable items like staple foods), she pays a total of… $2000 a year less in total taxes with the sales tax-only approach.

Whenever I argue for eliminating income taxes and moving to a higher sales tax, my left-leaning cow-orkers always freak out and call me a racist, a Nazi, and so on.

Then I show them the math.

Then I ask them why they hate single moms.

Then they stop talking to me.

Lickmuffin on April 8, 2013 at 11:49 PM