Report: GOP investigation finds five top ATF officials responsible for Fast & Furious

posted at 10:01 pm on July 30, 2012 by Allahpundit

Fearless prediction: Whatever happens on election day, we’re going to have ourselves a new Attorney General next year. Obama wouldn’t dump him before for fear of looking weak by caving to GOP pressure, but if he wins in November, he’ll have a perfect excuse. Just normal administration turnover; all presidents do it. No need to read anything into it just because this particular turnover involved a guy who oversaw guns being walked to Mexican drug lords.

Note well: This is only the first of three reports to come.

Republican congressional investigators have concluded that five senior ATF officials — from the special agent-in-charge of the Phoenix field office to the top man in the bureau’s Washington headquarters — are collectively responsible for the failed Fast and Furious gun-tracking operation that was “marred by missteps, poor judgments and inherently reckless strategy.”

The investigators, in a final report likely to be released later this week, also unearthed new evidence that agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives in Phoenix initially sought to hide from the Mexican government the crucial information that two Fast and Furious firearms were recovered after the brother of a Mexican state attorney general was killed there

Two more final reports, they said, will deal with “the devastating failure of supervision and leadership” at the Department of Justice and an “unprecedented obstruction of the [congressional] investigation by the highest levels of the Justice Department, including the attorney general himself.”

Follow the link for more, including the names of the five DOJ/ATF officials who are most culpable. Holder isn’t one of them but, per the excerpt, he’s set for a starring role in one of the next two reports to come about DOJ obstruction. The point of this leak, I assume, is to give Obama one last chance to drop his executive privilege claim over the DOJ documents that Issa wants to see. (The LAT quotes the report as saying it’s based on “the best information available as of now.”) If he does that, then the report will be held back while GOP investigators go through the new evidence. If he doesn’t do it, then the GOP can argue that there must be nothing in those e-mails that exculpates any of the five guys they’ve named. Your move, champ.


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Resignation?

Bmore on July 30, 2012 at 10:03 PM

Response for?

tom daschle concerned on July 30, 2012 at 10:03 PM

Is that supposed to be “Responsible For”?

Dunedainn on July 30, 2012 at 10:04 PM

Biased GOP report
-lsm
*sweep under the rug*

cmsinaz on July 30, 2012 at 10:07 PM

No need to read anything into it just because this particular turnover involved a guy who oversaw guns being walked to Mexican drug lords.

Allah, I never offer corrections (even though the title I think needs a word goosed). But shouldn’t this sentence also have a “wink, wink” at the end?

hawkdriver on July 30, 2012 at 10:07 PM

A little game of Texas Holdem’. The Bamster is going all in my friends.
He’s got nothing to fear because he knows the election is lost and Mittens is not going to do anything about it after he’s gone. Count it. Those documents will never see the light of day and nobody will be held accountable.

LeftCoastRight on July 30, 2012 at 10:07 PM

Much ado about nothing.

Love,

President Obama’s Lapdog MSM and Libtards everywhere

FlatFoot on July 30, 2012 at 10:07 PM

That was quick. ; )

Bmore on July 30, 2012 at 10:08 PM

Racist!

HB3 on July 30, 2012 at 10:08 PM

another DOJ oopsie Allah

cmsinaz on July 30, 2012 at 10:08 PM

Allah, I never offer corrections (even though the title I think needs a word goosed). But shouldn’t this sentence also have a “wink, wink” at the end?

hawkdriver on July 30, 2012 at 10:07 PM

Lol!

Bmore on July 30, 2012 at 10:09 PM

I have a feeling the fifth step of the Chicago way is going to kick in real soon. First 4: Lie, Stonewall, Deflect, Blame. Step 5 usually involves someone dying.

nobar on July 30, 2012 at 10:09 PM

Top ATF officials do not have the power to direct personnel and funding from the Department of Justice, Homeland Security, the FBI, the State Department, and the CIA…

… only one person has that power under our Constitution.

