Fun on a slow news day — debunking liberal memes

posted at 10:41 am on August 9, 2012 by Dustin Siggins

With Congress in recess, things are kind of slow this week. So when I ran across a Bloomberg op-ed with exaggerated attacks on the Tea Party, and two typical Think Progress blog posts, I thought I’d have a little fun taking them down.

First, the Bloomberg piece. The author’s basic thesis is that the Tea Party is going to shut down Congress, and it’s only the extremist, “virginal” Republican conservatives who are winning in Senate Republican primaries. She cites the Texas run-off election, the Connecticut Senate race, and the Nebraska and Indiana Senate races. Of course, she seems to forget that Rep. Akin (R-MO) — no moderate or liberal, but not backed by the Tea Party or Sarah Palin, either — won the Republican Senate primary in Missouri. Did she miss Senator Hatch’s (R-UT) victory, or former Senator George Allen’s in Virginia? I guess she must have missed those races as well.

Of course, the author’s summary of criticisms against former Rep. Chris Shays in Connecticut and David Dewhurst in Texas is pretty simple — they reached across the aisle! They associated with leadership! Never mind that Dewhurst was bashed for being part of a corrupt system in Texas, and for supporting amnesty and a wage tax. Also, never mind that the author’s “across the aisle” example for Shays was campaign-finance reform…meaning she thinks it’s a good idea to support a candidate who voted at least once for a very unconstitutional law.

Onto Think Progress. They say Rep. Akin has a long history of “extremist, inflammatory” positions, mostly on issues related to homosexual marriage and related issues. However, they also bash him for thinking the 17th Amendment should be repealed and for opposing Medicare; for wanting to leave the United Nations; and for saying the student loan debate is part of America’s decline to “stage three cancer of socialism.”

Only one problem with these criticisms: Akin’s views pretty much line up with conservative philosophies and principles. Which means Akin isn’t extreme. Rather, Think Progress is either so liberal or so intellectually dishonest its writers refuse to admit what conservative philosophies actually are. It would be like me saying liberals who want to raise taxes are extreme — their position is flat-out wrong, but it’s well within the principles of their movement.

In their other blog post, Think Progress bashes the Chairman of the RNC for calling Senator Harry Reid (D-NV) a liar over his Romney tax comments. From the post, with the second emphasis added (Think Progress added the first bolded section):

PRIEBUS: As far as Harry Reid is concerned, listen, I know you might want to go down that road, I’m not going to respond to a dirty liar, who hasn’t filed a single page of tax returns himself, complains about people with money, but lives in the Ritz-Carlton here down the street. So if that’s on the agenda, I’m not going to go there. This is just a made-up issue. The fact that we’re going to spend any time talking about it is just ridiculous.


Assuming Priebus meant to say that Reid has not publicly released his tax returns, it is worth noting that given the level of the office, most successful presidential nominees have released their tax returns since the 1970s. The same tradition does not apply to those in Congress and Reid has never been a presidential candidate.

Reid, citing an anonymous source, claimed this week that Romney may not have paid any taxes for 10 years.

On Friday, Romney himself dismissed Reid’s attacks, lamenting the tone of the campaign. He said “I had hoped it would be a debate about the direction of the country. What we’re seeing instead is one attack after the other — misleading, false attacks.”

I have to ask — does anyone actually think Priebus was talking about Reid being a liar over his tax returns? ‘Cause I sure don’t. I think he was talking about the unsourced accusation that Mitt Romney didn’t pay taxes for ten years.

The ironic thing about these disparate examples of liberal overreaction is simply that: overreaction. Most conservatives don’t call liberals “extreme” for wanting to raise taxes, or for believing in global warming or a larger federal government. We recognize that these positions are, depending on their scale, within the mainstream political debate necessary in a thriving republic. Just because someone is wrong does not make them extreme, yet that is what liberals seem keen on doing to the reputation of anyone to the right of Senator John McCain (R-AZ).

 


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Funny I have stopped giving PepsiCo a dime since they changed their symbol to OgabeCola……

http://www.thekmiecs.com/marketing-advertising/new-pepsi-logo-looks-like-obama-campaign-logo/

screw them

//Kos mode

harlekwin15 on August 9, 2012 at 10:46 AM

Just because someone is wrong does not make them extreme, yet that is what liberals seem keen on doing to the reputation of anyone to the right of Senator John McCain (R-AZ) whomever is the current Republican nominee.

