Petraeus for VP — Obama’s nightmare?

posted at 12:36 pm on August 7, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

This one’s getting the siren treatment from Drudge.  Is Barack Obama worried that Mitt Romney may ask General David Petraeus — the hero of the Iraq surge strategy — to be his running mate? One of Obama’s donors says that’s what he heard — from the President himself:

President Obama whispered to a top fundraiser this week that he believes GOP presidential hopeful Mitt Romney wants to name Gen. David Petraeus to the VP slot!

“The president wasn’t joking,” the insider explains to the DRUDGE REPORT. …

Romney is believed to have secretly met with the four-star general in New Hampshire.

The pick could be a shrewd Romney choice. A cross-party pull. The Obama administration hailed Petraeus as one of history’s greatest military strategists. Petraeus was unanimously confirmed as the Director of the CIA by the US Senate 94-0.

Petraeus has steadfastly insisted for years that he has no political ambitions — and so far, he’s acted that way, too.  When his time came to come home, Petraeus could have opted to retire to the speaking circuit, building money and credibility for a run at political office.  Instead, he chose to accept an appointment to run the CIA, replacing Leon Panetta’s largely successful tenure when Panetta went to Defense.

Even if Petraeus had an interest in pursuing the post, he’d have to resign as CIA director to do so.  That’s not a two-week notice kind of job.  It would take months to get someone with Petraeus’ expertise in place, and also confirmed by the Senate.  If Romney had an interest in Petraeus, and Petraeus had an interest in the job, he would have had to resign in May or June at the latest to resolve the practical difficulties of changing leadership in a time of war.  I doubt that a man like Petraeus would leave his post without being properly relieved, especially in a time of low-grade war against terrorist networks, and even more especially to run against the man who appointed him to the slot.

This seems like battleground-shaping to me, a way that Team Obama can make the eventual Veepstakes winner — whomever he/she might be — look a little less serious in comparison.  Still, it’s an intriguing thought, although I think Jon Gabriel sums up the significance pretty well:

I’m not blaming Drudge for running with this story.  If I got that kind of a tip from a major Obama donor (or Romney donor, too), you can bet I’d share it.  I would be just as skeptical as I am now, though.


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beside, YOU’RE the fool if you think Petraeus would be a good VP pick!

Pragmatic on August 7, 2012 at 4:42 PM

Hey sweet twit:

….why so touchy?

Pragmatic on August 7, 2012 at 4:42 PM

Step on your wanker…again?

cozmo on August 7, 2012 at 4:54 PM

If you serve or the Obama administration in any capacity, you are tainted with the stain of a totalitarian.

Tripwhipper on August 7, 2012 at 4:55 PM

what’s your point? I know a few folks who have become successful by working hard and earning their way….maybe obama isn’t one of them but you argument is a bit suspect

Pragmatic on August 7, 2012 at 4:40 PM

Typical retort from the extreme left. “Obama could have made it on his own. It’s possible in this land of opportunity”….well, Romney could have lived on his fortunes for ten years without working. He paid no income taxes because he didn’t work for ten years. How come you lefties aren’t talking about the taxes he paid on the dividends he was living off for the past ten years? The truth is that Obama is using this red herring to keep peoples’ eyes off Obama’s dismal record as President. As long as Obama has the MSM focused on Romney’s taxes, they’re not looking at his failed record. It’s all politics and you don’t even know that Obama is pulling the wool over your eyes. I have one good thing going for me. I know my Romney vote will cancel out your Obama vote.

timberline on August 7, 2012 at 5:00 PM

Speaking of trolls…at least VorDaj has left the discussion.

rduke305 on August 7, 2012 at 5:04 PM

Would you be kind enough to elaborate?

cozmo on August 7, 2012 at 2:02 PM

He’s referencing a Marcus Tullius Cicero quote. Try googling ‘cicero traitor plague’.

