WaPo/ABC poll shows Romney favorability plateaued, Obama dropping among registered voters

posted at 8:41 am on August 8, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Today’s Washington Post/ABC News poll gives a little bit of good news to Barack Obama — and therefore some bad news for Mitt Romney.  In an advance look at the overall poll results, Obama leads Romney on favorability.  However, the gap narrows when the poll reports only from registered voters, which the Post and ABC fail to mention:

Although 40 percent of voters now say they hold a favorable opinion of the former Massachusetts governor — virtually unchanged from May — those holding negative views of him ticked higher in the new survey, from 45 percent to 49 percent.

Meanwhile, President Obama remained in positive territory on that measure, with 53 percent of voters reporting favorable opinions of him. Only 43 percent say they feel unfavorably toward him.

To find the favorability gap among registered voters, one has to look at the report from the pollster, provided by ABC News.  Among RVs, Obama leads in favorability 49/42.  That represents a tie for the Obama low in this poll for 2012 (also 49% in February), while Romney’s 42% is the second-highest report for him since the primaries started in January.  Dropping three points in a month isn’t exactly great news for Romney, but it’s also not as bad as Obama’s drift as an incumbent — especially an incumbent who has spent well into nine figures this spring and summer trying to destroy Romney’s credibility through harshly negative advertising.

Of course, we have a lot of problems in the WaPo/ABC poll series with sampling. In these advance results reports, the sampling data is not usually included, and today’s report is no exception.  We can’t evaluate these results fully until we determine how well the modeling of the sample data matches that of the electorate in 2012.  That doesn’t mean that the information is entirely useless, however, especially within party-affiliation demographics.  Those results are a mixed bag for both candidates, too:

INDEPENDENTS – Obama’s gained back ground he’d lost among independents, customarily swing voters in national elections. In late May he fell numerically underwater among independents for the first time since December (45-52 percent favorable-unfavorable). He’s now back far in front of Romney in this group, largely because of gains among independent women.

Among all independents, Obama’s favorability rating is now 16 points higher than Romney’s (53 percent vs. 37 percent). At the same time, that narrows among independents who are registered to vote – 46 percent favorable for Obama, 38 percent for Romney – indicating, among other factors, the potential importance of voter registration drives in the few months ahead.

That’s an eight-point swing among independents between general-population adults and registered voters — which sounds a little odd to me.  I’d expect to see some difference, but eight points is pretty large.  Still, this isn’t good news for Romney, who needs to beat Obama’s seven-point win in 2008 among unaffiliated voters.

However, Romney has some good news on the Republican-unity front:

Among partisans, Romney’s caught up with Obama in popularity within his own party; 83 percent of Republicans rate Romney positively, as do 84 percent of Democrats for Obama. That’s Romney’s best-ever rating with the party faithful, up 25 points since mid-March.

Romney’s rated favorably by fewer conservatives, 65 percent, though this, too, is a new high.

That’s not a bad development, nor is Romney in desperate straits as we roll toward the conventions.  Team Obama still hasn’t scored a knockout, and they’re three weeks away from getting seriously outpunched in the general election.  Having an incumbent at 49% favorability among registered voters suggest that it’s probably lower among likely voters — and both are bad numbers for the candidate looking for re-election.

Update: Yes, I meant to say three weeks – or to be very precise, three weeks and two days.  Romney can start spending general-election cash once he accepts the nomination at the convention, and that is the official start of the general election.


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Why are we giving any time to polls right now?They are designed to discourage us. Meanwhile,I ,for one,and know I’m not alone,am not falling for it.

ohiobabe on August 8, 2012 at 9:39 AM

For example, being critical of Britain was just stupid. Candor wasn’t needed in that instance. Why was Romney so squishy with Chick-fil-A? Obama has 3,700 black pastors joining together to rag on him about SSM, and Romney comes across as not much more forceful on the issue. On the tax returns, what’s the problem? Screw 10 years, but I can’t understand why he didn’t get this behind him months ago. Okay, he’s rich. What else? This way, he’s rich, and he’s hiding something. And while I thought Obama’s horse ad was childish, why in the heck did Romney enter that damn horse in the Olympics? All it did was reinforce the meme? I’ll bet Reagan Democrats love hearing how Romney drops more on that damn horse in a year than they make all year. As we asked with McCain, does Romney really want to win? I’m just reminded of the LaJolla car elevator. If you’re running for president and you’re loaded, do you have to build that thing during your campaign. These are all unforced errors.

It makes worry that he’ll conclude that Pawlenty is the VP candidate to put him over the top.

BuckeyeSam on August 8, 2012 at 9:32 AM

Ugh, it just makes you want to pull your hair out. This should be a total slam dunk for the GOP. They got the damn horse competing in Britain — you know, the country he insulted when he got off the plane.

Unbelievable. I think he will pick Portman and really put the FAIL into his campaign. :-(

Punchenko on August 8, 2012 at 9:42 AM

Am I the only one to have noticed how the LSM turns EVERY subject that they’re being massacred on, via pundits on the right, into the ‘likeability polls’ ?
It’s almost predictable … As you watch their faces, one can say ‘here it comes’, and the next thing they do is change the subject they’re losing into “but the polls say”…
Such helpless, predictable twerps !

pambi on August 8, 2012 at 9:43 AM

If anyone thinks that Sarah Palin would be losing to Obama by more than Romney, I have a ocean side condo for sale in Arizona.

And at least with Palin she would be in it for the fight and smoking out Obama for the foreign radical thug he truly is.

But, hey… Romney can say he ran a respectable, gentlemanly campaign against the Chicago thug (as he’s called a murderer, felon, etc).

And just like McCain that will get him a tuna sandwich and an invite to Obama’s inauguration.

The GOPe absolutely blows.

kevinkristy on August 8, 2012 at 9:46 AM

Indeed, Romney’s cash advantage isn’t going to be able to translate into changed minds as much as people around here think. Is he going to come up with anything new about Obama? We’ve heard all the anti-Obama attacks. As much as the conservative blogosphere would like to pretend otherwise CNN and MSNBC viewers are privvy to conservative attacks (though on MSNBC they get a twisted version of them) and people who watch Fox, well they are the most familiar with them of all. There’s simply no where new for Romney to go, which is why he latched onto “You Didnt’ Build That.”

