Why Pawlenty would be the best pick for Veep

posted at 7:41 pm on August 2, 2012 by Karl

Naming Tim Pawlenty as the best choice for Mitt Romney’s running-mate will sound crazy to some, but bear with me for a bit. Most of the media pieces about Mitt Romney’s veepstakes are geared to figuring out who Romney will pick. That is mostly a fool’s errand, especially for GOP VP picks. It may be more revealing to project ourselves to the moment after the pick is made to examine what the pick might say about how Team Romney sees the race.

Romney’s selection process is likely driven by two fundamentals — the fundamental of VP picks and the fundamental of his campaign. First, political scientists tend to think that the VP pick may be be about 2 or 3 percentage points in the VP’s home state, with even more marginal effects nationally (and those national effects of 1 or 2 points could be positive or negative). Enough people see 2012 as a close election that Romney is likely to take these nominally small effects seriously, beyond the question of basic qualifications for a veep.

Second, the fundamental point of the Romney campaign is to keep everyone focused to the maximum extent on Obama’s record, particularly on the economy. Romney should be most likely to pick a running-mate who gives Team Obama and the media the smallest opportunity for changing the subject.

Accordingly, I tend to agree with Ross Douthat that Romney will go for a boring choice, but disagree with his discounting of Pawlenty. As Sean Trende has pointed out, Pawlenty has most of the positives Romney is looking for and almost none of the negatives. Douthat and Trende sort of agree that Pawlenty’s biggest negative is that he is not exciting… but if boring is what Romney wants, this is a feature, not a bug.

By my analysis, Pawlenty’s potential negative is that he probably does not put Minnesota in the Romney column. However, if Romney picks Pawlenty, it would suggest that Team Romney feels confident Mitt can win without the sort of home state boost others might provide. In contrast, if Romney picks Marco Rubio, Rob Portman or even Kelly Ayotte, it would suggest Team Romney harbors various levels of concern about the Electoral College (and perhaps concern about Romney’s standing with Hispanics or college-educated women). If Romney picked someone like Paul Ryan, it might suggest Romney wants to change the subject from Obama / the economy and a certain level of panic in Romneyland.

I might prefer others on Romney’s likely short list as a veep pick. The electoral map may well push Romney to one of those choices. But picking Pawlenty — bland and unlikely to help politically in a swing state — may speak volumes about how Romney views his odds of victory in November.

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LOL!! Stop it fer Christ’s sake, dude, yer killin’ me

Old eagle on August 2, 2012 at 9:21 PM

Pawlenty? He was a great governor. I like him a lot. But I don’t think so. I think the question (as a party) is, who do we want to groom to succeed Romney in 2020?

minnesoter on August 2, 2012 at 9:10 PM

Nobody. Let the voters choose a candidate. This whole “grooming” and “next in line” garbage needs to go.

ddrintn on August 2, 2012 at 9:22 PM

I choose Jindal, but I think it will be Portman or McDonnell. Of those two, I like McDonnell better. He’s a governor and is the successful executive of the commonwealth. Mitt needs to determine his chances of winning OH or VA without choosing a veep from those states.

Jindal is the most qualified candidate and will probably be passed up because Mitt does not need him to win the South. Mitt can name him HHS Secretary, and he would be excellent in that post. I will be disappointed, but that’s politics.

Philly on August 2, 2012 at 9:22 PM

A question:

Do any of you RINO hunters really think for a second that a veep’s political ideology is going to matter one tinker’s dam in how Romney governs with a GOP Congress?

JohnGalt23 on August 2, 2012 at 9:19 PM

No, it matters in trying to help pull an unelectable squish’s ass over the finish line.

ddrintn on August 2, 2012 at 9:24 PM

Beats voting for Obama like you will do.

SWalker on August 2, 2012 at 9:18 PM

Do you not realize just how ridiculous and childish you are being?

Dante on August 2, 2012 at 9:24 PM

Jindal is the most qualified candidate…

Philly on August 2, 2012 at 9:22 PM

Except for that whole Constitutional eligibility issue, then no, he’s not qualified at all.