Fixed.

aunursa on August 9, 2012 at 10:46 AM

John F. Kennedy would fit the “extreme radical conservative” label today. He was fervently anti-Communist and he realized that the way to grow the economy is to cut taxes. He was also a fan of traditional monogamous marriage…for other people.

RBMN on August 9, 2012 at 10:47 AM

Liberalism results from unresolved guilt and misplaced pity, concomitant with specific cognitive and emotional dysfunctions.

Akzed on August 9, 2012 at 10:48 AM

Fixed.

aunursa on August 9, 2012 at 10:46 AM

Yup we could nominate Jesus Christ, Mohammed, or Lenin they’s all be “monster neo-cons”….

we try to play chess…..

they are playing a game called “chainsaw”….

harlekwin15 on August 9, 2012 at 10:48 AM

John F. Kennedy would fit the “extreme radical conservative” label today. He was fervently anti-Communist and he realized that the way to grow the economy is to cut taxes. He was also a fan of traditional monogamous marriage…for other people.
RBMN on August 9, 2012 at 10:47 AM

LOL, true, but still LOL!

bgibbs1000 on August 9, 2012 at 10:51 AM

Liberalism results from unresolved guilt and misplaced pity, concomitant with specific cognitive and emotional dysfunctions.

Akzed on August 9, 2012 at 10:48 AM

“Brain disorder” would have sufficed.

bgibbs1000 on August 9, 2012 at 10:52 AM

LOL, true, but still LOL!

bgibbs1000 on August 9, 2012 at 10:51 AM

Come now let’s not kid….

Men and mistresses is a game as old as time….

it also lends to the point that marriage is a family oriented status.

harlekwin15 on August 9, 2012 at 10:53 AM

Assuming Priebus meant to say that Reid has not publicly released his tax returns, it is worth noting that given the level of the office, most successful presidential nominees have released their tax returns since the 1970s. The same tradition does not apply to those in Congress and Reid has never been a presidential candidate.

…..”it’s about tradition” is nothing more than a liberal dodge of their own hypocrisy.

Releasing tax returns (which Romney has done…just not the 20 plus years liberals want) is supposed to be a transparent move for the public to see how an elected official has conducted itself…..
………..narrowing this down to just the President is pathetic when Senators and Congressman weld so much power.

If it is so important to see tax returns….then the people setting our laws and controlling our tax dollars like Reid,Pelosi,and Debbie should be just as transparent as they demand of others.

Put up or shut up.

Baxter Greene on August 9, 2012 at 10:56 AM

I especially loathe how liberals keep moving the bar of what constitutes extremist views. Now that President Kardashian has conveniently evolved on same sex marriage, anyone who supports traditional marriage is an extremist. None of these people would have called Barack Obama an extremist months ago for having the same views.

It scares me to read the comment section on some of those sites, and even at the New York Times. These people think our Constitution is a joke and meaningless. But people who think it is genius and worth adhering to are extremists. They use “originalist” as an epithet akin to “racist.”

rockmom on August 9, 2012 at 10:57 AM

Most conservatives don’t call liberals “extreme” for wanting to raise taxes, or for believing in global warming or a larger federal government.

Extreme is in the actions not the mere belief in global warming or a large nanny state. In this regard, Obama and his entire crowd are extremists. They’ve rejected free market capitalism for socialism, they’ve selectively enforced the law including our basic rights, and they’ve set up conditions where society creates winners and losers based on political ideology. I don’t call this liberal over-reaction, I call it treason.

And BTW, if you stand for anything other than their set of talking points then you are an extremist hater intent on taking us back to the bad old days (when there was low unemployment and a productive economy). The CEO of Chick-Fil-A cannot hold the same position Obama held until he needed gays to contribute to his campaign without calls for a boycott of the company.

Happy Nomad on August 9, 2012 at 10:58 AM

From the article above:

Most conservatives don’t call liberals “extreme” for wanting to raise taxes, or for believing in global warming or a larger federal government.

