Olympics scandal: playing to lose in … badminton

posted at 3:16 pm on August 1, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

One can understand the pressure to throw games in the Olympics, right?  I mean, all that heavy money coming down in Vegas and Atlantic City could mean that someone can make a killing on … badminton?

Eight female badminton doubles players were disqualified Wednesday from the London Olympics after trying to lose matches to receive a more favorable place in the tournament.

The Badminton World Federation announced its ruling after investigating two teams from South Korea and one each from China and Indonesia. It punished them for “not using one’s best efforts to win a match” and “conducting oneself in a manner that is clearly abusive or detrimental to the sport” in matches Tuesday night. …

The competition was to continue later Wednesday. It was unclear if four eliminated teams would be placed into the quarterfinals or if the competition would restart at the semifinal stage.

Wow!  Who knew that badminton was such a cutthroat sport?  Next we’ll hear that synchronized swim teams routinely kick out of step in the early rounds to stoke viewer interest.  In both cases, viewer interest could hardly be hurt.

Actually, that’s not entirely true in this shuttlecock scandal.  The Olympics changed format in the tournament from an elimination structure to a round-robin before the semi-finals.  That change prompted teams to start strategically losing in order to gain more favorable matchups, a problem that actually predated this Olympiad in the sport.  This led to an inevitable scenario in which both teams on the court started playing to lose.  The crowd, which apparently expected an exciting match, started booing loudly.  That finally caught the attention of officials in the sport’s governing body, which suspended the four teams that couldn’t do a better job of hiding their Chip & Dale “no, after you” strategy.  Their first clue: the spectators were actually awake enough to boo.

Is this really “cheating,” though, as it’s customarily understood?  The Olympics provided a set of incentives with its round-robin formula to which teams responded naturally.  If they want participants to play to win at all times, then perhaps they should craft the tournament structure so that it doesn’t reward losses by superior teams, which is exactly what this tournament did. If they do that, well, viewer interest in badminton may eventually surpass that of … rhythmic gymnastics.

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China…puttin’ the bad—-in badminton.

/scandalous

ted c on August 1, 2012 at 3:19 PM

If they do that, well, viewer interest in badminton may eventually surpass that of … rhythmic gymnastics.

did you use shuttlecock and rhythmic gymnastics in one post????

/bad(minton)

ted c on August 1, 2012 at 3:20 PM

The Badminton World Federation announced its ruling after investigating two teams from South Korea and one each from China and Indonesia. It punished them for “not using one’s best efforts to win a match

“Let’s be more like China!”

/Elizabeth “Chief S*itting Bull” Warren

crazy_legs on August 1, 2012 at 3:22 PM

Interesting. It was to their advantage to not do their best. They improved their standing through failure.

The Leftists must have written the Olympic badminton rules.

kbTexan on August 1, 2012 at 3:22 PM

…it was Bushes fault!

KOOLAID2 on August 1, 2012 at 3:23 PM

Only once in a blue moon have I ever played badminton, but whenever I played it I have always enjoyed it a real lot. What a wimp sport.

anotherJoe on August 1, 2012 at 3:24 PM

If the rules result that it is more likely to get a gold by strategic positioning in the first round, then shouldn’t they really punish the teams that ignore those rules and run up the score in their first game?

pedestrian on August 1, 2012 at 3:24 PM

Uh, everybody knows that, uh, America wins by, uh, losing. Uh, ain’t I, uh, proof? And, uh, ya know, uh, it’s like I, uh, said. Uh, we’re going to, uh, lead from, uh, behind.

I, uh, commend the, uh, badminton, uh, players for, uh, understanding me, and, uh, the way that I, uh, think.

- Barack Obamuh

OhEssYouCowboys on August 1, 2012 at 3:24 PM

It happened in women’s soccer too. The coach of the Japanese women’s team (also the current world champions) openly told the press he had them play for a tie against South Africa in order to avoid coming out of group and having to go play in Scotland against the top teams from the other groups. It was obvious during the game as well, with only 4 of their usual starters opening the game, and numerous misses on wide open opportunities.

