Why Pawlenty would be the best pick for Veep

posted at 7:41 pm on August 2, 2012 by Karl

Naming Tim Pawlenty as the best choice for Mitt Romney’s running-mate will sound crazy to some, but bear with me for a bit. Most of the media pieces about Mitt Romney’s veepstakes are geared to figuring out who Romney will pick. That is mostly a fool’s errand, especially for GOP VP picks. It may be more revealing to project ourselves to the moment after the pick is made to examine what the pick might say about how Team Romney sees the race.

Romney’s selection process is likely driven by two fundamentals — the fundamental of VP picks and the fundamental of his campaign. First, political scientists tend to think that the VP pick may be be about 2 or 3 percentage points in the VP’s home state, with even more marginal effects nationally (and those national effects of 1 or 2 points could be positive or negative). Enough people see 2012 as a close election that Romney is likely to take these nominally small effects seriously, beyond the question of basic qualifications for a veep.

Second, the fundamental point of the Romney campaign is to keep everyone focused to the maximum extent on Obama’s record, particularly on the economy. Romney should be most likely to pick a running-mate who gives Team Obama and the media the smallest opportunity for changing the subject.

Accordingly, I tend to agree with Ross Douthat that Romney will go for a boring choice, but disagree with his discounting of Pawlenty. As Sean Trende has pointed out, Pawlenty has most of the positives Romney is looking for and almost none of the negatives. Douthat and Trende sort of agree that Pawlenty’s biggest negative is that he is not exciting… but if boring is what Romney wants, this is a feature, not a bug.

By my analysis, Pawlenty’s potential negative is that he probably does not put Minnesota in the Romney column. However, if Romney picks Pawlenty, it would suggest that Team Romney feels confident Mitt can win without the sort of home state boost others might provide. In contrast, if Romney picks Marco Rubio, Rob Portman or even Kelly Ayotte, it would suggest Team Romney harbors various levels of concern about the Electoral College (and perhaps concern about Romney’s standing with Hispanics or college-educated women). If Romney picked someone like Paul Ryan, it might suggest Romney wants to change the subject from Obama / the economy and a certain level of panic in Romneyland.

I might prefer others on Romney’s likely short list as a veep pick. The electoral map may well push Romney to one of those choices. But picking Pawlenty — bland and unlikely to help politically in a swing state — may speak volumes about how Romney views his odds of victory in November.

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Yeah, no point in picking someone that might make this bitter pill easier to swallow.

LegendHasIt on August 2, 2012 at 7:44 PM

Who?

the new aesthetic on August 2, 2012 at 7:44 PM

I want Ryan just to watch the VP debate.

AndrewsDad on August 2, 2012 at 7:44 PM

I have to say that we shou…

sharrukin on August 2, 2012 at 7:44 PM

I like Mr. Obamneycare. He shouldn’t have a problem releasing his tax returns.

Uppereastside on August 2, 2012 at 7:45 PM

PLEASE make it STOP!

I’m sorry, but I think that Romney is much too smart to pick a non-starter like Pawlenty.

Pork-Chop on August 2, 2012 at 7:46 PM

No.

joekenha on August 2, 2012 at 7:47 PM

If Sketch picks Tyrone West, that’s half of the black vote right there. Lololol. I apologize, I couldn’t even type that with a straight face.

Uppereastside on August 2, 2012 at 7:49 PM

It’d be fun to see Pawlenty calmly pick apart Biden in the VP debate.

I have to admit that’s a rather low bar, though.

Marcola on August 2, 2012 at 7:49 PM

Pawlenty will be plenty.

gerrym51 on August 2, 2012 at 7:49 PM

“Please help me welcome to the stage the next Vice President of the United States, Tim Pawlenzzzzzzzzzzz … *snort* … zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz …”

OhioCoastie on August 2, 2012 at 7:51 PM

He’s called “boring.” But it’s a lot worse than that. He’s not a particular compelling talker or a highly effective debater. He’s bad. That’s why he lost the nomination. The VP nominee’s primary job is to be an effective salesperson for the party. Pawlenty will be horrible on that front.

anotherJoe on August 2, 2012 at 7:52 PM

Pawlenty is an AWESOME pick for VP. I wouldn’t be at all surprised by it, and I would cheer it.

