New Warren ad: Golly, why aren’t we more like China?

posted at 11:06 am on August 1, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Suddenly, I’m getting more enthusiastic about watching the Democratic convention.  The latest ad from the DNCC’s prime-time speaker compares America unfavorably to China, demands more government spending, and its title “Rebuild” reminds voters of her original “you didn’t build that” rant to entrepreneurs.  What could go wrong?

The New York Sun can’t quite believe that someone who wants Elizabeth Warren to win would have approved this ad for distribution:

The first problem is mathematical. U.S. gross domestic product is about $15 trillion a year. Increasing infrastructure “investment” to the 9% Chinese level that Ms. Warren cites would mean an additional $1 trillion a year in government spending. That’s an immense spending increase. To put it in context, the entire federal government spent about $3.6 trillion in 2011, on revenues of about $2.3 trillion.

Where would this money come from? Not tax increases, right? Ms. Warren has already reportedly promised nearly a trillion dollar tax increase, spread over ten years, by raising the estate tax, imposing the Buffett Rule, and letting the Bush tax cuts expire for those earning $250,000 a year or more. But that money, she has said, would go toward deficit reduction. If Ms. Warren really wants to spend $1 trillion a year more on infrastructure, she’d need to eliminate all national defense spending ($705 billion) or all Social Security spending ($730 billion) and then find another more than quarter trillion dollars. Or else she’d have to go on the biggest borrowing or taxing binge in American history.

Math, though, is hardly the only problem with emulating China’s approach to infrastructure spending. History is another. America and China are at different junctures in our development. America built a lot of bridges, tunnels, and highways in the 1950s and 1960s when China was stuck under Communism. A lot of China’s spending now isn’t going to outpace America but to catch up with things that we’ve had here for decades, like potable water and a population that is mostly non-rural.

Finally, not all of China’s infrastructure spending is worth emulating. The Chinese Communist treatment of those who stand in the way of their projects makes Robert Moses, the mastermind of so many of New York’s neighborhood-destroying highways, look like Mother Teresa. For example, the group International Rivers reports that 1.2 million people were displaced to construct the Three Gorges Dam. That $40 billion project also reportedly had devastating effects on the Chinese river dolphin, river sturgeon, and paddlefish.

China is able to spend so much on infrastructure because it’s an un-free country. It lacks the rule of law that lets American community groups wage legal and political battles against big government projects. Ms. Warren may protest that when she’s talking about “infrastructure” she mainly means maintaining existing roads and bridges, not building brand new projects that flatten urban neighborhoods or destroy scenic rivers. But that’s not what’s happening in China.

And that’s not all.  One of the favorite examples of Chinese infrastructure spending among progressives like Warren is their commitment to high-speed rail.  That has turned into a $271-billion disaster for China, however.  Their trains don’t even run on time for all that money; China had to slow them down because of all the defects in the system.  Let’s ask Warren’s potential constituents how well the Big Dig project turned out, both financially and operationally.

Or, let’s not.  I for one cannot wait for Warren to go on prime-time television just before Bill Clinton formally nominates Barack Obama to tell the nation that her aim is to make America more like China.


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Okay, let’s do it.

Let’s spend at the Chinese percentage of GDP on infrastructure.

She wouldn’t mind if we get that money by cutting our entitlement spending to Chinese levels, too, would she?

And she couldn’t possibly object to our taking a Chinese approach to environmentalists and property owners who get in the way of that infrastructure development, could she?

JEM on August 1, 2012 at 12:28 PM

Squaw Mao-Spewing-Bull has buffalo droppings for brains.

I here her injun crab cakes go we with sweet-and-sour pork and mooshoo chicken.

Bubba Redneck on August 1, 2012 at 12:31 PM

She may be a moron but the moon bats in Boston will still vote for her.

David in ATL on August 1, 2012 at 12:33 PM

29Victor on August 1, 2012 at 11:58 AM

Hahaha, yes.

PatriotGal2257 on August 1, 2012 at 12:40 PM

Why not? Because we’re spending ourselves into oblivion paying people not to work. Duh.

