Romney on Chick-fil-A: That’s not something that’s part of my campaign; Update: Obama ducks too

posted at 6:07 pm on August 3, 2012 by Allahpundit

Via the Examiner, I understand why he punted here. His retort to Reid’s tax-evasion smear last night was that it’s an obvious, grotesque attempt to hand the media a new distraction from Obama’s record. He just got back from a foreign policy trip/photo op that was also submerged in distractions, most notably his Olympics comments in London and his aide’s “kiss my ass” comments to the press in Poland. He’s just begun pushing a more positive message keyed to his biography to convince undecideds that he’s up to the job. The last thing he wants right now is another distraction wrapped around his ankles, particularly on a day when the news is about the latest disappointing jobs report.

Given that the Chick-fil-A question here was packaged with another question about Bachmann and the Muslim Brotherhood, he had two dilemmas. One: If he weighs in on either, that’s a story and now suddenly he’s being asked about gay marriage and Islamism instead of jobs for the middle class. If you want a candidate who’s more interested in culture-war issues than economic growth, try Romney 2008. Two: If he weighs in only on Chick-fil-A, the easier of the two topics, then there’ll be a separate story on why he specifically ducked the question about Bachmann and he’ll hear it from her supporters and from the media for dodging. He probably figured he was better off playing it safe (as usual) and passing on both. Hey — if you wanted a nominee who’d inch out on the highwire to answer any question put to him, you should have nominated Newt.

Still, hurts to know that even a tool like Mike Bloomberg is capable of offering a righteous answer on CFA when called on to do so:

Critics trying to shut Chick-fil-A because its CEO opposes gay marriage are undermining the very essence of the Constitution, Mayor Bloomberg declared today in a stirring defense of the embattled fast food chain.

“It isn’t the right thing to do and it isn’t what America stands for,” Bloomberg said on his weekly WOR radio show. “And those people who don’t like (Chick-fil-A) don’t understand their rights were protected by people who took a difficult position in the past and stood by it. They stood up so everybody else would be free.”…

“What’s for sure is that government cannot in the United States, in America, under the Constitution, be run where you have a litmus test for the personal views of somebody when they want something in the commercial world.”

Barney Frank also managed to say a word against government discrimination towards Chick-fil-A. Ah well. Maybe Mitt will get another question about this tomorrow and say something about free speech even if he ends up avoiding the subject of gay marriage. Speaking of which, enjoy the second clip below. Not sure what’s gotten into Stewart lately, but this is a rare week during which most of his big hits have been at the expense of Democrats. Exit quotation via Mediaite: “Pretty sure you can’t outlaw a company with perfectly legal business practices because you find their CEO’s views repellant. Not sure which amendment covers that, but it’s probably in the top 1.”

Update: Evidently the “evolution” is over:

Obama, already in favor of gay marriage, has little to gain by weighing in against a private company that operates primarily in red states on an issue that has already inflamed social conservatives. He has treaded lightly on the issue on the campaign trail, touting the repeal of the military’s “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy but avoided new calls for legalizing gay marriage since announcing he supported it in May.

Several officials in Obama’s White House and campaign did not respond Friday to requests for comment about Chick-fil-A. And there’s reason for the president to keep the issues away from the center of his reelection campaign. Obama can’t afford to alienate religious conservatives in the black community or give blue-collar Democratic whites in Ohio and Virginia another reason to vote against him.

Not a word from the president of the United States in defense of a business owner’s right to hold the political views he prefers without fear of government retribution?


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Neither is winning any part of the Romney campaign. I guess he must like 0bama since he also worked behind the scenes to ensure a McCain loss in 2008.

DannoJyd on August 3, 2012 at 6:12 PM

Nice conspiracy theory there, Danno. Got proof?

(and no, “He’s a mormon” doesn’t count)

Alberta_Patriot on August 3, 2012 at 6:40 PM

This is Mitt Romney he is accusing…people who accuse Romney of all manner of dastardly deeds do not feel as if they need proof…their hate is enough.

Terrye on August 3, 2012 at 6:43 PM

How the CFA story played out, with the lines and lines of paying customers on Wednesday, is a good, solid, late-summer jab against the left. It’s not the kind of thing that constitutes a sustained theme, so Romney can sweep it away if he thinks it’s to his advantage to do so, especially two days afterward.

What constitutes a sustained theme are the words of dear ruler: “If you’ve got a business, (in sneering tone) you didn’t build that! Somebody else made that happen!” THAT is what will maintain a shelf life through November. The pictures of crowds at CFA will be a positive reminder that we have big numbers, and if so many of us can turn out to wait an hour for a chicken sandwich, then many more of us will damn sure be at the polls on Tuesday the 6th.

86 on August 3, 2012 at 6:43 PM

There’s nothing funny about his failure to stand with Bachmann and the others-much less to offer an opinion either way. There’s no middle ground there- you either stand with Bachmann or the Muslim Brotherhood. American security or Islamist infiltration.

I’ve already decided I will not be voting for Romney. Anyone here still considering to vote for him should think twice about that in light of Romney’s failure step up today.

sartana on August 3, 2012 at 6:42 PM

Spoken like a genius. Obama sure is focused on American security and strict opposition to jihadists.

Your choices are crappy, but one’s less so than the other.

John_Locke on August 3, 2012 at 6:44 PM

Romney’s rich, he won’t release his tax returns, his dog, his wife, his wife’s horse, he discussed London’s preparation for the Olympics, he won’t talk about Chick-fil-A. All distractions. Romney has learned from 2008 and this campaign. Talk about why you want to become President, because you may not get another chance.

Paul-Cincy on August 3, 2012 at 6:45 PM

Do I agree. Leaders lead. Politicians maneuver and play it safe.

INC on August 3, 2012 at 6:36 PM

And? Were you expecting something else? This is what he is and what we’re getting. If by some stroke of luck he does more then bonus.

We are buying time. Isn’t that enough right now? It’s going to take at least a few congressional cycles and one or two of the senate to purge the RINOs and idiots.

kim roy on August 3, 2012 at 6:45 PM

I read something like this and I wonder if I am reading something by a Democrat pretending to be a Republican…if anyone bolts over this and does not vote..then they are not in any position to judge Romney or anyone else.

I mean that.

