Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on July 27, 2012 by Allahpundit

President Barack Obama called for a discussion in the wake of the 2011 Tucson shootings and again on Wednesday following the Colorado movie theater rampage. But Mr. Carney did not offer any specifics about his plans for pursuing the matter…

White House officials have said they have no plans to get behind gun-control legislation, citing the difficult politics of the subject.

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Obama is no stranger to dipping deep into the murky waters of executive powers and finding ways to achieve policy goals that Congress has thwarted. Proponents of gun control say that the president has crystal clear and uncontested powers—some used by an NRA card-carrying GOP president (Bush resigned from the group in 1995)—to deal with assault weapons.

Yet the White House remains stonily silent on Obama’s intentions even to reevaluate whether to exercise these powers. In the Big Easy, he made it sound as if gun control is always hard. It most definitely can be. But there are actions Obama can easily take, and what’s hard for Democrats and gun-control advocates to figure out is why he won’t.

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[T]he vast majority of voters who dislike gun control have so many other reasons to oppose Obama that they are unlikely to switch just because he holsters this one issue. Congressional Democrats face the same dynamic. One reason Democrats abandoned gun control is because they concluded that it bled them rural- and blue-collar seats during the 1994 GOP landslide. But after slowly recapturing some of those seats, Democrats saw almost all of them wash away again in a 2010 GOP torrent swelled not by guns but the broader recoil from Obama’s activism.

If there is a road back to a Democratic congressional majority, it almost certainly will not run through such downscale districts; rather, it will go through the leafy suburban seats where gun control retains more backing. Likewise, if Obama survives in November, it will largely be because he maintained support among minorities and upscale women—not because he recaptured the blue-collar whites stampeding away from him.

Gun control is a high-risk issue because half of the electorate passionately opposes it. Yet it is the half that Democrats have little chance of reaching. Since Clinton’s era, almost all Republicans, even those from upscale places still open to restrictions, have bowed to the majority position on guns among their core supporters. However, on gun control, almost uniquely for a social issue, the president and most congressional Democrats have elevated the priorities of voters outside of their coalition over the preferences of those within it. In politics, as in combat, it isn’t much of a fight when one side unilaterally disarms.

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The assault-weapons ban in place from 1994 to 2004, however, was not particularly successful. In prohibiting 19 brands of weapons (along with copycats), the law’s judgments seemed arbitrary. A gun that resembles a military rifle is not inherently more lethal than an aesthetically innocuous weapon. But the law’s prohibition of high-capacity magazines — capped at 10 rounds — strikes me as prudent. A 100-round, drum-style magazine — the kind that police say the Aurora suspect had in his AR-15 — is highly useful to someone intent on mass murder. It is less useful for an average citizen intent on self-defense, unless he fears home invasion by a foreign army.

Such laws are always a balance. In this case, the gain in public safety would be relatively small — restricting access to a destructive technology used by killers at Aurora, Tucson, Fort Hood and Virginia Tech. But the burden on gun rights would be minimal. Defenders of high-capacity magazines argue that they are more convenient at the gun range, since you can fill up a large magazine before leaving home. There is a constitutional difference between the argument “I need to defend myself from aggression” and “I’d prefer to reload less at the range.”

I am open to the idea that other measures — particularly improving the capacity of the mental health system to identify people with emotional problems — should have a higher national priority. Reasonable gun laws are not a panacea. But neither are they a threat to the Constitution. They merit a debate — driven not by ideology but by prudential judgments on public safety.

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The temptation at times like these is to “do something” about guns. Australia and Britain passed tougher gun laws after mass shootings, and haven’t suffered another since. I would respectfully submit that Australia and Britain are full of Australians and Britons, not Americans. Moreover, neither country is home to an estimated 180 million privately owned guns, as ours is. Guns last forever. The one with which I hunt was made in 1900 and functions as well today as it did then. If tomorrow President Obama signed the ultimate gun-control law—a total ban on the sale, manufacture, and import of guns—we would still be awash in firearms for generations to come. Madmen like the murderer in Aurora would find a way to kill. Witness Timothy McVeigh…

[Forty] percent of Americans own guns, and like it or not, they identify with them, personally. Guns stand in for a whole range of values—individualism, strength, American exceptionalism—that many gun owners hold dear. Tell a gun owner that he cannot be trusted to own a firearm—particularly if you are an urban pundit with no experience around guns—and what he hears is an insult. Add to this that the bulk of the gun-buying public is made up of middle-aged white men with less than a college degree, and now you’re insulting a population already rubbed raw by decades of stagnant wages.

