Scott Walker to Romney: This election can’t just be a referendum on Obama

posted at 7:22 pm on July 25, 2012 by Allahpundit

A rare point of agreement between Walker and The One. It’s good advice, but if victory depends on this, I’m thinking we might have nominated the wrong guy. Sean Trende elaborates:

In the referendum model of the election, voters ask themselves two questions: First, do I want the president to be re-elected? Second, is the challenger so unacceptable that I simply can’t bring myself to vote for him?…

[V]oters are at Step 2 of the referendum model. They are evaluating Romney. In this situation, the Republicans are doing the exact wrong thing by making 90 percent of their ads attacks on Obama. Although voters always say this but rarely mean it, they really do want Romney to go positive. They are interested in learning about his accomplishments (or lack thereof), especially during his term as governor.

While the Obama camp has been trying to give voters what they want, albeit from a negative perspective (and perhaps part of why Obama hasn’t moved the polls with his blitz is that those voters who are interested in Bain and Romney’s taxes are waiting to hear Romney’s side of the story), the Romney camp and his super PAC supporters have been banging their collective heads against a wall essentially trying to re-convince voters that the president is not doing a good job. Simply put, this won’t do it.

It is a real question whether the Romney campaign gets this.

Go look at the Pew poll that Trende links. Fully 90 percent of registered voters say they already know what they need to know about Obama to make a judgment. With numbers like that, I wonder if his own attack ads against Romney aren’t doing more to sink O’s numbers than Romney’s attack ads are. After all, unlike Mitt’s ads, the anti-Bain spots contain a new piece of information about The One for those who haven’t paid much attention to his M.O. as president: They prove that the avatar of Hopenchange is every bit as willing to throw a punch as the business-as-usual Beltway politicians he campaigned against last time. By contrast, what are Romney’s attack ads telling voters that they haven’t already heard? It’s worth hitting Obama with a new barrage if/when the next terrible jobs report comes out, just to make sure voters are on top of the news, but beyond that, Trende’s point is well taken that there’s really nothing left to say. In fact, that’s one of the things that irked me a bit about Romney’s “Assad must go” comments on Monday. That seemed like criticism of O for the sake of criticism, just one more way to gripe that he’s failing. I don’t blame Romney for wanting to duck a topic as difficult as Syria, but if even I’m impatient with the kitchen-sink “everything Obama’s doing is wrong” approach, I wonder if undecideds are tuning him out.

Question, then, for longtime Romney-watchers: Has Mitt ever run a successful campaign that focused chiefly on his own career and qualifications rather than on destroying his opponent? From what I understand, he tried to tout his Bain credentials in his 1994 Senate run against Kennedy and was brutalized for it. Eight years later, he began his gubernatorial campaign by running on his biography and quickly fell behind by 10 points; only when he went harshly negative did he close the gap. Four years ago, he tried to remake himself as a social conservative warrior in the Republican primary and he fizzled before CPAC. This year, he went nuclear against Gingrich and then Santorum and cruised to the nomination. That’s a lot of reinforcement for the idea that the path to victory lies through keeping the focus on the other guy. Even worse, the Pew poll finds that the one thing voters are most curious about with respect to Romney’s background is his record as governor, and of course the one thing for which he’s best known as governor is the one thing he really, really doesn’t want to talk about on the trail. I think he’s calculating that, while he does need to give voters some sense of who he is, they only need a very impressionistic sense to pull the lever. Obama became a symbol of hope and change; Romney, I think, wants simply to become a symbol of competence. The particulars of his Bain tenure and term as governor are almost unimportant. All you need to know is that he was a huge success in business and he saved the Olympics and he got himself elected governor in a very blue state. As Rich Lowry (I think) once put it, “No one ever regretted hiring Mitt Romney to do a job.” That’s the extent of the “choice” they want to present to voters. Not sure it’s enough for a job as big this, but we’d better hope it is because I don’t see Mitt doing any “fireside chat” ads like President You Didn’t Build That has been putting out lately.

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O screw it. Nothing about AP is simple or convenient.

Axe on July 25, 2012 at 8:43 PM

But for the six years I have been on this site, he is quite amazing. His daily analysis is great, don’t always agree, but am almost always impressed by his daily delivery…when you think of all the things that are going on in this world, and he has been able to manage the most telling of the stories.
We are honored to have him, and he has earned his “stripes”, and his pay…I haven’t seen him begging for an Ipad lately, so I assume he is has finished his apprenticeship, and is making the big bucks now, as well he should.

right2bright on July 25, 2012 at 8:46 PM

I’ve long wondered if the GOP wasn’t running an experiment with the presidential election this year to see if they couldn’t give conservative voters the finger and try to take the Democrats’ constituencies away from the Democrats.

