Wait, so… why exactly was Romney’s overseas trip such a “public relations disaster”?

posted at 2:41 pm on July 31, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

Hint: I don’t think it was at all, as much as certain members of the media are playing up Romney’s tour abroad like it was the most gaffe-tastic episode in the history of modern politics. Apparently, we’re to believe that Romney’s week off from domestic campaigning was a “public relations disaster,” that it “didn’t go well,” that it could “cost him” in his run for the White House, etcetera. ABC even has a handy-dandy list of the supposed flubs of Romney’s “awkward foreign tour.” Yeah, okay, if you say so:

Who Mitt made mad: Mad might be a bit strong, but the Labor party’s Ed Miliband couldn’t have been too pleased after their first meeting and brief photo op.

What Mitt said: The problem lay largely in what he didn’t say — specifically “Miliband.” Romney seemed to forget the opposition leader’s name: “Like you, Mr. Leader, I look forward to our conversations this morning.”

What they said: Miliband played it cool. The Independent newspaper just sounded confused. Their headline: “Mr. Leader? Did Mitt Romney forget Ed Miliband’s name?”

Er… yes, you’re right, all those gaffes are superbly gauche and embarrassing and speak to Romney’s inability to handle matters of foreign policy. I mean, why didn’t he just go whole-hog and moon the Queen while he was at it?

Really, though — perhaps calling London’s Olympic preparations “disconcerting” was mildly uncomfortable and could’ve been said differently, but otherwise, I’m not seeing the gaffes. As Ed recounted earlier, Romney had a great showing in Poland, and I must’ve missed the part where angering the overly-sensitive Palestinians by merely speaking the truth is supposed to be cause for alarm. Maybe I’m lacking some nuance here, but I don’t see the average American voter reading too much more into this than I am.

There is the argument that voters aren’t going to be voting this November based on foreign policy and that Romney’s time would have been better spent at home, but it is an important issue and it’s not like this was some eleventh-hour voyage — there are still 98 days to go. As Romney reinforced on Fox News this morning, all this talk about his supposed “gaffes” is just more media baloney meant to steer the masses away from the crucial issues:

“You know, I’m very pleased with what I’ve learned on this trip and the opportunities I’ve had to speak with leaders and exchanges we had. And I realize that there will be some in the fourth estate or whichever estate, who are far more interested in finding something to write about that is unrelated to the economy, to geopolitics, to the threat of war, to the reality of conflict in Afghanistan today, to a nuclearization of Iran. They’ll instead try to find—try and find anything else to divert from the fact that these last four years have been tough years for our country. They’ve been years of tumult in the world. And we need to see a better direction taken on the part of our nation.”


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No, it looks like you’re pimping a Socialist to continue his destruction of our country.

Chip on July 31, 2012 at 3:41 PM

No I’m not. Show me where I’ve ever urged anyone to vote for Obama.

As for “destroying the country”, it’s being destroyed by the squishes just as surely as by the libs/socialists/Commies/whatever personalized bogieman you want to name.

ddrintn on July 31, 2012 at 3:44 PM

If you have ANY doubt about the veracity of the statement Romney made regarding the Olympics,I suggest you go to the UK Daily Telegraph and take a look at what the Brits are dealing with in regard to that giant fiasco… AKA… the Olympic Games.

On opening day, there was a 32 mile long traffic jam. Traffic remains snarled on a daily basis.

The security company hired for the games used security personnel who can’t speak English. The military had to deploy soldiers, untrained for such duty, to try and act as security personnel.

The budget cuts, necessary to keep Britain solvent, resulted in not enough police to post at the venue, or in the streets. Attendant crime, from pick pockets swarming London from all over Europe, prostitution, gambling, and violent crimes such as assault and robbery and muggings are skyrocketing.

London is nearly deserted… by Londoners seeking to avoid the crowds of foreigners and crime.

Vast numbers of seats remain empty… to the point that out of sheer embarrassment soldiers were ordered in to fill them.

Meanwhile, the tickets of parents of competing athletes were not honored and those parents were turned away.

Corporate sponsors and embassy’s that were given tickets are selling them on the black market.

The Olympic flame can no longer be viewed by the general public… it was SNUFFED OUT and moved inside the venue.

There are missile launchers stationed on rooftops across the city and the people of London are appalled by their presence, since firing them would almost certainly result in the destruction of part of the city itself.

There’s more… much more.

If anything, Romney was being POLITE in his assessment of their preparations. His was a PROFESSIONAL opinion, rendered candidly.

thatsafactjack on July 31, 2012 at 3:45 PM

SoulGlo on July 31, 2012 at 3:17 PM

Yes, candidate Romney should have taken a page out of President Obama’s playbook and only criticized his own country.

JohnnyL on July 31, 2012 at 3:43 PM

And Bowed to everyone in sight – don’t forget that.

Chip on July 31, 2012 at 3:45 PM

Thing is for millions of people all they see or hear is “Romney made us look bad” and then they go to the voting booth (or mailbox) with that in their heads.

Gwillie on July 31, 2012 at 3:45 PM

Mrs. Rombo owns a horse that is competing at the Olympics. If that isn’t enough to make you vote for TFGRP, I don’t know what is.

Bishop on July 31, 2012 at 3:36 PM

What pushed me into Obama’s camp is that it turns out he is related to the first EVER slave in America! On his mother’s side! In 1640, the first EVER slave in America owned a 450 acre tobacco farm and married a white woman, a relation of Obama’s mother, making them the first EVER inter racial marriage in America! Maybe. But that’s good enough for me.