Pablo Snooze on August 1, 2012 at 12:41 PM

This fool spews one idiocy after another.

The frightening reality is that she has broad support in Massachusetts and among Democrats.

novaculus on August 1, 2012 at 12:43 PM

Lets spend like China so we can have unpopulated cities in the desert! Real ghost towns save that no one has ever lived in them to leave ghosts around to inhabit them…. yes, lets do that. Why our agricultural policy inspired China to its own dustbowl and in no time at all I’m sure we will get another one because of the cycle of dry weather that happens on a regular basis in the south and south central US.

Lets have our workers live at our factories!

Until Vietnam undercuts their wages, of course, just like in China!

Isn’t centralized planning of an economy grand? They copied our lending habits not just for residential but commercial and industrial property as well! And they got a price boom! And people walking out on their loans! And inflation that the government is trying to hide but everyone is paying for… just like America!

How about we be a bit less like China, huh?

Because they are about to get all their lovely economic bubbles popped at the same time and what comes after won’t be pretty. We, at least, can suck it up, get rid of the useless spending and admit we made a mistake in spending so much. China? Not so much.

ajacksonian on August 1, 2012 at 12:45 PM

She’s running in a state that repeatedly elected Teddy and Kerry to the US Senate.

TimBuk3 on August 1, 2012 at 12:47 PM

Let’s see taught at Harvard, right? Check. And the Energy Seceratary is from academia too huh? Check. Wow put academia into a position of power in government and they go all facist on ya. Running the country like it was their classroom or something. “Hey I’m the professsor here, sit down and shut up, I know what’s best”

jake49 on August 1, 2012 at 12:50 PM

I support the damming of that river. It wreaked havoc everytime it flooded, which I gather was often.
I think the Chinese people’s LIVES are much better now bcs the river was dammed.

Badger40 on August 1, 2012 at 12:53 PM

At what point do they finally come out and say, “Hey America? How ’bout we try communism?”

BKeyser on August 1, 2012 at 12:55 PM

At least she’s not wearing her Mao jacket in this ad . . .

TarheelBen on August 1, 2012 at 12:55 PM

I support the damming of that river. It wreaked havoc everytime it flooded, which I gather was often.
I think the Chinese people’s LIVES are much better now bcs the river was dammed.

Badger40 on August 1, 2012 at 12:53 PM

+1. Talked with a Chinese exchange student about how it got it’s name “River of Tears” (roughly translated).

Suffice it to say there is good reason.

MelonCollie on August 1, 2012 at 12:55 PM

I cannot wait for her speech at the DNC, they can kiss the independent vote goodbye after she calls people names while trying to steal their money. tell us about all the ‘infrastructure’ you want to build, and then tell us where the money will come from…

burserker on August 1, 2012 at 12:56 PM

These women were protesting having their homes, that they lived in for 70 years, torn down for the olympics junk.

Blake on August 1, 2012 at 11:31 AM

Eminent Domain has the same effect here in America.
So does the EPA & the ESA.
The Federal Govt uses those things to steal the land Americans own.
Let us also not forget property taxes. The state strong arms you into paying taxes & if you can’t, they steal your property.
You’re renting you’re damned property.
You don’t truly own it.
So while China may have its issues, I find the stink of the Federal Govt’s communist agenda quite disturbing.

Badger40 on August 1, 2012 at 12:58 PM

Let’s spend at the Chinese percentage of GDP on infrastructure.

She wouldn’t mind if we get that money by cutting our entitlement spending to Chinese levels, too, would she?

JEM on August 1, 2012 at 12:28 PM

There’s a parallel argument to this across the other ocean as well.

There’s so much talk about how awesome our health care would be if the gov’t dumped as much into the welfare state as Europe. Yeah, but Europe spends next to nothing on defense because we have so many bases over there. So let’s gut our military to those levels – particularly by closing overseas bases – dump that money into our entitlement programs, and then watch how well Europe fares when they have to pay for their own frakkin’ defense.

