Reid: My source on Romney’s taxes is so incredibly credible that I won’t say who he is

posted at 10:01 am on August 3, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

After Mitt Romney told Harry Reid to “put up or shut up” about allegations of income-tax evasion, Reid chose this morning to … do neither.  Instead, Reid released a statement late yesterday essentially tripling down on his evidence-free accusations, and again insisted that Romney had to prove himself innocent:

As I said before, I was told by an extremely credible source that Romney has not paid taxes for ten years. People who make as much money as Mitt Romney have many tricks at their disposal to avoid paying taxes. We already know that Romney has exploited many of these loopholes, stashing his money in secret, overseas accounts in places like Switzerland and the Cayman Islands.

Last weekend, Governor Romney promised that he would check his tax returns and let the American people know whether he ever paid a rate lower than 13.9 percent. One day later, his campaign raced to say he had no intention of putting out any further information.

When it comes to answering the legitimate questions the American people have about whether he avoided paying his fair share in taxes or why he opened a Swiss bank account, Romney has shut up. But as a presidential candidate, it’s his obligation to put up, and release several years’ worth of tax returns just like nominees of both parties have done for decades.

It’s clear Romney is hiding something, and the American people deserve to know what it is. Whatever Romney’s hiding probably speaks volumes about how he would approach issues that directly impact middle-class families, like tax reform and the economy. When you are running for president, you should be an open book.

I understand Romney is concerned that many people, Democrats and Republicans, have been calling on him to release his tax returns. He has so far refused. There is only one thing he can do to clear this up, and that’s release his tax returns.

Note, please, that we seem to be back to one source for this information — “an extremely credible source,” but Reid did not use a plural.  Earlier in the week, Reid claimed to have “a number of sources,” and that “the word is out.”  So which is it?  One extremely credible source from Bain who somehow got to look at Romney’s personal taxes for a ten-year period even though no one would have access to that except the Romneys, their accountant, and the IRS?  Or a number of sources who say “the word is out”?  Reid’s sounding more and more like Joe McCarthy every day.

Reid, who also refuses to release his own tax returns, isn’t just a hypocrite and a slanderer.  He’s also a political idiot.  Until these attacks, Romney was on the defensive over his tax returns.  Now Romney can paint his decision to keep them private as a principled stand against unscrupulous opponents.  Reid has handed the high ground to Romney in this fight with his scurrilous lies.  Reid has all but ruined Obama’s strategy of making Romney look secretive and weird.

Investors Business Daily editorial cartoonist Michael Ramirez agrees that the word is out on Reid:

Andrew Malcolm wants to probe Reid’s brain, too:

Have you heard about a mysterious phone call from one of Happy Harry Reid’s political cronies from the mortifying days in 1974 when Paul Laxalt waxed him for the Nevada Senate seat that changed the course of Reid’s life forever?

It’s a pretty shocking story, and one that the powerful Democrat has understandably never explained through all these years. It’s haunted him though, through those early devastating political losses for the Senate and the Las Vegas mayor’s office, the defeats that turned him into the bitter, cynical political mumbler he’s become at age 72.

This troubling tale has haunted Harry Reid through the shadowy years he ran the Nevada Gaming Commission, through his public embarrassment over the Los Angeles Times investigation into his son and son-in-law’s Washington lobbying activities,the ethics investigation into the free tickets Reid happily accepted to boxing matches and the successful land development deal that ended up netting Reid $1 million when he sold it, in an amazing coincidence, to a friend and it became a shopping center.

And through all these years, Harry Reid has never bothered to deny that awful early story. Just as he’s never denied any early involvement with left-wing South American political parties and an unsuccessful 1964 bid to become a Goldwater Girl.

I remember that LA Times investigation well.  It explained at least in part how Reid got to be so wealthy while working in public office.  Maybe we can start asking Reid about that, because the LA Times actually did have a number of credible sources, as well as documentation from the public record.


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..I see no sarc tags here, so I am forced to presume..

:-D

The War Planner on August 3, 2012 at 11:23 AM

:)

Night Owl on August 3, 2012 at 11:41 AM

MNHawk on August 3, 2012 at 11:33 AM

Lordy.

verbaluce on August 3, 2012 at 11:43 AM

I suspect that Romney actually didn’t pay federal income taxes for a number of years because of his investment income…

Professor_Chaos on August 3, 2012 at 11:27 AM

But, he is not invested in only tax-free bonds. If he had investment income, then he paid income taxes…unless he had off-setting losses. He also makes huge charitable donations.

In 2010, he donated $2,983,974 to charity (13.8% Charity/AGI).

In 2011, he donated $4,020,572 to charity (19.2% Charity/AGI).

I seriously doubt that he zeroed out his tax obligations. He makes a lot of money and he has been running for POTUS for years. Trust me, it takes a lot of effort to zero out taxes.

Resist We Much on August 3, 2012 at 11:45 AM

I think Romney is indeed counting on an American Idol electorate here.

Yeah, Romney is the one counting on the ignorance of the electorate to win. Remind me again which candidate received 70% of the high school drop out vote in 2008.

Much more likely he schemed wildly to pay low rates.

verbaluce on August 3, 2012 at 11:40 AM

Schemed? Were the Obama’s $48K tax free gifts to their daughters a “scheme”?

I know you would love to make this election about anything other than your boyfriend Barry’s reverse midas touch on just about everything. However, if the Brown, Christie, McDonnell, 2010 mid term, and Walker recall election results are any indication, you’re in for a big disappointment 11/6.

Kataklysmic on August 3, 2012 at 11:47 AM

Is there such thing as ‘the spirit of the law’ – and does that have any place in tax evasion schemes?
Have you read much about the Son of Boss scheme that Marriott used?
That’s some wacky trickery.
But, they all felt it was technically legal.

verbaluce on August 3, 2012 at 11:26 AM

When we come to such a place that there is an unwritten “spirit of the law” we will all be criminals. That is if we aren’t already, since no one can possibly know every law and regulation in existence. We can’t even get the Obama administration to follow the letter of the law, but you have no problem with that, which is telling.

