Will: Reid accusations “McCarthyism from the desert”

posted at 11:21 am on August 6, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

George Will slammed Harry Reid on ABC’s This Week roundtable for his evidence-free accusations of tax evasion by Mitt Romney, drawing the obvious parallel to Senator Joe McCarthy and his ever-changing list.  With Reid, it’s an ever-changing citation of sources, none of whom would ever have access to Romney’s tax returns, which makes Reid look less like a crusader over a real issue and more like a liar and a smearmonger.  And like McCarthy, Reid insists that the target of his accusation has to prove himself innocent:

Will likened Reid’s attacks on Romney to former Wisconsin Republican Sen. Joe McCarthy’s anti-communist crusade in the 1950s, particularly his claims that communists had infiltrated the U.S. State Department.

“Look: In 1950 Joe McCarthy went to West Virginia, didn’t know what to tell the Women’s Republican Club of Wheeling, West Virginia,” Will explained. “So he said, ‘I have in my hand a list of 205 — we think — 205 communists in State Department.”

“He didn’t have a list. Harry Reid doesn’t have any evidence either. This is McCarthyism from the desert.”

Guy Benson concluded over the weekend that the White House had to have approved this line of attack:

Obama isn’t lifting a finger to put an end to this slanderous side-show because his campaign specifically gave Reid the green light to launch these baseless attacks. Politico reports:

The ruthless Senate majority leader sees political gold in his attack on Romney — and he’s got the blessing from President Barack Obama’s campaign for the attack, even if he lacks evidence on Romney’s failure to pay taxes. Reid has calculated that the frenzy created by his charge has accomplished exactly what he sought to do: Turn the focus back onto the GOP nominee’s unreleased tax returns, according to several people close to the leader and the campaign. For Reid, he’s got virtually nothing to lose: His approval ratings back home are still upside-down, and he may not even run for reelection when he’s up for a sixth term in 2016. On top of that, his aides say, Reid genuinely believes his source…

Guy also gives three reasons why it’s not true, so be sure to read it all.

While we’re on the subject, let’s give Part II of Questions Harry Reid Won’t Answer. This post originally appeared at Captain’s Quarters on August 20, 2006, again based on a long-term probe by the LA Times into Harry Reid’s finances and his efforts to push legislation to directly benefit himself and his cronies.

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The Culture Of Corruption Redux

When the Democrats adopted the “culture of corruption” meme as their campaign theme earlier this year, we noted that the culture hardly respected party lines. The leader of the Senate Democratic caucus, Harry Reid, took contributions from clients of Jack Abramoff and intervened on their behalf at least four times, and Abramoff hired one of Reid’s staffers and started holding fundraisers for the Senate Minority Leader in Abramoff’s offices.

Now COGirl at Hang Right Politics points us towards a Los Angeles Times report on the “culture of corruption” surrounding Harry Reid and a new real-estate development outside of Las Vegas. Reid has intervened on behalf of a powerful developer to gain government concessions while the developer puts money into Reid’s campaigns — and pays Reid’s sons’ salaries:

One of the most inhospitable places in the country, Coyote Springs Valley is so barren that, until recently, its best use was thought to be as a weapons test range.Yet the valley — an hour northeast of Las Vegas — is on its way to becoming a real estate development of historic proportions, with as many as 159,000 homes, 16 golf courses and a full complement of stores and service facilities. At nearly 43,000 acres, Coyote Springs covers almost twice as much space as the next-largest development in a state famous for outsized building projects. …

Over the last four years, Reid has used his influence in Washington to help the developer, Nevada super-lobbyist [Harvey] Whittemore, clear obstacles from Coyote Springs’ path.

At one point, Reid proposed opening the way for Whittemore to develop part of the site for free — something for which the developer later agreed to pay the government $10 million.

As the project advanced, Reid received tens of thousands of dollars in campaign contributions from Whittemore. The contributions not only went to Reid’s Senate campaigns, but also to his leadership fund, which he used to help bankroll the campaigns of Democratic colleagues.

Whittemore also helped advance the legal careers of two of Reid’s four sons. One of the two, Leif Reid, who is Whittemore’s personal lawyer, has represented the developer throughout the Coyote Springs project, including in negotiations with federal officials.

The story of Coyote Springs sounds like a Horatio Alger story. The land Whittemore bought in 1998 from a defense contractor who intended on using it for target practice had a number of restrictions on its use. A quarter of it was subject to a federal power-line right of way. Another quarter had federal protection for the desert tortoise, an endangered species that also is Nevada’s official state reptile. The land had a fragile series of streams and washes that required special permission on which to build without ruining the desert’s ecosystem.

None of these obstacles proved too difficult for Whittemore, at least not while he had his friend Harry Reid running interference in Congress. Interior refused to relocate the tortoises for over five years, until the Bureau of Land Management agreed to swap the land for another parcel abutting a federal preserve elsewhere. No one ever did an analysis to determine whether the deal was fair to either party, nor did the BLM go to Congress for approval on the changes to a project that Congress had explicitly legislated.

In 2002, Reid worked on the power corridor. He inserted obscure provisions into a land management bill that relocated the power corridor, freeing Whittemore to build on the 10,500 acres that Congress had previously held — which means that someone else now had to lose property value for Whittemore’s benefit, and for no cost whatsoever. That bald move caused raised eyebrows at the BLM and the Senate’s Energy and Natural Resources Committee, and Reid backed away — for the moment. Less than two years later, Reid tried again to give Whittemore the land for a song ($160,000), but Congress balked again. He finally settled for freeing the land for development and allowing Whittemore to buy it at a fair market rate, and forcing the government to relocate the power corridor.