In short, he is calling Petraeus a traitor. Which he could very well be. He is most certainly a dhimmi, and his COIN nonsense resulted in lots of unnecessary deaths of our service people.

You know, Hearts and Minds BS. And ultra restrictive ROE’s.

PakviRoti on August 7, 2012 at 5:10 PM

Marcus Tullius Cicero

“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.”

So tell me, whom does this describe?

PakviRoti on August 7, 2012 at 5:12 PM

Marcus Tullius Cicero

“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.”

So tell me, whom does this describe?

PakviRoti on August 7, 2012 at 5:12 PM

gumbyandpokey

timberline on August 7, 2012 at 5:19 PM

He’s referencing a Marcus Tullius Cicero quote. Try googling ‘cicero traitor plague’.

PakviRoti on August 7, 2012 at 5:10 PM

No, really? Who’d ah thunk it?

Okay Sherlock, since you know your traitor references, how ’bout some facts to back it up?

Something with a little more meat than Hilary’s “Betrayus” quip.

cozmo on August 7, 2012 at 5:21 PM

I guess its true then. We don’t know enough about him. How can he be one of ours then?

Bmore on August 7, 2012 at 5:21 PM

gumbyandpokey

timberline on August 7, 2012 at 5:19 PM

I was thinking pragmatic, or vayjay, dayday…whatever that nutball’s handle is.

cozmo on August 7, 2012 at 5:23 PM

Not really, no … which I find commendable.

Ed Morrissey on August 7, 2012 at 1:02 PM

For what it is worth Ed, the people I’ve met who knew him in Cornwall, NY and the people at the Academy who met him seemed to think he was a moderate. NO discussion of specific political positions though. Sounds like he has been careful.

KW64 on August 7, 2012 at 5:25 PM

I guess its true then. We don’t know enough about him. How can he be one of ours then?

Bmore on August 7, 2012 at 5:21 PM

Very true. But all the evidence is that he served his country with honor and integrity. For low intelligence nutballs to attack with out warrant is uncalled for.

And beneath contempt.

cozmo on August 7, 2012 at 5:25 PM

No, really? Who’d ah thunk it?

Okay Sherlock, since you know your traitor references, how ’bout some facts to back it up?

Something with a little more meat than Hilary’s “Betrayus” quip.

cozmo on August 7, 2012 at 5:21 PM

You really are an odious little turd, your mamma is calling you.

I, didn’t say he was definitively a traitor, I did allow that he could be. But, like all OLT’s, you have a penchant for non sequitur’s and twisting people words while you wank away on these boards.

How is it you manage to find your way here when you lack the intelligence to even discern an oblique reference to a Cicero quote?

PakviRoti on August 7, 2012 at 5:35 PM

How is it you manage to find your way here when you lack the intelligence to even discern an oblique reference to a Cicero quote?

PakviRoti on August 7, 2012 at 5:35 PM

Well sweetie, if had the comprehension to follow the thread, you would have noticed the particularly vile nutball was asked repeated to back up his claims.

He wouldn’t. Instead, he grew ever more desperate in his attacks before he fled like a liberal.

Are you here to take up his cause?

If so, would you care to substantiate his claims, or, as you have shown so far, just make further unsubstantiated goofy claims.

Ball is in your court sweet cheeks.

cozmo on August 7, 2012 at 5:42 PM

Are you here to take up his cause?

If so, would you care to substantiate his claims, or, as you have shown so far, just make further unsubstantiated goofy claims.

Ball is in your court sweet cheeks.

cozmo on August 7, 2012 at 5:42 PM

Take up his cause? Heavens no. I’m having more fun watching your antics. You’re quite the putz, aren’t you?

One wonders what brings you here, did things get too tough for you at hobbytalk.com? Seriously, you cannot even hold your own in Science Fiction Modeling, you expect to spar here. Good luck chicken choker.

