Another mass shooting, Wisconsin Updates: 7 dead. No more police updates until 10 AM Monday.
posted at 2:01 pm on August 5, 2012 by Jazz Shaw
This story is just breaking this afternoon, so expect updates later. Details are still very sketchy, but another mass shooting has taken place. The location is a Sikh temple in Wisconsin. Multiple injuries are being confirmed by officials on the scene.
A Sikh temple in a suburban Milwaukee is the scene of a shooting today that has left an unknown number of people injured.
Oak Creek Police Department dispatcher Stephanie Uljanec says the shooting took place about 10:30 a.m. Sunday morning at the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin, 7512 S. Howell Ave. Oak Creek is south of Milwaukee along Lake Michigan.
“We did have a shooting,” Uljanec said. “It’s unknown how many victims there are.”
There are more than a dozen ambulances parked outside the temple, and police have corralled media and a handful of bystanders to an area near the temple.
Another paper in the area was initially reporting between 20 and 30 victims, but CNN is now saying “one dead and at least two wounded.” A couple of reporters are tweeting events live from the scene, but there are conflicting reports as to whether the shooter is “at large” or if this has turned into a hostage situation. More to come.
UPDATE 1: (Jazz) CNN Headline News has an interview with a police spokesman on the scene, saying that one officer has been shot multiple times and at least one suspect was shot. Still developing.
UPDATE 2: (Jazz) The CNN video below has an interview with a representative of the temple. They are now reporting that one shooter was shot and “put down” (not sure if that means he’s dead) and that there may be two more shooters inside the temple holding hostages. However, the police spokesman on the scene is saying he can’t confirm anything yet about remaining suspects.
UPDATE 3: (Jazz) The police chief on the scene as of 2:55 PM is saying that police are moving through the temple and have located “four deceased inside the temple, three deceased outside, including the shooter.” Confusion is still running rampant among the media, but clearly this is very bad. The cops can’t confirm whether there are any more shooters or not.
UPDATE 4: (Jazz) The latest reports we are receiving from police on the scene indicate that law enforcement teams have completed a sweep of the temple, spoken to everyone on the property and are now checking the registration of all the cars parked in the area. Looks like they are being very thorough and not jumping too fast with the media, which is good to see. There will be another update later when they have the identity of the shooter, but obviously they will not release this information to the press until they have finished investigating that person’s home, other potential properties, etc. This is a good move by the police since they don’t want to send the media scrambling to places where they will need to do investigative work. The officer who took down the shooter should clearly be recognized as a hero and the commanders running this operation seem to be really keeping it under control. It’s a tragedy to be sure, but the first responders should be praised for the work we’re seeing thus far.
UPDATE 5: This just in from Stevegg in the comments:
Two quick updates:
- Oak Creek has set up a Family Hotline for family of those who were at the temple – 888-298-1964.
- The 3:30 press conference has been pushed back to 4 pm CDT (5 pm EDT).
UPDATE 5: (Jazz) As of the 5 PM eastern briefing from the local Chief of Police, there is confirmation that there are 7 dead and 3 others injured. The police will not be releasing the names of any of the victims nor the police officer who was shot until all family members have been notified. They are treating this as an in process criminal investigation and an “active scene” and they will not be releasing the identity of the shooter. They are treating it as an incident of “domestic terrorism” and the FBI is taking over the investigation on that end. There will be another briefing tomorrow morning at 10 AM, but until then we probably shouldn’t expect much more in terms of details.
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It is disappointing that Scott Walker supports amnesty.
bluegill on March 21, 2013 at 8:05 AM
Let’s take back the terminology. It isn’t “path to citizenship” or even amnesty. It is a plan for preferential treatment of illegal aliens. Seriously, I know people who waited years and had to spend thousands to become citizens. I have no support for those who would reward those with illegal alien status.
Happy Nomad on March 21, 2013 at 8:10 AM
Liberals will not long allow the states to be creative in meeting problems, most of which are caused by Washington and by liberals with their chosen sacraments of SSM, abortion, and entitlements. They will either join the idiots in DC (like with the CO gun and magazine ban) when they gain power, or do everything to undermine efforts when out of power (like the recall vote against Walker by the teacher unions). And, of course, the courts to declare unconstitutional an amendment to a state’s constitution (like with the SSM case before SCOTUS).