The harm we’ve done by messing with law-abiding Americans’ guns is significant. In 2010, I drove 11,000 miles around the United States talking to gun guys (for a book, to be published in the spring, that grew out of an article I wrote for this magazine), and I met many working guys, including plumbers, parks workers, nurses—natural Democrats in any other age—who wouldn’t listen to anything the Democratic party has to say because of its institutional hostility to guns. I’d argue that we’ve sacrificed generations of progress on health care, women’s and workers’ rights, and climate change by reflexively returning, at times like these, to an ill-informed call to ban firearms, and we haven’t gotten anything tangible in return. Aside from what it does to the progressive agenda, needlessly vilifying guns—and by extension, their owners—adds to the rancor that has us so politically frozen and culturally inflamed. Enough.

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Via Mediaite.


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THIS was an Opening!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsDY1Ha83M8

Scrumpy on July 27, 2012 at 11:42 PM

And now we have the orwellian NHS-as-parent parade. The perfect Utopian State, no parents in evidence. Just ‘government’ nannies and children.

rayra on July 27, 2012 at 11:43 PM

Ronald Brownstein is the fellow who encourages democrats to fight this unpopular issue of gun control.

While he is, indeed, a moron, I feel that he could certainly use more national exposure than he’s getting.

RedCrow on July 27, 2012 at 11:44 PM

slickwillie2001 on July 27, 2012 at 11:40 PM

Yes. and ‘someone else gave you those organs’ …

its just a short step, really, to those IPAB panels of bureaucrats who aren’t even physicians determining what health care you may have… determined by something the BRITS call QARY… Quality Adjusted Remaining Years. Need a hip replacement? How old are you? Over 70? Don’t think so.

In Britain it was recently revealed that women with breast cancer who were over 50 were being routinely denied treatment, including surgery, because it was deemed to be not cost effective due to their age ( they were beyond their most productive years) by a government panel called NICE. These women were left to die from cancers that are readily treated and women survive here in the US.

THIS is why OBAMACARE MUST BE REPEALED!

thatsafactjack on July 27, 2012 at 11:46 PM

Hi B!

cynccook on July 27, 2012 at 11:42 PM

Hey Cyndy, late and out early for me. Hows everything? Sounds like a not to good Opening Ceremony. Didn’t get to see it. ; )

Bmore on July 27, 2012 at 11:46 PM

It must have infuriated liberals to hear one of their own (Bob Costas) give Romney props for his Salt Lake City Winter Olympics rescue.

GOPRanknFile on July 27, 2012 at 11:46 PM

Britain is a Death Star collapsing into a Black Hole.

kenny on July 27, 2012 at 11:47 PM

Did anyone catch he scroll on the Romney video that Facebook lost 157 million this quarter!!!..Glad I don’t have any of that stock!!..:)

Dire Straits on July 27, 2012 at 11:47 PM

For our own sultan.

AllahsNippleHair on July 27, 2012 at 11:48 PM

American’s are sick and tired of losing their civil rights to give a rapidly ballooning government an ever increasing amount of power to control their lives.

“There are those in America today who have come to depend absolutely on government for their security. And when government fails they seek to rectify that failure in the form of granting government more power. So, as government has failed to control crime and violence with the means given it by the Constitution, they seek to give it more power at the expense of the Constitution. But in doing so, in their willingness to give up their arms in the name of safety, they are really giving up their protection from what has always been the chief source of despotism—government. Lord Acton said power corrupts. Surely then, if this is true, the more power we give the government the more corrupt it will become. And if we give it the power to confiscate our arms we also give up the ultimate means to combat that corrupt power. In doing so we can only assure that we will eventually be totally subject to it.” —Ronald Reagan

Speakup on July 27, 2012 at 11:48 PM

KOOLAID2
yep, we got about an inch in a half hour…….;-)……..my truck bed is my measurement tool……;-)

angrymike on July 27, 2012 at 11:49 PM

cynccook on July 27, 2012 at 11:42 PM

Hello!..It is all good..Hope you and your family are doing well!..:)

Dire Straits on July 27, 2012 at 11:49 PM

What’s The Matter With Texas? Nothing.