Seven Percent Solution on July 30, 2012 at 10:10 PM

If this whole thing started at ATF, why would the president claim executive privilige?

newportmike on July 30, 2012 at 10:10 PM

It’s funny how F & Furious is having so little impact.
I personally have tried to get to the heart of it, but in my own mind it’s a bit foggy. We need something that really sticks out, is succinct and hard hitting, to make the point easy to digest; and that point must be very negative for O or it’s not even worth our effort.. at this point. Stick to the out of control govt, the long-term economy, gay militancy, runaway illegal immigration, and other issues. We need to start triage on picking the most salient and important issues to beat like a drum.

anotherJoe on July 30, 2012 at 10:10 PM

Bmore on July 30, 2012 at 10:03 PM

A resignation is unlikely; Holder knows where too many bodies are buried. Besides he isn’t any more likely to resign than Obama is to give up his office. DHS and the Army have been buying up riot gear. A declaration of a ‘national emergency’ and a suspension of elections and investigations is becoming a distinct possibility.

ghostwalker1 on July 30, 2012 at 10:11 PM

Then there is this report of Obama interfering on behalf of the black panthers
http://washingtonexaminer.com/federal-court-finds-obama-appointees-interfered-with-new-black-panther-prosecution/article/2503500
and also, Obama’s and Clintons’ relatives visit USA ” from time to time” from mehico
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/janet-napolitano-says-members-of-terrorist-groups-enter-u-s-from-mexico-from-time-to-time/
his policies are working !! We need 4 more decades of Hussein+Holder+Nappy

burrata on July 30, 2012 at 10:13 PM

Fearless prediction: Whatever happens on election day, we’re going to have ourselves a new Attorney General next year.

Holder may have enough dirt on Obama to keep this from happening. True, Obama wouldn’t have to worry about re-election anymore, but if the dirt was of impeachment-level grade, that may protect Holder from getting a pink slip.

Bitter Clinger on July 30, 2012 at 10:14 PM

newportmike on July 30, 2012 at 10:10 PM

ding ding ding…

but, why doesn’t mitt show us his tax returns???
-erin burnett tonight…

she’s still harping on that
*shaking the head*

cmsinaz on July 30, 2012 at 10:14 PM

Team Obama isn’t gonna be happy.

Too bad!

GarandFan on July 30, 2012 at 10:15 PM

A game of Texas Holdem’ and the Bamster is all in. He knows he’s toast this November. He also knows Mittens will do nothing about this and the documents will never see the light of day.

LeftCoastRight on July 30, 2012 at 10:15 PM

Heres comes the Bus……………………

canopfor on July 30, 2012 at 10:15 PM

Fearless prediction: Whatever happens on election day, we’re going to have ourselves a new Attorney General next year. Obama wouldn’t dump him before for fear of looking weak by caving to GOP pressure, but if he wins in November, he’ll have a perfect excuse. Just normal administration turnover; all presidents do it. No need to read anything into it just because this particular turnover involved a guy who oversaw guns being walked to Mexican drug lords.

and Holder will get a pardon regardless.

SouthernGent on July 30, 2012 at 10:15 PM

“Fast and Furious” “Murder and Mendacity”: Eric Holder’s and Barack Obama’s rolling 9/11 against Mexico.

Time to call Josh Randall

VorDaj on July 30, 2012 at 10:16 PM

Holder is a small minded, nasty, arrogant, biased, bigoted, inept tool who, though responsible for hundreds of deaths, sneers at those who demand his resignation. If there is any justice in this world ( there is little enough in the so called Department of Justice) losing his job should precede losing his freedom.

natasha333 on July 30, 2012 at 10:16 PM

I see Obama summoning Holder to the office and telling him outright to resign.

The official story will be that Holder chose to resign rather than be a burden to Obama so close to the election.

The One will likely rescind that EO…if the trail of culpability doesn’t lead directly to his own door…. thus throwing Holder under his campaign bus.

Holder with throw in one of is signature claims that he is being persecuted as a proxy for Obama.

If Obama refuses to rescind the EO… I think its pretty clear that he, and/or Jarret, had communication with Holder on this issue.

thatsafactjack on July 30, 2012 at 10:17 PM

Did Hillary ever get back to Connie…?

Seven Percent Solution on July 30, 2012 at 10:17 PM

another DOJ oopsie Allah

cmsinaz on July 30, 2012 at 10:08 PM

cmsinaz:Very nice Intell grab,and I’m shocked..I tells ya!:)

canopfor on July 30, 2012 at 10:18 PM

The United States now is a country that has both a sitting President and a sitting Attorney General who are mass murderers.

VorDaj on July 30, 2012 at 10:20 PM

“… are collectively responsible for the failed Fast and Furious gun-tracking operation ….”

