GOP chair: I hope Palin speaks at the convention

posted at 1:11 pm on August 7, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

“I can’t make that announcement tonight,” RNC chair Reince Priebus told Greta van Susteren last night on Fox when asked about Sarah Palin’s chances of landing a speaking slot at the Republican national convention in Tampa. “I think a lot of her,” Priebus replied, “and hope that she does speak.”  Politico picked up on the exchange:

If Palin does speak, she would join other prominent GOP women whose national profiles have risen since Palin was pushed onto the national spotlight after McCain chose her as his running mate. In addition to Rice, South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley and New Mexico Gov. Susana Martinez also will be speaking.

Palin told a reporter July 25 from The Tampa Bay Times that she’d “have an announcement in a couple of days” regarding the convention, though no announcement came.

The convention organizers are using a roll-out strategy to maximize media attention on selected groupings of speakers.  Yesterday they rolled out a list of seven Republicans with confirmed speaking slots, none of them a surprise or much of a game-changer.  Today, the group released three higher-profile names that balance interests from different wings of the party:

Former Sen. Rick Santorum gave Mitt Romney a run for his money during the Republican primaries. In return, Santorum will get a major speaking role at the Republican National Convention, organizers will announce today.

Convention organizers will also announce they are giving major speaking roles to former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, Oklahoma Gov. Mary Fallin and Sen. Rand Paul, the son of Rep. Ron Paul, another of Romney’s more dogged rivals.

Handing Santorum a prime speaking slot is a hat tip to his underdog presidential campaign. The under-funded, little-known former senator notched a surprising upset in Iowa, where his brand of social conservatism played well among activists. Santorum has been aggressive about wanting a speaking slot. “I have no doubt that we’ll have some role at the convention,” Santorum told CNN last week in an unusually forward statement.

National Journal believes that Rand Paul’s invitation to a prime-time speaking slot will satisfy Ron Paul delegates at the convention:

Picking Paul looks like a particularly elegant solution to what might have been a thorny problem. Ron Paul’s campaign didn’t gain traction with voters, but his supporters understood party rules better than other campaigns, giving them the opportunity to win delegate seats at county and state party conventions. Had Paul won a majority of just one more delegation, he would have been allowed to be formally nominated for president, which could have been a hurdle for organizers trying to arrange an event that will serve as a Romney coronation.

I’m not so sure that will satisfy those delegates.  I’d bet that Ron Paul himself will get a prime-time slot, as well as Newt Gingrich, both of whom made it through most of the primary process challenging Romney for the nomination.  I wouldn’t be surprised to see Herman Cain, Michele Bachmann, and Rick Perry, either.

Today’s announcement was most interesting for the grouping.  Setting aside the relatively unknown Mary Fallin, we have one speaker for the conservo-libertarians, one for social conservatives, and one for center-right pragmatists.  That’s a pretty good trick, one that underscores the strong desire for unity at the Republican convention.

Regarding Palin, I’d guess that her invitation will be promoted on its own.  If Priebus wants her to attend, the organizers will clearly extend the offer.  In case anyone questions Preibus’ desire, Breitbart’s Larry O’Connor asked Priebus to weigh in on the Palin-Cheney debate, and he falls squarely in Palin’s camp:


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LOL…I remember when Palin resigned the consensus among the PDSers was that she’s going to disappear and end her days in a trailer park, her book was going to be a flop, nobody would even remember who she was in three years…and then, damn it, the witch makes a killing and that’s what she planned all along. Didn’t she know that only Romneys are allowed to cash in on their names?

ddrintn on August 7, 2012 at 5:05 PM

The more they hate, the more Palin’s power grows…

It’s a good thing..:)

idesign on August 7, 2012 at 5:08 PM

And a former divorced actor who costarred with a chimpanzee named Bozo, stirred 10 times more interest than a self-made millionaire, a good family man, and someone who served honorably in the navy who also assisted in the cleanup of the Chalk River nuclear incident.

Sad really. /

sharrukin on August 7, 2012 at 5:03 PM

hmm, the Reagan and Palin comparison.

You are familiar with the idea of somebody moving from “lesser to greater” right?

Lets see…

Reagan:

Actor (now lets make it clear that he was an actor, not a reality celebrity), president of SAG, big time supporter of Barry Goldwater when it was not the most popular thing to be (how much did he lose that election by?) governor of California not once but twice! Completed both terms as governor of California — pretty big state. Ran for president (didn’t just hint at it but actually ran) against an incumbent president of his own party. Lost that primary. Ran again in 1980, won this time and then completed two terms. Two whole terms as president.

Palin:

Mayor of Wasilla, half term governor of Alaska, reality tv celebrity.

Seems legit to compare the two.

joey24007 on August 7, 2012 at 5:09 PM

ddrintn on August 7, 2012 at 5:05 PM

Mrs. Romney has raised a fine family and supported her husband. That is what their family decided on and I respect the decision since my family did it also.

Cindy Munford on August 7, 2012 at 5:09 PM

silvernana on August 7, 2012 at 5:08 PM

I don’t think he is being attacked. Just disagreed with. Same as he is doing with others. No harm, no foul, that’s what we all do here.

