Quotes of the day

posted at 9:02 pm on August 3, 2012 by Allahpundit

Mitt Romney has lost each of the last 40 days, each day in its own way. Now his campaign, finally reckoning with a summer of effective fundraising and disastrous messaging, is hoping the waters will recede, and looking for a safe mountaintop on which to land his weathered ark.

Romney’s aides — resigned to the current news cycle until after the Olympics end — said in interviews this week that they see a safe landing: The vice presidential announcement, followed up by the Republican convention, offer Romney a chance to retake control over his own narrative

Other Republicans are split between two conflicting bits of conventional wisdom: That the events of the summer, before swing voters start paying attention, do little to effect the outcome of the race; and that the narratives set in the summer will determine the fall.

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The complaint in recent weeks, as Romney has remained in a tight race with Barack Obama and lingers slightly behind the president in some key states, is that Romney hasn’t presented voters with a concise, understandable plan to improve the economy. “I think if he came up with something that people thought was a clear plan, one that would actually be executed, that would change this race,” a senior Republican strategist said in an interview Wednesday.

Romney, these critics say, has spent a lot of time criticizing Obama and touting his own resume. All well and good, the critics say, but what is he proposing to make things better?…

[T]here’s something else about the Romney campaign that will likely keep Republicans nervous all the way until Election Day. Romney aides believe strongly that this race will play out like the 1980 campaign, in which President Jimmy Carter led Ronald Reagan for much of the race until Reagan broke through just before the election.

That would fill many Republicans with anxiety and prompt them to offer Romney frantic advice through much of the fall. On Wednesday night, for example, a senior Republican lawmaker noted the Romney campaign’s determination to stick to its long-term plan by asking: “Is it discipline, or is it stupidity?”

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Romney needs to explain to voters why he’s not Bush 2.0. Republican politics have been off-kilter for several years now because a large segment of the conservative base does not look back fondly on the Bush presidency. The mainstream media’s various narratives about the Tea Party ignore a vastly more significant and powerful motivation than the various bigotries and conspiracy theories typically ascribed to them. The Tea Party feels the GOP under Bush’s “compassionate conservatism” gave up the store to big government…

I don’t believe the Republican party would punish Romney for a policy-heavy “Sister Souljah moment.” I’ve made this argument in front of numerous conservative audiences (and recently in the pages of National Review) with little to no objection. My hunch is that Bush himself would be happy to serve as a punching bag if it would help.

Romney shouldn’t attack Bush personally. Nor should he be strident in his criticisms of Bush policies. (There are substantive defenses of his record to be made.) But Romney is under no obligation to defend runaway spending by either party. Indeed, congressional Republicans admitted that, in the words of Representative Mike Pence, “we lost our way” during the Bush years. They subsequently won back the House in 2010.

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The problem with the Romney campaign is that it is all sword, no shield. Romney has a fierce line of attack against Barack Obama. He lacks any defense against the Obama campaign’s counter-charges: that his wealth has isolated him from the concerns of working Americans.

Yet he once had such a defense, a defense he spent his term as governor of Massachusetts developing: Romneycare. The governor who achieved America’s first state-wide system of universal health coverage could be accused of a lot of things, but not of indifference to the welfare of everyday working people…

It’s not too late! It’s not a flip-flop for a candidate to overcome the misguided internal opposition of one party faction, and remind the country of his own prior actions on behalf of working Americans. Mitt Romney, the candidate who supposedly cares nothing for the middle class, in fact led the way on health insurance for all. It’s a message that can fit into a 30-second ad and onto a car bumper sticker. But what the campaign does not say, the country won’t know.

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By now Romney must have noticed that there is no way he can win the communications battle. The deck is stacked against him. But that does not mean he will lose the election. His victory depends on enthusiastic and oversized turnout from the white working class and GOP base. He may recall that Newt Gingrich’s biggest applause lines during the Republican primary debates came whenever the former speaker trained his rhetorical artillery on the press, and criticized self-important television anchors as much as he criticized Obama.

Imagine the delight and excitement that would flood Republican hearts if their nominee—or his running-mate—gave a stem-winder attacking the “tiny, enclosed fraternity of privileged men elected by no one and enjoying a monopoly sanctioned and licensed by Government,” whose views “do not—and I repeat, do not—represent the views of America.” The press would lose its mind, but Republican enthusiasm would jump 10 points.

Take the cookies away. It’s time for Romney to find his own Spiro Agnew.

