Quotes of the day

posted at 10:43 pm on August 7, 2012 by Allahpundit

These days, you hear it everywhere — from Republican donors and veteran operatives, and at Capitol Hill watering holes. A few weeks ago, it was a wishful rumor floating in the Beltway ether. Now, sources close to the Romney campaign say it’s for real, that the taciturn former Massachusetts governor is quietly warming to the idea…

[B]ehind the scenes, Ryan’s stock has been steadily rising. Romney, a former Bain Capital consultant who relishes data and metrics, has clicked with the youthful Badger State wonk. They have campaigned together and speak frequently on the phone, comparing notes on policy and strategy. And earlier this year, with Ryan’s blessing, Romney hired three of Ryan’s Budget Committee advisers to help him in Boston…

Since [June], sources say, Ryan has slowly floated to the top of Romney’s vice-presidential shortlist. In conversations with senior advisers and donors — at the campaign’s summer retreat in Park City, Utah, and at his lakefront home in New Hampshire — Romney has repeatedly expressed his admiration for the Wisconsin lawmaker…

“If I had my druthers, I would hope Romney would pick one of the other options,” says Grover Norquist, the president of Americans for Tax Reform and a Ryan supporter. “The most important thing in the first year of a Romney administration would be a U-turn on the road to serfdom, and the way to do that is by passing the Ryan budget, which requires a major mover not just at the White House, but in Congress. It’d be easier to do that with Ryan in the House, since he has walked through it already with every Republican.”

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In the most simple of terms, you can break down Romney’s choices for VP into two categories. There are the safe but less-than-scintillating picks (Portman, Pawlenty) and there are the rock-star-but-riskier picks (Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie).

Ryan is the closest thing to a hybrid of those two categories. (You can make an argument here for Jindal but we tend to think Ryan trumps him on the “star” front.)

Ryan is someone who is well known and well liked by the party establishment, having served in Congress since 1998 and currently chairing the House Budget Committee.

At the same time, Ryan’s budget proposals over the last two years have turned him into a hero among national conservatives (and a villain among liberals, but more on that in the case against Ryan) and he is widely regarded as one of the major figures in the GOP.

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[P]utting Ryan on the ticket would ensure that the presidential race is a contest of ideas, not just personalities. In a country where conservatives outnumber liberals two-to-one and where President Obama is thought to be more likable than Mitt Romney by huge margins (+30 according to USA Today/Gallup, +38 in the Washington Post/ABC poll), this strikes us as a good idea.

Of course Democrats will demagogue the entitlement reform proposals in Ryan’s budget. But they’re going to do that anyway. Romney and Republicans already own those reforms—97 percent of congressional Republicans voted for them, and Romney has embraced them without much qualification. “I think it’d be marvelous if the Senate were to pick up Paul Ryan’s budget and adopt it and pass it along to the president,” he said in early April. In late March he declared: “I’m very supportive of the Ryan budget.”

If Ryan’s budget is going to be a central part of the debate over the next three months, who better to explain and defend it than Paul Ryan?

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Then comes governing…

There would inevitably be dissonance in Congress next year – even among Republicans and a Romney Administration. If push comes to shove over whether various initiatives do enough to reduce spending to satisfy the tea party – or if the GOP has to up the debt limit, no one will have more credibility in Republican ranks than Paul Ryan. If Romney stays in alignment with Ryan’s plan, the incipient president can dispatch Ryan himself to Capitol Hill to whip recalcitrant members. After all, most of them all voted for Ryan’s budget twice. Romney-Ryan wouldn’t necessarily be asking them to deviate from their track record…

The nation’s problems are fiscal. Managing a tea party-driven House Republican Conference is already a challenge to Republican leaders. If Mitt Romney’s calculus is the same, he could very well tap Paul Ryan to be his running mate.

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But among non-political junkies, Ryan is hardly known at all. He’s viewed as just another member of Congress, a politically unpopular institution. Moreover, picking him would allow Obama to make the election a referendum over protecting the social safety net.

A disproportionate number of the undecided voters, according to polls and focus groups, are disaffected people who disapprove of Obama’s job performance but rely on government entitlements that Democrats vigorously defend. They don’t know much about the “Ryan budget” but they worry Republicans could take away their benefits. They’re inclined to vote Obama out of office, but a Romney-Ryan ticket could worry them enough that they’d vote for the devil they know.

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Should [Romney pick Ryan], the Ryan plan would immediately become a far bigger part of the Romney campaign that it is now — it would, in fact, move to the top of the Romney agenda.