In 2005, Reid and fellow Nevada Senator John Ensign conducted a series of interventions with the EPA to eliminate the final obstacle — the environmental impact on the fragile ecosystem in Coyote Springs Valley. When the agency blocked Whittemore’s efforts, Reid and Ensign held several meetings with EPA officials to pressure them into submission. Whittemore used another Reid son, Lief, to lobby his father’s office for assistance. In the end, the pressure paid off, as the EPA backed down from its opposition after winning a few concessions on the development plan.

What did Reid get in exchange for all of this support? According to the Times, Whittemore contributed $45,000 to Reid and his PACs since 2000. He also gave the DSCC $20,000 in 2000, when it pushed Reid as a leader for the party in the Senate. Reid’s son Josh got $5,000 for his unsuccessful campaign for a city council seat; his other sone Rory got $5,000 for his successful effort to win a spot on the Clark County Board of Commissioners.

Money talks. And Harry Reid walks. If you wondered why the Democrats have abandoned the corruption theme for these midterm elections, now you know.


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Just 3 words . . . Reid is scum.

rplat on August 6, 2012 at 11:24 AM

None of this is hurting Obama or helping Mitt Romney. When Romney defenders go before the press interviewers inevitably ask “but wait, wouldn’t this be a non-issue if Romney released the tax returns?” Drip, drip, drip. Harry Reid isn’t going to sink Obama’s campaign, in fact the President is enjoying a bump even in Rasmussen. Its pretty masterful Chicago style politics. Get an unlikable attack dog to do the dirty work, watch the other side froth and freak out. See your own poll numbers increase.

Oh and the new Obama ad which uses the Wall Street Journal and the Tax Policy Center’s report on his middle class tax increases is *devastating* This election may be over barring something catastrophic.

libfreeordie on August 6, 2012 at 11:25 AM

When will Obama throw these “Taxers” under the bus?

wildcat72 on August 6, 2012 at 11:26 AM

Joe McCarthy may have been abrasive and perhaps exaggerated things, but he wasn’t wrong about communists at the State Dept.

Harry Reid (who refuses to address growing accusations that he’s a pederast) is a bitter old fool, possibly suffering from the early stages of dementia, and a crook. And quite likely a serial child molester.

Rixon on August 6, 2012 at 11:27 AM

May this result in scrutiny of Reid and Pelosi. They are among the scummiest pols in recent times.

John the Libertarian on August 6, 2012 at 11:28 AM

How is this corruption less important to the media than Mitt Romney’s HS report card? All I can say is the people of Nevada must be pretty damned stupid to keep this filthy scumbag in the Senate.

If nothing else, this little tale of influence peddling and insider dealmaking goes to the character of Harry Reid. We should not believe anything he says on the floor of the Senate when he clearly is just your typical Democrat- on the take and not particularly worried about hiding the fact that he will legislate for $$$$.

Happy Nomad on August 6, 2012 at 11:28 AM

libfreeordie on August 6, 2012 at 11:25 AM

When is El Presidente Downgrade going to prove that he’s not culpable to the Felonies in the Gunwalkergate scandal?

Chip on August 6, 2012 at 11:28 AM

Oh and the new Obama ad which uses the Wall Street Journal and the Tax Policy Center’s report on his middle class tax increases is *devastating* This election may be over barring something catastrophic.

libfreeordie on August 6, 2012 at 11:25 AM

O_O

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You just keep thinking that, Little Miss Sunshine, meanwhile the rest of the nation is experiencing the full-frontal effects of Bark’s economic acumen.

Bishop on August 6, 2012 at 11:29 AM

Guy Benson concluded over the weekend that the White House had to have approved this line of attack:

Obama isn’t lifting a finger to put an end to this slanderous side-show because his campaign specifically gave Reid the green light to launch these baseless attacks. Politico reports:

Of course Mr. Obama green-lighted this. The Romney campaign has struck a nerve with “You Didn’t Build That” and is running the table and doing swirlies on Axlerod’s head with it. The O Campaign is backed into a corner and they’ve unleashed Harry Reid, a Snake, to fight their way out of it. It’s smoke and mirrors on the tax returns and it clearly shows that the O campaign is on the ropes, bleeding, and taking punch combos on a daily basis. It’s no wonder that Harry Reid, a former boxer, has been cut loose with such a baseless attack. First, he’ll do it. Second, he has nothing to lose.

ted c on August 6, 2012 at 11:30 AM

O_O

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You just keep thinking that, Little Miss Sunshine, meanwhile the rest of the nation is experiencing the full-frontal effects of Bark’s economic acumen.

Bishop on August 6, 2012 at 11:29 AM

I know more about rocket science than Obama knows about the economy. And my math grades sucked.

wildcat72 on August 6, 2012 at 11:31 AM

You just keep thinking that, Little Miss Sunshine, meanwhile the rest of the nation is experiencing the full-frontal effects of Bark’s economic acumen.

Bishop on August 6, 2012 at 11:29 AM

^ Methinks that would qualify as something castastrophic.

MelonCollie on August 6, 2012 at 11:31 AM

Reid isn’t up for reelection, his mission is to divert and distract from the little child yellow streak all of the democrats share but mostly his far left President.

Speakup on August 6, 2012 at 11:31 AM

Oh and the new Obama ad which uses the Wall Street Journal and the Tax Policy Center’s report on his middle class tax increases is *devastating* This election may be over barring something catastrophic.

libfreeordie on August 6, 2012 at 11:25 AM

You are so full of it, I can’t help but laughing at your idiocy. Obama is so desperate that he’s seeking to disenfranchise the military vote in Ohio. His DoJ is attempting to thwart individuals having to show that they are legally eligible to vote. He’s attacking the First Amendment to pander to the slut vote.

And despite all of that you think the jug-eared Kenyan is going to win in a landslide. Just too pathetic for words!

Happy Nomad on August 6, 2012 at 11:32 AM

“Look: In 1950 Joe McCarthy went to West Virginia, didn’t know what to tell the Women’s Republican Club of Wheeling, West Virginia,” Will explained. “So he said, ‘I have in my hand a list of 205 — we think — 205 communists in State Department.”

