Report: Robert Byrd sought FBI/CIA docs to target civil rights leaders

posted at 10:01 am on August 4, 2012 by Jazz Shaw

ABC News, in a rather surprising bit of actual investigative journalism, is covering some newly released documents from our intelligence agencies dating back to the 1960s. In response to an Associated Press FOIA request, the FBI has provided records of some very interesting and potentially highly embarrassing exchanges between a young Senator Robert Byrd, who sought secret documents regarding unnamed civil rights leaders of the time. His actions also managed to spark something of an internal war between two agencies over their inability to keep secret documents under control.

U.S. Sen. Robert C. Byrd obtained secret FBI documents about the civil rights movement that were leaked by the CIA and triggered an angry confrontation between the two agencies in the 1960s, according to newly released FBI records.

Byrd, who died in June 2010 at age 92, had sought the FBI intelligence while suspecting that communists and subversives were guiding the civil rights cause, the records show. Decades before he became history’s longest-serving member of Congress, or gained the title “King of Pork” for sending federal funds to West Virginia, the Democrat had stalled and voted against major civil rights legislation in the mid-1960s. He also belonged to the Ku Klux Klan while a young man in the 1940s, and the FBI cited that membership while weighing his requests for classified information, the records show…

The FBI had provided Byrd only with publicly available information about three unidentified individuals involved in civil rights matters when he revealed the leaked documents to an FBI agent during a September 1966 meeting, a memo to FBI Deputy Director C.D. DeLoach said.

“Why can’t a United State Senator, the best friend the FBI has in the Senate, get information directly from the FBI which he has already received from a third party,” Byrd was quoted as saying. The memo said Byrd then showed the agent Xerox copies of two secret FBI investigative reports and one internal memo.

While the civil rights leaders in question remain “unnamed” in these documents, it wouldn’t take a vast stretch of the imagination to guess who they might have been. Another item which the documents don’t delve into is the cover story that Byrd used during his “investigation.” While it’s true that there were plenty of officials in a panic over possible communist infiltration back in the day, picturing the likes of the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King as card carrying commies is a bit of a stretch. When you combine that with Byrd’s later disavowed membership in the Klan, it certainly looks like racial bias may have been just barely below the surface in his efforts to dig up some dirt on leaders of the civil rights movement.

Another interesting note is how the two agencies worked together to solve the problem back during that era, not to mention the level of civility and professionalism which almost looks alien today.

The records show that Helms’ security chief, Howard Osborne, ran down the leak: Two CIA employees provided the documents to an unidentified Maryland county law enforcement official, who then handed them off to the senator.

Osborne told the FBI that both “he and Mr. Helms are distressed over the incident and that they intend to make an example of the guilty CIA employees to insure that such an incident never occurs again,” a follow-up memo to DeLoach said.

The employees’ final fate is unclear, though the memo said Osborne was confident Helms would support firing one or both of the culprits.

The report is a couple of pages long, but well worth the read. An interesting look through a window into the past.


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Democrats haven’t changed a bit in the last 50 years, have they?

Alberta_Patriot on August 4, 2012 at 10:04 AM

Nothingburger.

Media won’t report it, so it doesn’t exist, but how about that Richie Rich horse of Ann Romney?

Now that horsey thing?……THAT IS NEWS.

PappyD61 on August 4, 2012 at 10:09 AM

The only route for political forgiveness is to be a Democrat. Republican? nawww.. Byrd, while a Democrat and KKK member, gets more cred than even Lincoln, a Republican.

ted c on August 4, 2012 at 10:14 AM

Yeah. The conscience of the Senate.

TugboatPhil on August 4, 2012 at 10:15 AM

ABC News, in a rather surprising bit of actual investigative journalism

“A random act of journalism” — Maha-Rushie

petefrt on August 4, 2012 at 10:18 AM

True to their racists roots to the end. This is the democrat party…

I’ve always wondered how much is in the congressional record that documents the Democrats sabotage of civil rights legislation for 30 years before Johnson finally had the backbone to stand up to his party.

Pappy is right. This won’t be reported. No one will know except a few hot gassers.

oldroy on August 4, 2012 at 10:18 AM

Stephen Hayes wants Ryan
Kristol want Rubio

Ryan would most likely lose Romney Florida, so he is better off where he is.
Rubio is the obvious pick between these two. Let’s hope he heeds their advice.
I still think Rice is the only one who assures Romney the election but Rubio is a close second.
Beyond that? It’s honestly not looking good for him. People won’t choose nothing over
something, even if that something is bad for them. Mitt can’t win with ‘boring white guy’
he just can’t. Go for the win Mitt. Rubio or Rice.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/go-gold-mitt_649299.html

AmeriCuda on August 4, 2012 at 10:18 AM

Where have all the racists in the Democratic party gone?

JoeHanson on August 4, 2012 at 10:24 AM

Pappy is right. This won’t be reported. No one will know except a few hot gassers.

oldroy on August 4, 2012 at 10:18 AM

Um, it is being reported. It’s on ABC. You know, the mainstream media.

It’s also 50 years old, which means it ain’t exactly headline stuff.

urban elitist on August 4, 2012 at 10:25 AM

Yet, blacks still pull the D lever. It boggles my mind why.

wolly4321 on August 4, 2012 at 10:25 AM

So a Democrat, a Democrat and member of the KKK, used the tools of government to target private citizens……

I wonder what is going on today? Does Ed Morrissey have a file? Allah? Michelle Malkin? Amy Kremer? Glenn Beck?

You could knock me over with a feather if they don’t.

ted c on August 4, 2012 at 10:25 AM

Liberals and low information voters decry the racist history of the United States as a means to attack the United States, yet, they pull the Big D lever.

really? esplain that one for me.

ted c on August 4, 2012 at 10:26 AM

While it’s true that there were plenty of officials in a panic over possible communist infiltration back in the day, picturing the likes of the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King as card carrying commies is a bit of a stretch.