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But I am not at all convinced that, in the end, Obama is actually winning over voters. Above all, the truly undecided are not really paying attention at the moment. They might have been swayed toward Team Obama a little bit, but I doubt they have been locked down. That being said, I do believe that the president has successfully laid the groundwork for his general election strategy, which Greg Sargent ably summarizes here. Basically, it boils down to the idea that, though the state of the union stinks right now, Romney is an uncaring plutocrat who will make it worse for the middle class. These ads have clearly forwarded that agenda.

We should assume that every voter by Election Day will know this argument by heart. However, they will also be able to recite the Romney rejoinder. The positive side of that case will lean heavily on his biography as a businessman, Winter Olympics fixer, and bipartisan governor to argue that he is the right man to repair the economy.

Team Romney, for various reasons, has only begun to make that case, meaning that the real action has yet to begin.

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Don’t buy the doom and gloom pronouncements from conservatives telling you, “this is the most important election in history.” A loss for Mitt Romney would not necessarily spell long lasting disaster for Republicans, nor would it be the death-knell to conservatism. In fact, it’s possible a 2012 loss could lay the groundwork for a stronger Republican party and conservative movement.

Elections are almost always seen as urgent and morally imperative. But sometimes major victories can only come in the aftermath of what appear to be devastating defeats. John Kerry‘s loss in 2004 laid the groundwork for a Democratic takeover in 2006 and 2008, and Jimmy Carter‘s defeat of Gerald Ford in 1976 paved the way for the Ronald Reagan in 1980. In other words, it is a mistake to assume losing a presidential election is a permanent defeat…

Ultimately, it comes down to this: If one believes (as many do), that the country is hanging by a thread — that Barack Obama is out to destroy democracy — then it is clear he must be defeated. But if one believes that history is unpredictable, that sometimes winning is losing, and that the stable of “rising star” conservatives might need just four more years to fully mature, then the importance of this election becomes a bit less urgent.

It is impossible to know which theory is true. And while most conservatives would advise working hard to elect Mitt Romney, they should not assume that Obama’s re-election, should it happen, would be any more destructive to the cause of conservatism than Bush’s re-election was to the cause of liberalism.


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AllahsNippleHair on August 4, 2012 at 2:32 AM

How do you turn on an apple, bite it?…

Gohawgs on August 4, 2012 at 2:34 AM

Come down.
Get off your f–kin cross.
We need the f–kin space to nail the next fool martyr.

Wolfmoon on August 4, 2012 at 2:29 AM

..or, alternatively:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gek3maVEoLY&feature=related

The War Planner on August 4, 2012 at 2:34 AM

Well…I must bid you all goodnight. See you soon. Sleep well.:)

thatsafactjack on August 4, 2012 at 2:35 AM

We fondled the iMac looking for a power button.
Glad we were alone.

AllahsNippleHair on August 4, 2012 at 2:32 AM

LOL!!!!!!
Funniest thing I’ve read all week! (And, I mean it.)

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 2:35 AM

AllahsNippleHair on August 4, 2012 at 2:32 AM

How do you turn on an apple, bite it?…

Gohawgs on August 4, 2012 at 2:34 AM

Just don’t eat the worm.

AllahsNippleHair on August 4, 2012 at 2:35 AM

thatsafactjack on August 4, 2012 at 2:35 AM

Night, Jack!

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 2:36 AM

Well…I must bid you all goodnight. See you soon. Sleep well.:)

thatsafactjack on August 4, 2012 at 2:35 AM

Night Jack. Good to see you.

AllahsNippleHair on August 4, 2012 at 2:36 AM

Night Jackie sleep well!!

Scrumpy on August 4, 2012 at 2:37 AM

Gohawgs on August 4, 2012 at 2:34 AM

No, silly, you polish it gently against your shirt-sleeve.
(Don’t you know anything?)

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 2:37 AM

Just don’t eat the worm.

AllahsNippleHair on August 4, 2012 at 2:35 AM

Will doing so teguila ya?…

Gohawgs on August 4, 2012 at 2:37 AM

(Don’t you know anything?)

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 2:37 AM

Nope…

Gohawgs on August 4, 2012 at 2:38 AM

Love Horses… great song!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1NehBrqmAY

Scrumpy on August 4, 2012 at 2:31 AM

I hoped that was your link…One of my very favorites by RS. :)

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 2:38 AM

thatsafactjack on August 4, 2012 at 2:35 AM

..good night, Jackie! Flights of angels (but NOT Steve) sing thee to thy rest!

:-D

The War Planner on August 4, 2012 at 2:40 AM

Me too, I am off the the land of the sandman! Good night all…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY3LAFJbKyY

Off to never never land… :-)

Scrumpy on August 4, 2012 at 2:40 AM

most welcome Red!!

Scrumpy on August 4, 2012 at 2:41 AM

If you want to continue going on about this, send me an email.