Terrye on August 3, 2012 at 6:41 PM

Yep, there’s more than a few of them here.

slickwillie2001 on August 3, 2012 at 6:45 PM

I visited the CFA in downtown Omaha today for lunch. It is inside the Mutual of Omaha building. I was going to confront some of those lesbians and participate in the kiss-in. However, there were only about ten protesters outside on the Dodge street curb. Kind of a downer.

And the few lesbians were well…….let’s say the pickins were poor.

Epic fail. I settled on THREE spicy chicken sandwiches.

I guess I should have gotten in that big hug of DWS, the DNC broad, at the Iowa Ames Straw Poll when I had the chance. She needed a hug and we conservatives need to work on being compassionate. hehe

Thank you CFA. My Borzoi puppy thanks you too, as she had a bite of chicken too. She likes to exercise her free speech rights when she sees dogs and cats on TV. Her ancestors were part of the Czar’s hunting kennels and they were murdered by the Bolsheviks. Of course she is pretty hardcore Tea Party.

Too ROMNEY: You should not duck it. Embrace CFA and emphasize free speech and you will also win votes.

KirknBurker on August 3, 2012 at 6:46 PM

anotherJoe on August 3, 2012 at 6:37 PM

I read something like this and I wonder if I am reading something by a Democrat pretending to be a Republican…if anyone bolts over this and does not vote..then they are not in any position to judge Romney or anyone else.

I mean that.

Terrye on August 3, 2012 at 6:41 PM

I agree with you, Terrye. Many a Libertarian, Independent Party, etc. who excuse their positions as “conservative” are, indeed, working a serious angle and it’s to destroy or at least cripple the GOP, who they blame for their ills.

It was the primary turnoff to McCain and campaign: they targeted the Right and seemed abnormally sympathetic to and about the Democrats.

Here on this site, in comments, we have a crew of users who do likewise and they never miss a post about Romney to knock him based upon either imaginary horrors or in repetition of the Left’s attack-memes about Romney.

Lourdes on August 3, 2012 at 6:46 PM

How the CFA story played out, with the lines and lines of paying customers on Wednesday, is a good, solid, late-summer jab against the left. It’s not the kind of thing that constitutes a sustained theme, so Romney can sweep it away if he thinks it’s to his advantage to do so, especially two days afterward.

What constitutes a sustained theme are the words of dear ruler: “If you’ve got a business, (in sneering tone) you didn’t build that! Somebody else made that happen!” THAT is what will maintain a shelf life through November. The pictures of crowds at CFA will be a positive reminder that we have big numbers, and if so many of us can turn out to wait an hour for a chicken sandwich, then many more of us will damn sure be at the polls on Tuesday the 6th.

86 on August 3, 2012 at 6:43 PM

+1.

CFA isn’t a good campaign issue as it’s not going to move the needle for uninterested voters. However, it does prove that, as a base, we’re fired up and paying attention; it’s a very positive sign for November.

John_Locke on August 3, 2012 at 6:46 PM

Yes, I intended to vote for him. This isn’t to say I will not. But what a deflating and politically mindless and cowardly comment to make. It reaffirmed everything I despise about this party and this expedient and timorous man.

rrpjr on August 3, 2012 at 6:22 PM

This is the voter version of a driver not seeing past his hood ornament while driving 60 mph.

The public display was an epic fail for teh militant gheys who are a base segment being famouly pandered to by Pres. Evolve. Romney won this one without even having to say a word. Get a grip man. That Obama won’t say anything is pretty funny too but after “you didn’t build that” and “it’s working” he’s back on his teleprompter leash for good.

DanMan on August 3, 2012 at 6:47 PM

The question was nothing more than an attempt to distract from the issues, mainly the pitiful economy we are in. Romney gave the right answer.

His campaign is not about CFA, nor about the Brotherhood, and it shouldn’t be. His campaign should be focused on growing the economy.

ladyingray on August 3, 2012 at 6:40 PM

So job creator chick-fil-a isn’t part of the economy?

Team romney should have pre packaged talking points for this.

the_nile on August 3, 2012 at 6:47 PM

I read something like this and I wonder if I am reading something by a Democrat pretending to be a Republican…if anyone bolts over this and does not vote..then they are not in any position to judge Romney or anyone else.

I mean that.

Terrye on August 3, 2012 at 6:41 PM

Ah, the ‘seminar caller’ from Rush. I agree 100%.

It’s insanity to think passing on a comment about a fried chicken restaurant is the reason to not vote in November. Have these people had strokes?

John_Locke on August 3, 2012 at 6:48 PM

“That’s not part of my campaign.”

Inspiring and never to be forgotten words. Of all the things one could say, could anything be more revealing of the man.

rrpjr on August 3, 2012 at 6:48 PM

meh, while was typing y’all were reading 86…great minds and all

DanMan on August 3, 2012 at 6:49 PM

So job creator chick-fil-a isn’t part of the economy?

Team romney should have pre packaged talking points for this.

the_nile on August 3, 2012 at 6:47 PM

Does it matter to anyone anymore that Chick fil A as a company doesn’t want to be involved?

John_Locke on August 3, 2012 at 6:49 PM

Axelrod approves of your criticism.

Lourdes on August 3, 2012 at 6:41 PM

Romney is running for President…or all Americans, not just the Moderates, not just the Northeasterners. He’s also representing the Reagan Conservatives, which I am proudly a member of. I have had it up to here with political expediencies. I want a president with convictions, not Bill Clinton, Part 2.

Christians make up 78% of this nation. Conservatives make up 40%. The nation saw that for a fact on Wednesday.

If we have to drag Romney’s squishy a@@ over the finish line, so be it. But, remember this, Nimrod. I’m a Christian American Conservative…a proud Reagan Conservative and the Manchurian President will not get my vote.

Because a squish is better than a Communist.

kingsjester on August 3, 2012 at 6:50 PM

“Not a word from the president of the United States in defense of a business owner’s right to hold the political views he prefers without fear of government retribution?”

This is the main point, succinctly stated.

This is what Romney needs to focus on.

marybel on August 3, 2012 at 6:50 PM

I’m having none of it. We’ll never win this way. We just keep shrinking into the safe ports in a storm.

rrpjr on August 3, 2012 at 6:42 PM

.
Moronic was harsh- lost my cool -I apologize

2012 is not about Mitt winning. Its only about getting rid of Ocommie.
Brad Thor posed this the other night on the radio…..