Pffft. It was a (mostly) successful gun-running operation. There was no intent to track the guns being run and the only reason it stopped was because someone ratted these b@st@rds out.

Dusty on July 30, 2012 at 10:20 PM

I have a feeling the fifth step of the Chicago way is going to kick in real soon. First 4: Lie, Stonewall, Deflect, Blame. Step 5 usually involves someone dying.

nobar on July 30, 2012 at 10:09 PM

You completely missed Bribe and go to prison.

Those should probably get worked in before the dying thing…

BigWyo on July 30, 2012 at 10:20 PM

canopfor on July 30, 2012 at 10:18 PM

indeed!

cmsinaz on July 30, 2012 at 10:20 PM

Calling Woodward & Bernstein … Hello …?

I guess a burglary staged by Nixon subordinates (in which nobody so much as sprained an ankle) does not compare to Holder’s scheme to create an outrage (requiring a whole lot of dead Mexicans, and an American border agent here and there) that would push popular opinion in the direction of tighter gun laws.

Or did Holder & Co. have some other reason for pouring American arms into the hands of Mexican narco-terrorists?

minnesoter on July 30, 2012 at 10:21 PM

have concluded that five senior ATF officials — from the special agent-in-charge of the Phoenix field office to the top man in the bureau’s Washington headquarters

Isn’t one of these cats the big Clinton-era kahuna with the hard-on for gun bans?

budfox on July 30, 2012 at 10:21 PM

ghostwalker1 on July 30, 2012 at 10:11 PM

Good point.

Bmore on July 30, 2012 at 10:21 PM

Seven Percent Solution on July 30, 2012 at 10:17 PM

hmmmm

cmsinaz on July 30, 2012 at 10:23 PM

Racist!

HB3 on July 30, 2012 at 10:08 PM

HB3:Speaking of racist thingy!
==============================

Just weeks after taking office,

Obama said,

“There was justifiable pride on the part of the country that we had taken a step to move us beyond some of the searing legacies of racial discrimination.”

Then he joked, “But that lasted about a day.”

Or, rather, three months.
=========================

http://news.yahoo.com/obama-era-race-relations-improved-122353820.html?_esi=1

canopfor on July 30, 2012 at 10:23 PM

The GOP didn’t build that case. The government did. Oh wait.

MrX on July 30, 2012 at 10:23 PM

and Holder will get a pardon regardless.

SouthernGent on July 30, 2012 at 10:15 PM

Not if they Impeach Holder.

Wait.

Check that.

John Bonehead is still speaker he has nothing between his legs but air.

Steveangell on July 30, 2012 at 10:23 PM

And I was just today feeling a little pissed off that Fast and Furious had fallen out of the news and the GOP seemed to be letting it go.

Mark1971 on July 30, 2012 at 10:24 PM

canopfor on July 30, 2012 at 10:18 PM

indeed!

cmsinaz on July 30, 2012 at 10:20 PM

cmsinaz:-0

canopfor on July 30, 2012 at 10:24 PM

Speaking of dirt..when is that nasty old bag Jarret going to get her long over due comeuppance??

BigWyo on July 30, 2012 at 10:24 PM

Meh. I wish I could get excited about this. I really do. But…

Talk to anyone who’s not a hardcore conservative political junkie – they’re actually pretty easy to find, the world’s full of ‘em. Ask them about F&F. “Fast and Furious? What’s that?”. It’s very hard to try to bring them up to speed on it without sounding like a raving nutter. Their normalcy bias doesn’t allow for it.

The complicit MSM has succeeded, at least this far, in keeping this out of the public eye. I don’t see what’ll keep them from doing it for just a few more months.

bofh on July 30, 2012 at 10:26 PM

‘What is this ‘ATF’ I keep hearing about?? I know I saw some memo with that in it but I really don’t know what that’s all about and I think you’re all cowards for bringing it up anyways.’

Eric Holder.

BigWyo on July 30, 2012 at 10:28 PM

It’s almost like they think we are going to forget how this all started…

Obama ordered operation Fast and Furious in March 2009, now lies about it to Congress

It’s simple…

You Can’t Handle The Truth

Seven Percent Solution on July 30, 2012 at 10:28 PM

Did Hillary ever get back to Connie…?

