Congress takes a parting shot at Westboro Baptist

posted at 1:01 pm on August 4, 2012 by Jazz Shaw

I managed to miss this one when it first came up, but the “do nothing Congress” apparently stirred themselves to do something before they headed out the door for summer vacation. The “Honoring America’s Veterans and Caring for Camp Lejeune Families Act of 2012” managed to pass muster and awaits the President’s signature. According to the new bill – introduced by Olympia Snowe – protesters will be prevented from picketing military funerals two hours before or after a service, and they will be restricted to staying at least 300 feet from the grave.

Given how these cretins are pretty much universally despised, many of us might find this a bit of good cheer during the dog days of summer. Unfortunately, the legislation seems to have one major flaw. It’s pretty much identical to previous attempts to muzzle the hate group which have already been shot down by the Supreme Court. Dr. James Joyner weighs in, describing the bill as little more than pandering and an unfortunate incursion on first amendment rights.

Look, I hate these Westboro dirtbags as much as the next guy. Their message is vile and their targets innocent. But the Supreme Court has ruled that picketing funerals is protected by the First Amendment. It was an 8-1 ruling, with only Justice Alito dissenting.

While the 300 foot buffer zone is certainly permissible—indeed, the Westboro cretins observed a 1000 foot buffer in the case decided by the Supreme Court—the two hour window is almost surely not. So say that you can’t picket near a funeral while said funeral is going on is effectively ban it. And the Supreme Court has already said that the activity is protected by the Constitution.

I hate to say it, but this certainly does smell of pandering. There’s no easier path to public praise for politicians than to do something to support our military and veterans. (And rightly so.) But there’s a difference between doing something substantive to help them and just passing a bill which you know will get shot down just so you can look like you’re being tough on the protesters. If the government can regulate speech to the point where they can prevent you from showing up two hours before until two hours after an event, that would be a precedent which could very quickly get out of control.

Protecting our right to free speech unfortunately means occasionally protecting speech we all abhor. I imagine that the Westboro crew has enough cash and lawyers left to challenge this act the moment it’s signed into law and any judge hearing the request will doubtless issue an immediate injunction preventing it from being enforced. Sad to say, but this vote was likely little more than an exercise in futility. And, yes… pandering.


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There’s not a USS Flat top in theatre? SSN with a Team on board?

Really?

wolly4321 on May 8, 2013 at 10:39 PM

There’s a whole fleet in the Med. One aircraft or drone would have ended the attack. The SEALs fighting for their lives just needed a little help, any help and they got none.

The people in Tripoli could have helped, but they got turned around and told to stand down.

The child running things was paralyzed with political fear and indifference.

He’s told America’s enemies that attacks on us will go unanswered because he doesn’t give a crap.

dogsoldier on May 9, 2013 at 6:15 AM

Sadly Benghazi was ,figuratively speaking, demoted to page 33 in the tabloids (even by Fox News)by a highly sensational murder trial verdict and an equally bombastic kidnapping-rape arrest. Although these two titillating stories had fortuitous, feel good results, they have no more effect on our nation’s destiny and security than a frog fart.Yet they both buried the far more important Benghazi coverup and extortion– which does not augur well for any substantive corrections and prosecutions coming from these hearings.Of course, a MSM in the tank for Obama, would not have adequately covered the hearings anyway but Fox’s relegating Benghazi to the “back pages” tells you all you need to know about the American public–Fox is ratings driven 24/7 and they knew they would lose market share by covering the more crucial story.

MaiDee on May 9, 2013 at 6:25 AM

Well Jon Stewart says we are all being silly because attacks like this occurred under Bush and yet there were no hearings or dramatic coverage on FNC. So there. How brain dead is his audience? Or how does he view them? It’s the cover up. It’s always the coverup. That is the problem.

MechanicalBill on May 8, 2013 at 11:08 PM

Not to mention the lack of ambassadors left to die.

The Schaef on May 9, 2013 at 7:04 AM

The Media should be ashamed. My take.

kingsjester on May 9, 2013 at 7:09 AM

As I said before, Hillary will get all the justice that will be left after she remembers and recalls “witnesses” that nobody ever knew about coming to testify in her favor.

Arkysaw was just the warm up. And when the Foster evidence up and disappeared, she was running the show in Virginia and DC.

dockywocky on May 9, 2013 at 8:29 AM

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3017194/posts

To me one of the seminal moments was when talking points woman speirer asked Hicks “if he could be stationed anywhere in the world where would it be.”
She had ask him twice. Few caught on the threat of “do as we say or you go to Siberia.” But it was a direct threat form the Chicago thuggery if you know how they play the game.

rodguy911 on May 9, 2013 at 9:15 AM

Well Jon Stewart says we are all being silly because attacks like this occurred under Bush and yet there were no hearings or dramatic coverage on FNC.

Question for Stewart – what attacks like this occurred under Bush with no hearings afterwards?

Seven hour sustained attacks (which could have lasted longer for all anyone in DC knew when they refused to send help), missing and then dead ambassadors, with no help from anyone on the ground, in the middle of an election?

Seriously, I want to know.

Sure, there have been bombs, where it’s a blast or two and then over. And yes, people have been killed by those bombs.