George Will is an imbecile of the lowest order. Unlike Reid, history has proven that Senator Joesph McCarthy was 100 percent right. If George will had 2 functional brain cells in his head he would notice that their is a MARXIST living at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

SWalker on August 6, 2012 at 11:32 AM

I know more about rocket science than Obama knows about the economy. And my math grades sucked.

wildcat72 on August 6, 2012 at 11:31 AM

So did Obama’s apparently.

Happy Nomad on August 6, 2012 at 11:33 AM

Its pretty masterful Chicago style politics. Get an unlikable attack dog to do the dirty work, watch the other side froth and freak out. See your own poll numbers increase.

libfreeordie on August 6, 2012 at 11:25 AM

So it’ perfectly acceptable to you that that we have a Preezy of the United Steezy using thug tactics in order to win.

Is there ANYTHING that El Presidente Downgrade might use that is out of bounds for you?

Chip on August 6, 2012 at 11:34 AM

I know more about rocket science than Obama knows about the economy. And my math grades sucked.

wildcat72 on August 6, 2012 at 11:31 AM

We should compare your grades against those of President Oba….wait…oh that’s right.

Bishop on August 6, 2012 at 11:35 AM

Political ad:

There are more tax cheats in the presidential cabinet, then name them

There were more tax cheats in the running for presidential cabinet, then name them

Obama, did he save or create those jobs???

skeeterbite on August 6, 2012 at 11:36 AM

The difference is that McCarthy was right.

Shump on August 6, 2012 at 11:37 AM

Its pretty masterful Chicago style politics. Get an unlikable attack dog to do the dirty work, watch the other side froth and freak out. See your own poll numbers increase.

libfreeordie on August 6, 2012 at 11:25 AM

Must be that new tone that Bark promised to bring to Washington. Of course Barka promised all sorts of things that didn’t happen so this is not a surprise. *perusing today’s unemployment rate numbers*

He must be pissed that Romney doesn’t have any divorce records that can be unsealed, coincidentally right before the election.

Bishop on August 6, 2012 at 11:38 AM

I know more about rocket science than Obama knows about the economy. And my math grades sucked.

wildcat72 on August 6, 2012 at 11:31 AM

We should compare your grades against those of President Oba….wait…oh that’s right.

Bishop on August 6, 2012 at 11:35 AM

Well now, that might be unfair to the dear liar – he may know plenty on how to bring down an economy.

Chip on August 6, 2012 at 11:38 AM

Guy Benson concluded over the weekend that the White House had to have approved this line of attack

Gee, you think? There are two MOs with Obama and Axelrod. One, destroy or disqualify the other candidate so you can run virtually unopposed. And two, use surrogates and proxies to smear your enemies so you can pretend to be the adult in the room.

I think a lot of people(although far from enough) have caught onto this routine. The best thing Romney and his surrogates can do is lump in Obama with Reid when denouncing these baseless accusations. If Obama doesn’t want to be associated with it, he can tell Reid publicly to knock it off. If he refuses, then his silence makes him complicit.

Doughboy on August 6, 2012 at 11:38 AM

Liberals are idiots…their supporters are idiots…too bad for Reid and Obama independents aren’t idiots.

Sometimes they just go too far with their BS.

cajunpatriot on August 6, 2012 at 11:39 AM

Is there ANYTHING that El Presidente Downgrade might use that is out of bounds for you?

Chip on August 6, 2012 at 11:34 AM

Have you seen any indication that the jug-eared Kenyan even has boundaries. Keep in mind this is a filthy liar who keeps quoting bogus “independent” studies about how wonderful his socialist schemes are working. He has the Senate Majority Leader lying from the floor of the Senate. He clearly structured Solyndra and the UAW bailout to raise campaign cash. He’s out there suggesting that people should have Obama on their wedding and maternity registries.

The concern trolls like Libfree will defend anything Obama does no matter how low, unethical, or illegal.

Happy Nomad on August 6, 2012 at 11:42 AM

McCarthyism? More like Charlie McCarthyism. Or, actually, Mortimer Snerdism.

(For most HA readers, who are way too young to have heard of them, the above were two goofy puppets run by Edgar Bergen, Candace Bergen’s dad, in the 1940′s and 1950′s.)

Scriptor on August 6, 2012 at 11:42 AM

George Will and Ann Coulter give legitimacy to the 9-11 Truther/Commie Van Jones, just by appearing on the panel with him.

Disgusting.

faraway on August 6, 2012 at 11:42 AM

Its pretty masterful Chicago style politics. Get an unlikable attack dog to do the dirty work, watch the other side froth and freak out. See your own poll numbers increase.

libfreeordie on August 6, 2012 at 11:25 AM

I suppose when all of your ideas have failed, when your ideology is proven to be bankrupt and useless, when you can’t lead or point to any accomplishments, this is considered “masterful” or “good” by your idiot supporters.

Good to see you enjoy failure so much.

Monkeytoe on August 6, 2012 at 11:42 AM

The difference is that McCarthy was right.

Shump on August 6, 2012 at 11:37 AM

McCarthy was a crackpot on a permanent LSD trip that made him hallucinate Communists behind every rock during the Cold War, which of course made him a hero to the right. “He’s a Communist! She’s a Commiunist! They’re all Communists! Blahrahrahaaaarg!!!”

When he was right, it was in the manner of a blind squirrel finding nuts, which McFarthy lacked in the first place. Flinging accusations of Commie-love at the height of the Red Scare is about as courageous as accusing an old lady of witchcraft during the Salem trials.

MelonCollie on August 6, 2012 at 11:43 AM

Bark authorized American guns to be given to Mexican drug lords in an attempt to undermine the 2nd Amendment.