Actually most conservatives do call those liberal ideas extreme, it’s the fake conservatives that don’t.

bgibbs1000 on August 9, 2012 at 10:58 AM

The same tradition does not apply to those in Congress and Reid has never been a presidential candidate.

LOL. Since when has the left cared about tradition? I guess they do when it doesn’t apply to them.

RadClown on August 9, 2012 at 11:01 AM

“Brain disorder” would have sufficed.
bgibbs1000 on August 9, 2012 at 10:52 AM

I was trying to sound hoitie toitie.

I don’t know if it’s a brain disorder, which would make it a physical problem. It can occasionally be corrected non-surgically and non-medically using logic and facts.

Akzed on August 9, 2012 at 11:05 AM

You know what else is traditional? The definition of marriage as one man, one woman. #justsaying

Ed Morrissey on August 9, 2012 at 11:11 AM

Liberals cannot see the effects of the things they believe in. They are like a virus. They destroy one state’s economy. Don’t like the results. Then move on to destroy another one.

They live in a rainbow colored world where there is no cause and effect.

lorien1973 on August 9, 2012 at 11:12 AM

Disagreement=extremist. The only math equation a Lib knows.

hillsoftx on August 9, 2012 at 11:12 AM

I think the 17th Amendment should be repealed too.

Someone at Hot Air should start a thread on this subject.

BigGator5 on August 9, 2012 at 11:17 AM

You know what else is traditional? The definition of marriage as one man, one woman. #justsaying

Ed Morrissey on August 9, 2012 at 11:11 AM

Public campaign financing used to be traditional as well….until 2008.

weaselyone on August 9, 2012 at 11:18 AM

The one thing about liberals, that is consistent, they’re out of the mainstream. My guess is that’s one of the reasons they’re so loud because, when the facts aren’t on your side, all you can do is scream about the process.

I sincerely hope the Democrats get booted out this time and they are forced to put people in their leadership who are in the mainstream.

bflat879 on August 9, 2012 at 11:19 AM

It’s part of their mindset regarding framing the argument. They refuse to acknowledge that the other side’s beliefs are legitimate therefore everything the other believes is extreme. Typical lefty.

njrob on August 9, 2012 at 11:21 AM

I sincerely hope the Democrats get booted out this time and they are forced to put people in their leadership who are in the mainstream.

bflat879 on August 9, 2012 at 11:19 AM

I would go one better and say the Democrats seriously need to force out the loopy looney liberals who are hellbent for leather determined to destroy the things that made this country great, and will lie, cheat, malign, steal, whatever it takes to make that a reality!

The Democratic Party of today is NOT the Democratic Party of Franklin D. Roosevelt! Not be a longshot!

pilamaye on August 9, 2012 at 11:24 AM

Just because someone is wrong does not make them extreme, yet that is what liberals seem keen on doing to the reputation of anyone to the right of Senator John McCain (R-AZ).

I can’t believe it’s an accident or a coincidence that they do this all the time.

yhxqqsn on August 9, 2012 at 11:25 AM

I especially loathe how liberals keep moving the bar of what constitutes extremist views. Now that President Kardashian has conveniently evolved on same sex marriage, anyone who supports traditional marriage is an extremist. None of these people would have called Barack Obama an extremist months ago for having the same views.

It scares me to read the comment section on some of those sites, and even at the New York Times. These people think our Constitution is a joke and meaningless. But people who think it is genius and worth adhering to are extremists. They use “originalist” as an epithet akin to “racist.”

rockmom on August 9, 2012 at 10:57 AM

Hence the Overton Window.

njrob on August 9, 2012 at 11:25 AM

Disagreement=extremist. The only math equation a Lib knows.

hillsoftx on August 9, 2012 at 11:12 AM

This little gem from Schumer spells it all out”

“I always use the word ‘extreme,’ that’s what the caucus instructed me to do the other week.”

Fallon on August 9, 2012 at 11:26 AM

Michelle Bachman – extreme bat s#@t crazy woman who has pictures showing “crazy eyes”.