The only panic these days is if someone is a card carrying member of a Tea Party.

ted c on August 4, 2012 at 10:29 AM

OK, while we do like to poke fun at Byrd and the Klan it is worth remembering that the Civil Rights movement was a pure force for goodness and truth.

It really did contain people in prominent positions who were communists, convicted criminals, people connected with terrorists, FBI and CIA moles, and more.

So yes, quite a few agencies watched it carefully.

MLK, (like JFK) got whacked at just the right time to guaratee that the legacy would be blackwashed IYKWIM.

CorporatePiggy on August 4, 2012 at 10:30 AM

Ted C- the only thing I can come up with is “free stuff”.

wolly4321 on August 4, 2012 at 10:31 AM

was a pure force for goodness and truth.

Should read WAS NOT.

CorporatePiggy on August 4, 2012 at 10:31 AM

Go for the win Mitt. Rubio or Rice.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/go-gold-mitt_649299.html

AmeriCuda on August 4, 2012 at 10:18 AM

Rice isn’t even remotely interested and has said if asked she would refuse. Quit with the RINO fantasies, she would be an unmitigated disaster.

SWalker on August 4, 2012 at 10:31 AM

Alfonzo Rachael has more than a little bit to say regarding African-Americans and their voting Democrat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt3Nwlokwls&list=HL1344090795&feature=mh_lolz

SWalker on August 4, 2012 at 10:34 AM

Way to tell only a sliver of this story. Anti-communism was *the* means through which whites dismissed and demonized civil rights leaders from King, to Rosa Parks, Ella Baker, Fannie Lou Hamer, A. Phillip Randolph, Bayard Rustin all of the “moderate” civil rights leaders the right lauds today as having “done it right.” If you’re interested in the history of red-baiting in the Civil Rights Era you may want to check out

The White South and the Red Menace: Segregationists, Anticommunism, and Massive Resistance, 1945-1965
by George Lewis, pretty spectacular well researched and documented book.

It also should be noted that under J. Edgar Hoover there weren’t just recommendations that the FBI and CIA spy on King and other civil rights leaders, it actually happened under a program called COINTELPRO. Black civil rights leaders were treated as enemies of the state for the mere crime of opposing segregation and demanding full class citizenship. No wonder southern whites felt justified using lynching against civil rights tactics. If the federal government signals that their activities are criminal, why wouldn’t everyday citizens?

See the FBI’s own website for more info on COINTELPRO

http://vault.fbi.gov/cointel-pro/

While it’s true that there were plenty of officials in a panic over possible communist infiltration back in the day, picturing the likes of the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King as card carrying commies is a bit of a stretch.

Its a shame people don’t know their history. Anti-communism was *the* means through which whites resisted racial integration in the south and racial justice movements across the country, from the feds down. Perhaps if conservatives knew this history they would understand why people look at them sideways when they wait for the first black President to come along to revive the issue of “communism” in our government. Is it just coincidental?

libfreeordie on August 4, 2012 at 10:40 AM

Most horrible is that so many places in WV are named after this guy.

And, to you liberals–Byrd would have totally hated your precious Obama.

Liam on August 4, 2012 at 10:42 AM

True to their racists roots to the end. This is the democrat party…

I’ve always wondered how much is in the congressional record that documents the Democrats sabotage of civil rights legislation for 30 years before Johnson finally had the backbone to stand up to his party.

oldroy on August 4, 2012 at 10:18 AM

Johnson had to be brought into it kicking and screaming, he had never supported it before. He did it because he was a very shrewd politico and could see the hand-writing on the wall and the political advantages of it. He simply took what JFK had tried to start. And don’t forget he added all that Great Society welfare crap as part of it.

Deanna on August 4, 2012 at 10:43 AM

ABC News, in a rather surprising bit of actual investigative journalism, is covering some newly released documents from our intelligence agencies dating back to the 1960s.

You’ll notice, however, that the investigative journalism waited until Sen. Byrd had assumed and been at room temperature for several years, and was no longer of any use as a reliable Democratic vote in Washington.

It may take a little longer for the fun stuff about Ted Kennedy to come out, since liberals have more invested in his myth than they had with Byrd. It’s not that the reporters at ABC and other big media outlets don’t know about these things; it’s that they hate reporting them when they know it will hurt their side if the public finds out about their heroes.

jon1979 on August 4, 2012 at 10:44 AM

Where have all the racists in the Democratic party gone?

JoeHanson on August 4, 2012 at 10:24 AM

Still there. Still want to keep blacks poor, poorly educated and enslaved. Only now they’ve figured out a way to do that and get their votes too.

29Victor on August 4, 2012 at 10:44 AM

Johnson had to be brought into it kicking and screaming, he had never supported it before. He did it because he was a very shrewd politico and could see the hand-writing on the wall and the political advantages of it. He simply took what JFK had tried to start. And don’t forget he added all that Great Society welfare crap as part of it.

Deanna on August 4, 2012 at 10:43 AM

“This will guarantee the Negro vote for Democrats the next 200 years.”

Liam on August 4, 2012 at 10:45 AM

libfreeordie on August 4, 2012 at 10:40 AM

Why do you support racism?

jawkneemusic on August 4, 2012 at 10:49 AM

Excuse me, but the Communists WERE guiding the Civil Rights movement with the intention of bringing down White America. Please see Horowitz’s book “Radical Son” or his website where he talks openly about the make up of the Civil Rights movement, of which he was one of the Chief Architect’s, mostly with the Black Panthers.

Or from the biography of MLK:

According to King’s biographer and sympathizer David J. Garrow, “King privately described himself as a Marxist.” In his 1981 book, “The FBI and Martin Luther King, Jr.”, Garrow quotes King as saying in SCLC staff meetings, “…we have moved into a new era, which must be an era of revolution…. The whole structure of American life must be changed…. We are engaged in the class struggle.”

In you efforts to polish you Conservative Creds, please remember that MLK,jr was a Communist, a Plagiarist and a violent pervert of the worst kind. According to a sympathetic liberal FBI agent, Andrew Sullivan, who in 30 years with the Bureau had seen everything there was to be seen of the seamy side of life, “King was one of only seven people he had ever encountered who was such a total degenerate.”