The Schaef on August 1, 2012 at 12:58 PM

At least high speed rail makes more sense in China, where populations tend to be clustered into cities with little in between. It makes no sense here, where we’re all spread out in suburbs.

The Rogue Tomato on August 1, 2012 at 11:50 AM

Whether high-speed rail “makes sense” (could be profitable) or not depends mostly on the terrain in between cities. High-speed rail needs special tracks with only very gradual curves and slopes, so that trains don’t overturn if they round a curve too fast. The tracks also need to have no grade crossings, and be fenced in to avoid collisions with livestock and wildlife.

This can be feasible in relatively flat, sparsely-populated areas, but becomes prohibitively expensive either in congested areas or hilly or mountainous terrain. Unfortunately, people tend to prefer building cities or farms in flat terrain, so that flat terrain is rarely sparesely populated.

This is why a high-speed rail line may be economically feasible between (for example) Chicago and Saint Louis, or Dallas and Houston, while it would be unfeasible between New York and Washington (too congested) or San Francisco and Los Angeles (intervening terrain too mountainous).

Most of inland China is very mountainous, so that high-speed trains would only be economically feasible near the coast, which may be very congested, given that China’s population is quadruple that of the United States. If a transportation system is supposed to make money, Americans might find it cheaper to fly over mountains than dig rail tunnels through them. If money is no object, as in China, the Government might spend 9% of its resources on trains nobody wants to ride.

Steve Z on August 1, 2012 at 12:58 PM

Suffice it to say there is good reason.

MelonCollie on August 1, 2012 at 12:55 PM

I know there were a lot of ancient sites inundated.
But I find quality of humans lives & their lives in general, to be more valuable than preserving dolphins, sturgeons etc habitat & ancient monuments.

Badger40 on August 1, 2012 at 12:59 PM

Here is why, you dummy woman!

Distrustful of government and riven by differences, metro Atlanta voters on Tuesday rejected a $7.2 billion transportation plan that business leaders have called an essential bulwark against regional decline.

The defeat of the 10-year, 1 percent sales tax leaves the Atlanta region’s traffic congestion problem with no visible remedy. It marks failure not only for the tax but for the first attempt ever to unify the 10-county region’s disparate voters behind a plan of action.

“Let this send a message,” said Debbie Dooley, a tea party leader who early on organized opposition to the T-SPLOST tax measure. “We the people, you have to earn our trust before asking for more money.”

Go TEA (taxed enough already) Party!

Go Georgia!

Go Bmore!

Go America!

To Hell with China!!!

To Hell with Elizabeth Warren and Obama!!!

Schadenfreude on August 1, 2012 at 1:01 PM

Compared to China and sadly also to the EU countries, the people in the USA are still asked to vote, for now.

Schadenfreude on August 1, 2012 at 1:02 PM

Given many things I’ve learned about China, at least there’s no pretense about what they are.
In some ways, they are much freer than we are.
I’d say it’s a wash btwn the 2 countries.
Look at the Waco massacre under Clinton.
Ruby ridge?
How many times has the Federal Govt terrorized its citizens?

The Chinese may be commie in name, but we act out commie a lot more than they do. We just do it softly.

Badger40 on August 1, 2012 at 1:02 PM

Parliaments in Europe shove down the throats of people all sorts of tyranny.

Schadenfreude on August 1, 2012 at 1:03 PM

EVERY SINGLE PROBLEM AMERICA FACES IS
ROLLED INTO THIS HUMAN PARASITE.

Oh, and she’s ugly as hell to boot.

ToddPA on August 1, 2012 at 1:03 PM

Move to China, you witch/b*tch.

Schadenfreude on August 1, 2012 at 1:04 PM

She’s OWS — with dyed hair. She speaks for you, MA? Elections do have consequences.

RobertMN on August 1, 2012 at 1:10 PM

The funny (as in queer, not ha ha) thing about this is…

… she really believes it.

It is her ideology, her belief, her inner fiber, she was made this way…

… What ever she paid for her education, she was seriously ripped off.

Seven Percent Solution on August 1, 2012 at 1:10 PM

In the squaw’s heart………

she’s a Communist, like most Democrats in leadership.