But sustained attack from armed terrorists? Ambassadors with almost no security killed and dragged through the streets? On the anniversary of 9/11 when boosted security ought to have been an no-brainer?

I really want to hear about these.

Missy on May 9, 2013 at 9:18 AM

Does Hicks have grounds for a civil suit against his bosses for the demotion, or is that not allowed? I realize he is a white male hair challenged person, but that doesn’t usually count for much.

Fleuries on May 9, 2013 at 9:45 AM

But sustained attack from armed terrorists? Ambassadors with almost no security killed and dragged through the streets? On the anniversary of 9/11 when boosted security ought to have been an no-brainer?

I really want to hear about these.

Missy on May 9, 2013 at 9:18 AM

How on earth do you know that American bodies were never dragged through the street after bombings under Bush? Stewart’s segment made you all look like fools, and I’m glad you’ve all seen it.

libfreeordie on May 9, 2013 at 9:59 AM

54 attacks on American diplomatic centers, 13 killed under Bush. 3 hearings.

One attack under Obama, 4 killed, 9 hearings.

Do the math.

libfreeordie on May 9, 2013 at 10:03 AM

Dozens of lies and cover-ups.

Do the math.

blink on May 9, 2013 at 10:04 AM

Except that there aren’t really any cover ups, just lots of conjecture.

libfreeordie on May 9, 2013 at 10:07 AM

Subpoena both Hillary & Rice, confront them with the proof of their lies, charge Hillary with Felony Crimes of Perjury as she lied last time while under oath (do so with Rice if she testified last time and also lied under oath), & begin Impeachment proceedings immediately!

easyt65 on May 9, 2013 at 10:17 AM

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blockquote>Except that there aren’t really any cover ups, just lots of conjecture.

libfreeordie on May 9, 2013 at 10:07 AM

Yes, there is. They lied about who changed Rice’s talking points.

How on earth can you deny this? Are you deliberately keeping your head in the sand?

blink on May 9, 2013 at 10:09 AM

It was PROVEN FURTHER yesterday that Ambassador Stevens HIMSELF passed on at the start of the THIRD terrorist attack against him that the attack was indeed a TERRORIST ATTACK – “We are under ATTACK”! This was passed on by one of the witnesses to the State Department / the WH before contacting the military attache, the Libyan Govt POC, and the Libyan Military POC to request assistance. The State Dept ws contacted & notified of the ATTACK at 3am Libya time – 9pm Washington DC time

It was proven FURTHER yesterday that the administration knew inside of 12 hours that this was a terrorist attack, the identity of the group that perpetrated it & was claiming responsibility.

It was proven beyond the shadow of a doubt that a CIA report was sent via CABLE explicitly calling this a terrorist attack & providing much detail – we know the administration then edited that report no less than 3 times, stripping out every reference to terrorism or a terrorist attack. We KNOW that the administration – OBAMA, Hillary, & Rice along with others – were shoveling the BS ‘video’ LIE WEEKS AFTER THE ATTACK!

These 3 men yesterday proved beyond the shadow of a doubt that 1) this whole Benghazi story coming out of the White House – which Obama himself participated in by insisting it was over a video weeks after the attack – was a calculated conspiratorial LIE to cover up what went on in Benghazi to shelter Obama from the event & protect his re-election chances. Even more heinous, it proved Americans who fought for their lives for hours while waiting for help to come were abandoned – BETRAYED – LEFT TO DIE, that there were assets available & closer that could have responded & that there WAS a ‘stand down’ order given! Opposed to the Lie the administration told, the Libyan Govt was never contacted to coordinate approval through Libyan airspace to go to the rescue in Benghazi!

The very President who promised to find out who did this & make them pay, to find out the truth so this would never happen again,is the man responsible for the lack of security, the death of Stevens, the abandoning / betrayal of 3 Americans, & the top man in this massive coverup! DESPICABLE…and IMPEACHABLE!

easyt65 on May 9, 2013 at 10:31 AM

How on earth do you know that American bodies were never dragged through the street after bombings under Bush?

libfreeordie on May 9, 2013 at 9:59 AM

Mostly because we also have the reports from those events, and no one was working their butts off to cover up what happened, or deny the terrorist nature of the attack.

Also, most of the “attacks” that took place, no one was killed and in more than a few of them there were not even any injuries.

Also, it is a lie to say this is the one and only attack. Those who claim thus are deliberately leaving numerous attacks out of the count for arbitrary reasons, and in focusing on embassy attacks they are further ignoring the number of attempts here at home, most of which were thwarted by dumb luck.

The Schaef on May 9, 2013 at 12:55 PM

Well Jon Stewart says we are all being silly because attacks like this occurred under Bush and yet there were no hearings or dramatic coverage on FNC. So there. How brain dead is his audience? Or how does he view them? It’s the cover up. It’s always the coverup. That is the problem.

MechanicalBill on May 8, 2013 at 11:08 PM

Can Jon Stewart name one ambassador killed on Bush’s watch? Um…I thought so. He’s a washed out comedian who’s getting old and unfunny, he’s following so close into Letterman’s steps that it’s almost sad…

jimver on May 9, 2013 at 2:44 PM

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