Btw, is Hot Air *ever* going to talk about the Tsx Policy Center’s review of Romney’s tax plan and the tax increases on the middle class therein? If Obama had released such a plan things around here would be hopping.

libfreeordie on August 8, 2012 at 9:18 AM

Nothing’s set in stone on either side until Obama and Romney go face-to-face in the debates in October. Anything ‘trending’ before that time is just one gaffe away from being reversed, based on the history of televised debates and their ability to shape the tone of campaigns in the ensuing weeks (see Kennedy ’60, Carter ’76, Reagan ’80-’84, Clinton ’92, and Bush ’00 for debate moments that became major parts of the remaining campaign for the winner).

jon1979 on August 8, 2012 at 9:47 AM

What in hell is an “independent”? By the time you reach voting age you should have a well developed value system and only a fool or a psychopath would still be vacillating between the radical differences that separate Obama and Romney.

rplat on August 8, 2012 at 9:47 AM

The obama “Romney gave my wife cancer” ad is turning into a DISASTER for barack, as is dirty harry’s slander, they are backpedaling everywhere. Likability is all he’s got left, and it won’t be enough.

Rational Thought on August 8, 2012 at 9:03 AM

Where is one backpedal? “You didnt build that” got their attention for a bit, but otherwise I have seen no backpedaling. Getting called out by a few media orgs does not count as a disaster and certainly not a backpedal.

ChrisL on August 8, 2012 at 9:47 AM

And just like McCain that will get him a tuna sandwich and an invite to Obama’s inauguration.

The GOPe absolutely blows.

kevinkristy on August 8, 2012 at 9:46 AM

That tuna sandwich must be pretty damn good.

Punchenko on August 8, 2012 at 9:51 AM

What “disaster”? Obama leads by 3.5 in the RCP average.

ddrintn on August 8, 2012 at 9:08 AM

..hey, turd breath, time to enroll in a math or stat class at the local J. C. May I recommend that you seriously investigate what happens when you average seriously Dem-skewed polls together with out weighting the results?

It’s like having a team batting average of .287 and bringing up a guy from the farm system who goes 3-for-4 in his first game and expecting the TBA to go to somewhere around .500, fool!

The War Planner on August 8, 2012 at 9:53 AM

Ugh, it just makes you want to pull your hair out. This should be a total slam dunk for the GOP. They got the damn horse competing in Britain — you know, the country he insulted when he got off the plane.

Unbelievable. I think he will pick Portman and really put the FAIL into his campaign. :-(

Punchenko on August 8, 2012 at 9:42 AM

Why should it be a slam dunk for the GOP? Obama’s been liked (for some reason) by people his entire term, he’s got tons of cash, and he’s got most of the media running interference for him all the time. Him losing has never been assured.

changer1701 on August 8, 2012 at 9:53 AM

What in hell is an “independent”?

Someone you like when they vote with your party and someone you revile as a “pyschopath”when they don’t.

libfreeordie on August 8, 2012 at 9:54 AM

The obama “Romney gave my wife cancer” ad is turning into a DISASTER for barack, as is dirty harry’s slander, they are backpedaling everywhere. Likability is all he’s got left, and it won’t be enough.

Rational Thought on August 8, 2012 at 9:03 AM

Where is one backpedal? “You didnt build that” got their attention for a bit, but otherwise I have seen no backpedaling. Getting called out by a few media orgs does not count as a disaster and certainly not a backpedal.

ChrisL on August 8, 2012 at 9:47 AM

It’s delusional. Things are starting to remind me a lot of 2008: the moderate candidate, the constant trashing of polls that show the moderate trailing, the reliance on the “Bradley Effect” and (in 2008) the PUMAs coming to the rescue…

ddrintn on August 8, 2012 at 9:54 AM

If anyone thinks that Sarah Palin would be losing to Obama by more than Romney, I have a ocean side condo for sale in Arizona.

kevinkristy on August 8, 2012 at 9:46 AM

..um..when the guy who sold the condo to you, did you ask where the ocean was? I’m thinking maybe you ought to see if you can get your money back.

The War Planner on August 8, 2012 at 9:56 AM

..hey, turd breath,

LOL…what are you, 56 going on 8?

time to enroll in a math or stat class at the local J. C. May I recommend that you seriously investigate what happens when you average seriously Dem-skewed polls together with out weighting the results?

The War Planner on August 8, 2012 at 9:53 AM

Why weren’t you ‘bots going on so much about polls that showed Romney to be Mr Electable Inevitable and Palin to be Ms HatedAndDespised?

ddrintn on August 8, 2012 at 9:56 AM

Someone you like when they vote with your party and someone you revile as a “pyschopath”when they don’t.

libfreeordie on August 8, 2012 at 9:54 AM

Ok, I’m trying to be fair. Nice response.

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libfreeordie on August 8, 2012 at 9:54 AM

..sure looks the trolls just received their checks from AxelTurd this month.

The War Planner on August 8, 2012 at 10:04 AM

I stand by my original statement. When is the last time Mitt did something like this?

He has to connect with average Americans, living in the Heartland, in order to win. I hope he does soon. This country cannot stasnd another 4 years of the Manchurian President.

kingsjester on August 8, 2012 at 10:05 AM

If anyone thinks that Sarah Palin would be losing to Obama by more than Romney, I have a ocean side condo for sale in Arizona.

kevinkristy on August 8, 2012 at 9:46 AM

..um..when the guy who sold the condo to you, did you ask where the ocean was? I’m thinking maybe you ought to see if you can get your money back.

The War Planner on August 8, 2012 at 9:56 AM

I built it myself. But I am more than willing to sell it to the those who still claim Romney (Mr Wonder Bread) was the best pick to fight a Chicago thug.

kevinkristy on August 8, 2012 at 10:06 AM

Why weren’t you ‘bots going on so much about polls that showed Romney to be Mr Electable Inevitable and Palin to be Ms HatedAndDespised?

ddrintn on August 8, 2012 at 9:56 AM

(1) Not a “bot”.
(2) Do not dislike Palin at all.
(3) If this animus the past year is because someone crapped on your precious candidate, then I’d seek help.
(4) Keep pumping that Pomeranian, old son.