Night Owl on July 31, 2012 at 3:47 PM

I don’t want to question Erica Johnsen’s assumptions here but is this not the same woman who in 2008 said the same thing about John McCain’s pick for Vice President Sarah Palin? Said Erica at the time, “I’m not seeing the gaffes.”

richardporter on July 31, 2012 at 3:48 PM

ted c on July 31, 2012 at 2:47 PM

Very succinct. +1000

DDay on July 31, 2012 at 3:49 PM

No, it looks like you’re pimping a Socialist to continue his destruction of our country.

Chip on July 31, 2012 at 3:41 PM

No I’m not. Show me where I’ve ever urged anyone to vote for Obama.

ddrintn on July 31, 2012 at 3:44 PM

That is effectively what you are doing here.

Now, if that isn’t your intent, Just what exactly are you doing here?

Chip on July 31, 2012 at 3:49 PM

because they wish it to be so.

joeindc44 on July 31, 2012 at 3:44 PM

Hey, how is that twitter war going? I saw you in the #KISSMYASS thingy.

Night Owl on July 31, 2012 at 3:50 PM

I loathe the press more every day. The double standard applied to Obama and Romney is so obvious. They show so much disrespect to all Republicans in their questioning and reporting as opposed to the fawning over Obama. It is really sickening to watch how Mitt and Ann are reported on. I can’t wait to see class back in the White House, because we haven’t had any the last three and a half years. I want to be proud of my country and president again.

silvernana on July 31, 2012 at 3:35 PM

i know, it’s really disgusting, makes you wonder if they know any bounds at all….you should have seen the glee of Chris Matthews this past weekend , he had an idiot from the British tabloid media on (the really strident and obnoxious kind, which indeed is rare for British media types, who are usually more reserved) to comment on the so-called ‘PR disaster’ of his Lo don trip, and the Mitt bash fest was on…I had to turn it off 2 minutes into the ‘fest’, absolutely noxious….I think of theșe idiots in the lib media as empty human shells or vehicles channeling a twisted ideology, there’s not an iota of thoughtfulness or depth, let alone objectivity in their daily reporting or commentaries…

jimver on July 31, 2012 at 3:50 PM

There was a story at Politico about one of Romney’s aides supposedly telling an obnoxious reporter to shove it…That will upset the 20% of the American people who have a favorable opinion of the press. Everyone else will say high time.

I kind of thought it was refreshing to see a politician saying what he thought rather than just mouthing some pc platitudes…even many in the conservative media gave Romney hell for what he said in London…who the hell are these people to tell Mitt Romney how he should and should not answer a question? We complain that people in public life are too dishonest,too given to schmoozing and the like and yet look at how the media responds to a man simply saying what he thinks.

Terrye on July 31, 2012 at 3:52 PM

That is effectively what you are doing here.

Now, if that isn’t your intent, Just what exactly are you doing here?

Chip on July 31, 2012 at 3:49 PM

You can be against both socialism (OBama) AND socialism-lite (Romney).

sharrukin on July 31, 2012 at 3:52 PM

Aw, gee whiz! Romney didn’t kowtow to the opposition-party leader. Would British Prime Minister Cameron, a Tory, really want to meet Nancy Pelosi?

Steve Z on July 31, 2012 at 3:14 PM

Trust me, he would. It’s that sad over there.

jimver on July 31, 2012 at 3:35 PM

Yep. Well said. The Labour party leadership was decided between those two fools and Ed Balls – a Fabianist who proudly declares his desire to reclaim Socialism for Britain, and who now stands one bad election away from becoming Chancellor of the Exchequer. Such is the state of affairs in the UK: a choice between a drooling leftist… Cameron, that is – and the outright Marxists in the opposition. The frustrating days of wincing at Blair’s flashy and substantially weak New Labor have become a distant memory, much like the Clinton administration almost fondly remembered for some of the stupidity that has come since.

I’ll take Lech Walesa’s endorsement over any of those any day.

Gingotts on July 31, 2012 at 3:55 PM

In this time of 24/7 news and social media frenzy, perception IS reality. If enough people have said it was a PR disaster, then it IS a PR disaster. That’s just the facts of our time.

inthemiddle on July 31, 2012 at 3:22 PM

LOL… the liberal scum is exposing himself and is telling us that it OK to repeat the lie because it would be believed. Of course you are making Lenin and Gobbels very proud in the hell where they belong… However low IQ liberal piece of s*** the truth will always win and comes out specially in our country…
Anyway all these fabrications are not going to matter at all, and no one cares about them except the left wing lunatics like you. This election is about the welfare queens agitator utterly failed record and nothing else… The voters would ask on November 6th “do we want for more year of this crap” and the majority of them would say “No, hell No”…
Now go and f*** yourself.

mnjg on July 31, 2012 at 3:58 PM

That is effectively what you are doing here.

Now, if that isn’t your intent, Just what exactly are you doing here?

Chip on July 31, 2012 at 3:49 PM

sharrukin on July 31, 2012 at 3:52 PM

At some point in time, everyone is going to have to make a choice between the two candidates.

And can we dispense with the socialism-lite BS, either you’re a Socialist or You’re not, so stop trying to muddy the waters with the moral equivalency BS.

Chip on July 31, 2012 at 3:59 PM

If you

thatsafactjack on July 31, 2012 at 3:45 PM

Spot on and thanks for taking your time to post this…I got tired of linking to the ‘outraged’ British media (by Mitt’s mildly critical omment that is) ironically reporting on the endless dysfunctionalities that plague their ‘perfect’ OLympics :) …apparently even Cameron came to admit lately that ‘we can do better’ after the empty seats fiasco…good that the military can always be used as fillers…ah, good ole, ‘outraged’ england :)…

jimver on July 31, 2012 at 3:59 PM

Lol, for once Mitt Romney doesn’t pander and the MSM calls it a disaster.

