Romney to Reid: “I have paid taxes every year — and a lot of taxes”

posted at 4:41 pm on August 3, 2012 by Allahpundit

Love the bit at the end here about how this smear exposes Obama’s above-the-fray shtick as the cynical Hopenchange branding nonsense that it is. I also like the added emphasis on “a lot of taxes,” although Think Progress or TPM or whoever is no doubt working up a post right now explaining why the millions he’s paid over the years don’t really qualify as “a lot.”

Serious question: Should HuffPo have published Reid’s initial accusation about the mysterious Bain investor who allegedly called him about Romney? WaPo wonders:

In this case, the dissemination of Reid’s words is responsible, compulsory. It would be a shame, after all, if Reid’s constituents passed ignorant of the evidentiary standards to which he subjects his mudslinging…

In a world rigged by the Erik Wemple Blog, the legal system would be prejudiced in the opposite direction: Publications that failed to publish any and all false and defamatory charges made by public officials would be subject to criminal and civil liability. Professor Clay Calvert, the director of the Marion B. Brechner First Amendment Project at the University of Florida, says, “The real story is the fact that Reid made the allegation in the first place. The second story is whether the allegation is true.”

Yeah, I agree, albeit with misgivings. Reid’s being clever here in using his political stature to push this smear out: “Some anonymous guy told me Romney doesn’t pay his taxes” isn’t a newsworthy story, but “some anonymous guy told me Romney doesn’t pay his taxes, says Senate majority leader” assuredly is. If one of the most powerful Democrats in the country is being this much of a cretin, I want to know about it — even though publicizing his cretinism inadvertently spreads the allegation of Romney’s tax evasion. I think HuffPo had to run with it, even if spreading the allegation was their goal.


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Why are these highly moral democrats worrying about Romney’s taxes? Most democrat voters pay NO taxes.Shouldn’t the democrats be running on their record of governance? Why aren’t they?

birdwatcher on August 3, 2012 at 5:23 PM

Smartest President, evah.

Schadenfreude on August 3, 2012 at 5:24 PM

How many taxes has Nanzi Pelosi evaded with her tuna-canning factories?

SouthernGent on August 3, 2012 at 5:24 PM

Delusional leftists are the best kind.

Schadenfreude on August 3, 2012 at 5:18 PM

Because they taste like chicken?

cozmo on August 3, 2012 at 5:25 PM

Heh, but have you saved my message. inthemiddle saved my messages on the Palin thread, and apparently reported a bunch of us :)

Schadenfreude on August 3, 2012 at 5:02 PM

True, but in all fairness, I asked to be reported. Even gave the proper address, so as to be sure, might as well get it right. tips@hotair.com

Bmore on August 3, 2012 at 5:25 PM

lwssdd on August 3, 2012 at 5:19 PM

I understand you take on this issue.I agree that Democrats would eventually try to make just such a feeble argument.

However, it must be pointed out, for the sake of those selfsame Democrats, that it is not UNETHICAL, IMMORAL, or ILLEGAL to operate within the EXISTING LEGAL TAX CODE.

In fact, it is unethical, immoral, and illegal to operate outside of existing tax law. It is one’s DUTY to operate within those existing tax laws.

If Democrats don’t like existing tax laws, they should try to change them. The problem for Democrats arises in their insipid failure to grasp economics. The fact is that LAFFER ( See Laffer Curve) was right… there is a point at which taxes stifle growth, reduce overall revenues to the federal government, and damage the economy.

thatsafactjack on August 3, 2012 at 5:26 PM

John Kerry tried to register his yacht in Rhode Island to avoid paying the higher Massachusetts rate. Smooth move, senator.

birdwatcher on August 3, 2012 at 5:27 PM

Prove it Sketch! Release the tax returns now! Release them before we release them for you in October. And you know we will. You know it man! Idiot.

Uppereastside on August 3, 2012 at 4:48 PM

Release them, moron. Go ahead. We ALREADY know that Reid is lying because Romney paid taxes in 2010 and 2011 so he COULD NOT have failed to pay taxes in the last 10 years.

You guys go ahead and commit a slew of felonies. You are nothing but a bunch of thugs anyway.

Be careful bragging about October Surprises. Remember:

Who did the Obama Administration that it considered to be its #1 spy threat in the West?

Who has a 4 decades-long relationship with that country’s Prime Minister?

Doesn’t that country have one of the best intelligence forces on the planet?

What happens to Obama if their intelligence file makes its way into the Romney HQ?

Resist We Much on August 3, 2012 at 5:27 PM

Breitbart has offered $50K for a tape that is known to exist about a party that is known to have happened and that Barack Obama attended.

Release the tape Reid and show that you’re not a pedarast or whatever that is.

ted c on August 3, 2012 at 5:27 PM

for shame…..another Mormon on Mormon drive by shooting!

Deafdog on August 3, 2012 at 5:28 PM

“I have paid taxes every year — and a lot of taxes.”

It would be nice if this could be verified with . . . you know, tax records.

lostmotherland on August 3, 2012 at 4:46 PM

Any reasonably intelligent person, who actually pays taxes, would know that if someone of Romney’s wealth had not paid taxes for any year, the IRS would have come after them.