People don’t realize what an asset Pawlenty would be to the ticket.

mountainaires on August 2, 2012 at 7:56 PM

You cannot be serious.
Is there even one conservative who contributes to this site?

AmeriCuda on August 2, 2012 at 8:00 PM

West or Rubio. No one else will do. Picking one milquetoast moderate to augment another won’t work. Besides, we need to negate the racial dynamic.

abobo on August 2, 2012 at 8:00 PM

Nope.com

Tarnsman on August 2, 2012 at 8:00 PM

AmeriCuda on August 2, 2012 at 8:00 PM

I think we both know the answer to that.

abobo on August 2, 2012 at 8:00 PM

Pawlenty’s political experience is probably the closest to Romney’s. They both had to work deep behind enemy lines most of the time.

RBMN on August 2, 2012 at 8:01 PM

The guy who was the governor of the Islamic Republic of Minnesota? Romney loses with pawlenty as vp. Write it down, bet on it.

peacenprosperity on August 2, 2012 at 8:01 PM

Uppereastside on August 2, 2012 at 7:45 PM

…VIRGINIA…!!!

If Sketch picks Tyrone West, that’s half of the black vote right there. Lololol. I apologize, I couldn’t even type that with a straight face.

Uppereastside on August 2, 2012 at 7:49 PM

…I wouldn’t have a straight face either if I shaved it AND THEN patted it down with Ben Gay! You have to be whinnying!

KOOLAID2 on August 2, 2012 at 8:02 PM

if you think picking pawlenty would be anything other than a massive letdown, a giant yawn, then you’re kidding yourself. big big mistake if he does.

exceller on August 2, 2012 at 8:03 PM

The guy who was the governor of the Islamic Republic of Minnesota? Romney loses with pawlenty as vp. Write it down, bet on it.

peacenprosperity on August 2, 2012 at 8:01 PM

Yeah, but Pawlenty is the reason that we’re not living under sharia yet.

RBMN on August 2, 2012 at 8:03 PM

think outside the box: why not ridge or petraeus or kasich?

reliapundit on August 2, 2012 at 8:04 PM

bear with me for a bit

Sorry Karl. You usually post sane things but this, umm. This smells like picking the running mate safest from attacks by the press. You addressed that in your OP as “a running-mate who gives Team Obama and the media the smallest opportunity for changing the subject”. Those are weasel words. If Romney does this, it makes him look like a weasel candidate:

“if boring is what Romney wants, this is a feature, not a bug.”

Because why would he want this? To contrast himself with McCain? Because if he weasels out on his VP pick, that WILL be the topic of conversation, not Obsama’s stupid record, 96 days away from the election. That, and how “out of touch” he is, not only with the country, but his own base.

RushBaby on August 2, 2012 at 8:04 PM

So that means we’d be stuck with Romney – Pawlenty for 16 years at most or Romney + some Democrat president for 8 years at least. Well, there goes any chance of me being enthusiastic for anyone in the White House for a hella long time.

Dongemaharu on August 2, 2012 at 8:06 PM

Paul Ryan, please, please, please! Among his many attributes, the left ALREADY hates him, so we’d be through that phase of it before it even started. On to the debates, and the total de-pantsing of Biden.

waterytart on August 2, 2012 at 8:07 PM

I guess you must have missed the debates this year. Pawlenty is like a grocery store manager who is on Zanex. It would be more interesting to interview a fire hydrant than this stone. He may be a good behind the scenes guy but he is death to a campaign. Just imagine him on the stump prepping for the big man Romney. He couldn’t get the vendors to watch him let alone undecideds. Then imagine Sarah Palin or Allen West and to a lessor extent Marco Rubio! Do we want to have to use a stimulus, the chemical kind not fiscal, to keep the crowds(?)awake! Is there no imagination left in the Romney camp? Scott Walker might do the trick but not Pawlenty.

inspectorudy on August 2, 2012 at 8:07 PM

Again, everyone from Center over is already voting against Obama out of fear. The “excitement” Pawlenty allegedy doesn’t have isn’t going to appear to the Center-Left/Democrats. Pawlenty has regional, religious, and Midwest comfort appeal. A better choice than Portman (who and run OMB). and Pawlenty isn’t robbing the farm team, Senate or House of stars.

ParisParamus on August 2, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Rubio, Rand Paul, or Paul Ryan. NO MODERATES….ehhh I mean NO SPINELESS BORES AT ALL.