Can you name ONE person who was PRO-AMERICAN that was involved in Obama’s life from young childhood – through college?

ONE ? (Rezko does not count since he is a criminal)

Ocommie is ANTI-AMERICAN. This is not rhetoric. This is truth. He leads this country and he despises the way it is. HE MUST GO.
THE FOCUS MUST REMAIN ON HIM 24/7. Do Not GIVE THE MEDIA reasons to i

FlaMurph on August 3, 2012 at 6:51 PM

Does it matter to anyone anymore that Chick fil A as a company doesn’t want to be involved?

John_Locke on August 3, 2012 at 6:49 PM

So what?

the_nile on August 3, 2012 at 6:51 PM

Too ROMNEY: You should not duck it. Embrace CFA and emphasize free speech and you will also win votes.

KirknBurker on August 3, 2012 at 6:46 PM

He did that during a campaign speech yesterday for another candidate for public office. Romney took the time during his speech in support of another candidate to describe how his favorite fastfood stop is a Chick-Fil-A, how he has by habit and repeatedly sought out their franchise locations during his campaign on the road, how he enjoys their food.

So what Romney is doing is NOT indulging the efforts by the Left to yell out about yet another SQUIRRRRELL and get Romney’s focus off Obama. The Left is hyperventilating about any and every possible social issue for the sake of emotional outrage to avoid discussing Obama’s failures at actually governing.

Lourdes on August 3, 2012 at 6:51 PM

What’s he going to say? Do you want another week of CFA stories?

John_Locke on August 3, 2012 at 6:13 PM

How about government can not violate the first amendment especially when it is detrimental to JOBS…

melle1228 on August 3, 2012 at 6:51 PM

kingsjester on August 3, 2012 at 6:50 PM

+1000

melle1228 on August 3, 2012 at 6:52 PM

Americans have enough trouble remembering:

Obama’s

- Driven the economy into the toilet
- Rampant corruption
- Dropped the ball on National Security at every turn
- Trashed the constitution

Romney needs to hammer these points.

No need to play into sidebar issues like gays and fried chicken.

No you may not like Romney but lets get real here – this is a ludicrous joke issue. A heck of a lot of people went to Chick Fil A recently not as some kind of big moral stand for truth, justice and the American way: they went because they thought all this hoo-ha was funny crap and oh, hey, CFA fries some good chicken.

Of course Cane’s is better but less well known.

CorporatePiggy on August 3, 2012 at 6:52 PM

Newsflash for the Mitt Team:

You can stay “on message” and hammer your opponent into the ground on his economic failure–and give an unequivocal thumbs up to the American voters who supported CFA and the First Amendment against Liberal thugs like the friends of Obama. It can be done. You know how? You answer the question, eloquently and forthrightly, you keep the focus on the actual issue of intimidation by the Dem lib mayors (all Zero’s pals/supporters), and you never let the media control the interview. No follow-ups, you go right back to your message if you see them try to make it a distraction or start a slew of gay rights questions. You play them; you never let them play you.

This Chick-fil-A episode was a HUGE, embarrassing defeat for the Dems. Rub it in. Obama is a prideful, self-centered, arrogant jerk. Shove it in his face that it was his buddy Rahm who started all this and that he needs to take a constitutional law course or two because he doesn’t understand liberty any more than he understands business. Get under his skin. Push on him and put him on the defensive, relentlessly.

You’re welcome.

spiritof61 on August 3, 2012 at 6:53 PM

DanMan on August 3, 2012 at 6:47 PM

“That’s not part of my campaign.”

Yes, I can hear the same words coming from Ronald Reagan.

Who needs the “grip.”

rrpjr on August 3, 2012 at 6:53 PM

You can’t friggin’ buy this kind of exposure – the longer this stays in the news…..the better for Chick-Fil-A.

The MSM knows it, and has done its best to downplay it.

Those genius lefty politicians and activists….not so much.

It’s hilarious.

Tim_CA on August 3, 2012 at 6:53 PM

Do you want him to get elected President in November? If yes, then that is why. Why spend another week discussing this non-event when we could spend it talking about Obama’s failed economic record?
weaselyone on August 3, 2012 at 6:22 PM

“Non-event?” I must be reading this wrong.

The public overwhelmingly supports CFA. It was a huge, unprecedented nation-wide rally. It was important with regard to culture and economics. No “issue” would have been easier to get behind. And it could have even put pressure on Obama to take a position as well. Again, this is important to Americans. All over the country they waited in long lines in harsh heat to defend this business.

If Romney can’t be bothered with this because his footing is so delicate…I mean, we’re going to have a pretty weak president.

Dongemaharu on August 3, 2012 at 6:54 PM

Yeah…I suspect if there hadn’t been a second question on Bachmann you might’ve gotten something on CFA, supporting free speech or whatever.

But, he doesn’t need to say anything on either. They’re not germane to what is a referendum on Obama, period, and that’s his focus.

changer1701 on August 3, 2012 at 6:54 PM

spiritof61 on August 3, 2012 at 6:53 PM

Well said. But to do as you suggest wouldn’t be “part of his campaign.”

rrpjr on August 3, 2012 at 6:54 PM

So what?

the_nile on August 3, 2012 at 6:51 PM

We had CFA day, gave them recordbreaking sales, pretty sure the numbers will hold up that the support far outweighed whatever opposition protests there are today. Past that, people will forget about this and they can get on with their daily operations if we don’t drag this out.

Even all of our ‘support’ probably made employees’ lives a hell for that day.

John_Locke on August 3, 2012 at 6:54 PM

“Not a word from the president of the United States in defense of a business owner’s right to hold the political views he prefers without fear of government retribution?”

Pantload…

Seven Percent Solution on August 3, 2012 at 6:54 PM

“Not a word from the president of the United States in defense of a business owner’s right to hold the political views he prefers without fear of government retribution?”

This is the main point, succinctly stated.

This is what Romney needs to focus on.

marybel on August 3, 2012 at 6:50 PM

I agree with that but it is looking like we-the-people have made that point or are being successful at making that point.

The issue of Freedom of Religion and “one’s thoughts” that should never be penalized (how is that even possible, while the Left is busy trying to do just that) should never be threatened, targeted by government or government used to target for destruction such because whatever group or “community” can’t stand someone.