When it comes to money, the IRS is relentless. Liberals probably wouldn’t know this as well, because they typically tend to be deadbeats who sponge off the taxes that others pay.

Take for example Warren Buffet. The hypocrisy of this man and Obama is astounding, yet the media sweeps it under the rug. Buffet owes millions in back taxes and the IRS has come after him. Yet Buffet (and Obama) stand on the grandest stage of them all, and preaches how others should pay their fair share.

Here’s another example: Members of Obama’s administration owe nearly 1 million in back taxes. Shouldn’t an administration who preaches about how others should pay more in taxes, at least try to get their own taxes paid, before lecturing others?

BruthaMan on August 3, 2012 at 5:30 PM

The LA Time has the Rashid Khalidi tape and Tony Rezko is in federal prison. They need to cough up the tape and Tony Rezko, both….unedited.

ted c on August 3, 2012 at 5:30 PM

The last three Massachusetts Speaker of the House are all convicted felons. All of them democrats.

birdwatcher on August 3, 2012 at 5:30 PM

These angry declarations about how Obama will win indicate the only ones they are trying to convince are themselves. People convinced they will win don’t act like they have anger management issues.

NotCoach on August 3, 2012 at 5:22 PM

Indeed. If you want to know how this election is shaping up, ignore the polling and simply observe the behavior of the MSM, Team Barry, and Obama supporters in general.

Kataklysmic on August 3, 2012 at 5:31 PM

You like that road you’re driving on, Democrat?

Romney paid more taxes than you to have it funded.

Like your school?

Romney paid more taxes than you to have it funded.

HE BUILT THAT.

Good Lt on August 3, 2012 at 5:31 PM

Release the tape Reid and show that you’re not a pedarast or whatever that is.

ted c on August 3, 2012 at 5:27 PM

With all due respect (you’re one of my fav posters here), what the heck is a pedarast? Is that like a foot fetish or something?

BruthaMan on August 3, 2012 at 5:32 PM

I don’t think this is a good move. Giving in to the questioner by answering him means you acknowledge his question is valid and you are willing to answer. This will bring more such questions and you now must answer them. If you don’t answer those, you are open to questions like “You answered the first question. Why not this one?”

I think Romney is right to at least answer these charges, by asking the “anonymous” source for Reid’s allegation to identify himself and bring forth records. Romney also mentioned that the Senate hasn’t passed a budget in 3 years–he should tell Senate Majority Leader Reid that it’s HIS JOB to at least call for votes on a budget, and that Reid is NOT DOING HIS JOB.

Steve Z on August 3, 2012 at 5:32 PM

What makes anyone think he will even come close when the economy is churning 160k jobs 3 months before election day.

Uppereastside on August 3, 2012 at 5:12 PM

HAHAHA!

150,000 Americans DROPPED OUT of the work force in July.

The BLS “added” 377,000 jobs for seasonal purposes. This was the largest seasonal addition in the past decade for a July NFP print in the past decade, possibly ever.

But wait, there’s more: the Birth Death adjustment, which adds to the NSA Print to get to the final number, was +52k. How does this compare to July 2011? It is about 1000% higher: the last B/D adjustment was a tiny +5K! In other words, of the 163,000 jobs “added”, 429,000 was based on purely statistical fudging.

Today’s 8.3% jobless rate is exactly what it was in February 2009, when Obama got his $838 billion stimulus package. At that point, the civilian participation rate in the workforce was 65.8%. Today’s was 63.7%. In February 2009, we had 80.392 million people not participating in the workforce; as of July, that number has grown by almost eight million people, to 88.34 million, which took 42 months to grow. The time it took previous to February 2009 to add eight million to those not in the workforce was 92 months, more than double the amount of time.

Jobs Picture Comparison: January 2009 v. July 2012 — Stagnation Nation

M2RB: The Verve at Glastonbury

Resist We Much on August 3, 2012 at 5:33 PM

ted c on August 3, 2012 at 5:30 PM

It may also be well worth asking how coincidental it is that Jesse jackson Jr. has a breakdown and winds up being treated at Mayo for depression and ‘a gastrointestinal’ illness… just as the investigation into his alleged role in trying to purchase Obama’s vacated Senate seat from Blago( who is in prison over that same Senate seat) began to heat up.

thatsafactjack on August 3, 2012 at 5:34 PM

In other news……

This was just another Democrat distraction from today’s horrible numbers. And investigations going forward, such as Solyndra.

Distraction by Democrat.

ProfShadow on August 3, 2012 at 5:35 PM

Could somebody please ask the huffington post why the lakoff they haven’t reported that Harry Reid is a pederast?

RushBaby on August 3, 2012 at 5:35 PM

It’s a man who likes little children too much

Slade73 on August 3, 2012 at 5:35 PM

Reid has not released his tax records.

Obama refused to release hardly anything. Not even his Birth Certificate to anyone that could actually verify it (internet does not count try that to get a DL). He is the most secret President ever in office. He even uses his private Blackberry instead of a Government phone as required by law.

Romney should release the copies of his tax checks for the last 12 years. That would shut them up. Better still hire an accounting firm to total up all the taxes he has paid in the last 12 years and just release the combined figure.