That’s something that unnerves a number of Republicans. They respect Ryan and the work he has done, but they worry that putting him on the presidential ticket would brand the Republican party as the party of austerity at a time when more voters are more concerned about job creation than budget cutting.

Of course, Democrats are going to bash Romney on spending cuts and Medicare reform regardless of what he does. Since that is inevitable, say Ryan supporters, why not put the plan’s most articulate defender, Paul Ryan himself, on the ticket? One reason would be that Mitt Romney has shown no inclination to make the Ryan plan the centerpiece of his campaign. Perhaps that’s what he’s planning — perhaps he planned all along to run on jobs until mid-August, only to pivot to entitlement reform for the rest of the campaign. But that’s not likely.

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As speculation over whom Mitt Romney might choose as a running mate reaches a fever pitch, one of the Republicans rumored to be on the short list — Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan — is going on vacation.

Ryan told reporters here that he is taking his family to Colorado, beginning Saturday, for a weeklong trip during the summer congressional recess…

Meanwhile, speculation has grown surrounding just when Romney will name his No. 2 has grown; some believe it could come as early as this week. That, presumably, would take Ryan out of the equation if he maintains his current schedule and heads to Colorado.

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Bmore on August 8, 2012 at 2:39 AM

I saw your earlier question, if anyone called Dire Straits a name it would have been ddrintn being his usual self. Dire called him a kook, very apt. When all is said and done I think unseen took the decision of Gov. Palin not to run better than ddrintn.

Cindy Munford on August 8, 2012 at 3:00 AM

Bmore on August 8, 2012 at 2:56 AM

Aw, B. Sorry about the fish. :(

25 years? I had no idea they lived so long. BTW, that feeding video was a trip.

4Grace on August 8, 2012 at 3:01 AM

Well.. I bid you all a goodnight. It was a pleasure, as always. Sleep well. See you soon.

thatsafactjack on August 8, 2012 at 3:02 AM

Cindy Munford on August 8, 2012 at 3:00 AM

I thought that may have been who it was. Dire and that one don’t play well together. ; ) I can’t imagine not playing well with Dire. He’s a good friend.

Bmore on August 8, 2012 at 3:03 AM

4Grace on August 8, 2012 at 2:56 AM

I actually think they have put up with more now than in the past. Maybe it is a Townhall policy. I do admit that I love watching them fall apart, very childish of me. I hate when I miss it.

Cindy Munford on August 8, 2012 at 3:03 AM

Good Night Jackie, Pleasant Dreams.

Bmore on August 8, 2012 at 3:03 AM

PS…VERY sorry about your koi, B. I had 13 of them in California and had to donate them to a religious retreat when I left so that they would have a good home. Now people meditate while feeding my fish. They were beautiful.. and I know what you mean about how they recognize you, too. I still miss them.

thatsafactjack on August 8, 2012 at 3:04 AM

When all is said and done I think unseen took the decision of Gov. Palin not to run better than ddrintn.

Cindy Munford on August 8, 2012 at 3:00 AM

I don’t mean to laugh, but that is the understatement of the day.

4Grace on August 8, 2012 at 3:05 AM

Bmore on August 8, 2012 at 3:03 AM

Well, Dire has his own way to disagree. Nicely but doesn’t leave any doubt. Everyone is just saying what they think, I doubt minds are ever changed.

Cindy Munford on August 8, 2012 at 3:05 AM

I guess I’d better crash too. Another 16 hour day starting in just a few hours from now. Good Grief. Coffee!!!

Good Night All.

Bmore on August 8, 2012 at 3:06 AM

Bolero

thatsafactjack on August 8, 2012 at 2:59 AM

Always liked that song. Passionate.

4Grace on August 8, 2012 at 3:06 AM

thatsafactjack on August 8, 2012 at 3:02 AM

Take care, I hope the fires stay far far away. Actually I hope they disappear.

Cindy Munford on August 8, 2012 at 3:06 AM

4Grace on August 8, 2012 at 3:05 AM

It’s so sad.

Cindy Munford on August 8, 2012 at 3:07 AM

Night, Jackie!

4Grace on August 8, 2012 at 3:07 AM

Goodnight, Bmore. Get some restful sleep. :)

4Grace on August 8, 2012 at 3:10 AM

Bmore on August 8, 2012 at 2:56 AM

I noticed our neighbors in Florida were getting a lot of visits in their back yard by Hawks and Egrets, which was pretty odd behavior. Turns out they have a Koi pond.

Cindy Munford on August 8, 2012 at 3:11 AM

Well, I can’t fight the sandman any longer.

Goodnight, Cindy. Kiss the puppehs. :)

Night, all.

