Breaking: Q2 GDP 1.5%; Update: 2011Q4 revised upward 1.1 points to 4.1%?

posted at 8:34 am on July 27, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

The decline in American production continued in the second quarter, according to the new release from the Bureau of Economic Analysis.  The Q2 GDP growth rate (annualized) was a meager 1.5%, down from 1.9% in the first quarter and 3.0% in 2011Q4:

Real gross domestic product — the output of goods and services produced by labor and property located in the United States — increased at an annual rate of 1.5 percent in the second quarter of 2012, (that is, from the first quarter to the second quarter), according to the “advance” estimate released by the Bureau of Economic Analysis. In the first quarter, real GDP increased 2.0 percent.

The Bureau emphasized that the second-quarter advance estimate released today is based on source data that are incomplete or subject to further revision by the source agency (see the box on page 3). The “second” estimate for the second quarter, based on more complete data, will be released on August 29, 2012.

The declines came in durable goods (down 1.0%), computers (0.07%), and federal government expenditures (0.4%), the latter of which was down 4.2% in Q1.

Inventories rose again, adding 0.32% to the final number, after having declined in Q1.  The real final sales of domestic product only came to 1.2%, half of Q1′s 2.4%.  Personal consumption expenditures only increased 1.5%, down from 2.4% in Q1 and pointing to a precipitous decline in demand.

Right now, the headline on CNBC is: “Economy Grew Faster Than Expected in 2Q, Up 1.5%”.  The futures market climbed a bit on the news, so that may not be far off:

U.S. stock index futures added to modest gains Friday, following a report that showed the economy grew at a faster-than-expected pace in the second quarter.

Expectations must have been pretty low for a 1.5% GDP to spark optimism.

Update: The AP is a lot less optimistic.  Their article has nothing more than a placeholder lead paragraph at the moment, but they emphasize the drop in consumer spending:

US economic growth slows to 1.5 percent annual rate from April-June, consumer spending weakens.

Maybe this is a good time to break out Barack Obama’s Mission Accomplished statements:

Oh, sorry — that last one wasn’t Obama, but you can understand how one might confuse it with the other statements.

Update II: Reuters actually takes a more cautious tone, reporting that the decline wasn’t as bad as expected, but doesn’t try to put any more positive spin on what is clearly a bad result.  They also note that the BEA has revised 2011Q4 to 4.1% growth, a rather eye-popping change from the already thrice-revised 3.0%:

U.S. economic growth slowed less than expected in the second quarter as consumers spent at their slowest pace in a year, potentially pushing the Federal Reserve closer to pumping more money into the economy.

Gross domestic product expanded at a 1.5 percent annual rate between April and June, the weakest pace of growth since the third quarter of 2011, the Commerce Department said on Friday. Consensus estimates forecast growth at a 1.3 percent pace.

First-quarter growth was revised up to a 2.0 percent pace from the previously reported 1.9 percent. Output for the fourth quarter was raised to a 4.1 percent rate from 3.0 percent.

I’d like to get an explanation of that upward revision.  A change from 1.9% to 2.0% might be reasonable, even after the BEA stated the figure three different times.  But the jump from 3.0% to 4.1%  in one revision six months after the fact looks very, very odd.

Update III: Zero Hedge has a graphic to show the revisions made in this report over the past year, and adds this thought:

And just as important, today the BEA revised historical GDP data retroactively. Of note 2010 GDP was revised from 3.0% to 2.4%, while Q3 2011 GDP was revised from 3.0% to 4.1%, indicating that the slowdown we are experiencing is in fact far worse than previously expected. It also shows that HFT trigger buying or selling on GDP data is completely meaningless as today’s data will be revised violently higher or lower in a year, making it completely irrelevant.

Except for 2011Q1 and Q3, all the revisions were upward — and that makes this decline look even worse.

Update IV: However, as Bloomberg points out, the rest of the revisions make the recovery look even weaker than the BEA’s previous numbers showed:

With today’s release, the Commerce Department’s Bureau of Economic Analysis also issued revisions dating back to the first quarter of 2009. The changes showed the first year of the recovery from the worst recession in the post-World War II era was even weaker than previously estimated.

GDP grew 2.5 percent in the 12 months after the contraction ended in June 2009, compared with the 3.3 percent gain previously reported, the Commerce Department said.

But, y’know … his plan worked.

Update V: I made an error on the chart description — there were downward revisions to both 2011Q1 and Q3, not just Q1. I’ve fixed it above.