The War Planner on August 8, 2012 at 10:07 AM

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libfreeordie on August 8, 2012 at 9:54 AM

..sure looks the trolls just received their checks from AxelTurd this month.

The War Planner on August 8, 2012 at 10:04 AM

They are going to be really upset come November. I will personally pay for their taxi ride to a bridge that they can please jump off

Conservative4ev on August 8, 2012 at 10:09 AM

I built it myself. But I am more than willing to sell it to the those who still claim Romney (Mr Wonder Bread) was the best pick to fight a Chicago thug.

kevinkristy on August 8, 2012 at 10:06 AM

..then you know, of course, that if you sell that property as “ocean front” you could be liable for fraud? Or were you too busy working on “Romney Caused My Wife to Die of Cancer” ads for the Obamaloney crew?

The War Planner on August 8, 2012 at 10:10 AM

If Romney picks Portman or Pawlenty, his poll numbers will actually go down. Mark that prediction down. He’s going to pick a dud and the polls will crash with a thud.

gumbyandpokey on August 8, 2012 at 10:10 AM

They are going to be really upset come November. I will personally pay for their taxi ride to a bridge that they can please jump off

Conservative4ev on August 8, 2012 at 10:09 AM

..naw, mate, we’ll split the costs.

:-D

The War Planner on August 8, 2012 at 10:11 AM

“I will personally pay for their taxi ride to a bridge that they can please jump off”

If anyone wants any bets on the outcome in November, I am more that willing to put my money up.

gumbyandpokey on August 8, 2012 at 10:11 AM

(1) Not a “bot”.

The War Planner on August 8, 2012 at 10:07 AM

ROFLMAO….and I hear Charlie Manson says he’s not a murderer, too…

ddrintn on August 8, 2012 at 10:12 AM

Polls this far out mean very little. Only fodder for all of us commenters on political websites to get our panties in a bunch about.

My prediction, which is just as valid as any poll we’ve seen:

Romney wins in a landslide. I’m talking 300 or more electoral votes and 55% popular…..if (and this is a big if) there is a fair election.

OButthead is doing his best to make sure it is not fair and skewed towards his godly self. Nobody has polled all the dead voters out there, and they will play significantly in this election if he gets his way. Also, watch out for the September surprise and expect to wake up one morning with us at war with Iran. Do you think the schoolbus bomber who killed all those Israeli kids and turns out to be a nice Michigan boy was not recruited by an OButthead operative? This man is pure evil and will do A.N.Y.T.H.I.N.G. to get reelected.

NOMOBO on August 8, 2012 at 10:15 AM

So who saddled us with a candidate who gets called a murderer and a felon – and whose response is basically: “That’s just silly. It’s not true.” ???

Drudge
Rove
FOX News
Romneybots
Politico
?????

The obit is pretty much written.

kevinkristy on August 8, 2012 at 10:15 AM

I built it myself. But I am more than willing to sell it to the those who still claim Romney (Mr Wonder Bread) was the best pick to fight a Chicago thug.

kevinkristy on August 8, 2012 at 10:06 AM

Yea, we should have gotten someone even dirtier and more dispicable than obambi to run against obambi. That would fix things. Go look out your window and enjoy your oceanview there in AZ.

VegasRick on August 8, 2012 at 10:18 AM

“I will personally pay for their taxi ride to a bridge that they can please jump off”

If anyone wants any bets on the outcome in November, I am more that willing to put my money up.

daveyandgoliath on August 8, 2012 at 10:11 AM

Just for you, Davey!

Del Dolemonte on August 8, 2012 at 10:19 AM

ROFLMAO….and I hear Charlie Manson says he’s not a murderer, too…

ddrintn on August 8, 2012 at 10:12 AM

..you are a pathetic little man, you know that, don’t you?

The War Planner on August 8, 2012 at 10:19 AM

Why should it be a slam dunk for the GOP? Obama’s been liked (for some reason) by people his entire term, he’s got tons of cash, and he’s got most of the media running interference for him all the time. Him losing has never been assured.

changer1701 on August 8, 2012 at 9:53 AM

He’s liked because no one is defining him. He gets on TV, smiles, blames everyone around him, and gets away with it. Meanwhile, Romney is being defined day and night as Gordon Gekko with nice houses, cars, horsies, riding b**** on a jet ski, and is unable to understand what it’s like to be middle class, losing your home, cutting back on expenses, etc.

Oh, and now Romney is being accused of snatching the health insurance away from a woman with cancer who died as a result of Mitt’s “greed”.

Mitt Romney is bringing a spork to a gun fight and is losing. :-(

Punchenko on August 8, 2012 at 10:20 AM

Where is one backpedal? “You didnt build that” got their attention for a bit, but otherwise I have seen no backpedaling. Getting called out by a few media orgs does not count as a disaster and certainly not a backpedal.

ChrisL on August 8, 2012 at 9:47 AM

There’s this blog I sometimes read. It’s called HotGas or something. Oh, lookee. Right there in the top right-hand corner, we’ve got MS-DNC, of all places, asking Robert Gibbs to defend this despicable ad. And there’s Gibbs…backpedaling. And this little bit of gutter politics hasn’t even begun to hit the polls and barack’s delicate “likability.”

Rational Thought on August 8, 2012 at 10:20 AM

That would fix things. Go look out your window and enjoy your oceanview there in AZ.

VegasRick on August 8, 2012 at 10:18 AM

..should we tell him it’s a mirage or just let him stew?

The War Planner on August 8, 2012 at 10:21 AM

Yea, we should have gotten someone even dirtier and more dispicable than obambi to run against obambi. That would fix things. Go look out your window and enjoy your oceanview there in AZ.

VegasRick on August 8, 2012 at 10:18 AM

Project much?

Who said someone has to be dirty and despicable to punch back against a radical thug like Obama? How about pointing out the truth, and tying his radical past to his present policies, i.e. Ayers/Wright to class warfare?