Seven Percent Solution on July 30, 2012 at 10:17 PM

Seven Percent Solution:If HilRod has heard of F@F ,and also has
gotten grilled over it,then I think,in
some fashion or form,most Dems have heard
about it!:)

canopfor on July 30, 2012 at 10:31 PM

agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives in Phoenix initially sought to hide from the Mexican government the crucial information that two Fast and Furious firearms were recovered after the brother of a Mexican state attorney general was killed there

…Brian Williams will be all over that…and Tingles and Madcow will be reporting how much the Mexican state attorney general hated his brother!

KOOLAID2 on July 30, 2012 at 10:31 PM

Seven Percent Solution on July 30, 2012 at 10:28 PM

good linky 7%

cmsinaz on July 30, 2012 at 10:32 PM

You Can’t Handle The Truth

Seven Percent Solution on July 30, 2012 at 10:28 PM

Seven Percent Solution:The buck,stops at Holder,er,Hopey?!:)

canopfor on July 30, 2012 at 10:33 PM

bofh on July 30, 2012 at 10:26 PM

Yeah, you’re probably right. But the day is coming when the MSM will pay the price for their misuse of power. There will be a backlash.

minnesoter on July 30, 2012 at 10:33 PM

Formal charges, trial, firing squad for all involved, including holder and mr.buck-stops-somewhere-else ogabe.

Wolfmoon on July 30, 2012 at 10:35 PM

There will be a backlash.

minnesoter on July 30, 2012 at 10:33 PM

from your keyboard…

cmsinaz on July 30, 2012 at 10:35 PM

Dog whistles.

Coded language.

Good Lt on July 30, 2012 at 10:35 PM

Fearless prediction: Whatever happens on election day, we’re going to have ourselves a new Attorney General next year.

I’m guessing the Mooch?
She is a lawyer , and a verrrrry brrrrilliant one too .

burrata on July 30, 2012 at 10:36 PM

Fast and Furious is a legit scandal that should be national news.
 
libfreeordie on December 8, 2011 at 4:53 PM

 

It is a legit scandal, its also completely run its course. Indeed, we all already know what happened… What more do we need to know?
 
libfreeordie on June 20, 2012 at 1:21 PM

 

Changing your mind doesn’t mean you misunderstand the meaning of your original words.
 
libfreeordie on July 30, 2012 at 9:08 PM

rogerb on July 30, 2012 at 10:37 PM

two Fast and Furious firearms were recovered after the brother of a Mexican state attorney general was killed there…

Report: Guns used in Mexico lawyer’s murder traced to Operation Fast and Furious

Flora Duh on July 30, 2012 at 10:39 PM

I would like to hear from a Mexican Prosecutor about possible charges against American officials for their violation of Mexican law.

Something beyond the reach of Obama’s Pardon Pen.

meci on July 30, 2012 at 10:40 PM

Holder is a small minded, nasty, arrogant, biased, bigoted, inept tool who, though responsible for hundreds of deaths, sneers at those who demand his resignation. If there is any justice in this world ( there is little enough in the so called Department of Justice) losing his job should precede losing his freedom.

natasha333 on July 30, 2012 at 10:16 PM

Very well said, Holder is a disgrace.

Fast and Furious is Watergate with a Body Count—that was what I submitted to a local paper. Of course they edited my title but did print my entire column.

Haven’t seen you post before, hope to see you posting more often :)

LevinFan on July 30, 2012 at 10:40 PM

Flora Duh on July 30, 2012 at 10:39 PM

and the hits just keep on comin’

cmsinaz on July 30, 2012 at 10:41 PM

I would like to hear from a Mexican Prosecutor about possible charges against American officials for their violation of Mexican law.

Something beyond the reach of Obama’s Pardon Pen.

meci on July 30, 2012 at 10:40 PM

Including obama and holder. I want so bad to see them where they deserve to be, in a skanky mexican prison, before their hanging that is.

Wolfmoon on July 30, 2012 at 10:41 PM

If Obama refuses to rescind the EO… I think its pretty clear that he, and/or Jarret, had communication with Holder on this issue.

thatsafactjack on July 30, 2012 at 10:17 PM

I think Obama is in on this in some way otherwise why would he have ever taken the political risk of doing the EO in the first place, especially during an election year?