JeremiahJohnson on August 1, 2012 at 3:25 PM

I personally have to say I agree with the decision of the officials in this case. While it may not be expressly stated as a rule in the Olympics, I have always pictured it as a place and time where athletes go to do their BEST and show what they can do for their countries. Not try to jockey the standings so that their own teams advance when they shouldn’t have otherwise. Even if the system was changed so that it COULD be geared this way, it’s bad sportsmanlike conduct, and shouldn’t be rewarded, again in my opinion.

Highlar on August 1, 2012 at 3:25 PM

tee hee

shuttlecock scandle

Slade73 on August 1, 2012 at 3:25 PM

I’m shocked! … that there’s an ‘n’ prior to the ‘t’ in “badminton.”

Weight of Glory on August 1, 2012 at 3:27 PM

Oh, and for those that want to make fun of badminton or table tennis and such at the Olympics, you should watch it once in a while. :P Some of the hits these sportsman make are pretty incredibly fast for hitting at a floating rubber ball. :)

Highlar on August 1, 2012 at 3:28 PM

badminton is like football in China.

Oil Can on August 1, 2012 at 3:29 PM

Not try to jockey the standings so that their own teams advance when they shouldn’t have otherwise. Even if the system was changed so that it COULD be geared this way, it’s bad sportsmanlike conduct, and shouldn’t be rewarded, again in my opinion.

Highlar on August 1, 2012 at 3:25 PM

Then why don’t they penalize bicyclists for drafting?

pedestrian on August 1, 2012 at 3:29 PM

Actually, in Southeast Asia, it is a cutthroat sport. Their version of tennis. Bad format does not excuse playing to lose.

rbj on August 1, 2012 at 3:29 PM

As long as the ultimate goal is to win the highest medal possible, I don’t see a big problem. A commentator during a US men’s basketball game commented (on national television) that the USA team has a disadvantage because they are expected to win every game even if it’s not in their best interest – meaning other teams have the luxury of losing games for better elimination round match-ups.

michaelthomas on August 1, 2012 at 3:29 PM

I personally have to say I agree with the decision of the officials in this case. While it may not be expressly stated as a rule in the Olympics, I have always pictured it as a place and time where athletes go to do their BEST and show what they can do for their countries.

Highlar on August 1, 2012 at 3:25 PM

They are trying to do their best by winning, which means they have to try to lose to gain a better matchup.

sharrukin on August 1, 2012 at 3:30 PM

Basically the Round Robin or group phase of any tournament, regardless of sport, is vulnerable to such strategic playing. In lower tournaments it’s just expected. They don’t play the final game in the group phase of the soccer World Cup simultaneously for nothing. Teams didn’t just throw games to manipulate who they would face in the first round of the knockout phase they would do it to help teams in the same confederation get through. The group phase is not just designed to give more revenue either, due to more games, it also it meant to insure a fluke bad performance by higher rated teams does not mean they are gone early.

Every game should be a knockout game, in every tournament.

Rocks on August 1, 2012 at 3:30 PM

The Badminton World Federation announced its ruling after investigating two teams from South Korea and one each from China and Indonesia. It punished them for “not using one’s best efforts to win a match

I had to stop reading there…… “Hey honey, I’m just going to grab my briefcase, hop in the station wagon and head on down to my office at work in the Badminton World Federation!”

Then, ol’ skippy wonders why his kids get beat up at school when they tell others what daddy does at work.

ted c on August 1, 2012 at 3:30 PM

Is this really “cheating,” though, as it’s customarily understood?

Ummmm, yeah, throwing a game is cheating, always has been.

You are using your American values…In China, you win or you really lose, lose your home, lose your pay, lose your prestige, you just become one of the billions of workers.
In China, these sports are played for keeps, not just a medal, but national honor, as well as family honor.