Dante on August 2, 2012 at 9:25 PM

Oh just Eff off you phuckin Neo-Anarchist as$hole.

SWalker on August 2, 2012 at 9:04 PM

So I’ll take that as a “Yes, even though I’m whining about being ‘effing tired of damed RINO’s and wishy washy moderates.’ I’ll be voting for them anyway.”

Dante on August 2, 2012 at 9:12 PM

Ouch. Dante does have a point here.

ddrintn on August 2, 2012 at 9:26 PM

I don’t understand the constant calls for Rubio to be named. He has been in the Senate for two years, and he talks a lot. Sound familiar?

Stray Cat on August 2, 2012 at 9:27 PM

Jindal is the most qualified candidate and will probably be passed up because Mitt does not need him to win the South. Mitt can name him HHS Secretary, and he would be excellent in that post. I will be disappointed, but that’s politics.

Philly on August 2, 2012 at 9:22 PM

I hope Jindal stays clear of this. We don’t need some other rising star being tarnished by being hitched to yet another GOP moderate candidate.

ddrintn on August 2, 2012 at 9:28 PM

I don’t understand the constant calls for Rubio to be named. He has been in the Senate for two years, and he talks a lot. Sound familiar?

Stray Cat on August 2, 2012 at 9:27 PM

The thought is that Rubio will bring in about 80% of the Latino vote. It’s not talked about in that way, but that’s the thinking. Rubio’s stock has gone down. He wouldn’t have much of an effect at all.

ddrintn on August 2, 2012 at 9:30 PM

No, it matters in trying to help pull an unelectable squish’s ass over the finish line.

ddrintn on August 2, 2012 at 9:24 PM

Are you really going to try to sell us on the logic that, after four years of Team Liar, after Obamacare, after the rewriting of the bankruptcy code for the UAW, after Fast and Furious, after Solyndra, after “You didn’t build that”, after “It worked”… after all that, what is going to make the difference between True Conservatives coming out to vote or not is whether the Veep meets some ridiculous Right Wing litmus test?

Are you really trying to sell us on the idea that True Conservatives are idiots?

Seriously?

JohnGalt23 on August 2, 2012 at 9:31 PM

Are you really going to try to sell us on the logic that, after four years of Team Liar, after Obamacare, after the rewriting of the bankruptcy code for the UAW, after Fast and Furious, after Solyndra, after “You didn’t build that”, after “It worked”… after all that, what is going to make the difference between True Conservatives coming out to vote or not is whether the Veep meets some ridiculous Right Wing litmus test?

Are you really trying to sell us on the idea that True Conservatives are idiots?

Seriously?

JohnGalt23 on August 2, 2012 at 9:31 PM

Are you really going to tell me that after outrage over ObamaCare the GOP is going to nominate the guy who signed its blueprint into law? REALLY???? Are you going to tell me that?

ddrintn on August 2, 2012 at 9:33 PM

The thought is that Rubio will bring in about 80% of the Latino vote. It’s not talked about in that way, but that’s the thinking. Rubio’s stock has gone down. He wouldn’t have much of an effect at all.

ddrintn on August 2, 2012 at 9:30 PM

Oh ok. So it is a minority pick. So, he has been in the Senate for two years, talks a lot, and is a minority. That does sound familiar.

Stray Cat on August 2, 2012 at 9:34 PM

^ And no, it’s not about the same old ****ing tired lameass “purity tests”. It’s about conservatives getting a sop thrown to them after being screwed over once again.

ddrintn on August 2, 2012 at 9:35 PM

Do you really think Marco Rubio is going to have more influence over policy as Veep than he will as Senator from FLA?
Seriously?
JohnGalt23 on August 2, 2012 at 9:19 PM

You have to keep in mind the VP job description consists of pretty much just two things; serving as President of the United States Senate (w/the tie breaker vote) and, of more importance, stepping into the office of POTUS in case the POTUS is unable to serve.

whatcat on August 2, 2012 at 9:35 PM

Oh ok. So it is a minority pick. So, he has been in the Senate for two years, talks a lot, and is a minority. That does sound familiar.