PappyD61 on August 1, 2012 at 1:21 PM

The Ch’i of High Cheekbones

spiritof61 on August 1, 2012 at 1:28 PM

Wish she would just STFU then do a rain dance to end the drought.

Wade on August 1, 2012 at 1:31 PM

Yeah, let’s be more like China.

Comparison of China vs. US on econmic freedom.

Scrappy on August 1, 2012 at 1:35 PM

Move to China, you witch/b*tch.

Schadenfreude on August 1, 2012 at 1:04 PM

No, you can keep her and her like, thank you.

DarkCurrent on August 1, 2012 at 1:39 PM

That $40 billion project also reportedly had devastating effects on the Chinese river dolphin, river sturgeon, and paddlefish.

OMG!

EddieC on August 1, 2012 at 1:45 PM

“now you can go where the people are one/ now you can go where they get things done”
- holiday in cambodia, dead kennedys

as i seem to recall lots of “infrastructure” porky treats only went and only go to blue states and states that voted for barry dearest.

there has been 3 solid months of all white, all male union hack road work that never seems to move an inch beyond my front stoop… rebuilding america one lazy ass union caucasian democratic pet at a time. the road is always in worse shape than when they began. it’s the infrastructure infinite loop of union payoff.

ancestry dot con will probably come out next with how liz “crabcakes” warren is probably related to the very first (eventually to become indian ) asian who came across the bering strait to ancient PALEolithic north america.

yes, liz is most definitely probably related to the very first north american indian. however- the documents may have all been destroyed which does not make it untrue. definitely.

mittens on August 1, 2012 at 1:54 PM

jeez, and right before Clinton speaks. How’s he going to resolve that?

jake49 on August 1, 2012 at 11:15 AM

..that’s THEIR problem. Just chill the beer, nuke the popcorn, sit back, and watch it all slide into the Atlantic Ocean.

The War Planner on August 1, 2012 at 1:54 PM

Warren’s an idiot. Chinese solutions aren’t any more practical in America than American solutions are in China.

That said.

Is Ms. Warren aware that China’s economy is based on slave labor. Perhaps what she is saying is she’d like to see an economy more closely resembling the pre-Civil War South?

teacherman on August 1, 2012 at 11:16 AM

This couple who privately own 3 stores on my block laugh at you.

DarkCurrent on August 1, 2012 at 1:55 PM

Warren’s Cherokee name is Walking Eagle.They gave her that name because it represents a bird that is too full of chit too fly. These idiots are doubling down on talking points that have already been soundly rejected. Maybe they should have held their convention in Jonestown.

Southernblogger on August 1, 2012 at 1:59 PM

How.

Buttercup on August 1, 2012 at 2:01 PM

Abused child labor

FOrced abortions

No environmrntal laws

Pollution out the arse

Starvation

Uneducated masses

Yep, a liberals dream. I thought it was conservatives who supported these facets of society.

zdpl0a on August 1, 2012 at 2:01 PM

Seriously, is she TRYING to lose.

Can’t wait to see Brown’s counter-ad on this !!!

stenwin77 on August 1, 2012 at 2:10 PM

Or, let’s not. I for one cannot wait for Warren to go on prime-time television just before Bill Clinton formally nominates Barack Obama to tell the nation that her aim is to make America more like China.

Yep. Stock up on popcorn early.

kim roy on August 1, 2012 at 2:14 PM

Geez, those are some high cheekbones.

curved space on August 1, 2012 at 2:23 PM

zdpl0a on August 1, 2012 at 2:01 PM

Everyone hates Pol Pot and the Khymer Rouge. Everyone loves Mao and the Chinese Communists.

People with direct knowledge of either would give their all to live in Lubbock, Texas, anyday.

Now if we could just consolidate Massachusetts into Texas we would not need reeducation camps.

Guaranteed that many of the Massachusetts’ goofiest would learn a lot.

IlikedAUH2O on August 1, 2012 at 2:35 PM

Hey! Let’s be more like China,

88 year old woman makes living as trash collector, adopts and saves THIRTY babies she found lying in garbage heaps.