Most of these athletes have no home life, only a state controlled athletic life, most taken from their home when they are children, and fed, nourished, by the state to do one thing, bring home the gold at whatever cost.

right2bright on August 1, 2012 at 3:30 PM

Loosing the battle, but winning the war is an ancient Chinese way. Sun Tzu quote maybe.

meci on August 1, 2012 at 3:31 PM

Is this really “cheating,” though, as it’s customarily understood?

1. to defraud; swindle: He cheated her out of her inheritance.
2. to deceive; influence by fraud: He cheated us into believing him a hero.
3. to elude; deprive of something expected: He cheated the law by suicide.

Ummm…yeah.

catmman on August 1, 2012 at 3:32 PM

Loosing the battle, but winning the war is an ancient Chinese way. Sun Tzu quote maybe.

meci on August 1, 2012 at 3:31 PM

Hey, that’s what the VC did in Vietnam.

sharrukin on August 1, 2012 at 3:33 PM

Then why don’t they penalize bicyclists for drafting?

pedestrian on August 1, 2012 at 3:29 PM

Not only that why don’t they penalize them for putting people in just so the #1 from that country has team mates to draft off of?

Rocks on August 1, 2012 at 3:34 PM

Is this really “cheating,” though, as it’s customarily understood? The Olympics provided a set of incentives with its round-robin formula to which teams responded naturally. If they want participants to play to win at all times, then perhaps they should craft the tournament structure so that it doesn’t reward losses by superior teams, which is exactly what this tournament did. If they do that, well, viewer interest in badminton may eventually surpass that of … rhythmic gymnastics.

Perverse incentives? Sounds like they’ve been taking lessons from the U.S. government.

Bitter Clinger on August 1, 2012 at 3:34 PM

If they do that, well, viewer interest in badminton may eventually surpass that of … rhythmic gymnastics.

I’m saddened by your lack of appreciation for the nobility, history, and athletic challenge the great sport of badminton embodies.

Axe on August 1, 2012 at 3:34 PM

Its OutRageous OutRagey,oh the nerve!!!!!

canopfor on August 1, 2012 at 3:35 PM

Then why don’t they penalize bicyclists for drafting?

pedestrian on August 1, 2012 at 3:29 PM

They do.

They changed the rules a few years ago. You can only stay behind another rider for a set time (no more than x amount of seconds (not sure the exact time) before you have to move out of that position and either fall back or take the lead.

You’ll incur a time penalty otherwise.

catmman on August 1, 2012 at 3:35 PM

While it may not be expressly stated as a rule in the Olympics, I have always pictured it as a place and time where athletes go to do their BEST and show what they can do for their countries.

Highlar on August 1, 2012 at 3:25 PM

It is a rule…I read the rule somewhere this morning, the the Olympic athlete is required to compete at their highest level.

right2bright on August 1, 2012 at 3:35 PM

Drafting in bicycling or any other kind of race is not “playing to lose”. It is a move taking advantage of the lesser wind resistance behind a racer ahead in order to conserve your own energy. Playing to lose, however, is the same as taking a dive in boxing, and I cannot agree with anyone who thinks it should be the right way to go about it. From what I understand of reading the original article, the Chinese team started it by playing to lose in order to not face their fellow Chinese team before a further round. I just don’t think that’s right, as a moral thing, I guess. If you happen to face your own nation’s other teams, that’s just the way it falls out. But, like I said before, that’s just my opinion. :)

Highlar on August 1, 2012 at 3:36 PM

Shock….and No Awe!!!

(snark).

canopfor on August 1, 2012 at 3:36 PM

WOW!!!

So if you remove the incentive to work hard and win then people won’t work hard or win?

Who knew.

Can this newfound knowledge be applied to the welfare state?

Gunlock Bill on August 1, 2012 at 3:37 PM

The Olympics are corrupt? Who knew?

NickDeringer on August 1, 2012 at 3:38 PM

Will everyone who participates get a trophy..?

d1carter on August 1, 2012 at 3:38 PM

@catmman:

Interesting…I didn’t know that about drafting in bicycling. But if its a rule, then yes, they should obey it. It sounds like they can still draft off another player, but only for a very limited amount of time. On the other hand, that limited amount of time could still make a world of difference to overtired muscles from a grueling bike ride.