PakviRoti on August 7, 2012 at 5:49 PM

I disagree with your assumption that the CIA could not operate without its top man for a while. All bureaucracies (even the CIA) have a vital life component that marches on and on without a head. It’s the beauty (and danger) of a bureaucracy. Heck by your logic even replacing an incumbent presidency is dangerous since the newbie has to learn the ropes. They have enough qualified deputies at CIA to run the place, trust me.

stop2think on August 7, 2012 at 5:55 PM

PakviRoti on August 7, 2012 at 5:49 PM

Aw sweetum’s ya’ got me. I come here for self flagellation from kings of putdowns like you bile spewing nutballs.

cozmo on August 7, 2012 at 5:57 PM

Take up his cause? Heavens no. I’m having more fun watching your antics. You’re quite the putz, aren’t you?

PakviRoti on August 7, 2012 at 5:49 PM

In other words, you have nothing to substantiate your attacks on a man who served his country.

You just want to spew bile…got it.

cozmo on August 7, 2012 at 6:00 PM

cozmo on August 7, 2012 at 5:25 PM

Oh I agree, regardless of his political slant, he has served with honor and distinction.

Bmore on August 7, 2012 at 6:01 PM

cozmo on August 7, 2012 at 6:00 PM

I take it you and the one you are talking to have a history?

Bmore on August 7, 2012 at 6:03 PM

I take it you and the one you are talking to have a history?

Bmore on August 7, 2012 at 6:03 PM

Never heard of this particular nutball. If we do, its news to me. I am registered there. Haven’t been in a while though. unlike cowardly nutballs, I keep the same handle and don’t hide.

cozmo on August 7, 2012 at 6:06 PM

I wonder if Petraeus looked into Obama when he was CIA director, specifically Barry Soetoro’s university experience and his life in Indonesia.

Philly on August 7, 2012 at 6:10 PM

There are plenty of Military men/women that would make a great Romney VP; but Petraeus isn’t one of them. Col. Allen West would be a great VP and then President in 2020.

aposematic on August 7, 2012 at 6:40 PM

MB4

hawkdriver on August 7, 2012 at 6:40 PM

Tomorrow on Drudge;
Romney is looking at Palin, and an Obama spokesman’s brother’s nephew swears Obama is scared down to his Muslim bones.
Romney/Palin 2012!
Talk about a gamechanger! now…let’s get this thread over 1,000 and make some noise…who’s with me?

greataunty on August 7, 2012 at 6:47 PM

…let’s get this thread over 1,000 and make some noise…who’s with me?

greataunty on August 7, 2012 at 6:47 PM

So soon after the last one?

Those are tiring. So many nutballs to keep track of.

cozmo on August 7, 2012 at 6:53 PM

hawkdriver on August 7, 2012 at 6:40 PM

Ohhhhh……………

Bmore on August 7, 2012 at 6:54 PM

Maybe we should do this VP selection like the NFL Draft?

In the first round, President Obama selects…”Hillary Clinton” as his VP running mate!

*ooooohhhhhhhh!!!!!*

In the first round, the Libertarian Candidate Gary Johnson….wait..what’s this? *whisper whisper* Gary Johnson has decided to do a trade with Mitt Romney.

Mitt Romney will give up his 1st round VP draft pick in 2016 to Gary Johnson and in return Gary Johnson will drop out of the 2012 presidential race.

In the first round, former Governor Mitt Romney selects…
“One direction boy band” as his VP Running mate!

And the audience is stunned and dismayed at the breathtakingly bizarre pick!

Varchild on August 7, 2012 at 6:57 PM

Speaking of trolls…at least VorDaj has left the discussion.

rduke305 on August 7, 2012 at 5:04 PM

What discussion was that? I prosecuted Petraeus with facts and logic and daylight and his supporters could only call names and make red haired threats like the worst of the leftists in response. That’s not really a discussion.