Libfreeordie is at this very moment furiously pounding on the White House front gate demanding that Bark prove otherwise, I mean the accusation is out there and must be addressed.

Bishop on August 6, 2012 at 11:43 AM

He must be pissed that Romney doesn’t have any divorce records that can be unsealed, coincidentally right before the election.

Bishop on August 6, 2012 at 11:38 AM

And if only Ann Romney had an ancient auto accident in her past that could be trotted out.

Happy Nomad on August 6, 2012 at 11:44 AM

Is there ANYTHING that El Presidente Downgrade might use that is out of bounds for you?

Chip on August 6, 2012 at 11:34 AM

Have you seen any indication that the jug-eared Kenyan even has boundaries. Keep in mind this is a filthy liar who keeps quoting bogus “independent” studies about how wonderful his socialist schemes are working. He has the Senate Majority Leader lying from the floor of the Senate. He clearly structured Solyndra and the UAW bailout to raise campaign cash. He’s out there suggesting that people should have Obama on their wedding and maternity registries.

The concern trolls like Libfree will defend anything Obama does no matter how low, unethical, or illegal.

Happy Nomad on August 6, 2012 at 11:42 AM

So far, it would seem like anything goes for those of the National Socialist Left in their quest to loot the country.

I just wanted to know if there were any boundaries on behavior for libfreeordie – or is it a sliding scale depending on the Left’s desperation levels?

What say you libfreeordie?

Chip on August 6, 2012 at 11:48 AM

Flinging accusations of Commie-love at the height of the Red Scare is about as courageous as accusing an old lady of witchcraft during the Salem trials.

MelonCollie on August 6, 2012 at 11:43 AM

You’re having some logic fail.

There are no witches.

There are Communists. Lots of them. Billions of them.

faraway on August 6, 2012 at 11:48 AM

Don’t call this McCarthyism. McCarthy actually had evidence.

FishingwFredo on August 6, 2012 at 11:49 AM

libfreeordie on August 6, 2012 at 11:25 AM

Are you happy that the hopey, changey President has been reduced to having his lackeys cause nonsensical distractions with juvenile hearsay and ridiculous slander (the “dignified” leaders of the party in their respective chambers)?

It seems to me something catastrophic has already occurred once that becomes the standard, but you seem pleased with this as a game plan. Is that true? Do you like having these three characters as the representative face of the Democratic Party, and do you like the tone and direction of the campaign they seem bent on running?

BlueCollarAstronaut on August 6, 2012 at 11:49 AM

I am an idiot that swallowed the liberal boogieman story

MelonCollie on August 6, 2012 at 11:43 AM

I humbly suggest you read M. Stanton Evans prodigiously footnoted “Blacklisted by History” so that you may have a clue before expressing another sentiment on the matter. With all the documentary evidence laid out including the decrypts from Venona, the total number of individuals McCarthy was wrong about was… ONE.

Think about it. Can you imagine the country we’d live in if our congress critters today were right 200+ times more often than they are wrong??

CapnObvious on August 6, 2012 at 11:50 AM

Harry Reid’s high stakes comments are dirty pool but also kind of brilliant. There’s clearly some reason Romney hasn’t released his tax returns. It’s probably for some reason that would be mildly embarrassing but quickly forgotten. Yet by not releasing them at all, he may make some believe Reid was right.

It’s underhanded, unfair and possibly slanderous, but it placed Romney (not Reid) in a no-win, so politically, it’s probably a great strategy.

YYZ on August 6, 2012 at 11:51 AM

Yesterday I said:

Until Obama releases his college and graduate/law school grade transcripts, Romney should not be under ANY compulsion to release his tax returns.
Fair is fair.
Yiwen on August 5, 2012 at 6:19 PM

But I like the way RightConcept said it much better:

So is Milque-Taost going to hit back hard? Is the GOP?
When are they going to start demanding Obama release his college transcripts?
Reid gave them the perfect opening.
Hello?
Bueller?
Bueller?
rightConcept on August 6, 2012 at 3:14 AM

Yiwen on August 6, 2012 at 11:51 AM

Um, except that McCarthy was, you know… right.

Midas on August 6, 2012 at 11:53 AM

Team Obama is calling the shots on this. This is the “Chicago Technique” (using surrogates) to smear opponents-Jack Ryan in the Illinois Senate Primary, both Bill and Hilary Clinton in the Democratic Primary, Both John McCain and Sarah Palin in the Presidential race.

Technique-Use surrogates-eg-’NY Times’ against McCain (infidelity), Harry Reid against Romney (tax cheating.)–The rationale is this–Tell a big, totally unsubstantiated lie without one scintilla of proof. Public reaction: Only a fool would make totally unverified charges and stick with them, THEREFOR THE CHARGES MUST BE TRUE! This has always worked for Obama.

MaiDee on August 6, 2012 at 11:53 AM

As for the witch trials nonsense, repeat after me:

HOUSE Un-American Activities Committee

SENATOR Joe McCarthy

CapnObvious on August 6, 2012 at 11:53 AM

libfreeordie on August 6, 2012 at 11:25 AM

*points and laughs*

Wow, you’re an idiot. Please, seriously – get out of education. Think of the children and do them a favor, eh?

Midas on August 6, 2012 at 11:55 AM

I’m having some logic fail.

faraway on August 6, 2012 at 11:48 AM

FTFY.

McCarthy’s tactics in a nutshell: fling accusations of being Communist at the slightest provocation, in a time when nuclear war with a Communist nation was a very real possibility.

He wasn’t a hero, unlike the brave men in the armed forces who got shot at by real Communists carrying guns. He just stumbled on a way to get promoted to Right-Wing Saint for acting like the spiteful lunatic he was.

MelonCollie on August 6, 2012 at 11:56 AM

From the Politico story:

One downside for Reid is that this could be the start of a poisonous relationship between the country’s two most powerful Mormon politicians, something that could make it profoundly more difficult to establish trust and cut deals in a narrowly divided Congress — if Romney wins the White House.