Lourdes on August 4, 2012 at 2:14 AM

There’s no need for me to send you an email because #1 I don’t have your email address, nor do I want it. #2 All I have left to say to you can be said right here, in front of witnesses, so you can’t come back later and claim I “piled on you” in an email.

(those two you were welcoming in their putdowns of “bluegill”), and that what I later read from “bluegill” are objectionable as noted, which I had never read before you (much) later posted them.

Lourdes on August 4, 2012 at 2:10 AM

This is the only comment I made about bluegill, before you decided to offer your 2 cents.

cozmo on August 3, 2012 at 11:00 PM

You’ve been on fire all day. I didn’t get a chance to tell you on the other thread. Loved the way you scaled and fileted the blue gilled one. It was a work of art.

Flora Duh on August 3, 2012 at 11:05 PM

bzell-whatever I assume you mean bazil9, and I had no conversations in this thread other than to discuss the upcoming Republican primary in our state, and Alan Grayson, who is running for Congressman in the district where bazil lives. It is permissable to discuss politics on a political forum, is it not?

MY ADVICE to YOU is stop holding what you regard as private interactions on a public commenting format/forum, and if you want someone’s opinion of someone else’s words, provide them with the full range of words you have in mind before you negate them (me, in this case) when I comment on a truncated presentation of those words.

Lourdes on August 4, 2012 at 2:10 AM

I never asked for your opinion. I simply showed you a small part of the history between bluegill and myself. You took it upon yourself to interject your psychoanalysis of people’s reasoning and motives.

MY ADVICE to YOU is to keep your advice to yourself unless it is solicited.

Oh, and take a course on reading comprehension, you obviously need it.

oops, I’m sorry, is that too rude for you?

Flora Duh on August 4, 2012 at 2:42 AM

Goodnight Scrumpy.
I think I’m out too. Goodnight all!

AllahsNippleHair on August 4, 2012 at 2:43 AM

Scrumpy on August 4, 2012 at 2:40 AM

Night, Scrumphhhh!

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 2:44 AM

Scrumpy on August 4, 2012 at 2:40 AM

(Had to add the phhh ’cause it made me laugh. Sorry.)

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 2:45 AM

I think I’m out too. Goodnight all!

AllahsNippleHair on August 4, 2012 at 2:43 AM

..sayonara, A.N.H., BCNU!

The War Planner on August 4, 2012 at 2:46 AM

Carry on y’all, some one is whispering “come hither”.

cozmo on August 4, 2012 at 1:53 AM

Mitts biggest problem. The truth will not set him free. The truth will eliminate him as a contender in this election.

All of America discovered there is something very rotten in American Government. Government now seems to think they can dictate our private beliefs and if they do not like them then they can take away our jobs and business. They can punish us with the full force of Government simply for our private belief.

Mitt could care less. Mitt says this is just a distraction. Mitt says do not pay attention to the man behind the curtain.

Levine sign off.

Steveangell on August 4, 2012 at 2:47 AM

Oh, and take a course on reading comprehension, you obviously need it.

oops, I’m sorry, is that too rude for you?

Flora Duh on August 4, 2012 at 2:42 AM

..probably caused her to faint in a fit of the vapours.

:-D

The War Planner on August 4, 2012 at 2:48 AM

AllahsNippleHair on August 4, 2012 at 2:43 AM

Take it easy.

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 2:48 AM

Kinda appropo

Gohawgs on August 4, 2012 at 2:49 AM

If you want to continue going on about this, send me an email.

Lourdes on August 4, 2012 at 2:14 AM

There’s no need for me to send you an email because #1 I don’t have your email address, nor do I want it. #2 All I have left to say to you can be said right here, in front of witnesses, so you can’t come back later and claim I “piled on you” in an email.

(those two you were welcoming in their putdowns of “bluegill”), and that what I later read from “bluegill” are objectionable as noted, which I had never read before you (much) later posted them.

Lourdes on August 4, 2012 at 2:10 AM

This is the only comment I made about bluegill, before you decided to offer your 2 cents.

cozmo on August 3, 2012 at 11:00 PM

You’ve been on fire all day. I didn’t get a chance to tell you on the other thread. Loved the way you scaled and fileted the blue gilled one. It was a work of art.

Flora Duh on August 3, 2012 at 11:05 PM

bzell-whatever I assume you mean bazil9, and I had no conversations in this thread other than to discuss the upcoming Republican primary in our state, and Alan Grayson, who is running for Congressman in the district where bazil lives. It is permissable to discuss politics on a political forum, is it not?

MY ADVICE to YOU is stop holding what you regard as private interactions on a public commenting format/forum, and if you want someone’s opinion of someone else’s words, provide them with the full range of words you have in mind before you negate them (me, in this case) when I comment on a truncated presentation of those words.