M2RB: ZZ Top, live from Paris, 2010

Resist We Much on July 27, 2012 at 11:49 PM

cynccook on July 27, 2012 at 11:39 PM

I simply don’t trust AP. Whether you like it or not, that’s the way it exists after years of experience. My view of one person here.

Of the others, I have no complaints. Mot that it’s as big big an issue to me as it seems to you.

Anywho–I read about the Utah knife attack before the Admin here posted anything about it. And, really–so what?

Liam on July 27, 2012 at 11:49 PM

THIS is why OBAMACARE MUST BE REPEALED!

thatsafactjack on July 27, 2012 at 11:46 PM

Yes. YOU’RE EXACTLY CORRECT.

Yet, most folks don’t know that this is what they’re looking towards.

They’ll hate it when it applies to them, but be complacent enough now to let it pass.

RedCrow on July 27, 2012 at 11:50 PM

John the Libertarian on July 27, 2012 at 11:40 PM

Good evening, John. How have you been?

thatsafactjack on July 27, 2012 at 11:51 PM

kenny on July 27, 2012 at 11:47 PM

Nice to see you kenny. Took me a bit to figure out who you were little buddy. I had you figured all wrong. You’re not a sock. You are butt buddies with the Dr. however. Once someone pointed this similarity out, I knew it had to be you. Nice mohawk kenny. How about burying the hatchet Special k?
Your favorite lonesome cur.

Bmore on July 27, 2012 at 11:51 PM

thatsafactjack on July 27, 2012 at 11:40 PM

My thoughts also, well said and thanks Jack!!

Scrumpy on July 27, 2012 at 11:51 PM

Good evening, Cynccook. How is the marathon training coming along?

thatsafactjack on July 27, 2012 at 11:32 PM

Hi Jackie! Training is slooooooow this week. Lots of rain yesterday and today which made running outside impossible…also there was a thing and cake was involved…. :0

Hey Cyndy, late and out early for me. Hows everything? Sounds like a not to good Opening Ceremony. Didn’t get to see it. ; )

Bmore on July 27, 2012 at 11:46 PM

Opening ceremonies were surreal and IMHO freaky triple deaky! Hey, I still got to say it! :D I’m out, too! Gotta make up for lost time in the a.m. (torrential downpours permitting)
Good night all!

cynccook on July 27, 2012 at 11:51 PM

AllahsNippleHair on July 27, 2012 at 11:48 PM

Thumbs up!..:)

Dire Straits on July 27, 2012 at 11:51 PM

Did anyone catch he scroll on the Romney video that Facebook lost 157 million this quarter!!!..Glad I don’t have any of that stock!!..:)

Dire Straits on July 27, 2012 at 11:47 PM

Never would have bought. Did have some BAIDU at $40 once. Sold it hmm

kenny on July 27, 2012 at 11:51 PM

KOOLAID2
yep, we got about an inch in a half hour…….;-)……..my truck bed is my measurement tool……;-)

angrymike on July 27, 2012 at 11:49 PM

hehe. *clink*

Bmore on July 27, 2012 at 11:46 PM

*clink*

SparkPlug on July 27, 2012 at 11:52 PM

Did anyone catch the scroll on the Romney video that Facebook lost 157 million this quarter!!!..Glad I don’t have any of that stock!!..:)

Dire Straits on July 27, 2012 at 11:47 PM

Fixed!..:)

Dire Straits on July 27, 2012 at 11:52 PM

AllahsNippleHair on July 27, 2012 at 11:48 PM

Thumbs up!..:)

Dire Straits on July 27, 2012 at 11:51 PM

:)

AllahsNippleHair on July 27, 2012 at 11:53 PM

RedCrow on July 27, 2012 at 11:50 PM

Good evening, RedCrow!

thatsafactjack on July 27, 2012 at 11:53 PM

Good Night All.

Bmore on July 27, 2012 at 11:53 PM

rayra on July 27, 2012 at 11:09 PM

Lately you’ve been nothing but a ray of sunshine. What, does your dog keep crapping in your Wheaties? Stop eating on the floor, a**hole.

MadisonConservative on July 27, 2012 at 11:53 PM

Anywho–I read about the Utah knife attack before the Admin here posted anything about it. And, really–so what?