Oh, and maybe show a little emotion and indignation when you are basically called a murderer.

Is that too much to ask… Or is that beneath the office of a GOPe presidential candidate?

kevinkristy on August 8, 2012 at 10:25 AM

..sure looks the trolls just received their checks from AxelTurd this month.

The War Planner on August 8, 2012 at 10:04 AM

if they’re getting paid by the post rate the dentist in Tennessee is winning at a clip of just under a post every three minutes.

gumbypoker is second at a little over one every 3 1/2 minutes and libfree is coasting at a leisurly 9 1/2 minutes per post.

ddrintn is the loser by a mile

DanMan on August 8, 2012 at 10:27 AM

Oh, and now Romney is being accused of snatching the health insurance away from a woman with cancer who died as a result of Mitt’s “greed”.

Mitt Romney is bringing a spork to a gun fight and is losing. :-(

Punchenko on August 8, 2012 at 10:20 AM

..how do you know this? You privy to the same polling as the Romney campaign? Maybe The Pantload’s Hail Mary attempts over the past two months have been an attempt to get Romney down in the mud to wrestle with them and he ain’t taking the bait.

Isn’t Obama the one going for the prole/low-info vote with their Bain Evil+War on Dogs/Wimminses+Romney Magically Killed My Wife ads and the serious outgassing of their funds? Isn’t he the one writing these exec order and patronizing the immigrants, women, and people of the ghey persuasion?

The War Planner on August 8, 2012 at 10:28 AM

punchenko coming on hard to overtake libfree with kevinkristy well back of the pack

DanMan on August 8, 2012 at 10:29 AM

Let’s face it, Obama is successfully defining Romney now and no amount of ads in September and October are going to rehabilitate his image. I’ll be surprised if Romney can turn it around but it’s looking less and less likely.

RedRedRice on August 8, 2012 at 9:15 AM

And you really believe that a majority of voters want 4 more years of Obama and his utter failure? This election is not going to be about Romney, it is about Obama and his utterly failed record…nothing else… On elections day a majority of voters are going to ask themselves “do we want 4 more years of this crap?” Their answer will be “No, hell No”…

mnjg on August 8, 2012 at 10:30 AM

Bottom line: The barack campaign is doing its own internal polls, the kind where they have to be honest with themselves about where things stand, and as a result of those, they’re calling Romney a felon who causes cancer and kills people, dingy harry is flailing around doing a bad McCarthy imitation, barack is running millions of dollars in ads in states he shouldn’t even have to think about, and they’re trying to hang the whole thing on how much voters “like” barack.

What what they do, not what their media lapdogs say.

Rational Thought on August 8, 2012 at 10:30 AM

ddrintn is the loser by a mile

DanMan on August 8, 2012 at 10:27 AM

..a perpetual condition for that clown. Thanks for the stats, Dan!

The War Planner on August 8, 2012 at 10:30 AM

He’s liked because no one is defining him. He gets on TV, smiles, blames everyone around him, and gets away with it. Meanwhile, Romney is being defined day and night as Gordon Gekko with nice houses, cars, horsies, riding b**** on a jet ski, and is unable to understand what it’s like to be middle class, losing your home, cutting back on expenses, etc.

Oh, and now Romney is being accused of snatching the health insurance away from a woman with cancer who died as a result of Mitt’s “greed”.

Mitt Romney is bringing a spork to a gun fight and is losing. :-(

Punchenko on August 8, 2012 at 10:20 AM

Of course he gets away with it, because there’s no such thing as an honest media in this country. But even with all those advantages, he’s not running away with it…Romney is still right there. You’re forgetting the fact that he can’t spend his general election money yet, and that Obama has spent hundreds of millions so far to basically just be a few points ahead at this point, when not that many are paying attention.

changer1701 on August 8, 2012 at 10:31 AM

Bottom line: The barack campaign is doing its own internal polls, the kind where they have to be honest with themselves about where things stand, and as a result of those, they’re calling Romney a felon who causes cancer and kills people, dingy harry is flailing around doing a bad McCarthy imitation, barack is running millions of dollars in ads in states he shouldn’t even have to think about, and they’re trying to hang the whole thing on how much voters “like” barack.

What what they do, not what their media lapdogs say.

Rational Thought on August 8, 2012 at 10:30 AM

You got it exactly right. Their utterly desperate actions are an absolute proof that their internal polls are very bad. Obama is losing more than 15% of the Whites Voters who voted for him in 2008 in the swing states and with this he is going to lose the elections… The media polls can oversample democrats in any insane way they want to make Obama looks much stronger than he is but the reality is the opposite to that…

mnjg on August 8, 2012 at 10:44 AM

There’s this blog I sometimes read. It’s called HotGas or something. Oh, lookee. Right there in the top right-hand corner, we’ve got MS-DNC, of all places, asking Robert Gibbs to defend this despicable ad. And there’s Gibbs…backpedaling. And this little bit of gutter politics hasn’t even begun to hit the polls and barack’s delicate “likability.”

Rational Thought on August 8, 2012 at 10:20 AM

Did you read the article? He specifically didn’t backpedal. He changed the subject. Didn’t even admit it was over the top. Again, called out on a little watched morning show – not a disaster in my books.

Has Harry Reid backpedaled his slander? He’s triple-downed on it. Hell Carney was, in his official role as WH spokesperson, even saying Romney should just release them. That isn’t a backpedal.

If the country’s performance over the past few years hasn’t touched his likability…why is an ad (that most people won’t even know is false) suddenly hurt it?