Aitch748 on July 25, 2012 at 8:44 PM

They might snare some refugee Democrats but they will lose far more conservatives in doing so. Most Democrats and socialists aren’t going to vote for a wannabe liberal when they can get the real thing with Obama.

sharrukin on July 25, 2012 at 8:47 PM

Scott Walker is in no place to be instructing Mitt Romney on how to walk, talk, and think like a Republican.

Oy!

minnesoter on July 25, 2012 at 8:45 PM

Talk about the Hall of Delusions! Go forward blind ones, go forward.

Schadenfreude on July 25, 2012 at 8:47 PM

Scott Walker is in no place to be instructing Mitt Romney on how to walk, talk, and think like a Republican.

Oy!

minnesoter on July 25, 2012 at 8:45 PM

No, the irony is that you said it was more than about Obama, and that is what Scott was saying…now you are saying he shouldn’t be saying that, and that both him and you are now wrong?

You are arguing with yourself…first you agree with Scott (although you didn’t understand you were), and now you are saying Scott is wrong?

And yes, Scott is in a position to help Mitt, that’s what team players do, assist each other, not let them hang, and as you pointed out, it’s more than bad mouthing Obama…you and Scott agree.

Don’t you hate it when you are caught up like that…why not just say…oops, Scott is right, Mitt should focus more on Mitt’s abilities and policies.

You guys crack me up…even when you agree with an assessment, you hate it because it makes Mitt “imperfect”…you think he is running a perfect campaign and not change? That’s not what you thought a half hour ago….

right2bright on July 25, 2012 at 8:51 PM


No, Mitt does not need to refocus. He’s doing great.

Rilly? What would Romney doing terrible look like?

casuist on July 25, 2012 at 8:51 PM

Next time keep yer mouth, er pen/typewriter closed, so we don’t see what an ignorant idiot you are.

AP fought the muzzies, the wild ones, when you were in diapers, 1 it appears. You have no clue who he is and what all he did. He has steely ones, that’s for sure.

In addition, he helped to bring down Dan Rather. Go read his wiki site, for a minimum of info.

Next time keep all shut, so you don’t embarrass yourself further.

Schadenfreude on July 25, 2012 at 8:27 PM

1. Since he was born 25 years after me, you are as usual full of it.
2. Allahpundit has a stupid name for this site. He doesn’t use this site to criticize Muslims for their extreme beliefs.
3. He is aiding the Obama campaign with posts that overlook the fact that the polls are significantly oversampling Democrats. Anyone who relies on these polls without looking at the internals is being played. Romney is winning and will win despite the hand wringing form Allahpundit – whoever he is.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 8:53 PM

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 8:53 PM

You are sinking deeper into the latrine. Keep going.

Schadenfreude on July 25, 2012 at 8:54 PM

Scott Walker is in no place to be instructing Mitt Romney on how to walk, talk, and think like a Republican.

Oy!

minnesoter on July 25, 2012 at 8:45 PM

Oy! Indeed!!!

It’s mind boggling that you wrote this.

INC on July 25, 2012 at 8:56 PM

Scott Walker is in no place to be instructing Mitt Romney on how to walk, talk, and think like a Republican.

minnesoter on July 25, 2012 at 8:45 PM

Excuse me.

Scott Walker gavalnized the entire country.

Scott Walker won his second Election.

Scott Walker ran as a real Republican in a blue state and won twice.

Mitt Romney ran away from the Republican Party and denied being Republican in his one win.

Mitt Romney did not win a second election because he would have lost big time.

But you are right. Scott Walker has no right to instruct Romney on being a Republican. Mitt could not possibly learn that.

This discussion tonight proves that once and for all.

Read this thread it is obvious Romney supporters hate most Republicans.

Steveangell on July 25, 2012 at 8:59 PM


It’s mind boggling that you wrote this.

Pod people. The GOP has been taken over by pod people.

casuist on July 25, 2012 at 8:59 PM

Read this thread it is obvious Romney supporters hate most Republicans.

Steveangell on July 25, 2012 at 8:59 PM

They are no different than the Obama lickers.