VorDaj on August 7, 2012 at 7:15 PM

I prosecuted Petraeus with facts and logic and daylight …

VorDaj on August 7, 2012 at 7:15 PM

Innuendo, obfuscation and deflection are the tools you used trolled with. And you aren’t very good with them.

cozmo on August 7, 2012 at 7:20 PM

Give COIN just a little more decades of time
And the Muslim’s love for freedom will surely grow
Give COIN just a little more decades of time
And the Muslim’s love for freedom will surely grow
Ever leaving Afghanistan would be a big mistake
Let’s think of how wonderful Islam can be and hesitate
Almost broke and the troops as tired as they may be
But there’s no need for America to act in it’s own interest selfishly

If we part Afghanistan, Holy Koran Petraues won’t forget it
Years from now he’ll surely make us regret it
You don’t understand how wonderful Islam could be and you’re in a hurry
They’re not eager to reject Sharia but, by Allah, don’t you worry
COIN will win their wonderful hearts and minds and then they’ll want the American way of life
But these things don’t come overnight
Don’t give up ‘cos Afghan progress has been oh sooooooooo slow
We’re surly gonna win their Hearts and Minds if we just even more with Petraeus bowing and scraping to them go

Cheshire Cat on August 7, 2012 at 7:26 PM

Cheshire Cat on August 7, 2012 at 7:26 PM

Good one. ; )

Bmore on August 7, 2012 at 7:28 PM

Innuendo, obfuscation and deflection are the tools you used trolled with. And you aren’t very good with them.

cozmo on August 7, 2012 at 7:20 PM

There are three kinds of intelligence: one kind understands things for itself, the other appreciates what others can understand, the third understands neither for itself nor through others. This first kind is excellent, the second good, and the third (the cozmo kind) kind useless.

FeralCat on August 7, 2012 at 7:30 PM

FeralCat on August 7, 2012 at 7:30 PM

Sure sweetheart, you stick with that.

What’s with all the libiot noobs?

cozmo on August 7, 2012 at 7:37 PM

MB4

hawkdriver on August 7, 2012 at 6:40 PM

Having flashbacks I see. Flashbacks generally fall into one of two categories: hallucination and nostalgia.

Sigmund on August 7, 2012 at 7:40 PM

MB4

hawkdriver on August 7, 2012 at 6:40 PM

Having flashbacks I see. Flashbacks generally fall into one of two categories: hallucination and nostalgia.

Sigmund on August 7, 2012 at 7:40 PM

What’s wonderful about flashbacks are the folks who understand exactly what is being inferred and who have a vested interest in commenting about it.

hawkdriver on August 7, 2012 at 7:42 PM

There are plenty of Military men/women that would make a great Romney VP; but Petraeus isn’t one of them. Col. Allen West would be a great VP and then President in 2020.

aposematic on August 7, 2012 at 6:40 PM

It certainly can be accurately stated that the views on Islam of these two men are polar opposites – 180 degrees apart – or 3200 mils out, if you prefer.

FeralCat on August 7, 2012 at 7:45 PM

What’s wonderful about flashbacks are the folks who understand exactly what is being inferred and who have a vested interest in commenting about it.

hawkdriver on August 7, 2012 at 7:42 PM

It is still a partially free country so it is your right to self-diagnose as we have not completely submitted to Islam, at least not yet, but it is my duty to advise against it.

Sigmund on August 7, 2012 at 7:50 PM

Vordaj…you’re still here? You said you pursued facts and logic? Please proceed with facts and logic(with citations)other than your bilious bloviations…”Turkey trots to water…where is…rpt…where is…task force 34…the world wonders”

rduke305 on August 7, 2012 at 7:51 PM

A Glick in time saves nine.

One of my pet peeves with the US military, that I raise every time I find myself speaking to US military officers, is that they bowed to Arab pressure and wiped Israel off the Middle East map. This they did a number of years ago, when they decided that Israel would be attached to the US military’s European Command while every single Arab state is located in Central Command.

This articifial removal of Israel from the purview of Central Command has bred generations of US military commanders who due to the inherent distortion of their organization, almost necessarily emerge as hostile to Israel after they serve for any significant length of time in Central Command.