Stray Cat on August 2, 2012 at 9:34 PM

Rubio does give a mean speech and can come out with some red-meat sort of statement at appropriate times. Other than that, I’ve not seen evidence of much.

ddrintn on August 2, 2012 at 9:37 PM

Rubio does give a mean speech and can come out with some red-meat sort of statement at appropriate times. Other than that, I’ve not seen evidence of much.

ddrintn on August 2, 2012 at 9:37 PM

I agree with you……hmm trying to think of who that reminds me of on the left side.

hmmm

Stray Cat on August 2, 2012 at 9:41 PM

Mr. Bore/Mr. Boring

Schadenfreude on August 2, 2012 at 9:42 PM

I agree with you……hmm trying to think of who that reminds me of on the left side.

hmmm

Stray Cat on August 2, 2012 at 9:41 PM

Well, there are similarities for sure. Palin’s been called the GOP Obama, but Palin had a pretty solid record as far as reform is concerned. Rubio’s mostly rhetoric, like Obama.

ddrintn on August 2, 2012 at 9:42 PM

Mr. Bore/Mr. Boring

Schadenfreude on August 2, 2012 at 9:42 PM

Or Mr Boring/ Mr Boringer. You choose who’s who, doesn’t matter.

ddrintn on August 2, 2012 at 9:43 PM

But the media said we have to pick someone who isn’t a “boring white man” in order to appeal to… uh… or something. Something along those lines.

Punchenko on August 2, 2012 at 9:46 PM

We better do what the media tells us and stuff.

Punchenko on August 2, 2012 at 9:49 PM

RE: Sen. John Hoeven, ND … is it possible to introduce the nation to a largely unknown Senator?

Happy Nomad on August 2, 2012 at 8:31 PM

Everyone is raving about that unknown Gov. Pawlenty and his milquetoast record as gov. Can anyone in MN give you 2 of his major accomplishments? Ask the man on the street to identify him.

Remember Palin was a unknown governor. After her convention speech was drawing bigger crowds than McShame.

Sen. John Hoeven, ND for VP !!

KenInIL on August 2, 2012 at 9:54 PM

You Hotair fools are dumb. I saw Pawlenty on the stump in NH, I spent time with him. Guess what, it’s a myth that’s not a good speaker. A huge myth. You people here claim to abhor the media, but you buy their crap left and right. Sorry, Pawlenty is not the vanilla loser you claim him to be. He also won a blue state as a legit R.

Then again, you also believed Huntsman was a liberal, even though he had the most conservative governing record in the field of candidates last fall.

Poor Hotair tools, lots of opinions, and not many of them valid.

SuperBunny on August 2, 2012 at 9:58 PM

Are you really going to tell me that after outrage over ObamaCare the GOP is going to nominate the guy who signed its blueprint into law? REALLY???? Are you going to tell me that?

ddrintn on August 2, 2012 at 9:33 PM

Haven’t been reading the newspapers, have you?

And no, it’s not about the same old ****ing tired lameass “purity tests”. It’s about conservatives getting a sop thrown to them after being screwed over once again.

ddrintn on August 2, 2012 at 9:35 PM

Ted Cruz. Dick Mourdoch. I’d say those are two mighty big morsels for the Right to savor.

Romney won the nomination, fair and square. That means he has to pick a veep that fits in with his strategy of winning. Which is a veep’s job. He doesn’t exist to further ideological principles. He exists to help win.

We advance conservatism through a conservative Congress. We advance the GOP through presidential elections.