Lourdes on August 4, 2012 at 2:10 AM

I never asked for your opinion. I simply showed you a small part of the history between bluegill and myself. You took it upon yourself to interject your psychoanalysis of people’s reasoning and motives.

MY ADVICE to YOU is to keep your advice to yourself unless it is solicited.

Oh, and take a course on reading comprehension, you obviously need it.

oops, I’m sorry, is that too rude for you?

Flora Duh on August 4, 2012 at 2:42 AM

I’m so glad I saw this before I retired for the night.
Very nice, Flora Duh.

AllahsNippleHair on August 4, 2012 at 2:50 AM

AllahsNippleHair on August 4, 2012 at 2:43 AM

Or, maybe this?

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 2:50 AM

Carry on y’all, some one is whispering “come hither”.

cozmo on August 4, 2012 at 1:53 AM

Mitts biggest problem. The truth will not set him free. The truth will eliminate him as a contender in this election.

Steveangell on August 4, 2012 at 2:47 AM

..so, basically, Mitt should lie? It’s been tried by the current POTUS; it will not work for Obama. Also, you are a man of the rather jarring segue, aren’t you?

The War Planner on August 4, 2012 at 2:51 AM

I’m out.

http://youtu.be/WbX5EwSp_W8

Flora Duh on August 4, 2012 at 2:52 AM

Also, you are a man of the rather jarring segue, aren’t you?

The War Planner on August 4, 2012 at 2:51 AM

Obama supporter.

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 2:53 AM

Scrumpy on August 4, 2012 at 2:28 AM

Later..Enjoyed it!..:)

Dire Straits on August 4, 2012 at 2:53 AM

Flora Duh on August 4, 2012 at 2:52 AM

Hilarious! (It would be funnier, though, if it were legit.)
Night, Flora.

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 2:54 AM

Obama supporter.

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 2:53 AM

..was referring to the abrupt launch into his(?) political screed on the heels of that innocuous Cozmo comment.

*frenetically waves good night to Dire and Flo*

The War Planner on August 4, 2012 at 2:57 AM

So how’s tricks, RedCrow?

The War Planner on August 4, 2012 at 2:57 AM

The War Planner on August 4, 2012 at 2:29 AM

Good to see you!..Hang on the ride may get interesting!..:)

Dire Straits on August 4, 2012 at 2:59 AM

Flora Duh on August 4, 2012 at 2:52 AM

At the end, the Obama voter asks her 2008 self if she was really so stupid just four years ago.
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.
.
Yep.

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 2:59 AM

Good to see you!..Hang on the ride may get interesting!..:)

Dire Straits on August 4, 2012 at 2:59 AM

The War Planner on August 4, 2012 at 3:01 AM

Ronnie Lane

Gohawgs on August 4, 2012 at 3:01 AM

So how’s tricks, RedCrow?

The War Planner on August 4, 2012 at 2:57 AM

Fair to midlin’ WP.
I knew what you were at, with that guy. I just like to point out whenever I can that he’s working hard for an Obama re-election.

How you doin’?

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 3:02 AM

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 2:30 AM

Very nice!..:)

Dire Straits on August 4, 2012 at 3:03 AM

At the end, the Obama voter asks her 2008 self if she was really so stupid just four years ago.
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.
.
Yep.

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 2:59 AM

..that vid is precious! Don’t you just love the special touched that lady put into it?I mean, the frazzled hair and beat down manner of her 2012 self. She’s wearing her *grey* sweater inside out and backwards (label in front) AND she’s chuggin’ Jack. Especially poignant is the 2012 self cold-cocking the 2008 self.

One surmises that sort of thing might not be amiss for some of the trolls who frequent HG.

The War Planner on August 4, 2012 at 3:05 AM

One surmises that sort of thing might not be amiss for some of the trolls who frequent HG.

The War Planner on August 4, 2012 at 3:05 AM

Great stuff. Let’s hope that she’s a professional (Christian) actress, or she’s probably already lost her job. (And I say, “Christian”, because it means she wasn’t getting a lot of calls before this video, anyway.)

Seriously, though, we should probably be looking out for her for the next several weeks (at least) to make sure she isn’t wrongfully fired.

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 3:09 AM

Very nice!..:)

Dire Straits on August 4, 2012 at 3:03 AM

How ya doin’, Dire?
Got a delicious tune for the kiddies?

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 3:10 AM

The War Planner on August 4, 2012 at 3:05 AM

We have to have hope that that there are more learning!..:)

Dire Straits on August 4, 2012 at 3:10 AM

How you doin’?