ModerateMan on August 2, 2012 at 8:08 PM

…grasping….not too successfully either.

Amjean on August 2, 2012 at 8:09 PM

its one of these three: Jindal, Ryan or Rubio. I hope its Rubio.

joepub on August 2, 2012 at 8:10 PM

Uppereastside on August 2, 2012 at 7:49 PM

Who the hell is Tyrone West?!

ThePrez on August 2, 2012 at 8:10 PM

Nope! He was a horrible, primary candidate.

Vince on August 2, 2012 at 8:10 PM

Maybe Pawlenty can push CAP and TRADE through? He used to love that. Pawlenty actually makes Romney look conservative.

ModerateMan on August 2, 2012 at 8:10 PM

Now I get it. He’s paying you off with some of those global-warming gas taxes, right?
Please Mitt, do us a favor. Pick Rubio and win. Sending the country off the cliff isn’t worth the self esteem boost of a Pawlenty pick.

AmeriCuda on August 2, 2012 at 8:11 PM

The three R’s: Rubio, Ryan or Rand.

the new aesthetic on August 2, 2012 at 8:12 PM

Who?

the new aesthetic on August 2, 2012 at 7:44 PM

Exactly, Pawlenty has proven to have no coattails, no down ticket influence, little name recognition, no significant accomplishments as governor or anywhere else — and little chance of bringing his state along. Palin is still your ideal candidate, covering all these areas, except for all the urban rumors (LIES) about her in the MSM.

But a better choice would be Sen. John Hoeven of ND. 10 years as governor: he has a state that is doing even better than TX. He also has banking experience — in the only state bank in the country (does it have something to do with ND’s success – you bet!) So if your willing to go with a governor who has done great things, proven coattails, and is little recognized around the country, Sen. John Hoeven is the guy.

KenInIL on August 2, 2012 at 8:12 PM

yeah let’s pick the guy who inspired nobody, who couldn’t convince anyone to vote for him, a complete milquetoast. oh I just can’t wait.

exceller on August 2, 2012 at 8:13 PM

I guess you must have missed the debates this year. Pawlenty is like a grocery store manager who is on Zanex…..
inspectorudy on August 2, 2012 at 8:07 PM

He made the same mistake that Palin made (at first) in 2008–listening to “professional advisers.” That wasn’t at all typical of how Pawlenty performs. And why did he quit? He ran out of money. He didn’t want to go deep in debt. That’s maybe a good sign.

RBMN on August 2, 2012 at 8:14 PM

No.

Bmore on August 2, 2012 at 8:14 PM

Karl,

Let me be among the first to congratulate you on your excellent anaylysis and suggestion that Tim Pawlenty be given the honor of being nominated as VP on the GOP ticket. We could not have asked for a better choice.

Sincerely,

The Obama 2012 Campaign.

—–

Seriously, Karl, you are thinking political strategy and this choice is more than that.

Your factors for picking a VP are home state bounce and no particular record for the opposition to attack. Those are electabilty factors for a candidate, not the traits you want in the VP. Is not Joe Biden a cautionary tale for you? He became to give Obama “gravitas” on foreign affairs. How’d that work out?

It works much better to have a VP candidate who can actually be a part of the team once elected. IMO (and history is going to prove me right) the working relationship between GWB and Dick Cheney should be the model. Not the more predictable selection of a boring individual who will not destract from the awesomeness of the Presidential candidate.

My choices are Paul Ryan who can partner with Romney on the economic issues, Bobby Jindal whose background would be helpful in working health policy issues after dismantling Obamacare, or some dark horse from the private sector who would leave the opposition scrambling for research since they already have any dirt available on the names being thrown around.

Happy Nomad on August 2, 2012 at 8:15 PM

Rubio, Rand Paul, or Paul Ryan. NO MODERATES….ehhh I mean NO SPINELESS BORES AT ALL.

ModerateMan on August 2, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Then you need to scratch Paul Ryan off your list. He voted for TARP, the auto/union bailouts, confiscating CEO bonuses, Medicare Part D, and Tuesday’s vote that would allow the president to bypass Congress for appointments. There isn’t a world in which he is any type of conservative.