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New meme: What would candidate obama do? WWCOD

If only (candidate) Obama knew!

aquaviva on May 22, 2013 at 2:43 PM

I feel so sorry for you Obama-azz-dwelleres.

Suffocate from what you’ve consumed, you traitors.

Schadenfreude on May 22, 2013 at 2:43 PM

Dwellers…it ain’t Beluga caviar…you’ve been consuming Obama’s shit. Suffocate from it, slowly and painfully.

I hope that Messrs. Ailes and Murdoch will fight for the 1st, with all their might, and the help of the ACLU and any decent leftist, hah.

Schadenfreude on May 22, 2013 at 2:45 PM

Yup. And he WON which is all that counts in my book.

HotAirLib on May 22, 2013 at 1:38 PM

Schadenfreude on May 22, 2013 at 2:46 PM

Chuck “Frog” Todd discovers the scorpion.

Mr. D on May 22, 2013 at 2:46 PM

It’s just like the gun laws they want. A national registry prevents anyone from ever discussing in public whether or not they might have guns. You might have liberal (re: Communist) neighbors that would report you to the moral authorities…

Freakin’ USSA

kirkill on May 22, 2013 at 2:47 PM

It looks an awful lot like the administration is willing to go to frighteningly extreme lengths for the sake of information control.

Soviets would be proud.

goflyers on May 22, 2013 at 2:48 PM

At this point, can’t we just make Cuba the 58th state already?

kirkill on May 22, 2013 at 2:48 PM

Obviously, Todd and all those singing his same tune have lost all credibility. Worse, those on the Left are also traitors.

Love,
Obama’s Choirboys
Chris Matthews
Our trolls

Liam on May 22, 2013 at 2:48 PM

Hmmm but it is really satisfying to see them sweat too.

petunia on May 22, 2013 at 2:49 PM

Wow. They’ve gone too far even for Chuck Todd.

Can I get a Maddow?

Robert_Paulson on May 22, 2013 at 2:49 PM

Is this surprising? After all, it’s the Chicago Way.

Fred 2 on May 22, 2013 at 2:49 PM

The media I mean.

petunia on May 22, 2013 at 2:49 PM

Boo Hoo. Chuck Todd was right there with the effort to criminalize private gun ownership, in fact if not in name, via harassment of gun owners. Now all of a sudden I’m supposed to be outraged because his ox is getting gored.

It’s a serious thing, but I’m not buying the sudden respect for rights from most of these clowns.

JohnTant on May 22, 2013 at 2:50 PM

“Journalism is about covering important stories. With a pillow, until they stop moving.” – David Burge

kirkill on May 22, 2013 at 2:50 PM

Yup. And he WON which is all that counts in my book.

HotAirLib on May 22, 2013 at 1:38 PM

Schadenfreude on May 22, 2013 at 2:46 PM

Gad. And HAL’s book is Sal Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals too. Such a freakin’ idiot.

But true. I’m getting to the point that our only hope is that after the complete collapse of the United States, the sane people with all the guns can reinstall the Constitution and start over.

RESET!

kirkill on May 22, 2013 at 2:54 PM

In one way I cannot disagree – the U.S. media is probably comprised of many of the world’s most dishonest people. Many “journalists” lie on a level similar to Barack Obama or Marco Rubio. But, Obama only wants to criminalize those who don’t agree with him.

bw222 on May 22, 2013 at 2:54 PM

Let’s not forget that Chuck Todd’s wife (Christin Deny Todd) is a Democratic operative.

bw222 on May 22, 2013 at 2:55 PM

Big whoop. What are all these hyperventilating pearl-clutchers in the journalism field going to do about it? Nothing. They’re Obama’s kept b_tches and they know it.

Aitch748 on May 22, 2013 at 2:57 PM

May you journalists, aka lemmings, be the first useful idiots he jails.

txhsmom on May 22, 2013 at 2:57 PM

As Jim Geraghty put it at NRO, there is a clear pattern running through all of these scandals: It looks an awful lot like the administration is willing to go to frighteningly extreme lengths for the sake of information control.

The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.

Be outraged. Use the law and a good portion of absolute moral authority to take this criminal enterprise down.

Dusty on May 22, 2013 at 2:59 PM

I don’t think Chuckie and his ilk will be turning in their Hope & Change autographed kneepads yet though…

Bruno Strozek on May 22, 2013 at 3:01 PM

Flashback:

Chavez Jokes He Is More Right-Wing Than ‘Comrade’ Obama

Forward!

visions on May 22, 2013 at 3:02 PM

Did IRS guidelines say teaching the Constitution is a political act?

Kerry Brentwood – Michigan

Shulman is squirming again.

