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		<title>By: NYTimes Columnist Sent Article Draft to White House&#8217;s Valerie Jarrett for Comments Before Publishing &#124; The Weekly Standard</title>
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		<dc:creator>NYTimes Columnist Sent Article Draft to White House&#8217;s Valerie Jarrett for Comments Before Publishing &#124; The Weekly Standard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 18:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: uncle_fweddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>uncle_fweddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh Barry (swoon) WHAT a hunk of man. Can I feel your muscles, please? Tell me, again, how you heroically sat in your air conditioned office, and sent others in to do the job on Obama, whoops, I mean Osama. I always get you two confused. Oh, and be careful that you don&#039;t sprain your arm, patting yourself on the back. What a doofus.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Barry (swoon) WHAT a hunk of man. Can I feel your muscles, please? Tell me, again, how you heroically sat in your air conditioned office, and sent others in to do the job on Obama, whoops, I mean Osama. I always get you two confused. Oh, and be careful that you don&#8217;t sprain your arm, patting yourself on the back. What a doofus.</p>
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		<title>By: diogenes</title>
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		<dc:creator>diogenes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2012 13:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Some democratic insider will expose Obama as a incompetent boob after he’s out of the White House.

Where’s the patriot who will do it now?.....

hepcat on July 30, 2012 at 4:02 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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The thought occurred to me also.  Have they all sold their souls?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Some democratic insider will expose Obama as a incompetent boob after he’s out of the White House.</p>
<p>Where’s the patriot who will do it now?&#8230;..</p>
<p>hepcat on July 30, 2012 at 4:02 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>-<br />
The thought occurred to me also.  Have they all sold their souls?</p>
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		<title>By: Don L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2012 10:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Somewhere in Alinsky&#039;s Rules for Radicals their must be this:
When you are forced kicking and dragging to do that which you loathe doing - do it and then claim credit.

Bill Clinton read that when he signed in that welfare reform act.

Romney in Massachusetts did a lot of....well, we won&#039;t go there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somewhere in Alinsky&#8217;s Rules for Radicals their must be this:<br />
When you are forced kicking and dragging to do that which you loathe doing &#8211; do it and then claim credit.</p>
<p>Bill Clinton read that when he signed in that welfare reform act.</p>
<p>Romney in Massachusetts did a lot of&#8230;.well, we won&#8217;t go there.</p>
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		<title>By: Common Sense</title>
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		<dc:creator>Common Sense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2012 03:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My thoughts:

1) Hilary Clinton looks far more presidential than Obama during this event, taking her job seriously and working with Panetta and Daley to convince Obama to make the call

2) No wonder Obama has so much time for gold and fundraisers, he&#039;s not  meeting with anyone or making any decisions

3) It&#039;s absolutely disgusting that he chose to endanger a SEAL Team instead of dropping a bomb, for political expediency. Disgusting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My thoughts:</p>
<p>1) Hilary Clinton looks far more presidential than Obama during this event, taking her job seriously and working with Panetta and Daley to convince Obama to make the call</p>
<p>2) No wonder Obama has so much time for gold and fundraisers, he&#8217;s not  meeting with anyone or making any decisions</p>
<p>3) It&#8217;s absolutely disgusting that he chose to endanger a SEAL Team instead of dropping a bomb, for political expediency. Disgusting.</p>
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		<title>By: yongoro</title>
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		<dc:creator>yongoro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2012 02:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think most people will see what they want to see.  If you support him, then you will say he was prudently cautious and it paid off because we got OBL anyway.  If you don&#039;t support him, then he doesn&#039;t want to make decisions because ultimately he&#039;s responsible if it fails and there&#039;s no one else to blame but he only did because he was forced to.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think most people will see what they want to see.  If you support him, then you will say he was prudently cautious and it paid off because we got OBL anyway.  If you don&#8217;t support him, then he doesn&#8217;t want to make decisions because ultimately he&#8217;s responsible if it fails and there&#8217;s no one else to blame but he only did because he was forced to.</p>
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		<title>By: Bmore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2012 01:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Small Chair! *pointing and laughing*]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Small Chair! *pointing and laughing*</p>
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		<title>By: FactsofLife</title>
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		<dc:creator>FactsofLife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2012 01:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It doesn&#039;t bother me whether Obama himself made the call or his team.
.
Bush personally squashed any real attempt to get Obama. John Loftus has the proof that the Bush administration directly foiled efforts to get him earlier.
.
I&#039;m conservative and anything is better than Obama but unfortunately his team gets the credit for this one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t bother me whether Obama himself made the call or his team.<br />
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Bush personally squashed any real attempt to get Obama. John Loftus has the proof that the Bush administration directly foiled efforts to get him earlier.<br />
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I&#8217;m conservative and anything is better than Obama but unfortunately his team gets the credit for this one.</p>
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		<title>By: Xyz22</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xyz22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2012 01:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think obozo was on the golf course and, after the third cancellation, Panetta said go get bin Laden, then dragged obozo&#039;s skinny azz off the golf course and threw him on a chair in the corner and told him to sit there and shut up. The guy has such a deer-in-the-headlights look, I almost feel sorry for him. Almost.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think obozo was on the golf course and, after the third cancellation, Panetta said go get bin Laden, then dragged obozo&#8217;s skinny azz off the golf course and threw him on a chair in the corner and told him to sit there and shut up. The guy has such a deer-in-the-headlights look, I almost feel sorry for him. Almost.</p>
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		<title>By: Blacklake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blacklake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2012 00:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It kind of matters. It was sold to the public as Obama making a bold decision on the fly. If it was actually something he&#039;d been mulling as a potential for weeks, and had actually pussed out on several times previously, that would render it a bit of a deceptive sell.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It kind of matters. It was sold to the public as Obama making a bold decision on the fly. If it was actually something he&#8217;d been mulling as a potential for weeks, and had actually pussed out on several times previously, that would render it a bit of a deceptive sell.</p>
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		<title>By: slickwillie2001</title>
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		<dc:creator>slickwillie2001</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2012 00:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;About that photo – I don’t think Barry’s image was inserted from another source. I’ve noted for some time whenever he is next to someone, his head is always visibly smaller. Hat size probably about 5. Small cranium, small brain. I’m still waiting to see those stellar SAT scores and grades to confirm the Left’s claims about the most brilliant ever.