Steveangell on August 3, 2012 at 5:36 PM

However, it must be pointed out, for the sake of those selfsame Democrats, that it is not UNETHICAL, IMMORAL, or ILLEGAL to operate within the EXISTING LEGAL TAX CODE.

thatsafactjack on August 3, 2012 at 5:26 PM

Only Democrats consider it a crime to obey tax laws!

ANYONE MAY ARRANGE HIS AFFAIRS SO THAT HIS TAXES SHALL BE AS LOW AS POSSIBLE; he is not bound to choose that pattern which best pays the treasury. THERE IS NOT EVEN A PATRIOTIC DUTY TO INCREASE ONE’S TAXES.

OVER AND OVER AGAIN THE COURTS HAVE SAID THAT THERE IS NOTHING SINISTER IN SO ARRANGING HIS AFFAIRS AS TO KEEP TAXES AS LOW AS POSSIBLE. Everyone does it, rich and poor alike and all do right, for NOBODY OWES ANY PUBLIC DUTY TO PAY MORE THAN THE LAW DEMANDS.

- Judge Learned Hand

Resist We Much on August 3, 2012 at 5:37 PM

Prove it Sketch! Release the tax returns now! Release them before we release them for you in October. And you know we will. You know it man! Idiot.

Uppereastside on August 3, 2012 at 4:48 PM

This troll is calling for and sanctioning the commission of felonies.

The first time this troll made this call yesterday it was informed it was calling for people to commit felonies. It backed off.

Now it is doing it again in full knowledge of what it is advocating.

Does HA tolerate open obvious explicit serious calls to commit felonies?

farsighted on August 3, 2012 at 5:37 PM

Why aren’t the democrats asking for The Fast and Furious documents to be released? People died because of that.

birdwatcher on August 3, 2012 at 5:37 PM

With all due respect (you’re one of my fav posters here), what the heck is a pedarast? Is that like a foot fetish or something?

BruthaMan on August 3, 2012 at 5:32 PM

bruthaman—I have no earthly idea what a pedarast is, but, I know that Harry Reid happens to be one.

/for certain

ted c on August 3, 2012 at 5:38 PM

What makes anyone think he will even come close when the economy is churning 160k jobs 3 months before election day.

Uppereastside on August 3, 2012 at 5:12 PM

Unemployment still went up and almost as many people gave up looking for work as got jobs.

(That’s bad)

Chuck Schick on August 3, 2012 at 5:38 PM

Why release them when he knows he can’t win anyway. Come on, he never led in any meaningful poll when the economy was creating 60k jobs a month.

Uppereastside on August 3, 2012 at 5:12 PM

Since when are Gallup, Rasmussen, the NYT, and CBS polls not considered “meaningful”?

Resist We Much on August 3, 2012 at 5:39 PM

Resist We Much on August 3, 2012 at 5:37 PM

Thank you, RMW. Excellent quote.

thatsafactjack on August 3, 2012 at 5:39 PM

It may also be well worth asking how coincidental it is that Jesse jackson Jr. has a breakdown and winds up being treated at Mayo for depression and ‘a gastrointestinal’ illness… just as the investigation into his alleged role in trying to purchase Obama’s vacated Senate seat from Blago( who is in prison over that same Senate seat) began to heat up.

thatsafactjack on August 3, 2012 at 5:34 PM

I call bullshizzat on this. JJ Jr. is being taken off the board quietly because he’s now a liability, he knows too much. David and Val needed to get rid of him, cool him, get him out of Chicago. He’ll be “all better” soon, or he’ll take a drastic turn for the worse.

just watch.

ted c on August 3, 2012 at 5:40 PM

Obama stole 500 million dollars from the American taxpayers just on the Solyndra deal. Where is the outrage from the left about that? Oh yeah, the left don’t pay taxes.

birdwatcher on August 3, 2012 at 5:40 PM

(That’s bad)

Chuck Schick on August 3, 2012 at 5:38 PM

sorry Chuck. Nancy Pelosi says it’s a step in the right direction

Slade73 on August 3, 2012 at 5:40 PM

Then ask your no candidate to release them then. It will come out. Trust me. Then again the idiot can never be president. He probably knows it hence the reason he won’t release the returns. Why release them when he knows he can’t win anyway. Come on, he never led in any meaningful poll when the economy was creating 60k jobs a month. What makes anyone think he will even come close when the economy is churning 160k jobs 3 months before election day.

Uppereastside on August 3, 2012 at 5:12 PM

Start taking your meds, freak.

wargamer6 on August 3, 2012 at 5:41 PM

Y’all, the desperation in UES palpable.

cozmo on August 3, 2012 at 5:42 PM

Uppereastside on August 3, 2012 at 4:48 PM

Copy and paste much eh? Lol, not an original thought in that empty head of yours is there?

Scrumpy on August 3, 2012 at 4:53 PM

Yeastie Noyz reminds me of this song:

You Happy Puppet – 10,000 Maniacs

How did they teach you to be just a happy puppet dancing on a string?
How did you learn everything that comes along with slavish funnery?
Tell me something, if the world is so insane,
is it making you sane again to let another man tug at the thread that pulls up your nodding head?

How did they teach you to be just a happy puppet dancing on a string?
How do you manage to live inside this tiny stage you can’t leave?
Tell me something, if the world is so insane,
is it making you sane again to let another man tug at the thread that pulls up your nodding head?

