Does Congress’ new funeral protest law help the troops?

posted at 2:01 pm on August 8, 2012 by Dustin Siggins

On Monday, President Obama signed the Honoring America’s Veterans and Caring for Camp Lejeune Families Act of 2012 into law. Among other things, the law puts specific restrictions into place for protestors at military funerals. From Huffington Post:

The new law will have strong implications for the Westboro Baptist Church, a Kansas-based organization…Westboro Baptist Church has drawn media attention for its brand of protest, which frequently links the deaths of soldiers to America’s growing acceptance of gays.

Under the new legislation, protests must be held at least 300 feet from military funerals and are prohibited two hours before or after a service. The law counters a 2011 Supreme Court ruling, which found that displays such as Westboro’s were protected under the First Amendment.

Jazz Shaw wrote about this over the weekend, and I agree with him that it’s mostly unconstitutional pandering instead of actual veteran-positive legislation:

Given how these cretins are pretty much universally despised, many of us might find this a bit of good cheer during the dog days of summer. Unfortunately, the legislation seems to have one major flaw…Dr. James Joyner weighs in, describing the bill as little more than pandering and an unfortunate incursion on first amendment rights.

Look, I hate these Westboro dirtbags as much as the next guy. Their message is vile and their targets innocent. But the Supreme Court has ruled that picketing funerals is protected by the First Amendment. It was an 8-1 ruling, with only Justice Alito dissenting.

While the 300 foot buffer zone is certainly permissible—indeed, the Westboro cretins observed a 1000 foot buffer in the case decided by the Supreme Court—the two hour window is almost surely not. So say that you can’t picket near a funeral while said funeral is going on is effectively ban it. And the Supreme Court has already said that the activity is protected by the Constitution.

I hate to say it, but this certainly does smell of pandering. There’s no easier path to public praise for politicians than to do something to support our military and veterans. (And rightly so.) But there’s a difference between doing something substantive to help them and just passing a bill which you know will get shot down just so you can look like you’re being tough on the protesters. If the government can regulate speech to the point where they can prevent you from showing up two hours before until two hours after an event, that would be a precedent which could very quickly get out of control.

In debating this with a buddy on Facebook last night, he brought up the point that the funerals are at least partially funded by the federal government, so why can’t the federal government dictate who can and cannot be near or at the funerals? While I think that’s a good discussion point, and one I hadn’t considered prior to the discussion, the First Amendment still applies here – and while these scumbags really are “cruisin’ for a bruisin’,” they are also still American citizens not calling for violence against their fellow human beings. As such, their First Amendment rights should be intact — local zoning laws notwithstanding, which is where such laws should be promulgated anyway.

As a side note, to take off from Jazz’s point, this part of the law really does seem mostly about pandering. One of the most frustrating things about working for Congress was how much self-praise went on in press releases and the like when authorizing military spending to provide pay, benefits, etc. for the troops. Nowhere else do people want credit for providing basic financial necessities (previously agreed upon, no less) to people who provide a service – you don’t see restaurant managers boasting about providing paychecks every week to employees, for example. They just provide the paycheck as recompense for work provided.

If Congress really wants to do some good for the American people, it could decide to actually run a war effectively, unlike what happened in Iraq and Afghanistan. Or it could take better care of our veterans through more funding and more effectively used funding, since many are coming back with PTSD, and suicide rates are at record-high levels. Also, large numbers of veterans are homeless, especially younger veterans, which is just terrible. Or it could simply decide not to sacrifice the troops in wars promoted purely for political purposes (such as Obama’s infusion of troops into Afghanistan, which I do believe was done to balance out criticisms from his left and right flanks).

This law does provide a series of expanded benefits to veterans, so Congress deserves credit for that, but by adding the section about protests it not only oversteps its boundaries but puts a dangerous precedent in place for protests.

Note: I spent eight years in the Army Reserves and National Guard, but never went overseas. As such, my opinion on this whole situation definitely lacks first-hand experience, especially since I have lost only one friend to service overseas and no protests were seen at his funeral. I decided to ask my friend Jeff Nader,a ten-year Army veteran who served one tour in Iraq and currently works as an air traffic controller at Otis Coast Guard Base on Cape Cod, his opinion on the law and its potential implications:

I think the timing of this law is suspicious, what with an election coming up. I think Obama and Congress are indeed pandering, and Obama especially because he wants support from people right-of-center. These are the people who typically pride themselves on being exceedingly pro-military. This gives him pro-military credentials in November.

I also think it could violate First Amendment rights.