LevinFan on July 30, 2012 at 10:42 PM

So Issa is using the Breitbart drip-drip-drip strategy? Neat.

dforston on July 30, 2012 at 10:42 PM

I still think it goes higher. Executive Privilege wasn’t used for just Holder.

gophergirl on July 30, 2012 at 10:44 PM

If HilRod has heard of F@F ,and also has
gotten grilled over it,then I think,in
some fashion or form,most Dems have heard
about it!:)

canopfor on July 30, 2012 at 10:31 PM

Flora Duh on July 30, 2012 at 10:39 PM

and the hits just keep on comin’

cmsinaz on July 30, 2012 at 10:41 PM

*clink*

*clink*

*clink*

:)

Seven Percent Solution on July 30, 2012 at 10:46 PM

This isn’t news. Don’t you racists know there’s a fast food company that publicizes its Christian values? And that Mitt Romney’s a Mormon and Mormons are weird?

Transpo on July 30, 2012 at 10:46 PM

Remember that Fast and Furious was an OCDETF program. It wasn’t run through normal BATFE chain of command but was directly supervised by DOJ through the Phoenix US Attorney Dennis Burke and his assistant Emory Hurley, who were supervising slimebag Newell’s activities.

These BATFE guys are just the tip of the iceberg.

novaculus on July 30, 2012 at 10:48 PM

I still think it goes higher. Executive Privilege wasn’t used for just Holder.

gophergirl on July 30, 2012 at 10:44 PM

Listen again to all of the agencies involved…

… “Under the President’s direction.”

Obama ordered operation Fast and Furious in March 2009, now lies about it to Congress

Holder and his lackies never had that power…

… only one person does, and he likes to play a lot of golf.

Seven Percent Solution on July 30, 2012 at 10:51 PM

Seven Percent Solution on July 30, 2012 at 10:46 PM

*clink*

cmsinaz on July 30, 2012 at 10:51 PM

If Republicans really want to amp up the pressure to make those DOJ emails materialize, the path forward is clear: Move to defund the ATF.

1.) Under threat of losing their cozy federal jobs, at least a few ATF careerists will leak the DOJ emails.

2.) Given our yawning federal deficit, is it really necessary to have a distinct federal agency charged with policing alcohol, tobacco, and firearms? Why can’t the FBI handle that?

The GOP should make it implicitly clear that the ATF can either throw Holder and DOJ overboard, or their agency can move into pole position on the federal chopping block in 2012.

Lawdawg86 on July 30, 2012 at 10:52 PM

*clink*

*clink*

*clink*

:)

Seven Percent Solution on July 30, 2012 at 10:46 PM

Seven Percent Solution:

The sound of a Canadian Tea cup…..*Le Clink*:)

canopfor on July 30, 2012 at 10:52 PM

Calling it early,Nite All,CMS,SPS,FD,GG,HawkDriver,anyone else
I missed—————–:)

canopfor on July 30, 2012 at 10:55 PM

canopfor on July 30, 2012 at 10:52 PM

oui :)

cmsinaz on July 30, 2012 at 10:55 PM

canopfor on July 30, 2012 at 10:55 PM

good night Big C :)

cmsinaz on July 30, 2012 at 10:56 PM

Eric Holder should already be in jail.

Obozo should be facing impeachment.

It’s inconceivable to me that law breaking of the severity involved here, is being covered up by the MSM and the democratic party. It speaks volumes, absolutely VOLUMES about what type of people they really are.

It’s disgusting, and I’m ashamed to call them fellow Americans.

KMC1 on July 30, 2012 at 10:56 PM

The DEA wants to get in on the act as well…

CPT. Charles on July 30, 2012 at 10:56 PM

I still think it goes higher. Executive Privilege wasn’t used for just Holder.

gophergirl on July 30, 2012 at 10:44 PM

Obama and Holder have to know the Executive Privilege dodge won’t protect the evidence subject to subpoena. It could just be a delaying tactic.

Or it could be that they are serious about using it to protect Kevin O’Reilly.

O’Reilly is the most likely White House connection to Fast and Furious. He might be the one guy outside of Holder, Napolitano, and Clinton who can tie Obama directly to knowledge of the operation.

novaculus on July 30, 2012 at 10:56 PM

A resignation is unlikely; Holder knows where too many bodies are buried. Besides he isn’t any more likely to resign than Obama is to give up his office. DHS and the Army have been buying up riot gear. A declaration of a ‘national emergency’ and a suspension of elections and investigations is becoming a distinct possibility.

ghostwalker1 on July 30, 2012 at 10:11 PM

In the past I have always instinctively veered away from conspiracy theories of any kind, while always maintaining a strong and healthy distrust of government at all levels, the latter being in my American bloodstream.