The real China: piles of garbage with old women picking through them and discarded children littering the streets. That sounds like some awesome infrastructure!

bitsy on August 1, 2012 at 2:40 PM

People with direct knowledge of either would give their all to live in Lubbock, Texas, anyday.

IlikedAUH2O on August 1, 2012 at 2:35 PM

Since Mao’s not around anymore I think I prefer Shanghai to Lubbock.

(Not to say Lubbock isn’t great…)

DarkCurrent on August 1, 2012 at 2:41 PM

Everyone hates Pol Pot and the Khymer Rouge. Everyone loves Mao and the Chinese Communists.

People with direct knowledge of either would give their all to live in Lubbock, Texas, anyday.

Now if we could just consolidate Massachusetts into Texas we would not need reeducation camps.

Guaranteed that many of the Massachusetts’ goofiest would learn a lot.

IlikedAUH2O on August 1, 2012 at 2:35 PM

It’s so true! My grandparents walked through a mine field to escape communist Czechoslovakia in the 60′s. They think Houston is next door to heaven.

bitsy on August 1, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Keep talkin Lizzie!!!
I love what Fauxcahontas says – she makes the most clueless Republican look like a frickin genius.

I have to say though, I kind of like her idea to be more like China – shoot they’re becoming more capitalist than we are under Obummer.
But maybe we should try her plan – which of course would first require total elimination of (at a minimum): EPA, NHTSA, labor unions, minimum wage, and all entitlements (everyone works comrade – no excuses).
That might not be a bad trade….
What could possibly go wrong?/

dentarthurdent on August 1, 2012 at 2:47 PM

The Chinese government breaks the heart of some women they force to have abortions. Then there’s this:

Lou Xiaoying, now 88 and suffering from kidney failure, found and raised more than 30 abandoned Chinese babies from the streets of Jinhua, in the eastern Zhejiang province where she managed to make a living by recycling rubbish….

‘In the local community she is well known and well respected for her work with the abandoned babies. She does her best. She is a local hero. But unfortunately there are far too many abandoned babies in China who have no hope of survival.

Only last week there was news of a baby lucky to be alive after having its throat cut and then put in a plastic bag and thrown in a dustbin at Anshan city, in northeast China’s Liaoning province.

The baby – a girl – was thought to be a victim of the country’s one child policy where parents restricted to only having a single child prefer boys and girls are unwanted and often discarded.

Infanticide of ‘guilt children’ is still a problem in rural areas but it is rare in cities, where children are usually abandoned but not killed.

INC on August 1, 2012 at 2:47 PM

One of the biggest obstructions to increased infrastructure construction is the environmentalists. They oppose everything, always.

Charlemagne on August 1, 2012 at 11:27 AM

2 classic examples have to do with Interstate Highway construction. Here in New Hampshire, the enivronmentalists delayed the completion of I-93 thru Franconia Notch for years, because they didn’t want to disturb the Old Man of the Mountain rock profile high above on Cannon Mountain. But he ended up falling off the mountain anyway.

And starting just a few blocks away from O’bama’s Winter White House in Hawai’i, the H-3 “Interstate” took over 40 years to build. All because of protests.

Del Dolemonte on August 1, 2012 at 2:52 PM

“Elizabeth Warren: We Need Much Higher Government Spending to Keep Up with China”
OBOZO, lahood, “lying sacaja sh^t” warren and most other lunatic-left extremists simply love Chinese communism and they clearly miss Chairman Mao (though they all keep his little red book close to their hearts). I hope each of them will have enough campaign money left after they lose the Nov. election to buy themselves a one-way ticked to that “workers’ paradise.” If needed, I’ll gladly give them a ride to the airport.

TeaPartyNation on August 1, 2012 at 3:04 PM

NASA or some agency computed that the three gorges dam lengthened a day by 0.06 microseconds and shifted the poles by a few inches. Yay!

sram on August 1, 2012 at 3:12 PM

How much affirmative action for native americans do they have in China?