Nancy Pelosi – Tough Congresswoman who gets stuff done who has pictures showing “intense looking eyes”.

weaselyone on August 9, 2012 at 11:27 AM

There was a time when a liberal was someone who you could beate without being labeled a racist bigot gay bashing woman hating caveman terrorist.

I can remember having fun debates with a good friend who was a Ted Kennedy democrat in the barracks in 1981.. I hardly ever made him cry.. on purpose anyway.. but even then, the roots were there, hatred of the rich.. (except rich democrats of course, who are never to be questioned).. the snide aspersions of the GOP presidents are all moron’s.. or diabolically evil geniuses..

Ever since I was old enough to notice.. the republicans were labeled stupid or evil.. sometimes both.

Democrats ignored the mentions of their hypocrisy regarding their own rich.. dems who really were stupid.. or evil.. like Ohio’s Senator Metzenbaum.. the man was his times Harry lie like a cheap rug Reid. Maxine (the CIA on Reagan’s order sold crack in the black urban centers”) Waters.

she has yet to retract that lie.

or the dead end communists in the CBC.. West was right about them..

The democrats since 68 have been ever more rapidly devolving into even more crazy left wing nutjobs.. well their leadership actually, and certain party die hards.. their rank and file are largely extremely LOW information voters, voting D because daddy did, with all the attention span of an XBOX’er teen on Dew… They simply are not paying attention to what their party does..

I played this game on my mother in law..

Hey.. did you hear Bush.. wants to let all illegals stay forever and stop enforcing the laws on illegals… that he wants late term abortions no matter what… that he wanted to raise the taxes on the middle class and he wants to trust and appease Putin…

she sputtered in outrage.. “why that SOMBYTCH.. how dare he”… then I pointed out on the web, they were Obama positions.. and I got a deadly glare.. but a lot of rank and file dems are deep in denial.. their cognitive dissonance is epic. They simply believe whatever a dem says without question, and assign hated policies on the GOP even if it’s a democrat one.. they refuse to believe it.. must be a repub dirty trick..

That is the rank and file democrat.

and they claim they are the “smart” party..

mark81150 on August 9, 2012 at 11:32 AM

Yes, the stuff below was copied/pasted from Cap’n Ed’s “Primary Night” post/thread… If Mr. Siggins says it’s a “slow news day”, well, why not? This some Important Stuff, and it bears more discussion, well, because *I* say so!

In Kansas, half the nine out of thirteen targeted RINO State Senators were defeated by more conservative Republicans (and we only missed #10 by 159 votes!). These were targeted by a variety of citizen groups like the vibrant local TEA parties. There was a higher turnout than normal for primaries in those specific elections.

Here in Manhattan, KS, activist local Ds re-registered as Rs to boost the moderate Republican incumbent one of the very worst screaming RINOs. Did. not. happen. In a three-way [district] race, the most conservative candidate won by a landslide.

On to the General Election. Kansas may be on the upswing, after suffering the sloughs of despond under Democratic governorships and RINO legislatures, both reinforcing failure.

NaCly dog on August 8, 2012 at 11:41 AM

Hey there, Salty…
Sorry to nitpick on your post, and I’m not trying to steal your thunder, but our fellow readers in the Commentariat need to see the whole story:

With all due respect for the hard-working, long-suffering Good People at Kansans for Life, Americans for Prosperity and other Conservative PACs who have been fighting the Good Fight for years, it’s the Johnny-come-lately’s of the many “chapters” of the honest-to-grassroots Kansas TEA Party movement that capitalized on all the terrific foundation-work done by those others over the years and then leveraged it all to drop a NEUTRON BOMB on the Kansas Senate…

For non-KS residents who wouldn’t be familiar, the KS Senate consists of 40 members, of whom there were 8 Ds & 32 Rs, but *13* of those Rs were actually RINOs who habitually caucused with the Ds to get 21-19 votes to block each & every bill they didn’t like for the last 4 years.

Consequently, for us to vote out *9* of those RINOs *simultaneously* means that the surviving RINOs can go right ahead and vote with the Ds all they want and it just won’t matter. The RINO Blockade of the KS Senate is officially dead.

It’s also hugely significant to note that the losing RINOs included the incumbent Senate *President*, his incumbent Senate *Vice President*, and an inordinate number of major Committee Chairmanships… all… *gone*, baby, G-O-N-E.