That said, we have never before had a President so clearly filled with hate for our country and culture, a hate distilled in the crucible of fellow haters/Marxists, starting with his mother and her father to the mentor they chose for him, Frank Marshall Davis, to Saul Alinsky to Bill Ayers to Jeremiah Wright, et al. He was literally engulfed in their hatred and philosophy throughout his life.

So, I wouldn’t be surprised at all that he would be willing to engage in any number of extra-Constitutional measures designed to maintain his power and, with it, the complete transformation of the country. He has already shown his disdain for the Constitution, over and over again.

But, I do have faith in one part of our government, our military, and it will be up to its leaders to refuse to follow any such extra-Constitutional orders, indeed it is their duty to do so. That is our last reasonable hope, in any event, if things unfold in the way you’ve implied. The only other one, with guns and feet in the streets, will not I’m afraid end well.

TXUS on July 30, 2012 at 11:00 PM

If this whole thing started at ATF, why would the president claim executive privilige?

newportmike on July 30, 2012 at 10:10 PM

Winner!! And because IT DOESN’T STOP AT ATF…

Khun Joe on July 30, 2012 at 11:06 PM

I have a feeling the fifth step of the Chicago way is going to kick in real soon. First 4: Lie, Stonewall, Deflect, Blame. Step 5 usually involves someone dying.

I thought wiretapping came before murder?

NickelAndDime on July 30, 2012 at 11:10 PM

Read some of those comments over at the LAT…Looney Tunes!

d1carter on July 30, 2012 at 11:12 PM

If he doesn’t do it, then the GOP can argue that there must be nothing in those e-mails that exculpates any of the five guys they’ve named. Your move, champ.

yep.

ante up, bub.

ted c on July 30, 2012 at 11:24 PM

LATimesTranslator.Com

Input:

“[F]ive senior ATF officials… are collectively responsible for the failed Fast and Furious gun-tracking operation that was ‘marred by missteps, poor judgments and inherently reckless strategy.’”

Output:

Five Democrat Operatives at the ATF…have been designated as fall guys for Barack Obama’s wildly successful Guns for Gangsters initiative designed to give Illegal Armaments to Organized Criminal Syndicates who would then use the Armaments to leave a trail of dead bodies across the US Mexico Border and thus gin up international condemnation of the 2nd Amendment.

Afterseven on July 30, 2012 at 11:24 PM

Note well: This is only the first of three reports to come.

drip drip baby

ted c on July 30, 2012 at 11:27 PM

But, I do have faith in one part of our government, our military, and it will be up to its leaders to refuse to follow any such extra-Constitutional orders, indeed it is their duty to do so. That is our last reasonable hope, in any event, if things unfold in the way you’ve implied. The only other one, with guns and feet in the streets, will not I’m afraid end well.

TXUS on July 30, 2012 at 11:00 PM

You mean a military that hires illegal mexicans?
The one that hires gangbangers?
You and I are not going to painted as Citizens, Americans who are just mad. You and I are going to be painted as Enemies of the State. And as enemies to the Federal power, we must be shot. Those are the orders. They will be obeyed.

Now, I think you better not put your faith in them.

I suggest a faith in God, and prepare yourself.

Homeland Security has ordered 450million rounds of ammo.
I don’t think its for weekend plinking.

orbitalair on July 30, 2012 at 11:27 PM

and Holder will get a pardon regardless.

SouthernGent on July 30, 2012 at 10:15 PM

Not if charges are brought after Zero is out of office. :)

justltl on July 30, 2012 at 11:33 PM

Holder=JAIL

TX-96 on July 31, 2012 at 12:05 AM

Eric Holder should already be in jail.

Obozo should be facing impeachment.

KMC1 on July 30, 2012 at 10:56 PM

They’re not because Eric Holder was right: We are a nation of cowards (when it comes to holding black people responsible for their actions).

The Rogue Tomato on July 31, 2012 at 12:06 AM

Resignation?