Highlar on August 1, 2012 at 3:39 PM

Seems silly to have badminton as an Olympic “sport” in the first place. Why not bowling and tiddlywinks too?

AZCoyote on August 1, 2012 at 3:41 PM

They weren’t playing to lose. They were playing for position in an asinine competitive setup. It’s offensive for them to be penalized for playing in a way that they thought best to get a medal.

badminton has no business as an Olympic sport, anyway. It’s a joke, so far as anyone in the world caring about it.

The Marxist Olympics needs to be put to sleep. It’s offensive and stupid. Typical Eurotrash cr@p.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on August 1, 2012 at 3:41 PM

Highlar on August 1, 2012 at 3:39 PM

Yeah, I hear ya.

Just re-read drafting rules. The time frame is 15 seconds, for triathalon rules, but I think the major cycling tourneys are pretty much the same.

catmman on August 1, 2012 at 3:42 PM

It is a rule…I read the rule somewhere this morning, the the Olympic athlete is required to compete at their highest level.

right2bright on August 1, 2012 at 3:35 PM

I’m not sure of this, but don’t Olympic athletes take an oath in which they promise this?

Bitter Clinger on August 1, 2012 at 3:42 PM

Not only that why don’t they penalize them for putting people in just so the #1 from that country has team mates to draft off of?

Rocks on August 1, 2012 at 3:34 PM

Now, that is cheating. But, it can’t be stopped in any reasonable way. Frankly, running should all be in individual lanes so that drafting is never an issue. We just want to know who is actually the fastest, not who is pretty fast and knows the slimiest way to leech off of the others.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on August 1, 2012 at 3:44 PM

Why not bowling and tiddlywinks too?

AZCoyote on August 1, 2012 at 3:41 PM

Well, its in the Special Olympics.

Remember this?

catmman on August 1, 2012 at 3:44 PM

Broke-ass link, Ed.

MadisonConservative on August 1, 2012 at 3:46 PM

Is this really “cheating,” though, as it’s customarily understood?

Cheating as it’s customarily understood is called fair play in China. These are not righteous people.

Buttercup on August 1, 2012 at 3:47 PM

gymnastics.

I’m saddened by your lack of appreciation for the nobility, history, and athletic challenge the great sport of badminton embodies.

Axe on August 1, 2012 at 3:34 PM

Axe:

Speaking of Gymnastics,I salute the USA Womens Team,awesome!

And this vault was perfect,yet she had a small deduction,heres the Slo-Mo Video!:)
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Photo: US women’s gymnastics team with gold medals – @NBCNews
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canopfor on August 1, 2012 at 3:47 PM

Lorien would ‘hit’ it…

/

Seven Percent Solution on August 1, 2012 at 3:49 PM

OT: My wife just came back from our 2nd visit to Chick-fil-a and it took over 40 mins to get her order. Hundreds and hundreds of people, and it’s been like that all day.

Weight of Glory on August 1, 2012 at 3:50 PM

Broke-ass link, Ed.

MadisonConservative on August 1, 2012 at 3:46 PM

MadisonConservative:You mean,this!:)

You are not allowed to edit this item.
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canopfor on August 1, 2012 at 3:51 PM

Gotta keep it alive… Shuttlecock!

ahlaphus on August 1, 2012 at 3:51 PM

A commentator during a US men’s basketball game commented (on national television) that the USA team has a disadvantage because they are expected to win every game

michaelthomas on August 1, 2012 at 3:29 PM

Someone should tell this Commie that we EXPECT every USA team or individual to win EVERY competition.

Gold or stay home!

LoganSix on August 1, 2012 at 3:52 PM

How many licks does to take to get to the center of a shuttlecock? Depends on the size of the shuttlecock!

ahlaphus on August 1, 2012 at 3:52 PM

To curl or not to curl??

koaiko on August 1, 2012 at 3:53 PM

OT: My wife just came back from our 2nd visit to Chick-fil-a and it took over 40 mins to get her order. Hundreds and hundreds of people, and it’s been like that all day.