Liam on July 27, 2012 at 11:49 PM

Whatever, dude, you’re the one who brought up both points. Maybe you should start your own blog. I’m sure some people would read it.

cynccook on July 27, 2012 at 11:53 PM

Bmore on July 27, 2012 at 11:53 PM

Good night, Bmore, miss your tunes.

thatsafactjack on July 27, 2012 at 11:54 PM

Britain is a Death Star collapsing into a Black Hole.

kenny on July 27, 2012 at 11:47 PM

Kenny: There Is No England Now (Living On a Thin Line)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBasdIOVY7c

Turn up the volume.

OT: Hi Jackie.

SparkPlug on July 27, 2012 at 11:54 PM

kenny on July 27, 2012 at 11:51 PM

I also noticed that Domestic air fares are at an all time high!!..That is not good!..:)

Dire Straits on July 27, 2012 at 11:54 PM

Bmore
I think I might send Allah some pictures from my ladies laptop…….I just might get away with it, what ya think??????……..

angrymike on July 27, 2012 at 11:55 PM

WORST OPENING CEREMONIES EVER

John the Libertarian on July 27, 2012 at 11:40 PM

That last fireworks show was pretty amazing. It didn’t erase anything though. :) And I love Floyd, but one has to question the sense of “scale” the English must be operating under …

And this quote goes into my “so, that happened” scrapbook:

“I love this imagery … the dove of peace … on a bicycle … rising through the air …”

Axe on July 27, 2012 at 11:55 PM

I can’t wait to bury the Libs in Nov.

Bring it.

SparkPlug on July 27, 2012 at 11:56 PM

SparkPlug on July 27, 2012 at 11:54 PM

I was just fixing to spin that one!..Good tune!..:)

Dire Straits on July 27, 2012 at 11:56 PM

Good night to those retiring!!

Scrumpy on July 27, 2012 at 11:56 PM

It must have infuriated liberals to hear one of their own (Bob Costas) give Romney props for his Salt Lake City Winter Olympics rescue.

GOPRanknFile on July 27, 2012 at 11:46 PM

I’m betting Marv Albert will bite him in the azz later.

Love

AllahsNippleHair on July 27, 2012 at 11:57 PM

I understand why Americans value the right to bear arms…why doesn’t the left? What is it that they don’t ‘get’?

Scrumpy on July 27, 2012 at 11:33 PM

.
I grew up in a liberal family. No amount of facts, no matter how clearly presented, will ever sway a liberal from their religious belief in liberal ideology.

Ironically, electing liberals violates the First Amendment; you can’t separate Church and State if you believe they are one in the same.

Liberals KNOW they have a right to their opinion but feel YOU do not have a right to an opinion that disagrees with their opinion. Since they equate dissent from their opinion/dogma as heresy, anyone who does not believe in lock step with them may be treated as unenlightened savages.

PolAgnostic on July 27, 2012 at 11:58 PM

John the Libertarian on July 27, 2012 at 11:40 PM

I agree!..Even Sir Paul could not help much!..:)

Dire Straits on July 27, 2012 at 11:58 PM

“Reasonable gun laws”? There isn’t any such thing.

The one common denominator in all of the mass casualty events of the past 10 years is that they were in areas marked as “gun free”. Those prohibitions didn’t work, and neither will any more laws.

To my mind, a better solution is to repeal the 1968 gun control act and all subsequent gun laws. That would be a good first step.

To paraphrase Henry Clay: “A man with a rifle is a citizen. A man without one is a subject”.

TKindred on July 27, 2012 at 11:59 PM

WORST OPENING CEREMONIES EVER

John the Libertarian on July 27, 2012 at 11:40 PM

Yeah, Mary Poppins? The hell? Way to say to the world “Oi, we aven’t changed a jot since the war. Pip pip! Tally-ho!”

MadisonConservative on July 27, 2012 at 11:59 PM

Dire Straits on July 27, 2012 at 11:54 PM

Dire, please note this post on the last:

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/07/26/quotes-of-the-day-1098/comment-page-4/#comment-6069124

Just sayin’. :)

Axe on July 28, 2012 at 12:00 AM

Good Evening
Jack..e, Spark, Cynccook , Dire, MadCon, Redcrow, Nip Hair……….and the rest………;-D

angrymike on July 28, 2012 at 12:00 AM

Bmore on July 27, 2012 at 11:53 PM

Later!..:)

Dire Straits on July 28, 2012 at 12:00 AM

Bmore on July 27, 2012 at 11:53 PM

Good night, Bmore, miss your tunes.

thatsafactjack on July 27, 2012 at 11:54 PM

..Jackie, Lord BMore and the crew: sorry for the drive by but Mrs War Planner and I discovered a case of Croatian plum brandy (I kid you not) and we are gonna experience.