Night Owl on August 3, 2012 at 11:47 AM

Why doesn’t Romney ask Harry to pass a budget instead of taking a big slanderous cr*p on the floor of the Senate?

LetsBfrank on August 3, 2012 at 11:50 AM

Resist We Much on August 3, 2012 at 11:38 AM

..I am reduced to a mound of quivering Jell-O after reading your comments and blog. (Serious expression of admiration here. You are exceptionally gifted.)

Taking all of this into account, Romney’s responses and spare retorts on this subject is instructive : his polling must indicate that this avenue of attack, like the Bain/Vulture Capital/War on Wimmenses/Class rhetoric, isn’t gaining any traction nor moving the needle.

Reid is, of course, a surrogate for that pathetic POTUS. I’m guessing the folks still up for grabs in this election will rapidly associate this with Axelturd’s “Chicago Way” style of politics and pivot themselves — with laser-like focus — on the subject of this obfuscation, to wit, the sagging economy.

If this style of campaigning does cause Obama to prevail, well then, the country was too far gone to have been saved.

The War Planner on August 3, 2012 at 11:51 AM

Before anyone asks: YES, Harry Reid really is THAT dumb.

Pork-Chop on August 3, 2012 at 11:52 AM

Looks like someone got up on the wrong side of the trailer this morning.

docflash on August 3, 2012 at 10:25 AM

Only trailer trash says GD on a “supposed” Christian conservative owned site.

stingray9813 on August 3, 2012 at 11:52 AM

Night Owl on August 3, 2012 at 11:41 AM

..I just want you to keep fighting the good fight, old son (or daughter, as the case may be).

The War Planner on August 3, 2012 at 11:54 AM

Harry Reid isn’t running for President of the United States.

stingray9813 on August 3, 2012 at 10:09 AM

I am struck, like a road-praising president, at how often this gets trotted out like it’s supposed to mean something.

Is the presidency the only office that should be subject to any scrutiny?

Obama is the head of his branch – the executive – and Reid is the majority leader, effectively the head of the Senate portion of the legislative branch. Stating that he should not be held to the same standard undermines the ostensibly co-equal power of his branch of government, and thus his own role in governing the people.

… not that he does much governing these days…

The Schaef on August 3, 2012 at 11:54 AM

Only trailer trash says GD on a “supposed” Christian conservative owned site.

stingray9813 on August 3, 2012 at 11:52 AM

..I’d recalibrate my sextant were I you, old son. You’ll miss your way-point.

The War Planner on August 3, 2012 at 11:56 AM

SO let me get this straight…

Congress writes the tax laws, And Reid calls a person that uses the very Tax laws Congress writes some one that is using “Tricks” …

Oh you mean like Charley Rangel, or Tim Geithner or Tom Dashel , you mean some one like that who is a proven tax cheat or someone who uses the Tax Law as written by the Congress legally. You know a business man running a legal business. Yes those tricky business men, they should all be rounded up..
Last time I checked Romney has never been implicated for any wrong doing with his Taxes .. I think there is a government agency that specializes in this … the IRS..
Last time I checked Harry your not a IRS official.. Are you saying you have some kind of inside information? Sounds like Harry might be committing a criminal act imo..
Tell us Harry is your idol going to use the IRS to take Romney out?, that is his usual M.O. you know, taking out the opposition before the vote.. A favorite Obama tactic from way back..

Hey Harry , let’s have a look at YOUR Tax Returns … I hear you have been involved in several sweetheart land deals there in Nevada.. Yeah I think we better have a look at that stuff..

Reid is one disgusting human being, willing to say anything for the advancement of the One’s agenda..

RockyJ. on August 3, 2012 at 11:56 AM

Dirty Harry sounds like one of the Wizard of Oz performers singing “if I only had a brain.”

Old Country Boy on August 3, 2012 at 11:57 AM

The War Planner on August 3, 2012 at 11:51 AM

Thank you kindly, sir. To my knowledge, there hasn’t been a poll that has shown a majority of Americans want more tax returns or even think that this is an important issue. The economy and jobs beat this “Squirrel!” in every single one.

Resist We Much on August 3, 2012 at 12:00 PM

People who make as much money as Mitt Romney have many tricks at their disposal to avoid paying taxes. We already know that Romney has exploited many of these loopholes, stashing his money in secret, overseas accounts in places like Switzerland and the Cayman Islands.

All of the legal loopholes that Romney probably uses were brought to us by CONGRESS and the people/special interest groups/corporations that lobby them.

How many special tricks and/or loopholes has Harry used to increase his wealth? Any special land deals?

Eliminate loopholes and lobbyists and the government will shrink allowing more people to keep more of the money that they work hard to earn.

SouthernRoots on August 3, 2012 at 12:01 PM

…your boyfriend Barry…
Kataklysmic on August 3, 2012 at 11:47 AM

Oh, snap.
And thus ends what might’ve been a worthy chat.

verbaluce on August 3, 2012 at 12:02 PM

You know if there are loopholes and ways to minimize taxes in the Tax Code they are there because Congress Put Them There

Yeah Harry you moron..

Why don’t you ask Charlie Rangel about all those loop holes and tax dodges. I mean they didn’t just magically appear in the tax code one day ya know.. As the chairman of the House Ways and Means committee he was the go to man for all issues involving the tax Code..

Last thing I heard he is an expert in the Tax Code…lol

Politicians really suck..for the most part..

RockyJ. on August 3, 2012 at 12:04 PM

…your boyfriend Barry…
Kataklysmic on August 3, 2012 at 11:47 AM

Oh, snap.
And thus ends what might’ve been a worthy chat.

verbaluce on August 3, 2012 at 12:02 PM

I understand. Feigning outrage is an easier out than admitting you’ve got nothing.