Weight of Glory on August 1, 2012 at 3:50 PM

Weight of Glory:MeanWhile:)
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Fans, protesters, PETA converge on Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day
August 1, 2012, 8:49 a.m.
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The culture war over a chicken sandwich comes to a head today, as supporters and opponents of gay marriage battle out their differences at Chick-fil-A counters and parking lots across the country.(More..)
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canopfor on August 1, 2012 at 3:53 PM

I’m not sure of this, but don’t Olympic athletes take an oath in which they promise this?

Bitter Clinger on August 1, 2012 at 3:42 PM

Thanks, that is exactly what it was, a quote from the Olympic oath.

right2bright on August 1, 2012 at 3:54 PM

canopfor on August 1, 2012 at 3:53 PM

Amazing times we live in.

Weight of Glory on August 1, 2012 at 3:55 PM

Someone should tell this Commie that we EXPECT every USA team or individual to win EVERY competition.

Gold or stay home!

LoganSix on August 1, 2012 at 3:52 PM

LoganSix:BRACE YOURSELF!!!!!!!!
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Expect significant ‘medal inequality’ at the 2012 London Olympics. Should there be ‘medal redistribution’?
July 28, 2012, 9:36 am
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http://www.aei-ideas.org/2012/07/expect-significant-medal-inequality-at-the-2012-london-olympics-should-there-be-medal-redistribution/

canopfor on August 1, 2012 at 3:58 PM

In this situation it’s cheating to win by playing to lose.

stukinIL4now on August 1, 2012 at 3:59 PM

Seems silly to have badminton as an Olympic “sport” in the first place. Why not bowling and tiddlywinks too?

AZCoyote on August 1, 2012 at 3:41 PM

Hey there, take it easy! I played competitive badminton in high school and college, and it is a very faced paced game that does take strength and skill to master.

One girl on our team actually won a badminton scholarship to UC Davis.

We’re not talking your Dad’s backyard BBQ badminton here…

ccrosby on August 1, 2012 at 4:00 PM

canopfor on August 1, 2012 at 3:53 PM

Amazing times we live in.

Weight of Glory on August 1, 2012 at 3:55 PM

Wight of Glory:

You got that right,and the LeftTards/ProgTards
are have a POLITICAL RIOT with this!!

And attacking a business,in this current Economy
Climate,is Pure Crazy BatSh*t sumpin sumpun!!:)

canopfor on August 1, 2012 at 4:01 PM

wacky Asians

WhatSlushfund on August 1, 2012 at 4:02 PM

Seems silly to have badminton as an Olympic “sport” in the first place. Why not bowling and tiddlywinks too?

AZCoyote on August 1, 2012 at 3:41 PM

Than eliminate water polo, handball, rowing, tennis, yeah, anything you haven’t probably participated in, take it out…the difference between you playing badminton, and them playing, is probably the same as you playing tennis and the Olympian’s playing tennis.

right2bright on August 1, 2012 at 4:02 PM

Baby did a bad bad… minton.

profitsbeard on August 1, 2012 at 4:02 PM

Seems silly to have badminton as an Olympic “sport” in the first place. Why not bowling and tiddlywinks too?

AZCoyote on August 1, 2012 at 3:41 PM

I’ve played badmitton and it is fun as hell. I suspect it was spread around the world (India, China) by British imperialism. So it’s more relevant than most olympic events because it has an international following and long history.

michaelthomas on August 1, 2012 at 4:03 PM

We’re not talking your Dad’s backyard BBQ badminton here…

ccrosby on August 1, 2012 at 4:00 PM

The fastest racket sport played…not your Dad’s backyard, but the pro level.