Dante on August 2, 2012 at 8:15 PM

Karl, STFD and STFU, ok. We are sick and eff’ing tired of damned RINO’s and wishy washy moderates. Tim Pawlenty and those like him are the definition of everyt5hing that has brought us to the edge of disaster.

SWalker on August 2, 2012 at 8:15 PM

It has to be someone with management or executive experience. One of Romney’s themes is that Obama is over his head. Picking someone with only legislative experience undermines that idea, since he has to say his VP is qualified to take over.

Pawlenty, Portman, Jindal, McDonnell. It is one of those, most likely one of the first two since any help in the Rust Belt puts pressure on Obama.

Adjoran on August 2, 2012 at 8:16 PM

KenInIL on August 2, 2012 at 8:12 PM

I love Hoeven: From an ag/energy state too. He wont scare anyone but is solid conservative. One of the most popular governors in years from any state.

I thought he was off the radar, until I saw that he and McDonnell are co-chairs of the platform committee.

I wouldn’t put it past Romney to pick someone that is currently off the radar. Sort of thumb his nose at the press.

Still, Rubio is historical and a gamechanger.

joepub on August 2, 2012 at 8:17 PM

Just don’t make it Rubio or Rice.

VorDaj on August 2, 2012 at 8:18 PM

Boring doesn’t mean safe.

the_nile on August 2, 2012 at 8:18 PM

…But picking Pawlenty — bland and unlikely to help politically in a swing state…

Bland and unlikely to help win their (his) home state are certainly great reasons to pick such a person as the VP nominee…

Wasn’t TPaw the first to drop out?

Gohawgs on August 2, 2012 at 8:18 PM

This video should disqualify him.

Tim Pawlenty: Courage to Stand for Renewable Energy

flyfisher on August 2, 2012 at 8:19 PM

Wrong.

Cue Democrats playing infinite loop ads of OBAMNEYCARE! OBAMNEYCARE! OBAMNEYCARE!

BKennedy on August 2, 2012 at 8:19 PM

Rubio (McCain is too old) and Rice can be VP’s for some Muslim Brotherhood run country.

VorDaj on August 2, 2012 at 8:19 PM

Just remember, Obama wants Romney to pick a scorched-earth conservative. It works well with Obama’s campaign strategy. So, some of you have THAT in common with Obama.

RBMN on August 2, 2012 at 8:20 PM

Is there even one conservative who contributes to this site?

AmeriCuda on August 2, 2012 at 8:00 PM

Yes, her name would be Erika Johnsen, but she is as far as I can tell the ONLY conservative working here.

SWalker on August 2, 2012 at 8:20 PM

No please no.

The VP slot is a throw away position and no more than a ceremonial position really – and whomever is chosen will be trashed for the next four years and their political career-ability to get re-elected- will be over- (sans Ambassador possibly)-

Pawlenty’s political career is already over – and 2016 will not be looking for him -evah. He can’t even bring Minnesota over, Fritz.

No the VP slot should be a gamechanger, again.
Another woman,

Condi Rice.

Romney/Rice

FlaMurph on August 2, 2012 at 8:20 PM

Is there even one conservative who contributes to this site?

AmeriCuda on August 2, 2012 at 8:00 PM

Not since Morrisey was paired with Allah. Nope. Not at all.

TPaw would one of the poorer choices one could make, if, you are looking for an attack dog as Mittens claims to be doing. TPaw might pick Biden apart (and that isn’t asking much at all), but that would be the sum total of his contribution.

However, if you are looking for a conservative as VP pick, then Mittens ain’t your guy.

Quartermaster on August 2, 2012 at 8:20 PM

It is is Pawlenty you know they will drag Jessie the Body Truther from his Mexico beach to bash on how bad Tpaw made MN when he left it in a great shape no mater what why he left it.

Also if it is Romney/Pawlenty it would be okay “if” he also announces Allen West as Sec Def nominee and Paul Ryan as Treasure Sec nominee and John Bolton at Sec State nominee. All on stage during the announcement.

tjexcite on August 2, 2012 at 8:21 PM

Accordingly, I tend to agree with Ross Douthat that Romney will go for a boring choice, but disagree with his discounting of Pawlenty.

Who would be not boring? Rubio? I find him to have become a bore.

VorDaj on August 2, 2012 at 8:21 PM

Pick Rubio and win. Sending the country off the cliff isn’t worth the self esteem boost of a Pawlenty pick.