A dullard strung on the wire.
When the master’s gone you hang there with your eyes and your limbs so lifeless.

How did they teach you to be just a happy puppet dancing on a string?
How do you manage to speak, your mouth a frozen grin?

A dullard strung on the wire.
When the master’s gone you hang there with your eyes and your limbs so lifeless.

Tell me something, if the world is so insane,
is it making you sane again to let another man tug at the thread that pulls up your empty wooden head?

Your hollow head, your marble eyes, your wooden hands and your metal jaw pins
all wait in limbo for the man who knows how to move you this way

Resist We Much on August 3, 2012 at 5:42 PM

Thank you, RMW. Excellent quote.

thatsafactjack on August 3, 2012 at 5:39 PM

You’re welcome. Judge Hand is an American legend.

Resist We Much on August 3, 2012 at 5:43 PM

This is such a lame argument from the left- Romney himself has stated that he’s been audited several times, people smart enough to make the kind of money he has, don’ t open the door for more audits by cheating on their taxes.

BettyRuth on August 3, 2012 at 5:46 PM

Prove it Sketch! Release the tax returns now! Release them before we release them for you in October. And you know we will. You know it man! Idiot.

Uppereastside on August 3, 2012 at 4:48 PM

Reid and Pelosi have not released theirs, so why should Romney? He is not the one making the charge…let the man bringing the charge back it up or shut up.

Democrats have no respect for the law..none.

Terrye on August 3, 2012 at 5:47 PM

Distraction by Democrat.

ProfShadow on August 3, 2012 at 5:35 PM

mission accomplished?

cmsinaz on August 3, 2012 at 5:49 PM

Then ask your no candidate to release them then. It will come out. Trust me. Then again the idiot can never be president. He probably knows it hence the reason he won’t release the returns. Why release them when he knows he can’t win anyway. Come on, he never led in any meaningful poll when the economy was creating 60k jobs a month. What makes anyone think he will even come close when the economy is churning 160k jobs 3 months before election day.

Uppereastside on August 3, 2012 at 5:12 PM

Your president sucks on the economy…every poll says it..BTW, when is Obama going to release those Fast and Furious documents. I wonder what he is hiding..it must be big.

Terrye on August 3, 2012 at 5:49 PM

Prove it….

Uppereastside on August 3, 2012 at 4:48 PM

Apparently UES does not realize that under the American Justice system, it is incumbent for the one making the charge to prove the case and not the other way around. But it is hard for an idiot like UES to understand anything American.

bayview on August 3, 2012 at 5:50 PM

Uppereastside on August 3rd, 2012 At 4:48 p.m.

Quiet down Virginia. The grownups are talking now.

ManWithNoParty on August 3, 2012 at 5:52 PM

ted c on August 3, 2012 at 5:40 PM

I’ll be as clear as I can…

I believe, upon hearing how strong the case against him really is, Jesse Jackson Jr. may have… lost control of his intestines….and is deeply depressed by, and feels ‘ill’, at the thought of the prison sentence that now looms before him.

I believe that this stint at Mayo is a construct of his attorney, to provide a basis for him to claim that his mental faculties were compromised at the time that the Blago deal was being negotiated… and try to claim innocence by diminished capacity… and…. failing that.. he would try to make the case that…. due to his poor health and nervous condition… he should he either given probation/community service… house arrest… or at least not serve in the general population of prison.

In short, I think its all staging for the upcoming trial.

Is he depressed. Probably. Is he feeling ill at his prospects and ruined career? Probably.

Mitigating factors or circumstance? No.

thatsafactjack on August 3, 2012 at 5:52 PM

Hey Allah – Did CNN cut the video short to mitigate damage? I didn’t get that whole feeling he was done cutting it down.

SkinnerVic on August 3, 2012 at 5:53 PM

To a Communist president and his DNC suck-ups & Old Media whores the trillions they’ve squandered over the past 3 1/2 years makes them think that paying millions in taxes isn’t a lot.

viking01 on August 3, 2012 at 5:55 PM

Prove it….

Uppereastside on August 3, 2012 at 4:48 PM

Apparently UES does not realize that under the American Justice system, it is incumbent for the one making the charge to prove the case and not the other way around. But it is hard for an idiot like UES to understand anything American.

bayview on August 3, 2012 at 5:50 PM

This is true..it is also true that a lot of people wonder how a man who makes $193,000 a year ended up being worth more than 10 million..but then Harry Reid refuses to release his tax returns so I guess we will just have to assume that he is not only a pervert, he is a crook.

Terrye on August 3, 2012 at 5:59 PM

Prove it Sketch! Release the tax returns now! Release them before we release them for you in October. And you know we will. You know it man! Idiot.

Uppereastside on August 3, 2012 at 4:48 PM

In your own little World, does it really $^!# matter?

BallisticBob on August 3, 2012 at 6:00 PM

Progressives like Harry Reid and his ilk worship only one god……..Political power.

They will do anything for it. Like Obama they will leave the dying infant that survived an abortion on the table . They will support Death Panels to get Granny dead since she’s not part of the “Complete Lives System”. Progressives will destroy ANYONE that threatens their god.

Bork, Reagan, Palin, Clarence Thomas, etc.

This is why Conservatives cannot defeat Progressives (so far) . For Progressives the Government is their life, and their “God” MUST BE SERVED.