Cindy Munford on August 7, 2012 at 5:11 PM

LOL…I remember when Palin resigned the consensus among the PDSers was that she’s going to disappear and end her days in a trailer park, her book was going to be a flop, nobody would even remember who she was in three years…and then, damn it, the witch makes a killing and that’s what she planned all along. Didn’t she know that only Romneys are allowed to cash in on their names?

ddrintn on August 7, 2012 at 5:05 PM

So are you agreeing that she and her family have cashed in on their fame or what?

joey24007 on August 7, 2012 at 5:11 PM

I don’t understand all the attacks on joey for stating his opinion. It’s how he feels and he is entitled to that.

silvernana on August 7, 2012 at 5:08 PM

He can ‘feel’ anything he wants. Thats different than making an argument regarding the facts.

sharrukin on August 7, 2012 at 5:12 PM

I don’t think he is being attacked. Just disagreed with. Same as he is doing with others. No harm, no foul, that’s what we all do here.

Cindy Munford on August 7, 2012 at 5:11 PM

it doesn’t bother me at all.

joey24007 on August 7, 2012 at 5:12 PM

Give her Romney’s spot.

AmeriCuda on August 7, 2012 at 1:32 PM

super duper mega dittos!

Pragmatic on August 7, 2012 at 4:49 PM
she declined attempting to land that spot. Romney didn’t. He deserves it.

joey24007 on August 7, 2012 at 4:51 PM

mittens deserves nothing because he’s earned nothing and will do nothing to help America out the mess that it’s in…..mittens milquetoast is the absolute worst GOP candidate that has ever been considered as a potential nominee in the history of this country…he’s a Democrat that has not earned the GOP nomination …mittens is UNWORTHY and an EMBARASSMENT to conservatives everywhere! If it weren’t for the hatred that so many people have for obama, mittens would be back home (wherever that is) taking singing lessons.

Pragmatic on August 7, 2012 at 5:12 PM

He can ‘feel’ anything he wants. Thats different than making an argument regarding the facts.

sharrukin on August 7, 2012 at 5:12 PM

some people here don’t understand that it is a fact that she quit her office, and that forms the basis of my opinion that she should not speak at the convention.

mind-boggling.

joey24007 on August 7, 2012 at 5:13 PM

I don’t understand all the attacks on joey for stating his opinion. It’s how he feels and he is entitled to that. I am not a supporter or fan of either Palin or Romney, but to call someone a hater who states an opinion of Palin you don’t agree with, shows no tolerance.

silvernana on August 7, 2012 at 5:08 PM

Hmmmmm….I don’t ever recall your coming to the defense of Romney naysayers in Romney threads who take more abuse for saying less. Fraudulent ‘bot.

Palin:

Mayor of Wasilla, half term governor of Alaska, reality tv celebrity.

Seems legit to compare the two.

joey24007 on August 7, 2012 at 5:09 PM

Reagan would loooooooove Palin. So yeah, quite legit.

ddrintn on August 7, 2012 at 5:13 PM

I don’t think he is being attacked. Just disagreed with. Same as he is doing with others. No harm, no foul, that’s what we all do here.

Cindy Munford on August 7, 2012 at 5:11 PM

I think being called a hater is an attack, and is what liberals do when you disagree with them.

silvernana on August 7, 2012 at 5:14 PM

Pragmatic on August 7, 2012 at 5:12 PM

the topic is whether or not Palin should speak at the convention. carry on.

joey24007 on August 7, 2012 at 5:14 PM

Palin:

Mayor of Wasilla, half term governor of Alaska, reality tv celebrity.

Seems legit to compare the two.

joey24007 on August 7, 2012 at 5:09 PM

Reagan would loooooooove Palin. So yeah, quite legit.

ddrintn on August 7, 2012 at 5:13 PM

yep, speaking for the dead.

joey24007 on August 7, 2012 at 5:15 PM

Seems legit to compare the two.

joey24007 on August 7, 2012 at 5:09 PM

Hey Sparky, big hole in your arguement…:)

Reagan was 70 when he was sworn in as President. Palin is only 48, and she’s just getting started..:)

idesign on August 7, 2012 at 5:16 PM

some people here don’t understand that it is a fact that she quit her office, and that forms the basis of my opinion that she should not speak at the convention.

mind-boggling.

joey24007 on August 7, 2012 at 5:13 PM

Yeah, she did…but I don’t see how that’s a bar to winning higher office as a GOP politico when the friggin’ NOMINEE of the party this year is the guy who signed ObamaCare’s blueprint into law.

ddrintn on August 7, 2012 at 5:16 PM

sharrukin on August 7, 2012 at 4:11 PM

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You are comparing a person leaving a private company to take over the Olympics to a person who quit being a governor in order to have a reality tv show?

ok.
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joey24007 on August 7, 2012 at 4:17 PM

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Her motives for quitting have just as much validity as Mitt’s.

All of your criticism of her sound like pure jealousy and envy on your part. Kinda’ like a Socialist Democrat, actually.

listens2glenn on August 7, 2012 at 5:16 PM

Hey Sparky, big hole in your arguement…:)

Reagan was 70 when he was sworn in as President. Palin is only 48, and she’s just getting started..:)

idesign on August 7, 2012 at 5:16 PM

seems legit.

joey24007 on August 7, 2012 at 5:18 PM

silvernana on August 7, 2012 at 5:14 PM

Well I agree with you, I didn’t see that. Not only silly, not helpful and no way to win an argument.