AmeriCuda on August 2, 2012 at 8:11 PM

I’m not sure Rubio helps. He’s pretty much of a social liberal like Romney. The details and enactment would have been different but Obama pretty much stole Rubio’s ideas for allowing illegals to stay in this nation under a mild version of the DREAM act.

I think it is less of an issue now that the wounds of the primaries have begun to heal but Romney still needs to shore up support among social conservatives and tapping a guy in favor of amnesty while unemployment is over 8% doesn’t seem to be the best choice.

Plus, and I ask this in complete sincerity. If Rubio (who has not even served a complete term in the Senate) were not Hispanic; would he even be named as a frontrunner? Be honest! This is engaging in the identity politics we conservatives despise when the left does it. If putting a non-white guy on the ticket is the aim, then Bobby Jindal is a better choice.

Happy Nomad on August 2, 2012 at 8:22 PM

Why not get a warrior who has some relationship to the cure for our ills?

How about someone from the commentary or financial media. I would say O’Reilly but he has a place in heaven secure at this point and the post of Veep might turn that 180 degrees. He would end up with charity contribution figures like Vice President Biden’s.

How about Rick Santelli? He is in the media, understands macro economics and will do exciting things like convert a F-150 to run on Natural Gas. Check the video. He did it.

Gotta love him!

IlikedAUH2O on August 2, 2012 at 8:24 PM

Also if it is Romney/Pawlenty it would be okay “if” he also announces Allen West as Sec Def nominee and Paul Ryan as Treasure Sec nominee and John Bolton at Sec State nominee. All on stage during the announcement.

tjexcite on August 2, 2012 at 8:21 PM

I’d rather have Newt Gingrich as Sec State. He stood with Michele Bachmann against the Muslim Brotherhood and Batty McCain and Boy Blunder Rubio. Where was John Bolton?

VorDaj on August 2, 2012 at 8:24 PM

It is one of those, most likely one of the first two since any help in the Rust Belt puts pressure on Obama.

Adjoran on August 2, 2012 at 8:16 PM

McDonnell puts pressure on Virginia which is definitely in play. Ryan would accomplish the same thing in the rust belt and provide a VP who understands economic policy.

Portman? What exactly does he offer the ticket except residence in a particular zip code?

Happy Nomad on August 2, 2012 at 8:26 PM

Of course. Add another boring candidate that conservatives, at best, will be lukewarm about. Remember how he ran for president? No, really. He did. I’m serious.

MadisonConservative on August 2, 2012 at 8:27 PM

NO. Just no.

WHY on Earth would Romney waste a golden opportunity on someone like Pawlenty? Romney is starting to catch fire – why throw water on it? Pawlenty would be a disaster – just like he was in the primaries – he is one of the worst candidates I have ever seen.

Pork-Chop on August 2, 2012 at 8:27 PM

Pawlenty is too quick to jump on the latest bandwagon only to regret it later. He is a big supporter of Ethanol, solar, and wind turbines. He did a terrible job in trying to educate Minnesotans about Conservative principles. He is a nice guy who has no depth of belief. He’ll show courage only when he has an unbeatable hand. He never said a peep about voter fraud when the Franken election was happening. He bent over backwards to bring Somalis into Minnesota and right onto our welfare rolls. He did nothing about Sanctuary Cities and the cost to taxpayers paired with the loss of decent jobs. He didn’t fight for Traditional Marriage or School Vouchers. He is not a Conservative Activist.

K Michael ODonovan on August 2, 2012 at 8:27 PM

It will be Pawlenty or McDonnell. I think he will go with someone boring and invisible because he wants this election to be between Obama and generic Republican.

El_Terrible on August 2, 2012 at 8:28 PM

Bottom line: If you don’t like Romney, you’re probably not going to like the person he picks for VP either. You and he are not looking for the same qualities in a VP. McCain threw a hail mary in 2008, but Romney’s not a hail mary kind of guy.

RBMN on August 2, 2012 at 8:29 PM

Rubio! Must be. This Election is far from certain, so I do not know why you would throw away a chance at a conservative that will get the base excited, help carry a must win state and draw in Hispanics that will help in many many states like; PA,OHIO,NJ,VA,MI,WI,AZ,NM,CO.