If I don’t turn up in a few days, send out a search party as there might be a few bottles left. Best to all tonight and Obama bites the big green one.

(Just promoted to Captain Obvious, I was.)

*down periscope*

The War Planner on July 28, 2012 at 12:00 AM

Good Night All.

Bmore on July 27, 2012 at 11:53 PM

….WAIT!…don’t go yet!… go go boots!
…not till you go to the Palin thread first!….*hint*…B O O T S!
o k…night!

KOOLAID2 on July 28, 2012 at 12:00 AM

cynccook on July 27, 2012 at 11:51 PM

Cake? Did you say… cake? Oh… I rarely get to really enjoy cake.

Oh well… you’ll run it off.:)

thatsafactjack on July 28, 2012 at 12:01 AM

THIS is why OBAMACARE MUST BE REPEALED!

thatsafactjack on July 27, 2012 at 11:46 PM

.
Yes. YOU’RE EXACTLY CORRECT.

Yet, most folks don’t know that this is what they’re looking towards.

They’ll hate it when it applies to them, but be complacent enough now to let it pass.

RedCrow on July 27, 2012 at 11:50 PM

.
That’s almost a perfect description of post WWII America up to now.

listens2glenn on July 28, 2012 at 12:01 AM

Dire Straits on July 28, 2012 at 12:00 AM

..you too, Mark!

The War Planner on July 28, 2012 at 12:01 AM

….WAIT!…don’t go yet!… go go boots!
…not till you go to the Palin thread first!….*hint*…B O O T S!
o k…night!

KOOLAID2 on July 28, 2012 at 12:00 AM

I want to be walked on…

Electrongod on July 28, 2012 at 12:02 AM

Nice to see you kenny. Took me a bit to figure out who you were little buddy. I had you figured all wrong. You’re not a sock. You are butt buddies with the Dr. however. Once someone pointed this similarity out, I knew it had to be you. Nice mohawk kenny. How about burying the hatchet Special k?
Your favorite lonesome cur.

Bmore on July 27, 2012 at 11:51 PM

Knock it off with your baseless bullsh#t and grow up.

JPeterman on July 28, 2012 at 12:02 AM

The War Planner on July 28, 2012 at 12:00 AM

Damn the torpedoes and full speed ahead War Planner!

thatsafactjack on July 28, 2012 at 12:02 AM

Axe on July 28, 2012 at 12:00 AM

Good Deal!..:):)

Dire Straits on July 28, 2012 at 12:03 AM

WORST OPENING CEREMONIES EVER

John the Libertarian on July 27, 2012 at 11:40 PM

How could you resist the Queen parachuting in with James Bond? This is a tough crowd! ;)

txmomof6 on July 28, 2012 at 12:03 AM

Good Night All.

Bmore on July 27, 2012 at 11:53 PM

.
….WAIT!…don’t go yet!… go go boots!
…not till you go to the Palin thread first!….*hint*…B O O T S!
o k…night!

KOOLAID2 on July 28, 2012 at 12:00 AM

.
Aw yeah, B’ . . . ya gotta see the boots ! : )

listens2glenn on July 28, 2012 at 12:03 AM

Yeah, Mary Poppins? The hell? Way to say to the world “Oi, we aven’t changed a jot since the war. Pip pip! Tally-ho!”

MadisonConservative on July 27, 2012 at 11:59 PM

Also, was Boyle trying to suggest some kind of class warfare b/t the ‘Top Hats’ and what I presume were meant to be the Welsh miners? What was up with that? I can’t help but feel that psychadelics played a part in the whole thing… Psychadelics + sanctimoniousness + socialism = 2012 Opening Ceremonies.

cynccook on July 28, 2012 at 12:04 AM

The War Planner on July 28, 2012 at 12:01 AM

Later!..Enjoy the Brandy!..:)

Dire Straits on July 28, 2012 at 12:04 AM

Whatever, dude, you’re the one who brought up both points. Maybe you should start your own blog. I’m sure some people would read it.

cynccook on July 27, 2012 at 11:53 PM

Get off your high horse and quit acting like a pantywaste teeny-bopper liberal.