So their idea if effective foreign policy is to tell everyone how peachy they are whether or not they actually are? I prefer a POTUS who tells hard truth and let’s the chips fall where they may.

Did you ever watch the movie about Eisenhower preparing for D-Day? Lord knows what today’s MSM would have said about his heavy handed truthiness with our allies.

P.S., He was right and we won.

mitchellvii on July 31, 2012 at 3:59 PM

In this time of 24/7 news and social media frenzy, perception IS reality. If enough people have said it was a PR disaster, then it IS a PR disaster. That’s just the facts of our time.

inthemiddle on July 31, 2012 at 3:22 PM

That was the Nazi propaganda motto, idiot…if you tell a lie long enough, etc…..

jimver on July 31, 2012 at 4:00 PM

Just what exactly are you doing here?

Chip on July 31, 2012 at 3:49 PM

Let me guess, another ABR nihilist claiming Romeny will destroy the country as thoroughly as 0bama, just a little slower…

It still makes the ABR’s pro-0bama because we don’t have four years to continue with 0bama. At his worst, Romney will give us some breathing room.

cozmo on July 31, 2012 at 4:01 PM

So I’m to vote for the Marxist piece of garbage because Mittens forgot the name of another Marxist piece of garbage?

That is the point of all these JournoTards with their endless meme pushing, isn’t it?

MNHawk on July 31, 2012 at 4:03 PM

inthemiddle on July 31, 2012 at 3:22 PM

That was the Nazi propaganda motto, idiot…if you tell a lie long enough, etc…..

jimver on July 31, 2012 at 4:00 PM

Cut her some slack, its all she has. That, and fluffing ABR’s.

cozmo on July 31, 2012 at 4:05 PM

Romney was right about the Olympics. He made the Palestinians mad while praising Israel. He made the Russians mad while praising Poland. I call that a success.

hadsil on July 31, 2012 at 4:06 PM

At some point in time, everyone is going to have to make a choice between the two candidates.

No actually, they don’t have to make such a choice.

They can vote for Romney.
They can vote for Obama.
They can just vote down ticket.
They might be able to vote for Gary Johnson.
They can write in someone else.
They can choose not to vote at all.

And can we dispense with the socialism-lite BS, either you’re a Socialist or You’re not, so stop trying to muddy the waters with the moral equivalency BS.

Chip on July 31, 2012 at 3:59 PM

OK, Romney record is one of big government, unsustainable spending, increased regulations, nanny state give-aways and curbed freedoms.

Call it whatever you want.

sharrukin on July 31, 2012 at 4:07 PM

“Like you, Mr. Leader, I look forward to our conversations this morning.”

This actually showed class. He addressed Mr. Millibrand by his title. It is like saying “Mr. President” to Obama. This is showing actual respect to a person.

sabbahillel on July 31, 2012 at 4:09 PM

Meh. It didn’t do much for Romney, either. Was this supposed to burnish Romney’s foreign-policy credentials? I thought he was already supposed to be a whiz at everything.

ddrintn on July 31, 2012 at 3:06 PM

I thought his comments about Palestinian culture as it relates to achievent struck at the very heart of the left v. right/makers v. takers debate. The ususal suspects on the left certainly seemed appropriately outraged by it.

Kataklysmic on July 31, 2012 at 3:10 PM

This…!

Seven Percent Solution on July 31, 2012 at 4:10 PM

Call it whatever you want.

sharrukin on July 31, 2012 at 4:07 PM

I’ll call it what it is.

Not to vote for Romney is at the very least, tacit approval of 0bama.

cozmo on July 31, 2012 at 4:12 PM

Just what exactly are you doing here?

Chip on July 31, 2012 at 3:49 PM

Let me guess, another ABR nihilist claiming Romeny will destroy the country as thoroughly as 0bama, just a little slower…

It still makes the ABR’s pro-0bama because we don’t have four years to continue with 0bama. At his worst, Romney will give us some breathing room.

cozmo on July 31, 2012 at 4:01 PM

Recall the scene in engine room in the movie Titanic just after the iceberg was spotted – the engine telegraph ringing full reverse.

The crew had to go through quite a bit of effort before they were able to reverse the engines comply with the order.

Our ship of state is in the same dire situation – at least Romney will let us change course instead of going full-speed ahead into certain disaster with the alternative.

Chip on July 31, 2012 at 4:16 PM

Not to vote for Romney is at the very least, tacit approval of 0bama.

cozmo on July 31, 2012 at 4:12 PM

The lesser of two evils argument is getting rather thread-worn.

It also works if you have Joseph Stalin running against Vladimir Lenin. Lenin is obviously a better choice than Stalin, but that really isn’t the point. An actual choice is what many people want, not just variations on the same big government theme.

sharrukin on July 31, 2012 at 4:17 PM

Call it whatever you want.

sharrukin on July 31, 2012 at 4:07 PM

You called it “socialism-lite” – what is with these attempts at muddying the water?

Chip on July 31, 2012 at 4:18 PM

Not to vote for Romney is at the very least, tacit approval of 0bama.

cozmo on July 31, 2012 at 4:12 PM

The lesser of two evils argument is getting rather thread-worn.

That isn’t what he said.

It also works if you have Joseph Stalin running against Vladimir Lenin. Lenin is obviously a better choice than Stalin, but that really isn’t the point. An actual choice is what many people want, not just variations on the same big government theme.

sharrukin on July 31, 2012 at 4:17 PM

So what is YOUR GRAND [AND WORKABLE] SOLUTION??

Chip on July 31, 2012 at 4:20 PM

jimver on July 31, 2012 at 3:50 PM

Your stomach must be much stronger than mine. I can’t bring myself to watch any of the lefty talking heads, especially that one.

silvernana on July 31, 2012 at 4:24 PM

The people who think Romney’s trip was “gaffe-filled” are the same ones who blanched in horror 30 years ago when Reagan had the stones to call the USSR the “evil empire.”