For further proof see:

“King’s Plagiarism: Imitation, Insecurity and Transformation,” The Journal of American History, June 1991, p. 87) David J. Garrow

“New York Times” of October 11, 1991, page 15.

“The FBI and Martin Luther King, Jr.”, David J. Garrow, (1981).

“And the walls came tumbling down,” Rev. Ralph Abernathy (1989)

I am not trying to excuse Byrd, but he was looking into the past of a dangerous America Hating Freak which the general population was being sold a completely clean image even to today. Why we have Martin Luther King, jr. Day now every year, where we are forced to pay this creature homage. No one may dare speak the truth but in whispers, lest the Thought Police (both left and Right) destroy you. The actions of Sen. Byrd at the time look far more noble than Obama’s actions in digging into the past of his political rivals in attempts to destroy them. Sen. Byrd was simply seeking the truth, we are supporting a lie.

Bulletchaser on August 4, 2012 at 10:49 AM

Is it just coincidental?

libfreeordie on August 4, 2012 at 10:40 AM

Is it coincidental that you are an imbecile? Or that you are a commie? I’m thinking that the answer is, no…

SWalker on August 4, 2012 at 10:50 AM

libfreeordie on August 4, 2012 at 10:40 AM

Why do you support racism?

jawkneemusic on August 4, 2012 at 10:49 AM

Well, he wouldn’t be a very good racists if he didn’t now would he.

SWalker on August 4, 2012 at 10:51 AM

Its a shame people don’t know their history. Anti-communism was *the* means through which whites resisted racial integration in the south and racial justice movements across the country, from the feds down. Perhaps if conservatives knew this history they would understand why people look at them sideways when they wait for the first black President to come along to revive the issue of “communism” in our government. Is it just coincidental?

libfreeordie on August 4, 2012 at 10:40 AM

And so the blackwashing begins.

The FBIs own records do indicate the presence of known communist elements, elements of groups like the SDS, criminals, and all the rest as prime movers in the holy civil rights movement. Of course theres a HUGE amount of information that isn’t really relevant but was documented anyway – like the fact that MLK was wildly and recklessly promiscous and chose to cheat on his wife with white women almost exclusively.

You are the kind of person who would like to pretend that this was all some witch hunt. Hoover was not a southerner or a racist by the way. He was almost certainly a homosexual so you should give him some credit at the very least for surviving in an age where homosexuals faced challenges far greater than the fried chicken menace.

CorporatePiggy on August 4, 2012 at 10:51 AM

Skullduggery? Hardly! DimmoCRAPs loves peoples! They care for the downtrodden that suffer under the thumbs of ricccchhhh repugnants with no social conscious who pay no taxes for a decade….

Babsy on August 4, 2012 at 10:56 AM

Where have all the racists in the Democratic party gone?

JoeHanson on August 4, 2012 at 10:24 AM

The modern democratic party is the most pointedly racist political movement in modern history.

Talk to a democrat about ANYTHING. Debt, deficits, national security, social policy, gun control, health care… who is the first person in the conversation to bring up race or skin color?

The Democrat!

Just in the last couple weeks we’ve been told that quoting the president and visiting Poland is racist!

The democrats have gone stark raving racist. Skin color is all they can think about anymore.

Alberta_Patriot on August 4, 2012 at 10:57 AM

You are the one who doesn’t know history. The Communist Party was very active among Blacks, especially in the South. So people had every reason to be suspicious. Even the NAACP had to issue warninga to their members about joining the COmmunist Party as they feared the rising movement. Walter White actually agreed with Hoover that the Communists were simply using the Civil Rights movement for their own gain.
So much for your history. Or do you support the Communist movement?

Deanna on August 4, 2012 at 10:58 AM

Sigh… that was in reply to libfreeordie not Alberta_Patriot. I need more coffee.

Its a shame people don’t know their history. Anti-communism was *the* means through which whites resisted racial integration in the south and racial justice movements across the country, from the feds down. Perhaps if conservatives knew this history they would understand why people look at them sideways when they wait for the first black President to come along to revive the issue of “communism” in our government. Is it just coincidental?

libfreeordie on August 4, 2012 at 10:40 AM

You are the one who doesn’t know history. The Communist Party was very active among Blacks, especially in the South. So people had every reason to be suspicious. Even the NAACP had to issue warninga to their members about joining the COmmunist Party as they feared the rising movement. Walter White actually agreed with Hoover that the Communists were simply using the Civil Rights movement for their own gain.
So much for your history. Or do you support the Communist movement?

Deanna on August 4, 2012 at 11:01 AM

Or do you support the Communist movement?

Deanna on August 4, 2012 at 10:58 AM

Yes he does, he is also probably aware the the homosexual movement that he is an activist for is also a Marxist Front group founded by and managed by Marxists.

SWalker on August 4, 2012 at 11:04 AM

If you knew your history, the strongest advocates for segregation in the South were Democrats.

Something most liberal arts humanities courses gloss over as quickly as possible.

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on August 4, 2012 at 11:05 AM

Or do you support the Communist movement?

Deanna on August 4, 2012 at 10:58 AM

Its pretty hard to argue against the view that ‘Democrat base’ opinion is now Communism-lite.

The New Left first formed during the 60s and were fringe viewers of the civil rights movement. Their ideas were born in an test tube of radical communist politics and they decided to move into academia to spread their intellectual plague amongst the establishment. From academia, into poltics. Fast forward 50 years and you have a President and his regime that are so far left the word socialist is entirely appropriate. Socialist with a dash of communism here and there.

