Was the fourth time the charm for the “gutsy call”?

posted at 12:01 pm on July 30, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Just how “gutsy” was the call to hit the Abbottabad compound in Pakistan to kill Osama bin Laden?  Barack Obama’s supporters have insisted that the final green-light decision shows just how courageous a Commander in Chief the current President is, while his critics called the decision a no-brainer.  Perhaps both sides could find some support for their positions in a new book by Richard Miniter, who claims that Obama refused to give the green light three times before finally giving the go-ahead:

At the urging of Valerie Jarrett, President Barack Obama canceled the operation to kill Osama bin Laden on three separate occasions before finally approving the May 2, 2011 Navy SEAL mission, according to an explosive new book scheduled for release August 21. The Daily Caller has seen a portion of the chapter in which the stunning revelation appears.

In ”Leading From Behind: The Reluctant President and the Advisors Who Decide for Him,“ Richard Miniter writes that Obama canceled the “kill” mission in January 2011, again in February, and a third time in March. Obama’s close adviser Valerie Jarrett persuaded him to hold off each time, according to the book.

Miniter, a two-time New York Times best-selling author, cites an unnamed source with Joint Special Operations Command who had direct knowledge of the operation and its planning.

The thrust of the book, clearly, is to paint Obama as a dilettante executive who doesn’t have the fortitude to make tough decisions.  Rumors of waffling arose shortly after the mission was made public, which had Leon Panetta supposedly demanding action from Obama and pushing him into giving approval.  The White House has denied that version of events, but if Miniter’s correct about the three previous cancellations, it provides a little more context for Panetta’s purported frustration.

Let’s presume Miniter’s source is accurate. Will it make much of a difference?  After all, the Special Ops mission succeeded in neutralizing Osama bin Laden and confiscating a treasure trove of intel.  Had we never succeeded and this came out, it would be devastating, but the success leaves the argument open that Obama had less confidence in the previous openings for the mission.  Reportedly, the intel was not 100% or even close to certainty that it was OBL at the compound at the time of the actual mission, and it might have been less certain than that in the earlier windows of opportunity.  Obama’s decisions to postpone might be used as an argument that he was careful with American assets and troops, and could emphasize that this was indeed a “gutsy call.”

That leaves us essentially where we were before Miniter’s revelation.  Obama’s supporters will continue to think this was a gutsy call for which Obama deserves credit, while his opponents will argue that any indecision to go after Enemy Number One shows a lack of fortitude.  The rest are probably just grateful that OBL has had justice delivered unto him, but care more about jobs and the economy than a 15-months-dead terrorist mastermind.


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PolAgnostic on July 30, 2012 at 12:45 PM

If that is an accurate accounting of events Ed should have waited to comment.

NotCoach on July 30, 2012 at 1:03 PM

I see people are now drinking the Kool-aid that he made the call on the 4th time. The truth is, Obama never made the call. Gates, Clinton, and Panetta were fed up with Obama’s non-commital and made the call themselves. Do you think that Obama would have to be pulled from the golf course that day if he actually knew this was going down …
DoS_Conservative on July 30, 2012 at 12:54 PM

My bet is eventually this will be documented.

petefrt on July 30, 2012 at 1:04 PM

I love that pic ! Pizza delivery buy obie hangin around for the money shot.

Was he really in the room though…….awfully tiny head-even for Odoofus.

FlaMurph on July 30, 2012 at 1:05 PM

I think the point is: What was VALERIE JARRET’S level of expertise in being the principle ‘adviser’ to Obama in making the decision when, and even IF, to strike Bin Ladin?

My understanding has been that Jarrett is in charge of a somewhat less military/intelligence position within the administration. Her retitled position is senior adviser and assistant to the president for Public Engagement and Intergovernmental Affairs.

Certainly an amorphous title. However, what, exactly, qualifies Jarret to be making theses decisions and why is she given access to this extremely sensitive intelligence material? If people objected to Axelrod being privy to these meetings, why was Jarret there?

I don’t recall Jarrett ever serving in the military, in intelligence of any kind, as a member of the joint chiefs, or in the State Department. No one cast a single ballot electing her to the presidency. Her bio lists her as a ‘lawyer, businesswoman, and civic leader’ from Chicago. She has a BA in Psychology, and a JD from University of Michigan.

So how is it, since she has never been on any ballot, has no military or intelligence background or experience, that Ms. Jarret is the principle adviser to the president regarding a matter as sensitive and potentially volatile, as when and if to strike bin Laden…and apparently deciding the exact timing of that operation?

thatsafactjack on July 30, 2012 at 1:08 PM

PolAgnostic on July 30, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Dear God, the “Inside the Administration” books to be written next year are going to be delicious.

JeffWeimer on July 30, 2012 at 1:08 PM

Obama showed how GUTSY he was by going against Valerie Jarret.

Thus was born, Obama “the GUTSY”.