Kataklysmic on August 3, 2012 at 12:04 PM

Reid’s sounding more and more like Joe McCarthy every day.

Sadly for Reid, his head has much more in common with Charlie McCarthy.

DrAllecon on August 3, 2012 at 12:05 PM

I have heard form many credible sources that Harry Reid is a pederast.

jukin3 on August 3, 2012 at 12:06 PM

Instead, how about “Reid is trying to swift boat Romney’…?

verbaluce on August 3, 2012 at 11:28 AM

The Swiftboat Veterans didn’t lie. And I was on the Hill when Kerry threw his medal away and testified that fellow service members were baby killers. The “Winter Warriors” thing was a complete fabrication, and the complicit press let them get away with their big lie. Kerry was pond scum then and trying to rewrite his own history when there were hundreds of witnesses—like me—who knew the truth was typical left-wing garbage. Just like Jane Fonda, too many people knew the truth.

He got “Swiftboated” because he flat out lied and did everything he could to insure that returning vets were spat upon and treated like sub-humans when they came back from Vietnam. There aren’t many people in my life whom I sincerely despise, but John Kerry is one of them.

Portia46 on August 3, 2012 at 12:07 PM

Hey Harry since you obviously don’t like the idea of “Secret” bank accounts let’s see all yours … lol

Reid .. what a tool..

RockyJ. on August 3, 2012 at 12:08 PM

Hairy Reed has no brain.

SparkPlug on August 3, 2012 at 12:08 PM

Resist We Much on August 3, 2012 at 11:38 AM

Again, then why are Romney and his surrogates treating Reid’s charge as a contemptible accusation?
I just find this in conflict with their (and your) defense of his tax strategies. If he indeed sees no shame in robust tax avoidance and to the contrary something to celebrate and encourage for all – why take offense at what Reid is suggesting?

verbaluce on August 3, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Wow, looks like MNHawk has the flamethrower out and ready for anyone who says something he doesn’t like.

“Typical leftist” – that’s pretty funny. “Lordy” is right. I’ll leave it at that.

Let me clarify around investments and where this could be coming from.

Here’s one idea – what if a distinction is being made between paying taxes on income and paying taxes on capital gains? Depends on what the meaning of “is” is? You don’t think they are beyond telling a half-lie like that? In my own mind, I feel like I pay both “capital gains” taxes and “income taxes”. When I pay 15% on a capital gain, I don’t think of that as federal income tax, because I’m not paying a federal income tax rate. The folks they are doing this for (you might say “typical leftists”) aren’t going to be able to draw a distinction.

Ever run a company? I do. I assume as the founder of Bain he had the choice of whether to pay himself from the revenue coming in to Bain, or to reinvest that money in the same or other investments. I think it’s entirely likely that in the interest of growing the company, he paid himself little or no salary, maybe even for several years running – in order to reinvest profits into the company.

Boy everybody really has their bile up in here. I don’t comment on Hot Air that often just for this reason. Sometimes the libtards aren’t the only ones who should get banned over their behavior.

Professor_Chaos on August 3, 2012 at 12:13 PM

stingray9813 on August 3, 2012 at 11:52 AM

“Math is hard, science is harder and research is hardest of all”

If I recall correctly Hot Air is owned by Salem Communications which is a corporation. I don’t think Salem Communications makes any claims to being Christian but you really knew that didn’t you? So it seems to me you are following in your mentor’s, Harry Reid, footsteps and making baseless accusations.

chemman on August 3, 2012 at 12:17 PM

Never go full Reid-tard.

Left Coast Right Mind on August 3, 2012 at 12:20 PM

Lordy.

verbaluce on August 3, 2012 at 11:43 AM

I didn’t think so. Your type never can. That’s why I say it must suck to be a leftist, always having to hide from what you believe in.

You obviously believe in guilt until proven innocence, a historically anti-American stance. You’ve also now cowered from calling for amending the constitution to make that the law of the land. What am I to think, other than you’re a typical leftist coward?

MNHawk on August 3, 2012 at 12:22 PM

verbaluce on August 3, 2012 at 12:09 PM

You are not trying to be reasonable with your argument. We both know that the intent (spirit of the argument) of Reid’s statement is to lead the average low informational voter to a conclusion that isn’t warranted. Why are you denying that?

chemman on August 3, 2012 at 12:22 PM

Reid’s sounding more and more like Joe McCarthy every day.

Ummm, except that history (and current events) have proven Joseph McCarthy correct – Hollowood and Washington were and still are infested with communists.

No, Reid is sounding more like Al Sharpton every day.

Harbingeing on August 3, 2012 at 12:22 PM

Reid is a liar unless he can prove otherwise. If no proof is presented then anything from him in the future should be considered a lie too. The lies and deceptions from Reid and his cronies will intensify to levels never before seen as we get closer to the election. Unless he supports his lies with facts, he is just another babbling fool on the left.

volsense on August 3, 2012 at 12:26 PM

In 2010, he donated $2,983,974 to charity (13.8% Charity/AGI).

In 2011, he donated $4,020,572 to charity (19.2% Charity/AGI).

Resist We Much on August 3, 2012 at 11:45 AM

When liberals talk about how Romney needs to pay more in taxes, they neglect other forms of “giving back”, especially charity. Romney’s 2010 federal income taxes plus charitable giving totaled 32.3% of AGI. And that is before adding state and local taxes.

In 2011, the grand total was 42% according to Jennifer Rubin in the Washington Post.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/post/romney-paid-42-percent-of-2011-income-in-taxes-and-charity/2012/01/24/gIQAGe4qNQ_blog.html

topdog on August 3, 2012 at 12:27 PM

Professor_Chaos on August 3, 2012 at 12:13 PM

You made an accusation that Romney had income and paid no taxes. Maybe it’s you that needs to figure out that words mean things. If Romney took no salary, then Romney had no income to pay taxes on.