CorporatePiggy on August 4, 2012 at 11:05 AM

Perhaps if conservatives knew this history they would understand why people look at them sideways when they wait for the first black President to come along to revive the issue of “communism” in our government. Is it just coincidental?

libfreeordie on August 4, 2012 at 10:40 AM

I submit that the reason Obama does not want to revive the issue of Communism in our government is that he knows exactly who those Communists are and he wants to keep that info very much on the QT so they can continue their work unabated. Anita Dunn and Van Jones were found out and dispatched publicly, but I don’t doubt for a minute they are still hanging around working behind the scenes. And then there’s the issue of Frank Marshall Davis, a Communist and Obama’s mentor. With his assertion of “You didn’t build that,” it isn’t a big leap to think that Obama himself harbors those attitudes — notice he backpedaled instead of disavowing it. If he believes it himself, he surely doesn’t want it getting out any more than it has already.

PatriotGal2257 on August 4, 2012 at 11:06 AM

Hey Libfree!

Why shouldn’t Whites resist dispossession? Certainly “integration” has failed utterly, with populations self-segregating. Harvard Sociologist Putnam in his book, “Bowling Alone” has written about the isolation and the loss of social capital and the increase of personal isolation due to “Diversity”, that has racked this nation since the left, in their attempt to “remake” America, have isolated Whites.

Whites have let themselves be convinced that it is racist merely to object to dispossession, much less to work for their own interests. Never before has a people been fooled into thinking that there was virtue or nobility in surrendering its heritage, and giving away to others its place in history, only whites have been tricked into thinking that love for their own people is somehow “hatred” of others.

There is no White organizations celebrating the History of Western Civilization and all it contributions, our own History. We are told that we build this land, indeed all of Western thought “on the backs of the poor”, that all cultures are equal, from the English Culture to the Borneo Headhunter, yet we are expected to bow before MLKjr and “celebrate” Black History Month. For 50 years Liberals have been lecturing us on “root causes” and “wars on Poverty” and “White Racism” while disenfranchising the White man by any means necessary.

Bulletchaser on August 4, 2012 at 11:18 AM

You are the one who doesn’t know history. The Communist Party was very active among Blacks, especially in the South. So people had every reason to be suspicious.

Yes, lets empathize with the “legitimate” concerns of people who’s goal was to uphold a white supremacist legal system known as Jim crow.

Even the NAACP had to issue warninga to their members about joining the COmmunist Party as they feared the rising movement. Walter White actually agreed with Hoover that the Communists were simply using the Civil Rights movement for their own gain.

For many years the Communist Party was the only political organization that allowed African Americans to join and which organized against racial discrimination. The black working class, in particular, was attracted to the CP while more moderate middle class folk like Dubois who founded the NAACP, were suspicious The red purges within the NAACP were a strategic move and did a lot to de-mobilize and discredit black activists who the NAACP mainstream disagreed with. In many ways it was a power grab move within the movement. Have you read the writings of Walter White’s contemporaries? Many African Americans were critical of his collusion with federal power.

That said, when it came down to the direct action campaigns like the Montgomery Boycott, the Birmingham march and boycott, bus boycotts in Tallahassee, New Orleans, the North Carolina sit-ins, the CORE freedom rides etc. The actual on the ground movements that exposed to the world the intensity of white resistance to integration there is reams and reams of evidence of the important role CP members made in the civil rights struggle. Yes, this opened up groups to the red-baiting tactics of segregationists, but they knew perfectly well that red-baiting was just that, a tactic.

libfreeordie on August 4, 2012 at 11:21 AM

And it wouldn’t be a day here at the old Hot Gas w/o some lib troll bashing Southerners. Well, I guess I won’t reply what I’m thinking, wouldn’t want to get the banhammer, while other jerks can be as offensive as they want to be.

di butler on August 4, 2012 at 11:23 AM

Bulletchaser on August 4, 2012 at 11:18 AM

And there you have it. Whites who murdered civil rights workers in the south, who spat on children in Little Rock who killed Emmit Till, who bombed MLK Jr’s house, who shot Medgar Evers were just “resisting dispossion” and “celebrating their heritage.” Its always good to see explicitly white supremacist rhetoric this early on a Saturday.

libfreeordie on August 4, 2012 at 11:24 AM

And there you have it. Whites who murdered civil rights workers in the south, who spat on children in Little Rock who killed Emmit Till, who bombed MLK Jr’s house, who shot Medgar Evers were just “resisting dispossion” and “celebrating their heritage.” Its always good to see explicitly white supremacist rhetoric this early on a Saturday.

libfreeordie on August 4, 2012 at 11:24 AM

This from a African-American Homosexual Marxist activist somehow lacks any sting.

SWalker on August 4, 2012 at 11:27 AM

It’s also 50 years old, which means it ain’t exactly headline stuff.

urbane effeteist on August 4, 2012 at 10:25 AM

Like Mitt Romney’s high school report card, right?

Right?

Please don’t insult our intelligence. We all know, you included, that had this been a 50 year old story uncovered about a prominent Republican Senator doing this (such as, perhaps, former Democrat Strom Thurmond), your side would have it plastered all over the front pages and over the airwaves as conclusive proof that the entire Republican Party was “racist”.

But even the overwhelmingly Democrat Mafia of “Historians” have never been able to cover up the Settled Science that Racism in Congress in those days was a Democrat Franchise. Not a Republican one.

FAIL-

Del Dolemonte on August 4, 2012 at 11:28 AM

This from a African-American Homosexual Marxist activist somehow lacks any sting.

SWalker on August 4, 2012 at 11:27 AM

How is it that you’re less offended by the poster who all but cut and pasted their rant from a David Duke speech?

libfreeordie on August 4, 2012 at 11:30 AM

I read ABC’s report- striking lack of detail. Half of it was Byrd’s curator making sure everyone knows Byrd was really a swell guy, and ABC complying with that effort.

BKeyser on August 4, 2012 at 11:31 AM

And there you have it. Whites who murdered civil rights workers in the south, who spat on children in Little Rock who killed Emmit Till, who bombed MLK Jr’s house, who shot Medgar Evers were just “resisting dispossion” and “celebrating their heritage.” Its always good to see explicitly white supremacist rhetoric this early on a Saturday.

libfreeordie on August 4, 2012 at 11:24 AM

And, they were, to a man, democrats.

totherightofthem on August 4, 2012 at 11:31 AM

libfreeordie on August 4, 2012 at 11:21 AM

The American Constitution left lots of room for the civil rights movement. The problem against it was Democrats like Byrd, a situation that lasted a century.