Establish trust–yeah, right. And I thought we wanted to stop the cutting of deals and actually reach true consensus, if that’s possible, but it’s a way better concept than the corrupt deals of the current admin. And hey, since the Repubs are taking the Senate, why would President Romney even have to deal much with Senate minority leader Reidiculous?

stukinIL4now on August 6, 2012 at 11:56 AM

Silly Harry
-lsm

cmsinaz on August 6, 2012 at 11:56 AM

I am a reichwing jackass with a lower IQ than plantlife

CapnObvious on August 6, 2012 at 11:50 AM

Up yours, ‘captain’.

MelonCollie on August 6, 2012 at 11:57 AM

MelonCollie on August 6, 2012 at 11:43 AM

Ouch, does it hurt to be so completely clueless of fact, reality, *and* proven history? Seriously, you’re deeply embarrassing yourself and apparently don’t know that what you’re saying is factually, demonstrably, historically FALSE.

Please, do some reading.

Midas on August 6, 2012 at 11:59 AM

MelonCollie on August 6, 2012 at 11:43 AM

I humbly suggest you read M. Stanton Evans prodigiously footnoted “Blacklisted by History” so that you may have a clue before expressing another sentiment on the matter. With all the documentary evidence laid out including the decrypts from Venona, the total number of individuals McCarthy was wrong about was… ONE.

Think about it. Can you imagine the country we’d live in if our congress critters today were right 200+ times more often than they are wrong??

CapnObvious on August 6, 2012 at 11:50 AM

He still hasn’t figured out that their is a MARXIST currently residing at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, nor can he figure out how that happened.

SWalker on August 6, 2012 at 11:59 AM

PS the Chicago Technique ONLY works when you have the MSM in your pocket-unwilling to do investigative reporting to expose these lies. The Republicans could never get away with this.

MaiDee on August 6, 2012 at 11:59 AM

OT: Why are they shouting “Tebow” in the Olympic table tennis gold match?

faraway on August 6, 2012 at 12:00 PM

The timing of his rant is curious…just a couple days before the terrible jobs report. They knew it was coming and needed a deflection. Thanks Harry! More “Shiny Object” politics.

Let’s get off this CRAP and focus on the 8.3%!

blowing smoke on August 6, 2012 at 12:00 PM

Ouch, does it hurt to be so completely clueless of fact, reality, *and* proven history?

Why don’t you tell us, pumpkin, it must be interesting.

MelonCollie on August 6, 2012 at 12:00 PM

MelonCollie on August 6, 2012 at 11:56 AM

You have forgotten to take your clozapine again…

SWalker on August 6, 2012 at 12:01 PM

Harry Reid’s high stakes comments are dirty pool but also kind of brilliant. There’s clearly some reason Romney hasn’t released his tax returns. It’s probably for some reason that would be mildly embarrassing but quickly forgotten. Yet by not releasing them at all, he may make some believe Reid was right.

It’s underhanded, unfair and possibly slanderous, but it placed Romney (not Reid) in a no-win, so politically, it’s probably a great strategy.

YYZ on August 6, 2012 at 11:51 AM

You know the saying “give them an inch, they’ll take a mile”? Romney knows if he gives them additional tax returns, they keep demanding even more information from him. It’ll never be enough for the Dems. And the reason they’ll keep wanting more info is so A)they can try to dig up any dirt they can on Romney and B)they can make the election about him and his wealth instead of Obama’s record.

Doughboy on August 6, 2012 at 12:01 PM

*points and laughs*

a.k.a. schnitzengiggles

And hey, since the Repubs are taking the Senate, why would President Romney even have to deal much with Senate minority leader Reidiculous?

Exactly. Reid is nuclear waste now anyway and he will be put away come January 2013.

gracie on August 6, 2012 at 12:01 PM

Gas is going back up…

… Food prices are going through the roof.

We are still +$16 Trillion in debt with another +$100 Trillion in unfunded liabilities around the corner…

… The damage done to this Nation is a direct result of Obowma’s policies, regulations, and Executive Orders.

Facts about ‘Fast and Furious’, Solyndra, et al., lead directly to the White House…

… and the ‘Press’ is allowing Harry Reid to suck all of the oxegen out of the room.

I think someone might want to remind Team Romney what is at stake and to stop keep putting his Mittens on…

Seven Percent Solution on August 6, 2012 at 12:02 PM

He still hasn’t figured out that their is a MARXIST currently residing at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave,

More ASSumption.

Obama is a REAL Communist in a REAL position of power. As opposed to a tea-time froo-froo ‘Hollywood Communist’ who are only a threat because people are dumb enough to believe anything they see on the idiot box.

nor can he figure out how that happened.

SWalker on August 6, 2012 at 11:59 AM

He won the 2012 elections.

But you knew that already, hayseed.

MelonCollie on August 6, 2012 at 12:04 PM

I think someone might want to remind Team Romney what is at stake and to stop keep putting his Mittens on…

Seven Percent Solution on August 6, 2012 at 12:02 PM

Romney is legally constrained until Aug 31st regarding advertisement spending.

SWalker on August 6, 2012 at 12:04 PM

You have forgotten to take your clozapine again…

SWalker on August 6, 2012 at 12:01 PM

Go take some clozamouth.

MelonCollie on August 6, 2012 at 12:05 PM

SWalker on August 6, 2012 at 11:59 AM

He won the 2012 elections.

But you knew that already, hayseed.

MelonCollie on August 6, 2012 at 12:04 PM

Yea… Right…

SWalker on August 6, 2012 at 12:05 PM

Ouch, does it hurt to be so completely clueless of fact, reality, *and* proven history?

Why don’t you tell us, pumpkin, it must be interesting.