4Grace on August 8, 2012 at 3:13 AM

Oh look Joss Whedon is doing Avengers 2. Hopefully Marvel took him at his anti capitalist word and didn’t give him a lot of money, I mean how much would having a Brinks truck backed up crush poor Joss’
idealism?

Betenoire on August 8, 2012 at 3:19 AM

So keep Ryan in the House already — and pick a boring ex-governor with 10 years experience who comes from the state everybody is talking about with a 1-3% unemployment rate –>> North Dakota.

Pick ex-governor Senator John Hoeven of ND for VP.

KenInIL on August 8, 2012 at 3:50 AM

I gotta say it, Paul Ryan is a good looking man. And I also have to admit, that seems to matter with elections for some reason (Scott Brown.) Lame way to win but I’ll take it.

Leftist hysterics use to trip over their own tongues posting about his (alleged) Ayn Rand fandom. If that’s even a rumor, I’ll take that, too.

Dirt McGirt on August 8, 2012 at 3:56 AM

Dem higher math, 800,000 = 1,760,000

Gohawgs on August 8, 2012 at 4:33 AM

I would love to see Dick Cheney explain why he thinks Paul Ryan is qualified to be vice-president.

promachus on August 8, 2012 at 5:06 AM

I would love to see Dick Cheney explain why he thinks Paul Ryan is qualified to be vice-president.

promachus on August 8, 2012 at 5:06 AM

7 term Congressman who hasn’t shied away from ideas that others in his party have run from as fast as possible because it might be unpopular (Road map anyone)and while his support of TARP isn’t going to go down as his finest moment he has had more than enough on the other side where he was willing to take an unpopular and principled conservative stand.

I get you have anger at Cheney for his comments but you the one looking like a fool isn’t Cheney when you suggest Ryan lacks qualifications for the office.

Betenoire on August 8, 2012 at 5:21 AM

Yeah, because Robert Costas and Bill Kristol are soooo close to the Romney campaign, having broken so many scoops with insider info so far in the campaign that – what? You say they haven’t? NONE of them has EVER scooped on something to do with Romney?

Good point! That would mean they are just speculating, or parroting what they are being fed. It could be a trial balloon, or an attempt to make a bigger splash with a surprise pick instead, or even just keeping the gossip mill churning and interest increasing.

But they don’t know any more than any of us right now. They’re being played to get out the message Romney wants out at the moment.

Adjoran on August 8, 2012 at 5:22 AM

Betenoire on August 8, 2012 at 5:21 AM

Oopsie, so a congressman who has never won a statewide office or held an executive office is suddenly qualified huh? Must say I love the standards within GOP. They are whatever the GOP establishment decides them to be.

promachus on August 8, 2012 at 5:31 AM

Adjoran on August 8, 2012 at 5:22 AM

I think so too. Ryan and Rubio must be getting desperate using their surrogates to drum up the pressure.

promachus on August 8, 2012 at 5:33 AM

good morning folks :)

cmsinaz on August 8, 2012 at 5:55 AM

talking polls again showing dear leader in the lead in CO on morning joe…

cmsinaz on August 8, 2012 at 6:06 AM

showing favoribility polls in a good light for dear leader via wapo…how skewed are they, i tell ya…

cmsinaz on August 8, 2012 at 6:10 AM

showing favoribility polls in a good light for dear leader via wapo…how skewed are they, i tell ya…

cmsinaz on August 8, 2012 at 6:10 AM

Liberals don’t skew. They ‘correct’ for the inherent racism of America.

Liam on August 8, 2012 at 6:22 AM

Gee,

Mormonism #1 topic on Morning Joe this a.m.
Joe, Mika, Andrea Mitchell (NBC News), Michael Steele, all agree.

Huh. Go figure.

aquaviva on August 8, 2012 at 6:23 AM

Liam on August 8, 2012 at 6:22 AM

ahhhhhh, :)

cmsinaz on August 8, 2012 at 6:25 AM

Gee,

Mormonism #1 topic on Morning Joe this a.m.
Joe, Mika, Andrea Mitchell (NBC News), Michael Steele, all agree.

Huh. Go figure.

aquaviva on August 8, 2012 at 6:23 AM

Seems, then, the liblet haters are giving the Catholics a break for now.

Liam on August 8, 2012 at 6:28 AM

If the Mormons and Catholics don’t let NAMBLA march in their parades, while the gays invariably let those queer pedophiles march, then it’s obvious all gays are pedophiles.