If I have doubts about AP, he’s adult enough to stand to himself despite my views. He doesn’t need you to try coming to his defense. I expect he satnds on his own.

You see, I’m willing to wait to see how things work out. I know AP is here because of his expertise, though I have a reason for debate on details, not totality of the man.

You would throw me away, dismiss me out of hand, while AP might one day talk to me. I would enjoy talking to AP.

You, on the other hand, are going to be sadly harder to deal with.

Liam on July 28, 2012 at 12:04 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABVmx24chnU

Remember in November

Scrumpy on July 28, 2012 at 12:04 AM

angrymike on July 28, 2012 at 12:00 AM

Good evening, Mike!Nice to see you!

thatsafactjack on July 28, 2012 at 12:05 AM

Bmore on July 27, 2012 at 11:51 PM

.
Knock it off with your baseless bullsh#t and grow up.

JPeterman on July 28, 2012 at 12:02 AM

.
I see the “chain-saw love” is out this evening.

listens2glenn on July 28, 2012 at 12:06 AM

How could you resist the Queen parachuting in with James Bond? This is a tough crowd! ;)

txmomof6 on July 28, 2012 at 12:03 AM

That was the only cute part at least that I saw. The crowd in the restaurant where we were cracked up, but the rest…. eh, not so much.

cynccook on July 28, 2012 at 12:06 AM

Good evening, RedCrow!

thatsafactjack on July 27, 2012 at 11:53 PM

Hiya, “Jack”.
Hiya, angry.

Question: Can anyone predict the next non-issue issue that the Obambi camp “tries” to light up?

One delicious gum-sucker if you’re right. (PS–thought “blow-pop” was too dirty.)

RedCrow on July 28, 2012 at 12:06 AM

kenny on July 27, 2012 at 11:47 PM

Nice to see you kenny. Took me a bit to figure out who you were little buddy. I had you figured all wrong. You’re not a sock. You are butt buddies with the Dr. however. Once someone pointed this similarity out, I knew it had to be you. Nice mohawk kenny. How about burying the hatchet Special k?
Your favorite lonesome cur.

Bmore on July 27, 2012 at 11:51 PM

I don’t hold grudges. No problem with you. If you refer to Dr Tesla, what I saw was an intelligent young man who sought friendship. A lot of intelligent young people, especially young bright ones, which I discerned from his writings are lost for a while in their lives. I saw an individual who wanted to learn. And so I defended him from attacks and ridicule from this site out of common humanity. I am a grandfather.

kenny on July 28, 2012 at 12:06 AM

MadisonConservative on July 27, 2012 at 11:59 PM

roflmao!!..Hilarious!..:)

PS..There was just somthing not right about seeing Kobie Bryant with a beret on!..:)

Dire Straits on July 28, 2012 at 12:07 AM

Sorry, I have to “hit ‘n’ run” . . . . . ‘nite all.

listens2glenn on July 28, 2012 at 12:07 AM

You would throw me away, dismiss me out of hand, while AP might one day talk to me. I would enjoy talking to AP.

You, on the other hand, are going to be sadly harder to deal with.

Liam on July 28, 2012 at 12:04 AM

Dude. Seriously, step back from the ledge. You are entitled to your opinion and so am I. I’m done talking to you about this, but not about everything else! Relax already. You are way over-reacting.

cynccook on July 28, 2012 at 12:08 AM

That’s almost a perfect description of post WWII America up to now.

listens2glenn on July 28, 2012 at 12:01 AM

(Lol) Okay, I’m interested. What are you talking about?

(The New Deal? SS? Gotta be one of the two, though one includes two.)

RedCrow on July 28, 2012 at 12:09 AM

Anything past denying guns to armed felons or people who have been involuntarily committed to a loony bin quickly verges on infringement.

I’m perfectly fine with private citizens owning tanks and fighter jets, with ONE condition: you have to pass military training for them. The armed forces do a very good job of filtering out potential psychos from running destructive equipment.

MelonCollie on July 28, 2012 at 12:09 AM

I want to be walked on…

Electrongod on July 28, 2012 at 12:02 AM

…on our back!….(but I’m turning around!)