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 3:02 AM

..doing fine, thanks! Also, never worry about setting me straight. I got hooked big time on by Night Owl on the jobs report thread this morning. I missed FIVE of his sarc tags and ended up doing some research to “refute” something he alleged. (Politely, of course, and the resulting link was well worth the effort. But I appreciate being looked after should I be perceived as wandering.

(Oh Lord! I can hear the ctrl-C, ctrl-V on rogerb‘s keyboard all the way out here in SoCal.)

The War Planner on August 4, 2012 at 3:10 AM

ON-TOPIC (for a change):

It’s funny to me how the media writes to put people to sleep whenever a word is about Odumbo’s failed economic policies or Fast and Furious, then, all-of-a-sudden when the topic is Mitt Romney’s high school grades they try to make like Ernest Hemingway.

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 3:13 AM

We have to have hope that that there are more learning!..:)

Dire Straits on August 4, 2012 at 3:10 AM

..that is one breathtaking video, Mark! Thanks! I had forgotten how “civilized” Pink Floyd were.

The War Planner on August 4, 2012 at 3:14 AM

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 3:10 AM

Good to see you!..:)

PS..Yes there is a tune!..:)

Dire Straits on August 4, 2012 at 3:14 AM

The War Planner on August 4, 2012 at 3:14 AM

Thanks..Again it is good to see you!..:)

Dire Straits on August 4, 2012 at 3:16 AM

(Oh Lord! I can hear the ctrl-C, ctrl-V on rogerb‘s keyboard all the way out here in SoCal.)

The War Planner on August 4, 2012 at 3:10 AM

Lol. Those sarc tags can be a bitch! (I hate ‘em myself, and advise everyone that I talk to on HA to assume a sarc tag before taking offense!)

Tried to find what I corrected you on–Was it the link?!? (Pretty much the only thing of substance I’ve added tonight. :))

My first name is Roger. Shhhhh! Don’t tell anyone.

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 3:18 AM

..then, all-of-a-sudden when the topic is Mitt Romney’s high school grades they try to make like Ernest Hemingway.

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 3:13 AM

One hopes that, if Obama is ejected (and I am coming to view this as a distinct possibility), that a lot of this tension will die away and we’ll return to the “post-Obama normal” which will just be a reversion to Bush Derangement Syndrome with Romney as the centerpiece.

That said, I join schadenfreude at the barricades on 7 November — irrespective of the winner — to crusade for even more conservative gummint and a casting out of the tools and diddlers who would subvert the will of the people.

You’re invited.

The War Planner on August 4, 2012 at 3:19 AM

Good to see you!..:)

PS..Yes there is a tune!..:)

Dire Straits on August 4, 2012 at 3:14 AM

Great tune. Is that Knopler on vocal? I think so. Great voice.

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 3:21 AM

(Oh Lord! I can hear the ctrl-C, ctrl-V on rogerb‘s keyboard all the way out here in SoCal.)

The War Planner on August 4, 2012 at 3:10 AM

Lol. Those sarc tags can be a b!tch! (I hate ‘em myself, and advise everyone that I talk to on HA to assume a sarc tag before taking offense!)

Tried to find what I corrected you on–Was it the link?!? (Pretty much the only thing of substance I’ve added tonight. :))

My first name is Roger. Shhhhh! Don’t tell anyone.

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 3:22 AM

Dire Straits on August 4, 2012 at 3:14 AM

..again, another beautiful vid. As long as we’re o the subject, my preference is a little greyer and more somber; somewhat heart-wrenching:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5JkHBC5lDs

The War Planner on August 4, 2012 at 3:22 AM

LOL!!!

I tried to post this
RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 3:22 AM
about five minutes ago–IT DID NOT LIKE THE WORD “B!TCH”!!!!

LOL!! I wasn’t even talking about a person! BTW: Who puts “b!tch” in their dictionary of bad words?

LOL!!!

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 3:24 AM

Dire,

Is this your guy playing over Townsend’s right shoulder?

Gohawgs on August 4, 2012 at 3:26 AM

That said, I join schadenfreude at the barricades on 7 November — irrespective of the winner — to crusade for even more conservative gummint and a casting out of the tools and diddlers who would subvert the will of the people.

You’re invited.

The War Planner on August 4, 2012 at 3:19 AM

Lol. Thanks! Well…I just might have to join you guys. That is, if I’m not headed out to the mountains before that time.

(WOLVERINES!!!)

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 3:26 AM

OT: I’m watching Red Eye in EST. Andy Levy is hosting; the woman in the leg chair is FNC’s Harris Faulkner–and she looks mahvelous.