I mean really this is a no brainer. You know how I know it is the best choice…because the MSM is out there with stories that Rubio would not help Romney carry Florida. They are scared…Very Scared

Natebo on August 2, 2012 at 8:29 PM

Who the hell is Tyrone West?!

ThePrez on August 2, 2012 at 8:10 PM

Its racist code for Allen West.

magicbeans on August 2, 2012 at 8:31 PM

But a better choice would be Sen. John Hoeven of ND. 10 years as governor: he has a state that is doing even better than TX.

KenInIL on August 2, 2012 at 8:12 PM

I hear you. My neighbor here in DC even works for him. BUT outside of wonks know anything about him? In the last 100 days of the campaign, is it possible to introduce the nation to a largely unknown Senator? Again, I don’t disagree with your choice but wonder if there is time given the number of bitter far right voters who claim they will stay at home if they don’t like the VP nominee.

Happy Nomad on August 2, 2012 at 8:31 PM

Bolton or Palin a pitbull that will take the harry reid ear whispers to task and tell reid to prove it or STFU.

Not a bland ghost, a warrior that takes no prisoners and leaves the carpet full of the rats blood and guts!

Excite the base and let the veep take the traditional veep role while Romney floats above it all just like he did in the primaries!

Dance with the girl that got ya here! A surrogate to take names and kick asses while Mitt talks economy

ConcealedKerry on August 2, 2012 at 8:32 PM

Well, it certainly will be boring.

magicbeans on August 2, 2012 at 8:32 PM

Per Cheney’s recent assertion, Rubio and others new to national politics shouldn’t be picked as a VP nominee…

Gohawgs on August 2, 2012 at 8:33 PM

Ed, is that you? :-)

Seriously, allow me to throw a wild card into the mix – Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI). Before going to the Senate in 2010 (by knocking off Russ Feingold, somebody who wasn’t vulnerable until early 2010 and then only to Tommy Thompson), he ran Pacur quite well for a few decades. He also is a very quick study on political processes.

The bad news – it is quite conceivable he would be replaced by Feingold; he would not pass up the opportunity to take his old seat back and more importantly, the DPW would not let him pass up the opportunity.

Steve Eggleston on August 2, 2012 at 8:33 PM

NEWT!

Newt would be fun. Watching him pick apart moderators and their questions was incredibly fun. He is supremely articulate and he has an ability to educate people on the issues on par with Limbaugh and Levin.

El_Terrible on August 2, 2012 at 8:37 PM

No, Pawlenty wouldn’t be the best pick for VP. C’mon … who doesn’t remember how he wimped out during the early debates with the “Obamneycare” quip? I wanted to see him slam Romney on that, but the way he pulled back from it even as it escaped from his lips was the ultimate in chickening out.

PatriotGal2257 on August 2, 2012 at 8:38 PM

Newt would be great but the media would do 24/7 coverage of Newt. Might as well do Palin then she has been about as vetted as a person can get and has the added attraction of a big draw for conservatives and the ability to eviscerate with minimal verb age…..Death Panels!

ConcealedKerry on August 2, 2012 at 8:40 PM

I’ll simply reiterate that my analysis is not based on what I would do, but how I think Team Romney thinks. HA commenters want excitement and charisma. I have yet to see any sign those are what Team Romney is looking for. If Mitt were to pick, say, Rubio, I would not think he did it to energize the grassroots, but because he’s worried about losing Florida. And if he’s worried about losing Florida, that’s not a good thing.

Karl on August 2, 2012 at 8:40 PM

McCain threw a hail mary in 2008, but Romney’s not a hail mary kind of guy.

RBMN on August 2, 2012 at 8:29 PM

No he is Mormon. Of course McCain is a Protestant so he isn’t exactly a hail mary kind of guy either.

This isn’t 2008. We have a GOP challenger seeking to make an incumbent into a one-term President. Palin and the excitement she generated for the ticket is a different dynamic that the 2012 race.

I hope Palin supporters don’t take this thought out of context but Palin’s nomination was designed to counteract the fact that you had an old and not particularly personable white guy running against a too-cool-for-school hipster. Palin was, in part, a campaign gimmick. Yes, she was qualified for the job but the whole reason why she was on the ticket was because the Dems were putting up a “black” candidate and the GOP countered by offering up a war hero and female. It would have been interesting to see how a President McCain used VP Palin in his administration. I suspect she’d have all the visibility and responsibilities that traditionally go with that role. Which is to say after inaguration, the next time we would even hear her name was when it came time for reeelection.