But imagine the shock to find out that China has cheated…China is the new East Germany, only better managed and they have a billion kids to draw from.

right2bright on August 1, 2012 at 4:04 PM

Well, they don’t call it goodminton…

kjl291 on August 1, 2012 at 4:05 PM

Ugh,strike one,thats Weight,not(Wight),sorry Glory:)

canopfor on August 1, 2012 at 4:07 PM

Well, they don’t call it goodminton…

kjl291 on August 1, 2012 at 4:05 PM

Ha, good one…

right2bright on August 1, 2012 at 4:12 PM

Well, since the Olympics is really only about Track and Field, and maybe weightlifting and wrestling, this just doesn’t matter.

oldroy on August 1, 2012 at 4:14 PM

Oh, forgot gymnastics. These are the real sports of the Olympics. Forget the rest.

oldroy on August 1, 2012 at 4:20 PM

Oh, forgot gymnastics. These are the real sports of the Olympics. Forget the rest.

oldroy on August 1, 2012 at 4:20 PM

Yep.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on August 1, 2012 at 4:21 PM

oldroy on August 1, 2012 at 4:14 PM

and boxing.

Buttercup on August 1, 2012 at 4:22 PM

I sense more than a bit of mockery about badminton in this post, as a sort of lightweight goofy girly boring sport.

You couldn’t be more wrong.

As someone who used to play badminton at a fairly high level, let me tell you: Badminton is brutal, difficult, competitive as hell and incredibly fast:

The fastest recorded tennis stroke is Ivo Karlovic’s 156 mph (251 km/h) serve, whereas the fastest badminton stroke during gameplay was Fu Haifeng’s 206 mph (332 km/h) recorded smash.

It is easily the most physically demanding and quickest racket sport. It’s also more of a “thinking” sport than tennis and the rest, because misdirection, trickery and deception/juking come into play constantly, and are much more effective than in other racket sports.

Oddly, badminton’s speed often hinders its popularity as a spectator sport: often the birdie is going so fast, it cannot even be seen by most observers. (Seriously.)

If anyone athletic thinks badminton is for pansies, try playing a game against a good player; within five minutes you’ll be covered in sweat, aching, and down 15-0.

It’s really only popular in a very few countries: China, Indonesia, Thailand, Korea, Great Britain, Netherlands, and a couple others. Aside from those places, it’s sadly not taken very seriously.

As for the “Cheating” — yes, they should be disqualifed. But actually it’s the fault of the Chinese coaches and politicians, who wanted China to win Gold AND Silver. They were trying to manipulate the pairing system so that the two Chinese teams would not meet until the final; if they had won the game, they would have met earlier, in the quarters- or semis-, which would lead to one of them being disqualified early. Personally, I think the whole Chinese squad should be disqualified.

Zombie on August 1, 2012 at 4:23 PM

Buttercup on August 1, 2012 at 4:22 PM

And swimming and diving.

That’s about it. But even with those traditional sports, now they have that ridiculous “synchronized diving” and “rhythmic gymnastics” – for which they’ve now changed the name of regular gymnastics to “artistic gymnastics”.

It’s all cr@p, now. Not even a true world championship in any of these, since there are limits on individual participation based on nationality. Best to just kill the Olympics. It’s a joke and a waste.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on August 1, 2012 at 4:25 PM

Buttercup on August 1, 2012 at 4:22 PM

OK. I’ll grudgingly accept boxing, the sweet science.

oldroy on August 1, 2012 at 4:26 PM

Zombie on August 1, 2012 at 4:23 PM

There are lots of sports that take tons of skill and are serious games … but they have no business in anything like what the Olympics is supposed to be. The two I mentioned above are serious endeavors but have no business in the Olympics. The trampoline is serious stuff (and kind of fun to watch) but it’s not a sport for this sort of venue (at least for what this venue purports to be).

Badminton is fun and serious but it isn’t a sport that too many care to see and no one cares who wins or loses. It’s a sport for the Asian Games, but that’s about it.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on August 1, 2012 at 4:28 PM

And swimming and diving.

The ancient Greeks would disagree. The modern Greeks would accept it as long as you could retire from the sport early with a full pension.

oldroy on August 1, 2012 at 4:28 PM

oldroy on August 1, 2012 at 4:28 PM

Heh.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on August 1, 2012 at 4:29 PM

Update: Link fixed … but it’s interesting that it took 40+ comments before anyone noticed that it was broken.