While you like sticking to your politics like spit-out gum to the sole of your shoe, you miss an entire realm of thought and history. I guess you need to, you need to feel justified and somehow ‘right, correct, and proper’.

Here’s a shock for you, libfree: Black folk don’t need you and your ilk. The persons of color that I know do just fine without you liberals.

Liam on August 4, 2012 at 11:32 AM

Byrd, Obama while a Democrat and KKK member admitted pot-head & cocaine user who is hopelessly underqualified for the presidency , gets more cred than even Lincoln, a Republican.
ted c on August 4, 2012 at 10:14 AM

Another example of white- and/or black-washing.

KS Rex on August 4, 2012 at 11:33 AM

And, they were, to a man, democrats.

totherightofthem on August 4, 2012 at 11:31 AM

And starting with Reagan they started voting GOP. And we all know about Reagan’s stump speeches in emotionally charged ground in the south. No one is fooled.

libfreeordie on August 4, 2012 at 11:34 AM

Yet, blacks still pull the D lever. It boggles my mind why.

wolly4321 on August 4, 2012 at 10:25 AM

Because they’re being educated by liberals.

AubieJon on August 4, 2012 at 11:40 AM

And starting with Reagan they started voting GOP. And we all know about Reagan’s stump speeches in emotionally charged ground in the south. No one is fooled.

libfreeordie on August 4, 2012 at 11:34 AM

So, racist southern democrats decided, en masse, to suddenly switch to being republicans when it was the republican party that promoted civil rights, from Lincoln to Eisenhower and through the 1964 Civil Rights Act? It doesn’t get more illogical than that. The huge demographic switch was a direct result of the democrat party embracing left-wing, anti-Christian value such as support for abortion. The democrat party became the party of the radical youth of the 1960′s-the same “youth” that now control it and two thirds of the federal government.

In short, you are wrong, if not simply lying.

totherightofthem on August 4, 2012 at 11:43 AM

Is it just coincidental?
libfreeordie on August 4, 2012 at 10:40 AM

Is it just coincidental that I, who grew up in the south and experienced the desegregation that neither blacks nor whites wanted, met my first true racist when I met my liberal freshman English professor? I don’t believe so.

AubieJon on August 4, 2012 at 11:45 AM

SWalker on August 4, 2012 at 11:27 AM

How is it that you’re less offended by the poster who all but cut and pasted their rant from a David Duke speech?

libfreeordie on August 4, 2012 at 11:30 AM

First, you foolishly assume that I am not offended by blatant racism, regardless of whether the proponent is BLACK or White. You are indisputably a BLACK RACIST, so in that case it amounts to offense at both of you.

Second, I utterly and completely hate MARXISTS, Marxism is perhaps the most evil vile and despicable political ideology ever invented by human beings. Since you are a proponent of both Marxism and Black Supremest Racism it leaves me taking even greater offense with you than him, which is not to suggest that I am not offended by his White Supremest bloviating as well.

However, being both a Marxist and a Black Supremest Racist you of course will be both incapable of and unwilling to grasp the significance of what I have just posted.

SWalker on August 4, 2012 at 11:45 AM

libfreeordie on August 4, 2012 at 11:21 AM
Hmmm…I pass on this discussion, waste of time. But I will say I was active in the civil rights movement in the 60s, both in the South and the North, and my own first hand experience is my reference. Please don’t bother to reply…I apologize for replying to you in the first place. Now I have to go do something important, entertain my grandchildren. Have a nice day.

Deanna on August 4, 2012 at 11:45 AM

It also should be noted that under J. Edgar Hoover there weren’t just recommendations that the FBI and CIA spy on King and other civil rights leaders, it actually happened under a program called COINTELPRO.

Its a shame people don’t know their history.

libfreeordie on August 4, 2012 at 10:40 AM

Way to tell only a sliver of this story.

You seem to conveniently forget the prominent role of Democrat Attorney General Bobby Kennedy in regards to the wiretaps of MLK. In fact, he signed off on them.

On October 10, 1963, U.S. Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy committed what is widely viewed as one of the most ignominious acts in modern American history: he authorized the Federal Bureau of Investigation to begin wiretapping the telephones of the Reverend Martin Luther King Jr. Kennedy believed that one of King’s closest advisers was a top-level member of the American Communist Party, and that King had repeatedly misled Administration officials about his ongoing close ties with the man…his order remained secret until May of 1968, just a few weeks after King’s assassination and a few days before Kennedy’s own.

Its a shame people don’t know their history.

FAIL-

Del Dolemonte on August 4, 2012 at 11:47 AM

Since the Democrat party has been in existence they have been the party of segregation, racism and champion of slavery. This is a story being re-written today by the LSM whitewashing Democrats of this wrongdoing. Someway, somehow, ABC will rewrite the ending showing Robert Byrd to be the champion of civil rights while ignoring his past of recruiting members for the KKK.

Herb on August 4, 2012 at 11:48 AM

For many years the Communist Party was the only political organization that allowed African Americans to join

libfreeordie on August 4, 2012 at 11:21 AM

Really? Some credible proof would be nice.

Del Dolemonte on August 4, 2012 at 11:50 AM

libfreeordie on August 4, 2012 at 11:21 AM

Really? Some credible proof would be nice.

Del Dolemonte on August 4, 2012 at 11:50 AM

Dude… He’s a Black Racist Homosexual Marxist Activist… he don’t need to stinkin proof…

SWalker on August 4, 2012 at 11:52 AM

The huge demographic switch was a direct result of the democrat party embracing left-wing, anti-Christian value such as support for abortion.