In fairness to bewildered readers outside Kansas, you can take comfort in the thought that our own Governor Switchback *cough* Brownback doesn’t nearly understand what just happened either. We’ll be working on that in the months ahead.

In the meanwhile, alla y’all trying to dissect the races in MI, MO & WA really really need to be asking a different question:

WHAT THE HELL JUST HAPPENED IN KANSAS AND HOW CAN WE DUPLICATE IT IN *OUR* STATE??!!!

Oh, yeah, insiders are betting that 4 or 5 of the remaining 8 Senate Ds are vulnerable in their Districts in November… ;-)

Okay, class dismissed… Feel free to discuss. :-)
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DeepWheat on August 9, 2012 at 11:47 AM

Now that President Kardashian has conveniently evolved on same sex marriage, anyone who supports traditional marriage is an extremist. None of these people would have called Barack Obama an extremist months ago for having the same views.

rockmom on August 9, 2012 at 10:57 AM

Don’t assume they actually care. Lefties always knew he was lying, same goes for his faith. They are ok with Obama ‘playing the role’ because their only goal is winning and power.

Go RBNY on August 9, 2012 at 11:50 AM

Most conservatives don’t call liberals “extreme” for wanting to raise taxes, or for believing in global warming or a larger federal government. We recognize that these positions are, depending on their scale, within the mainstream political debate necessary in a thriving republic.

I disagree. When government is spending 43% of the GDP, calling for more spending is extreme.

Wanting to enact draconian global warming regulations are extreme.

In fact, one of the core problems of modern politics is that the left has been getting more extreme every year since the death of JFK, and the Right has moderated its positions to maintain equilibrium.

This explains the majority of the leftwing slide of the country over that time period.

We are now in the odd case that if someone wants to return the government to the size and scope of the Clinton years – when it was already deeply bloated – is an “extremist” to the left and the State Media.

18-1 on August 9, 2012 at 11:57 AM

When has a liberal every honestly represented a conservative’s position?

It just never happens. It’s part of their constant dishonesty – the fact that they know if we debated on the merits of this issue or that, and that they honestly acknowledged their position and honestly acknowledged their opponents’ position, they could never win.

Which is why they must always lie – both about their own position and about their opponents.

Monkeytoe on August 9, 2012 at 11:58 AM

Liberalism results from unresolved guilt and misplaced pity, concomitant with specific cognitive and emotional dysfunctions.

Akzed on August 9, 2012 at 10:48 AM

I’ve been looking everywhere for the clinical definition. Thanks.

Lost in Jersey on August 9, 2012 at 12:10 PM

Think Progress? Isn’t that just another of the many faces of George Soros? You can’t turn around on the Left without seeing the Sorosites everywhere. Still, if he wants to burn his money giving it to idiots, then let him! The more he pays the shriller they get and the more they self-marginalize

ajacksonian on August 9, 2012 at 12:12 PM

Of course, the author’s summary of criticisms against former Rep. Chris Shays in Connecticut and David Dewhurst in Texas is pretty simple — they reached across the aisle!

Well … when you have nothing but America-hating lunatics across the aisle, that reach is something that should not be tolerated, at all. The problem is not the reaching, of course, it’s who and what they are reaching to.

The left is nothing short of a domestic enemy, trying to take this nation down (they’ve already done away with the United States and have us effectively living in the American Socialist Superstate) and having no ideas that are in America’s interest or the interest of a free people, at all. The treasonous, lunatic dems need to be stopped cold while there’s still a smidgeon of a chance of restoring the United States. Any GOPer who works to help these enemies of progress is committing an unforgivable sin and should be tossed right out of office. Period. Anyone who is still in the dem party (after watching them cheer on the destruction of America and supporting the tens of impeachable, criminal, idiotic, underhanded un-American acts by the Indonesian Dog-Eater) is an enemy of America and low-life of the first order. A person with any sense of integrity would have left that party long ago. Those who have stayed allied with the leftist America-haters are who they are and represent the most dangerous, destructive force this society has EVER seen (along with the dumbest set of people running it – historically dumb).