ChrisL on August 8, 2012 at 10:45 AM

Btw, is Hot Air *ever* going to talk about the Tsx Policy Center’s review of Romney’s tax plan and the tax increases on the middle class therein? If Obama had released such a plan things around here would be hopping.

libfreeordie on August 8, 2012 at 9:18 AM

My guess is that at some point they’ll link the WSJ editorial, which eviscerates this shoddy specimen of political hackery by Obama’s former economic advisor. The internal contradictions of TPC’s “review” alone (“we can’t calculate the full implications of Romney’s policy because he hasn’t elaborated that policy, nevertheless we’ll assume that he’s going to tax the middle class”) render it useless as analysis, and barely worth anyone else’s time to refute.

de rigueur on August 8, 2012 at 10:48 AM

Of course he gets away with it, because there’s no such thing as an honest media in this country. But even with all those advantages, he’s not running away with it…Romney is still right there. You’re forgetting the fact that he can’t spend his general election money yet, and that Obama has spent hundreds of millions so far to basically just be a few points ahead at this point, when not that many are paying attention.

changer1701 on August 8, 2012 at 10:31 AM

A few points wins him the election. Karl Rove and the other Super PACs should be spending $$$ defining and softening up Barry as ruthlessly as Barry has been defining Romney. Sitting around, keeping mum, and saying “President Obama is a nice guy, but he’s just in over his head” isn’t doing the trick — not when people are really, really hurting and looking for an alternative.

Punchenko on August 8, 2012 at 10:50 AM

I just look at them and ask myself “Which one looks nervous?”

It ain’t Mitt.

taternuggets on August 8, 2012 at 10:58 AM

Why oh why are we still being given poll results without crosstabs? Until we seem the demo, the results mean absolutely zero. Please HotAir, stop cheapening the site with this garbage; give us all the information or wait until before analyzing it. This is no better than Brian Williams.

BKeyser on August 8, 2012 at 10:58 AM

*see* the demo…

*wait until before analyzing it.*

And poor typists like myself really need an edit feature so we don’t lose credibility in our constructive criticism. ;-)

BKeyser on August 8, 2012 at 11:00 AM

Yahoo is already putting out a ridiculous articles are Pawlenty this morning. Obama can’t run on his record so he puts out the most ludicrous articles and ads, making him look like the loser he is.

jqc1970 on August 8, 2012 at 11:01 AM

Let’s face it, Obama is successfully defining Romney now and no amount of ads in September and October are going to rehabilitate his image. I’ll be surprised if Romney can turn it around but it’s looking less and less likely.

RedRedRice on August 8, 2012 at 9:15 AM

And you really believe that a majority of voters want 4 more years of Obama and his utter failure? This election is not going to be about Romney, it is about Obama and his utterly failed record…nothing else… On elections day a majority of voters are going to ask themselves “do we want 4 more years of this crap?” Their answer will be “No, hell No”…

mnjg on August 8, 2012 at 10:30 AM

If Romney does not make the election about what he has to offer to replace Obama’s failures, why would anyone vote for him? Obama is effectively chipping away at Romney’s strengths by portraying him as an evil, out of touch millionaire. The best Romney can hope for is that the idiots who voted for Obama last time around stay home and the Republicans do another Wisconsin and hit the polls in droves.

RedRedRice on August 8, 2012 at 11:04 AM

The only polls I’d give credibility to right now would be Rasmussen and Gallup. The rest are in the tank for Obama and are trying as hard as they can to discourage Obama’s opponents.

ABC/Washington Post poll — hah! I give them almost as much credibility as I give the Obama spin machine — of which they are a part.

hachiban on August 8, 2012 at 11:08 AM

I’ll put up 1000.00 that Obama wins (for charity or profit, I don’t care). Who among the poll bashers here is willing to put their money up and back up their nonsense that the polls are wrong and Mitt has some brilliant rope-a-dope thingy going on?

Let’s see who REALLY believes the crap their spewing!

gumbyandpokey on August 8, 2012 at 11:12 AM

I’ll put up 1000.00 that Obama wins (for charity or profit, I don’t care). Who among the poll bashers here is willing to put their money up and back up their nonsense that the polls are wrong and Mitt has some brilliant rope-a-dope thingy going on?

Let’s see who REALLY believes the crap their spewing!

gumbyandpokey on August 8, 2012 at 11:12 AM

Actually the best way to do this, is to set up a trust fund where each puts in the required amount, than after the election, the funds are distributed, usually to a non-profit…but the funds are physically there.

The initial amount, is returned to the winner, and the loser amount (less the handling charge) is sent to recipient.

There are websites that do this…you are okay with that arrangement?

right2bright on August 8, 2012 at 11:12 AM

right2bright on August 8, 2012 at 11:15 AM

Let’s see who REALLY believes the crap their spewing!

gumbyandpokey on August 8, 2012 at 11:12 AM

Hello, anyone home? Knock, knock…anyone home?

right2bright on August 8, 2012 at 11:20 AM

Why should it be a slam dunk for the GOP? Obama’s been liked (for some reason) by people his entire term, he’s got tons of cash, and he’s got most of the media running interference for him all the time. Him losing has never been assured.

changer1701 on August 8, 2012 at 9:53 AM

Exactly. We knew this would be n uphill battle against the MSM no matter who we put up against Obama. We also knew Obama would lie and never get called on it. We knew anything that happened that reflected badly on him would be suppressed by the MSM. This is how they did it before. I never expected a slam dunk.

I also question posters who think that because Romney has a horse in the Olympics or upset the British by telling the them the truth that it is hurting Romney in polls. That sounds like liberal nonsense to me.

magicbeans on August 8, 2012 at 11:21 AM

I guess not…well, nice bluff…good try…

right2bright on August 8, 2012 at 11:22 AM

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!

right2bright on August 8, 2012 at 11:25 AM

What in hell is an “independent”?

rplat on August 8, 2012 at 9:47 AM

Someone who hasn’t taken the time to look at the issues, to look at the candidates, to understand what’s going on…yet still wants a seat at the table with the Adults to talk about it.

Someone who is afraid of taking a position out of fear and/or lack of self-esteem to stand behind and defend their position. Instead, they are most comfortable in attacking others for their positions, while avoiding criticisms by not taking a position.

“Independents” often refer to themselves as “free thinkers.” Free is the operative word here because you get what you pay for. Generally not the brightest of people, which is why Obama was elected.

BruthaMan on August 8, 2012 at 11:27 AM

“There are websites that do this…you are okay with that arrangement?”

That sounds good to me.

It would be interesting to really see who has the courage of their convictions, or if they’re just giving spin that they don’t really believe.