So where did the southern white Democrats go? There were cetainly more than enough of them to make the south a “solid” win for the Democratic party for generations. They all just stopped voting? And some other people suddenly began voting Republican because of the anti-Christian views of Democrats. You’re actually going to say that every white southern segregationist never voted again?

libfreeordie on August 4, 2012 at 11:52 AM

No one is fooled.

libfreeordie on August 4, 2012 at 11:34 AM

You are.

When did Al Gore Senior defect to the Republican Party? I missed that.

F-

Del Dolemonte on August 4, 2012 at 11:52 AM

The true legacy of the civil rights movement was the near total destruction of black society and black families. The ghetto got a lot more fierce with drugs and violence, educational achievement plummeted, welfare dependency made modern day slaves of the new fully emancipated people, and racism raged ever further out of control within a community that blamed all this evil on whitey. The connection between the civil rights movement legislation and this is never acknowledged. And the movement itself is never discussed except in hagiography.

Fast forward 50 years: By electing a half white Marxist President by way of partial reparations, one could certainly say in the immportal words of Jeremiah Wright “AmeriKKKa’s chickens have come home…TO ROOST!”

CorporatePiggy on August 4, 2012 at 11:56 AM

So where did the southern white Democrats go?

libfreeordie on August 4, 2012 at 11:52 AM

By 1970 Al Gore Senior’s State was already turning Republican. That’s one of the primary reasons he finally was unseated that year.

Its a shame people don’t know their history.

Del Dolemonte on August 4, 2012 at 11:56 AM

And there you have it. Whites who murdered civil rights workers in the south, who spat on children in Little Rock who killed Emmit Till, who bombed MLK Jr’s house, who shot Medgar Evers were just “resisting dispossion” and “celebrating their heritage.” Its always good to see explicitly white supremacist rhetoric this early on a Saturday.

libfreeordie on August 4, 2012 at 11:24 AM

Aren’t you tired of expensive Emergency Room visits? Yet, you still come back for more pummeling.

Some call that character. Not me.

Everyone preforming those acts of violence were?

Care to guess?

98ZJUSMC on August 4, 2012 at 12:00 PM

Can’t be, a Democrat would never do that /sarc

clippermiami on August 4, 2012 at 12:00 PM

So where did the southern white Democrats go?

libfreeordie on August 4, 2012 at 11:52 AM

You may have stated this before, but please humor me. Without telling specifics, in what region of the US did you grow up and get your education, and in what region do you now live?

AubieJon on August 4, 2012 at 12:02 PM

Jeremiah Wright “AmeriKKKa’s chickens have come home…TO ROOST!”

CorporatePiggy on August 4, 2012 at 11:56 AM

Yup… and then Dan Cathy fried them up and turned them into Chicken fil-A sandwiches.

SWalker on August 4, 2012 at 12:03 PM

Anti-communism was *the* means through which whites resisted racial integration in the south and racial justice movements across the country,

LOL. DU and Kos sure get their hits from ThoughtFreeorDie.

Honestly, you can get this over with a lot quicker if you just hit yourself with a baseball bat and get it over with.

..or, a fairway wood to the ‘nads, whichever….

98ZJUSMC on August 4, 2012 at 12:07 PM

libfreeordie on August 4, 2012 at 10:40 AM

That’s because many African-Americans really became communists, out of protest. Paul Robeson, for example.

He was the most famous singer of his time and turned into a powerful propaganda tool for Stalin. The communists lost interest in him when he tried to commit suicide in Moscow. It’s a tragic story.

Gelsomina on August 4, 2012 at 12:13 PM

Its a shame people don’t know their history. Anti-communism was *the* means through which whites resisted racial integration in the south and racial justice movements across the country, from the feds down. Perhaps if conservatives knew this history they would understand why people look at them sideways when they wait for the first black President to come along to revive the issue of “communism” in our government. Is it just coincidental?

libfreeordie on August 4, 2012 at 10:40 AM

No, anti-communism was only one part of the attempt to block civil rights.

But you’re missing the larger picture here: The very people who constantly point fingers at conservatives, accusing them of “McCarthyism” are the very people who used anti-communism fear tactics to try and cripple the Civil Rights movement.

catsandbooks on August 4, 2012 at 12:15 PM

(….)For many years the Communist Party was the only political organization that allowed African Americans to join and which organized against racial discrimination. The black working class, in particular, was attracted to the CP while more moderate middle class folk like Dubois who founded the NAACP, were suspicious The red purges within the NAACP were a strategic move and did a lot (…)

Doubling down on a 6-high hand of garbage.

My head hurts from reading the stupid.

98ZJUSMC on August 4, 2012 at 12:18 PM

“This will guarantee the Negro vote for Democrats the next 200 years.”

Liam on August 4, 2012 at 10:45 AM

Don’t sugar coat it. What LBJ reportedly said was:

“I’ll have those ni**ers voting Democratic for the next 200 years”

bofh on August 4, 2012 at 12:19 PM

and then Dan Cathy fried them up and turned them into Chicken fil-A sandwiches.

SWalker on August 4, 2012 at 12:03 PM

This establishing Chick Fil-A as the true spiritual heir to the Civil Rights Movement.

Nice.

CorporatePiggy on August 4, 2012 at 12:23 PM

So where did the southern white Democrats go?

libfreeordie on August 4, 2012 at 11:52 AM

They evolved to a higher plane of consciousness becoming Republican or Reagan Democrats.

Now, they’re becoming Tea Party.

98ZJUSMC on August 4, 2012 at 12:25 PM

For many years the Communist Party was the only political organization that allowed African Americans to join

libfreeordie on August 4, 2012 at 11:21 AM

Really? Some credible proof would be nice.

Del Dolemonte on August 4, 2012 at 11:50 AM

I would love to see that documentation, also. I’m certain it exists, right?

98ZJUSMC on August 4, 2012 at 12:27 PM

Wan’t he the Ku Klux Klan recruiting officer that served in the senate for 70 years as an elected democrat?