Right Mover on July 31, 2012 at 4:25 PM

You called it “socialism-lite” – what is with these attempts at muddying the water?

Chip on July 31, 2012 at 4:18 PM

I called it that because that is exactly what it is. Big government, out of control spending, and nanny state enforcement is what leads to full out socialism which is what gave us Obama. It didn’t happen by accident you know. The voters have been conditioned for decades to think that government is the answer and they voted accordingly. Guys like Romney, Clinton, Bush and many others are who created those conditions. We have seen this in Europe as well.

Obama is the symptom, not the architect.

Big government pushes out any threats to its power and bureaucrats start taking over with an ever expanding umbrella of regulations. Socialism is where that ends which is why it earns the name socialism-lite.

sharrukin on July 31, 2012 at 4:26 PM

Not to vote for Romney is at the very least, tacit approval of 0bama.

cozmo on July 31, 2012 at 4:12 PM

The lesser of two evils argument is getting rather thread-worn.

That isn’t what he said.

Chip on July 31, 2012 at 4:20 PM

Yeah, it is what he said.

sharrukin on July 31, 2012 at 4:27 PM

The lesser of two evils argument is getting rather thread-worn.

sharrukin on July 31, 2012 at 4:17 PM

Only to ABR nutballs.

With four more years of 0bama, not even resurrected Reagan with superpowers could save this country.

Only braindead-moron idiot nutballs cannot see that.

Even if Romney was to turn out as bad as you claim:

-Romney would not veto all republican legislation

-Romney will repeal 0bamacare

-Romney’s SCOTUS nominations will not be as bad as 0bama

-Romney will not be “freed up” to be more flexible with real totalitarians

You ABRs have y’alls heads so far up your nether regions all you do is roll around from thread to thread mumbling the same Romney equals 0bama clap trap with out realizing just how stupid y’all are.

Do yourself a favor, stop being such a stupid nutball in public.

cozmo on July 31, 2012 at 4:27 PM

Aw, gee whiz! Romney didn’t kowtow to the opposition-party leader. Would British Prime Minister Cameron, a Tory, really want to meet Nancy Pelosi?

Steve Z on July 31, 2012 at 3:14 PM

Trust me, he would. It’s that sad over there.

jimver on July 31, 2012 at 3:35 PM

Yep. Well said. The Labour party leadership was decided between those two fools and Ed Balls – a Fabianist who proudly declares his desire to reclaim Socialism for Britain, and who now stands one bad election away from becoming Chancellor of the Exchequer. Such is the state of affairs in the UK: a choice between a drooling leftist… Cameron, that is – and the outright Marxists in the opposition. The frustrating days of wincing at Blair’s flashy and substantially weak New Labor have become a distant memory, much like the Clinton administration almost fondly remembered for some of the stupidity that has come since.

I’ll take Lech Walesa’s endorsement over any of those any day.

Gingotts on July 31, 2012 at 3:55 PM

Oh, believe me I know this all to well. I spent all of my time in England (went there to study and stayed for longer than planned :) under the ‘enlightened’ Labour leadership, though truth be told the Tony Blair (non-Marxist) years were quite palatable by comparison to the crazy, quasi blind Gordon Brown years of insane economic policies for Britain…no wonder they gave him the boot, the man was total bonkers….thank God his ‘leadrship’ was short-lived and now they got glorious wanna be leftie (but couldn’t coz he went to Eton, is direct descendant of King WIlliam IV through paternal grandmother and descendant of 2nd Baronet Mount on maternal + v. rich :) David Cameron :)… if they only accepted him with all his pedigree ‘baggage’, he’d be a Labour and not badly mimicking and impersonating Tory today :)…

jimver on July 31, 2012 at 4:28 PM

Yeah, it is what he said.

sharrukin on July 31, 2012 at 4:27 PM

Is comprehension now beyond your gnat sized intellect?

Not to vote for Romney is at the very least, tacit approval of 0bama.

cozmo on July 31, 2012 at 4:12 PM

in now way comes close to:

The lesser of two evils argument is getting rather thread-worn.

sharrukin on July 31, 2012 at 4:17 PM

You don’t have to be stuck on stupid, you are choosing to.

cozmo on July 31, 2012 at 4:30 PM

Not to vote for Romney is at the very least, tacit approval of 0bama.

cozmo on July 31, 2012 at 4:12 PM

Bullshit. Let’s see: if a far-left type votes for Nader or the Greens or whoever other than Romney, is that tacit approval of Obama? Following your logic, a lefty voting third-party is voting for Romney.

-Romney will repeal 0bamacare

cozmo on July 31, 2012 at 4:27 PM

LOL. Someone types that and then has the gall to call anyone else a “nutball”. In the first place, Romney wouldn’t have the power to “repeal” anything, dumbass. In the second, there’s no indication that this fantasized “repeal” from the squish-dominated GOP is forthcoming in any event.

The real “nutballs” are those who think the problem is with some single poltician they want to demonize just to make their own ineffective squishy guy seem more palatable. The problem isn’t Obama. He’s a symptom, not the disease. You pro-Romney nutballs are just like the anti-Bush moonbats from 10 years ago.

ddrintn on July 31, 2012 at 4:32 PM

“…why exactly was Romney’s overseas trip such a “public relations disaster”?

…because it sharply contrasted with Obama’s “all talk, no substance” style, lacked the bowing to foreign despots, and showed the world that America still knows what a real leader looks like.