JohnGalt23 on August 2, 2012 at 10:00 PM

Romney’s going to win in a relative landslide. He should be working right now on a mandate — to rollback the malignantly intrusive government and reform Washington top to bottom. He should promise an independent audit of the entire government. He should outline 10 reforms, including total tax reform, the eradication of the IRS and should list the other departments to zero out and/or consolidate. He should promise record revenues to the government based on tax cuts across the board. He should promise the restoration of all religious, medical and economic liberties stolen under Barack Obama, and itemize each and every one of them. He should be jawboning daily about the conflict between the State and the individual, and how the rise of the State under Obama proves the lie of the democrat party as the party of the little guy, and further proves the party’s dangerous and destructive romance with Leftism, a movement which has produced the worst economies and worst and most desperate living standards of any movement in modern history. He should discuss how Republicans and conservatives historically have made life freer and opportunities for individual empowerment greater than anybody in American history, and that he will commit himself to unprecedented gains in both areas. He should recognize that 2012 is the greatest opportunity for conservatism in memory and that he could unite the country as never before behind a message of true, constitutional-based reform in Washington. He should challenge the editors of the major American newspapers and the CEOs of the major mainstream networks to a debate, because, he should say, they are the real power brokers behind American decline, and they need to come out of the shadows and defend the failed ideology they propagandize about daily in their failing media empires.

If he did these things, he could pick a ham sandwich as his VP. Pawlenty would do just as well.

But he won’t do or say any of these things.

At this point I wish only that he picks a fighter. But then I ask myself, do we even have one? (other than the crass RINO fanfaron Christie?)

rrpjr on August 2, 2012 at 10:02 PM

You have to keep in mind the VP job description consists of pretty much just two things; serving as President of the United States Senate (w/the tie breaker vote) and, of more importance, stepping into the office of POTUS in case the POTUS is unable to serve.

whatcat on August 2, 2012 at 9:35 PM

I don’t think there’s any question in anyone’s mind that Tim Pawlenty is prepared to serve as POTUS, should the need arise.

JohnGalt23 on August 2, 2012 at 10:02 PM

You Hotair fools are dumb. I saw Pawlenty on the stump in NH, I spent time with him. Guess what, it’s a myth that’s not a good speaker. A huge myth. You people here claim to abhor the media, but you buy their crap left and right. Sorry, Pawlenty is not the vanilla loser you claim him to be. He also won a blue state as a legit R.

Then again, you also believed Huntsman was a liberal, even though he had the most conservative governing record in the field of candidates last fall.

Poor Hotair tools, lots of opinions, and not many of them valid.

SuperBunny on August 2, 2012 at 9:58 PM

Oh, my. Someone is grossly misinformed.

Dante on August 2, 2012 at 10:06 PM

Dante on August 2, 2012 at 9:25 PM

Neither is Barry, and he’s sitting in the Oval Office with his feet on the desk.

Not going to litigate this again on Hot Gas. Nope, not gonna do it.

Philly on August 2, 2012 at 10:10 PM

Yes, Rubio would be an “identity pick”, but we need to face facts: The two largest minority voting blocks are African-Americans and Hispanic Americans.

The GOP will never get more than 10% of the A-A vote. They do have a chance to bring the Hispanic vote home where is belongs. Rubio is a big step in that direction. In 10 years or so, it will matter alot that close to a majority of hispanics vote GOP because of Rubio. If we lose the Hispanic vote, Conservatives will never again be a majority party.

joepub on August 2, 2012 at 10:13 PM

You have to keep in mind the VP job description consists of pretty much just two things; serving as President of the United States Senate (w/the tie breaker vote) and, of more importance, stepping into the office of POTUS in case the POTUS is unable to serve.
whatcat on August 2, 2012 at 9:35 PM

I don’t think there’s any question in anyone’s mind that Tim Pawlenty is prepared to serve as POTUS, should the need arise.
JohnGalt23 on August 2, 2012 at 10:02 PM

Be that as it may, he couldn’t even interest Republican voters. When a candidate can’t attract votes it’s a moot point if he is “prepared” or not.

whatcat on August 2, 2012 at 10:25 PM

Be that as it may, he couldn’t even interest Republican voters. When a candidate can’t attract votes it’s a moot point if he is “prepared” or not.

whatcat on August 2, 2012 at 10:25 PM

Approximately how many votes did Dick Cheney attract?

JohnGalt23 on August 2, 2012 at 10:28 PM

Yeah, pick Pawlenty and suck the life out of any conservative who were finally getting enthusied for voting for Romney.

Pawlenty is a dolt. I wishy washy RINO with the worst kind of dark cloud ju ju. He screams—This ticket is a loser.