Gunlock Bill on July 30, 2012 at 1:12 PM

The O has never made a decision in his life. Some one has always carried his pack. Doesn’t pack the gear, never has.

StevC on July 30, 2012 at 1:14 PM

Will no one rid us of this troublesome Jarrett?

RebeccaH on July 30, 2012 at 1:16 PM

Let us not forget:

When the smoke cleared and Mr Gutsy Call found himself lying across the goal line with the ball, he then stood and proceeded to spike the ball, outing Seal Team 6 in the process.

Several weeks later, Mr. Gutsy Call found himself consoling other members and family of Seal Team 6 members who had been shot down on another mission with a rocket.

Mr Gutsy Call was directly responsible for the outing of Seal Team 6 as the strike team, thereby providing the enemy with the information of whom to hit back.

Mr Gutsy call also delivered to the enemy specific information regarding what we’d found in Bin Laden’s crib, thereby negating much of the intel.

God, and this man has the football?

Tenwheeler on July 30, 2012 at 1:20 PM

No judgement here,I’ll wait for the movie.

docflash on July 30, 2012 at 1:22 PM

Except that the rumors of Jarrett interference in the Bin Ladin mission in a very public fight with Dailey was already in the blogosphere months before the actual raid.

2nd Ammendment Mother on July 30, 2012 at 1:25 PM

He waited because he was sharpening his teeth – you know, so that he could personally rip bin Laden’s throat out.

crazy_legs on July 30, 2012 at 1:26 PM

Ed is completely missing the potential significance and the potential damage this story represents.

Far from being the decisive Commander in Chief making gutsy calls, Obama is revealed as vacillating, fearful of consequences, and under the spell of the Rasputin-like Jarrett.

The Obama narrative is shown not only to be untruthful, but the truth turned upside-down. The narrative of Obama’s personal and political history largely represents the same kind of fabrication, and won’t withstand close examination. Stories like this one that raise the possibility that lies of this magnitude have been told move the Overton window and open the possibility in people’s minds that other such whoppers exist.

So this type of story threatens to unravel the Emperor’s new clothes in devastating fashion, which may explain the hacking attacks on the DC site. Someone understands just how potentially devastating this story is.

Obama is portrayed as not only falsely taking credit for the decision to go after bin Laden, but as an obstacle to getting bin Laden, unduly influenced by Jarrett, and eventually outmaneuvered by his own staff in order to get the job done.

That is a devastating portrayal, Ed. If it gets traction, it not only challenges the Obama narrative about getting bin Laden, it raises much broader questions about his entirely fabricated personal history and ultimately about his capability to act as Commander in Chief.

novaculus on July 30, 2012 at 1:26 PM

So how is it, since she has never been on any ballot, has no military or intelligence background or experience, that Ms. Jarret is the principle adviser to the president regarding a matter as sensitive and potentially volatile, as when and if to strike bin Laden…and apparently deciding the exact timing of that operation?

thatsafactjack on July 30, 2012 at 1:08 PM

EVERYTHING in the Obama world is about Obama’s image and Obama’s political goals, including re-election. Decisions on military strategies and national defense are subordinated to Obama’s personal and political agendas.

So the political adviser Jarrett is the single most important voice for Barry, because everything is all about him.

Seriously, Obama’s personal history is dominated by strong female figures. His grandmother was the breadwinner, his mother a globe-trotting Marxist anthropologist once known as “Anarchist Annie”, his wife was formerly his boss. Is there any wonder he gravitates to dominant women now?

Ultimately, letting a woman decide for him is Obama’s default mode.

novaculus on July 30, 2012 at 1:36 PM

Steve Jobs’ smarts & hard work didn’t build Apple, but Obama got bin Laden all by himself!

Richard Blaine on July 30, 2012 at 1:39 PM

What else is Valerie directing or influencing? Policy towards Iran, Syria, Israel? Other military operations? I read somewhere she holds dual citizenship with Iran.

Can Obama get away with this because president’s can take the advice of anyone they choose? Or do military matters require the input or sign-off of actual military people?

I’m glad somebody is leaking about this.

Mayday on July 30, 2012 at 1:39 PM

He walked in while the operation was already in progress. He was late because he was literally out golfing. Then in an effort to make him look more like the center of the operation, he requested that Hillary and another female staffer be photoshopped out of the image when first released.

nitzsche on July 30, 2012 at 1:47 PM

Obama looks like he’s sitting in at the Thanksgiving “kiddy table” in that pic.