So the trip was a “public relations disaster”….for Obama!!

landlines on July 31, 2012 at 4:36 PM

The real “nutballs” are those who think the problem is with some single poltician they want to demonize…

ddrintn on July 31, 2012 at 4:32 PM

Writes the 0bama supportin’ nutball spewing BS to demonize Romney.

cozmo on July 31, 2012 at 4:38 PM

Real leaders compete in dressage.

triple on July 31, 2012 at 4:38 PM

OK, Romney record is one of big government, unsustainable spending, increased regulations, nanny state give-aways and curbed freedoms.

Call it whatever you want.

sharrukin on July 31, 2012 at 4:07 PM

I’m calling it the status quo over certain chaos.

Sometimes people have to be pragmatic and play the long game. It seems the instant gratification crowd (not you) have issues with that.

kim roy on July 31, 2012 at 4:38 PM

sharrukin

So what is YOUR GRAND [AND WORKABLE] SOLUTION??

Chip on July 31, 2012 at 4:40 PM

I’m calling it the status quo over certain chaos.

The status quo is going to bring certain chaos, regardless of what party a president’s from.

Sometimes people have to be pragmatic and play the long game. It seems the instant gratification crowd (not you) have issues with that.

kim roy on July 31, 2012 at 4:38 PM

What “long game”? This is the very same rationalization every time votes are needed to get some moderate elected. You’re going to show that moderate-minded establishment you mean business this time by electing Romney! And by golly, if he doesn’t toe the conservative line you are going to vote him OUTTA THERE!!! Well, at least until you get browbeaten into voting for Romney again…because, after all, you don’t want to help the commies by tearing the GOP apart for the sake of some unelectable TrueCon…gotta keep playing that “long game” in 2016…

ddrintn on July 31, 2012 at 4:43 PM

ddrintn on July 31, 2012 at 4:43 PM

Bless your heart, you sound so sincere in your idiocy.

cozmo on July 31, 2012 at 4:45 PM

The lesser of two evils argument is getting rather thread-worn.

sharrukin on July 31, 2012 at 4:17 PM

Only to ABR nutballs.

With four more years of 0bama, not even resurrected Reagan with superpowers could save this country.

Only braindead-moron idiot nutballs cannot see that.

Even if Romney was to turn out as bad as you claim:

-Romney would not veto all republican legislation

-Romney will repeal 0bamacare

-Romney’s SCOTUS nominations will not be as bad as 0bama

-Romney will not be “freed up” to be more flexible with real totalitarians

You ABRs have y’alls heads so far up your nether regions all you do is roll around from thread to thread mumbling the same Romney equals 0bama clap trap with out realizing just how stupid y’all are.

Do yourself a favor, stop being such a stupid nutball in public.

cozmo on July 31, 2012 at 4:27 PM

-Romney’s SCOTUS nominations will not be as bad as 0bama

At a minimum, that should be enough for those who want to preserve Liberty in this great land.

Chip on July 31, 2012 at 4:45 PM

Writes the 0bama supportin’ nutball spewing BS to demonize Romney.

cozmo on July 31, 2012 at 4:38 PM

When have I supported Obama? And what BS? Come on, refute the specifics.

ddrintn on July 31, 2012 at 4:46 PM

ddrintn on July 31, 2012 at 4:43 PM

Bless your heart, you sound so sincere in your idiocy.

cozmo on July 31, 2012 at 4:45 PM

Bless your heart. You can’t come up with any argument other than Rah Rah GOOOOOOOOO RED TEAM!!!!

Idiot.

ddrintn on July 31, 2012 at 4:48 PM

I’m calling it the status quo over certain chaos.

Do you believe that the current status quo is in fact sustainable? Trillions of borrowed dollars are being spent every year and much of that is being monetized by government purchase of T-bills. They are essentially printing money by stealth.

Sometimes people have to be pragmatic and play the long game. It seems the instant gratification crowd (not you) have issues with that.

kim roy on July 31, 2012 at 4:38 PM

The long game could be played some years ago. That argument was shaky, but still viable with George Bush’s first term. It has increasingly become moot.

How much time do you think we have?

Do we see any evidence of the cavalry coming to the rescue? Who is going to do the nasty deeds that will have to be done if any reverse can be expected? I don’t see enough people in the GOP interested in cutting much of anything and the Democrats are a sad joke.

What worries me is that an electorate conditioned to believe that government will be there to save them from the slings and arrows of life will choose someone who promises to make the welfare checks arrive on time.

sharrukin on July 31, 2012 at 4:49 PM

You see, it all started when he placed the queen in a headlock and while tugging her hair was heard screaming, “She’s a man, baby!”

MJBrutus on July 31, 2012 at 4:50 PM

It still makes the ABR’s pro-0bama because we don’t have four years to continue with 0bama. At his worst, Romney will give us some breathing room.

cozmo on July 31, 2012 at 4:01 PM

LOL, “breathing room” for a massive flip of control of Congress in 2014 and Hillary or Andrew Cuomo in 2016.

ddrintn on July 31, 2012 at 4:50 PM

ddrintn on July 31, 2012 at 4:48 PM

Idiot.

Here, have a cookie. I understand its a long wait for the short bus. You may be here a while.

cozmo on July 31, 2012 at 4:51 PM

The real “nutballs” are those who think the problem is with some single poltician they want to demonize…

ddrintn on July 31, 2012 at 4:32 PM

Writes the 0bama supportin’ nutball spewing BS to demonize Romney.

cozmo on July 31, 2012 at 4:38 PM

Your sense of irony is sublime, his – non-existent :)..

jimver on July 31, 2012 at 4:53 PM

So what is YOUR GRAND [AND WORKABLE] SOLUTION??

Chip on July 31, 2012 at 4:40 PM

I don’t think there is one.