Progressivism……….the Darwinists political arm.

PappyD61 on August 3, 2012 at 6:01 PM

Word is out that Harry Reid is a child molester. I want to see proof that he is not.

maryo on August 3, 2012 at 6:02 PM

Then ask your no candidate to release them then. It will come out. Trust me. Then again the idiot can never be president. He probably knows it hence the reason he won’t release the returns. Why release them when he knows he can’t win anyway. Come on, he never led in any meaningful poll when the economy was creating 60k jobs a month. What makes anyone think he will even come close when the economy is churning 160k jobs 3 months before election day.

Uppereastside on August 3, 2012 at 5:12 PM

-he doesnt have to release them
-if something was done illegally its up to the accusers to prove it
-he hasnt done anything wrong, but as someone who has seen (and prepraed) some 1%er tax returns, you can find lots of thing ‘civilians’ wouldnt uinderstand about how tax law works, and demogogue it, and create a false “narrative” which is the only reason (for the smart ones not the useful idiots, like you) your side is asking for it
- he is actually finally starting to realize he CAN win, which is why he wont give your side the chum
- he leads in the only meaningful polls actually (proper DRIs, LVs etc) and your hero is actually been behind in all of them except the cooked ones
- how does ANYONE who prfesses to be “intelligent” think a president deserves re-election that creates 160K jobs per month as a good month; think about that. thats kinda crazy. noone thinks thats good. no one.

i know its a waste of time, but everything you said was basically wrong. i just wanted to help you. even tho i know you will piss all over me for trying. but i did it anyway.

t8stlikchkn on August 3, 2012 at 6:06 PM

rove it Sketch! Release the tax returns now! Release them before we release them for you in October. And you know we will. You know it man! Idiot.

Uppereastside on August 3, 2012 at 4:48 PM

Su-u-u-re you will, you nutless wonder. What’s with the “we”? You got a gerbil in your pants?

Solaratov on August 3, 2012 at 6:08 PM

Romney certainly can afford the best in tax accountants and tax attorneys so the likelihood of anything even slightly questionable is practically nil. Successful and influential people realize they can be targeted by the IRS faster than a Clinton ex-girlfriend so they take precautions above and beyond those less noticeable.

Not to mention if there were the slightest discrepancy sleazy Eric Holder would no doubt have leaked it months ago.

viking01 on August 3, 2012 at 6:12 PM

Reid is not clever – and only a RINO would think so.

Reid is a Crook. Romney’s campaign should be using things like this 2003 LA Times story on Reid.

THE SENATORS’ SONS
In Nevada, the Name to Know is Reid
Members of one lawmaker’s family represent nearly every major industry in their home state. And their clients rely on his goodwill.

By Chuck Neubauer and Richard T. Cooper | LA Times Staff Writers | June 23, 2003

Falcon46 on August 3, 2012 at 6:15 PM

Romney has called Dingy’s bluff. It’s time for Dingy to reveal his pair of deuces if he wants a kick at the pot.

kim roy on August 3, 2012 at 5:04 PM

A pair? He has a 7 high at the most.

NotCoach on August 3, 2012 at 5:09 PM

I disagree. He’s dimwitted enough to think that he can win with a pair of 2s. If he only had a high 7 he might have walked after the first comment.

Or maybe he really is THAT stupid.

*confused*

Well…. maybe you are right.

kim roy on August 3, 2012 at 6:16 PM

I heard from reliable sources that Harry was a member of a Neveda ‘choom gang’ and until he can prove it…he’s a habitual Ganga Yamuna smoker.

GodogGo on August 3, 2012 at 6:18 PM

Romney certainly can afford the best in tax accountants and tax attorneys so the likelihood of anything even slightly questionable is practically nil. Successful and influential people realize they can be targeted by the IRS faster than a Clinton ex-girlfriend so they take precautions above and beyond those less noticeable.

Not to mention if there were the slightest discrepancy sleazy Eric Holder would no doubt have leaked it months ago.

viking01 on August 3, 2012 at 6:12 PM

True. Axleshaft has already picked over Governor Romney’s tax returns for twenty years and there’s nothing there. The demand for the Governor to release them is just another act in the class warfare game.

slickwillie2001 on August 3, 2012 at 6:20 PM

Word is out that Harry Reid is a child molester. I want to see proof that he is not.

maryo on August 3, 2012 at 6:02 PM

I read that somewhere else. That’s disturbing. He needs to prove that he’s not, or he’s obviously hiding something.

(And demonstrating that you’re dickless, Harry, isn’t sufficient.)

justltl on August 3, 2012 at 6:21 PM

This should have been followed by, “And unlike Harry Reid and Barack Obama, I bought the land I own legally, and without the help of political chronies and folks who are currently in jail”. Mitt, take the gloves off.

bob77 on August 3, 2012 at 6:21 PM

Any reasonably intelligent person, who actually pays taxes, would know that if someone of Romney’s wealth had not paid taxes for any year, the IRS would have come after them.

When it comes to money, the IRS is relentless. Liberals probably wouldn’t know this as well, because they typically tend to be deadbeats who sponge off the taxes that others pay.

(snip)

BruthaMan on August 3, 2012 at 5:30 PM

Wesley Snipes weeps.

kim roy on August 3, 2012 at 6:22 PM

In the meantime, American voters are wondering why Romney is afraid to release his tax returns.