Anyway, they were discussing the Jenna Jameson (porn star) endorsement. And at one point Faulkner said that Romney and the GOP might want to look into attracting the porn-star constituency, noting, “It could be an untapped constituency.”

The words had barely left her lips, when Levy interjected, “Oh, it’s been tapped.”

I’m still laughing.

BuckeyeSam on August 4, 2012 at 3:30 AM

My first name is Roger. Shhhhh! Don’t tell anyone.

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 3:22 AM

..dinna ye worry boot correctin’ me..EVER. I felt badly that I missed Night Owl’s tags but it’s no big deal. I follow a lot of your comments — and thoroughly enjoy them — and know you are a good guy. Trolls pretty much out themselves here on HG.

Also, the good-natured kidding that goes on (especially on QOTD) is part of the ritual of this unholy fraternity we belong to. Don;t believe me? Tune in around Christmas, Thanksgiving, or New years and feel te fellowship.

Somehow, despite our disparate lives, we have come together and almost care for each other. Were we to meet face to face, I am sure a lot of us would become fast friends and true.

I am beginning to prattle; forgive me.

The War Planner on August 4, 2012 at 3:32 AM

855 comments?! Then something must’ve crawled up y’all butts tonight, and I’m thinking its Barack Hussein Obama.

John the Libertarian on August 4, 2012 at 3:35 AM

I am beginning to prattle; forgive me.

The War Planner on August 4, 2012 at 3:32 AM

You’re forgiven and then some. (Uh oh, my wireless keyboard has decided it doesn’t like my quick (six-fingered) typing, again. Be wary! PS–”Some” in the first sentence in this paragraph was “soome”.)

You made a good point: There’s a lot less fighting around here near the holidays. Personally, they don’t bother me too much, as long as Odumbo and wife are on a permanent vacation come January.

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 3:38 AM

OT: I’m watching Red Eye in EST. Andy Levy is hosting; the woman in the leg chair is FNC’s Harris Faulkner–and she looks mahvelous.

I’m still laughing.

BuckeyeSam on August 4, 2012 at 3:30 AM

Sam! Thanks for that. I think I can still pick up Red Eye on the West coast. I’ll nip over to the TV and DVR it.

Also thanks for cluing me in about the “leg chair” gambit. I knew that was going on, but did not know it to be an observed and labelled social phenomenon.

I mean, they do that on The Five as well. Kimberly Gilfoyle or Andrea Tantaros do the honors there – and the producers make sure that either wear those incredibly sexy platform heels, etc.

Leads me to the conclusion that Dana Perino probably does not have pretty gams..

..and the truly troubling vision of Bob Beckel in that seat.

(Some things cannot be unseen!)

The War Planner on August 4, 2012 at 3:38 AM

John the Libertarian on August 4, 2012 at 3:35 AM

Lol. Wish you were right, but you’re lucky to have missed the bulk of the thread! (OOOH! THE FIGHTS!!!)

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 3:38 AM

and wife are on a permanent vacation come January.

..amen, bro!

The War Planner on August 4, 2012 at 3:39 AM

John the Libertarian on August 4, 2012 at 3:35 AM

Lourdes you be wrong, too…

Gohawgs on August 4, 2012 at 3:39 AM

Screw the HA regs. Okay?

minnesoter on August 4, 2012 at 12:20 AM

My dork radar is pinging mightily hard.

John the Libertarian on August 4, 2012 at 3:40 AM

Lourdes you be wrong, too…

Gohawgs on August 4, 2012 at 3:39 AM

The meltdown queen?

John the Libertarian on August 4, 2012 at 3:41 AM

BuckeyeSam on August 4, 2012 at 3:30 AM
The War Planner on August 4, 2012 at 3:38 AM

Lol.
What do you guys think? (I’ve been chastised before, so…)

I think Andy Levy is Allahpundit.

(Both betas, both love cats, libertarians,…LOL)
Where am I goin’ wrong?

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 3:41 AM

855 comments?! Then something must’ve crawled up y’all butts tonight, and I’m thinking its Barack Hussein Obama.

John the Libertarian on August 4, 2012 at 3:35 AM

..howdy, John! Pull up a chair! (Not that one! It’s reserved for Kimberly!)

The War Planner on August 4, 2012 at 3:43 AM

I think Andy Levy is Allahpundit.

(Both betas, both love cats, libertarians,…LOL)
Where am I goin’ wrong?

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 3:41 AM

This has been floated before. Uncanny resemblance. But I just can’t fathom AP having the bandwidth to do both HA and Red Eye.

John the Libertarian on August 4, 2012 at 3:44 AM

Yep, JtL…She started up on a couple of other threads and brought her refill needing self to the QOTD…

Gohawgs on August 4, 2012 at 3:44 AM

Leads me to the conclusion that Dana Perino probably does not have pretty gams..