Dr. ZhivBlago on July 30, 2012 at 1:47 PM

Awww, president testosterone, as opposed to ‘wimpy yet ruthless, heartless, despotic, blunt and undiplomatic Mitt” :)…. The lib media cognitive dissonance must have reached abysmal depths….

jimver on July 30, 2012 at 1:54 PM

Truth About Obama Confirmed AGAIN Year AFTER White House Insider First Told Us…

by Ulsterman on July 30, 2012

ITguy on July 30, 2012 at 1:55 PM

The book also reveals that Valerie Jarret was advising George Bush for
7 years.

verbaluce on July 30, 2012 at 1:55 PM

Looks like Jarrett is calling the shots…..not good

cmsinaz on July 30, 2012 at 12:19 PM

Valerie Jarrett’s Father-in-Law Was a Communist – Worked With Obama Mentor Frank Marshall Davis

Flora Duh on July 30, 2012 at 2:01 PM

Jarrett has Obama’s left nut and the Mooch has his right nut.

Wigglesworth on July 30, 2012 at 2:02 PM

“President Barack Obama canceled the operation to kill Osama bin Laden on three separate occasions…”

Will the REAL WIMP please stand up !

TeaPartyNation on July 30, 2012 at 2:04 PM

Given the lawyer-written directive regarding the mission, it was full of CYA for the Commander-in-Chief.

Which would give a lot of credence to Miniter’s version.

And since when is a political adviser to the president giving advice about whether to hit OBL or not?

GarandFan on July 30, 2012 at 2:07 PM

The bottom line: Obama hears stuff like this all day: “Barack, you are a star! You are the greatest President in all the universe! Which is why I know you will want to do x, y, z…!”

And he does what he hears them say to do (or not to do).

nitzsche on July 30, 2012 at 2:07 PM

One must wonder if Obama made the call on the 4th time or did Valerie Jarret finally give the OK? So much for Obama’s decisive action and when we elect a president we expect him/her to lead. Not ask permission from somebody not elected to any office.

Herb on July 30, 2012 at 2:14 PM

novaculus on July 30, 2012 at 1:36 PM

Very well said, Nova. Excellent points. I think the fact is that Obama told the truth when he declared himself to be ‘a blank slate… an empty vessel’. He is the tool by which these women, and other individuals within the progressive movement, realized, and exercise, power.

I also agree with you that this is a facet of the Obama presidency that must be explored and revealed fully. I also agree that Jarret and Obama’s prime motivation is ALWAYS how Obama appears in the public eye.

It seems to me that if we are seriously going to ask where the security leaks originated in the White House, we have to ask who had access to the most sensitive intelligence material and why. WHY would Jarret be privy to this kind of intelligence in the first place?

There is a REASON that certain intelligence is generally reserved for ONLY the joint chiefs and heads of intelligence. BECAUSE there is a potential for leaks, leaks that could be severely damaging, even devastating, to our interests. Leaks motivated by OTHER INTERESTS than national security.

For Obama to be so weak that he needs to breech security protocols in order to be ‘advised’ by a woman with no background or experience in national security matters, military tactics or strategy, or intelligence operations, is a matter of grave importance.

It begs the question: What other areas, what other information, has he ceded to unqualified advisers who have other interests?

thatsafactjack on July 30, 2012 at 2:23 PM

Osama bin-Laden is gone and mostly forgotten. This book won’t make much difference (Of course, Obama’s “I got bin-Laden” schtick won’t work either). Then there’s the problem that, so far, no one has gone on the record to confirm these allegations. Until that happens, you’ve got nothing.

Mahna Mahna on July 30, 2012 at 2:24 PM

For him, the gutsy call was defying Valerie Jarrett, his boss.

burt on July 30, 2012 at 2:24 PM

The truth is, Obama never made the call. Gates, Clinton, and Panetta were fed up with Obama’s non-commital and made the call themselves. Do you think that Obama would have to be pulled from the golf course that day if he actually knew this was going down …
DoS_Conservative on July 30, 2012 at 12:54 PM

Rinse, repeat.

The man who supposedly made that “gutsy call” in truth had absolutely nothing to do with it.

creeper on July 30, 2012 at 2:25 PM

I like this cover better:

https://p.twimg.com/AzElhRICcAAYnKU.jpg

crosspatch on July 30, 2012 at 2:27 PM

And what’s left for Hillary?? :).. Ok, I really don’t wanna know :)….

jimver on July 30, 2012 at 2:33 PM

I love that pic ! Pizza delivery buy obie hangin around for the money shot.

Was he really in the room though…….awfully tiny head-even for Odoofus.

FlaMurph on July 30, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Hmmm, You’d think they have better photoshoppers in he WH :)…

jimver on July 30, 2012 at 2:34 PM

I would warn against putting any faith in the writings of Ulsterman and his “mole”.

NukeRidingCowboy on July 30, 2012 at 2:35 PM

Valerie Jarrett is the real president.

That’s mortifying.

Right Mover on July 30, 2012 at 12:22 PM

And Huma Abedin is Secretary of State. So the MB/Islam has first dibs on everything.

Interesting times.