And it doesn’t have to be so much money, either.

gumbyandpokey on August 8, 2012 at 11:28 AM

I’ll put up 1000.00 that Obama wins (for charity or profit, I don’t care). Who among the poll bashers here is willing to put their money up and back up their nonsense that the polls are wrong and Mitt has some brilliant rope-a-dope thingy going on?

Let’s see who REALLY believes the crap their spewing!

gumbyandpokey on August 8, 2012 at 11:12 AM

You are going to spend $ 1000 of tax payers you receive in welfare checks on a bet?

mnjg on August 8, 2012 at 11:30 AM

Obama will always win an “I ain’t no racist poll”. It is like the gay marriage polls.

I think it is good that america isn’t in love with Romney…The cultish love for Obama and to a certain extent Reagan always scares me.

tomas on August 8, 2012 at 11:33 AM

Let’s see who REALLY believes the crap their THEY’RE spewing!

gumbyandpokey on August 8, 2012 at 11:12 AM

..why doncha hold back about$120 of that for an English grammar class over at the local community college?

The War Planner on August 8, 2012 at 11:39 AM

I’ll put up 1000.00 that Obama wins (for charity or profit, I don’t care). Who among the poll bashers here is willing to put their money up and back up their nonsense that the polls are wrong and Mitt has some brilliant rope-a-dope thingy going on?

Let’s see who REALLY believes the crap their spewing!

gumbyandpokey on August 8, 2012 at 11:12 AM

This is what you shouldn’t legalize drugs

Conservative4ev on August 8, 2012 at 11:46 AM

http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/08/abby-huntsman-denounces-gop-accepts-granholm-invitation-to-join-the-democrats/

Devastation. The Dog That Would Not Huntsman’s daughter abandons the GOP.

bayview on August 8, 2012 at 11:47 AM

Oh dear. This certainly won’t help those favorability numbers. Also, isn’t there something anti-Christian about getting in bed with mass-killers?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/08/mitt-romney-death-squads-bain_n_1710133.html

libfreeordie on August 8, 2012 at 11:49 AM

New Reuters poll..

Obama 49
Romney 42

That rope a dope strategy is brilliant!!

gumbyandpokey on August 8, 2012 at 11:49 AM

libfreeordie on August 8, 2012 at 11:49 AM

You never studied Propaganda in your history clases, did you, perfesser?

kingsjester on August 8, 2012 at 11:52 AM

And in that Reuters poll, the Dems only had a +2 pt partisan advantage, so the sample looks good.

gumbyandpokey on August 8, 2012 at 11:53 AM

Oh dear. This certainly won’t help those favorability numbers. Also, isn’t there something anti-Christian about getting in bed with mass-killers?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/08/mitt-romney-death-squads-bain_n_1710133.html

libfreeordie on August 8, 2012 at 11:49 AM

Everytime I want to read something totally stupid I go to huffpost….. or come here and read one of your posts.

VegasRick on August 8, 2012 at 11:57 AM

gumbyandpokey on August 8, 2012 at 11:49 AM

Does Reuters/Ipsos release cross tabs? I can’t seem to find them.

libfreeordie on August 8, 2012 at 11:57 AM

Devastation. The Dog That Would Not Huntsman’s daughter abandons the GOP.

bayview on August 8, 2012 at 11:47 AM

All it took was a job offer from Huffinton Post. If someone is willing to sell their soul for so little, they belong in the democrat party. The part of no morals, no values and no integrity. That’s why you joined, right? Or was it the welfare benefits?

BruthaMan on August 8, 2012 at 12:00 PM

Devastation. The Dog That Would Not Huntsman’s daughter abandons the GOP.

bayview on August 8, 2012 at 11:47 AM

Abby Huntsman, the daughter of former Republican presidential candidate Jon Huntsman, tells The Daily Caller that she was kidding when she appeared to accept an invitation from Current TV host Jennifer Granholm to join the Democratic Party…

Fallon on August 8, 2012 at 12:03 PM

Does Reuters/Ipsos release cross tabs? I can’t seem to find them.

libfreeordie on August 8, 2012 at 11:57 AM

Yeah, they are definitely not there. But this far out, they poll registered voters, which for obvious reasons is useless. So, even if the cross-tabs are legit (I have my doubts), I still would not take this poll too seriously.

milcus on August 8, 2012 at 12:05 PM

“Yeah, they are definitely not there. But this far out, they poll registered voters, which for obvious reasons is useless. So, even if the cross-tabs are legit (I have my doubts), I still would not take this poll too seriously.”

So take away two points for a likely voter screen. That still leaves Obama up five.

You guys are becoming a joke trying to spin away each and every poll that comes out.

But, again, that’s what losing campaigns, and supporters of losing campaigns do.

gumbyandpokey on August 8, 2012 at 12:09 PM

New poll of Virginia from Rasmussen…

Obama 48
Romney 46

gumbyandpokey on August 8, 2012 at 12:16 PM

So take away two points for a likely voter screen. That still leaves Obama up five.

gumbyandpokey on August 8, 2012 at 12:09 PM

And a 4 pt margin for error.

magicbeans on August 8, 2012 at 12:18 PM

“And a 4 pt margin for error.”

True, but the problem is that all the polls are showing the trend to Obama, so it’s not likely that there is any significant error.

No polls are showing movement to Romney.

The attacks are working.

gumbyandpokey on August 8, 2012 at 12:20 PM

True, but the problem is that all the polls are showing the trend to Obama, so it’s not likely that there is any significant error.

No polls are showing movement to Romney.

The attacks are working.

gumbyandpokey on August 8, 2012 at 12:20 PM

Historically, the challenger sees movement after the VP pick/Convention, and debtates. Again, as the sitting President Obama should be leading at this point.

So, I am glad Obama is leading, because when Romney’s 4-8 point, on average, bump comes in 2 weeks, then we will see the movement to Romney.

And once Romney is the candidate, and gives an hour long speech outlining his proposals, that the media and people like you cant ignore and say he has no substance, then we will see the movement towards Romney.

And, you know what will stop the “attacks from working,” Romney counter-attacking when he is allowed to spend his campaign funds.