..and the truly troubling vision of Bob Beckel in that seat.

(Some things cannot be unseen!)

The War Planner on August 4, 2012 at 3:38 AM

You take that back about Dana Perino!!! (Lol)
I don’t care if she had Hilary cankles–I’d still wanna take her home to mum. Lol–so to speak.

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 3:44 AM

(Both betas, both love cats, libertarians,…LOL)
Where am I goin’ wrong?

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 3:41 AM

..perhaps. I don’t think we’ll know who AP is anytime soon. I mean, you know, it’ll be like Deep Throat or something.

Evening, ‘Hawgs!

The War Planner on August 4, 2012 at 3:45 AM

But I just can’t fathom AP having the bandwidth to do both HA and Red Eye.

John the Libertarian on August 4, 2012 at 3:44 AM

Really?!?

I like Levy, but I find it hard to believe that that show takes him more than four hours a day. (Five, maybe?)

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 3:45 AM

(Not that one! It’s reserved for Kimberly!)

The War Planner on August 4, 2012 at 3:43 AM

Oh good Lord.

Good grief.

Man, that woman sends tingles up my leg.

John the Libertarian on August 4, 2012 at 3:45 AM

I don’t care if she had Hilary cankles–I’d still wanna take her home to mum. Lol–so to speak.

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 3:44 AM

..I retract! NONE of these wimmin’, by the way, would suffer from my inattention for eating crackers, if you get my drift.

(This just in: WP == D.O.M.)

(Oh God! There goes Del’s and rogerb’s keyboards again!)

The War Planner on August 4, 2012 at 3:47 AM

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 3:45 AM

You may be right. Levy’s humor and AP’s are very similar.

John the Libertarian on August 4, 2012 at 3:47 AM

I think AP is Bill from RedEye…

Gohawgs on August 4, 2012 at 3:48 AM

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 3:45 AM

Although… Levy is pretty hardcore Jewish. AP is a devout atheist.

John the Libertarian on August 4, 2012 at 3:48 AM

Man, that woman sends tingles up my leg.

John the Libertarian on August 4, 2012 at 3:45 AM

..remember the thingies going around about Republican/conservative women versus the Dem femmes? The former all pulchritudinous and the latter zit-encrusted, flabby-skinned, mousy-haired stevedores?

The War Planner on August 4, 2012 at 3:49 AM

..howdy, John! Pull up a chair! (Not that one! It’s reserved for Kimberly!)

The War Planner on August 4, 2012 at 3:43 AM

She is lovely.

I don’t usually watch Hannity. (Don’t care for him.) But, did you see his shhow on Thursday? A black liberal attorney (I’ve seen him before, but can’t remember his name) was about to have an anuerism on the show. He was VERY rude, and kinda scary–to be honest. Guilfoyle handled him with grace.

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 3:49 AM

I think AP is Bill from RedEye…

Gohawgs on August 4, 2012 at 3:48 AM

..Bill is too funny; AP is droll.

The War Planner on August 4, 2012 at 3:50 AM

Hey TWP,

Can you devise a flanking manuever for the next incoherent outburst? And, there will always be a next time…

Gohawgs on August 4, 2012 at 3:50 AM

Although… Levy is pretty hardcore Jewish. AP is a devout atheist.

John the Libertarian on August 4, 2012 at 3:48 AM

Hmmm. Really? I think Levy’s a self-described agnostic. (Which is really not much different that atheism, only one is on TV, and one is on an anonymous blog. (I.e. I’m saying that agnosticism is slightly more palatable to the masses than atheism.))

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 3:51 AM

I think AP is Bill from RedEye…

Gohawgs on August 4, 2012 at 3:48 AM

THAT, my friend, would be the best thing ever!

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 3:53 AM

Republican/conservative women versus the Dem femmes?

The War Planner on August 4, 2012 at 3:49 AM

I help to thin out the herd when I tell liberal women that the Fox “bimbos” are so smoking hot, because it gives them aneurysms.

John the Libertarian on August 4, 2012 at 3:54 AM

I don’t usually watch Hannity. (Don’t care for him.) But, did you see his shhow on Thursday? A black liberal attorney (I’ve seen him before, but can’t remember his name) was about to have an anuerism on the show. He was VERY rude, and kinda scary–to be honest. Guilfoyle handled him with grace.

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 3:49 AM

..she kicked that jerkwad’s ass.

He is Leo Terrell, an annoying, whiny, lib lawyer out here in Los Angeles. He sometimes does stand-in for some of the hosts on KABC 790 in L.A.