The GOP has made their choice and they obviously have no interest in any conservative solutions to the problem. They want big government as much as the Democrats do. They differ in what exactly that government should be doing but those are minor disputes. The Tea Party wanted real cuts and the GOP simply isn’t going to do that.

sharrukin on July 31, 2012 at 4:53 PM

Here, have a cookie. I understand its a long wait for the short bus. You may be here a while.

cozmo on July 31, 2012 at 4:51 PM

Heh…an idiot who’s still repeating the “Romney’s gonna repeal…Day One ™ … ” Mittbot garbage is calling people stooooooopid.

ddrintn on July 31, 2012 at 4:55 PM

Do yourself a favor, stop being such a stupid nutball in public.

cozmo

Once indoctrinated into the cult of Palin, that is no longer possible.

xblade on July 31, 2012 at 4:55 PM

Your sense of irony is sublime, his – non-existent :)..

jimver on July 31, 2012 at 4:53 PM

Nothing more stirring than a ‘bot chest-bump. BOOYAH!

ddrintn on July 31, 2012 at 4:56 PM

It still makes the ABR’s pro-0bama because we don’t have four years to continue with 0bama. At his worst, Romney will give us some breathing room.

cozmo on July 31, 2012 at 4:01 PM

LOL, “breathing room” for a massive flip of control of Congress in 2014 and Hillary or Andrew Cuomo in 2016.

ddrintn on July 31, 2012 at 4:50 PM

Awww, got your crystal ball out of your magic underwear, alas, again? :)…do tell more, if you pls….were the Mayans right about 2012? :)….

jimver on July 31, 2012 at 4:57 PM

ddrintn on July 31, 2012 at 4:55 PM

Aw sweetie your jibes are starting to fall flat. Try again.

cozmo on July 31, 2012 at 4:58 PM

Once indoctrinated into the cult of Palin, that is no longer possible.

xblade on July 31, 2012 at 4:55 PM

“Cult of Palin” my ass. “Mitt’s going to take away all the badness, do away with all our sadness…but Mitt ain’t got a cult, no sireeeee…” LOL

ddrintn on July 31, 2012 at 4:58 PM

ddrintn on July 31, 2012 at 4:56 PM

(spit)

MJBrutus on July 31, 2012 at 4:58 PM

So what is YOUR GRAND [AND WORKABLE] SOLUTION??

Chip on July 31, 2012 at 4:40 PM

I don’t think there is one.

The GOP has made their choice and they obviously have no interest in any conservative solutions to the problem. They want big government as much as the Democrats do. They differ in what exactly that government should be doing but those are minor disputes. The Tea Party wanted real cuts and the GOP simply isn’t going to do that.

sharrukin on July 31, 2012 at 4:53 PM

Okay, so it all boils down to one of the two.

Who would you rather have the president answerable to – the taxpayers or the Communists?

Chip on July 31, 2012 at 4:58 PM

Awww, got your crystal ball out of your magic underwear, alas, again? :)…do tell more, if you pls….were the Mayans right about 2012? :)….

jimver on July 31, 2012 at 4:57 PM

“Magic underwear”? LOL Whew.

ddrintn on July 31, 2012 at 4:59 PM

(spit)

MJBrutus on July 31, 2012 at 4:58 PM

That’s not nice. ddrintn is special and should be treated that way.

If he didn’t exist, somebody would have to create him, if only for the entertainment value.

cozmo on July 31, 2012 at 5:00 PM

ddrintn on July 31, 2012 at 4:56 PM

(spit)

MJBrutus on July 31, 2012 at 4:58 PM

We know already how squishy libs like yourself feel about conservatives.

Okay, so it all boils down to one of the two.

Chip on July 31, 2012 at 4:58 PM

“If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice…”

ddrintn on July 31, 2012 at 5:00 PM

Chip on July 31, 2012 at 4:58 PM

Give her time and don’t confuse her. Binary decisions are hard for her kind.

cozmo on July 31, 2012 at 5:02 PM

That’s not nice. ddrintn is special and should be treated that way.

If he didn’t exist, somebody would have to create him, if only for the entertainment value.

cozmo on July 31, 2012 at 5:00 PM

Awwwwww, it’s buds with the resident Kos Kiddie refugee…how surprising…

ddrintn on July 31, 2012 at 5:03 PM

Sometimes people have to be pragmatic and play the long game. It seems the instant gratification crowd (not you) have issues with that.

kim roy on July 31, 2012 at 4:38 PM

The long game could be played some years ago. That argument was shaky, but still viable with George Bush’s first term. It has increasingly become moot.

How much time do you think we have?

Do we see any evidence of the cavalry coming to the rescue? Who is going to do the nasty deeds that will have to be done if any reverse can be expected? I don’t see enough people in the GOP interested in cutting much of anything and the Democrats are a sad joke.

What worries me is that an electorate conditioned to believe that government will be there to save them from the slings and arrows of life will choose someone who promises to make the welfare checks arrive on time.

sharrukin on July 31, 2012 at 4:49 PM

Really, kim roy. Tell us what this “long game” entails. Weren’t we playing that “long game” from 2001-2006?

ddrintn on July 31, 2012 at 5:05 PM

ddrintn on July 31, 2012 at 5:03 PM

Kos Kiddie, that was a funny one. And being one yourself, you would know.

Except, they have a different cosmo. I know, similar name. Its a common mistake among the lesser beings like yourself.

cozmo on July 31, 2012 at 5:05 PM

MJBrutus on July 31, 2012 at 4:58 PM

We know already how squishy libs like yourself feel about conservatives.

ddrintn on July 31, 2012 at 5:00 PM

and who would be the ‘conservative’ in questions?? You????? Hahaha, priceless…..ok, well, you might lack in șense of irony, but you compensate greatly in senșe of humour :)….

jimver on July 31, 2012 at 5:06 PM

Okay, so it all boils down to one of the two.