MelonCollie on August 6, 2012 at 12:00 PM

One of us is arguing contra-facts, and it ain’t me, bub. By all means, continue to show yourself to be a fool. Rant on, nutter.

Midas on August 6, 2012 at 12:05 PM

Who is that peanut shaped head on the panel that also shows up all the time on Moaning Joe? Is the little dude tedious or what?

DanMan on August 6, 2012 at 12:05 PM

YYZ on August 6, 2012 at 11:51 AM

Yes, we see how highly esteemed the “birthers” are to this day…To be fair, though, it was only something super-secret like the paperwork required for many job applications that Obama was stubborn and difficult about, and not something truly important and innocuous like an arbitrary set of tax returns.

I’m sure people will forget the horrible state of the economy and will gladly forgive Obama and his associates — who have otherwise been so positive and and eager to highlight their myriad accomplishments — for this slight detour into negative territory since it’s for something so vital as this.

BlueCollarAstronaut on August 6, 2012 at 12:08 PM

One of us is arguing contra-facts, and it ain’t me, bub. By all means, continue to show yourself to be a fool. Rant on, nutter.

Midas on August 6, 2012 at 12:05 PM

You may be completely delusional about history, but you’re a master at projection. Keep showing yourself to be a rightwing nutjob.

MelonCollie on August 6, 2012 at 12:08 PM

Yes, we see how highly esteemed the “birthers” are to this day…

BlueCollarAstronaut on August 6, 2012 at 12:08 PM

Don’t be too hasty. They are now where the McCarthyists were after the frenzy was over. Give them another 50 years and t hey’ll be remembered as heroes and martyrs (not literally I pray); champions of a Just Cause where They Were Right and everyone else wasn’t…

Instead of being remembered for what they really are: a dog’s breakfast of peewee-league racists and sore losers bitterly clinging to a tinfoil-hat theory.

MelonCollie on August 6, 2012 at 12:12 PM

At worst, Reid has only shown that Romney is 2 1/2 times more admirable than our esteemed Secretary of the Treasury, Timothy Geithner, who as I recall, couldn’t be bothered filing tax returns for four years … prior to his being confirmed as Secretary of the Treasury, yet (which controls the IRS.)

Scriptor on August 6, 2012 at 12:13 PM

FTFY.

McCarthy’s tactics in a nutshell: fling accusations of being Communist at the slightest provocation, in a time when nuclear war with a Communist nation was a very real possibility.

He wasn’t a hero, unlike the brave men in the armed forces who got shot at by real Communists carrying guns. He just stumbled on a way to get promoted to Right-Wing Saint for acting like the spiteful lunatic he was.

MelonCollie on August 6, 2012 at 11:56 AM

There wasn’t the “slightest” provocation. You have no idea what you are talking about. Just as one example I’m sure you’re not aware of, an individual working for the State Department who was suspected and later proven to be a Communist was largely responsible for the US Government’s abandonment of Chiang Kai Shek during China’s post-WW2 civil war, which led to Mao’s victory and China turning Communist.

Also, McCarthy never purported to be a hero of any kind. In point of fact, however, McCarthy was a Marine Corps aviator who participated in numerous combat flights during WW2. Please, don’t discuss things you are not familiar with. Your lack of knowledge shows.

JoeShmoe99 on August 6, 2012 at 12:16 PM

Midas on August 6, 2012 at 12:05 PM

You may be completely delusional about history, but you’re a master at projection. Keep showing yourself to be a rightwing nutjob.

MelonCollie on August 6, 2012 at 12:08 PM

<——- The delusion is strong with this one…

SWalker on August 6, 2012 at 12:20 PM

Joe McCarthy Was Right
Reed Irvine and Cliff Kincaid — February 22, 2000

At the recent conference on “Rethinking McCarthy,” veteran journalist M. Stanton Evans disputed a number of myths about the Senator that have been accepted by leading historians and media figures. Evans, the director of the National Journalism Center who is writing his own book on Senator Joseph McCarthy, said one of the most notorious myths is that the Wisconsin Senator never named any names of suspected communists in government. Holding up a file of material, Evans said, “Here are the names. Right here. Anybody who wants to can look at them.” He produced a letter that McCarthy sent to Senator Millard Tydings in 1950 in which he listed the names.

The original list, which included numbers of cases and not names, was obtained by McCarthy after it was put together by congressional staffers. It was drawn from the files of the State Department itself. But McCarthy provided the cases to Tydings with the names attached. Critics have said over the years that the list was either outdated, blown out of proportion, that the individuals named were cleared by congressional committees, or that they were just mildly leftist. But none of that was true. Evans quoted from some of them: “…he furnished material to a known Soviet espionage agent…” and “…He is a known Communist Party member.”

Evans said the biggest piece of disinformation was that these cases had been cleared by congressional hearings. This was false. The chairman of one committee said the information showed “a large number of communists on the rolls of the State Department.” He added, “It makes me wonder if there is any representation of the United States in the State Department.”

McCarthy also had access to information about Amerasia, a pro-Communist magazine, and State Department diplomat John Stewart Service, who was arrested for passing classified information to its editor. In a major speech, McCarthy called the Justice Department failure to prosecute the case a massive cover-up. “We now know that he was 100 percent correct,” Evans said of McCarthy?s charges. The FBI wiretapped the meeting where the cover-up was planned and the case was fixed to get Service off. Playing a role in the cover-up was Soviet agent Laughlin Currie in the White House. He was a key adviser to President Franklin Roosevelt.

Another McCarthy target, Owen Lattimore of the Institute for Pacific Relations, was supposedly investigated by the Tydings Committee, which found nothing incriminating in his FBI files. But Evans read from that file, page one, which said back in 1941 that Lattimore was a communist who should be detained in the event of a national emergency.