That all the other democrats loved and lauded?

tom daschle concerned on August 4, 2012 at 12:27 PM

SWalker on August 4, 2012 at 12:03 PM

This establishing Chick Fil-A as the true spiritual heir to the Civil Rights Movement.

Nice.

CorporatePiggy on August 4, 2012 at 12:23 PM

I calls em as I see’s em… ;)

SWalker on August 4, 2012 at 12:32 PM

You’re actually going to say that every white southern segregationist never voted again?

libfreeordie on August 4, 2012 at 11:52 AM

No. Many of them, like Byrd, remained democrats and voted as such.

totherightofthem on August 4, 2012 at 12:36 PM

Don’t sugar coat it. What LBJ reportedly said was:

“I’ll have those ni**ers voting Democratic for the next 200 years”

bofh on August 4, 2012 at 12:19 PM

Yep. That’s verbatim, I believe.

My, my, my…. the Democratic Party is just chock full of racists and homophobes. Maybe they should hope and change for about 60 years, evolve and get with the modern world.

98ZJUSMC on August 4, 2012 at 12:37 PM

An interesting look through a window into the past.

Yeah? Be interesting to see what info Pelosi and Reid are asking for today.

GarandFan on August 4, 2012 at 12:43 PM

Don’t sugar coat it. What LBJ reportedly said was:

“I’ll have those ni**ers voting Democratic for the next 200 years”

bofh on August 4, 2012 at 12:19 PM

I needed to use polite terms, lest…(you fill in the blanks I left open)

Liam on August 4, 2012 at 12:52 PM

Where have all the racists in the Democratic party gone?

JoeHanson on August 4, 2012 at 10:24 AM

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Still there. Still want to keep blacks poor, poorly educated and enslaved. Only now they’ve figured out a way to do that and get their votes too.

29Victor
on August 4, 2012 at 10:44 AM

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Threadwinner.

listens2glenn on August 4, 2012 at 1:00 PM

Where have all the racists in the Democratic party gone?

JoeHanson on August 4, 2012 at 10:24 AM

Democratic Party Bosses: Now all you black folks get out there and pick that cotton up your SNAP card and remember to vote for democratics.

slickwillie2001 on August 4, 2012 at 1:03 PM

You seem to conveniently forget the prominent role of Democrat Attorney General Bobby Kennedy in regards to the wiretaps of MLK. In fact, he signed off on them.

But But But…..those Kennedy boys were the first incarnation of Obama the supreme being. They were going to end racism weren’t they? Johnson was more of a racist than the Kennedy clan…..BAahhahahahhahhahahhhh!!

Note to libfreeor-run-away-and-cry: People are concerned about Obama’s socialist cred because he was a card carrying member of the socialist party. So, it’s racist to be concerned about Obama’s self-identified socialist politics because he’s half black?

oldroy on August 4, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Wasn’t he the Ku Klux Klan recruiting officer that served in the senate for 70 years as an elected democrat?

That all the other democrats loved and lauded?

tom daschle concerned on August 4, 2012 at 12:27 PM

You are correct sir. The democratics’ organizing arm, the Ku Klux Klan, is no longer operational. The democratics replaced them with Planned Parenthood. The new organization has been wildly successful, killing more blacks than the KKK ever dreamed of, and doing it with government funding at all levels.

slickwillie2001 on August 4, 2012 at 1:12 PM

SO, when will the lunatic-left d-cRAT socialists DENOUNCE their beloved Sen. Byrd for being

1. A leader of the Ku Klux Klan as an Exalted Cyclops.
2. A leader of the d-cRAT socialist party efforts to continue segregation.
3. A leader in the d-cRAT socialist party’s efforts to block civil rights. ?

Hint: don’t hold your breath waiting for that to happen.

TeaPartyNation on August 4, 2012 at 2:26 PM

Where have all the racists in the Democratic party gone?
JoeHanson on August 4, 2012 at 10:24 AM

They’re still there.

In a phone call entreating Ted Kennedy to endorse his wife Hillary, Bill Clinton said this about Barack Obama: “A few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee.”

[A]nybody toting guns and stripping moose don’t care too much about what they do with Jews and blacks.~ Rep. Alcee Hastings, D-Fla., Sept. 24, 2008

Howard Dean: “I still want to be the candidate for guys with Confederate flags in their pickup trucks.” “You think the Republican National Committee could get this many people of color in a single room? … Only if they had the hotel staff in here.” Dean knows that all hotel wait staff is black, you see.

California Democrat Diane Watson thinks interracial marriage is icky: “He’s married to a white woman. He wants to be white. He wants a colorless society. He has no ethnic pride. He doesn’t want to be black.”

Joe Biden explains why southern Democrats should vote for him: “My state was a slave state.” “You cannot go to a 7-11 or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent … I’m not joking.”

Ray Nagin: “I don’t care what people are saying Uptown or wherever they are. This city will be chocolate at the end of the day.”

Akzed on August 4, 2012 at 2:52 PM

Its a shame people don’t know their history. Anti-communism was *the* means through which whites resisted racial integration in the south and racial justice movements across the country, from the feds down. Perhaps if conservatives knew this history they would understand why people look at them sideways when they wait for the first black President to come along to revive the issue of “communism” in our government. Is it just coincidental?
libfreeordie on August 4, 2012 at 10:40 AM

Huh. Any original sources?

Akzed on August 4, 2012 at 2:54 PM

The leftists hate minorities. They just like them in modern day plantations, for votes/power only.

Wake up, dummy moochers, and pitchfork your looters. They like you ignorant and poor.

Schadenfreude on August 4, 2012 at 3:18 PM

Runaway Slave in theaters NOW.

Go see it. Take friends and family.

tom daschle concerned on August 4, 2012 at 3:38 PM

Barbaric!