Maybe you don’t comment here because you can’t handle the push back of accusing someone of felony tax avoidance, based on “I suspect that…”

MNHawk on August 3, 2012 at 12:27 PM

When you are running for president, you should be an open book.

Harry’s right. Now, show us the long form birth certificate, explain the 3 different social security numbers and let’s see those college applications and grades! Oh, and is the current president’s real name Barry or Barack?

katablog.com on August 3, 2012 at 12:29 PM

Dingy Harry is a typical Democrat – no soul, no conscience, no honor and no class.

Bring back dueling. Slapping this trash in the face and leaving it to rot on the capitol steps would end all such BS instantly.

As long as these smug SOB’s can exempt themselves from the laws they pass on everyone else, you’ll have elistist trash like this spreading thier lies unimpeded.

Dueling, I tell ya its time is needed once again!

; )

insidiator on August 3, 2012 at 12:30 PM

If the GOP and the RNC don’t take this and beat the bejasus out of that corrupt old codger and absolutely and totally disgrace him, then we ought to fire every one of those spineless pukes as well.

ultracon on August 3, 2012 at 12:31 PM

Only trailer trash says GD on a “supposed” Christian conservative owned site.

stingray9813 on August 3, 2012 at 11:52 AM

Plenty of us say a lot worse than that, and plenty of us are not Christian.

…like Allahpundit. You know, the sole remaining founder of Hot Air, who is an atheist.

The fact that Salem owns this website doesn’t mean they demand that their views be represented in every article. You would know that if you weren’t part of the retarded segment of the Left that imagines Christianity as this lumbering violent theocratic empire trying to stifle poor little you.

MadisonConservative on August 3, 2012 at 12:34 PM

If Harry had pushed star 69, he would have seen the call came from Obama.

pat on August 3, 2012 at 12:35 PM

An acquaintance of mine, who is incredibly credible, worked in the Occidental financial aid office back in 2004. After the rave reviews of Obama’s convention speech he took a peak at Obama’s file. This revealed not only Obama’s request for additional aid as a foreign student but included a copy of his Kenyan birth certificate. Because of the incredible credibility of this information he requested that his name not be revealed.

agmartin on August 3, 2012 at 12:41 PM

Do you realize that neither Dingy Harry (or myself) has ‘accused’ Romney of “having income and not paying taxes”?

Too dense to make the distinction? Confused by his (slimy) wordsmithing?

Professor_Chaos on August 3, 2012 at 12:42 PM

I was told by a very credible source, in fact so incredibly credible I won’t name him/her, that Reid’s source was Axelgreasyrod. So, it must be true if you can’t or won’t prove it wasn’t Axelgreasyrod.

aposematic on August 3, 2012 at 12:44 PM

“Math is hard, science is harder and research is hardest of all”

If I recall correctly Hot Air is owned by Salem Communications which is a corporation. I don’t think Salem Communications makes any claims to being Christian but you really knew that didn’t you? So it seems to me you are following in your mentor’s, Harry Reid, footsteps and making baseless accusations.

chemman on August 3, 2012 at 12:17 PM

Idiot. Looks like you don’t know how to research.

Salem Communications Christian Radio New Talks Family Talk conservative talk.

http://www.salem.cc/

stingray9813 on August 3, 2012 at 12:44 PM

You are not trying to be reasonable with your argument. We both know that the intent (spirit of the argument) of Reid’s statement is to lead the average low informational voter to a conclusion that isn’t warranted. Why are you denying that?

chemman on August 3, 2012 at 12:22 PM

I don’t agree – I am being perfectly reasonable…as always!
Leaving aside Reid’s intent or motivations –
why can’t Romney make it an ineffective charge?
You feel he can’t because of the ‘average low informational voter’?
That’s pretty cynical – but even if true, why is such a voter such a challenge for Romney? Has he no argument to make here for tax avoidance, or is he just unwilling to do so?
Fair or not, Reid’s accusation puts him in a bit of a bind.
He must show outrage at the charge, while at the same time remain a supportive champion of tax avoidance (of course by legal means).
If he’s not worried about the long game here (with respect to this issue playing out with all the ‘average low informational voters’),he should be.

verbaluce on August 3, 2012 at 12:49 PM

We both know that the intent (spirit of the argument) of Reid’s statement is to lead the average low informational voter to a conclusion that isn’t warranted.

This is exactly it.

“He didn’t pay income taxes for several years” (past)
“He makes tons of money” (present)

Low information voter: “Hey, he’s committed felony tax evasion!”
Bonus – low information bombthrower: “Hey, you’re accusing him of felony tax evasion!”

… yep!

Professor_Chaos on August 3, 2012 at 12:55 PM

A month or so ago, Axelrod stated that he had a plan to attack Romney every week with a new allegation in order to keep Romney off balance and on the defensive. I wish I could find the link or google it. But this thing with Dingy Reid must be all choreographed with Axelrod and part of the plan.

OxyCon on August 3, 2012 at 12:59 PM

Why on earth would Romney release his tax returns while lib icons like John Stewart are absolutely skewering Reid for his idiocy?

I say keep digging, Harry.

spinach.chin on August 3, 2012 at 1:01 PM

The fact that Salem owns this website doesn’t mean they demand that their views be represented in every article. You would know that if you weren’t part of the retarded segment of the Left that imagines Christianity as this lumbering violent theocratic empire trying to stifle poor little you.