BL@KBIRD on July 30, 2012 at 2:49 PM

The man who supposedly made that “gutsy call” in truth had absolutely nothing to do with it.

creeper on July 30, 2012 at 2:25 PM

Well…no.
You though really did have absolutely nothing to do with it – and have absolutely no idea what your talking about.
But you share that with my of the posters here as well as many others out there in the peanut gallery.
Some of them even write books.

verbaluce on July 30, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Obama is portrayed as not only falsely taking credit for the decision to go after bin Laden, but as an obstacle to getting bin Laden, unduly influenced by Jarrett, and eventually outmaneuvered by his own staff in order to get the job done.

If it gets traction, it not only challenges the Obama narrative about getting bin Laden, it raises much broader questions about his entirely fabricated personal history and ultimately about his capability to act as Commander in Chief.

novaculus on July 30, 2012 at 1:26 PM

I was having trouble getting my gut reaction into words, and there you’ve done it.

From your keyboard to Romney’s ears.

Good post, the whole thing.

petefrt on July 30, 2012 at 2:58 PM

Valerie Jarrett is the real president.

That’s mortifying.

Right Mover on July 30, 2012 at 12:22 PM

Reminds me of Bill Paxton”s line in Aliens ………..

“Let’s put her in charge!”

fogw on July 30, 2012 at 3:05 PM

That leaves us essentially where we were before Miniter’s revelation.

No it doesn’t. The onus is now on Obama to explain why the mission was scrubbed 3 times. And yes, it does matter – as Obama proved when his White House divulged state secrets in order to exploit the issue.

Basilsbest on July 30, 2012 at 3:07 PM

PolAgnostic on July 30, 2012 at 12:45 PM

If that is an accurate accounting of events Ed should have waited to comment.

NotCoach on July 30, 2012 at 1:03 PM

.
The Washington Insider piece I linked and posted the first 2 of 6 pages (on the first page of comments) was derided by the Washington establishment with the primary denunciation coming from the White House. No surprise there because it slams the SCOAMF and Valerie Jarret as Spineless Chipmunks quivering at the shadows of possible downsides.

What was far more telling about the Washington Insider piece was the timing of its publication. If you click the link, you’ll note the article was published on May 3, 2012. In the timeline of stories after the announcementof OBL’s death, this article came out subsequent to the “Obama and White House National Security Team SUCCESS!” stories that were PUSHED at the media in the hours immediately after the announcement.

It was a REACTIVE leak in response to the White House Team taking the lion’s share of the credit for the kill. WHEN the Washington Insider article was published, the White House Team suddenly started backing off from claiming the spotlight and the MSM focused more on Panetta’s overall role in taking OBL down INCLUDING making very clear that NO ONE in the White House Situation room was in direct contact with or had control over Seal Team Six at any point in the operation.

Watching things unfold at the time. I took particular note of the Washington Insider piece’s timing in the whole and bookmarked it for later assessment. When the focus shifted to Panetta – I was fairly confident a day would come when having the link stored away would prove useful.

If you can’t give a STUMP speech you have deliverd 50 times before without a teleprompter, you are not some SUPERIOR human being able to make steely eyed decsions.

You’re just a SCOAMF.

PolAgnostic on July 30, 2012 at 3:13 PM

Jarrett has Obama’s left nut and the Mooch has his right nut.

Wigglesworth on July 30, 2012 at 2:02 PM

And what’s left for Hillary? :)… Ok, you don’t need to state it out loud :)

jimver on July 30, 2012 at 3:33 PM

I would warn against putting any faith in the writings of Ulsterman and his “mole”.

A great deal of what Ulsterman and his insiders predicted would happen eventually came true, and continue to be proven true over time.
Ulsterman’s blog foretold of Daley leaving as Chief of Staff months and months before it actually happened.

But, you know, if you want to trust the truth-tellers at the always credible alphabet networks and dismiss everything in the blogosphere out of hand, go right and tell yourself that’s the way to go.

Right Mover on July 30, 2012 at 3:35 PM

verbaluce on July 30, 2012 at 2:54 PM

You’re doing an even less effective and more incoherent job of carrying the sociopath-in-chief’s water than usual today.

Right Mover on July 30, 2012 at 3:39 PM

There were leaks at the time about Obama being closeted with Jarrett throughout. And one claimed the reason Obama was on the golf course and had to be called back was that once he gave the OK, Panetta avoided telling him the mission was a go until they were past the point of no return – because he was afraid Obama would change his mind.

Of course, the diehard hopey-changey fans will believe Obama is strong and courageous, but face it: they will swallow just about anything.

Adjoran on July 30, 2012 at 3:48 PM

A great deal of what Ulsterman and his insiders predicted would happen eventually came true, and continue to be proven true over time.
Ulsterman’s blog foretold of Daley leaving as Chief of Staff months and months before it actually happened.

If you make enough safe predictions, sooner or later, some of them will come true. A chief of staff leaving isn’t exactly an earth-shattering event and it’s not a terribly risky prediction, especially given Daley’s disposition. However, if you have a list of predictions he made- those that came out right and wrong- I’d be interested to see them.