The Left is, otherwise, acting quite desperately in exploiting just about every torn fingernail at this rate to avoid honing up to Obama’s dismal record and deplorable record.

Lourdes on August 3, 2012 at 6:55 PM

From Deroy Murdock:

‘I have been to this point unwilling to sign on to same-sex marriage primarily because of my understandings of the traditional definitions of marriage.”

If you dislike that comment, you will hate this one: “I believe that marriage is the union between a man and a woman. Now, for me as a Christian . . . it is also a sacred union. God’s in the mix.”

Such divisive, bigoted words surely were spat like venom by Chick-fil-A president Dan Cathy, right?

Wrong.

President Barack Obama uttered the first statement on October 27, 2010. Candidate Obama made the second remark to Pastor Rick Warren at Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, Calif., on August 17, 2008.

The Chick-fil-A flap just grows more bizarre from here. This needless controversy illustrates how thoroughly unhinged the American Left has become and exposes the totalitarian temptation that stirs just beneath the thin skins of too many Democrats.

Cathy’s interview in the July 16 Baptist Press triggered this brouhaha.

“We are very much supportive of the family — the biblical definition of the family unit,” Cathy said. “We are a family-owned business, a family-led business, and we are married to our first wives. We give God thanks for that.” He also told radio host Ken Coleman: “I think we are inviting God’s judgment on our nation when we shake our fist at Him and say, ‘We know better than You as to what constitutes a marriage.’”

Cathy’s words exploded as if he had told gays to stay the hell out of his restaurants. Cathy said no such thing.

The Left’s Totalitarian Temptation

Resist We Much on August 3, 2012 at 6:55 PM

I understand the strategy…but either way…WEAK, NON LEADERSHIP, AFRAID…PERIOD!!!
Wait ’til something that matters comes along…he’ll pull up lame again…

winston on August 3, 2012 at 6:55 PM

“That’s not part of my campaign.”

Yes, I can hear the same words coming from Ronald Reagan.

Who needs the “grip.”

rrpjr on August 3, 2012 at 6:53 PM

What’s with the butthurt? You’ve posted pretty much the same complaint now half a dozen times.

This is what he is. He’s going to be safe and noncontroversial.

Do you have a better option? A different strategy?

If so, then please share it with us. Otherwise, all you are doing is being tedious.

Where have all the mobys come from?

kim roy on August 3, 2012 at 6:56 PM

FlaMurph on August 3, 2012 at 6:51 PM

It’s all right. Thanks for saying.

rrpjr on August 3, 2012 at 6:57 PM

“Not a word from the president of the United States in defense of a business owner’s right to hold the political views he prefers without fear of government retribution?”

Pantload…

Seven Percent Solution on August 3, 2012 at 6:54 PM

Well, I guess Michelle Obama could always show up with her hoolahoop and demand everyone be “given” a carrot salad (which someone else would have to, of course, pay for) and Obama could spill some beer and claim he digs the chicken wings and barbeque that they sell…uh, wait, maybe that’d be the beer talkin’…

Lourdes on August 3, 2012 at 6:58 PM

kingsjester on August 3, 2012 at 6:50 PM
marybel on August 3, 2012 at 6:50 PM
spiritof61 on August 3, 2012 at 6:53 PM

Yes. Neither Romney nor any of his campaign staff seem to have an elastic and creative mind or analytical ability to be able to speak to the heart of the issues at stake.

changer1701 on August 3, 2012 at 6:54 PM

The foundational question on Bachmann was a national security issue.

INC on August 3, 2012 at 6:58 PM

Can’t wait to see what the next distraction the Obama campaign will coordinate with the media on, to avoid discussing the economy and other legitimate issues.

It’s sad and predictable, yet strangely amazing that they can pull it off, election after election every four years. Pulling non-issues out of thin air and turning them into faux outrage to benefit the democrats. Even worse, there are so many people in our country that have no idea the media and democrats are doing it.

BruthaMan on August 3, 2012 at 7:00 PM

Where have all the mobys come from?

kim roy on August 3, 2012 at 6:56 PM

They ARE always poised and at the ready, aren’t they, to swarm any Romney post. Next in their tunes are the ChickFilA posts based upon recent times.

Lourdes on August 3, 2012 at 7:00 PM

Where have all the mobys come from?

kim roy on August 3, 2012 at 6:56 PM

They ARE always poised and at the ready, aren’t they, to swarm any Romney post. Next in their tunes are the ChickFilA posts based upon recent times.

Lourdes on August 3, 2012 at 7:00 PM

Who do you consider a moby on this thread?

INC on August 3, 2012 at 7:01 PM

The foundational question on Bachmann was a national security issue.

INC on August 3, 2012 at 6:58 PM

Romney hasn’t denounced or condemned Bachmann.

And he hasn’t done so about Palin, either, to get that out there.

It’s not a case of being “safe” but of being a gentleman and being professional in his campaign and person.

I don’t consider that to be something apart from the people or somehow disconnected from what people relate to.

He’s not wearing a wife-beater shirt or tats or sniffing glue or begging for a ride or…so that makes him “apart from the people”? Give me a break.

Lourdes on August 3, 2012 at 7:03 PM

Who do you consider a moby on this thread?

INC on August 3, 2012 at 7:01 PM

Why do you ask?

Lourdes on August 3, 2012 at 7:03 PM

Who do you consider a moby on this thread?

INC on August 3, 2012 at 7:01 PM

Anyone who doesn’t eat steak while watching Trek before going on a 17 hour rant…Oh yeah, anyone that doesn’t speak French

Gohawgs on August 3, 2012 at 7:03 PM

Romney serves Duck-fil-A!

Meanwhile, Obama is quacking up!

profitsbeard on August 3, 2012 at 7:04 PM

with another question about Bachmann and the Muslim Brotherhood, he had two dilemmas.

Why would you expect Romney to answer the Bachmann question when Hotair has completely ignored the story?

JPeterman on August 3, 2012 at 7:05 PM

Where have all the mobys come from?

kim roy on August 3, 2012 at 6:56 PM

They ARE always poised and at the ready, aren’t they, to swarm any Romney post. Next in their tunes are the ChickFilA posts based upon recent times.