MadisonConservative on August 3, 2012 at 12:34 PM

Wait a minute, I thought that Christianity was a lumbering violent theocratic empire trying to deny homosexuals chicken sandwiches or something! ;0

Happy Nomad on August 3, 2012 at 1:02 PM

I don’t agree – I am being perfectly reasonable…as always!
Leaving aside Reid’s intent or motivations –
why can’t Romney make it an ineffective charge?
You feel he can’t because of the ‘average low informational voter’?
That’s pretty cynical – but even if true, why is such a voter such a challenge for Romney? Has he no argument to make here for tax avoidance, or is he just unwilling to do so?
Fair or not, Reid’s accusation puts him in a bit of a bind.
He must show outrage at the charge, while at the same time remain a supportive champion of tax avoidance (of course by legal means).
If he’s not worried about the long game here (with respect to this issue playing out with all the ‘average low informational voters’),he should be.

verbaluce on August 3, 2012 at 12:49 PM

Even with the McCarthyism, the Dems can’t seem to move the needle in their favor. If anyone should be worried, it is Obama.

ghostwriter on August 3, 2012 at 1:03 PM

Why on earth would Romney release his tax returns while lib icons like John Stewart are absolutely skewering Reid for his idiocy?

I say keep digging, Harry.

spinach.chin on August 3, 2012 at 1:01 PM

Spot on.

ghostwriter on August 3, 2012 at 1:04 PM

Fair or not, Reid’s accusation puts him in a bit of a bind.
verbaluce on August 3, 2012 at 12:49 PM

False

spinach.chin on August 3, 2012 at 1:05 PM

why can’t Romney make it an ineffective charge?
You feel he can’t because of the ‘average low informational voter’?
That’s pretty cynical – but even if true, why is such a voter such a challenge for Romney?

Why is it such a challenge for students who won’t pay attention in class, won’t study, and won’t do homework to get good grades?

Mockingjay on August 3, 2012 at 1:11 PM

Has anyone thanked the Tea Party Express and the Club for Growth for their endorsement of Sharron Angle in the 2010 Nevada Senate primary, the decision which resulted in Reid staying in the Senate?

Mister Mets on August 3, 2012 at 1:12 PM

Harry Reid has all of these sources, but Harry Reid’s sources told him NOT to tell us that the Prez was going to take a big dump on the taxpayers, cause Harry Reid knew about Solyndra

skeeterbite on August 3, 2012 at 1:19 PM

I also bet that there are plenty of folks in the IRS illegally searching for and looking at his returns – instead of Ed’s continually throwing out the straw man that “no one at Bain could have seen his returns so this has to be a lie” – why not just proceed to the more logical conclusion of those folks who can look at his returns (albeit illegally) being the source?

Professor_Chaos on August 3, 2012 at 11:27 AM

Harry Reid was the one who claimed his source was a Bain investor. Have you seen the private tax returns of the CEO of your investment firm?

Didn’t think so.

Resist We Much on August 3, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Fair or not, Reid’s accusation puts him in a bit of a bind.
verbaluce on August 3, 2012 at 12:49 PM

Nah, the more Reid prattles on, the more justified Romney is in saying, “Nuts!”

Resist We Much on August 3, 2012 at 1:24 PM

Again, then why are Romney and his surrogates treating Reid’s charge as a contemptible accusation?

verbaluce on August 3, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Because it IS contemptible for the Majority Leader of the United States Senate to make an accusation without any proof and then claim that the burden of proof is on the accused. It doesn’t work that way in this country.

“I just find this in conflict with their (and your) defense of his tax strategies. If he indeed sees no shame in robust tax avoidance and to the contrary something to celebrate and encourage for all – why take offense at what Reid is suggesting?”

verbaluce on August 3, 2012 at 12:09 PM

I’m not “defending” Mitt Romney’s tax strategies. I am telling you that it is not a crime to obey tax laws. I am positive that Mitt Romney has paid taxes in the last 10 years. I speak from experience when I say that it takes a concerted effort to zero out your tax liability. I had to QUIT PRACTISING LAW and Go Galt completely in order to avoid funding Mr Obama’s “utopia.” That’s a lot of effort. I don’t believe that Mr Romney has divested himself of all interest-bearing investments.

Lastly, I HAVE ALREADY PROVEN THAT HARRY REID LIED. REID CLAIMED THAT MITT ROMNEY HADN’T PAID FEDERAL INCOME TAXES IN 10 YEARS. ROMNEY PAID FEDERAL INCOME TAXES IN 2010 AND PAID HIS ESTIMATED TAXES FOR 2011.

He is already wrong. Why would you believe that he is correct on anything else when he was so demonstrably wrong from the beginning?

Resist We Much on August 3, 2012 at 1:32 PM

Morrissey is complicit with Reid. He aids Reid by continuing with this meme with the hope it comes true through repetition..

Stop feeding the Senate trolls, Ed.

DevilsPrinciple on August 3, 2012 at 1:36 PM

If this were true some retiring Obama supporting IRS person will leak them.

Cindy Munford on August 3, 2012 at 1:37 PM

If this were true some retiring Obama supporting IRS person will leak them.

Cindy Munford on August 3, 2012 at 1:37 PM

=======================

It’s highly unlikely that any civil servant would jeopardize their employment and/or retirement on behalf of some politician.

ghostwriter on August 3, 2012 at 1:44 PM

ghostwriter on August 3, 2012 at 1:44 PM

I’m sure that’s true but he does have some pretty passionate followers. You have people leaking military secrets after all.

Cindy Munford on August 3, 2012 at 1:50 PM

Fluke this Chicken, not in a good way.

Schadenfreude on August 3, 2012 at 1:53 PM

Dummy in Chief, back on track.

Schadenfreude on August 3, 2012 at 1:55 PM

If this were true some retiring Obama supporting IRS person will leak them.

Cindy Munford on August 3, 2012 at 1:37 PM

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It’s highly unlikely that any civil servant would jeopardize their employment and/or retirement on behalf of some politician.

ghostwriter on August 3, 2012 at 1:44 PM

UNAX laws would make the leaker subject to high fines, criminal charges, AND subject to a civil suit by Romney.