The only way Romney wins this election is to get a Scott Walker/Ted Cruz type conservative bust out…..Pawlenty puts people like me back into a John McCain state of mind. Ill show up and vote but its completely against Obama and not one bit FOR Romney.

This article was a giant pile of stupid and i feel dumber for having read it.

Pawlenty sucks worse than Romney ever could.

alecj on August 2, 2012 at 10:33 PM

Nobody. Let the voters choose a candidate. This whole “grooming” and “next in line” garbage needs to go.

ddrintn on August 2, 2012 at 9:22 PM

But history is what it is. Harry S. Truman in 1946; Lyndon Johnson in 1964; George H.W. Bush in 1988 … If Romney picks a younger man for his VP, the chances are good that if he preforms well in the post, he will be the leading candidate to succeed Romney in 2020.

minnesoter on August 2, 2012 at 10:34 PM

Be that as it may, he couldn’t even interest Republican voters. When a candidate can’t attract votes it’s a moot point if he is “prepared” or not.
whatcat on August 2, 2012 at 10:25 PM

Approximately how many votes did Dick Cheney attract?
JohnGalt23 on August 2, 2012 at 10:28 PM

If memory serves, Cheney wasn’t in the primaries. Although very few people vote for VP, Romney’s going to have come up with a selection that at least Republicans can feel some excitement about.

whatcat on August 2, 2012 at 10:35 PM

I don’t understand the constant calls for Rubio to be named. He has been in the Senate for two years, and he talks a lot. Sound familiar?

Stray Cat on August 2, 2012 at 9:27 PM

There’s no substance to your argument. Rubio is Rubio, he is not Obama.

minnesoter on August 2, 2012 at 10:36 PM

Except for that whole Constitutional eligibility issue, then no, he’s not qualified at all.

Dante on August 2, 2012 at 9:25 PM

Folks,

Let me introduce you to a charter member of the Godless Commie Birther organization.

Happy Nomad on August 2, 2012 at 10:39 PM

Folks,

Let me introduce you to a charter member of the Godless Commie Birther organization.

Happy Nomad on August 2, 2012 at 10:39 PM

Why are you so opposed to seeing the Constitution upheld and why do you mock the Framers’ vision and beliefs?

Dante on August 2, 2012 at 10:41 PM

I’m afraid that that Romney will follow your advice. Against an incumbent black who, despite egregious errors, is still reasonably popular, two white guys just “ain’t” going to make it this election. The credit card “issue” with Rubio, probably scared off the poltroonish Romney. Rubio is a winner. So is Jindal.

MaiDee on August 2, 2012 at 10:47 PM

SuperBunny on August 2, 2012 at 9:58 PM

Okay, so SuperBunny likes Pawlenty and some guy named Huntsman.

Super Bunny.

Mmmmm, sorry, I’m just not feeling the excitement there.

How about Romney/Walker? Now THAT would be fun.

minnesoter on August 2, 2012 at 10:48 PM

Folks,

Let me introduce you to a charter member of the Godless Commie Birther organization.

Happy Nomad on August 2, 2012 at 10:39 PM

It sounds humorous, but the words make no sense.

minnesoter on August 2, 2012 at 10:54 PM

Please, shut the hell up about Pawlenty. Unless you want him to impel voters to fall asleep in droves and sleep through the election, there is no reason to pick a guy who was one of the first to fall on his ass trying to run for President in the first place.

Really? You want one of the first abject failures in this round of Presidential aspirations?

Midas on August 2, 2012 at 11:01 PM

Sadly, this is very weak reasoning . . . i.e., that Pawlenty should be selected because he is boring, coupled with the fact that his choice will somehow get inside the Democrats’ heads if they think that Romney choosing a candidate from an essentially non-winnable state will mean to them that he made the choice without giving consideration to the “sort of home state boost others might provide.” I just don’t get that one!

The other part of the argument is that because Pawlenty is boring, it will likely afford Romney the added benefit of minimizing the possibility of the Vice-Presidential choice being used by the Democrats to change the subject from the economy. That one is at least understandable, if unconvincing. They are going to try to change the subject regardless.