Cindy Munford on August 7, 2012 at 5:18 PM

Used to like Cheney-now I think he is an arrogant idiot.Just what did he expect to accomplish by pissing off Palin supporters?The conservative outrage at a Palin snub will be very detrimental to the Romney campaign.It’s amazing how stupid you moderates are.Do you really think your guy stands a snowball’s chance in hell of beating Obama if he loses even a fraction of the conservative base?Ask John McCain!You RINOs need to keep your traps shut!

redware on August 7, 2012 at 5:18 PM

Hotair should do a survey asking its readers the following:

Which would you prefer to see?
A speech by Mitt Romney at the GOP convention OR
A speech by Sarah Palin at the GOP convertion

Pragmatic on August 7, 2012 at 5:19 PM

Hmmmmm….I don’t ever recall your coming to the defense of Romney naysayers in Romney threads who take more abuse for saying less. Fraudulent ‘bot.
ddrintn on August 7, 2012 at 5:13 PM

There you go with the name-calling again. Is that the only way you feel you can win an argument?

silvernana on August 7, 2012 at 5:19 PM

Yeah, she did…but I don’t see how that’s a bar to winning higher office as a GOP politico when the friggin’ NOMINEE of the party this year is the guy who signed ObamaCare’s blueprint into law.

ddrintn on August 7, 2012 at 5:16 PM

Hmm. You think that quitting one political office should not be a bar to getting elected to a higher one?

ok.

joey24007 on August 7, 2012 at 5:20 PM

Pragmatic on August 7, 2012 at 5:12 PM
the topic is whether or not Palin should speak at the convention. carry on.

joey24007 on August 7, 2012 at 5:14 PM

…and you prefer to listen to mittens than to Palin? It’s either or because if Palin isn’t speaking, I won’t be watching anyway (and a whole lot of other people won’t be watching either)!

Pragmatic on August 7, 2012 at 5:22 PM

Do you really think your guy stands a snowball’s chance in hell of beating Obama if he loses even a fraction of the conservative base?Ask John McCain!You RINOs need to keep your traps shut!

redware on August 7, 2012 at 5:18 PM

Do you honestly believe that McCain lost to Obama because some conservatives didn’t vote?

joey24007 on August 7, 2012 at 5:22 PM

and you prefer to listen to mittens than to Palin? It’s either or because if Palin isn’t speaking, I won’t be watching anyway (and a whole lot of other people won’t be watching either)!

Pragmatic on August 7, 2012 at 5:22 PM

whats up with the automatic relationship between criticizing Palin and supporting Romney?

joey24007 on August 7, 2012 at 5:23 PM

ddrintn on August 7, 2012 at 5:16 PM

.
Hmm. You think that quitting one political office should not be a bar to getting elected to a higher one?

joey24007 on August 7, 2012 at 5:20 PM

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Nope.

listens2glenn on August 7, 2012 at 5:23 PM

Seems legit to compare the two.

joey24007 on August 7, 2012 at 5:09 PM

I have heard your type of hysteria before, mostly from the Democrats and the red Republicans who buy into the leftist media narrative. I heard it with Reagan, with Rush Limbaugh, and with Palin. Its not new and its not terribly original either. We all know what your opinions are because we have all seen Tina Fey explaining them.

sharrukin on August 7, 2012 at 5:24 PM

All of your criticism of her sound like pure jealousy and envy on your part. Kinda’ like a Socialist Democrat, actually.

listens2glenn on August 7, 2012 at 5:16 PM

kinda like redistributing tax revenue from oil companies to every citizen of the state?

sure, I envy people who allow a camera to follow them around all day.

joey24007 on August 7, 2012 at 5:24 PM

have heard your type of hysteria before, mostly from the Democrats and the red Republicans who buy into the leftist media narrative. I heard it with Reagan, with Rush Limbaugh, and with Palin. Its not new and its not terribly original either. We all know what your opinions are because we have all seen Tina Fey explaining them.

sharrukin on August 7, 2012 at 5:24 PM

yep, I base my opinions on Tina Fey.

joey24007 on August 7, 2012 at 5:25 PM

.
Nope.

listens2glenn on August 7, 2012 at 5:23 PM

bankrupt.

joey24007 on August 7, 2012 at 5:26 PM

COULDA!

M240H on August 7, 2012 at 5:26 PM

whats up with the automatic relationship between criticizing Palin and supporting Romney?

joey24007 on August 7, 2012 at 5:23 PM

I don’t know, what is up with that? You support Romney and criticize Palin like a legion of Romney supporters before you, so why don’t you tell us?

sharrukin on August 7, 2012 at 5:26 PM

So let me get this straight: when a GOP big shot (like Cheney) criticizes Palin everybody wonders as to why he would “insult her supporters” but when a GOP big shot praises Palin you believe that its because he honestly believes what he says?

joey24007 on August 7, 2012 at 5:27 PM

I don’t know, what is up with that? You support Romney and criticize Palin like a legion of Romney supporters before you, so why don’t you tell us?

sharrukin on August 7, 2012 at 5:26 PM

what makes you think I support Romney other than likely voting for him as opposed to Obama?

joey24007 on August 7, 2012 at 5:28 PM

redware on August 7, 2012 at 5:18 PM

.
Do you honestly believe that McCain lost to Obama because some conservatives didn’t vote?

joey24007 on August 7, 2012 at 5:22 PM

.
Some Conservatives, and a LOT of Moderates didn’t vote for McCain last time, because he was a milquetoast campaigner.

And he was milquetoast campaigner, because he IS a MILQUETOAST POLITICIAN.

listens2glenn on August 7, 2012 at 5:28 PM

COULDA!