If liberals are to succeed, free thought and action independent of Washington and the Democrat machine cannot be tolerated.
Liam on March 21, 2013 at 8:11 AM
The owners of the gop (Big business) should be thrilled that the Union buster wants to run.
But he’s wasting his time because Texas is going blue if he gets AMNESTY.
Viva the leaders of the end-of-America Party!!!
PappyD61 on March 21, 2013 at 8:14 AM
Courageous — like Scott in FL and Brewer in AZ, agreeing to expand Medicaid so they could get more magical Obamabucks (at least in the short run)?
But Scott is right about the states being the answer. If we’re going to have any hope of saving this country, the states are going to need to take the lead. The states need to re-claim their constitutional authority; authority that they’ve foolishly ceded to the federal government too many times.
AZCoyote on March 21, 2013 at 8:15 AM
Walker? Ryan? Rubio? Paul? Cruz? Etc.
2016????……That’s not the real question if the gop allows 20 million more illegals to be voters…..the real question is do we change the country’s name to:
Meximerica?………or Americo?
Anyone in the BowDown Media have the fritos to ask THAT question of these Amnesty pushers?
PappyD61 on March 21, 2013 at 8:19 AM
It is disappointing that Scott Walker supports amnesty.
bluegill on March 21, 2013 at 8:05 AM
Let’s take back the terminology. It isn’t “path to citizenship” or even amnesty. It is a plan for preferential treatment of illegal aliens. Seriously, I know people who waited years and had to spend thousands to become citizens. I have no support for those who would reward those with illegal alien status.
Happy Nomad on March 21, 2013 at 8:10 AM
Walker’s stand on immigration is my biggest problem with him.
annoyinglittletwerp on March 21, 2013 at 8:29 AM
His state voted for Obama. Yeah, they did it, and will keep doing it. I doubt Walker could carry his own state.
rubberneck on March 21, 2013 at 8:32 AM
Now this is someone I can get behind, is he perfect No. He has done great work in his state and he has Exec experience unlike Paul.
KBird on March 21, 2013 at 8:41 AM
His state voted for Obama. Yeah, they did it, and will keep doing it. I doubt Walker could carry his own state.
rubberneck on March 21, 2013 at 8:32 AM
THIS x1,000,000
PappyD61 on March 21, 2013 at 9:02 AM
With the consensus that there will be an immigration bill passed some time this year, it is critical that there is a national policy that spells out the difference between immigrants who are on a path to citizenship, (working, paying taxes into the system, and collecting benefits), and an actual “right to vote” as an American citizen.
Every “immigrant” working here with a legal status, MUST also carry the proper ID that says in essence, “working status approved” “NOT A LEGAL VOTING AMERICAN CITIZEN”.
Let the Democrats chew on the fact that it will be over 10 years of continuous residency and passing the test of understanding the Constitution—in English—before voting status is granted.
Rovin on March 21, 2013 at 9:13 AM
I like the idea of identification that proclaims they are not legal voters. However, given the large number of stupid english-speaking people here who are citizens and don’t have a clue about the Constitution, I can’t support an understanding of the Constitution as a requirement to vote….. UNLESS WE EXTEND IT TO ALL VOTERS.
Happy Nomad on March 21, 2013 at 9:21 AM
My bad. I had assumed that our public, (federal), education system would cover the Constitution for every American student at some point before they graduated from HS. One would think that the founding document that completes the foundation of how our government IS supposed to operate, would be understood. Perhaps our liberal progressive “leaders” should be pinned down on what they believe is a priority for all Americans.