The last part is a real killer for their side, as the discovery portion can dig through that person’s emails and phone calls to see if they were approached by an Obama cut-out.

teke184 on August 3, 2012 at 1:57 PM

Hey dirty Harry, half the people in the USA don’t pay federal income taxes and qualify for a return check. You’re looking in the wrong place.

mixplix on August 3, 2012 at 2:05 PM

verbaluce on August 3, 2012 at 11:28 AM

The Swiftboat Veterans didn’t lie. And I was on the Hill when Kerry threw his medal away and testified that fellow service members were baby killers. The “Winter Warriors” thing was a complete fabrication, and the complicit press let them get away with their big lie. Kerry was pond scum then and trying to rewrite his own history when there were hundreds of witnesses—like me—who knew the truth was typical left-wing garbage. Just like Jane Fonda, too many people knew the truth.

He got “Swiftboated” because he flat out lied and did everything he could to insure that returning vets were spat upon and treated like sub-humans when they came back from Vietnam. There aren’t many people in my life whom I sincerely despise, but John Kerry is one of them.

Portia46 on August 3, 2012 at 12:07 PM

It’s also important to recall that a few of the Swift Boat vets were in fact Thurston’s Massachusetts constituents, and had in the past voted for him for U.S. Senator.

But they were all deeply offended when he ran for the job of Commander in Chief based on his “record” in a war that he and his Party then trashed for several decades.

Del Dolemonte on August 3, 2012 at 2:05 PM

If this were true some retiring Obama supporting IRS person will leak them.

Cindy Munford on August 3, 2012 at 1:37 PM

In unrelated news, Sandy Berger was just seen purchasing a pair of extra-large socks.

Left Coast Right Mind on August 3, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Only trailer trash says GD on a “supposed” Christian conservative owned site.

stingray9813 on August 3, 2012 at 11:52 AM

You’re an idiot.
But then…you’re a leftist……

(I’ll bet that you really believe that ChickFilA has a *corporate policy* of discrimination against homosexuals, don’t you.)

Solaratov on August 3, 2012 at 2:10 PM

I will say this one,s again.To the good people of Nevada.Does this little man truly represent your values and character???

logman1

No, but only votes count.

williampeck1958 on August 3, 2012 at 2:14 PM

I have it from an incredibly credible source that Democrats from Nevada smell bad and cheat at cards.

claudius on August 3, 2012 at 2:25 PM

Nah, the more Reid prattles on, the more justified Romney is in saying, “Nuts!”

Resist We Much on August 3, 2012 at 1:24 PM

Well, that seems to be the extent of all he is saying right now.
And fair enough, a reply Reid deserves.
But again…in the long game…and at the debates…in the fall…
he’ll need to say more than ‘nuts’.
You feel that Romney’s low rates of 2010 and 2011 are defensible…and that even lower rates in previous years are defensible (speaking on philosophical not legal grounds) – but Romney hasn’t defended them. Right now he’s leaving that to guys like you.
But he will need to express himself…likely sooner that he’d like to.

verbaluce on August 3, 2012 at 2:26 PM

To Every Moron Complaining/Speculating that Romney used ‘LOOPHOLES’ to lessen his tax burden:

The MORTGAGE INTEREST DEDUCTION and STUDENT LOAN INTEREST DEDUCTION are ‘LOOPHOLES’ to lessen one’s tax burden. If you have no problem with those deductions and/or use them yourself, you need to STFU about ‘LOOPHOLES.’

Thank you in advance.

Dark Star on August 3, 2012 at 2:35 PM

exploited many of these loopholes,

How do you “exploit” something that is legal to do?

If the loopholes are “bad”, then Senator Reid, I propose you put a bill on the Senate’s docket to remove those loopholes.

ButterflyDragon on August 3, 2012 at 2:36 PM

You feel that Romney’s low rates of 2010 and 2011 are defensible…and that even lower rates in previous years are defensible (speaking on philosophical not legal grounds) – but Romney hasn’t defended them. Right now he’s leaving that to guys like you.
But he will need to express himself…likely sooner that he’d like to.

verbaluce on August 3, 2012 at 2:26 PM

Mr Romney’s low rates do not need defending. His effective rates were higher than those of 97% of his fellow Americans.

Nevertheless, I would CUT Mr Romney’s tax rates, along with the rates of everyone else. Further, I would take a battleaxe to the Federal budget and the system itself.

Rest assured. Mitt Romney and I have very little in common. I’m a radical libertarian. I think that Romney actually would govern more like a Clinton in his second term than a Bush in his first.

Resist We Much on August 3, 2012 at 2:41 PM

Harry Reid is in a CYA mode for his hero Obama. He’ll say anything to detract from Obama’s record on the economy, the jobs situation, spending, taxes etc. As for Gov. Romney’s tax returns; “He said”; “she said”; or “they said” just won’t work Harry! If you are going to spread this kind of blather, show your “bonafides” or else go back to your main job of killing this country by stonewalling, lying, and stealing from the American tax-payers with your “sit-on-your-hands” style of running the Senate. You are a disgrace to the legislative body you lead. You are a slug; a sleazeball and your mumbling are at best dis-empowering to ALL Americans, Liberal or Conservative! Go home, Harry…the world has passed you by!!

Dawgwood on August 3, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Man, those Obama medical records must be really really bad since he’s hiding them.

Drugs? 3rd nipple? Bath salts?

WE DON’T KNOW, HE’S HIDING IT.

Wagthatdog on August 3, 2012 at 2:46 PM

Note, please, that we seem to be back to one source for this information — “an extremely credible source,” but Reid did not use a plural. Earlier in the week, Reid claimed to have “a number of sources,” and that “the word is out.” So which is it? One extremely credible source from Bain who somehow got to look at Romney’s personal taxes for a ten-year period even though no one would have access to that except the Romneys, their accountant, and the IRS? Or a number of sources who say “the word is out”?

My guess is Reid’s “source” is Axelrod, whose “source” is Anita Dunn, whose “source” is Barack Obama, whose “source” is Valerie Jarrett, whose “source” is George Soros.