His writings raised my BS meter because they seem designed to flatter Obama’s critics. The dirt is so juicy it emanates a “too good to be true” vibe. We would see this exact sort of thing from the other side with a President Romney.

But, you know, if you want to trust the truth-tellers at the always credible alphabet networks and dismiss everything in the blogosphere out of hand, go right and tell yourself that’s the way to go.

Right Mover on July 30, 2012 at 3:35 PM

For the record, ever since the 2008 election, I get most of my news from the blogosphere and I’m better informed for it (or at least more accurately informed).

NukeRidingCowboy on July 30, 2012 at 3:53 PM

Yes, because it takes real guts to sit at the small chair. Never do I grow tired of laughing at this picture. Funny! LOL!

Bmore on July 30, 2012 at 3:53 PM

Some democratic insider will expose Obama as a incompetent boob after he’s out of the White House.

Where’s the patriot who will do it now?

I don’t know if the country can survive another four years of this pantywaist.

hepcat on July 30, 2012 at 4:02 PM

The loons in control of the commie Democrat Party do not care what Obama does regard the job of Pres. and Commander in Chief.

They only care about ACLU rulings going their way, EPA getting its way 100%, the dole getting larger for more, the DOJ getting even for slavery, the commie way of national health care being under the control of the IRS and the gun running to cause control via Fast and Furious to stay covered up.

In fact he could piss on the Pres.’s seal and they would squeel and laugh.

It is what it is.
We will have to deal with it.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on July 30, 2012 at 4:11 PM

novaculus on July 30, 2012 at 1:26 PM

You know that and I know that and most of us here know that, but what of the Dancing with the Stars watchers with the attention spans of gnats?

I don’t disagree with you at all, in fact agree completely, but just believe that this will be too complicated for a lot of people and they’ll go back to their sitcoms.

Which is how we are in this position in the first place. I hope I’m wrong.

kim roy on July 30, 2012 at 4:18 PM

A fight about the economy? Ed is ready and willing to pick that one up, and routinely does.

The rest are probably just grateful that OBL has had justice delivered unto him, but care more about jobs and the economy than a 15-months-dead terrorist mastermind.

ted c on July 30, 2012 at 12:23 PM

Outside of the one disconnected mention of the economy, this piece wasn’t about that; it was about Obama’s leadership and whether or not he deferred judgement to Valarie Jarrett as claimed by the book.

Ed seemed to imply that that particular detail was unremarkable. As a Marine Corps veteran, I disagree. Leaders need to show leadership. The net result of their action or inaction should not be the entirety of how leaders are judged.

BKeyser on July 30, 2012 at 4:19 PM

Valerie Jarrett is the real president.

That’s mortifying.

Right Mover on July 30, 2012 at 12:22 PM

And Huma Abedin is Secretary of State. So the MB/Islam has first dibs on everything.

Interesting times.

BL@KBIRD on July 30, 2012 at 2:49 PM

Which is being buried along with Michelle Bachmann. It seems that not even Hot Gas wants to take that one on. I wonder why?

kim roy on July 30, 2012 at 4:20 PM

Let’s play “Where’s Audrey Tomason?” Is she cut out of the picture for a reason? (Maybe it’s jut normal ‘croppage’?) Earlier versions of this photo had her peering over a shoulder. (FYI – She’s probably the most evil person in the world.)

xmanvietnam on July 30, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Why so? Is it her rumored masters thesis?

MTF on July 30, 2012 at 4:23 PM

My bet is eventually this will be documented.

petefrt on July 30, 2012 at 1:04 PM

If any of them cracks

IMHO OBL was stored in a box labeled ‘Open in case of political need’

The WH crowd is not genius, just cold blooded. Kinda like the average Marxist ideologue. The Soviet Socialist history is packed with counter productive decisions that made governing very expensive and life more difficult even fr the elite class

Even if certain persons prodded Obama to ‘make the call’ they waited so long there is no way to read anything but politics into their prodding

entagor on July 30, 2012 at 4:24 PM

Is this the same Valerie Jarret who was a buddy of Tony Rezko ??

Say it ain’t so.

FlaMurph on July 30, 2012 at 4:27 PM

Obama’s supporters will continue to think this was a gutsy call for which Obama deserves credit

Most of them can not possibly be so stupid as to actually believe that. They say it, but I really doubt they believe it.

VorDaj on July 30, 2012 at 4:36 PM

verbaluce on July 30, 2012 at 2:54 PM

You should really wear a bib so you can wipe your mouth.

Commie Chicago twit wears the pants in that collective.

RovesChins on July 30, 2012 at 4:36 PM

You’re doing an even less effective and more incoherent job of carrying the sociopath-in-chief’s water than usual today.

Right Mover on July 30, 2012 at 3:39 PM

I’m just not drinking from the same poised well you frequent.
‘Sociopath-in-chief’?
And you wonder why nobody will listen to you anymore…

verbaluce on July 30, 2012 at 4:37 PM

This will be a great book for the GOP Ayatollahs who RELY on the fact that their terrified minions of conservative slaves remain more scared of Obama – and less critical of the GOP establishment.