Oh jeez, Shulman admits he doesn’t know the constitution and can’t recite it or explain 1, 2 or 19th amendments. Brentwood asks if he knows what TEA stands for – taxed enough already – Shulman says he didn’t know.

Looking at the fools and idiots in positions of power the rest of the world must be ROTFLTFAO at us.

wyntre9 on May 22, 2013 at 3:05 PM

Obama not born in Kenya. Born in East Berlin.

kurtzz3 on May 22, 2013 at 3:05 PM

What’s funny is, I think, Candidate Obama, if George Bush and Dick Cheney were doing this, imagine what Candidate Obama would say. Candidate Obama would be unloading.

No, what’s funny is how you tongue bathers have allowed him to shift all over the place while you turn a blind eye to it. For your failure to do your “job”, you’ve allowed this to happen. If he’d have been held accountable early in his career by the press, as a politician, do you think he would’ve made it this far? With this type of behavior? C’mon Chuck, by saying “Candidate Obama” you’re basically saying that you guys have been witness to this guy changing his positions and had the utter luxury of unrestrained freedom of movement to adapt his position to the situation at hand.

What good are you, Chuck???? See Obama and see your failure, it’s that simple, homeboy.

ted c on May 22, 2013 at 3:08 PM

Candidate Obama would be unloading.

I hate to break this to you, but Candidate Obama and President Obama are one and the same person.

This means that he played you, Chuckie. He told you a bunch of pretty, pretty lies and you swallowed them all. Let that sink in.

Saltyron on May 22, 2013 at 3:09 PM

Wow. They’ve gone too far even for Chuck Todd.

Can I get a Maddow?

Robert_Paulson on May 22, 2013 at 2:49 PM

Not going to happen. It’s going to get worse before it can get better.

Fenris on May 22, 2013 at 3:09 PM

It appears to me like the administration doesn’t even care what anyone thinks about what they’ve been doing. If the president were really “outraged” don’t you think someone’s head would roll? Who is he afraid of? Holder? Because what they’re doing is downright cowardly.

scalleywag on May 22, 2013 at 3:10 PM

Yup. And he WON which is all that counts in my book.
HotAirLib on May 22, 2013 at 1:38 PM

Should probably wait and see what the fallout from all this is before making a statement like that.

A lot of people are getting a taste of what ‘progressivism’ really means. I don’t think that’s going to work well for you guys.

rightmind on May 22, 2013 at 3:12 PM

A talking sock puppet that sleeps with the lowest form of prostitute. Willing to sell his soul and his kids for a few
peices of silver and a chance to fellate the kenyan.

acyl72 on May 22, 2013 at 3:13 PM

…our philosopher King?

This is why you have a parasitic criminal class near most college campuses and other concentrations of liberals.

Marks like tingles are the best, though. They never admit that they were mugged.

IlikedAUH2O on May 22, 2013 at 3:14 PM

So, F. Chuck Todd is a racist, along with Chris Matthews, for criticizing a Black President?

pjarhead on May 22, 2013 at 3:15 PM

Welcome to Chicago politics, F. Chuck Todd. These MSM reporters are truly fools.

Henry Bowman on May 22, 2013 at 3:16 PM

Lol!!! Chucky Todd. Starve!!! Bunch of damn fluffers.

Bmore on May 22, 2013 at 3:16 PM

Far as I’m concerned, these smug no-balz reporters can cry in their $10 lattes all week, while I laugh at them. Their liberalism and their precious Obama brought all this about, even though they were warned five years ago their candidate is a sleaze.

This is nothing. I think more have been spied on, including azz-kissers like Matthews. In any dictatorship, the biggest supporters are the ones most closely watched. There’s always a suspicion of heresy, and that has to be stamped out faster than any active opposition. Wait till Obamacare kicks in, too.

You reap what you sow. I hope their precious Obama gives them a bountiful harvest.

Liam on May 22, 2013 at 3:17 PM

scalleywag on May 22, 2013 at 3:10 PM

And why is it that they don’t care? Is it because they know nothing will happen to them? I have always thought the POS knows he’s untouchable and that’s probably because of the powers behind the throne.

wyntre9 on May 22, 2013 at 3:17 PM

Criminalize journalism?

Yes, chuck, journalism. It’s that profession that you haven’t been involved with over the last few years. Don’t worry, there’ll be plenty of jobs for leg humpers, tongue bathers and water carriers. Pays the same as you make right now, buddy.

ted c on May 22, 2013 at 3:20 PM

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

Well, I guess TECHNICALLY it doesn’t say the President can’t do any of these things. So there’s that.