Scrappy on August 1, 2012 at 3:35 PM

Wait– Is this a “gaffe”? I guess the reporters who follow her around will let us know.

MTF on August 1, 2012 at 3:43 PM

Apparently, Warren and her handlers have missed the news that China is in the midst of a bursting building bubble with hundreds of thousands of empty office buildings and homes built by government fiat, which are undoubtably part of Warren’s 9% spending on infrastructure.

China is a bubble economy on steroids facing a massive demographic deficit because the party’s one child policy has left too few young people to perform the work and that smaller generation will give birth to an even smaller generation because of the preponderance of males chosen to be the one child.

China is the poster child for the disaster which is the government directed economy that Obama and Warren worship.

Bart DePalma on August 1, 2012 at 4:25 PM

Government builds roads. Industry gives people a reason to go somewhere.

China is still industrializing much of their country and they need to the infrastructure to modernize much of their nation from the 19th century living conditions.

MJBrutus on August 1, 2012 at 5:23 PM

Yeah, let’s get started on those cities that house……

no one.

Quick! Hurry!!

98ZJUSMC on August 1, 2012 at 7:13 PM

She may be a moron but the moon bats in Boston will still vote for her.

David in ATL on August 1, 2012 at 12:33 PM

Again, the mind reels….

98ZJUSMC on August 1, 2012 at 7:15 PM

OK sweet pea, where’s the dough? Print more? Oh, forgot, tax me some more. Problem with us is by the time a spade of earth is turned, too many useless bureaucratics (like you) have stepped on the $. That plus some of the dumbest rules ever devised make public works the most costly, inefficient and corrupt enterprises possible. How about you socialist turds get out of the way?

StevC on August 1, 2012 at 7:25 PM

OR, maybe Chief ‘Burns Red in the Sun’ could just go LIVE in China, and we call it even.

Dingbat.

a5minmajor on August 1, 2012 at 7:59 PM

And don’t forget Thomas Friedman’s loving endorsement of Chinese, one-party, autocratic rule.

(I don’t post enough here for most to recognize my screen name, but the astute blogger will notice I’ve started a personal crusade against Thomas Friedman [and anyone else with an affinity for the Chinese political/economic system].)

Glenn Jericho on August 1, 2012 at 8:28 PM

What’s sad is that the state that started the American revolution could end up electing this human pile of excrement to the senate.

bgibbs1000 on August 1, 2012 at 8:49 PM

OK sweet pea, where’s the dough? Print more? Oh, forgot, tax me some more. Problem with us is by the time a spade of earth is turned, too many useless bureaucratics (like you) have stepped on the $. That plus some of the dumbest rules ever devised make public works the most costly, inefficient and corrupt enterprises possible. How about you socialist turds get out of the way?

StevC on August 1, 2012 at 7:25 PM

We will borrow from the very people she wants us to be more like.

bgibbs1000 on August 1, 2012 at 8:51 PM

I say if this sl ut loves china so much, lets crack loose enough tax payer funds for a one way ticket. The only catch is, she has to leave EVERYTHING she owns, including bank accounts and investments here, since she didn’t built that.

Wolfmoon on August 1, 2012 at 10:52 PM

Palin: Elizabeth Warren Has “Confessed To Her Marxist Views”
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/08/01/palin_elizabeth_warren_has_confessed_to_her_marxist_views.html

john.frank on August 1, 2012 at 11:07 PM

Warren as Skeletor.

Sherman1864 on August 2, 2012 at 8:22 AM

I heard she has been claiming her indian heritage and has not paid taxes in at least 10 years. I heard this from a guy named Harry. I don’t know if it is true or not.

j bo on August 2, 2012 at 11:20 AM

She is 1/32 Chinese and also a professor so she knows what she’s talking about.

She has no mental-filter and no idea how she is being perceived, similar to Pelosi. In fact, her high profile (and cheek-bones) may be part of her ascension to leadership.

virgo on August 2, 2012 at 11:45 AM

This guy should introduce her at the DNC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNZczIgVXjg

NoPain on August 4, 2012 at 10:31 AM

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