USN Corpseman on July 30, 2012 at 8:06 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Could be. Probably poor nutrition, pre and post-natal, mother probably experimenting with psychedelics and good old booze.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>About that photo – I don’t think Barry’s image was inserted from another source. I’ve noted for some time whenever he is next to someone, his head is always visibly smaller. Hat size probably about 5. Small cranium, small brain. I’m still waiting to see those stellar SAT scores and grades to confirm the Left’s claims about the most brilliant ever.</p>
<p>USN Corpseman on July 30, 2012 at 8:06 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Could be. Probably poor nutrition, pre and post-natal, mother probably experimenting with psychedelics and good old booze.</p>
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		<title>By: USN Corpseman</title>
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		<dc:creator>USN Corpseman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2012 00:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[About that photo - I don&#039;t think Barry&#039;s image was inserted from another source.  I&#039;ve noted for some time whenever he is next to someone, his head is always visibly smaller.  Hat size probably about 5.  Small cranium, small brain.  I&#039;m still waiting to see those stellar SAT scores and grades to confirm the Left&#039;s claims about the most brilliant ever.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About that photo &#8211; I don&#8217;t think Barry&#8217;s image was inserted from another source.  I&#8217;ve noted for some time whenever he is next to someone, his head is always visibly smaller.  Hat size probably about 5.  Small cranium, small brain.  I&#8217;m still waiting to see those stellar SAT scores and grades to confirm the Left&#8217;s claims about the most brilliant ever.</p>
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		<title>By: slickwillie2001</title>
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		<dc:creator>slickwillie2001</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 23:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;  ...Which is being buried along with Michelle Bachmann. It seems that not even Hot Gas wants to take that one on. I wonder why?

    kim roy on July 30, 2012 at 4:20 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hot Gas is not a news site. The writers write about whatever strikes their personal fancy and/or will get hits. You want news headlines Drudge is still the most reliable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>  &#8230;Which is being buried along with Michelle Bachmann. It seems that not even Hot Gas wants to take that one on. I wonder why?</p>
<p>    kim roy on July 30, 2012 at 4:20 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Hot Gas is not a news site. The writers write about whatever strikes their personal fancy and/or will get hits. You want news headlines Drudge is still the most reliable.</p>
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		<title>By: CW</title>
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		<dc:creator>CW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 22:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[verbaluce, you&#039;re funny...not in a good way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>verbaluce, you&#8217;re funny&#8230;not in a good way.</p>
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		<title>By: Right Mover</title>
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		<dc:creator>Right Mover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 22:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;And you wonder why nobody will listen to you anymore…

verbaluce on July 30, 2012 at 4:37 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh, so in addition to being a narrow-minded, Obama-fellating acolyte, you are a mind-reading troll who can divine what I &quot;wonder,&quot; too?