M240H on August 7, 2012 at 5:26 PM

You’re going to shoot your eye out..:)

idesign on August 7, 2012 at 5:28 PM

Palin plays the long game. I imagine the discussion is over planks.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see Romney and Palin come to some kind of agreement over those things they can agree on. They are far apart politically but united in ABO.

Meanwhile, today is the Missouri primary. Let’s see if Governor Palin can extend her winning streak. If the other Sarah wins be prepared for heads to explode.

Viator on August 7, 2012 at 5:30 PM

Bannon said it is no accident that Palin is endorsing more candidates in Senate races.

“She’s focused on the senate. That’s where she’s putting her effort…Obviously they are winning, but I don’t think it’s just about winning, it’s about sending a message. Even if the streak comes to an end she’s backing anti establishment people,” he said.

Food for thought.

DannoJyd on August 7, 2012 at 5:38 PM

Keep that roll a’trollin’ RawHiiiiiiiide! Yee Haaa!

SurferDoc on August 7, 2012 at 5:41 PM

And a former divorced actor who costarred with a chimpanzee named Bozo, stirred 10 times more interest than a self-made millionaire, a good family man, and someone who served honorably in the navy who also assisted in the cleanup of the Chalk River nuclear incident.

Sad really. /

sharrukin on August 7, 2012 at 5:03 PM

Nearly as sad as your knowledge of Presidential biographies.

The bolded portion is from Jimmy Carter’s life story.

D’oh!

Alberta_Patriot on August 7, 2012 at 5:45 PM

This is like a political IQ test. Romney’s supporters aren’t smart enough to get the Palin voters back on board. It only remains to be seen if Romney is smart enough to get them back on board.

SurferDoc on August 7, 2012 at 5:45 PM

Nearly as sad as your knowledge of Presidential biographies.

The bolded portion is from Jimmy Carter’s life story.

D’oh!

Alberta_Patriot on August 7, 2012 at 5:45 PM

Yeah, I know. That was the point genius.

sharrukin on August 7, 2012 at 5:49 PM

I can’t think a better way for Palin to leverage her power than concentrate on the senate. All she and the American people need is 50+ for majority and 60 for a filibuster proof majority. She is nearing the point where 20 US Senators have asked her for help getting elected.

Many of them are newcomers, not a few were long shots, and all are on the conservative spectrum. Watch conventional wisdom realize the implications of this in the not too distant future.

Viator on August 7, 2012 at 5:50 PM

I don’t know, what is up with that? You support Romney and criticize Palin like a legion of Romney supporters before you, so why don’t you tell us?

sharrukin on August 7, 2012 at 5:26 PM
what makes you think I support Romney other than likely voting for him as opposed to Obama?

joey24007 on August 7, 2012 at 5:28 PM

anyone who would vote for someone they don’t support has questionable principles (if they have any principles at all).

Pragmatic on August 7, 2012 at 5:57 PM

I just love the fact that Palin dresses as an ordinary run of the mill American. Confidence means comfort. It shows. The biggest force in Conservative politics. And she is one of us. Or at least many of us. No phoniness required when you are real.

Bmore on August 7, 2012 at 5:58 PM

Romney quit Bain, too. Maybe he can explain it to you.

RSbrewer

Absolutely. Romney quit essentially midway through his term because he knew he would lose and that wouldn’t look good on that prez-candidate resume. Palin quit because she was being harassed BECAUSE she motivates conservatives. I’ll take the latter quitter over the squish quitter, thanks.

ddrintn

And you clowns wonder why folks refer to you as the cultists you are, lol.

what makes you think I support Romney other than likely voting for him as opposed to Obama?

joey24007

Crazy don’t think, it just reacts. If you refuse to bow at the altar of Palin for any reason whatsoever, you’re a mittbot….even if you think he’s a terrible choice.

Paulbots used to have a monopoly on crazy, but not anymore. The Palin cultists are darn close to taking over the lead in that department, and it gets worse with each day as we get closer to the election.

The bolded portion is from Jimmy Carter’s life story.

D’oh!

Alberta_Patriot

Well, he was talking about Carter, so it makes sense that it is.

xblade on August 7, 2012 at 6:02 PM

This is like a political IQ test. Romney’s supporters aren’t smart enough to get the Palin voters back on board. It only remains to be seen if Romney is smart enough to get them back on board.

SurferDoc on August 7, 2012 at 5:45 PM

That was a strange comment. At what point do diehard Palin fans even want to consider another candidate. When push comes to shove, an Obama win will give them some sort of thrill because their girlfriend has been vindicated.

The ship has sailed from ’08, serious voters and Americans are on it and heading to a Republican victory in ’12 with the nominated candidate.

While some have been analyzing and sympathizing with Palin for four years, the rest of us have been living in reality under a bizarro administration that needs to be relieved of their duties in November.

salem on August 7, 2012 at 6:03 PM

Hmm. You think that quitting one political office should not be a bar to getting elected to a higher one?

joey24007 on August 7, 2012 at 5:20 PM

I gather, then, that you’re unaware that many times, one is required by election laws to resign in order to to run for higher office?

psrch on August 7, 2012 at 6:03 PM

Viator on August 7, 2012 at 5:50 PM

Always good to see someone paying attention.

wolfsDad on August 7, 2012 at 6:18 PM

I hope that Sarah takes a pass if an invite comes her way and continues to campaign for choice Senate candidates.