He was sitting in for Peter Tilden after that Hannity gig and — like an absolute rookie — was playing and re-playing a recording of that bit trying to get lib sympathy. Out of ten or so, he got blown out on all but two super-lib callers.

Pretty much a noisy, irritating waste of skin, he is.

The War Planner on August 4, 2012 at 3:56 AM

pulchritudinous

The War Planner on August 4, 2012 at 3:49 AM

Love it. Personal note: Use “Pulchritudinous” more often in daily conversation.

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 3:56 AM

I help to thin out the herd when I tell liberal women that the Fox “bimbos” are so smoking hot, because it gives them aneurysms.

John the Libertarian on August 4, 2012 at 3:54 AM

..serves the bastages right for picking the wrong(-headed) side.

The War Planner on August 4, 2012 at 3:57 AM

I think Levy’s a self-described agnostic. (Which is really not much different that atheism, only one is on TV, and one is on an anonymous blog. (I.e. I’m saying that agnosticism is slightly more palatable to the masses than atheism.))

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 3:51 AM

Margaret Atwood made a very good case for the humility of agnosticism. In other words, we just… don’t… know. But she chooses to believe, because the world is a lot warmer.

In any event, Levy is extremely defensive of Judaism and Jews. Too much to be agnostic.

John the Libertarian on August 4, 2012 at 3:57 AM

Love it. Personal note: Use “Pulchritudinous” more often in daily conversation.

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 3:56 AM

..never worked for me. All the bars I hit have dumb wimmin in them. They think I am accusing them of carrying some disease or skin condition.

The War Planner on August 4, 2012 at 3:58 AM

Pretty much a noisy, irritating waste of skin, he is.

The War Planner on August 4, 2012 at 3:56 AM

Yeah. He all but foamed at the mouth. I woulda been scared if he were in the studio with me–and not because he’s black, but because he seemed more than a bit unstable, to me.

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 3:58 AM

..never worked for me. All the bars I hit have dumb wimmin in them. They think I am accusing them of carrying some disease or skin condition.

The War Planner on August 4, 2012 at 3:58 AM

LOL! “Is that a pulchritudinous sore on your lip?” (At least, that’s what they’re hearing. :) )

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 4:00 AM

I don’t usually watch Hannity. (Don’t care for him.)
..
RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 3:49 AM

..by the way, same here. I DVR the show, watch the first segment and play a game with myself: the first time he goes into what I call his bullet-point fusillade and ticks off “..dirty air and water..”, I dump him and go out to clean out my septic tank.

The War Planner on August 4, 2012 at 4:02 AM

Ah, yes. Hannity and his laundry lists. Fox needs new blood.

John the Libertarian on August 4, 2012 at 4:03 AM

I’m out…Back Sunday nite

Oh, JtL — 5 in the top 10 in the USA pre-season poll…

Gohawgs on August 4, 2012 at 4:05 AM

LOL! “Is that a pulchritudinous sore on your lip?” (At least, that’s what they’re hearing. :) )

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 4:00 AM

…heh..heh..heh.

Used to have a good friend (since passed away) who woukd make time with some of the broads in a disco. If/when he determined they were gold diggers or a waste of time, he would whisper the rottenest things in their ears — always sotto voce and just below the din level so they would not understand. You know, things like, “what’s a disgusting looking skank like you doing in a nice place like this?”

..they’d just eat that sh*t up.

The War Planner on August 4, 2012 at 4:06 AM

In any event, Levy is extremely defensive of Judaism and Jews. Too much to be agnostic.

John the Libertarian on August 4, 2012 at 3:57 AM

I’ll certainly take your word for it. As a “religious” viewer of the online clips, I thought I heard him say the other day that he was agnostic.

But, he could have been joking. Also, I’m usually quite hammered when I watch those clips, as I leave them to time when I can have several (or more) drinks.

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 4:07 AM

..they’d just eat that sh*t up.

The War Planner on August 4, 2012 at 4:06 AM

Now…that’s my best laugh of the day!

RedCrow on August 4, 2012 at 4:08 AM

I’m out…Back Sunday nite

Oh, JtL — 5 in the top 10 in the USA pre-season poll…

Gohawgs on August 4, 2012 at 4:05 AM

..night, Hawgs! Good luck with Georgia this season!

Drop by my home town if you get a chance.

The War Planner on August 4, 2012 at 4:09 AM

5 in the top 10 in the USA pre-season poll…

Gohawgs on August 4, 2012 at 4:05 AM

What the fairy coaches say doesn’t matter anymore. Playoffs are coming, my friend. The end of the SEC princesses.

John the Libertarian on August 4, 2012 at 4:11 AM

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