UnderstandingisPower on May 22, 2013 at 3:21 PM

Lol!!! Chucky Todd. Starve!!! Bunch of damn fluffers.

Bmore on May 22, 2013 at 3:16 PM

Friend, pls. photoshop the 3 monkeys of oblivion: Holder Obama and Hillary.

Also, consider photoshopping the 3 stooges, same characters.

Schadenfreude on May 22, 2013 at 3:22 PM

Our trolls

Liam on May 22, 2013 at 2:48 PM

Someone appropriately misspelled them “trools” this morning. I kind of like that.

oldroy on May 22, 2013 at 3:22 PM

Yeah Chuckie-boy, sark on it. Too bad you weren’t one of the realjournalists when F&F, Bengazi, HHS, OSHA, IRS, EPA, WiretAP scandals were breaking.

It was the folks like the ones here at HA doing the real grunt work.

Turtle317 on May 22, 2013 at 3:23 PM

Were all of the groups that got slammed by the IRS in total red states ?Did any of them have Democrat senators or Democrat congressmen?Were the Democrats in the group that doesn’t know anything or did they just go along with it?The MSM is dead in this country.The only media left is sites like this.

docflash on May 22, 2013 at 3:23 PM

Someone appropriately misspelled them “trools” this morning. I kind of like that.

oldroy on May 22, 2013 at 3:22 PM

I saw that, and like it, too. Kind of a cross between ‘trolls’ and ‘tools’.

Maybe that commenter coined a new term exclusive to HotAir. Might even catch on with other Conservative sites.

Liam on May 22, 2013 at 3:28 PM

Chuck – Hope you like the change you have been promoting the last several years.

albill on May 22, 2013 at 3:30 PM

But, Benghazi is a political witch hunt…

d1carter on May 22, 2013 at 3:31 PM

The State Run Media thought they would be exempt from the repression…LOL.

d1carter on May 22, 2013 at 3:31 PM

It’s great to see Chuck Todd cheering on journalism and journalists! Someday he might consider abandoning the Ministry of Truth propaganda machine, and join in.

MTF on May 22, 2013 at 3:34 PM

Yup. And he WON which is all that counts in my book..

HotAirLib on May 22, 2013 at 1:38

Mighty short book ya got there.

Dope.

herm2416 on May 22, 2013 at 3:38 PM

Someone appropriately misspelled them “trools” this morning. I kind of like that.

oldroy on May 22, 2013 at 3:22 PM

I saw that, and like it, too. Kind of a cross between ‘trolls’ and ‘tools’.

Maybe that commenter coined a new term exclusive to HotAir. Might even catch on with other Conservative sites.

Liam on May 22, 2013 at 3:28 PM

Or trolls and fools. But I repeat myself.

IrishEyes on May 22, 2013 at 3:39 PM

Schadenfreude on May 22, 2013 at 3:22 PM

Lol! Okay, you got it. I’ll drop it off when its done. ; )

Bmore on May 22, 2013 at 3:41 PM

meh…there’s something pathetic how conservatives keep hoping these liberal journalists are going to start being even-handed…just wait, Chuck Todd and the rest of them will forgive and forget when it’s convenient.

blue13326 on May 22, 2013 at 3:41 PM

And somehow Obama’s Gallup approval is still in the 50s.

I swear…Even if Obama rounded up 1/2 the country to the gas chambers, 50+% of the country including some of the 1/2 going into the gas chambers would still approve of Obama’s job performance.

Varchild on May 22, 2013 at 3:46 PM

The first step in totalitarian rule is to silence the opposition by intimidation. Now we can clearly see what kind of government we are going to get.

kemojr on May 22, 2013 at 3:50 PM

they want to criminalize journalism

But the Tea Party, they should be criminalized.

Alabama Infidel on May 22, 2013 at 3:55 PM

Manure Spreading Media = Useful Idiots (V.I. Lenin)

Missilengr on May 22, 2013 at 3:56 PM

When you’ve lost you’re losing Chuck Toad…

bofh on May 22, 2013 at 4:05 PM

BreakingNews: Chuck Todd(D) has placed his inflatable Obama love doll on CraigsList… it is SO over…

DANEgerus on May 22, 2013 at 4:06 PM

Once leftist scumbag todd gets his assurances from the OBOZO regime that he isn’t a target – he’ll be back licking OBOZO’s boots before you can say “d-cRAT stooge.”