While Karl did bring up Senator Rubio and Bobby Jindall, he neglected to mention one of the top three candidates, Senator Rob Portman of Ohio.

Lots of people say he’s boring too, although he has been a proven vote getter in every federal race he’s run in, including in his recent Senate race. He held his opponent to 39% of the vote in Ohio, a state which is essential to a Romney win in the fall.

In my view, not mentioning Portman was the only way Karl could come up with the thin gruel on which this post is premised.

Trochilus on August 2, 2012 at 11:05 PM

Approximately how many votes did Dick Cheney attract?
JohnGalt23 on August 2, 2012 at 10:28 PM

Every one, amongst the people with whom I have discussed the matter.

Picking Cheney was the first thing that fooled me into thinking GWB wasn’t the progressive that his father was.

LegendHasIt on August 2, 2012 at 11:15 PM

Pawlenty sucks worse than Romney ever could.
alecj on August 2, 2012 at 10:33 PM

Oh, I wouldn’t go quite that far. I’d say he sucks slightly less than Romney.

GOP: The Sucks Slightly Less Party

LegendHasIt on August 2, 2012 at 11:19 PM

It doesn’t matter who Romney picks because he’s still at the top of the ticket. I don’t trust him, have no reason to trust him, and honestly can’t imagine how the Republican party survives as a viable political entity after this, whether or not Romney wins.

The truth is, the Republic is way off the rails, and neither party has a clue how to fix it. So we have these silly dramas over which RINO the RINO will pick, as if that matters when they are running against a thoroughly and unabashedly corrupt regime with the full backing of the Hollywood-Media Establishment, which has a Vulcan mind grip over nearly half the population.

Someone please tell me, how does this end well?

bobcalco on August 2, 2012 at 11:24 PM

The truth is, the Republic is way off the rails, and neither party has a clue how to fix it.

bobcalco on August 2, 2012 at 11:24 PM

Why do you think they would want to fix it?

Dante on August 2, 2012 at 11:28 PM

Dante on August 2, 2012 at 10:06 PM

Wow, some rebuttal there. You really told me.

SuperBunny on August 2, 2012 at 11:42 PM

People fantasize about GOP candidate XYZ crushing Biden in a VP debate…

Why is Biden assumed to be the VP candidate for the dems? At this point he adds nothing, and can easily be a liability.

I hate to say it, but I expect he’ll abruptly “want to spend more time with the family”, and Obama will pair with the Hildabeast. What choice does he have – she’ll pull in votes, and he’s clearly struggling. And it’d probably buy a little more loyalty from Slick Willie down the stretch.

bofh on August 2, 2012 at 11:45 PM

The truth is, the Republic is way off the rails, and neither party has a clue how to fix it.

bobcalco on August 2, 2012 at 11:24 PM

Why do you think they would want to fix it?

Dante on August 2, 2012 at 11:28 PM

Set, and, gotta admit it, SPIKE

RushBaby on August 3, 2012 at 12:16 AM

Why are the Democrats picking an unknown Hispanic mayor to give the keynote speech? Because they’re terrified of the fact that unlike the GOP, they have no rising minority stars. No Jindals or Haleys from the
Asian communities. No Rubios or Cruzs from the Hispanic community. And nobody as charismatic or attractive as Palin or Bachmann from the female population.

How is Rubio less qualified to be VP than Obama was qualified to by POTUS four years ago? If 52% of the population was willing to vote for
Obama, I see absolutely no good reason for Romney to consider anyone else besides Rubio, Jindal, or Susanna Martinez. They can’t call Jindal an Uncle Tom (even though he’s darker than Obama), and they can’t call Rubio a Hispanic traitor, since the Cuban community in Miami has a long history of supporting the GOP.

The Dems are terrified that Romney will choose a Latino. Please, make their worst fears come true.

ardenenoch on August 3, 2012 at 12:38 AM

Nobody. Let the voters choose a candidate. This whole “grooming” and “next in line” garbage needs to go.

ddrintn

The voters chose our candidate this time and in 2008. How’d that work out for you? I’d say it’s time we start grooming some folks for the job, preferably conservative ones.