I give the Westboro crowd credit, though – their legal people have correctly analyzed and followed the applicable laws. While some will always abuse freedoms, targeting small groups in ways that could eventually impact everyone is something we should be cautious of.

 


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Been to many TEA party rallies, have you? Or are you merely engaging in rectal speak?

As usual…

JohnGalt23 on May 24, 2013 at 1:46 PM

As I just posted HotairLib has their whole head up their six o clock.

hamradio on May 24, 2013 at 2:43 PM

Who wrote the speech? Or are you just praising the messenger?

mixplix on May 24, 2013 at 2:57 PM

MSNBC consensus: Obama’s speech was historic, amazing, “one of the best of his presidency”

Connect the dots: journolist meeting by invitation only at the White House on, what Tuesday?, “big”speech by Obama on Thursday, lame stream media fawning over speech on Friday. Who would have seen that coming, huh?

parke on May 24, 2013 at 2:58 PM

They need the “war on terror” in order to further erode our Constitutional freedoms and to deflect criticism from the administration’s and Federal government’s ongoing corruption.

They are just trying to massage it so that they don’t offend the Muslims, international Libtards and their own sensibilities anymore than necessary.

A few Muslim terrorists here and there are quite expendable to this Administration despite their sympathies for them. These drone attacks also do much deflect any potential criticism that the Administration is weak in dealing with such matters.

Dr. ZhivBlago on May 24, 2013 at 2:59 PM

MSNBC is nothing but a left wing propaganda machine serving their master, Obama.

rplat on May 24, 2013 at 3:07 PM

Nobel Peace Prize that he totally earned a mere nine months into his presidency? Yeah, that one.

I believe that he was officially nominated 10 days after he was sworn in. Wow! The WON really worked long hours that week and a half to earn that POS medal. During those ten days he ordered NO DRONE STRIKES to keep his peaceful record clean.

fred5678 on May 24, 2013 at 3:22 PM

Obama: Don’t worry about that Ben Ghazi guy. I killed Bin Laden, and Bush didn’t!

And Obummer still wants to close Gitmo? Good luck with that–not even Upchuck Schumer was willing to hold trials in New York!

Steve Z on May 24, 2013 at 3:24 PM

They need the “war on terror” in order to further erode our Constitutional freedoms and to deflect criticism from the administration’s and Federal government’s ongoing corruption.

They just changed the definition of terrorist. They used to be jihadis from the Middle East–now they’re Minutemen in Arizona and Tea Partiers in Ohio.

Steve Z on May 24, 2013 at 3:29 PM

…bromides about what we’re told are President Foreign Policy’s miraculous yet still oddly unmaterialized abilities to move us drastically closer to world peace.

Erika, sometimes your writing shows signs of rivaling even the Master of Snark himself, Allahpundit. Good work!

KS Rex on May 24, 2013 at 3:45 PM

I love how crazy Al invoked the Nobel Peace Prize in praise of a speech that spoke about dropping bombs on people’s head. Maybe it was the “fewer” bombs than before that raised this to historic levels.

Do they even know or care that they are morons.

marnes on May 24, 2013 at 3:46 PM

His speech made less sense than Bluto’s Animal House Speech and was far less entertaining. Nothing less than base rallying time. Never thought I would say this, but Code Pink was the best part.

DDay on May 24, 2013 at 4:01 PM

Sperling posted this at the Examiner on May 23 about this “historic speech of Obysmal’s:

During his foreign policy speech Thursday afternoon, President Obama warned that domestic terrorism would increase in the modern age of the Internet.

“[T]his threat is not new,” Obama said. “But technology and the Internet increase its frequency and lethality.”

Obama warned Americans that materials on the Internet could influence people to commit terrorist acts.

“Today, a person can consume hateful propaganda, commit themselves to a violent agenda and learn how to kill without leaving their home,” he said.

To combat domestic terrorism, Obama reminded Americans that it was important to reach out to Muslim communities.

“The best way to prevent violent extremism is to work with the Muslim American community — which has consistently rejected terrorism — to identify signs of radicalization and partner with law enforcement when an individual is drifting towards violence,” he said. “And these partnerships can only work when we recognize that Muslims are a fundamental part of the American family.”

You see, we are just not working hard enough to “work with the Muslim American community” who are a “fundamental part of the American family.” Watch out, too, because Obysmal is again trying to limit the impact of the Internet.

onlineanalyst on May 24, 2013 at 4:22 PM

That Chris Hayes is a bit of a twink, isn’t he?

onlineanalyst on May 24, 2013 at 4:25 PM

Obama apparently gave two speeches yesterday and I watched the other one.

myiq2xu on May 24, 2013 at 5:03 PM

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