Schadenfreude on July 25, 2012 at 9:01 PM

Romney is running against an incumbent president. American voters do not like to fire their presidents. ALL elections against incumbents are referendums on the incumbent. The challenger has to convince voters who really, really want to give their president a second chance that it isn’t worth it, that barack is SO BAD he’ll only make things worse if given another chance. Romney’s doing just fine in that regard. He’ll tell his personal story at the convention, and highlight it throughout the fall campaign — while also driving barack into the ground like a fence post on the back 40.

Rational Thought on July 25, 2012 at 9:02 PM

Next time keep yer mouth, er pen/typewriter closed, so we don’t see what an ignorant idiot you are.

AP fought the muzzies, the wild ones, when you were in diapers, it appears. You have no clue who he is and what all he did. He has steely ones, that’s for sure.

In addition, he helped to bring down Dan Rather. Go read his wiki site, for a minimum of info.

Next time keep all shut, so you don’t embarrass yourself further.

Schadenfreude on July 25, 2012 at 8:27 PM

I never knew that. Wow! Thank you for sharing. I learn something new every day.

herm2416 on July 25, 2012 at 9:03 PM

Read this thread it is obvious Romney supporters hate most Republicans.

Steveangell on July 25, 2012 at 8:59 PM

They are no different than the Obama lickers.

Schadenfreude on July 25, 2012 at 9:01 PM

I mean really.

Allah is very moderate. To bash him is to not understand what so ever Hot Air. If Allah is too conservative you are not a Republican at all.

Steveangell on July 25, 2012 at 9:03 PM


3. He is aiding the Obama campaign with posts that overlook the fact that the polls are significantly oversampling Democrats. Anyone who relies on these polls without looking at the internals is being played. Romney is winning and will win despite the hand wringing form Allahpundit – whoever he is.

Could you not find a site with writers whose views are more consistent with your own since conservatives who challenge your blinkered purchase on a too-narrow reality offend you so much?

casuist on July 25, 2012 at 9:03 PM

He is aiding the Obama campaign with posts that overlook the fact that the polls are significantly oversampling Democrats.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 8:53 PM

The polls SHOULD OVERSAMPLE DEMOCRATS because that’s the reality of the voting pattern.

sharrukin on July 25, 2012 at 9:07 PM

I never knew that. Wow! Thank you for sharing. I learn something new every day.

herm2416 on July 25, 2012 at 9:03 PM

Boy was that fun. I was big into Free Republic back then and my father was a typewriter repairman in the 60′s. There was no way that memo was done back then simply impossible. th always was underlined on typewriters back then even newspapers that could do proportional print underlined it but not on that memo. The non underlined th simply had not been invented when these memos were supposedly written. I mostly watched this happen under ImphClinton. Plus using standard Word settings the memo came out exactly like the one posted on line other than all the trash from copying it 50 times or so.

Steveangell on July 25, 2012 at 9:09 PM


ALL elections against incumbents are referendums on the incumbent.

It must be so cool to know everything with such certainty.

casuist on July 25, 2012 at 9:10 PM

Scott Walker is in no place to be instructing Mitt Romney on how to walk, talk, and think like a Republican.
Oy!
minnesoter on July 25, 2012 at 8:45 PM

He’s EXACTLY the one who should be doing it. He flew into the teeth of the Left in their backyard and beat them. That took conservative vision, guts and faith.

Is this really how Romney supporters think?

Oy!

rrpjr on July 25, 2012 at 9:15 PM

Romney’s doing just fine in that regard. He’ll tell his personal story at the convention, and highlight it throughout the fall campaign — while also driving barack into the ground like a fence post on the back 40.

Rational Thought on July 25, 2012 at 9:02 PM

Yup.

Must be why FDR lost his first reelection.

Wait.

This just in.

FDR won three times.

No you must give the voters an alternative they really believe in to fire the President. So far Romney has only claimed he would manage the recession better. Weak claims that do not stand up to any inspection. Nothing concrete period.

In fact. Romney does not need to point out how the President is failing. Every American already knows that. He simply must prove to them he will fix our problems.

So far.

NO SALE.

Steveangell on July 25, 2012 at 9:16 PM

So Romney supporters hate Palin and Walker? Interesting.

Buckshot Bill on July 25, 2012 at 9:16 PM

So Romney supporters hate Palin and Walker? Interesting.