Aw yeah, B’ . . . ya gotta see the boots ! : )

listens2glenn on July 28, 2012 at 12:03 AM

…ALL FOUR OF THEM!…(OK…I’ll STOP!)

KOOLAID2 on July 28, 2012 at 12:09 AM

How could you resist the Queen parachuting in with James Bond? This is a tough crowd! ;)

txmomof6 on July 28, 2012 at 12:03 AM

Okay..I hate I missed that.:)

Dire Straits on July 28, 2012 at 12:09 AM

listens2glenn on July 28, 2012 at 12:07 AM

Night L2G!

Axe on July 28, 2012 at 12:09 AM

The War Planner on July 28, 2012 at 12:01 AM

Slivovitz….ah, memories.

cynccook on July 28, 2012 at 12:10 AM

How could you resist the Queen parachuting in with James Bond? This is a tough crowd! ;)

txmomof6 on July 28, 2012 at 12:03 AM

If Obama had his way…

He would be parachuting into Chicago with his britches a flappin’

Electrongod on July 28, 2012 at 12:10 AM

Knock it off with your baseless bullsh#t and grow up.

JPeterman on July 28, 2012 at 12:02 AM

My best advice to you JPeterman, mind your own damn business and stay the heII out of mine. Savy?

Bmore on July 28, 2012 at 12:11 AM

cynccook on July 28, 2012 at 12:04 AM

They’ve been pulling the class warfare s**t for ages. Charles Dickens did class struggle and it’s become folklore. They’ve got a “Labour” party. Apparently anyone not in the labor party must be against laborers. Wonder why they didn’t call it the “Worker’s” Party.

Maybe because it would have been too obvious.

MadisonConservative on July 28, 2012 at 12:11 AM

Okay..I hate I missed that.:)

Dire Straits on July 28, 2012 at 12:09 AM

Here ya go! :D

cynccook on July 28, 2012 at 12:12 AM

cynccook on July 28, 2012 at 12:06 AM

I thought they earned a few ponts when they showed Prince William’s hot wife Kate!!..Nevermind..I already mentioned that..:)

Dire Straits on July 28, 2012 at 12:12 AM

Anything past denying guns to armed felons or people who have been involuntarily committed to a loony bin quickly verges on infringement.

MelonCollie on July 28, 2012 at 12:09 AM

What about denying guns to unarmed felons?

tom daschle concerned on July 28, 2012 at 12:13 AM

…on our back!….(but I’m turning around!)

KOOLAID2 on July 28, 2012 at 12:09 AM

Hey…

Who invited you?
:)

Electrongod on July 28, 2012 at 12:13 AM

ROFL, from MadisonConservative’s link

Not to be confused with the modern Marxist-Leninist party, Workers Party, USA.

tom daschle concerned on July 28, 2012 at 12:14 AM

Anything past denying guns to armed felons…

MelonCollie on July 28, 2012 at 12:09 AM

I still find myself unable to support this. The right to self-defense should be inviolable. The right to vote, big deal. You get out of prison, if anything, you’re more likely to need to be able to defend yourself. If you’ve served your sentence, your basic human rights should be restored.

MadisonConservative on July 28, 2012 at 12:14 AM

RedCrow on July 28, 2012 at 12:06 AM

We;;…we’ve had the single women, Gays, the Hispanics, attempt to gut welfare reform, the DREAM Act Executive Order, the race card ( today about the ‘You didn’t build that’ statement), so I’m guessing ….student loans/legalize pot… to try and win back the youth vote.

thatsafactjack on July 28, 2012 at 12:15 AM

MadisonConservative on July 28, 2012 at 12:11 AM

Serious ???..Aren’t the conservtis called Tories in England??..:)

Dire Straits on July 28, 2012 at 12:15 AM

Good Evening
Jack..e, Spark, Cynccook , Dire, MadCon, Redcrow, Nip Hair……….and the rest………;-D

angrymike on July 28, 2012 at 12:00 AM

Good evening angrymike! I’m bad, I just show up and start assaulting people’s ears.

I was proud, I smiled when I saw our Olympians. And, they did look sharp.

We like you afraid.

AllahsNippleHair on July 28, 2012 at 12:15 AM

Knock it off with your baseless bullsh#t and grow up.