Lourdes on August 3, 2012 at 7:00 PM
Who do you consider a moby on this thread?

INC on August 3, 2012 at 7:01 PM

Easy the consider a moby to be anyone who criticizes Romney even if it is constructive criticism.

melle1228 on August 3, 2012 at 7:05 PM

We had CFA day, gave them recordbreaking sales, pretty sure the numbers will hold up that the support far outweighed whatever opposition protests there are today. Past that, people will forget about this and they can get on with their daily operations if we don’t drag this out.

Even all of our ‘support’ probably made employees’ lives a hell for that day.

John_Locke on August 3, 2012 at 6:54 PM

CFA was a victim of the evolving fascism. This isn’t over.Just one of many battles.

Team mitt should rub it in Obamas face about free speech and job builders. He dosn’t need to touch the gay part.

I dont think it was hell for their employees, customers were there in force to support for their job opportunities!

the_nile on August 3, 2012 at 7:06 PM

“That’s not part of my campaign.”

Yes, I can hear the same words coming from Ronald Reagan.

Who needs the “grip.”

rrpjr on August 3, 2012 at 6:53 PM

Same sex marriage was not even a topic of discussion when Reagan was president. He never had to talk about something like that in public….ever..

This is the thing…Obama is talking about making same sex marriage part of the Democratic platform…Romney has never supported same sex marriage.

That should matter to people who claim to care about this issue..instead they are just crying because Romney did not let himself be lead into some long convoluted question about not only same sex marriage, but the Muslim Brotherhood.

It makes me wonder whose side some folks are really on.

Terrye on August 3, 2012 at 7:07 PM

anotherJoe on August 3, 2012 at 6:37 PM

Hiya, Lib!!!! So nice to make your acquaintance!!!!

ladyingray on August 3, 2012 at 7:08 PM

Who do you consider a moby on this thread?

INC on August 3, 2012 at 7:01 PM

Anyone who doesn’t eat steak while watching Trek before going on a 17 hour rant…Oh yeah, anyone that doesn’t speak French

Gohawgs on August 3, 2012 at 7:03 PM

Gohawgs, I’m suggesting you string five dozen sausages through twelve steaks and wear them around your neck while you wallow on a “conservative” website and rant about Star Trek, France, “17 hours” that have frightened and obsessed you into a fevah and then write about it time and time again until you’re starving for steak, Star Trek and some wavy French Fries.

Have a great time. You’ve earned it.

Lourdes on August 3, 2012 at 7:08 PM

Gingrich would have knocked this one out of the park. Shoot, even Huckabee would have. Yet somehow we ended up with this gutless wonder. He’s the John Roberts of Presidential candidates. Just wait and see.

AmeriCuda on August 3, 2012 at 7:09 PM

Lourdes and blue gills (in the Palin thread) oh my, can csdeven be far behind?

cozmo on August 3, 2012 at 7:10 PM

CFA isn’t a good campaign issue as it’s not going to move the needle for uninterested voters. However, it does prove that, as a base, we’re fired up and paying attention; it’s a very positive sign for November.

John_Locke on August 3, 2012 at 6:46 PM

+1000

ladyingray on August 3, 2012 at 7:11 PM

It makes me wonder whose side some folks are really on.

Terrye on August 3, 2012 at 7:07 PM

Many of them “hate the GOP” or thereabouts.

Lourdes on August 3, 2012 at 7:11 PM

kim roy on August 3, 2012 at 6:56 PM

Several response he could have made:

E.g.,

“I intend to address this issue in a speech soon. The sanctity of the First Amendment is on the minds of many Americans these days, and their concern in the face of troubling threats needs to be part of our national presidential debate.”

“This is not so much a social issue — about which Americans will continue to debate — but an issue about the integrity of the First Amendment. I intend to address it soon.”

By the way, that’s the “butthurt” — the threatened First Amendment. Doesn’t your butt hurt, just a little?

rrpjr on August 3, 2012 at 7:11 PM

CFA isn’t a good campaign issue as it’s not going to move the needle for uninterested voters. However, it does prove that, as a base, we’re fired up and paying attention; it’s a very positive sign for November.

John_Locke on August 3, 2012 at 6:46 PM

+1000

ladyingray on August 3, 2012 at 7:11 PM

1000++

Lourdes on August 3, 2012 at 7:12 PM

During the press conference, Romney was asked whether the Chick-fil-A controversy – or the controversy about Huma Abedin’s ties to the Muslim Brotherhood – should be part of the national conversation

Wait, so some in the MSM think that it is outrageous that 5 US Representatives wrote letters to various IGs in numerous departments asking that they conduct a formal investigation or evaluation of the extent to which Muslim Brotherhood-tied individuals and entities have helped achieve the adoption of these State Department actions and policies, or are involved in their execution???

They asked because the Muslim Brotherhood was an unindicted co-conspirator in the largest terrorist funding case in American history and because, only last year, the Director of the FBI testified that Muslim Brotherhood was a sponsor of terrorism. It has been PROVEN in a court of law and beyond a reasonable doubt.

http://www.investigativeproject.org/2581/fbi-chief-muslim-brotherhood-supports-terrorism

The very association with or having a family member that is associated with a group that is on the terrorist watch list or some other list (such as the USSR before it fell) is all that it takes to be denied a security clearance, lose your job in the government, or never be allowed to work for the government in the first place, don’t you? It has been such forever and shall likely remain so.

YOU can be as innocent as the driven snow. It didn’t matter then nor does it matter today. It is the law.

Additionally, they asked the IGs to recommend “corrective action” in their reports that is:

“…consistent with the Constitution and laws of the United States, to ensure that no Muslim Brotherhood-associated entity or individual is placed into a position of honor or trust within the programs and operations of the Department of State unless he or she has publicly condemned and disclaimed the previously stated goals of the Muslim Brotherhood.”

It’s Not A Witch Hunt

So, the MSM is pizzed off because our representatives asked various Inspector Generals to do their jobs while never accusing anyone of being a traitor or making a declarative statement that someone IS a guilty; yet, Harry Reid can take to the Senate floor and level unfounded accusations at a presidential candidate and refuse to proffer a single piece of evidence and the Obama Firsters don’t care. In fact, his allegations are false on their face and can be demonstrated false by Mitt Romney’s 2010 tax return and his 2011 estimated return, which has been filed. In both years, he paid millions in taxes.