Thus, Reid can’t keep the “source” numbers straight because at one moment, they’re one big source and at other times, they’re the individual sources per the individual delivering the package.

Lourdes on August 3, 2012 at 2:48 PM

The Romney campaign shouldn’t take this seriously. They should make fun of Reid:

“I didn’t pay any income taxes from my birth until age ten. Is that what Harry Reid is talking about? Who knows? He’s just throwing out vague and unsubstantiated accusations. It’s reeks of desperation and demonstrates that the Democrats would rather make up rumors and gossip rather than offer real solutions to the problems we face.”

Heywood U. Reedmore on August 3, 2012 at 2:49 PM

Portia46 on August 3, 2012 at 12:07 PM
Del Dolemonte on August 3, 2012 at 2:05 PM

By any reasonable definition, John Kerry is a distinguished American who volunteered, during the Vietnam war, requesting deployment into combat – despite privilege that others with the same used to avoid service. His subsequent genuine and outspoken opposition to that same war’s progression based on the view (eventually widely held and accepted) that ‘we’ shouldn’t be there and Americans should not be dying there was yet an additional service to his country.
I have little doubt he was imperfect or that the passions of the time elicited a stridency he likely today has some regrets about.
But the mean spirited fiction laid out by the politically funded ‘Swift Boat Vets’ campaign was contemptible enough it’s legacy is that the term ‘swift boating’ now clearly means an ‘unfair or untrue political attack’.

verbaluce on August 3, 2012 at 2:49 PM

I have it from millions of sources (*) that Harry Reid is a lowdown, nasty liar.

(*) Public opinion all over the place, written and verbal.

Lourdes on August 3, 2012 at 2:50 PM

I have it from millions of sources (*) that millions of human beings haven’t paid any taxes because Harry Reid made it possible and encouraged the taking of their lives while in the womb.

(*) Public opinion all over the place, written and verbal.

Lourdes on August 3, 2012 at 2:52 PM

That’s pretty cynical – but even if true, why is such a voter such a challenge for Romney? Has he no argument to make here for tax avoidance, or is he just unwilling to do so?
Fair or not, Reid’s accusation puts him in a bit of a bind.
He must show outrage at the charge, while at the same time remain a supportive champion of tax avoidance (of course by legal means).
If he’s not worried about the long game here (with respect to this issue playing out with all the ‘average low informational voters’),he should be.

verbaluce on August 3, 2012 at 12:49 PM

Tax avoidance? This is a new issue? I recall the interviews of Obama billinaires/millionaires (REAL millionaire, not $250,000, two person salary millionaires) where they were asked why they didn’t go ahead and send in more money since they believed they needed to pay more taxes. To a person, the answer was “I pay what the law says…it should cover everyone.” Romney has, in fact, advocated for the Simpson-Bowles Report items which does mean tax reform for everyone.

I agree, however, Republicans must become much more specific in pointing out exactly who is going to be screwed when the Bush tax cuts hit, along with the tax increases that are coming in Obama-care. They need to give exact numbers and ask, say, a working couple what they plan to do with the new marriage penalty ($200,000 for one person and a mesely additional $50,000 for two people?)? Ask a Dr if he’s going to continue working 80 hour weeks to have all money he earns over $250,000 or $200,000 given to the government. As me if I’m going to continue to invest when the government is set to confiscate any earnings while denying me a deduction if I lose the investment?

Republicans need to pose the very real question about what they want more? Punish the job-creators for an amount (the first year–since I’m very sure the real billionaires will be leaving the country) of revenue which will run the federal government for 8 days or the loss of 700,000 jobs, which is what will happen when taxageddon hits. Republicans need to remind the takers in this society that the goose is about to breathe its last and there will be no more golden eggs when it’s dead. Perhaps Republicans ought to do a straight commercial on the children’s tale, “The Little Red Hen” or the “Ant and the Grasshopper.” Apparently, along with history and civics, those are no longer taught.

When exactly did $250,000 a year become the legal definition of billionaire? And I understand Harry is refusing to prove he’s a pederast. I think the response from his office was “cute”.

Portia46 on August 3, 2012 at 2:54 PM

verbaluce on August 3, 2012 at 2:49 PM

John Kerry’s story was that he was heroic and ‘served honorably’ and all that.

The witnesses to his service claim otherwise. Many witnesses.

So it’s a case of whether you default to accept a first-person’s self-promotion (which also includes denigrating the witnesses to his service) or whether you accept what the people who observed his actions have to say.

I found the issue of Kerry’s bandaid “wounds” being the source of HIS COMMENDATION OF HIMSELF upon which a Purple Heart was issued to him to be the pit of the reality about who he is. And into that pit Kerry has tossed so much miserable compromises of ethics and reasoning as to lend increased credibility to the original questions about who he is.

Lourdes on August 3, 2012 at 2:56 PM

What Harry Reid and Obama have ‘gifted’ America with, on purpose.

Schadenfreude on August 3, 2012 at 2:57 PM

Lourdes on August 3, 2012 at 2:48 PM

My money is on ‘Dingy’ Harry Reid’s source for this being Bill Burkett. It’s no wonder that he has access to Romney’s tax returns, because he’s typing them up as we speak.

Left Coast Right Mind on August 3, 2012 at 3:00 PM

Reid, who also refuses to release his own tax returns, isn’t just a hypocrite and a slanderer. He’s also a political idiot. Until these attacks, Romney was on the defensive over his tax returns. Now Romney can paint his decision to keep them private as a principled stand against unscrupulous opponents. Reid has handed the high ground to Romney in this fight with his scurrilous lies. Reid has all but ruined Obama’s strategy of making Romney look secretive and weird.

Harry Reid has refused to release HIS tax returns?

Hahahahaha, oh, hahahahaha, how absurd and ridiculous is this pitiful doofus?