Buckshot Bill on July 25, 2012 at 9:16 PM

They hate most conservatives, particularly the base.

sharrukin on July 25, 2012 at 9:18 PM

Not one of you Allahpundit bootlickers who have criticized me for my criticism of RCP has gainsaid the fact that they are aiding and abetting the Obama campaign by publishing dishonest polls which oversample Democrats.

The acceptance of these polls depresses enthusiasm for Romney, elevates dissatisfaction with his campaign and causes hand wringers like Allahpundit to utter nonsense like I’m thinking we might have nominated the wrong guy – as if Scott Walker could mount a national campaign against Obama.

I’ve emailed RCP about this, without success.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 9:18 PM

Not one of you Allahpundit bootlickers who have criticized me for my criticism of RCP has gainsaid the fact that they are aiding and abetting the Obama campaign by publishing dishonest polls which oversample Democrats.

The acceptance of these polls depresses enthusiasm for Romney, elevates dissatisfaction with his campaign and causes hand wringers like Allahpundit to utter nonsense like I’m thinking we might have nominated the wrong guy – as if Scott Walker could mount a national campaign against Obama.

I’ve emailed RCP about this, without success.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 9:18 PM

And happens every election.

We all know polls are mostly crap.

But we also feel the mood of the people as a whole. Romney is not making the sale. The left is not at all worried about Romney. This more than anything else lets us know they are not worried about Romney winning.

Steveangell on July 25, 2012 at 9:22 PM


They hate most conservatives, particularly the base.


I’ll say. Romney supporters typically detest the GOP base, particularly Evangelicals, southern voters, or Tea Partiers, each of whom they regard with a fearful suspicion that borders on loathing.

casuist on July 25, 2012 at 9:23 PM

The polls SHOULD OVERSAMPLE DEMOCRATS because that’s the reality of the voting pattern. sharrukin on July 25, 2012 at 9:07 PM

Numerous commenter have posted the election figures for the past 20 years. You are wrong. Congressional Republicans now lead Democrats by 5. On an even 35 -35 turnout, which is realistic, Mitt is ahead by at least 5. He is running a great campaign and will win by 5-10 points despite the efforts of the naysayers on this site who are sore losers.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 9:25 PM


The acceptance of these polls depresses enthusiasm for Romney,

What enthusiasm for Romney? The most that any but the most hardcore Romney supporter can muster is a grim resignation based on the brute empirical fact that Romney is not Obama, a condition that Romney shares with everyone else on the planet who is not Obama, so this hardly makes Romney special.

The polls aren’t depressing enthusiasm for Romney. Romney is depressing enthusiasm for Romney. If you’re a conservative the case is even simpler: Romney is depressing.

casuist on July 25, 2012 at 9:26 PM

i live in a deep red state and have seen one romney placard on someones yard and maybe one or two bumper stickers in the past six months.

the tea has gone to el rushbos head. its not obama who’s depressing turnout. its romney. it would hurt tea sales if he said otherwise.

renalin on July 25, 2012 at 9:30 PM

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 9:25 PM

I thought you fancied yourself a smart guy. What happened?

Bmore on July 25, 2012 at 9:35 PM

Since when is legitimate criticism hatred. I hate Obama.

I do not hate Allahpundit, or any of his bootlickers. I do not even know who he is. I don’t much care for his opinions.

I love Mitt Romney – and a good argument. I used to love Sarah Palin before she lost her mind and called for a brokered convention.

There is only one person with the skills to turn around the sinking American economy. That person is also the only person who has a reasonable chance of defeating the hated Obama. Fortunately that person is our nominee.

It’s time to focus on the 2012 election, not the GOP Primary or the 2008 election.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 9:36 PM

I have never seen a single proMitt sign here in MO. Everything is either Steelman or Brunner. Lots of local races have signs out, but never Romney. Occasionally I see an Obama sign, but this area is GOP territory so I wouldn’t expect many proObama signs anyway.

Buckshot Bill on July 25, 2012 at 9:37 PM


But we also feel the mood of the people as a whole. Romney is not making the sale. The left is not at all worried about Romney. This more than anything else lets us know they are not worried about Romney winning.

You’re a sore loser. You’re a true-con. You’re a troll. You’re an Obama supporter. You’re a purist or something. You’re unkind to the elderly. You’re an anti-Mormon who hates Mormons because they’re Mormons. Etc., etc.

casuist on July 25, 2012 at 9:37 PM

It’s time to focus on the 2012 election, not the GOP Primary or the 2008 election.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 9:36 PM

Hey Sparky, that’s exactly what Palin is doing…

You might want to check out the Palin thread posted above..:)

idesign on July 25, 2012 at 9:43 PM

Scott Walker is in no place to be instructing Mitt Romney on how to walk, talk, and think like a Republican.