All of this mattered for two reasons. One, some of these people engaged in espionage for the Soviet Union. Two, they manipulated U.S. foreign policy to the benefit of the communists. For example, they maneuvered to cut off aid to the Chinese nationalists in order to betray China to the communists. This betrayal left mainland China in the hands of the Communists and the nationalists fled to the island of Taiwan. More than 50 years later, the betrayal continues under the Clinton Administration. But Senator Joe McCarthy tried to prevent it.

McCarthy was quite specific in his charges, having cited 59 suspected communists in the State Department. He produced that list, plus 22 others. McCarthy helped uncover a communist spy ring involving Foreign Service officer John Stewart Service and Philip Jaffe, the editor of Amerasia, a pro-communist magazine. He targeted Owen Lattimore, a key State Department adviser and a Communist. McCarthy�s charge against Mary Jane Keeney, a Soviet agent who served as a State Department employee at the U.N., was proven correct. McCarthy was right about Annie Lee Moss, an army code clerk who was proven to be a member of the Communist Party.

In addition to Service, other State Department China hands who gave aid and comfort to the Communists were John Paton Davies, Edmund Clubb and John Carter Vincent. Soviet agents in high positions included Harry Hopkins, who was so close to FDR that he lived in the White House, Laughlin Currie, an economist who was a top Roosevelt aide, and Alger Hiss, a high State Department official who was at FDR�s elbow at Yalta and a key figure in getting the U.N. started.

On May 5, NBC News correspondent Pete Williams aired a report about the transcripts of the closed-door McCarthy hearings. He focused on another alleged innocent victim of the senator. Williams claimed that McCarthy had unfairly singled out composer Aaron Copland for scrutiny. Williams said that Copland, when asked about Soviet policies replied, �I spend my days writing symphonies, concertos, ballads, and I am not a political thinker.� Williams said Copland �was never called to testify in public,� suggesting he was completely innocent of charges that he had Communist connections.

SWalker on August 6, 2012 at 12:27 PM

Another McCarthy target, Owen Lattimore of the Institute for Pacific Relations, was supposedly investigated by the Tydings Committee, which found nothing incriminating in his FBI files. But Evans read from that file, page one, which said back in 1941 that Lattimore was a communist who should be detained in the event of a national emergency.

Frank Marshall Davis was in the same category.

Akzed on August 6, 2012 at 12:34 PM

You may be completely delusional about history, but you’re a master at projection. Keep showing yourself to be a rightwing nutjob.MelonCollie on August 6, 2012 at 12:08 PM

I guess calling those you have disagreements with Rightwing NeoCons is passe’ now, nutjobs today what will tomorrow bring.

D-fusit on August 6, 2012 at 12:34 PM

So this is what America has come to. You can now accuse anyone of anything and just claim “reliable sources” and thy are expected to prove their innocence. Where does it stop? If Mitt Romney wants to play this game, what accusations will he make against Obama? There is still supposed to be a presumption of innocence afforded all Americans. If we allow ourselves to go down this path, we will be opening a Pandora’s box with no end in sight. If you don’t like your neighbor, just claim a “reliable source” gave you the information and have the police investigate them

bandutski on August 6, 2012 at 12:34 PM

When you grow up in Searchlight Nevada, you are basically ducked(typo)in the head.

Hummer53 on August 6, 2012 at 12:37 PM

Just 3 words . . . Reid is scum.

rplat on August 6, 2012 at 11:24 AM

“HEY! THAT’S FOR WORDS!!!!”
~Signed,
Joe “JOBS” Biden
(yes, I purposely spelled “FOUR” wrong just as Old Joe would’ve)

Strike Hornet on August 6, 2012 at 12:42 PM

Dan Rather chimes in on the Reid accusations:
“Fake…..but accurate!!!!!”

Strike Hornet on August 6, 2012 at 12:44 PM

My suspicion is that Romney is living in the Obama Campaign’s heads rent free…. and letting them get heavily invested in the meme’. Then, he slaps them in the face with their stupidity and makes them look like the idiots they are.

This isn’t Romney’s first rodeo. If his campaign has done their homework on the Obama Modus Operandi, they’ve already anticipated and destroyed every argument long before it’s tossed on the media bonfire. He’s already held a governor’s office, this isn’t his first run at the White House and he was vetted for Veep in 2008. Those records have already been through the finest of fine tooth combs.

2nd Ammendment Mother on August 6, 2012 at 12:47 PM

The ruthless Senate majority leader

RUTHLESS + HARRY REID is like MACHO + DON KNOTTS!

pilamaye on August 6, 2012 at 12:57 PM

FYI — the usual suspects showing up to declare how “masterful” Reid’s transparent hackery is are obviously only doing so to collect their $7 from OFA — even they aren’t stupid enough to believe it’s working.

And really, we shouldn’t begrudge them that money — times are hard & the local Choom dealer doesn’t accept EBT cards. But I, personally, wouldn’t waste my time debating them. The name of Obama’s game is trying to depress GOP turnout. It’s the only chance he has because it isn’t easy to commit voter fraud when you need more than 5% of the vote.

Dark Star on August 6, 2012 at 1:12 PM

None of this is hurting Obama or helping Mitt Romney. When Romney defenders go before the press interviewers inevitably ask “but wait, wouldn’t this be a non-issue if Romney released the tax returns?” Drip, drip, drip. Harry Reid isn’t going to sink Obama’s campaign, in fact the President is enjoying a bump even in Rasmussen. Its pretty masterful Chicago style politics. Get an unlikable attack dog to do the dirty work, watch the other side froth and freak out. See your own poll numbers increase.