I myself am wondering what he is hiding. More contributions to Abortions-R-Us, or worse?

DannoJyd on August 3, 2012 at 6:25 PM

In the meantime, American voters are wondering why Romney is afraid to release his tax returns.

DannoJyd on August 3, 2012 at 6:25 PM

Harry Reid approves this message of yours too.

cozmo on August 3, 2012 at 6:27 PM

In the meantime, American voters are wondering why Romney is afraid to release his tax returns.

Not a majority…in any — to use Yeastie Noyz’s word — “meaningful” poll.

Resist We Much on August 3, 2012 at 6:28 PM

Obama and Reid are like rabid dogs and will infect anything they touch. The Romney campaign needs to lay it on them hard and never give them an another opening.

rplat on August 3, 2012 at 6:32 PM

Any reasonably intelligent person, who actually pays taxes, would know that if someone of Romney’s wealth had not paid taxes for any year, the IRS would have come after them.

BruthaMan on August 3, 2012 at 5:30 PM

Good point. I did not even think about it because I assume Reid is lying his a$$ off.

A $0 owed at the end of tax forms that show an income of millions of dollars would cause the IRS tax return processing system to trigger human intervention and review.

If that happened several years in a row, or if the total paid over that time was zero or less, it would likely trigger a proctological level audit.

farsighted on August 3, 2012 at 6:39 PM

With very little digging you can figure out that there isn’t a solid 10 year period where there isn’t some sort of information about Romney’s taxes. Romney released his 2010 and 2011 taxes. His 2006 taxes are also out there (source is opensecrets.org). The very time period that the Obama campaign accused Romney of being a felon was already vetted when Romney ran for Gov. Of Mass. Because they tried to use his 1999 and 2000 tax returns to keep him off the ballot. We know he owned stock in Bain is 1998 and he wasn’t arrested or charged for not filing his taxes and again the following two years of taxes were already vetted by the Democrats. He started at Bain in 1983, so from 1983 to 1997 we are suppose to believe he didn’t pay taxes even when he had a run for the Senate in 1994.

(typed from iPhone, sorry for typos)

TturnP on August 3, 2012 at 6:43 PM

A week ago the entire ‘issue’ was about Romney releasing his taxes. Today most of it is about Little Harry Reid’s imaginary friend, I’ll call him ‘Fluffy’.

Unless Harry produces ‘Fluffy’ I fail to see how this has legs for the left.

JIMV on August 3, 2012 at 6:49 PM

Uppereastside on August 3, 2012 at 4:48 PM

Su-u-u-re you will, you nutless wonder. What’s with the “we”? You got a gerbil in your pants?

Solaratov on August 3, 2012 at 6:08 PM

Probably a squirrel.

Del Dolemonte on August 3, 2012 at 6:53 PM

Think Progress or TPM or whoever is no doubt working up a post right now explaining why the millions he’s paid over the years don’t really qualify as “a lot.”

And what will they say? That he didn’t pay a lot for his wealth? That would be like saying Shaq O’Neil isn’t tall for his weight.

VorDaj on August 3, 2012 at 6:55 PM

Let’s review:

1. Mitt bullied some poor, gay child in HS about 40 years ago.
2. Mitt abused his poor doggie 25 years ago.
3. Mitt outsourced jobs with Bain after he left Bain.
4. Mitt is a felon for saying he did not work at Bain during the time he did not work at Bain.
5. Mitt’s wife has a horse in the Olympics.
6. Mitt hasn’t paid taxes for a decade.

Life on the high road. Keep them coming Barack. You’ve spent over $100M and you haven’t laid a glove on Mitt.

MJBrutus on August 3, 2012 at 6:59 PM

Good point. I did not even think about it because I assume Reid is lying his a$$ off.

A $0 owed at the end of tax forms that show an income of millions of dollars would cause the IRS tax return processing system to trigger human intervention and review.

If that happened several years in a row, or if the total paid over that time was zero or less, it would likely trigger a proctological level audit.

farsighted on August 3, 2012 at 6:39 PM

re: the 1%ers tax returns since 08, many do show -0- taxable income; legitimately, correctly. with pship losses passing thru and other investment that pass thru ordinary losses, coupled with large charitable donations (which can max deduct 50% of AGI) and with large capital lossses carried fwd (most all have them) offsetting any current gains, once you throw all that inot the pot, the ord losses offwsertting other invest income (int & divs) you end up at -0- sometimes. and some have large NOLs (net oper losses) meaning their “income” is negative in a single year, obviously no “regualr” income taxes due then (except sched H hosuehold employemnt taxes, mitt hasd those in 2010, nannies for example and SE tax, which mitt also has, self-employment tax on net self-employment income). so a proper correct tax return for many years CAN show negtiove income and no tax due. thats the kind fos tuff harry reid would take to the uniformed and turn into a crime. rather than educate, he would dumb people down. mitts 2010 sched B had a foreign bank acct reported, which could mean anything. there are LOTS of people with $1500 in foreign accounts that report the same thing on their sched B and they arent in the 1%. you’d need to see his FBAR report (direct to treas dept) to know how much was in the account and THATS not a part of a tax return. at least not until 2011 when they created a new form 8938 which DOES report that stuff now. first time in 2011. inside the actual return.

t8stlikchkn on August 3, 2012 at 6:59 PM

I think Reid and “Think Progress” and TPM should say that Romney won’t release his older tax returns because in those he was using the SSN of a dead guy from Connecticut.