JPeterman on July 28, 2012 at 12:02 AM
My best advice to you JPeterman, mind your own damn business and stay the heII out of mine. Savy?

Bmore on July 28, 2012 at 12:11 AM

Mommy? Daddy? Why are you two fighting? You’re making Mr. Tickles sad. See? He’s crying…

cynccook on July 28, 2012 at 12:16 AM

Serious ???..Aren’t the conservtis called Tories in England??..:)

Dire Straits on July 28, 2012 at 12:15 AM

Yep. They own Cameron, too. Always remember that their “Conservative” Party is less conservative than John McCain. The closest you can come to something resembling our conservative movement is the UKIP Party…who have barely any stances I disagree with.

MadisonConservative on July 28, 2012 at 12:17 AM

I still find myself unable to support this. The right to self-defense should be inviolable. The right to vote, big deal. You get out of prison, if anything, you’re more likely to need to be able to defend yourself. If you’ve served your sentence, your basic human rights should be restored.

MadisonConservative on July 28, 2012 at 12:14 AM

Self-defense in a world ruled by the use of force is a human right.

tom daschle concerned on July 28, 2012 at 12:18 AM

Dude. Seriously, step back from the ledge. You are entitled to your opinion and so am I. I’m done talking to you about this, but not about everything else! Relax already. You are way over-reacting.

cynccook on July 28, 2012 at 12:08 AM

Umm… “Dude”?

Pfft!

How old are you–12?

*LOL* Okay, sure. I’ll indulge you having a ‘win’ here. Seems to me you need one.

I don’t.

Since you said, “…I’m done talking to you…” we can leave it at that. I really don’t care, I don’t mind either way.

Liam on July 28, 2012 at 12:18 AM

My best advice to you JPeterman, mind your own damn business and stay the heII out of mine. Savy?

Bmore on July 28, 2012 at 12:11 AM

When you post baseless comments accusing people of using sock puppets and calling them “butt buddies” with absolutely no proof to back it up and for the whole world to see, you need to be called out on it.

Now be sure to get the rest of your fan club out for a counter attack.

JPeterman on July 28, 2012 at 12:18 AM

Spread this article around, from now until Nov. 6, 2012.

Schadenfreude on July 28, 2012 at 12:18 AM

They’ve been pulling the class warfare s**t for ages. Charles Dickens did class struggle and it’s become folklore. They’ve got a “Labour” party. Apparently anyone not in the labor party must be against laborers. Wonder why they didn’t call it the “Worker’s” Party.

Maybe because it would have been too obvious.

MadisonConservative on July 28, 2012 at 12:11 AM

Yes, it has been going on for ages. Hmmmm, you don’t suppose there’s any correlation, do you?

cynccook on July 28, 2012 at 12:18 AM

But the law’s prohibition of high-capacity magazines — capped at 10 rounds — strikes me as prudent. –AP

You disappoint me Allah. My USP magazine holds 13 rounds, is it inherently more dangerous than a 10 round magazine?

You continually reinforce your image as a Rockefeller Republican. Conservative my hairy eye.

DON’T GIVE THESE GUN GRABBERS AN INCH!

CurlyTop on July 28, 2012 at 12:18 AM

When can we talk about “reasonable” restrictions on abortions?

Blame Obama First on July 28, 2012 at 12:18 AM

Okay..I hate I missed that.:)

Dire Straits on July 28, 2012 at 12:09 AM

I’m sure you can catch it on youtube, it was cute!. What can I say, I am a sap for the Olympics ever since Olga Korbut and Cathy Rigby days!

txmomof6 on July 28, 2012 at 12:19 AM

to try and win back the youth vote.

thatsafactjack on July 28, 2012 at 12:15 AM

Lol. Not a bad guess. He certainly can’t speak about the economy. Still, I’m terribly worried that he will be re-elected. Too mnay stupid folks in this country.

RedCrow on July 28, 2012 at 12:19 AM

Since you said, “…I’m done talking to you…” we can leave it at that. I really don’t care, I don’t mind either way.

Liam on July 28, 2012 at 12:18 AM

Super! :D

cynccook on July 28, 2012 at 12:19 AM

Umm… “Dude”?

Pfft!

How old are you–12?

Liam on July 28, 2012 at 12:18 AM

What’s up your sphincter? I’m guessing a redwood.

MadisonConservative on July 28, 2012 at 12:20 AM

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