Oh and the new Obama ad which uses the Wall Street Journal and the Tax Policy Center’s report on his middle class tax increases is *devastating* This election may be over barring something catastrophic.

libfreeordie on August 6, 2012 at 11:25 AM

Oh, the low life, low IQ, liberal scum is opining with more stupidity. So what you are telling us liberal scum is that it is great to lie in politics if it would achieve something, well that is not a surprise for any of us because we know how liberal operates. However, only in your delusional world you delude yourself that the lies about Romney taxes are working against Romney when in reality they are not and soon enough they will be a huge backfire on Obama due to the Romney tax issue. As I told you many times before, but your tiny brain cannot accept this absolute fact, that this election is not going to about Romney Bain Capital or Romney taxes, but it will only about one thing and that is Obama utter failed record as a President… A majority of voters are going to ask themselves before voting “Do we want 4 more years of this crap” and their answer would be a resounding “No, hell No”….

mnjg on August 6, 2012 at 1:16 PM

Reid is a tool — I know. We could just stop there. — of the Left and totally in the bag for the Administration. This is so transparently a cheap gambit. Like in chess, you sacrifice a little on the chance of gaining a lot. The microscopic material the players pulling Reid’s strings are risking here are his self-respect and honor. Nearly non-existent, yes, so not much at risk, really. The dignity of the office is not part of the equation.

The goal is to make Romney give in, sure. Then they’ll conveniently ignore the actual taxes paid or any other detail of the returns and laser-focus in on what totals up from the earnings lines. With their owned-and-operated media division gleefully amplifying they can then squeal “Look at how much he made! Tsk.” That’s all.

This will resonate with the “Fat Cat-hater” bloc. We all know a few of those. People whose sum total understanding of economics and capitalism can be summarized in the statements you hear them mutter, often: “It’s who you know.” and “It’s a racket.” It’s a Democrat-favoring group. Democrats fear they may be losing this reliable bloc. With good reason. Scads of them are unemployed now and they can see a lot of “It’s who you know.” and “It’s really a racket.” in the Administration’s taxpayer-funded cronyism.

“Look at how much Romney made!” It’s no more complicated than that. They wouldn’t even have to explain it to Reid, of course. He’s like the gang flunky who’ll do anything you ask. But if they did explain it to him there’s a chance even someone as dim as he would grasp it. And he is dim.

Americans aren’t envious of others’ wealth. They want to work hard and get some of their own. It’s getting less and less possible. Mrs. Space started a business a couple years ago where she had one employee. Had to let the gal go. Even at that scale the requirements of multiple levels of government made it not worthwhile. Too bad. The young lady could have used the job. The missus carried on alone and the plans to go beyond the two were permanently shelved.

From the Left this is just one more blunt instrument. From the Right this is tied up with the fundamentals of American liberty and opportunity. Romney’d be foolish to give in. Will he be able to resist? Not holding breath.

curved space on August 6, 2012 at 1:21 PM

Joe McCarthy may have been abrasive and perhaps exaggerated things, but he wasn’t wrong about communists at the State Dept.

Rixon on August 6, 2012 at 11:27 AM

Absolutely. I hate when people try to use “McCarthyism” as if McCarthy had been wrong about his allegations. It’s like the leftist idiots who try to use “Swiftboating” to imply that the Swift Boat Vets were lying when in fact they were correcting Kerry’s lies. The Swift Boaters were the truth-tellers in that situation and true “Swiftboating” is the act of exposing a liar, as Kerry was.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on August 6, 2012 at 1:39 PM

MelonCollie on August 6, 2012 at 11:57 AM

LOL that’s so cute, he thinks that’s going to HELP people believe in his ignorant nuttery. The 2-year-old tantrum approach is so novel.

Wait… doubling down on unsubstantiated claims, and throwing hissy fits…

Mr. Reid, is that you???

CapnObvious on August 6, 2012 at 1:43 PM

libfreeordie on August 6, 2012 at 11:25 AM

When you lose your professorship, it will be Chicago style tactics.

Schadenfreude on August 6, 2012 at 1:48 PM

Just 3 words . . . Reid is scum.

rplat on August 6, 2012 at 11:24 AM

(The obligatory) You’re insulting scum (comment).

davidk on August 6, 2012 at 2:07 PM

Oh and the new Obama ad which uses the Wall Street Journal and the Tax Policy Center’s report on his middle class tax increases is *devastating* This election may be over barring something catastrophic.

libfreeordie on August 6, 2012 at 11:25 AM

Awww, they let this one out of his mental asylum today too, what is it today, ‘socializing-outside-your-ward-by-means-of-social-media day’ ??? if anyone raised taxes on the middle class it’s the current fraudulent occupier of the WH…ever heard of obamacare, you must have, guess who is going to pay for your occupancy there, at your menal asylum, courtesy of 0-care, yep, the middle class….see, you got that, you’re not as retarded as they wrote in your evaluation report….

jimver on August 6, 2012 at 4:43 PM

Mental asylum that is….

jimver on August 6, 2012 at 4:44 PM

I want to see the Ramirez cartoon of Harry McCarthy wavy lists around of people who told him that Romney hasn’t paid income taxes, yelling “I have here the names of 4″ “. . . 10″ “. . . 20 people” claiming that Romney didn’t pay his taxes. But maybe you have to be as old as George Will to get it.

You know if the roles were reversed the Media would haul out that old canard. When Democrats make absurd charges, well, that’s expected, but “McCarthyism” comes to their minds (?) first whenever the GOP points to something scandalous the Dems are doing.

They should do more coverage of how Harry became a multimillionaire from his seat as senator. Who is he to be calling Romney greedy? Romney’s built his fortune while serving as a the equivalent as a Catholic priest or bishop, and holding public office and heading the Winter Olympics without pay. What’s Reid been doing with his last 20 years?

flataffect on August 6, 2012 at 6:45 PM

Harry Reid is a pederast.

SDN on August 6, 2012 at 9:08 PM

Harry Reid is a pederast.

SDN on August 6, 2012 at 9:08 PM

To reword Dr. Seusss, “The three best words that best describe you (meaning Hairy Reid) are as follows, and I quote: ****, ****, ********!”

MelonCollie on December 19, 2012 at 9:55 PM