Liam on August 8, 2012 at 6:36 AM

talking polls again showing dear leader in the lead in CO on morning joe…

cmsinaz on August 8, 2012 at 6:06 AM

PPP has Barry up 6, but Rasmussen had Romney tied with Barry and
CBS/NYT/Quinnipia has Barry at 45 and Romney 50.

Why even give any publicity to MSNBC when nobody even watch that network?

bayview on August 8, 2012 at 6:45 AM

Eliminate the negative. My take.

kingsjester on August 8, 2012 at 6:49 AM

CBS/NYT/Quinnipiac

Virginia: Obama 49, Romney 45 Obama +4
Colorado: Obama 45, Romney 50 Romney +5
Wisconsin: Obama 51, Romney 45 Obama +6

Sample’s party breakdown is

CO
R 32 D 27 I 37
R +5

VA
R 23 D 30 I 40
D +7

WI
R 27 D 34 I 33
D +7

Basically, the poll says it is very close in akk 3 states.

bayview on August 8, 2012 at 6:57 AM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/reid-and-romneys-sleazy-rhetoric-on-taxes/2012/08/07/e2f1896c-e0b7-11e1-a421-8bf0f0e5aa11_story.html?hpid=z5

It is unbelievable. The editorial bleated “Reid and Romney’s sleazy rhetoric” and the sleaze is essentially all from Reid, and the editorial did not come up with anything to support its contention that the sleaze is from both Reid AND Romney.

bayview on August 8, 2012 at 7:13 AM

Ryan would be the perfect choice, IMHO. He and Mitt think along the very same lines and would make a terrific team. This election is about improving the economy through reduced regulation, government spending, tax and entitlement reform. The selection of Paul Ryan would not only send that unmistakeable message to the electorate but would also provide some key electoral advantages in a state (WI) which would irretrievably sink PBHO’s chances.

MJBrutus on August 8, 2012 at 7:14 AM

There are few upsides to having Paul Ryan on the ticket: a bit of gravitas on budgeting and someone with some sway in the House that will last a matter of months until normal House work takes him out of the interaction system there.

The downsides are not having someone on the ground to actually GET a FY 2013 budget (to start the rollback process of the Obama expansion) and then dovetailing the 2014 budget to that so that deeper cuts can be made sooner.

Romney as President only has to let it be known that he backs Ryan’s current plans, backs a real FY13 budget, and if a revised FY13 and FY14 budget get to his desk they are signed and in-place. That gives Ryan a hammer to get things moving in the House… leaving him off the ticket makes it seem as if D’s are just saying that his is the ONLY plan that is associated with R’s and ‘see they put him on the ticket, it is true!’ Romney is going to have a tough enough time defending himself and his own ideas without having to defend Ryan’s (which are in DC, after all, not at a State level) and any baggage Ryan brings also comes to the campaign. After an election Romney can give a go-ahead to Ryan’s plan… during it a bit of distance helps immensely.

That is just good, tactical politics and leaving effective people where they are effective. Romney is supposed to be an Executive and understand this concept. Why he would suddenly forget it in a campaign like this is beyond me.

ajacksonian on August 8, 2012 at 7:19 AM

CO
R 32 D 27 I 37
R +5

In one of the best Dem states in 2010, where the Dem governor and Senator won? Sure, believe it.

libfreeordie on August 8, 2012 at 7:28 AM

Paul Ryan is a one man death panel for Romney in Florida if …..

……..the Romney camp isn’t going to DEFEND RYAN against the Medicare “throw Granny over the cliff” crapola attack ads that are already fired up.

Given the choices I hope it’s Ryan but my inner cynic says we’re stuck with Portman or TPaw or some squish.

PappyD61 on August 8, 2012 at 7:32 AM

moaning joes advice to mitt. talk about the 3 M’s
1. Mormonism
2. Money
3. Massachusets

don’t run away from it says joe. runs toward it.

renalin on August 8, 2012 at 7:37 AM

Romney needs a Conservative VP, not from the Northeast. Period.

kingsjester on August 8, 2012 at 7:38 AM

Moaning Joe signaling LOUD and CLEAR which VP pick scares them.

The one they won’t mention: Marco Rubio. Schmoe has always been hysterically jealous of/hated Rubio.

Marcus on August 8, 2012 at 7:43 AM

Keep an eye on Dave Heineman of Nebraska as the dark horse.

Lawdawg86 on August 8, 2012 at 8:28 AM

Keep an eye on Dave Heineman of Nebraska as the dark horse.

Lawdawg86 on August 8, 2012 at 8:28 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Heineman

Interesting…

Fallon on August 8, 2012 at 9:05 AM

no guts no glory

Rubio – is the answer

ArthurMachado on August 8, 2012 at 9:19 AM

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