The operation was successful and we always gave BUSH the credit for the success of his military. Remember? “He’s kept us safe …” … “We’ve had no more attacks!” …

And the Libby’s got all upset when we said that and started to nit-pick the situation … but the bottom line is, we had no more attacks on Bush’s watch – and he should get the credit for that.

And so should Obama get credit for killing Osama – as much as any CINC deserves. No, he didn’t risk his life but if those SEALS had lost their lives – he’d have gotten the blame (just like Jimmy Carter got the blame for his failed military excursion into Iran). If we’d ended up engaging Paki troops and killing civilians – everyone would have blamed Obama and said he was unwise to green light the mission – or that he should have reviewed the pitfalls more thouroughly.

Damn sure – not a GO***AN Conservative Slave on this blog would have BLAMED the Navy SEALS for failing in this mission – you’d have all blamed Obama!

So OWN THIS – you’re behaving just as the Libby’s did when Bush was given credit for his successes. You THINK theres a lot a difference between you and the Dkos crowd? Heh – this proves the gulf between you isn’t so wide.

Take a loooong look in the mirror chumps!

HondaV65 on July 30, 2012 at 4:39 PM

Is this the same Valerie Jarret who was a buddy of Tony Rezko ??

Say it ain’t so.

FlaMurph on July 30, 2012 at 4:27 PM

No doubt. Valerie Jarrett was the Chairman of the Board of the Chicago hospital that gave Moochie her $400,000 a year sinecure when little Bammie became Illinois state senator.

slickwillie2001 on July 30, 2012 at 4:40 PM

Which is being buried along with Michelle Bachmann. It seems that not even Hot Gas wants to take that one on. I wonder why?

kim roy on July 30, 2012 at 4:20 PM

Muslims represent no more than about 1% or so of the U.S. population. They subscribe to Islam. In the last 30-40 years Islam has caused this country one heartache after another with all the bombings, murders and the monumental attack on 9/11. And of course the the endless and pointless ground wars we have allowed ourselves to be sucked into. With that kind of record one would think that the ethnic/religios group connected to it, especially a group as small as the U.S. Muslim population would be so shamed, mortified and humbled that they would go into seclusion. Not Muslims and not their PR machine CAIR. What’s the first thing they did after 9/11? They proposed building a huge mosque at Ground Zero. CAIR immediately went on the attack and began firing their all-purpose invective “Islamophobia” at anyone who objected to this mind numbing insult. They almost succeeded and the fact that so many people who should have known better took their side just shows how far down the rabbit hole we have gone. CAIR and their Muslim Brotherhood bosses know this, they are encouraged by it, and they intend to take full advantage of it. Our best defense is to fill Congress with Michelle Bachmann clones.

RasThavas on July 30, 2012 at 4:40 PM

And you wonder why nobody will listen to you anymore…

verbaluce on July 30, 2012 at 4:37 PM

We all still listen to him. Nobody listened to you from the get-go.

kingsjester on July 30, 2012 at 4:40 PM

Nothing is as it seems with this barrack Hussein:

First black, first half black is in reality the
FIRST FEMALE PRESIDENT!

ConcealedKerry on July 30, 2012 at 4:40 PM

HondaV65 on July 30, 2012 at 4:39 PM

Blah blah blah. You conservatives.
Blah blah blah. suck.
Blah blah blah.
Stop dry humping that Obama blow up doll and vote for him already.

RovesChins on July 30, 2012 at 4:43 PM

Take a loooong look in the mirror chumps!

HondaV65 on July 30, 2012 at 4:39 PM

Who the hell is this? One bastard goes in, another one comes out.

RasThavas on July 30, 2012 at 4:45 PM

I wonder how this will play with all those rough, tough union goons who spent much of last fall trying to intimidate little old ladies in Wisco and Ohio? Dear Leader is whussy pipped!

A seriously expose needs to be done on Ms Jarrett, niow that we know who runs the country. The people want to know. And we want to see ten years of her tax records, too!

Kenz on July 30, 2012 at 5:08 PM

No doubt. Valerie Jarrett was the Chairman of the Board of the Chicago hospital that gave Moochie her $400,000 a year sinecure when little Bammie became Illinois state senator.

slickwillie2001 on July 30, 2012 at 4:40 PM

Ah! I didn’t know that. Thank you.

a capella on July 30, 2012 at 5:09 PM

As has been noted, Obama did not make the call until he was guaranteed deniability. The resposibility for the go/not go was assumed by Admiral McRaven, who would have taken the blame for any failure. In that case it would have been painted as a rogue operation and Adm McRaven’s career would have been over. He accepted this and the operation went on. Obama’s cabinet officials understood he would never make the call otherwise.