Here&#039;s a clue. When you talk about wondering why nobody listens to what someone has to say, you are doing something known as projection. Not that I expect you to have the self-awareness to know what that is, but it&#039;s one thing the shallowest water-carriers of the left have perfected.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And you wonder why nobody will listen to you anymore…</p>
<p>verbaluce on July 30, 2012 at 4:37 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, so in addition to being a narrow-minded, Obama-fellating acolyte, you are a mind-reading troll who can divine what I &#8220;wonder,&#8221; too?</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a clue. When you talk about wondering why nobody listens to what someone has to say, you are doing something known as projection. Not that I expect you to have the self-awareness to know what that is, but it&#8217;s one thing the shallowest water-carriers of the left have perfected.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Mac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 22:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;What the hell sort of military or international affairs chops does this Valerie Jarret have?

None.

She is Assistant to the President for Public Engagement. [IOW, she is all about his public perception and publicity.]

But, she is calling the shots?

coldwarrior on July 30, 2012 at 12:08 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think this is &lt;strong&gt;a critical piece of information&lt;/strong&gt; which needs to be in the main article. 

On three different occasions a chance arose to take down OBL and on each occasion it seems Obama ignored the advice of the professionals at hand and instead did what his PR person told him to- and each time the risk existed that OBL might move again and be lost. Clearly Obama didn&#039;t delay the op for military or intelligence reasons, he did it on the say so of one of his Chicago cronies.

President Present strikes again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What the hell sort of military or international affairs chops does this Valerie Jarret have?</p>
<p>None.</p>
<p>She is Assistant to the President for Public Engagement. [IOW, she is all about his public perception and publicity.]</p>
<p>But, she is calling the shots?</p>
<p>coldwarrior on July 30, 2012 at 12:08 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>I think this is <strong>a critical piece of information</strong> which needs to be in the main article. </p>
<p>On three different occasions a chance arose to take down OBL and on each occasion it seems Obama ignored the advice of the professionals at hand and instead did what his PR person told him to- and each time the risk existed that OBL might move again and be lost. Clearly Obama didn&#8217;t delay the op for military or intelligence reasons, he did it on the say so of one of his Chicago cronies.</p>
<p>President Present strikes again.</p>
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		<title>By: ajacksonian</title>
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		<dc:creator>ajacksonian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 22:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Valerie Jarrett - the power behind the power behind the throne.

It does make one wonder why she didn&#039;t want OBL taken down.  I mean the guy couldn&#039;t have her phone number on a laptop, now, could he?  So why counsel against going after him?  She is no military expert, not a foreign policy expert... so why defer to her on this?

Am I glad OBL was taken out?  Yes.

And if it would have taken a tacnuke to make sure of the job, then I could see some fudging.  No one was making the tacnuke case, so why the fudging?  I doubt that Jarrett is an expert in small unit tactics, CQB or anything dealing with such a mission... not even weather as the armed forces have some pretty interesting capabilities in the worst of weather.  Why leave such a person alive?  He did declare war on us... all of us... and given the organization that is not an idle threat.

It isn&#039;t the weakness of Obama that is worrying - he bows and scrapes more than is seemly for any man to foreign leaders - it is worrying that Jarrett would NOT want OBL taken out, multiple times.

That is the worrying part.

Just what is up with that?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Valerie Jarrett &#8211; the power behind the power behind the throne.</p>
<p>It does make one wonder why she didn&#8217;t want OBL taken down.  I mean the guy couldn&#8217;t have her phone number on a laptop, now, could he?  So why counsel against going after him?  She is no military expert, not a foreign policy expert&#8230; so why defer to her on this?</p>
<p>Am I glad OBL was taken out?  Yes.</p>
<p>And if it would have taken a tacnuke to make sure of the job, then I could see some fudging.  No one was making the tacnuke case, so why the fudging?  I doubt that Jarrett is an expert in small unit tactics, CQB or anything dealing with such a mission&#8230; not even weather as the armed forces have some pretty interesting capabilities in the worst of weather.  Why leave such a person alive?  He did declare war on us&#8230; all of us&#8230; and given the organization that is not an idle threat.</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t the weakness of Obama that is worrying &#8211; he bows and scrapes more than is seemly for any man to foreign leaders &#8211; it is worrying that Jarrett would NOT want OBL taken out, multiple times.</p>
<p>That is the worrying part.</p>
<p>Just what is up with that?</p>
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		<title>By: Wagthatdog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wagthatdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 21:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He didn&#039;t do it on his own, he had some help.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He didn&#8217;t do it on his own, he had some help.</p>
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		<title>By: The War Planner</title>
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		<dc:creator>The War Planner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 21:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;in the end&lt;/strong&gt; UBL was killed.

