As for domestic violence, that also is a moving standard, and at the point domestic violence is determined, in a court, threats including guns should be determined by the Court and not a politician. Same goes for ‘violent’ misdemeanors, which could include being hauled off by police for refusing to move a picket sign from a free speech zone. Another moving standard which can be rigged to disarm a political group

Driving is a privilege. A gun is a right, and the right is forfeit only if the right is abused. There is a limit on how much the State should be anticipating the next moves of the citizens

MY spiders have guns…and are excellent shots.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 25, 2012 at 11:12 AM

Not only have you moved to Texas, you’ve gone native in record time! Welcome!

You’re seriously trying to say that one does not need a license to carry a concealed weapon in Florida?

Not only are you ‘short on facts’ – you’re downright stupid.

Go outside and play. The fresh air will do you good.

Solaratov on July 25, 2012 at 4:25 PM

No, I didn’t say that at all.

NotCoach on July 25, 2012 at 3:45 PM

I sure can’t argue with any of that – and wouldn’t anyway.

How many do you think he would have managed to kill had the AR-15 not jammed?

verbaluce on July 25, 2012 at 11:37 AM

Many more than he would have if not for Aurora’s recognition of Colorado’s statutes regarding the guaranteed natural right of The People to keep and bear arms and Cinemark choosing to allow it’s patrons to carry on their property.

Oh, wait…

Point taken, gun free zones are a bad idea.

My son has a 100 round drum for his AKM – and it is not very reliable – the high capacity drums just aren’t.

dentarthurdent on July 25, 2012 at 12:01 PM

Try the Romanian 75-rounders. Much more reliable than the 100s.

How many do you think he would have managed to kill had the AR-15 not jammed?

verbaluce on July 25, 2012 at 11:37 AM

Dunno. I’m too busy worrying about how many would have been killed if that last asteroid hadn’t missed Earth.

Florida does not have open carry and one does not have to have a license to carry. As usual, you are short on your facts.

Dante on July 25, 2012 at 10:44 AM

You’re seriously trying to say that one does not need a license to carry a concealed weapon in Florida?

Not only are you ‘short on facts’ – you’re downright stupid.

Go outside and play. The fresh air will do you good.

No he wasn’t.

Dante on July 25, 2012 at 10:31 AM

You’re an idiot.

dentarthurdent on July 25, 2012 at 3:20 PM

They don’t miss the point, they are dishonest. Luby’s massacre was the most deadly shooting in the US before Virginia Tech. But George Hennard had no “massive capacity” magazines when he committed that atrocity. He had two run of the mill pistols with typical magazines anyone might carry; a Glock 17 and a Ruger P89.

Verbulace has no interest in “common sense” gun laws, whatever the Fluke that means. He thinks disarming law abiding citizens makes people safe. Forget the fact that Luby’s massacre lead directly to Texas making a shall-issue law because people were following the law, and thus unarmed inside the cafeteria. (One woman actually reached for her revolver that was unfortunately legally locked in her vehicle.) Forget the fact that massacres don’t happen when people are allowed to be armed. Forget the fact that criminals have testified over and over again that they only break into vacant homes because they don’t want to be shot. Forget the fact that the most violent cities in the United States have the toughest gun laws. None of that matters. All that matters is that “something” must be done.

No mass-murderer ever follows the law.

dmacleo on July 25, 2012 at 3:10 PM

James Brady was Press Secretary!

The libs always miss that point, and related to it the fact that someone who really wanted to inflict damage AND had very good working knowledge of guns would NOT have used a large capacity drum – precisely because they are unreliable.

dentarthurdent on July 25, 2012 at 3:20 PM

But, but, no one needs working knowledge to just pull the trigger! /s

Sadly, I’ve heard that argument, usually followed by complaints about “cowards’ weapons” and wanting to go back to swords. Any idiot can stab someone with a sword, and I say this as a fairly competent fencer. Sure, it takes skill and training to use one well, but how’s that different from a handgun, rifle, or circular saw?

4 spares in a tac vest or cargo pockets. Less room, better weight distribution, and more ammo. Plus, it actually works…

so you want to ban the one thing that MAY have saved lives here…the jamming.

dmacleo on July 25, 2012 at 3:11 PM

The libs always miss that point, and related to it the fact that someone who really wanted to inflict damage AND had very good working knowledge of guns would NOT have used a large capacity drum – precisely because they are unreliable.

What is the point of gun control. To stop criminals, or disarm the average American?

Hmmm, gotta be a trick question.

We’ll never be able to stop criminals, so…………………

– Uncertified aftermarket contraptions (as was the situation in Aurora) should be illegal for sale under common law product liability standards. (They jam, cause unsafe distraction for the shooter, etc.) When incidents occur, sellers and manufacturers of these contraptions should be able to be sued for providing unsafe merchandise. Note: common law liability standards, not government statute.

so you want to ban the one thing that MAY have saved lives here…the jamming.

Jim Brady was not forced to be a SS agent and I for one am tired of having to pay for his career choice.

You are aware that the introduction of Facts and Correct Tactical Thinking will not be appreciated by liberals who have their minds made up!

jaydee_007 on July 25, 2012 at 2:48 PM

Every now and then I get this ridiculous thought that they might actually be capable of learning something – since they control the education system – but I realize it’s usually an exercise in futility – my main exercise program whenever liberals are involved.

The magazines shipped, by the manufacturer, with my very expensive Kimber 1911 caused random unacceptable *stove piping* and FTF, even after proper break in. Aftermarket mags solved the problem.

Yoop on July 25, 2012 at 2:54 PM

I’ve personally never known anyone who’s had good luck with Kimber mags. Browning made a follower that works, why mess with it?

Now, I’ve heard of people who love their Kimber, but that’s just “friend of a friend” stories. ;>

O’Reilly is such a fair and balanced lying scumbag that I will never watch his lying ass again.

woodNfish on July 25, 2012 at 2:36 PM

Yeah, can’t stand them any more than I can stand MSDNC. O’Rly needs a wakeup call in the form of a few thousand tweets…

How does that fit your scheme?

Yoop on July 25, 2012 at 2:54 PM

It doesn’t matter. His ‘good intentions’ and ‘deep concern’ trump your liberty every time.

What I’m about to say is sure to irritate people on both sides of the issue. Please, read whole thing and engage brain before commenting on this proposed solution.

– Magazines and clips designed by the weapon’s licensed manufacturer or certified by them (not the government) as safe, functional parts must be allowed as they would be legitimate and carry an implied warranty. For the AR-15, this would probably be sizes of 20 or 30 rounds, as determined by each manufacturer.

– Uncertified aftermarket contraptions (as was the situation in Aurora) should be illegal for sale under common law product liability standards. (They jam, cause unsafe distraction for the shooter, etc.) When incidents occur, sellers and manufacturers of these contraptions should be able to be sued for providing unsafe merchandise. Note: common law liability standards, not government statute.

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RobBert on July 25, 2012 at 2:23 PM

Your comment should rightly irritate knowledgeable firearms owners.

The magazines shipped, by the manufacturer, with my very expensive Kimber 1911 caused random unacceptable *stove piping* and FTF, even after proper break in. Aftermarket mags solved the problem.

How does that fit your scheme?