OneGyT on August 4, 2012 at 5:28 PM

blah blah blah self righteous drivel drivel drool
-libfreeordie

it’s a shame when racist lying partisan hacks distort history to not ’school’ conservatives as they claim to be so bravely, selflessly doing -but to keep their pandered to vote slaves dependent and in line.

bayard rustin was a socialist, heavily involved with the AFL-CIO. he was a member of the Young Communists League and honorary chairman of the Socialist Party of America. rustin was attacked from all corners but particularly by his like minded peers for his homosexuality not his communist/socialist associations.

ella baker as involved with socialist/anarchist george schuyler and his socialist organizing.( he later became a conservative). she was a big wig in SNCC, who’s base was wildly in tune with the radical left- it WAS the radical socialist/communist left. indeed the bulwark it all seemed to expand and scatter from. baker was always harping about a ‘collectivist’ approach to civil rights activism , she was very fierce in her opposition to MLK jr. SNCC gave us the black panthers who always identified as black nationalist and socialist/communist/maoist.

a.philip randolph was a member of the Socialist Party of America and ran on the Socialist ticket for office in new york state. he was also a union organizer. at the time the official Communist and Socialist parties in america- with direct ties no one disputes (save annoying stupid brainwashed liars) to the USSR and even Stalin who had much input in getting the parties involved in civil rights organizing in america. means to an end- go to the disgruntled people and inflame them to revolt. it doesn’t mean communist gave a rats ass about black and brown people.

it was democrat Johnson who went after fannie lou hamer over the Freedom Democrats threat to dixiecrat racists. democrats set hoover on her and johnson referred to her as “ that illiterate woman” for protesting against the racism of the democrat party. hamer attracted a lot of media attention to the democrats huge racism problem- and johnson was furious over it.

WEB du bois visited the soviet union and thought that it was through socialism that equality for blacks in america could be best achieved over capitalism. paul robeson, langston hughes, richard wright- all socialists/communists.

the official communist party in the USA since the 20s focused on civil rights for black americans and purposely directed their energies in labor unions to get black support. they sent lawyers in to represent the scottsboro boys when even black organizations refused . communists ran a black man, james w. ford, three times for vice president- something even civil rights advocates never seem to mention. decades of activism based it may be surmised not entirely on altruism and the cause of justice- enough so that later day black involvement in socialism/communism has been separate from the official socialist/communist entities in america.

they were using blacks to their purposes – as the democrat party uses blacks, women, and gays to this very day. the avalanche of open documents from the USSR have offered ample proof that communists were active in a destructive manner in america and within the civil rights movement.

mittens on August 4, 2012 at 5:30 PM

mittens on August 4, 2012 at 5:30 PM

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It seemed that you stopped short of flat-out saying that the “Liberal/Socialists” political activists hijacked the Civil Rights movement.
But you definitely implied it, and that’s what I have been saying for years . . . . . . .

I’m convinced MLK was murdered at the hand of Liberal activists, possibly with cover-up help from the White House (LBJ) for the expressed purpose of taking over the Civil Rights movement.

listens2glenn on August 4, 2012 at 8:35 PM

a young Senator Robert Byrd

Having been born in 1917, “young” Senator Byrd was between 43 and 52 years old. When he was actually young, in the 1940s, he was an active member of the KKK.

bgoldman on August 4, 2012 at 9:50 PM

When I was a little girl, I grew up Southern Baptist, and as was the custom, from time to time, you’d visit other churches for special speakers, singings, etc. We were “honored” by up and comer Jimmy Carter as our speaker. Throughout his sermon, he dissed the “nigras” every other breath. That is, until my parents gathered us up and we walked out. My 80 yr old daddy still talks about what a hate filled racist Carter was, and how he still can’t believe how people voted for, and covered for, him for all these decades.

di butler on August 4, 2012 at 9:58 PM

I’ve always wondered how much is in the congressional record that documents the Democrats sabotage of civil rights legislation for 30 years before Johnson finally had the backbone to stand up to his party.

oldroy on August 4, 2012 at 10:18 AM

Since Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid took a swipe at Republicans this morning, comparing them to those who opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 for filibustering health reform legislation. It’s worth remembering that the longest filibuster of the 1964 act was conducted by a still-sitting senator, Robert C. Byrd, who personally spoke against the legislation for 14 hours and 13 minutes on June 9 & 10, 1964. Here’s an extract from the book, Wrong on Race: The Democratic Party’s Buried Past, which was published last year.

Even so, one final element was essential to passage of the civil rights bill—the strong support of Republicans. Although Democrats had a historically large majority in the House of Representatives with 259 members to 176 Republicans, almost as many Republicans voted for the civil rights bill as Democrats. The final vote was 290 for the bill and 130 against. Of the “yea” votes, 152 were Democrats and 138 were Republicans. Of the “nay” votes, three-fourths were Democrats. In short, the bill could not have passed without Republican support. As Time Magazine observed, “In one of the most lopsidedly Democratic Houses since the days of F.D.R., Republicans were vital to the passage of a bill for which the Democratic administration means to take full political credit this year.”

A similar story is told in the Senate. On the critical vote to end the filibuster by Southern Democrats, 71 senators voted to invoke cloture. With 67 votes needed, 44 Democrats and 27 Republicans joined together to bring the bill to a final vote. Of those voting “nay,” 80 percent were Democrats, including Robert C. Byrd and former Vice President Al Gore’s father, who was then a senator from Tennessee.

Wonder no more. The author of the book is Bruce Bartlett.

Democrats by definition demand subservience and the truth has nothing to do with their desire to further that notion on others. They always allow time to pass and hope that they can obfuscate history and pin blame on their ” enemies”, not unlike an immature human being who takes no responsibility for their own actions,deeds and words.

DevilsPrinciple on August 5, 2012 at 9:37 AM

SHEETS

philoise65 on August 5, 2012 at 12:29 PM

The only reason King and the Civil Rights movement gave a cr@p about the Commie Party was “any port in a storm” to get Jim Crow off their backs.

But…things changed. Drastically. King would weep bitterly if he could see the results of decades of pain: an entire raced failed, on welfare, glorifying criminals. And a ‘President’ not fit to sell apples on the street corner.

MelonCollie on August 6, 2012 at 10:11 AM