Karl Rove and his Lilliputian, self-picked candidate don’t need Sarah’s help finding the Dempster Dumpster of GOP history alongside of John McCain and Bob Dole.

The Democrats didn’t get the message on fielding competent (or at least strong) candidates for many years until Clinton.

I don’t plan to watch the GOP convention.

It would probably nauseate me as much as NBC and the Olympics.

molonlabe28 on August 7, 2012 at 6:18 PM

silvernana on August 7, 2012 at 5:08 PM

And posters who think his opinion is childish, petty and based on envy are entitled to have that opinion. Why are you criticizing others for being intolerant when he has shown little but hate?

katiejane on August 7, 2012 at 6:29 PM

Well, he was talking about Carter, so it makes sense that it is.

xblade on August 7, 2012 at 6:02 PM

He made it appear as though he was talking about one person.

Either his historical knowledge is horrible or his grammar is.

Alberta_Patriot on August 7, 2012 at 6:30 PM

sure, I envy people who allow a camera to follow them around all day.

joey24007 on August 7, 2012 at 5:24 PM

Was that a dig at Christie or Palin?

BoxHead1 on August 7, 2012 at 6:32 PM

I think VP Cheney believed what he said but I also think it was counter productive to say it. Luckily his daughter was smarter, good for her future.

Cindy Munford on August 7, 2012 at 6:32 PM

Hotair should do a survey asking its readers the following:

Which would you prefer to see?
A speech by Mitt Romney at the GOP convention OR
A speech by Sarah Palin at the GOP convertion

Pragmatic on August 7, 2012 at 5:19 PM

Awesome idea!!!!

However, it would bring out the rinos and liberals in droves
in order to overload their side with votes. Similar to what
happened to Joe Miller when an orchestrated movement by the
democraps led them to come out and vote for Murkowski. She
had more dem votes than repub.

How do these posters that I have never seen before get on these
threads anyways? Do they keep changing their “handle”? Or am
I just missing the open registration times?

I swear the same trolls/troublemakers pop up with different aliases.

Amjean on August 7, 2012 at 6:34 PM

So the chairman of the GOP thinks that it would be helpful during a convention to nominate the next leader of the country that one of the speakers should be a person who quit her duties as the governor of a state so that her family can challenge the Kardashians on reality tv?

Oh happy joy, another clueless little rat crawls out from under a rock, dismissing Palin utterly by repeating nonsense that was proven to be nonsense a long time ago.

Why is somebody who toyed with supporters as to whether or not they would run for president a leader in the party?

joey24007 on August 7, 2012 at 3:44 PM

Why is it that the people who whine the loudest about Palin “toying with her supporters” are never supporters?

sure, I mean the best motivators in history have been quitters. Remember when George Washington quit at Valley Forge?

joey24007 on August 7, 2012 at 3:58 PM

Well, I suppose if, while the redcoats kept firing at him, the other members of George Washington’s party decided to abandon him to his fate instead of sticking with him and firing back alongside him, he’d have been left with some unpalatable options: get shot, get captured, or QUIT (while making sure that his replacement had everything he needed to continue the mission, as Palin did).

Aitch748 on August 7, 2012 at 6:37 PM

salem on August 7, 2012 at 6:03 PM

I read SurferDoc’s remark to indicate that a smart politician would want all of his voting base enthusiastic and it wouldn’t take much to get Gov. Palin’s branch of the Republicans on board. Geesh, is it really that hard to acknowledge a part of the party you don’t always agree with?

Cindy Munford on August 7, 2012 at 6:37 PM

Nearly as sad as your knowledge of Presidential biographies.

The bolded portion is from Jimmy Carter’s life story.

D’oh!

Alberta_Patriot on August 7, 2012 at 5:45 PM

Yeah, I know. That was the point genius.

sharrukin on August 7, 2012 at 5:49 PM

I followed it the first time and I’m a freaking BoxHead.

here
1. Reagan had an imperfect biography
2. Carter had a very nice biography

Carter was a horrible president. Reagan was great.

Get it?

BoxHead1 on August 7, 2012 at 6:39 PM

This is like a political IQ test. Romney’s supporters aren’t smart enough to get the Palin voters back on board. It only remains to be seen if Romney is smart enough to get them back on board.

SurferDoc on August 7, 2012 at 5:45 PM

Mitt is on his own with this because too many of his supporters would rather fall on their sword of righteous indignation and whine because those Palinistas still like Palin and think she deserves some recognition as the 08 VP candidate. Maybe they’re worried about Mitt losing and they want to make sure they can blame Palin & her supporters for a loss?

katiejane on August 7, 2012 at 6:39 PM

silvernana on August 7, 2012 at 5:08 PM

And posters who think his opinion is childish, petty and based on envy are entitled to have that opinion. Why are you criticizing others for being intolerant when he has shown little but hate?

katiejane on August 7, 2012 at 6:29 PM

It is not hate for someone not to support your candidate. You cannot come on a Palin thread and say one word negative about her without being called a hater. That is pitiful. You say his opinion is childish, petty and based on envy (that is laughable) and yours and others is not?

silvernana on August 7, 2012 at 6:40 PM

katiejane on August 7, 2012 at 6:29 PM

I don’t think joey hates, he just has some really high standard. Especially for politicians.

Cindy Munford on August 7, 2012 at 6:40 PM

It is not hate for someone not to support your candidate. You cannot come on a Palin thread and say one word negative about her without being called a hater. That is pitiful. You say his opinion is childish, petty and based on envy (that is laughable) and yours and others is not?

silvernana on August 7, 2012 at 6:40 PM

Who made you the arbitrator of free speech?