In my mind, one of Israel’s top priorities should be to demand that the US military place Israel back in Central Command to end this vile, unfair situation that works to the detriment of the strategic coherence of the US military and of course to the detriment of Israel.

With this introduction, I commend to everyone, Andy McCarthy’s authoritative and important analysis of Gen. David Petreaus’s hostility towards Israel. I have basically ignored the controversy regarding his remarks and particularly, Max Boot’s attack on Diana West for calling Petreaus to task for his unfair, incorrect and indeed libellous statements about Israel’s responsibility for Arab violence. And I am sorry for dong so. I received an email from Diana asking me to weigh in on the the issue but I just didn’t have the time or energy to do so. Maybe I was hoping that Petreaus was telling the truth when he tried to weasel out of responsibility for his untoward attack on Israel during his Senate testimony. At any rate, as Andy makes clear, Max was wrong to defend Petreaus and attack West and I am glad he took the time to call Max out for what he did.

FeralCat on August 7, 2012 at 7:58 PM

One of Petraeus’s mentors was Stephen Walt, an open admirer of Hitler. He and much of the top brass perceive the IDF as “baby killers, and cite The Goldstone Report to prove it. Admiral Mullen who was raised by a Hollywood talent agent who hated many of his Jewish clients for their supposed cheapness also holds deeply negative views of Israel blaming Israel for its murder of the U.S. Sailors serving on the U.S.S. Liberty. So Obama risks losing his soldiers if he doesn’t crack down on a country known within The State Dept. as “Semitism Gone Wild”.

FeralCat on August 7, 2012 at 8:05 PM

hawkdriver on August 7, 2012 at 7:42 PM

It is still a partially free country so it is your right to self-diagnose as we have not completely submitted to Islam, at least not yet, but it is my duty to advise against it.

Sigmund on August 7, 2012 at 7:50 PM

I don’t care what you do. I don’t disagree with everything you purport with your socks. That you need so many conduits to accomplish it is rather creepy.

hawkdriver on August 7, 2012 at 8:06 PM

I don’t care what you do. I don’t disagree with everything you purport with your socks. That you need so many conduits to accomplish it is rather creepy.

hawkdriver on August 7, 2012 at 8:06 PM

You never heard of combined arms?

FeralCat on August 7, 2012 at 8:12 PM

I know what you are thinking.

FeralCat on August 7, 2012 at 8:13 PM

I know what you are thinking.

FeralCat on August 7, 2012 at 8:13 PM

That you are a not very good noob troll?

cozmo on August 7, 2012 at 8:14 PM

Just out of curiosity, does anyone actually know anything about GEN Petraeus’ politics? Does the guy even consider himself a Republican?

Mahna Mahna on August 7, 2012 at 12:43 PM

Since the age of seventeen or eighteen, Petraeus has been schooled, housed, fed, hospitalized, employed and paid by the federal government – and his family, too, except for the ‘employed’ part. I don’t know what his politics are, but his experience is all with Big Government.

PersonFromPorlock on August 7, 2012 at 8:48 PM

hawkdriver on August 7, 2012 at 8:06 PM

Lol! We both have sock collections going. Funny! Why are they so dishonest as to not be able to comment with just one nom? Kinda answered my own question there, Eh? ; )

Bmore on August 7, 2012 at 8:53 PM

…dishonest…

Bmore on August 7, 2012 at 8:53 PM

Lawbreakers, is breaking Godwin’s law a misdemeanor, or felony?

cozmo on August 7, 2012 at 9:02 PM

hawkdriver on August 7, 2012 at 8:06 PM

Lol! We both have sock collections going. Funny! Why are they so dishonest as to not be able to comment with just one nom? Kinda answered my own question there, Eh? ; )

Bmore on August 7, 2012 at 8:53 PM

They think they’re clever.

hawkdriver on August 7, 2012 at 9:02 PM

Lawbreakers, is breaking Godwin’s law a misdemeanor, or felony?

cozmo on August 7, 2012 at 9:02 PM

Lol! Good point. ; )

Bmore on August 7, 2012 at 9:43 PM

They think they’re clever.

hawkdriver on August 7, 2012 at 9:02 PM

Sink me, but if you are not right … … for a change.