Rovin on March 21, 2013 at 9:32 AM
Although I agree that Texans need to be vigilant in keeping Texas conservative…Currently the Liberal Catholics are outnumbered by a combined denominational Protestants as a voting block. Baptists being the largest single block close to the Catholic demographic percentage
In Houston the percentage is Catholic – 18.44% Baptist – 16.29%
In Dallas the percentage is Catholic – 19.25% Baptist – 15.36%
In Austinistan……………Catholic – 17.45% Baptist – 10.56%
South of San Antonio is predominantly Catholic – 30.9%
Baptist – 7.89%
“Geographically, Texas tends to be heavily Protestant in the north and east and Catholic in the south and southwest. Leading Protestant denominations and their known adherents in 2000 were the Southern Baptist Convention, 3,519,459; the United Methodist Church, 1,022,342; Churches of Christ, 377,264; Assemblies of God, 228,098; the Presbyterian Church USA, 180,315; the Episcopal Church, 177,910; Independent Charismatic Churches, 159,449; the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, 155,451; the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, 155,019; Independent Non-Charismatic Churches, 145,249; and the Lutheran Church—Missouri Synod, 140,106. Roman Catholics numbered 4,368,969 in 2000. There were an estimated 128,000 Jews, 114,999 Muslims, and about 10,777 adherents to the Baha’i faith. There were about 9.2 million people (44.5% of the population) who were not counted as members of any religious organization.”
http://www.city-data.com/states/Texas-Religions.html
Graph on Denominational Percentages:
http://www.bestplaces.net/religion/state/texas
workingclass artist on March 21, 2013 at 9:33 AM
True or not liberals are convinced that since the civil war, state sovereignty belongs to the president.
Speakup on March 21, 2013 at 9:49 AM
My incredibly stupid state government is about to pass in state tuition for children of illegals.
The comments on the Portland TV stations FB page are overwhelmingly and vehemently against it. Surprising to me.
I do not think the majority of the little people, left or right support the politicians’ ideas on this this issue, but then again, the little people are paying for this mess and don’t need votes.
Maybe all the gop needs is someone who will actually do the right thing and put Americans first.
ORconservative on March 21, 2013 at 9:51 AM
This is really frustrating…Aside from a direct and concerted effort to round up illegals…including at their homes or work, or school…containing them in numerous “camps” across the US, and shipping them out to their home country, anything short of that would fall under the “amnesty” umbrella.
That ain’t gonna happen, just based on the logistics of such an operation, the costs, the effects on children and families, and the political ramifications. So it’s well past time get over the whole “amnesty” bs and throwing any GOPer who so much as mentions some “path to citizenship” under the bus.
The sooner we get over that, the better. Make no mistake, I’m all for sealing our borders, build a wall, heck…put armed guards in towers with Gatling guns. A sovereign nation cannot exist with open, porous borders. Of course, over half of illegals in the US didn’t slip through a hole in the fence or over a barrier…they came legally and overstayed their visas. That’s another thing we should do…to be much stricter on.
JetBoy on March 21, 2013 at 10:12 AM
All Politics is local…… so they say….
Unless you have a Big Media controlled by fascists, who create a propagandist lying reality for millions of Americans, that has no accountability for the lies they spread.
Yes, Kill the messenger. Do not feed the WaPo, LAT NYT beast anymore.
You want honesty to return to American Government ?
Fight the Pravda. The Russians finally did. And they won.
FlaMurph on March 21, 2013 at 12:16 PM
Yes because Mitt and McCain had exactly the same message as Walker.
- x1,000,000
It was the message that won the day for Walker. Small Government and he has delivered on that message. It could not have been more different than the bigger Government message of McCain and Romney.
Mitt was 15 points behind Walker and the message was the one and only reason for that. Mitts GOPe message stunk on ice and lost him the election. Well that and his core beliefs came out from time to time. You know pro Obama Care. Pro Abortion. Pro Gay Marriage. He tried hard to hide them but they did come out from time to time.
Steveangell on March 21, 2013 at 12:46 PM
And ANY of the Democrats are better??? This man had the cajones to stand up to the radical far left, the unions, the Obama admin. AND WON..
I would vote for Scott Walker in a presidential race in a HEARTBEAT..
reshas1 on March 21, 2013 at 12:51 PM
The “just look to the states” approach has some validity but it is truly too simplistic. Yes, the progress made by the Republican Party has been made on the state levels, but I can tell you that in many cases the state legislators are just as venal as those in Washington. Too many are looking at the wrong issues. (i.e. when Texas was suffering an ugly financial picture, the first piece of legislation considered was a fetal heart/anti-abortion bill). Progress is being made in the states, but in many cases it is in spite of many truly stupid legislators.
Legislators in Washington, D.C. have been there too long. They no longer hear the voices of their constituents. I have never favored term limits, but I no longer vote for incumbents. Maybe term limits is the answer.
georgeofthedesert on March 22, 2013 at 11:19 AM