VorDaj on August 3, 2012 at 6:59 PM

Oh, and also Romney, in an older return, paid some taxes on a scholarship he got as a foreign student.

VorDaj on August 3, 2012 at 7:00 PM

In the meantime, American voters are wondering why Romney is afraid to release his tax returns.

DannoJyd on August 3, 2012 at 6:25 PM

Romney donated his entire salary from the SLC Olympics back to the Olympics. He also turned down a salary from the State of Massachusetts while he served as governor.

He likely underpaid on his taxes for those years because he technically didn’t earn anything and just lived of his savings.

You and your bigoted racist dark overlords in Chicago want to misrepresent this in your advertising, but you can’t until you get your hands on the papers. But Romney is smarter than you and isn’t falling for your saturday morning cartoon super-villian plots.

Romney owns you, Danno. You’re his intellectual prison-@#$%&.

Alberta_Patriot on August 3, 2012 at 7:01 PM

Reid and “Think Progress” and TPM should also say that thier sources have told them that there some very questionable items in some of those older Romney returns dealing with real estate deals in Chicago and Nevada.

VorDaj on August 3, 2012 at 7:05 PM

Harry can’t reveal his source (used to be plural)…it’s a felony to release such things under laws passed when other laws were passed to give the IRS authority to know what color underwear you have (if you choose to do so but if commando they know that too).

Mitt’s returns have certainly been scrutinized from the minute they hit the IRS mailroom. For people that don’t like the answer??? change the law (hint…ain’t gonna happen…our tax code has made a lot of people charged with enforcing it wealthly, me included).

teejk on August 3, 2012 at 7:10 PM

t8stlikchkn on August 3, 2012 at 6:59 PM

I am reasonably familiar with the tax code.

I’m not saying it is not possible for Romney to have not paid any taxes for ten years.

I’m saying that at some point a preponderance of $0 tax owed returns that report actual income (I am not talking about “taxable” income) in the millions of dollars would trigger human intervention and review.

Enough of them enough years in a row from a prominent high name recognition person would trigger a major league audit.

If that happened to Romney he passed all IRS scrutiny with flying colors.

That should put to rest any speculation there is anything wrong with his tax returns, that he is “hiding” anything.

farsighted on August 3, 2012 at 7:12 PM

Romney is a smart man. He has always had an eye for politics and public service. I don’t think he would be dumb enough to screw up his taxes. I smell a trap, and the idiots on the left are walking right into it.

birdwatcher on August 3, 2012 at 7:15 PM

Prove it Sketch! Release the tax returns now! Release them before we release them for you in October. And you know we will. You know it man! Idiot.

Uppereastside on August 3, 2012 at 4:48 PM

Oh, you will?

And where did you get them?

Trust us. We can make that an even bigger issue. Barack Obama is a desperate tin-pot dictator who will break whatever law he wants in his attempts to get re-elected.

This is why the Chick-Fil-A thing blew up in your faces, lefty. You’ve been in your echo chambers for so long, you’ve lost all touch with reality. :)

northdallasthirty on August 3, 2012 at 7:15 PM

A $0 owed at the end of tax forms that show an income of millions of dollars would cause the IRS tax return processing system to trigger human intervention and review.

If that happened several years in a row, or if the total paid over that time was zero or less, it would likely trigger a proctological level audit.

farsighted on August 3, 2012 at 6:39 PM

Not to mention the simple expedient of the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT).

Meanwhile, we haven’t even gotten into the amusement value of the liberal trolls like Uppereastside screaming themselves hoarse accusing Romney of being a tax cheat when they endorse elect, and employ tax cheats themselves.

Since Obama himself is and employs tax cheats, why should we care what Romney does?

northdallasthirty on August 3, 2012 at 7:20 PM

This is why the Chick-Fil-A thing blew up in your faces, lefty. You’ve been in your echo chambers for so long, you’ve lost all touch with reality. :)

northdallasthirty on August 3, 2012 at 7:15 PM

Assuming they ever had touch with reality. Lol! Allah just posted a couple of nice vids of UES.

Bmore on August 3, 2012 at 7:20 PM

UES

Bmore on August 3, 2012 at 7:22 PM

“The word’s out that he hasn’t paid ANY taxes for 10 years. Let him prove that he has paid taxes, because he hasn’t.”

- Senator Harry Reid

You lie!

He paid $3,009,766 in Federal income taxes in 2010.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/documents/romney-2010-tax-return.html

He paid $3,226,623 in Federal income taxes in 2011.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/documents/romney-2011-estimated-1040.html

It’s time to punish this batard.

Resist We Much on August 3, 2012 at 7:25 PM

Enough of them enough years in a row from a prominent high name recognition person would trigger a major league audit.

farsighted on August 3, 2012 at 7:12 PM

Obama has no clue what it is to be successful. What he’s implying is that you have to be a criminal to be successful. That’s been his message from day 1. But it’s also sending a message that Obama has no clue how to be successful and that anyone who is successful will be treated as a criminal.