PercyB on August 7, 2012 at 10:36 PM

This is the same voice that was terrified that John Huntsman was going to be the eventual nominee? (and we all saw how well that turned out for JH).

DaSaintFan on August 8, 2012 at 12:31 AM

Petraeus? Heck no! I just thank God that my husband retired from the army before Petraeus’ “let’s win their hearts and minds” rules of non-engagement got him killed.

Maybe if Petraeus and his ilk had given a d*mn about the soldiers’ working and living conditions just maybe my husband wouldn’t have been exposed to toxic metals in Iraq or Afghanistan, which has permanently ruined his health.

sherrimae on August 8, 2012 at 1:30 AM

Did Petraeus visit Romney, or did the General who setup the winning strategy in Iraq, or did the head of the CIA visit Romney? That distinction, which hat he was wearing, makes a lot of difference. It probably is time for Romney to get some serious security briefings in event he wins the election. It is also time for Romney to learn more about the military situation from General Petraeus’ perspective.

Briefing candidates as needed is common practice in the interest of the nation and relative continuity of government.

{^_^}

herself on August 8, 2012 at 2:22 AM

They think they’re clever.

hawkdriver on August 7, 2012 at 9:02 PM

Sink me, but if you are not right … … for a change.

PercyB on August 7, 2012 at 10:36 PM

?

hawkdriver on August 8, 2012 at 5:24 AM

We’re going to hear about you snapping on day and going postal in some shopping center, Dude. The authorities are going to say they checked your computer and were amazed to find several thousand sockpuppets.

And pages and pages of the most sophomoric rhyming verses ever written.

As creepy as it gets.

hawkdriver on August 8, 2012 at 5:38 AM

Yeah, that’s what we need. This little freak gets giddy over the prospect of spying on us through our dishwashers.

avgjo on August 8, 2012 at 9:21 AM

Sorry, But …
Gen. Petraeus is a wishy-washy moderate.
To be sure, he was an excellent soldier, a good field commander, and a decent theater commander, but the only skills he has been polishing for the past several years is diplomacy. That is how one rises to the role of a General Officer. You see what happened to Gen. McChrystal for telling the truth. Well, Petraeus knows exactly the same damn thing yet kept his mouth shut like a good “diplomat”.
Meh …
~(Ä)~

Karl Magnus on August 8, 2012 at 11:48 AM

Petraeus has the character seen in few leaders. When accidently shot in the chest at a firing range and almost died, he later approved the promotion of the officer in charge of the range and the enlisted man who shot him. In my 67 years I have only known of one other person to exhibit that much character.

amr on August 8, 2012 at 12:21 PM

We’re going to hear about you snapping on day and going postal in some shopping center, Dude. The authorities are going to say they checked your computer and were amazed to find several thousand sockpuppets.

And pages and pages of the most sophomoric rhyming verses ever written.

As creepy as it gets.

hawkdriver on August 8, 2012 at 5:38 AM

I think you should call the FBI right now. And when you get off the phone with them, DHS, ATF and EPA. And you had best call the CIA for good measure.

VorDaj on August 8, 2012 at 4:05 PM

However since all these alphabet soup agencies are notoriously slow to act, you should probably arm yourself to the teeth, go to the nearest shopping center and start paroling. And be sure to call out to anyone who seems curious about what you are doing that you are looking for thousands of very dangerous sock puppets.

VorDaj on August 8, 2012 at 4:12 PM

You could at least “try” to maintain one character at a time badgering me, you know, to support the premise.

hawkdriver on August 8, 2012 at 5:32 PM

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