They do have a chance to bring the Hispanic vote home where is belongs. Rubio is a big step in that direction.

No he isn’t, and no they don’t. The only way Hispanics start voting republican is if we start governing as liberals.

In 10 years or so, it will matter alot that close to a majority of hispanics vote GOP because of Rubio.

Especially if he gets his amnesty wish granted.

If we lose the Hispanic vote, Conservatives will never again be a majority party.

joepub

If we govern as democrats to get Hispanic votes, there will be no Conservative party anyway.

xblade on August 3, 2012 at 12:47 AM

Two points.

First, the country can survive a “moderate” (read squishy RINO) President, as long as his court appointments are right of center, and he doesn’t think that Executive Privilege permits him to violate the law. That is, we can survive it if we have a more strongly Conservative Congress, and it looks good on that count.

Second, choosing a VP candidate based on issues such as “home-state bounce” or preventing the opposition from having a chance to change the subject, is pure cowardice, and will be called out as such by the progs. Borrow a spine, and take a stand. Choose someone further to the Right than you are (a very broad range to work with), Mr. Romney, and you will gain tremendous amounts of votes. Choose someone as much like you as possible, and you will lose tremendous amounts of votes.

Freelancer on August 3, 2012 at 1:39 AM

Wh…ah, nevermind…

Knott Buyinit on August 3, 2012 at 1:42 AM

I *heart* T-Paw.
There.
I said it.

:P

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on August 3, 2012 at 3:36 AM

A 20% gasohol mandate takes effect in Minnesota in 5 short months, thanks to Tim Pawlenty. Never mind the cost of corn is soaring, is your car capable of running on such just because a Poli Sci retard mandated that your car run on such, never mind what the real scientists say?

Just say no

MNHawk on August 3, 2012 at 7:07 AM

TPaw? No way. There is something shady about the guy that I don’t trust. I never met him personally (*grins*) to form this conclusion, but my gut feeling is telling me the guy would hinder the chances of winning in November.

Portman who? Never heard of the guy; not sure if that is a good thing or not.

My choice out of the short list would be Rubio.

gothicreader on August 3, 2012 at 7:14 AM

I’ve said before that Tim Pawlenty is the perfect choice for Romney: he will not overshadow Mitt, he will not be someone that you wish was in the top spot (and if you like Rubio now, then imagine him in 4 to 8 years with more work record behind him… ditto Jindal, and a number of other freshmen/sophomore politicians) and, most importantly, he is relatively smooth and even tempered. Yes he isn’t red meat to the base. So? The guy at the top isn’t red meat to the base, either.

For all the criticism of TPaw being a ‘vanilla’ candidate, it must be pointed out that vanilla is the most popular flavor of ice cream and calling someone ‘vanilla’ for having a smooth and easy to adjust to candor isn’t much of a hit. Put a firebrand in with Romney and you start to give the MFM a way to put an equivalence in between the Obama and Romney campaigns and say ‘see they aren’t that different’. Really, what is the most stark and greatest contrast between campaigns? Putting another Governor into the VP slot shows that Romney understands the importance of the position, and putting one in who has had some testing nationally means he wants someone who won’t be divisive in case anything happens to him.

The upsides of personality, smoothness, blandness, and not detracting from the campaign and backing it against their opponent, while being a nice, civil couple of guys puts them into a very, very good light against the slurs from Team Obama.

Besides, if you have to expend a politician, wouldn’t you rather have a going-nowhere guy in the VP slot? You don’t mortgage a future star off for the VP slot and you put someone in who isn’t going anywhere into a final, career ending position if nothing happens to Romney as President. Give the 2010 class 4 more years and you may not even recognize what the political landscape looks like… and if you keep voting for ethical, small government candidates, then neither will Romney although he will be forced to move to the right because of it.