If he paid taxes in the last 2 years, and HE DID, HE COULD NOT HAVE FAILED TO PAY ANY TAXES IN THE LAST 10 YEARS.

Resist We Much on August 3, 2012 at 7:12 PM

Lourdes and blue gills (in the Palin thread) oh my, can csdeven be far behind?

cozmo on August 3, 2012 at 7:10 PM

Nice try but I think your little model craft projects are calling your name.

Lourdes on August 3, 2012 at 7:13 PM

cozmo on August 3, 2012 at 7:10 PM

…not to mention Train Guy. I think he’s been trying to get in touch with you.

Lourdes on August 3, 2012 at 7:13 PM

Lourdes on August 3, 2012 at 7:08 PM

Now Lourdes, why should I emulate you? Next you’ll want me to type and retype “lying liars lying” over a continuous 17 hour period…

Gohawgs on August 3, 2012 at 7:14 PM

86 on August 3, 2012 at 6:43 PM

I think we make can make wordy convoluted justifications for Romney’s mis-statements and missteps. Romney is proving to be a feckless campaigner, and just as many have suggested that we will “help” him govern so he doesn’t stray from the reservation, we need to “help” him campaign sometimes. This is a critically important issue among most conservatives, even those that do not consider themselves “social conservatives” per se. It is indeed a critical issue among a huge number of independents and Reagan Dems that could go O’s way if Romney seems intent of dancing around every single issue that is of any importance to the voter. This is just too painful. Imagine 4 years of this pain. We need to gently help Romney on this point, instead of arguing among each other in a futile effort to paint Romney in a good light here.

anotherJoe on August 3, 2012 at 7:14 PM

So job creator chick-fil-a isn’t part of the economy?

Team romney should have pre packaged talking points for this.

the_nile on August 3, 2012 at 6:47 PM

Anything Romney says will be twisted by the LSM. They would have spun this as Romney HATES TEH GHEY!!!!

Are you really that naive? Why are you here?

ladyingray on August 3, 2012 at 7:14 PM

Lourdes and blue gills (in the Palin thread) oh my, can csdeven be far behind?

cozmo on August 3, 2012 at 7:10 PM

‘Cause, you know, only people with “Palin” tattoed on their eyeballs can post comments on any “Palin thread”.

Calm down, cozmo.

Lourdes on August 3, 2012 at 7:15 PM

“That’s not part of my campaign.”

Inspiring and never to be forgotten words. Of all the things one could say, could anything be more revealing of the man.

rrpjr on August 3, 2012 at 6:48 PM

He has already stated that he supports traditional marriage.

Get over it.

ladyingray on August 3, 2012 at 7:16 PM

So job creator chick-fil-a isn’t part of the economy?

Team romney should have pre packaged talking points for this.

the_nile on August 3, 2012 at 6:47 PM

Anything Romney says will be twisted by the LSM. They would have spun this as Romney HATES TEH GHEY!!!!

Are you really that naive? Why are you here?

ladyingray on August 3, 2012 at 7:14 PM

They’re here because they want Romney to lose and they assume Palin’s will then run in 2016.

The Left is in the details.

Lourdes on August 3, 2012 at 7:17 PM

That’s some weaksauce Romney….at least answer the Chick-fil-a statement by saying i support their owners right to voice their opinion without being threatened…simple stuff and it would take all of 10 seconds to say

sadsushi on August 3, 2012 at 7:18 PM

Good answer from Romney.

bluegill on August 3, 2012 at 7:19 PM

Resist We Much on August 3, 2012 at 6:55 PM

Really starting to like your posts. And your blog. Ü

SailorMark on August 3, 2012 at 7:20 PM

This is going to be a long four months.
Anyone who needs to unwind, I recommend some Gangnam Style.
12 million and counting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bZkp7q19f0

AmeriCuda on August 3, 2012 at 7:20 PM

Anything Romney says will be twisted by the LSM. They would have spun this as Romney HATES TEH GHEY!!!!

Are you really that naive? Why are you here?

ladyingray on August 3, 2012 at 7:14 PMM

He doesn’t need to make this about gay at all, the marxists overplayed their fascism so hard they gave him a lot of ammo to target their stupidity.

the_nile on August 3, 2012 at 7:20 PM

He has already stated that he supports traditional marriage.

Get over it.

ladyingray on August 3, 2012 at 7:16 PM

It isn’t about SSM marriage. It is about DEMOCRATS using the government to shut down free speech even at the risk of losing jobs. Rahm Emmanuel worked for Obama and is tied to him.

melle1228 on August 3, 2012 at 7:20 PM

Calm down, cozmo.

Lourdes on August 3, 2012 at 7:15 PM

Yes sweetie, I didn’t know I was wound up. As you usually are.

cozmo on August 3, 2012 at 7:21 PM

Resist We Much on August 3, 2012 at 7:12 PM

Apropos of your comment have you ever heard of one of the Dear Leader’s more prominent advisors on Islam issues, Dalia Mogahed? I mention her because of her name. “Mogahed” is the Egyptian Arabic version of Standard Arabic “Mujahid”–which is “Jihadist” in English. That’s right, her name is Dalia Jihadist.

Trying to imagine a parallel case in history, try to conceive of Gary Gestapo or Kenneth Kamikaze as one of FDR’s aides in WWII.

spiritof61 on August 3, 2012 at 7:22 PM

2012 is not about Mitt winning. Its only about getting rid of Ocommie.

FlaMurph on August 3, 2012 at 6:51 PM

THIS!!!!!!

ladyingray on August 3, 2012 at 7:23 PM

instead they are just crying because Romney did not let himself be lead into some long convoluted question about not only same sex marriage, but the Muslim Brotherhood.

It makes me wonder whose side some folks are really on.

Terrye on August 3, 2012 at 7:07 PM

Wonder your worried mind away. The manner in which our fears and insecurities twist basic issues and truths is remarkable. I can see the formulation developing here: for Romney to say anything about these issues would have been tantamount to “letting himself” be led by the media. You’ve already conceded the media and Left would win (either you fearfully anticipate Romney’s essential weakness or have been so conditioned by these petty tyrants you’ve lost all faith in the moral rhetoric of conservatism and the possibiliy of slamming their sorry little asses to the ground.) You’ve completely ceded even the idea of a verbal conflict. You’re a defeatist.