Bmore on July 30, 2012 at 10:03 PM

Perp-walk would be poetic.

BacaDog on July 31, 2012 at 12:08 AM

It’s funny how F & Furious is having so little impact.
I personally have tried to get to the heart of it, but in my own mind it’s a bit foggy. We need something that really sticks out, is succinct and hard hitting, to make the point easy to digest; and that point must be very negative for O or it’s not even worth our effort.. at this point. Stick to the out of control govt, the long-term economy, gay militancy, runaway illegal immigration, and other issues. We need to start triage on picking the most salient and important issues to beat like a drum.

anotherJoe on July 30, 2012 at 10:10 PM

Obama’s core Democrat support isn’t going to be dissuaded from supporting him due to any ethical, legal or amoral issues he’s responsible for, has engaged in, promotes, etc.

If he came out strongly against abortion, “bowed” to Netanyahu like he did to the Saudi monarch (I don’t approve of any bowing, let me be clear about that, I’m just making a comparison image here), admitted to having kicked five “gay people” to their mortal ends while in college “because it was fun” or some comparable cruel and horrible act to most of us…only then would his core support fall away.

There’s abundant information already that no moral, ethical or informational corruptions by Obama are going to affect his support negatively…they don’t seem to mind that.

Lourdes on July 31, 2012 at 12:09 AM

I’m wondering if the Fast and Furious scandal has been uncovered “just enough” by Obama/etc. to test the limits or dedication to ethics by the Right.

He’ll continue to do whatever he wants despite it not being ethical or legal or even moral as long as there is no “moral authority” to force him to stop, change or feel poorl for anthing, much less apologize and accept responsibility for his wrongs.

I read earlier how Obama refers to Congress as “a formality”…some sort of arrangement or construct he must acknowledge but which he assigns no teeth to. He’s either more deranged than even I thought of or he’s, uh, more deranged than even I thought of.

Lourdes on July 31, 2012 at 12:13 AM

Some people will do anything and everything possible to do as long as they never meet up with any more forceful experience to “assist” them in change from their course of action.

Obama is like that. He’s never known discipline, he’s only known indulgence and being provided for whatever he desired, with desire being the primary word there.

So he’ll just continue on as is unless, in this context with Fast and Furious (his responsibility), a stronger authority forces him to “revaluate”. To some people, it’s jail time that does that, while some even dismiss the jail time experience as mere liability to their gains, so they continue on with the gains (doing anything possible because they can) afterward or during.

When the countermeasure does not outweigh the measure in negative experience, then some people will continue with the measure. They’ll “do” what they’re doing unless they meet up with a force that is more discouraging to their behavior than the acceptable liabilities.

Lourdes on July 31, 2012 at 12:17 AM

Bmore on July 30, 2012 at 10:03 PM

A resignation is unlikely; Holder knows where too many bodies are buried. Besides he isn’t any more likely to resign than Obama is to give up his office. DHS and the Army have been buying up riot gear. A declaration of a ‘national emergency’ and a suspension of elections and investigations is becoming a distinct possibility.

ghostwalker1 on July 30, 2012 at 10:11 PM

I agree with ghostwalker. Obama, Holder, they’ll cotinue to go negative (more than they have already) on the country before either of them ever has a “come to Jesus moment” about their deeds. Neither of them seems capable of decency in government but uses government toward extremely damaging effects where our country is concerned.

Lourdes on July 31, 2012 at 12:20 AM

But, I do have faith in one part of our government, our military, and it will be up to its leaders to refuse to follow any such extra-Constitutional orders, indeed it is their duty to do so.

TXUS on July 30, 2012 at 11:00 PM

That’s what LTC Terry Lakin thought and the U.S. Army crucified him.

VorDaj on July 31, 2012 at 12:27 AM

Corruption to the core. Check his freezer. Check his mail.

pat on July 31, 2012 at 12:31 AM

Related.
Federal Court: DOJ Official May Have Lied About the New Black Panther Case
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/07/30/federal-court-doj-official-may-have-lied-about-the-new-black-panther-case/?singlepage=true

pat on July 31, 2012 at 12:36 AM

Holder and his lackies never had that power…

… only one person does, and he likes to play a lot of golf.

Seven Percent Solution on July 30, 2012 at 10:51 PM

Valarie Jarrett?

Conservative4Ever on July 31, 2012 at 1:09 AM

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