I don’t come here for the stories. I come here for the comments! Ü

SailorMark on August 1, 2012 at 4:29 PM

Glad to see some folks defending the sport. I’ve been playing competitive badminton for decades (since high school) and when you really get into it and play seriously, it’s a very fast-paced sport that keeps me young in so many ways. I still play at least once a week (mid-40s now) for a few hours each time, and I not only have a blast, but I’m plenty sore afterwards.

As others have said, we’re not talking at the backyard BBQ here…

But it is true that I am one of very few Caucasians at the court…which is also fine by me as the Asian gals who play are often quite attractive :) .

And it’s a heluva a lot better and more exciting than soccer that’s for sure…still can’t for the life of me figure out what people see in such a low scoring, kick the ball back and forth for hours affair :(.

Jon

TempestGuy on August 1, 2012 at 4:30 PM

Mitt was right
Heh

cmsinaz on August 1, 2012 at 4:31 PM

Not only that why don’t they penalize them for putting people in just so the #1 from that country has team mates to draft off of?

Rocks on August 1, 2012 at 3:34 PM

Because it’s a team sport? If you want individual racing, all the major tours have time trials, usually several. Of course, there’s always velodrome.

chewydog on August 1, 2012 at 4:36 PM

For those who doubt badminton takes an extremely high level of skill and physical excellence, watch this single point from a Chinese match.

Zombie on August 1, 2012 at 4:38 PM

Don’t care for the Olympics especially after that “tribute to socialism” opening ceremony. I watched some of the gymnastics. But seriously all this media fawning over Micheal Phelps is really wearing thin, I mean it’s swimming for creapsakes.

Raquel Pinkbullet on August 1, 2012 at 4:39 PM

There already a new cable show that’s going to feature this cheating scandal.

“Breaking Bad-minton.”

hawkdriver on August 1, 2012 at 4:43 PM

Dang …

There’s …

hawkdriver on August 1, 2012 at 4:43 PM

I think the “spread the wealth” approach on the gymnastics individual all around is just as horrible as these round robin type of tournaments in badmitton. Instead of the 24 best gymnasts in the medal rounds, we have the best 2 from 12 teams. I am not even watching this year. Why bother?

karenhasfreedom on August 1, 2012 at 4:45 PM

Zombie on August 1, 2012 at 4:38 PM

Don’t misunderstand. It’s a sport. But not all sports belong in the Olympics.

Basketball…doesn’t belong…..
Baseball…doesn’t belong…..not sure it is an Olympic sport anymore.
Soccer…OK…you want the world to watch, but is this as important as the World Cup or the professional championships? Not by a long shot.

Badminton is one of those sports, in my opinion. It absolutely takes skill and physical ability, but it doesn’t belong in the Olympics.

Field Hockey….Equestrian events….etc.

Rowing….maybe…just maybe…

Any Olympians out there in Hot Gas Nation?

oldroy on August 1, 2012 at 4:47 PM

Well, since the Olympics is really only about Track and Field, and maybe weightlifting and wrestling, this just doesn’t matter.

oldroy

The ONLY reason to tune in to the summer Olympics, is is to watch the male swimmers take off their top and drool over their magnificent bodies!!!!!!

Can’t imagine being in bed with Lockte and that body of his.
He almost makes me want to have hot monkey love again.

Typicalwhitewoman on August 1, 2012 at 4:51 PM

Just because something take’s a high skill level, is fast and is physical doesn’t make it a sport. The same could be said of juggling and nobody calls it a sport.

Just look at these ping pong points:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=DZHMioYHezg&NR=1

It’s incredible but it isn’t a sport, it’s a game.

Rocks on August 1, 2012 at 4:54 PM

hawkdriver on August 1, 2012 at 4:43 PM

Facepalm….