So when do we speak up? To talk only about “jobs” and the “economy.” We can’t talk about free speech or the Muslin Brotherhood — ever again — because it would mean the media was scamming us? Pathetic.

And what was “convoluted” about the question, or what had to be convoluted abut the answer? Who decided Romney had to play their game, or that his answer would have meant, by definition, that the media had “won.”

What losers we’ve become.

rrpjr on August 3, 2012 at 7:23 PM

That’s some weaksauce Romney….at least answer the Chick-fil-a statement by saying i support their owners right to voice their opinion without being threatened…simple stuff and it would take all of 10 seconds to say

sadsushi on August 3, 2012 at 7:18 PM

And that would have helped how? By giving the Obama-supporting news media an opportunity to drag Romney into this whole thing?

Romney is right to stay focused on the economy, his credentials and on Obama’s failed record. Leave the culture war foodfights to the surrogates, please.

bluegill on August 3, 2012 at 7:24 PM

You lose INDEPENDENTS big time with this social BS that has no conclusion for you anyway. What the hell – Hey Mitt – Would you overturn ROE v Wade ??? I’m sure that has some kind of freaking meaning to you as well— inquiring minds, want to know.
There is an ELECTION GOING ON- so stop giving the MEDIA a reasons NOT TO COVER WHAT IS PRIORITY IN THIS ELECTION.(
Hint- it aint Chik-fil-a)

FlaMurph on August 3, 2012 at 6:36 PM

You miss the point entirely (not sure if it was purposely). This is not a social issue. Freedom of speech is not a social issue.

Got it?

Romney missed a big opportunity to rally the base and get them fired up if he used this to defend the First Amendment and the Constitution. That was a misstep.

I’m voting for the man, but am I sending him money? Am I going to volunteer for his campaign? Meh. I’m not fired up enough to do either.

dukecitygirl on August 3, 2012 at 7:24 PM

It is indeed a critical issue among a huge number of independents and Reagan Dems that could go O’s way if Romney seems intent of dancing around every single issue that is of any importance to the voter. This is just too painful. Imagine 4 years of this pain. We need to gently help Romney on this point, instead of arguing among each other in a futile effort to paint Romney in a good light here.

anotherJoe on August 3, 2012 at 7:14 PM

I disagree that Romney’s “running a fekless campaign” (your words, earlier, I didn’t quote that part, however), anyway, I then do agree with the rest of what you’ve written.

People forget that there were a lot of Leftwingers who claimed to be “Reagan Dems” — and the sentiments of “we hate the GOP” has remained among some of them. Which isn’t to say I don’t value Reagan, I do and did (voted for him) but the Leftwingism persists among some.

They’re the same list of user IDs here who write the same things over and over and who can be found on the posts that are relative to either Romney or Palin, repeating Leftwing memes in antagonism of Romney and repeating Libertarian love affairs with Palin, respectively.

Both these individuals as politiicans, Romney and Palin, have their particiular talents and skills and are both enjoyable within those characteristics, but it’s the same loud crowd on the internet who continues to try to gin-up “misfires” when Romney succeeds and in trying to destroy anyone who isn’t subject to the obsessions about Palin. I don’t care for the obsessions — it harms their love object — and I don’t idolize any politician.

There’s more to be had from honey than from vinegar but there are people who claim associations here who are up to no good as to the Right.

Romney’s running a very good campaign, if not excellent one.

Lourdes on August 3, 2012 at 7:24 PM

Leave the culture war foodfights to the surrogates, please.

bluegill on August 3, 2012 at 7:24 PM

Or to others outside the Romney campaign, I should say.

bluegill on August 3, 2012 at 7:25 PM

Wonder your worried mind away. The manner in which our fears and insecurities twist basic issues and truths is remarkable. I can see the formulation developing here: for Romney to say anything about these issues would have been tantamount to “letting himself” be led by the media. You’ve already conceded the media and Left would win (either you fearfully anticipate Romney’s essential weakness or have been so conditioned by these petty tyrants you’ve lost all faith in the moral rhetoric of conservatism and the possibiliy of slamming their sorry little asses to the ground.) You’ve completely ceded even the idea of a verbal conflict. You’re a defeatist.

So when do we speak up? To talk only about “jobs” and the “economy.” We can’t talk about free speech or the Muslin Brotherhood — ever again — because it would mean the media was scamming us? Pathetic.

And what was “convoluted” about the question, or what had to be convoluted abut the answer? Who decided Romney had to play their game, or that his answer would have meant, by definition, that the media had “won.”

What losers we’ve become.

rrpjr on August 3, 2012 at 7:23 PM

This +1000.. The media is going to twist EVERYTHING Romney says so maybe he should just stop campaigning all together.

melle1228 on August 3, 2012 at 7:25 PM

Lourdes and blue gills tag team…on kiss a chick day. Yummy.

cozmo on August 3, 2012 at 7:26 PM

Thanks, SailorMark!

Resist We Much on August 3, 2012 at 7:26 PM

Saw the Daily Show segment earlier. While Stewart is clearly getting fed up with the bulls**t from his side, it’s annoying how every time he criticizes the Left, he needs to include at least SOME humor at the expense of the Right. It’s not necessary, Jon.

MadisonConservative on August 3, 2012 at 7:27 PM

Romney missed a big opportunity to rally the base and get them fired up if he used this to defend the First Amendment and the Constitution. That was a misstep.

And it wasn’t just the base who went to Chik Fil A. There were a lot of people who supported SSM, but could see the issue for what it was- first amendment rights.

melle1228 on August 3, 2012 at 7:27 PM

spiritof61 on August 3, 2012 at 6:53 PM

What he said (and feel free to correct me if you’re a she).

KirknBurker on August 3, 2012 at 7:27 PM

And a bit o/t, but the thing with Cheney is he voiced a very simple, succinct point of view about experience in a potential candidate for the Executive Brach. He didn’t degrade, he didn’t snarl, he simply spoke about his preference for more experience for those jobs than what McCain had in mind.

I disagree with Cheney on some things but that wasn’t one of them. I like Rumsfeld, I still find his ongoing commenting interesting and I don’t care for Jeb Bush’s ideas on some very big issues while I do agree with some of his “values”. So there’s room there to disagree with people and NOT speak so irrationally as to seek destruction of others and of the GOP in general.