Happy Nomad on August 2, 2012 at 8:42 PM

Karl,

HA commenters want excitement, charisma, competence and a reluctance to gladfly onto the latest leftist inspired social issue — carbon taxes/credits, man made global warming, ethanol subsidies, larger Fed expenditures…

Gohawgs on August 2, 2012 at 8:45 PM

Karl He should be worried about losing Florida.I’ll simply reiterate that my analysis is not based on what I would do, but how I think Team Romney thinks. HA commenters want excitement and charisma. I have yet to see any sign those are what Team Romney is looking for. If Mitt were to pick, say, Rubio, I would not think he did it to energize the grassroots, but because he’s worried about losing Florida. And if he’s worried about losing Florida, that’s not a good thing.

Karl on August 2, 2012 at 8:40 PM

Natebo on August 2, 2012 at 8:46 PM

HA commenters want excitement and charisma.

I’d be thrilled with a boring conservative.

flyfisher on August 2, 2012 at 8:48 PM

No way. Bob McDonald from Virginia to allow experience as senator for Rubio. Rubio could run in 8 years after Romney’s two terms.

dthorny on August 2, 2012 at 8:49 PM

T-Paw never got more than 43% of the vote in Minny. He was lucky he ran against weak DFL and post-Jesse Ventura IP candidates.

A Mittens/T-Paw ticket would have the dubious distinction of losing both candidates home states.

Please, Rubio, the Fat Man, Ryan – anyone but T-Paw.

Bruno Strozek on August 2, 2012 at 8:50 PM

Why is it that everyone who isn’t some boring white guy is labeled an i’dentity pick’, regardless of the experience they have. A brilliant two-term governor like Jindal is an ‘identity pick’ but Portman, who has never run anything (but the Bush economy into the ground) is qualified?
Rubio, though not as experienced, is the most inspiring and eloquent politician in the country. People actually WANT to live in the country this guy describes.
I’m not one to believe anything the MSM says, particularly their polls, but I do believe Romney is starting to turn people off. He needs to offer the country something to rally behind, even if its only a visible VP. Voting against Obama is enough to conservatives and most republicans, but it’s not going to win Mitt the White House.

AmeriCuda on August 2, 2012 at 8:53 PM

Karl, STFD and STFU, ok. We are sick and eff’ing tired of damned RINO’s and wishy washy moderates. Tim Pawlenty and those like him are the definition of everyt5hing that has brought us to the edge of disaster.

SWalker on August 2, 2012 at 8:15 PM

Will you be pulling the lever for Romney?

Dante on August 2, 2012 at 8:55 PM

You’re over thinking this. Who cares about inferring Romney’s psycho-political state of mind? Romney needs to pick a capable and ethically irreproachable individual with solid conservative credentials who could assume the presidency.

rrpjr on August 2, 2012 at 8:55 PM

Why is it that everyone who isn’t some boring white guy is labeled an i’dentity pick’, regardless of the experience they have.

AmeriCuda on August 2, 2012 at 8:53 PM

Why is it that anybody who isn’t an ethnic minority is labeled as some boring white guy?

sharrukin on August 2, 2012 at 8:57 PM

Will you be pulling the lever for Romney?

Dante on August 2, 2012 at 8:55 PM

Oh just Eff off you phuckin Neo-Anarchist as$hole.

SWalker on August 2, 2012 at 9:04 PM

I’ll simply reiterate that my analysis is not based on what I would do, but how I think Team Romney thinks. HA commenters want excitement and charisma. I have yet to see any sign those are what Team Romney is looking for. If Mitt were to pick, say, Rubio, I would not think he did it to energize the grassroots, but because he’s worried about losing Florida. And if he’s worried about losing Florida, that’s not a good thing.

Karl on August 2, 2012 at 8:40 PM

I agree with you about Pawlenty, but for different reasons. I think he can help carry WI, and at least force Team Liar to spend resources in MN. I have never thought MN was out of our grasp, especially with Romney heading the ticket.

More importantly, though, is there is no downside to his candidacy if Romney is successful. With Rubio, Portman, or Jindal, you sacrifice seats that we, as a party, cannot guarantee we will win the replacement election. Especially in the cases of the Senators, that matters, a lot.