Crossing the aisle to make deals with the terrorists of the left – the supporters of the Occupoopers, the destroyers of America – is to commit an unforgivable sin and is worthy of ejection from office and shunning.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on August 9, 2012 at 12:13 PM

The main problem the Left has with the Tea Party is it very success. It doesn’t win all its races but it has a very respectable win lose ratio because so many voters agree with it.

Remember when the Kossacks decided that Joe Lieberman had no place in the Democratic Party because he only voted for their agenda 90% of the time? They went on to beat him in the primary. I wonder whatever happen to Joe?

Laurence on August 9, 2012 at 12:15 PM

Just because someone is wrong does not make them extreme, yet that is what liberals seem keen on doing to the reputation of anyone to the right of Senator John McCain (R-AZ) Barbara Boxer (D-CA).

FIFY. They bashed McCain as “extreme” as soon as he got the nomination last time. Anyone with an R after their name is extreme to them, because they actually think they’re the mainstream.

crazy_legs on August 9, 2012 at 12:29 PM

Just because someone is wrong does not make them extreme, yet that is what liberals seem keen on doing to the reputation of anyone to the right of Senator John McCain (R-AZ) whomever is the current Republican nominee.

Fixed.

aunursa on August 9, 2012 at 10:46 AM

This is the Alinsky tactic. You fix the target and dehumanize them and then it is easier to attack them. It is unrealistic to think that we are having a debate on the issues of the day with the liberal left.

redeye on August 9, 2012 at 12:30 PM

John F. Kennedy would fit the “extreme radical conservative” label today. He was fervently anti-Communist and he realized that the way to grow the economy is to cut taxes. He was also a fan of traditional monogamous marriage…for other people.
RBMN on August 9, 2012 at 10:47 AM

LOL, true, but still LOL!

bgibbs1000 on August 9, 2012 at 10:51 AM

I see what you did there :P

I ran into THIS beauty recently…

JetBoy on August 9, 2012 at 12:31 PM

Wait – so even when we aren’t wasting time debunking the latest progressive lie, have a ‘slow news day’, we’re supposed to yet again wile away the hours debunking liberal lies? What utter stupidity, what morons.
WRITE SOMETHING ORIGINAL, EXPOSING MARXICRAT CRIMES AND MALFEASANCE, you idiots.

rayra on August 9, 2012 at 12:43 PM

Dustin Siggins wrote:

Most conservatives don’t call liberals “extreme” for wanting to raise taxes, or for believing in global warming or a larger federal government. We recognize that these positions are, depending on their scale, within the mainstream political debate necessary in a thriving republic.

Huh?
If you want to move outside the Beltway cocktail party circuit and listen to actual conservatives, there’s a great blog with high traffic and a good consensus of mainstream right-of-center opinion…it’s called hotair.com . “Extreme” is pretty much the nicest thing said about The One, though.

sauldalinsky on August 9, 2012 at 1:20 PM

pilamaye on August 9, 2012 at 11:24 AM

They are the inevitable endpoint of FDR so yes they are the Party of FDR.

chemman on August 9, 2012 at 1:24 PM

I ran into THIS beauty recently…

JetBoy on August 9, 2012 at 12:31 PM

Yeah, that’s a nice comparison, but just one little problem:

Hardship of not buying CFA in a nation where you can’t throw a rock without hitting a fast-food joint: ZERO.

Hardship of not buying gas in a nation that is completely reliant on it: A lot more.

MelonCollie on August 9, 2012 at 1:40 PM

WRITE SOMETHING ORIGINAL, EXPOSING MARXICRAT CRIMES AND MALFEASANCE, you idiots.

rayra on August 9, 2012 at 12:43 PM

The Green room is right over there. ———->

I’ll be very interested in reading what you have to say.

Mary in LA on August 9, 2012 at 4:34 PM

If it is so important to see tax returns….then the people setting our laws and controlling our tax dollars like Reid,Pelosi,and Debbie should be just as transparent as they demand of others.

Put up or shut up.

Baxter Greene on August 9, 2012 at 10:56 AM

I’d say Majority Leader is a significant enough position to require the release of tax returns. He does have to get elected to it after all (albeit by other senators).

Nutstuyu on August 9, 2012 at 8:48 PM