Lourdes on August 3, 2012 at 7:28 PM

Dongemaharu on August 3, 2012 at 6:54 PM

I say the public supported CFA in record numbers because we still believe in Free Speech. Even nanny boobberg said the same. If y’all think this was all about opposing same sex marriage, on either side of the issue, I think you’re totally wrong.

ladyingray on August 3, 2012 at 7:28 PM

“The word’s out that he hasn’t paid ANY taxes for 10 years. Let him prove that he has paid taxes, because he hasn’t.”

- Senator Harry Reid

You lie!

He paid $3,009,766 in Federal income taxes in 2010.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/documents/romney-2010-tax-return.html

He paid $3,226,623 in Federal income taxes in 2011.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/documents/romney-2011-estimated-1040.html

It’s time to punish this batard.

Resist We Much on August 3, 2012 at 7:28 PM

Romney missed a big opportunity to rally the base and get them fired up if he used this to defend the First Amendment and the Constitution. That was a misstep.

Profound understatement.

rrpjr on August 3, 2012 at 7:29 PM

And that would have helped how? By giving the Obama-supporting news media an opportunity to drag Romney into this whole thing?

Romney is right to stay focused on the economy, his credentials and on Obama’s failed record. Leave the culture war foodfights to the surrogates, please.

bluegill on August 3, 2012 at 7:24 PM

This is an economic issue when mayors of several big cities threaten a private company to not come to their city….again, one simple statement.

sadsushi on August 3, 2012 at 7:29 PM

it wasn’t just the base who went to Chik Fil A. There were a lot of people who supported SSM, but could see the issue for what it was- first amendment rights.

melle1228 on August 3, 2012 at 7:27 PM

That’s encouraging.

Lourdes on August 3, 2012 at 7:29 PM

Do you want him to get elected President in November? If yes, then that is why. Why spend another week discussing this non-event when we could spend it talking about Obama’s failed economic record?
weaselyone on August 3, 2012 at 6:22 PM

“Non-event?” I must be reading this wrong.

The public overwhelmingly supports CFA. It was a huge, unprecedented nation-wide rally. It was important with regard to culture and economics. No “issue” would have been easier to get behind. And it could have even put pressure on Obama to take a position as well. Again, this is important to Americans. All over the country they waited in long lines in harsh heat to defend this business.

If Romney can’t be bothered with this because his footing is so delicate…I mean, we’re going to have a pretty weak president.

Dongemaharu on August 3, 2012 at 6:54 PM

Exactly.

Or it could be that Romney actually supports Gay Marriage
. After all he is the Governor that forced it on his citizens after the Supreme Court said they could not change State Law and gave the Legislator 60 days to consider changing it. The Legislator said NO.

Mitt said as Governor I can issue Marriage Lisences and from now on will to any Gay that wants one.

Steveangell on August 3, 2012 at 7:30 PM

Lourdes and blue gills (in the Palin thread) oh my, can csdeven be far behind?

cozmo on August 3, 2012 at 7:10 PM

I understand that I can be obnoxious at times, but Lourdes? She is one of the most intelligent commenters on here and always makes excellent points. We’re lucky to have her contributing.

bluegill on August 3, 2012 at 7:30 PM

bluegill on August 3, 2012 at 7:24 PM

This is an economic issue when mayors of several big cities threaten a private company to not come to their city….again, one simple statement.

sadsushi on August 3, 2012 at 7:29 PM

@ sadsushi — and it’s those mayors who have been outed as very big jerks. They’ve been identified with Jerkistan, what else can I say.

Romney is smart to stay on course and above this fray. He’s not denying it, he’s not denigrating it, he’s staying on course and not getting into a mud-roll with jerks, meaning, those “big city mayors” and the Democratic Party.

Lourdes on August 3, 2012 at 7:31 PM

Having read all the comments here, both from the romneybots and everyone else, I still think it was a huge missed opportunity for Romney, and that his choice to stand by and wait till someone asked him about it just reinforces a stinking lefty meme out there that Romney is “out of touch” with the peoples.

It was a huge opportunity missed to connect with the thousands and thousands of constitutional Tea Party Americans who SHOWED UP and waited for hours in the summer heat to make a public statement.

Here’s what a true leader would have done. Is this asking too much of the man who wants our enthusiastic support? Doesn’t he realize why so many of us are willing to crawl naked through broken glass to vote for a real leader? Blown opportunity.

Harbingeing on August 3, 2012 at 7:33 PM

We’re lucky to have her contributing.

bluegill on August 3, 2012 at 7:30 PM

You betcha’! A regular Charlie Sheen of Hot Air. Epic online ranting all the while claiming to be “winning”.

cozmo on August 3, 2012 at 7:33 PM

Lourdes and blue gills (in the Palin thread) oh my, can csdeven be far behind?

cozmo on August 3, 2012 at 7:10 PM

I understand that I can be obnoxious at times, but Lourdes? She is one of the most intelligent commenters on here and always makes excellent points. We’re lucky to have her contributing.

bluegill on August 3, 2012 at 7:30 PM

Thank you very much, bluegill, those are appreciable compliments.

cozmo’s just looking for some attention; unfortunately, he goes about it by crashing his bicycle into others.

Lourdes on August 3, 2012 at 7:33 PM

it wasn’t just the base who went to Chik Fil A. There were a lot of people who supported SSM, but could see the issue for what it was- first amendment rights.

melle1228 on August 3, 2012 at 7:27 PM

That’s encouraging.

Lourdes on August 3, 2012 at 7:29 PM

That’s why this CFA thing is a big deal to hit Obambi with.
It’s not about SSM.

the_nile on August 3, 2012 at 7:34 PM

We’re lucky to have her contributing.

bluegill on August 3, 2012 at 7:30 PM

You betcha’! A regular Charlie Sheen of Hot Air. Epic online ranting all the while claiming to be “winning”.

cozmo on August 3, 2012 at 7:33 PM

And cozmo goes, “craaash, boom” right on cue! Maybe it’s all that glue you’re using on your model trains and planes that’s making your tires go all wonky on the pavement…

Lourdes on August 3, 2012 at 7:35 PM

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