The only concern I have is that he’s still pushing this. Now, unlike others, I know that Obama is a terrible campaigner. He’s never won an election where he actually had to run against someone aside from the 2008 election and even there, I don’t think that’s an exception to the rule. But even so, I’m having difficulty believing that Obama would be pushing a theme that isn’t having some effect. Maybe he’s in a corner and doesn’t want to let up even if he’s going down too? That’s a typical liberal tactic. Still, something doesn’t sit right with this strategy. Romney sounds downright cool and in control on this issue. So I dunno.

MrX on August 3, 2012 at 7:26 PM

upper east lives on food stamps and a few pennies earned bothering people that like to engage in rational debate.

teejk on August 3, 2012 at 7:30 PM

Prove it….

Uppereastside on August 3, 2012 at 4:48 PM

…Virgina is a BIG TAX CHEAT…stubble and all!

KOOLAID2 on August 3, 2012 at 7:30 PM

What he’s implying is that you have to be a criminal to be successful. That’s been his message from day 1. But it’s also sending a message that Obama has no clue how to be successful and that anyone who is successful will be treated as a criminal.

MrX on August 3, 2012 at 7:26 PM

This is why I consider Obama an outright socialist. It is a matter of faith among socialists that almost all wealth is ill gotten, that it is made on the backs of and by exploiting the workers, and by manipulating an inherently corrupt capitalist system.

Much of Obama’s campaign rhetoric and many of his attacks are watered down versions and variations on this theme.

farsighted on August 3, 2012 at 7:39 PM

JJ Jr. is having his colon dilated just in case.

SurferDoc on August 3, 2012 at 7:52 PM

Uppereastside on August 3, 2012 at 4:48 PM

Su-u-u-re you will, you nutless wonder. What’s with the “we”? You got a gerbil in your pants?

Solaratov on August 3, 2012 at 6:08 PM

Probably a squirrel.

Del Dolemonte on August 3, 2012 at 6:53 PM

America’s Biggest Problem

GrannyDee on August 3, 2012 at 7:55 PM

Then ask your no candidate to release them then. It will come out. Trust me. Then again the idiot can never be president. He probably knows it hence the reason he won’t release the returns. Why release them when he knows he can’t win anyway. Come on, he never led in any meaningful poll when the economy was creating 60k jobs a month. What makes anyone think he will even come close when the economy is churning 160k jobs 3 months before election day.

Uppereastside on August 3, 2012 at 5:12 PM

Of course we trust you, dear. Why wouldn’t we? Now, go on back to the group, they are about to do finger painting. You wouldn’t want to miss that, now would you?

Night Owl on August 3, 2012 at 7:57 PM

To be fair, Senator Reid’s anonymous source is every bit as reliable as Dan Rather’s source was in Memogate.

At least CBS kicked Rather off of 60 Minutes. Too bad the majority of voters in Nevada haven’t kicked Senator Reid out of the Senate.

MessesWithTexas on August 3, 2012 at 5:00 PM

There is no source. You don’t need a source to support a complete fabrication.

Basilsbest on August 3, 2012 at 8:05 PM

Anyone with one fourth a brain would have seen that what Reid was doing was stupid, underhanded and simply disgusting. There can be no understanding of Huffpo’s running with this story or understanding the need to…. except, maybe those who say they understand are as stupid as Reid and is ilk.

MNDavenotPC on August 3, 2012 at 9:10 PM

Word is out that Harry Reid is a child molester. I want to see proof that he is not.

maryo on August 3, 2012 at 6:02 PM

I heard that he was a pedophile rapist.

Rio Linda Refugee on August 3, 2012 at 9:13 PM

Pic of the Day: ‘Fess Up, Harry

http://predicthistunpredictpast.blogspot.com/2012/08/pic-of-day-fess-up-harry.html

M2RB: Twisted Sister

Resist We Much on August 3, 2012 at 9:23 PM

Saw a great quote on FaceBook today– who do you want investing yourmoney, Obama or Romney?

obladioblada on August 3, 2012 at 10:43 PM

Prove it Sketch! Release the tax returns now! Release them before we release them for you in October. And you know we will. You know it man! Idiot.

Uppereastside on August 3, 2012 at 4:48 PM

you and your side have shite, cretin, this is why you so desperately want him to release them, now that you mad total fools of yourselves, you have to put up or shut up :-) and you know what the total fun is, he will release nada, absolutamente nada….so, show us what you’ve got :-)…yeah, I thought so, more of the same ole obama kaka :-)…

jimver on August 4, 2012 at 12:02 AM

I have BETTER answer for Harry Reid – “You SEE what happens. Harry?? Do you SEE WHAT HAPPENS, HARRY?!!!”

“DO YOU SEE WHAT HAPPENS. HARRY – WHEN YOU………”

EXTREME CONTENT WARNING!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YZ_vBoBoLo&feature=fvsr

williamg on August 4, 2012 at 12:35 AM

Reid’s being clever here in using his political stature to push this smear out

Clever? that is not the word I would use.

CW on August 4, 2012 at 7:29 AM

Don’t release the records. They’ll have about as much effect as Obama posting his BC did on the birthtards: Nothing. Nada. Nil.

MelonCollie on August 4, 2012 at 9:08 AM

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