And you know how I know this? By looking at the history of campaigns against sitting presidents.

milcus on August 8, 2012 at 12:27 PM

Romney should be up 10 among likely voters nationally, anything else is not good news.

The negative ads will work doofus Romney people.

The gop is so freaking pathetic.

Running against a CATEGORY 5 Economic disaster in the White House and Romney isn’t ahead?

CAMPAIGN 2012

Obama and his team……bring a gun to the fight.

Romney and his team…..bring a feather to the fight (and complain that someone else is using real bullets, waaaaaaaaahaaahhhhaaaa).

We are so so hosed.

PappyD61 on August 8, 2012 at 12:40 PM

BREAKING NEWS FOR ROMNEY CAMPAIGN.

For the sake of the country and our kids and grandkids, if you CANNOT OR WILL NOT work your arses off to defeat this Obama disaster, then get the freaking crap off the stage and let SOMEONE, ANYONE that really wants to BEAT HIM have the nomination.

If Romney won’t do it……find someone else that will.

If Romney won’t do it……find someone else that will.

If Romney won’t do it……find someone else that will.

If Romney won’t do it……find someone else that will.

PappyD61 on August 8, 2012 at 12:44 PM

Obama’s America

Schadenfreude on August 8, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Romney should be up 10 among likely voters nationally, anything else is not good news.

The negative ads will work doofus Romney people.

The gop is so freaking pathetic.

Running against a CATEGORY 5 Economic disaster in the White House and Romney isn’t ahead?

CAMPAIGN 2012

Obama and his team……bring a gun to the fight.

Romney and his team…..bring a feather to the fight (and complain that someone else is using real bullets, waaaaaaaaahaaahhhhaaaa).

We are so so hosed.

PappyD61 on August 8, 2012 at 12:40 PM

Once and for all, Romney is not the candidate yet. How hard is that to understand?

He cant spend money on ads yet, he has no reason to lay out his policies, and for all intents and purposes his campaign has not even begun yet.

Can you give him a week as the actual candidate before freaking out.

This is a man who has been successful his whole life. He knows how to win (more than most of us), and we will see what he is made of in a few weeks.

milcus on August 8, 2012 at 12:50 PM

No sample breakdown and it’s REGISTERED VOTERS.

Anyone see a breakdown on how oversampled the Dem # is?

(Reuters) – Americans are increasingly pessimistic about the future but voters do not seem to be holding it against Democratic President Barack Obama, who slightly expanded his lead over Republican rival Mitt Romney this month, a new Reuters/Ipsos poll says.

Three months before the November 6 presidential election, nearly two-thirds of Americans think the country is moving in the wrong direction. Only 31 percent say it is moving in the right direction – the lowest number since December 2011.

But Obama’s lead over Romney among registered voters was 49 percent to 42 percent, up slightly from the 6-point advantage the president held a month earlier over the former Massachusetts governor.

The results of the monthly poll – in which a majority of voters agreed that the economy is the most important problem facing the United States – suggest that the Obama campaign’s efforts to paint Romney as being out of touch with the concerns of middle-class Americans could be preventing the Republican from gaining momentum in the race.

“The overall ‘right track, wrong track’ is worse than last month – the news hasn’t been great lately,” said Ipsos pollster Chris Jackson. “But Obama seems to be, to some extent, inoculated against some of the worst of that.”

The telephone poll of 1,168 adults, including 1,014 registered voters, was taken from August 2 to August 6. During that period, the Labor Department reported that U.S. employers hired the most workers in five months but that the nation’s jobless rate had risen to 8.3 percent from 8.2 percent.

Even so, in a reversal from July, registered voters thought Obama was stronger than Romney in dealing with jobs and the economy, and with tax issues.

The poll indicated that 46 percent of registered voters thought Obama was stronger on jobs and the economy, compared with 44 percent for Romney. And on tax matters, 49 percent saw Obama as stronger, compared with 38 percent for Romney.

In an advertising blitz that has been focused on a dozen politically divided states, Obama and his Democratic allies have been hammering Romney’s record as a private equity executive at Bain Capital, accusing him of plundering companies and shipping jobs overseas.

‘KITCHEN SINK’ STRATEGY

The Obama team’s ads also have questioned why Romney – who has an estimated fortune of up to $250 million – will not release more than two years of tax returns, and have suggested that Romney has paid far lower tax rates than most Americans.

“The Democrats’ current strategy of just pummeling Romney on Bain and on the economy has been kind of a kitchen sink thing,” Jackson said. “Even if it’s not necessarily hurt Romney, it’s given him no opportunity to build a lead.”

Obama’s new lead on the issue of jobs and the economy is particularly significant, Jackson said.

“That is the key issue in this race,” he said. “For Romney to be able to make a convincing argument and to win the election, he’s going to have to have a fairly significant lead over Obama on that measure.”

Jackson said Romney – who has based his campaign on the notion that he would be better than Obama at dealing with the economy – likely needs to have at least a 5- to 8-point lead over Obama on the jobs and economy issue to win the election.


“There’s certainly no case at the moment that Romney’s building some sort of momentum toward victory here,” Jackson said.

PappyD61 on August 8, 2012 at 12:51 PM

Once and for all, Romney is not the candidate yet. How hard is that to understand?

He cant spend money on ads yet, he has no reason to lay out his policies, and for all intents and purposes his campaign has not even begun yet.

Can you give him a week as the actual candidate before freaking out.

This is a man who has been successful his whole life. He knows how to win (more than most of us), and we will see what he is made of in a few weeks.

milcus on August 8, 2012 at 12:50 PM

Five words: John McCain “fight with me”.

PappyD61 on August 8, 2012 at 12:52 PM

What in hell is an “independent”? By the time you reach voting age you should have a well developed value system and only a fool or a psychopath would still be vacillating between the radical differences that separate Obama and Romney.

rplat on August 8, 2012 at 9:47 AM

Being an Independent doesn’t mean you don’t have a developed value system. As an Independent myself, I have a very strict value system which neither party fits in, actually. I believe strict Constitutional adherence. Both parties have shown time and time again they don’t give a da** about the Constitution or our Founders’ original intent, hence the mess we are today. No party gets a pass from me when they screw with the Constitution.