TeaPartyNation on May 22, 2013 at 4:07 PM

Let’s not forget that Chuck Todd’s wife (Christin Deny Todd) is a Democratic operative.

bw222 on May 22, 2013 at 2:55 PM

about three days before the election in 2008 there was a story out of Tennessee about two guys talking in a bar about shooting Senator Obama. Made big headlines with all the racial intoning that could be mustered. The gal that initiated the report was the wife of Kerry’s 2004 campaign manager. It caused me to research a whole lot of names associated with by-lines. The ties to journ-o-listers to the dem party are very strong.

And the story was bogus of course.

DanMan on May 22, 2013 at 4:08 PM

So, they want to criminalize journalism

Let me make sure I get my hands around all of this:

Criminalizing journalism, or in other words, restricting rights guaranteed under the First Amendment, is doubleungood.

Criminalizing gun ownership, or in other words, restricting rights guaranteed under the Second Amendment, is doubleplusgood.

NOW, it all makes sense

Tar Heel Sooner on May 22, 2013 at 4:15 PM

“Fundamentally change America!” The idiots that voted for this Commie had no idea what he was talking about because they never took the time to learn anything about this traitor to America!!

Deano1952 on May 22, 2013 at 4:18 PM

Candidate Obama would be unloading.

I hate to break this to you, but Candidate Obama and President Obama are one and the same person.

This means that he played you, Chuckie. He told you a bunch of pretty, pretty lies and you swallowed them all. Let that sink in.

Saltyron on May 22, 2013 at 3:09 PM

BINGO! I don’t think this will occur to the LSM as a whole, though. Nor will they ever call him on it.

fred5678 on May 22, 2013 at 4:31 PM

Hey Chuck,
You DID build that !!
Sleep with it !

Jabberwock on May 22, 2013 at 4:34 PM

Well Chuck, by being a gutless weasel, the alligator is going to eat you last. Don’t worry, he’s hungry.

rhombus on May 22, 2013 at 4:57 PM

So, they want to criminalize journalism, and that’s what it’s coming down to. If you end up essentially criminalizing journalism when it comes to reporting on the federal government…

.
Actually, Chuck, the way journalism has been practiced in the age of Øbama is criminal. You have a lot to atone for, Bub.

ExpressoBold on May 22, 2013 at 5:08 PM

When Obama has lost Chuck Todd he is done.

mitchellvii on May 22, 2013 at 5:10 PM

Drop that notepad and reach for the sky!, dirtbag.

BobMbx on May 22, 2013 at 5:43 PM

I swear…Even if Obama rounded up 1/2 the country to the gas chambers, 50+% of the country including some of the 1/2 going into the gas chambers would still approve of Obama’s job performance.

Varchild on May 22, 2013 at 3:46 PM

Right up to the time the ol’ EBT card achieved a zero balance, with no means of the government to fill it up.

“Waddya mean we cooked the dudes who we gots da money from?”

BobMbx on May 22, 2013 at 5:46 PM

For over 30 years…. I thought that I escaped my Communist country.

MNH on May 22, 2013 at 6:33 PM

Not buying it.

Judge apologizes for lack of transparency in James Rosen leak probe

The chief judge of the District’s federal court issued an unusual order Wednesday, apologizing to the public and the media for not making certain court documents widely available online.

The gesture of transparency by U.S. District Judge Royce C. Lamberth comes at a time when the Obama administration is under scrutiny for an unprecedented number of leak investigations, including one showing that the Justice Department had secretly probed the news-gathering activities of Fox News reporter James Rosen.

The investigation of Rosen was first reported Monday, after The Washington Post obtained court documents containing details of the case.

A federal judge had ordered the documents unsealed in November 2011, but they were kept sealed for 18 months and not posted on the court’s online docket until last week, after The Post inquired about them.

Lamberth blamed a series of administrative errors and said a review of the “performance of the personnel involved is underway.” He also said he was creating a new category on the court’s Web site where all search and arrest warrants will be made public unless they fall under a separate sealing order.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/judge-apologizes-for-lack-of-transparency-in-leak-case/2013/05/22/ad769370-c308-11e2-8c3b-0b5e9247e8ca_story.html

wyntre9 on May 22, 2013 at 6:37 PM

wyntre9 on May 22, 2013 at 6:37 PM

More information the public should have had before the vote.

That election was a fraud.

Obama is not President.

petunia on May 22, 2013 at 6:44 PM

BobMbx on May 22, 2013 at 5:46 PM

Heh

cornbred on May 22, 2013 at 8:55 PM

The media is fine with Obama trashing the Ammendments to the US Constitution because it is old and…..hey wait…..you can’t do that….

dddave on May 23, 2013 at 11:35 AM