&lt;strong&gt;ted c on July 30, 2012 at 12:15 PM&lt;/strong&gt;

fifm

&lt;strong&gt;ted c on July 30, 2012 at 12:15 PM&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;em&gt;..I thought he was taken out with a head shot. Doesn&#039;t the Mafia do it this way? Musta hurt.&lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><strong>in the end</strong> UBL was killed.</p>
<p><strong>ted c on July 30, 2012 at 12:15 PM</strong></p>
<p>fifm</p>
<p><strong>ted c on July 30, 2012 at 12:15 PM</strong></p></blockquote>
<p><em>..I thought he was taken out with a head shot. Doesn&#8217;t the Mafia do it this way? Musta hurt.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Del Dolemonte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Del Dolemonte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 21:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;    You’re doing an even less effective and more incoherent job of carrying the sociopath-in-chief’s water than usual today.

Right Mover on July 30, 2012 at 3:39 PM

I’m just not drinking from the same &lt;strong&gt;poised well&lt;/strong&gt; you frequent.
‘Sociopath-in-chief’?

And you wonder why nobody will listen to you anymore…

verbaluce on July 30, 2012 at 4:37 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I always try to drink from dishevelled wells.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>    You’re doing an even less effective and more incoherent job of carrying the sociopath-in-chief’s water than usual today.</p>
<p>Right Mover on July 30, 2012 at 3:39 PM</p>
<p>I’m just not drinking from the same <strong>poised well</strong> you frequent.<br />
‘Sociopath-in-chief’?</p>
<p>And you wonder why nobody will listen to you anymore…</p>
<p>verbaluce on July 30, 2012 at 4:37 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>I always try to drink from dishevelled wells.</p>
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		<title>By: novaculus</title>
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		<dc:creator>novaculus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 21:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;   &lt;blockquote&gt; “. . .claims that Obama refused to give the green light three times before finally giving the go-ahead
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Wanna bet this in one intelligence leak that was NOT authorized from the Oval Office?

Siddhartha Vicious on July 30, 2012 at 5:19 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Using intelligence leaks to create false narratives that support political agendas has consequences. 

Among those consequences is creating anger among those who know the real story and who deserve the real credit. Another is reducing the motivation on the part of others who hold classified information but have different agendas to respect the rules, when they see the rules repeatedly violated in service of Obama&#039;s crass political agendas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote> “. . .claims that Obama refused to give the green light three times before finally giving the go-ahead
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<p>Wanna bet this in one intelligence leak that was NOT authorized from the Oval Office?</p>
<p>Siddhartha Vicious on July 30, 2012 at 5:19 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Using intelligence leaks to create false narratives that support political agendas has consequences. </p>
<p>Among those consequences is creating anger among those who know the real story and who deserve the real credit. Another is reducing the motivation on the part of others who hold classified information but have different agendas to respect the rules, when they see the rules repeatedly violated in service of Obama&#8217;s crass political agendas.</p>
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		<title>By: PolAgnostic</title>
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		<dc:creator>PolAgnostic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 21:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Who the hell is this? One bastard goes in, another one comes out.

RasThavas on July 30, 2012 at 4:45 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

He is a troll who has the religious fever for all the SCOAMF he can get.

He avoids inconvenient truths - like how outraged most conservatives were with W&#039;s leaving our troops &quot;sitting in place&quot;  to die while the diplomats tried negotiating a settlement with Al-Qaeda in Iraq and Iran for two years.

His worshipping also blinds him to the peril of indecision and incompetence.

&lt;em&gt;How bad is he?&lt;/em&gt;

I stopped my liberal niece in her tracks yesterday when I reminded her that we grew up in the Cold War era and always lived under the M.A.D. threat until we were adults - but her two kids in my pool at the time (the eldest is 19) have &lt;strong&gt;NEVER&lt;/strong&gt; known that feeling ... but the Obama administration&#039;s attempt to &lt;strong&gt;reset&lt;/strong&gt; the relationship with a Mafia nation state (which she freey acknowledges Russia to be) and the nation which to this day crushes dissent the same way they did in Tianemen Square have brought us back to the precipice of a Second Cold War.