If you don’t like it here you can always leave..:)

idesign on August 7, 2012 at 6:45 PM

Hmm. You think that quitting one political office should not be a bar to getting elected to a higher one?

ok.

joey24007 on August 7, 2012 at 5:20 PM

Actually, no. No I don’t.

And if that person decided to run for office again, I would vote for that person, particularly if I knew that (1) the person did excellent work in the time that the person was in office, (2) the person was essentially forced out by legal trickery, and (3) the person did remain in office an extra month after announcing the resignation just to make sure that the person’s replacement was fully up to speed and could assume the person’s duties on the very hour that the person left office.

Aitch748 on August 7, 2012 at 6:46 PM

silvernana on August 7, 2012 at 6:40 PM

There is a difference between expressing your opinion and spamming a thread with repetitive posts saying “she’s a quitter, she resigned for the money, she’s blah, her supporters are stupid, her supporters blah, blah.”

katiejane on August 7, 2012 at 6:47 PM

I read SurferDoc’s remark to indicate that a smart politician would want all of his voting base enthusiastic and it wouldn’t take much to get Gov. Palin’s branch of the Republicans on board. Geesh, is it really that hard to acknowledge a part of the party you don’t always agree with?

Cindy Munford on August 7, 2012 at 6:37 PM

Maybe you should read it again without the rose-colored glasses. Look for the words “not smart enough”.

salem on August 7, 2012 at 6:49 PM

idesign on August 7, 2012 at 6:45 PM

Who made you the arbiter? I didn’t say I don’t like it here. I just think people should be able to voice an opinion without getting called names because they say something negative about Sarah Palin.

silvernana on August 7, 2012 at 6:53 PM

Hmm. You think that quitting one political office should not be a bar to getting elected to a higher one?

ok.

joey24007 on August 7, 2012 at 5:20 PM

You confuse retreating in the face of overwhelming enemy forces with quitting.

Ok.

Don L on August 7, 2012 at 7:01 PM

salem on August 7, 2012 at 6:49 PM

I don’t expect people who are and have always been Gov. Romney supporters to believe that she is useful, I do expect Gov. Romney to realized it though.

Cindy Munford on August 7, 2012 at 7:05 PM

Here is where you can see how the two Sarahs did today.

http://enr.sos.mo.gov/ENR/Views/

Viator on August 7, 2012 at 7:08 PM

I don’t expect people who are and have always been Gov. Romney supporters to believe that she is useful, I do expect Gov. Romney to realized it though.

Cindy Munford on August 7, 2012 at 7:05 PM

It certainly wouldn’t harm him to showcase his smarts.

Bmore on August 7, 2012 at 7:08 PM

Bmore on August 7, 2012 at 7:08 PM

Did you see the other thread? Allah’s take.

It’ll make conservatives happy and won’t alienate anyone except the most Frum-ian Palin critics. Seems like an easy call to me.

Frum-ian! Harsh!

Cindy Munford on August 7, 2012 at 7:11 PM

Let’s face it, immeasurable animosity toward Palin from her party is precipitated by the fact that she’s a strong, principled, (say that about Romney with a straight face) and a woman, who dared to have that baby.

The pro-culture of death, chauvinistic money folks are legion.

They may not all fit that profile, but far too many do.

Don L on August 7, 2012 at 7:11 PM

I don’t expect people who are and have always been Gov. Romney supporters to believe that she is useful, I do expect Gov. Romney to realized it though.

Cindy Munford on August 7, 2012 at 7:05 PM

It certainly wouldn’t harm him to showcase his smarts.

Bmore on August 7, 2012 at 7:08 PM

Smarts? I’d prefer cunning and unprincipled (or flexibly principled whatever.)

Don L on August 7, 2012 at 7:13 PM

Frum-ian! Harsh!

Cindy Munford on August 7, 2012 at 7:11 PM

Lol! As I know you are aware Cindy, I think very little of Frum. He reminds me a little of Toohey.

Bmore on August 7, 2012 at 7:22 PM

Don L on August 7, 2012 at 7:13 PM

I’d like winning without cheating.

Cindy Munford on August 7, 2012 at 7:22 PM

Bmore on August 7, 2012 at 7:22 PM

Too true, I limit my interest of Canadian input to canapfor and Steyn.

Cindy Munford on August 7, 2012 at 7:29 PM

Cindy Munford on August 7, 2012 at 7:29 PM

Two great Canadians right there. ; )

Bmore on August 7, 2012 at 7:33 PM

Sarah and Todd, CFA bags. Simple and iconic. Picture worth a thousand words.

mitt? he has a gazillion dollars and a slew of high paid consultants. whats mitts image? a caged seamus,a dressage horse? smooching with ted kennedy?
the obama campaign continues to define mitt.

renalin on August 7, 2012 at 7:34 PM

It is not hate for someone not to support your candidate. You cannot come on a Palin thread and say one word negative about her without being called a hater. That is pitiful. You say his opinion is childish, petty and based on envy (that is laughable) and yours and others is not?

silvernana on August 7, 2012 at 6:40 PM

+ 100..Thread winner!!..:)

Dire Straits on August 7, 2012 at 7:43 PM

silvernana on August 7, 2012 at 6:40 PM

Palin supporters take a lot of crap to. I’d call it a draw.