I essentially believe George Washington was right, political parties will be the death of this country.

Conservative Independent on August 8, 2012 at 12:57 PM

Why are we giving any time to polls right now?They are designed to discourage us. Meanwhile,I ,for one,and know I’m not alone,am not falling for it.

ohiobabe on August 8, 2012 at 9:39 AM

No ohoibabe, you are not alone. I have been saying the same thing for months. These polls are meaningless until after the republican convention.It is just hotair and the rest of the LSM stirring the pot (And HA does it while claiming they don’t like to do that).

woodNfish on August 8, 2012 at 1:01 PM

Let’s face it, Obama is successfully defining Romney now and no amount of ads in September and October are going to rehabilitate his image. I’ll be surprised if Romney can turn it around but it’s looking less and less likely.

RedRedRice on August 8, 2012 at 9:15 AM

THIS X 1000

While all the whining goes on about how “Mitt is bound by primary rules” and such the fact is that SuperPacs can be spending out the wazoo right now and the “defining” of Mitt is under way. Much like the Palin/Couric/Charlie Gibson weeks defined Palin so much so that an accomplished Governor from a resource rich was being asked to leave the ticket by some.

Mitt can spend money till he’s blue in the face but when you show Cancer Joe crying about his wife and the gop gets all “we can’t answer that, it’s beneath us” you have a receipe for another Obama win, and America being permanently screwed.

Get off your asses gop, and act like you want to win and save this country.

PappyD61 on August 8, 2012 at 1:02 PM

But on the bright side, Obama’s numbers are climbing with the dead, animals, illegal aliens and animated characters.

SGinNC on August 8, 2012 at 1:02 PM

The slimestream media and these woeful polls remind me of a funhouse mirror–they distort things out of all proportion. IMHO, this election will go according to voter turnout and who’s more motivated which we’ll find out in 90 days.

stukinIL4now on August 8, 2012 at 1:02 PM

Bad news, too, in the new Quinnipiac/NYT state polls in WI (which I’ve always said was out of play), Virginia and Colorado.

gumbyandpokey on August 8, 2012 at 9:03 AM

I think you confused yourself you lib troll. It is only bad news FOR YOU that the same poll you are referencing shows Romney beating your boy by 5 points in Colorado.

It makes me wonder why time after time you come on here and spread lies, half truths, and partial samples. I would think if you at Chicago headquarters were so confident, you would not have to be constantly putting up bad data points..

AirForceCane on August 8, 2012 at 2:00 PM

We can’t evaluate these results fully until we determine how well the modeling of the sample data matches that of the electorate in 2012.

Considering that their last poll oversampled Dems by+9…and that they will get more desperate as we approach election day, not less…here’s my evaluation of this one:

“It’s bulls!t.”

You’re welcome.

rvastar on August 8, 2012 at 2:07 PM

So we KNOW this poll has been skewed to Democrats in the past, this edition doesn’t include the crosstabs, and yet, it’s a cause for concern?

Sure, if you’re a complete drooling moron who lives and dies by every poll. For those of normal intelligence and mental health, not so much.

Adjoran on August 8, 2012 at 2:27 PM

LOL, I thought Romney was going to be basking in crucial indie and moderate love by now.

If his favorability has “plateaued”, forget about it.

ddrintn on August 8, 2012 at 8:54 AM

Oh, please. Romney hasn’t even started to campaign yet. Your grousing and pessimism are unwarranted and, frankly, unhelpful to saving our country.

idalily on August 8, 2012 at 2:58 PM

Let’s face it, Obama is successfully defining Romney now and no amount of ads in September and October are going to rehabilitate his image. I’ll be surprised if Romney can turn it around but it’s looking less and less likely.

RedRedRice on August 8, 2012 at 9:15 AM

Correct. If Romney can’t spend money yet then he finds another way to get his message out. You can be too far behind at half time.

ChrisL on August 8, 2012 at 3:01 PM

THIS X 1000

While all the whining goes on about how “Mitt is bound by primary rules” and such the fact is that SuperPacs can be spending out the wazoo right now and the “defining” of Mitt is under way. Much like the Palin/Couric/Charlie Gibson weeks defined Palin so much so that an accomplished Governor from a resource rich was being asked to leave the ticket by some.

Mitt can spend money till he’s blue in the face but when you show Cancer Joe crying about his wife and the gop gets all “we can’t answer that, it’s beneath us” you have a receipe for another Obama win, and America being permanently screwed.

Get off your asses gop, and act like you want to win and save this country.

PappyD61 on August 8, 2012 at 1:02 PM

Dude, which state are you in, the are plenty of posters here who confirmed that there are tonnes of ROmney Super PACs ads running currently in the states that count and where he is compettitive… I’m in Cali and I have yet to see a single campaign ad by either camp, here it doesn’t even feel like we are getting closer to the elections. But it makes sense then, right, nobody expects Romney to win Cali, so then why would they spend money putting ads here. same in the states where he’s winning clearly, why bother putting ads there…the only states where he needs to put ads is the swing states, and the states that are shown in the polls to be in play…and they do that, plenty..

jimver on August 8, 2012 at 3:34 PM

There are, that is….

jimver on August 8, 2012 at 3:34 PM

New Reuters poll..

Obama 49
Romney 42

daveyandgoliath on August 8, 2012 at 11:49 AM

Sorry, Art, but that Reuters “poll” doesn’t tell us their polling sample breakdown, and also has a huge margin of error of 7.6% for Independents.

The normal margin of error for reputable polling is less than half of that.

F-

Del Dolemonte on August 8, 2012 at 3:57 PM

Sorry, Art, but that Reuters “poll” doesn’t tell us their polling sample breakdown, and also has a huge margin of error of 7.6% for Independents.

The normal margin of error for reputable polling is less than half of that.

F-

Del Dolemonte on August 8, 2012 at 3:57 PM

LOL. It also doesn’t show Romney in the lead. Those are the only acceptable polls.

ddrintn on August 8, 2012 at 4:00 PM

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