I asked, &quot;Is that what you want for them?&quot;

Her clear answer, &quot;No.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Who the hell is this? One bastard goes in, another one comes out.</p>
<p>RasThavas on July 30, 2012 at 4:45 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>He is a troll who has the religious fever for all the SCOAMF he can get.</p>
<p>He avoids inconvenient truths &#8211; like how outraged most conservatives were with W&#8217;s leaving our troops &#8220;sitting in place&#8221;  to die while the diplomats tried negotiating a settlement with Al-Qaeda in Iraq and Iran for two years.</p>
<p>His worshipping also blinds him to the peril of indecision and incompetence.</p>
<p><em>How bad is he?</em></p>
<p>I stopped my liberal niece in her tracks yesterday when I reminded her that we grew up in the Cold War era and always lived under the M.A.D. threat until we were adults &#8211; but her two kids in my pool at the time (the eldest is 19) have <strong>NEVER</strong> known that feeling &#8230; but the Obama administration&#8217;s attempt to <strong>reset</strong> the relationship with a Mafia nation state (which she freey acknowledges Russia to be) and the nation which to this day crushes dissent the same way they did in Tianemen Square have brought us back to the precipice of a Second Cold War.</p>
<p>I asked, &#8220;Is that what you want for them?&#8221;</p>
<p>Her clear answer, &#8220;No.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Siddhartha Vicious</title>
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		<dc:creator>Siddhartha Vicious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 21:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;. . .claims that Obama refused to give the green light three times before finally giving the go-ahead&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Wanna bet this in one intelligence leak that was NOT authorized from the Oval Office?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;. . .claims that Obama refused to give the green light three times before finally giving the go-ahead</p></blockquote>
<p>Wanna bet this in one intelligence leak that was NOT authorized from the Oval Office?</p>
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		<title>By: str8tface</title>
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		<dc:creator>str8tface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 21:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As has been noted, Obama did not make the call until he was guaranteed deniability.  The resposibility for the go/not go was assumed by Admiral McRaven, who would have taken the blame for any failure.  In that case it would have been painted as a rogue operation and Adm McRaven&#039;s career would have been over.  He accepted this and the operation went on. Obama&#039;s cabinet officials understood he would never make the call otherwise.  

In all respects this episode was identical to the Somali pirate crisis  early in Obama&#039;s Presidency.  Somali pirates took over an American tanker and took the Captain hostage.  They threatened to kill him unless their demands were met.  The nearest Navy vessel was the USS Bainbridge which was equipped with snipers.  Over the course of several days Obama temporized, saying force could be used if the Captain&#039;s life was in danger.Finally the Captain of the Bainbridge made the call, deciding that the Captain&#039;s life was in danger as he had guns pointed at him. The snipers took out the pirates, the crisis was ended, Obama got the credit.  Had the rescue ended badly the Captain of the Bainbridge would have had the blame and Obama would have disassociated himself from the decision and the Captain&#039;s career would have ended.

This is our CIC.  Taking credit for the decisions of braver men.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As has been noted, Obama did not make the call until he was guaranteed deniability.  The resposibility for the go/not go was assumed by Admiral McRaven, who would have taken the blame for any failure.  In that case it would have been painted as a rogue operation and Adm McRaven&#8217;s career would have been over.  He accepted this and the operation went on. Obama&#8217;s cabinet officials understood he would never make the call otherwise.  </p>
<p>In all respects this episode was identical to the Somali pirate crisis  early in Obama&#8217;s Presidency.  Somali pirates took over an American tanker and took the Captain hostage.  They threatened to kill him unless their demands were met.  The nearest Navy vessel was the USS Bainbridge which was equipped with snipers.  Over the course of several days Obama temporized, saying force could be used if the Captain&#8217;s life was in danger.Finally the Captain of the Bainbridge made the call, deciding that the Captain&#8217;s life was in danger as he had guns pointed at him. The snipers took out the pirates, the crisis was ended, Obama got the credit.  Had the rescue ended badly the Captain of the Bainbridge would have had the blame and Obama would have disassociated himself from the decision and the Captain&#8217;s career would have ended.</p>
<p>This is our CIC.  Taking credit for the decisions of braver men.</p>
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		<title>By: a capella</title>
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		<dc:creator>a capella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 21:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;No doubt. Valerie Jarrett was the Chairman of the Board of the Chicago hospital that gave Moochie her $400,000 a year sinecure when little Bammie became Illinois state senator.

slickwillie2001 on July 30, 2012 at 4:40 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;Ah! I didn&#039;t know that. Thank you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>No doubt. Valerie Jarrett was the Chairman of the Board of the Chicago hospital that gave Moochie her $400,000 a year sinecure when little Bammie became Illinois state senator.</p>
<p>slickwillie2001 on July 30, 2012 at 4:40 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Ah! I didn&#8217;t know that. Thank you.</p>
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