In all respects this episode was identical to the Somali pirate crisis early in Obama’s Presidency. Somali pirates took over an American tanker and took the Captain hostage. They threatened to kill him unless their demands were met. The nearest Navy vessel was the USS Bainbridge which was equipped with snipers. Over the course of several days Obama temporized, saying force could be used if the Captain’s life was in danger.Finally the Captain of the Bainbridge made the call, deciding that the Captain’s life was in danger as he had guns pointed at him. The snipers took out the pirates, the crisis was ended, Obama got the credit. Had the rescue ended badly the Captain of the Bainbridge would have had the blame and Obama would have disassociated himself from the decision and the Captain’s career would have ended.

This is our CIC. Taking credit for the decisions of braver men.

str8tface on July 30, 2012 at 5:18 PM

“. . .claims that Obama refused to give the green light three times before finally giving the go-ahead

Wanna bet this in one intelligence leak that was NOT authorized from the Oval Office?

Siddhartha Vicious on July 30, 2012 at 5:19 PM

Who the hell is this? One bastard goes in, another one comes out.

RasThavas on July 30, 2012 at 4:45 PM

He is a troll who has the religious fever for all the SCOAMF he can get.

He avoids inconvenient truths – like how outraged most conservatives were with W’s leaving our troops “sitting in place” to die while the diplomats tried negotiating a settlement with Al-Qaeda in Iraq and Iran for two years.

His worshipping also blinds him to the peril of indecision and incompetence.

How bad is he?

I stopped my liberal niece in her tracks yesterday when I reminded her that we grew up in the Cold War era and always lived under the M.A.D. threat until we were adults – but her two kids in my pool at the time (the eldest is 19) have NEVER known that feeling … but the Obama administration’s attempt to reset the relationship with a Mafia nation state (which she freey acknowledges Russia to be) and the nation which to this day crushes dissent the same way they did in Tianemen Square have brought us back to the precipice of a Second Cold War.

I asked, “Is that what you want for them?”

Her clear answer, “No.”

PolAgnostic on July 30, 2012 at 5:23 PM

“. . .claims that Obama refused to give the green light three times before finally giving the go-ahead

Wanna bet this in one intelligence leak that was NOT authorized from the Oval Office?

Siddhartha Vicious on July 30, 2012 at 5:19 PM

Using intelligence leaks to create false narratives that support political agendas has consequences.

Among those consequences is creating anger among those who know the real story and who deserve the real credit. Another is reducing the motivation on the part of others who hold classified information but have different agendas to respect the rules, when they see the rules repeatedly violated in service of Obama’s crass political agendas.

novaculus on July 30, 2012 at 5:29 PM

You’re doing an even less effective and more incoherent job of carrying the sociopath-in-chief’s water than usual today.

Right Mover on July 30, 2012 at 3:39 PM

I’m just not drinking from the same poised well you frequent.
‘Sociopath-in-chief’?

And you wonder why nobody will listen to you anymore…

verbaluce on July 30, 2012 at 4:37 PM

I always try to drink from dishevelled wells.

Del Dolemonte on July 30, 2012 at 5:30 PM

in the end UBL was killed.

ted c on July 30, 2012 at 12:15 PM

fifm

ted c on July 30, 2012 at 12:15 PM

..I thought he was taken out with a head shot. Doesn’t the Mafia do it this way? Musta hurt.

The War Planner on July 30, 2012 at 5:35 PM

He didn’t do it on his own, he had some help.

Wagthatdog on July 30, 2012 at 5:40 PM

Valerie Jarrett – the power behind the power behind the throne.

It does make one wonder why she didn’t want OBL taken down. I mean the guy couldn’t have her phone number on a laptop, now, could he? So why counsel against going after him? She is no military expert, not a foreign policy expert… so why defer to her on this?

Am I glad OBL was taken out? Yes.

And if it would have taken a tacnuke to make sure of the job, then I could see some fudging. No one was making the tacnuke case, so why the fudging? I doubt that Jarrett is an expert in small unit tactics, CQB or anything dealing with such a mission… not even weather as the armed forces have some pretty interesting capabilities in the worst of weather. Why leave such a person alive? He did declare war on us… all of us… and given the organization that is not an idle threat.

It isn’t the weakness of Obama that is worrying – he bows and scrapes more than is seemly for any man to foreign leaders – it is worrying that Jarrett would NOT want OBL taken out, multiple times.

That is the worrying part.

Just what is up with that?

ajacksonian on July 30, 2012 at 6:01 PM

What the hell sort of military or international affairs chops does this Valerie Jarret have?

None.

She is Assistant to the President for Public Engagement. [IOW, she is all about his public perception and publicity.]

But, she is calling the shots?

coldwarrior on July 30, 2012 at 12:08 PM

I think this is a critical piece of information which needs to be in the main article.