I think the “spread the wealth” approach on the gymnastics individual all around is just as horrible as these round robin type of tournaments in badmitton. Instead of the 24 best gymnasts in the medal rounds, we have the best 2 from 12 teams. I am not even watching this year. Why bother?

karenhasfreedom on August 1, 2012 at 4:45 PM

Do watch. Gabby Douglass and Alex Raisman are good. Maybe the two best gymnasts in the world at the moment. It’s a crime that Jordan Weiber will not have a chance to compete, but that will change. Plus the individual excercises will give Weiber a chance at redemption.

It’s an object lesson for libfreeuntilIhidemyself and inthemiddleoftheextremeleft for what happens when you re-distribute the wealth.

oldroy on August 1, 2012 at 4:56 PM

Typicalwhitewoman on August 1, 2012 at 4:51 PM

Typical. Just objectifying men. We have minds you know…

oldroy on August 1, 2012 at 4:59 PM

Oh, and IMHO absolutely no team sports belong in the Olympics regardless of what sport it is. I don’t think anything done today violates the idea and the spirit of the Original Greek games than the idea that competitors compete as a team.

Rocks on August 1, 2012 at 5:01 PM

One girl on our team actually won a badminton scholarship to UC Davis.

ccrosby on August 1, 2012 at 4:00 PM

That’s just crazy talk…

Coming next Olympics, team whack-a-mole…

chewydog on August 1, 2012 at 5:06 PM

Update: Link fixed … but it’s interesting that it took 40+ comments before anyone noticed that it was broken.
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Oops,should of E-Mailed ya,ED:)

canopfor on August 1, 2012 at 5:09 PM

The sports ruling body now has the responsibility to do something about this. Make it double elimination instead.

jake49 on August 1, 2012 at 5:43 PM

Well, since the Olympics is really only about Track and Field, and maybe weightlifting and wrestling, this just doesn’t matter.

oldroy on August 1, 2012 at 4:14 PM

Brilliant…ever hear of swimming, water polo, diving, gymnastics? How about tennis, ever hear of that sport, or basketball, vollyball…gee I guess those just slipped your minds, cycling, ever hear of that. How about soccer, bet you didn’t even know that is really a sport…

Those are all played the first two weeks, the last 10 days or so, are track and field.

right2bright on August 1, 2012 at 5:54 PM

It’s incredible but it isn’t a sport, it’s a game.

Rocks on August 1, 2012 at 4:54 PM

It’s a sport because it has world participation, it’s has an organized federation…basketball is a game, played by kids, tennis is a game played by kids, you didn’t know that? Sailing, rowing, why people do that on the lake all the time, it’s just a fun activity, not a “sport”.

Ever been to an Olympic event? I can see you haven’t…

right2bright on August 1, 2012 at 5:59 PM

For those who doubt badminton takes an extremely high level of skill and physical excellence, watch this single point from a Chinese match.

Zombie on August 1, 2012 at 4:38 PM

Thanks for that, brings back memories…not that I was that good, but we were CIF champs.

It’s hard to believe I was ever able to move that fast…sigh

ccrosby on August 1, 2012 at 6:05 PM

You mean its not played like an episode of Survivor?

Speakup on August 1, 2012 at 6:24 PM

It’s a sport because it has world participation, it’s has an organized federation…basketball is a game, played by kids, tennis is a game played by kids, you didn’t know that? Sailing, rowing, why people do that on the lake all the time, it’s just a fun activity, not a “sport”.

Ever been to an Olympic event? I can see you haven’t…

right2bright on August 1, 2012 at 5:59 PM

What does being to an event have to do with anything? 99.99% of the planet has never been to an Olympic event, does that mean they can’t comment on it?

Plenty of things have worldwide participation and a federation. Golf, bowling, Frisbee, even Chess.

Lots of things have been Olmpics ” sports though, including, now get this, Solo synchronised swimming. Yeah, you read that right, SOLO. Here’s some more:
http://www.ivillage.co.uk/10-weird-and-wonderful-former-olympic-sports/132197

Rocks on August 1, 2012 at 7:14 PM

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