Chip on July 31, 2012 at 4:58 PM

“If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice…”

ddrintn on July 31, 2012 at 5:00 PM

Yes, your choosing by default to support a Marxist determined to turn the place into another Zimbabwe – good choice. /sarc.

Chip on July 31, 2012 at 5:06 PM

Who would you rather have the president answerable to – the taxpayers or the Communists?

Chip on July 31, 2012 at 4:58 PM

Neither Romney or Obama will be answerable to the taxpayers. They have both spent like drunken sailors. The Tea Party tried to make the GOP accountable and largely failed. Boehner promised a 100$ billion and delivered next to nothing.

What accountability are you seeing in all of this? A few politicians have been replaced and thats it.

sharrukin on July 31, 2012 at 5:07 PM

In question that is…

jimver on July 31, 2012 at 5:07 PM

ddrintn on July 31, 2012 at 5:00 PM

and who would be the ‘conservative’ in questions?? You????? Hahaha, priceless…..ok, well, you might lack in șense of irony, but you compensate greatly in senșe of humour :)….

jimver on July 31, 2012 at 5:06 PM

Absolutely. I object to both Romney and Obama on conservative grounds. Now genius, if you can find ONE statement of mine in which I support or rationalize away ANY liberal/socialist/communist policies, let’s have it.

ddrintn on July 31, 2012 at 5:08 PM

Ah yes exactly what I love about this place. One big happy HA family. Lol! Oh, and. ; )

Bmore on July 31, 2012 at 5:10 PM

Kos Kiddie, that was a funny one. And being one yourself, you would know.

cozmo on July 31, 2012 at 5:05 PM

Nope. Unlike MJ there, I never blogged at D-Kos. Try again.

ddrintn on July 31, 2012 at 5:10 PM

if you can find ONE statement of mine in which I support or rationalize away ANY liberal/socialist/communist policies, let’s have it.

ddrintn on July 31, 2012 at 5:08 PM

I object to both Romney and Obama

ddrintn on July 31, 2012 at 5:08 PM

Make it a little harder next time.

cozmo on July 31, 2012 at 5:10 PM

ddrintn on July 31, 2012 at 5:10 PM

Then why would you call me a Kos Kid?

Makin’ stuff up…again?

cozmo on July 31, 2012 at 5:12 PM

if you can find ONE statement of mine in which I support or rationalize away ANY liberal/socialist/communist policies, let’s have it.

ddrintn on July 31, 2012 at 5:08 PM

I object to both Romney and Obama

ddrintn on July 31, 2012 at 5:08 PM

Make it a little harder next time.

cozmo on July 31, 2012 at 5:10 PM

Come up with an answer next time.

Then why would you call me a Kos Kid?

Makin’ stuff up…again?

cozmo on July 31, 2012 at 5:12 PM

Learn how to f*cking read.

ddrintn on July 31, 2012 at 5:13 PM

Learn how to f*cking read.

ddrintn on July 31, 2012 at 5:13 PM

I know how to read. Maybe the words you write aren’t the same one’s you are thinking. Common among you nutballs.

The first step is realizing you have a problem.

cozmo on July 31, 2012 at 5:19 PM

I know how to read.

cozmo on July 31, 2012 at 5:19 PM

Show it sometime.

ddrintn on July 31, 2012 at 5:21 PM

Chip on July 31, 2012 at 4:58 PM

Neither Romney or Obama will be answerable to the taxpayers.

sharrukin on July 31, 2012 at 5:07 PM

That wasn’t the choice given was it?

Who would you rather have the president answerable to – the taxpayers or the Communists?

Chip on July 31, 2012 at 5:22 PM

ddrintn on July 31, 2012 at 5:21 PM

Who would you rather have the president answerable to – the taxpayers or the Communists?

Chip on July 31, 2012 at 5:23 PM

ddrintn on July 31, 2012 at 5:21 PM

I know comprehension is hard with your kind, lets try this again:

Maybe the words you write aren’t the same one’s you are thinking. Common among you nutballs.

The first step is realizing you have a problem.

cozmo on July 31, 2012 at 5:19 PM

cozmo on July 31, 2012 at 5:23 PM

That wasn’t the choice given was it?

Who would you rather have the president answerable to – the taxpayers or the Communists?

Chip on July 31, 2012 at 5:22 PM

Do you Romtards really believe this “it’s Mitt or the Commies!!” garbage? And these nutjobs have the nerve to make fun of ‘nistas.

ddrintn on July 31, 2012 at 5:24 PM

ddrintn on July 31, 2012 at 5:21 PM

I know comprehension is hard with your kind, lets try this again:

Maybe the words you write aren’t the same one’s you are thinking. Common among you nutballs.

The first step is realizing you have a problem.

cozmo on July 31, 2012 at 5:19 PM

cozmo on July 31, 2012 at 5:23 PM

About 10 comments from you of the “I know you are but what am I?” type. How old are you, thirteen?

ddrintn on July 31, 2012 at 5:27 PM

That wasn’t the choice given was it?

Who would you rather have the president answerable to – the taxpayers or the Communists?

Chip on July 31, 2012 at 5:22 PM

Do you Romtards really believe this “it’s Mitt or the Commies!!” garbage? And these nutjobs have the nerve to make fun of ‘nistas.

ddrintn on July 31, 2012 at 5:24 PM

That is the choice – or a slight variation thereof.

What do you think it is?

Chip on July 31, 2012 at 5:27 PM

ddrintn on July 31, 2012 at 5:24 PM

A better questio would be:

Do you ABR nutballs really believe the tripe y’all spew?