On three different occasions a chance arose to take down OBL and on each occasion it seems Obama ignored the advice of the professionals at hand and instead did what his PR person told him to- and each time the risk existed that OBL might move again and be lost. Clearly Obama didn’t delay the op for military or intelligence reasons, he did it on the say so of one of his Chicago cronies.

President Present strikes again.

Jay Mac on July 30, 2012 at 6:02 PM

And you wonder why nobody will listen to you anymore…

verbaluce on July 30, 2012 at 4:37 PM

Oh, so in addition to being a narrow-minded, Obama-fellating acolyte, you are a mind-reading troll who can divine what I “wonder,” too?

Here’s a clue. When you talk about wondering why nobody listens to what someone has to say, you are doing something known as projection. Not that I expect you to have the self-awareness to know what that is, but it’s one thing the shallowest water-carriers of the left have perfected.

Right Mover on July 30, 2012 at 6:37 PM

verbaluce, you’re funny…not in a good way.

CW on July 30, 2012 at 6:47 PM

…Which is being buried along with Michelle Bachmann. It seems that not even Hot Gas wants to take that one on. I wonder why?

kim roy on July 30, 2012 at 4:20 PM

Hot Gas is not a news site. The writers write about whatever strikes their personal fancy and/or will get hits. You want news headlines Drudge is still the most reliable.

slickwillie2001 on July 30, 2012 at 7:42 PM

About that photo – I don’t think Barry’s image was inserted from another source. I’ve noted for some time whenever he is next to someone, his head is always visibly smaller. Hat size probably about 5. Small cranium, small brain. I’m still waiting to see those stellar SAT scores and grades to confirm the Left’s claims about the most brilliant ever.

USN Corpseman on July 30, 2012 at 8:06 PM

About that photo – I don’t think Barry’s image was inserted from another source. I’ve noted for some time whenever he is next to someone, his head is always visibly smaller. Hat size probably about 5. Small cranium, small brain. I’m still waiting to see those stellar SAT scores and grades to confirm the Left’s claims about the most brilliant ever.

USN Corpseman on July 30, 2012 at 8:06 PM

Could be. Probably poor nutrition, pre and post-natal, mother probably experimenting with psychedelics and good old booze.

slickwillie2001 on July 30, 2012 at 8:31 PM

It kind of matters. It was sold to the public as Obama making a bold decision on the fly. If it was actually something he’d been mulling as a potential for weeks, and had actually pussed out on several times previously, that would render it a bit of a deceptive sell.

Blacklake on July 30, 2012 at 8:54 PM

I think obozo was on the golf course and, after the third cancellation, Panetta said go get bin Laden, then dragged obozo’s skinny azz off the golf course and threw him on a chair in the corner and told him to sit there and shut up. The guy has such a deer-in-the-headlights look, I almost feel sorry for him. Almost.

Xyz22 on July 30, 2012 at 9:13 PM

It doesn’t bother me whether Obama himself made the call or his team.
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Bush personally squashed any real attempt to get Obama. John Loftus has the proof that the Bush administration directly foiled efforts to get him earlier.
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I’m conservative and anything is better than Obama but unfortunately his team gets the credit for this one.

FactsofLife on July 30, 2012 at 9:17 PM

Small Chair! *pointing and laughing*

Bmore on July 30, 2012 at 9:53 PM

I think most people will see what they want to see. If you support him, then you will say he was prudently cautious and it paid off because we got OBL anyway. If you don’t support him, then he doesn’t want to make decisions because ultimately he’s responsible if it fails and there’s no one else to blame but he only did because he was forced to.

yongoro on July 30, 2012 at 10:24 PM

My thoughts:

1) Hilary Clinton looks far more presidential than Obama during this event, taking her job seriously and working with Panetta and Daley to convince Obama to make the call

2) No wonder Obama has so much time for gold and fundraisers, he’s not meeting with anyone or making any decisions

3) It’s absolutely disgusting that he chose to endanger a SEAL Team instead of dropping a bomb, for political expediency. Disgusting.

Common Sense on July 30, 2012 at 11:12 PM

Somewhere in Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals their must be this:
When you are forced kicking and dragging to do that which you loathe doing – do it and then claim credit.

Bill Clinton read that when he signed in that welfare reform act.

Romney in Massachusetts did a lot of….well, we won’t go there.

Don L on July 31, 2012 at 6:43 AM

Some democratic insider will expose Obama as a incompetent boob after he’s out of the White House.

Where’s the patriot who will do it now?…..

hepcat on July 30, 2012 at 4:02 PM

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The thought occurred to me also. Have they all sold their souls?

diogenes on July 31, 2012 at 9:43 AM

Oh Barry (swoon) WHAT a hunk of man. Can I feel your muscles, please? Tell me, again, how you heroically sat in your air conditioned office, and sent others in to do the job on Obama, whoops, I mean Osama. I always get you two confused. Oh, and be careful that you don’t sprain your arm, patting yourself on the back. What a doofus.

uncle_fweddy on July 31, 2012 at 11:47 AM

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