Cindy Munford on August 7, 2012 at 7:44 PM

Romney quit Bain, too. Maybe he can explain it to you.

RSbrewer

Absolutely. Romney quit essentially midway through his term because he knew he would lose and that wouldn’t look good on that prez-candidate resume. Palin quit because she was being harassed BECAUSE she motivates conservatives. I’ll take the latter quitter over the squish quitter, thanks.

ddrintn

And you clowns wonder why folks refer to you as the cultists you are, lol.

Refute what I said.

what makes you think I support Romney other than likely voting for him as opposed to Obama?

joey24007

Crazy don’t think, it just reacts. If you refuse to bow at the altar of Palin for any reason whatsoever, you’re a mittbot….even if you think he’s a terrible choice.

Nah, it’s just been the ‘bot m.o. for 4 years now. You don’t have to bow at the altar of Palin, but there are more ways of refusing to do that than spitting every time her name is mentioned. You Bill Maher wannabe PDS freaks are in a cult of your own. Don’t want to “bow” to Palin? Ignore her and anything about her. But you creepy PDSers just can’t do that, can you?

Paulbots used to have a monopoly on crazy, but not anymore. The Palin cultists are darn close to taking over the lead in that department, and it gets worse with each day as we get closer to the election.

xblade on August 7, 2012 at 6:02 PM

“Crazy don’t think”, it just sits around in its underwear and mumbles about “reality TV stars” and “irrelevant” and “stoooooopid” and “cashing in” all the time. We all know the very model of sanity is thinking that nominating the squish who signed into law the blueprint for ObamaCare is the way to defeat ObamaCare.

Why is somebody who toyed with supporters as to whether or not they would run for president a leader in the party?

joey24007 on August 7, 2012 at 3:44 PM

Why is it that the people who whine the loudest about Palin “toying with her supporters” are never supporters?

Aitch748 on August 7, 2012 at 6:37 PM

These same freaks are the ones who usually say that Palin has no supporters anyway. Like one of the junior Bill Mahers said above, “crazy don’t think”.

ddrintn on August 7, 2012 at 7:59 PM

It is not hate for someone not to support your candidate. You cannot come on a Palin thread and say one word negative about her without being called a hater. That is pitiful. You say his opinion is childish, petty and based on envy (that is laughable) and yours and others is not?

silvernana on August 7, 2012 at 6:40 PM

+ 100..Thread winner!!..:)

Dire Straits on August 7, 2012 at 7:43 PM

Yeah, right. Try saying you don’t support Romney. “TROLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!! SOCIALIST!!!!!!! O-BOT!!!!!!!”

ddrintn on August 7, 2012 at 8:02 PM

Palin supporters take a lot of crap to. I’d call it a draw.

Cindy Munford on August 7, 2012 at 7:44 PM

I’m not a Romney supporter, but he’s the choice. I’m not a Romney or Palin hater. I was a Palin supporter when she was running, and I appreciate her efforts to get conservatives elected. I’d agree it’s a draw on the crap, tho. I see what Dire got called above. Didn’t realize I was arguing with a totally deranged person.

silvernana on August 7, 2012 at 8:32 PM

I followed it the first time and I’m a freaking BoxHead.

here
1. Reagan had an imperfect biography
2. Carter had a very nice biography

Carter was a horrible president. Reagan was great.

Get it?

BoxHead1 on August 7, 2012 at 6:39 PM

Actually, that’s not true either. Carters naval career is routinely overstated.

“Honorable” is a technically accurate term to describe Carters near-career in the navy. “Adequate” would be a more truthful term.

Rod Adams, a former Naval Nuclear Engineer and author of the Atomic Insights blog weighs in on Carters naval history:

One myth correction, however. President Carter was a submarine officer, but he was not a nuclear engineer.

He graduated from the US Naval Academy in June 1946 (he entered in 1943 with the class of 1947, but his class was in a war-driven accelerated 3 year program) with an undesignated bachelor of science degree. Even if the Naval Academy had offered a majors program for his class, it is unlikely that it would have included Nuclear Engineering as a option – after all, the Manhattan Project was a dark secret for most of his time at Annapolis.

After graduation, Jimmy Carter served as a surface warfare officer for a two years and then volunteered for the submarine force. He served in a variety of billets, including engineer officer of diesel submarines and qualified to command submarines.

In November 1952, he began a three month temporary duty assignment at the Naval Reactor branch. He started nuclear power school (a six month course of study that leads to operator training) in March, 1953. In July 1953, his father passed away and he resigned his commission to run the family peanut farm. He was discharged from active duty on 9 October, 1953. According to an old friend of mine who served as Rickover’s personnel officer at Naval Reactors, LT Carter did not complete nuclear power school because of the need to take care of business at home.

The prototype for the USS Nautilus was completed in Idaho in May 1953, so LT Carter might have had some opportunity to see it in action before leaving the Navy. However, the USS Nautilus did not go to sea until January 17, 1955, so there is no possibility that he ever qualified to stand watch on a nuclear powered submarine.

He never experienced the incredible gift of being able to operate a power plant that was so clean that it could run inside a sealed submarine, so reliable that it could power that submarine even deep under the Arctic ice, and so energy dense that the submarine could operate for years without new fuel.

When I think about the 1976 campaign and the importance of the energy issue at that time, I cannot help but wonder why Jimmy Carter’s promoters made such a big deal about his nuclear expertise. My wonder turns to cynicism when I think about the policies that his administration imposed and the damage that they did to the growth of the industry just at a time when we most needed a vibrant new energy industry player.