Come on, Harry, show us your returns.

Lourdes on August 3, 2012 at 3:01 PM

I was just wondering… Could it be that the underlying reason for Reid’s comments is that either he or his alleged source is just clueless as to the difference between (1) not paying any taxes to the federal government, and (2) not paying any additional taxes to the federal government at the time of filing one’s return because one has already overpaid the amount owed for the year.

(I’ve noticed that some people miss this point, thinking, “I didn’t have to pay any taxes this year” beause they got a refund when they filed the return. Getting a refund doesn’t mean you didn’t pay any taxes; it means you overpaid the amount owed, and so you are entitled to some of it back.)

acasilaco on August 3, 2012 at 3:02 PM

…such as an investment with Madoff before anybody knew it was a scam…)

Sekhmet on August 3, 2012 at 10:09 AM

Have you SEEN the names of those who “invested” with Madoff?

There are many big-money donors to the DNC on that list.

Several major Democrat-party promoters in media on that list.

Before you suggest Romney or anyone else is somehow in-bed-with-Madoff, take a look at the actual names of the actual people who were: many a big-money-Democrat on that list.

Including Madoff and family.

Lourdes on August 3, 2012 at 3:07 PM

A source I won’t name has told me that Harry Reid likes to travel to the Arctic and club baby seals to death. I don’t know for certain that this is true, but my source is very credible because my source has seen the records at Reid’s travel agent’s office. Now that these allegations are out there, the onus is on Reid to provide documenation of his whereabouts every day for the last 10 years to show that he hasn’t been to the Arctic. If he had nothing to hide, he would produce these documents immediately! After all, he is a United States Senator. If he refuses, I think we know what that means.

acasilaco on August 3, 2012 at 3:08 PM

Why on earth would Romney release his tax returns while lib icons like John Stewart are absolutely skewering Reid for his idiocy?

I say keep digging, Harry.

spinach.chin on August 3, 2012 at 1:01 PM

Spot on.

ghostwriter on August 3, 2012 at 1:04 PM

Yep. We’re watching a fascinating game of poker right now.

It looks like Dingy’s going to have to show his cards to get his hands on the pot.

We’re waiting, Dingy.

kim roy on August 3, 2012 at 3:15 PM

Dirty Harry Reid wouldn’t even be any use to a glue factory, the despicable old man.

jqc1970 on August 3, 2012 at 3:15 PM

…the despicable old man.

jqc1970 on August 3, 2012 at 3:15 PM

Hey, let’s not impune “old (men)” just because Harry Reid is both old and despicable.

Lourdes on August 3, 2012 at 3:17 PM

Could it be that the underlying reason for Reid’s comments is that either he or his alleged source is just clueless as to the difference between (1) not paying any taxes to the federal government, and (2) not paying any additional taxes to the federal government at the time of filing one’s return…

acasilaco on August 3, 2012 at 3:02 PM

No, it’s because Harry Reid is a miserable, lying creep who is utterly irresponsible in his speech, thoughts and actions toward those he seeks to destroy. He’s a bad person, he acts out of hatred toward others using the mouthpiece of the high public office he holds because he lacks the conscience adequate enough to prevent him from doing so.

Lourdes on August 3, 2012 at 3:21 PM

Dingy:
“When it comes to answering the legitimate questions the American people have about Romney’s tax returns…

Yes Dingy, the American People have “legitimate questions” they want answers to, but it aint about Romney’s tax returns…they are more along the lines of:

Why hasn’t the Senate passed a budget in over 3 years?

Why is unemployment at 8.3 percent, the same number it was in 2009 when you dopes spent nearly a trillion dollars of tax payer money to keep your union thug buddies employed, but nobody else?

Why did the Obama Administration leak classified information to the NY Times pertaining to ongoing covert operations?

Why did Obama Administration officials meet secretly with Lobbiests at a coffeeshop?

Why did the Obama Administration give billions of dollars of tax payer money to dozens of failed “green energy” companies headed by “Obama Campaign Bundlers”?

Why did the President have to use Executive Privilege to coverup the AG’s illegal “Gun Running” to Mexico that ended up responsible for killing at least two US Federal Agents and hundreds of Mexican citizens

Shall I go on?

Strike Hornet on August 3, 2012 at 3:22 PM

Again, then why are Romney and his surrogates treating Reid’s charge as a contemptible accusation?
I just find this in conflict with their (and your) defense of his tax strategies. If he indeed sees no shame in robust tax avoidance and to the contrary something to celebrate and encourage for all – why take offense at what Reid is suggesting?

verbaluce on August 3, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Ummmm…so not to legitimize ridiculous and unfounded, unsourced “Chicago-style” smear tactics and encourage more of the same?
Are you really that stupid?

Strike Hornet on August 3, 2012 at 3:29 PM

That’s pretty cynical – but even if true, why is such a voter such a challenge for Romney? Has he no argument to make here for tax avoidance, or is he just unwilling to do so?
Fair or not, Reid’s accusation puts him in a bit of a bind.
He must show outrage at the charge, while at the same time remain a supportive champion of tax avoidance (of course by legal means).
If he’s not worried about the long game here (with respect to this issue playing out with all the ‘average low informational voters’),he should be.

verbaluce on August 3, 2012 at 12:49 PM

WOW! How far down the rabbit hole you leftists have gone…some hack politician refuses to release his own tax returns, accuses another without naming a source and you see the falsely accused as “in a bind”? LOL that is sick…not surprising from the fascist American-hating left, but sick…

Strike Hornet on August 3, 2012 at 3:36 PM

When we come to such a place that there is an unwritten “spirit of the law” we will all be criminals.
-Night Owl

couple that with and no convicted violent criminal of a certain hue is ever guilty despite mountains of evidence and you have your answer.

that place is called pay back, social justice’s raison d’être. democrats are the chief political engines of the payback.

mittens on August 3, 2012 at 3:37 PM

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