Pawlenty has proven himself competent. He’s proven himself a winner, and able to win on Democratic turf. He is Johnny Midwest, a region that’s kind of important to us, in case all you Pawlenty naysayers missed that in the newspapers.

Exactly what more would you want in a veep?

JohnGalt23 on August 2, 2012 at 9:04 PM

Will you be pulling the lever for Romney?

Dante on August 2, 2012 at 8:55 PM

Oh just Eff off you phuckin Neo-Anarchist as$hole.

SWalker on August 2, 2012 at 9:04 PM

Looks like somebody struck a nerve…

JohnGalt23 on August 2, 2012 at 9:06 PM

If we’re going to go with white and boring, how about my Gov. McDonnell? Geographically strategic pick, and I think he does a better job at deconstructing liberal arguments off the cuff than Pawlenty. His liabilities are that the press will label him an anti-woman Confederate racist, whereas Pawlenty and Portman would largely be immune to that kind of attack (though they will still try – they sure ain’t gonna get to go after Obama’s academic transcripts).

The Count on August 2, 2012 at 9:10 PM

Just what we need.
The only way someone can be governor of MA is to be a Rino. The only way someone can be governor of MN is to be a Rino.
Nothing like having two of the same kind on the ticket…. when this country so DESPERATELY needs a conservative!
Sorry, but I’m still hoping against hope that Romney has the sense to pick a conservative. Someone who was governor of a blue state just does not fit the bill.
I have to take Romney; but for heaven’s sake at least let ONE on the ticket be a honest red-blooded conservative! Please….

PackerFan4Life on August 2, 2012 at 9:10 PM

Pawlenty? He was a great governor. I like him a lot. But I don’t think so. I think the question (as a party) is, who do we want to groom to succeed Romney in 2020? My choice would be Paul Ryan. Romney could appoint him with some critical budgetary task, to put his abilities to good use, as VP (much as George W. tasked Cheney with national security). My second choice would be Marco Rubio. I place him second because his leadership credits are below that of Ryan.

minnesoter on August 2, 2012 at 9:10 PM

Oh just Eff off you phuckin Neo-Anarchist as$hole.

SWalker on August 2, 2012 at 9:04 PM

So I’ll take that as a “Yes, even though I’m whining about being ‘effing tired of damed RINO’s and wishy washy moderates.’ I’ll be voting for them anyway.”

Dante on August 2, 2012 at 9:12 PM

Why Pawlenty would be the best pick for Veep How to lose, and lose big, to the one President who’s worse than Jimmy Carter

Left Coast Right Mind on August 2, 2012 at 9:14 PM

For Romney to win he needs to pick a VP that conservatives can embrace as one of their own.

Unfortunately, Pawlenty is not that person. Neither is Rice, Christie, Ryan, Rubio, Jindal, Bush or Portman.

Just my two cents worth.

john.frank on August 2, 2012 at 9:17 PM

People don’t realize what an asset Pawlenty would be to the ticket.
mountainaires on August 2, 2012 at 7:56 PM

Only off by two letters there.

whatcat on August 2, 2012 at 9:17 PM

Oh just Eff off you phuckin Neo-Anarchist as$hole.

SWalker on August 2, 2012 at 9:04 PM

So I’ll take that as a “Yes, even though I’m whining about being ‘effing tired of damed RINO’s and wishy washy moderates.’ I’ll be voting for them anyway.”

Dante on August 2, 2012 at 9:12 PM

Beats voting for Obama like you will do.

SWalker on August 2, 2012 at 9:18 PM

A question:

Do any of you RINO hunters really think for a second that a veep’s political ideology is going to matter one tinker’s dam in how Romney governs with a GOP Congress? Do you really think Marco Rubio is going to have more influence over policy as Veep than he will as Senator from FLA?

Seriously?

JohnGalt23 on August 2, 2012 at 9:19 PM

Per Cheney’s recent assertion, Rubio and others new to national politics shouldn’t be picked as a VP nominee…

Gohawgs on August 2, 2012 at 8:33 PM

That only applies to Palin, ya silly.

I say Romney will end up picking Portman. He absolutely has to have Ohio. It looks like a double-yawner ticket whichever way you turn. Portman, McDonnell or Pawlenty.

ddrintn on August 2, 2012 at 9:20 PM

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