Best regards,

Rod Adams
Editor, Atomic Insights
http://www.atomicinsights.blogspot.com
http://www.atomicinsights.com

FULL DISCLOSURE: Rod Adams voted for Barack Obama in the 2008 election, however he has withdrawn his support for BHO following Obama and Senator harry Reids deliberate planned sabotage of the US nuclear industry. He has little, if any, reason to misrepresent the second worst president ever.

Alberta_Patriot on August 7, 2012 at 8:35 PM

Seems legit to compare the two.

joey24007 on August 7, 2012 at 5:09 PM

Goodness, aren’t you smart. Here’s something to chew on: when Reagan was the same age Palin was when she was elected governor, he was SAG president and still an actor.

When he was the age she is now, he was still on the GE circuit.

He wasn’t elected governor until he was 56. Palin was elected governor when she was 42.

She has lots and lots of time.

Who’s doing more to elect conservatives right now, you or Sarah Palin?

Why don’t you give up your tired little anti-Palin crusade? I’m a Palin fan, but I’m proud to support Romney. Try easing up on the friendly fire – it’ll help our side. Think of Reagan’s 11th commandment, if it helps.

Missy on August 7, 2012 at 8:50 PM

silvernana on August 7, 2012 at 8:32 PM

It’s probably got more to do with history than any personal animosity. Dire, while not a hater, certainly isn’t a supporter of Gov. Palin and it’s not a secret. ddrintn is a disappointed supporter of Gov. Palin and was really looking forward to voting for her this time. Too much emotion, not enough logic. Hopefully we will all soon focus on Obama as the opponent instead of each other. That said, I did my fair share of arguing, so obviously I’m not against it.

Cindy Munford on August 7, 2012 at 8:51 PM

ddrintn on August 7, 2012 at 8:02 PM

You are a kook!!..:)

Dire Straits on August 7, 2012 at 8:55 PM

Dire Straits on August 7, 2012 at 8:55 PM

Every family has them.

Cindy Munford on August 7, 2012 at 8:58 PM

Cindy Munford on August 7, 2012 at 8:51 PM

I like Sarah Palin..I just wish some of the “Shriners” would tone it down to at least a roar!!..:)

Dire Straits on August 7, 2012 at 8:59 PM

Every family has them.

Cindy Munford on August 7, 2012 at 8:58 PM

Good point!!..:)

Dire Straits on August 7, 2012 at 9:00 PM

Dire Straits on August 7, 2012 at 8:59 PM

I know. If you are going to take swipes at political sycophants you have to be consistent. Go poke bluegill with a stick.

Cindy Munford on August 7, 2012 at 9:19 PM

I know. If you are going to take swipes at political sycophants you have to be consistent. Go poke bluegill with a stick.

Cindy Munford on August 7, 2012 at 9:19 PM

Very good point!..:)

Dire Straits on August 7, 2012 at 9:43 PM

I know. If you are going to take swipes at political sycophants you have to be consistent. Go poke bluegill with a stick.

Cindy Munford on August 7, 2012 at 9:19 PM

Very good point!..:)

Dire Straits on August 7, 2012 at 9:43 PM

That’s my job. Lol! ; )

Bmore on August 7, 2012 at 9:45 PM

That’s my job. Lol! ; )

Bmore on August 7, 2012 at 9:45 PM

LoLz..:):)

Dire Straits on August 7, 2012 at 9:49 PM

Dire Straits on August 7, 2012 at 9:43 PM

Bmore is right, he does love to go after bluegill. Although its smell is the least offensive thing about it.

Cindy Munford on August 7, 2012 at 9:50 PM

I don’t understand all the attacks on joey for stating his opinion. It’s how he feels and he is entitled to that. I am not a supporter or fan of either Palin or Romney, but to call someone a hater who states an opinion of Palin you don’t agree with, shows no tolerance.

silvernana on August 7, 2012 at 5:08 PM

Maybe it’s a commentary on his opinions? They’re not exactly well thought-out or coherent. In fact, he’s acting like a nasty little troll (in the non-internet sense).

He gives the game away when he keeps muttering “quitter” and “reality tv-star.” These are not serious criticisms.

tom on August 7, 2012 at 9:51 PM

whats up with the automatic relationship between criticizing Palin and supporting Romney?

joey24007 on August 7, 2012 at 5:23 PM

This, on the other hand, is a very good question, though I suspect not in the way that joey24007 meant.

Why do the harshest Palin critics always seem to be huge Romney supporters? I can think of a few exceptions, but the trend is unmistakeable.

tom on August 7, 2012 at 10:00 PM

Hey Puss & boots….

Romney backed Hatch, he’s evil..:)

idesign on August 7, 2012 at 4:56 PM

We were talking aboout Palin not Romney. Remember anti-establishment conservative Palin? How fickle you are to forget her so soon. You nutty nistas manage to defend her for everything even the endorsement of a RINO who’s been in office more than 4 decades. All you can say is but but Romney did it too.

Meow on August 7, 2012 at 10:03 PM

Meow on August 7, 2012 at 10:03 PM

Four pages and only once was Gov. Romney’s endorsement of Sen. Hatch mentioned but that’s what you are going to hang your hat on? I bet it frosts your chaps that Gov. Romney endorsed, donated money to and campaigned for Christine O’Donnell.

Cindy Munford on August 7, 2012 at 10:07 PM

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