Or, does the 0bama make it worth prosti what y’all are doing?

cozmo on July 31, 2012 at 5:28 PM

About 10 comments from you of the “I know you are but what am I?” type. How old are you, thirteen?

ddrintn on July 31, 2012 at 5:27 PM

That makes no sense. Definite writing problem.

cozmo on July 31, 2012 at 5:29 PM

Maybe the words you write aren’t the same one’s you are thinking. Common among you nutballs.

The first step is realizing you have a problem.

cozmo on July 31, 2012 at 5:19 PM

Cognitive dissonance is a beaoch…

jimver on July 31, 2012 at 5:29 PM

ddrintn on July 31, 2012 at 5:24 PM

That is the choice – or a slight variation thereof.

(Marxists, Leninists, Statists, Fascists, Progressivists, Stalinists, Socialists,Collectivists)

What do you think it is?

Chip on July 31, 2012 at 5:33 PM

Neither Romney or Obama will be answerable to the taxpayers.

sharrukin on July 31, 2012 at 5:07 PM

That wasn’t the choice given was it?

Who would you rather have the president answerable to – the taxpayers or the Communists?

Chip on July 31, 2012 at 5:22 PM

It not up to you to decide reality. What you are engaging in is called magical thinking. Romney isn’t going to be answerable to the taxpayers so your choice is a false one. They are both very comfortable with the liberal agenda. Obama tends towards the full out socialist arm, and Romney the more moderate European socialist model.

You have a need to believe in a binary choice and are setting up a morality play here that has nothing to do with reality.

sharrukin on July 31, 2012 at 5:34 PM

Who would you rather have the president answerable to – the taxpayers or the Communists?

Chip on July 31, 2012 at 5:22 PM

It not up to you to decide reality. What you are engaging in is called magical thinking. Romney isn’t going to be answerable to the taxpayers so your choice is a false one. They are both very comfortable with the liberal agenda. Obama tends towards the full out socialist arm, and Romney the more moderate European socialist model.

You have a need to believe in a binary choice and are setting up a morality play here that has nothing to do with reality.

sharrukin on July 31, 2012 at 5:34 PM

Okay, why don’t you inform me what is the ‘True’ realty?

For starters: Are there two candidates for president?

Or is that some sort of mass illusion that only a few can penetrate?

Chip on July 31, 2012 at 5:39 PM

You have a need to believe in a binary choice and are setting up a morality play here that has nothing to do with reality.

sharrukin on July 31, 2012 at 5:34 PM

Oh, and you decide what ‘reality’ is or should be for everybody here :) …

jimver on July 31, 2012 at 5:39 PM

You have a need to believe in a binary choice and are setting up a morality play here that has nothing to do with reality.

sharrukin on July 31, 2012 at 5:34 PM

No, it is a binary decision. The only ones not facing reality are those who don’t realize it.

cozmo on July 31, 2012 at 5:39 PM

For starters: Are there two candidates for president?

I assume you mean are there two candidates who have a chance to win, if you ask FloatingRock will tell you about a third candidate.

Or is that some sort of mass illusion that only a few can penetrate?

Chip on July 31, 2012 at 5:39 PM

The illusion is that you believe there will be any substantial difference between how they govern. Romney has a record in office and its not a conservative one. Now the Romney supporters will excuse that away as those evil Democrats making poor Romney the ‘severe’ conservative do things against his will. They then will tell us that we should send the ‘severely’ conservative Romney to Washington DC to deal with the more nasty version of Democrats who reside in that fair city. He got rolled by the Massachusetts Democrats but we expect him to push around the Washington variety? That strikes me as something of an illusion.

Of course they aren’t being honest when they claim Romney was forced to do something in Massachusetts he didn’t want to do. They know he isn’t conservative and will say anything to put their guy in power.

Romney didn’t change anything in Massachusetts and he isn’t going to change anything in Washington.

sharrukin on July 31, 2012 at 5:50 PM

Romney didn’t change anything in Massachusetts and he isn’t going to change anything in Washington.

sharrukin on July 31, 2012 at 5:50 PM

What you are denying is that he doesn’t have to. He just has to stay out of the way. 0bama won’t do that.

Since you don’t like it, you are a de facto 0bama supporter.

cozmo on July 31, 2012 at 5:53 PM

sharrukin on July 31, 2012 at 5:50 PM

You are but an all knowing shaman sitting atop a mountain and we have come forth seeking knowledge.

Fill us our empty vessels of knowledge Oh wisest one!

Who would you rather have the president answerable to – the taxpayers or the Communists?

Chip on July 31, 2012 at 5:55 PM

The illusion is that you believe there will be any substantial difference between how they govern. Romney has a record in office and its not a conservative one. Now the Romney supporters will excuse that away as those evil Democrats making poor Romney the ‘severe’ conservative do things against his will. They then will tell us that we should send the ‘severely’ conservative Romney to Washington DC to deal with the more nasty version of Democrats who reside in that fair city. He got rolled by the Massachusetts Democrats but we expect him to push around the Washington variety? That strikes me as something of an illusion.

Of course they aren’t being honest when they claim Romney was forced to do something in Massachusetts he didn’t want to do. They know he isn’t conservative and will say anything to put their guy in power.

Romney didn’t change anything in Massachusetts and he isn’t going to change anything in Washington.

sharrukin on July 31, 2012 at 5:50 PM

That is not true. Romney cut taxes and the size of government when he was in office. The idea that there is no difference between Romney and Obama is just ridiculous..one thing is for sure, Obama and Romney sure would not believe that.

But if you want to sit out the election and pout,fine..go ahead who cares?

Terrye on July 31, 2012 at 5:55 PM

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