Put in a nice old guard Republican as VP. Give him a swell send-off with a nice parting gift at the end of his career. And undercut the Republican Establishment and remove them from offices across the Nation over the next four years and then you will get a real fireworks display… and for that you want a group of seasoned small government types not on the party train wreck but being the ones derailing the old guard. You can’t do that from the VP slot but you can from a Governorship or Senate seat.

ajacksonian on August 3, 2012 at 8:03 AM

No way. Minnesota has shamed/soiled itself. Al Franken, Jesse Ventura. They don’t deserve to be taken seriously and neither does the weak Tim Pawlenty. Bobby Jindal is the best pick.

Darvin Dowdy on August 3, 2012 at 8:46 AM

Anyone who says Pawlenty is boring has never heard him speak extemporaneously. The man has command of the issues and can be VERY persuasive. He won easily in Minnesota in bad years for the GOP. He would make a great VP candidate.

LakeLevel on August 3, 2012 at 8:50 AM

You Hotair fools are dumb. I saw Pawlenty on the stump in NH, I spent time with him. Guess what, it’s a myth that’s not a good speaker. A huge myth. You people here claim to abhor the media, but you buy their crap left and right. Sorry, Pawlenty is not the vanilla loser you claim him to be. He also won a blue state as a legit R.

SuperBunny on August 2, 2012 at 9:58 PM

SuperBunny not completely disagreeing with you, Pawlenty is a good speaker. He did win Minnesota right after the Ventura Governor administration. He won a four way race with Jesse’s Independence party (sort of Center Left) The DFL (Left) and the Green Party (far Left). On most issues The Ind. DFL and Greens were exactly the same.

The Indys and Greens have basically dropped out since the last election Pawlenty won. Republicans have lost every Statewide race since. Two of those races were questionable but in the end the DFL won.

Pawlenty was probably the most Conservative Governor Minnesota has had in my lifetime but, he has had his share of unforced liberal errors as far as I am concerned.

jpmn on August 3, 2012 at 10:50 AM

Pawlenty is boring, but not as boring as Portman. I like Rubio the best, but if Portman brings Ohio with him, that’s good enough for me.

All of those mentioned are well qualified and would make good VPs in office, so the question is, which would make the biggest contribution to the campaign. I think Rubio is a dynamite campaigner but, if Romney really wants boring, Pawlenty would be the best choice. Rubio is not boring.

JayDick on August 3, 2012 at 11:14 AM

I am starting to dread the VP pick. From reading the comments here, no matter who Mitt picks will get bashed by our own side in one way or another. And that is before the Democrats even take their shots.

For the record, I like Ryan. But if he picks someone else…I’m still voting Romney. (The only one I would really have a problem with is Portman for the ties to the Bush Admin).

jjjdad on August 3, 2012 at 11:15 AM

Roger Huntsman for the Win!

trs on August 3, 2012 at 12:06 PM

I want Rubio, but I think it’s Thune. He could be thoroughly vetted without the media knowing it, through inside connections to the search team, and may be well known to someone close to the team. No one is running behind him asking him if he wants to be VP, because he did not run for president. He is not boring, he is dynamic. He is good looking. Pawlenty is rather dull to us here, although I don’t know how he plays in the swing states.

Fleuries on August 3, 2012 at 2:01 PM

Yes Virginia, there is such a thing as personal magnetism and charisma.

The US? This is the cosmos of the celebrity. I think the main thing that kept Sen McCain alive was former Governor Sarah Palin.

His attractive persona is keeping our POTUS alive. He remains loved with the media’s unflagging effort.

I mentioned media people earlier as they seem to get a break, like sharks giving professional courtesy, from the other media and pop culture. Of course, given what happened to Jon Lovitz, all bets may be off here.

People Magazine greatly outsells both National Review and Salon.

Mitt needs the ingredient that sold JFK and sells soap to this day.

The problem is that Paul Ryan doesn’t have it and Van Jones does.

IlikedAUH2O on August 3, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Pawlenty would be good for one thing – getting Obama reelected. When I look at Tim Pawlenty, I see weakness. His face irritates me, and I think back to how soft and weak he looked against Michelle Bachmann in debates. Pass all day.

Rubio makes the most sense, even though it means losing a Senate seat.

Freeloader on August 7, 2012 at 12:31 PM

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