Oy!

minnesoter on July 25, 2012 at 8:45 PM

Oy! Indeed!!!

It’s mind boggling that you wrote this.

INC on July 25, 2012 at 8:56 PM

I agree. That is stunning. I knew the ‘bots were delusional, but not THAT delusional.

ddrintn on July 25, 2012 at 9:46 PM

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 9:25 PM

I thought you fancied yourself a smart guy. What happened?

Bmore on July 25, 2012 at 9:35 PM

I’ve noticed that some ABRs like you who’ve been quite enthusiastic about Romney’s chances have suddenly sunk back into Primary Mode. If you have a point – other than a childish ad hominen – make it.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 9:47 PM

I love Mitt Romney

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 9:36 PM

Understatement of the century.

ddrintn on July 25, 2012 at 9:49 PM

I have never seen a single proMitt sign here in MO. Everything is either Steelman or Brunner. Lots of local races have signs out, but never Romney. Occasionally I see an Obama sign, but this area is GOP territory so I wouldn’t expect many proObama signs anyway.

Buckshot Bill on July 25, 2012 at 9:37 PM

Come to think of it, I’m still on the lookout for a single Romney bumper sticker here in this red state. Honest, haven’t seen any Mitt paraphernalia yet. Nothing. I see the occasional old Bush-Cheney 2004 stickers though, or McCain-Palin with McCain scratched out.

ddrintn on July 25, 2012 at 9:52 PM

Hey Sparky, that’s exactly what Palin is doing…

You might want to check out the Palin thread posted above..:)

idesign on July 25, 2012 at 9:43 PM

Has she swallowed her pride and endorsed Romney? If and when she does I’ll read what she says knowing that if I offer any criticism of her opinions, it will be described as hateful.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 9:55 PM

Has she swallowed her pride and endorsed Romney?

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 9:55 PM

Who says it’s pride? She knows what Romney is, she knows what the GOPe is, she knows their games, and that’s what’s unforgivable.

ddrintn on July 25, 2012 at 9:59 PM

I’ve noticed that some ABRs like you who’ve been quite enthusiastic about Romney’s chances have suddenly sunk back into Primary Mode. If you have a point – other than a childish ad hominen – make it.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 9:47 PM

Here, let me try. All during the primary you were kind of nasty with anyone that opposed Mitt. He won, you got your way. yet that is not good enough. He had better realize just what he is up against and channel the heavy arty. towards Obama just like he did towards his primary opponents.

In 94, he seemed to have a decent chance of beating Kennedy. Asked about winning and losing, he gave a lame answer and found out about “losing”. He lost to Kennedy and McCain and he had better step it up in a couple of ways.

arnold ziffel on July 25, 2012 at 10:03 PM

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 9:36 PM

Understatement of the century.

ddrintn on July 25, 2012 at 9:49 PM

That’s the first intelligent thing you’ve written on this site. You got me. I not only love Mitt Romney, I really love him.

I love his devotion to family and God. I love his decency. I love his conservative temperament. I love his work ethic and frugality.

I love his 3.97 GPA in MBA and Law. I love his business experience and success. I love his modesty. I love his generosity.

I love the way he used his veto pen when forced to work with liberals .

I love the thoughtful way he approaches problems.

I love the way he won the Republican nomination despite furious opposition from the unbright extremists in the party.

I love the way he is beating Obama against all odds. And I love the way he will work with Congress and turn the American economy around and restore the GOP as a party led by reasonable, moderate and rational people.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 10:18 PM

Here, let me try. All during the primary you were kind of nasty with anyone that opposed Mitt. He won, you got your way. yet that is not good enough. He had better realize just what he is up against and channel the heavy arty. towards Obama just like he did towards his primary opponents.

In 94, he seemed to have a decent chance of beating Kennedy. Asked about winning and losing, he gave a lame answer and found out about “losing”. He lost to Kennedy and McCain and he had better step it up in a couple of ways.

arnold ziffel on July 25, 2012 at 10:03
PM

He had a decent chance of winning but then gave a lame answer to a question (which you can’t even remember) and then POOF he lost to the patriarch of the Kennedys – in the most liberal state in America.

Good grief. Try again.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 10:26 PM


… restore the GOP as a party led by reasonable, moderate and rational people …

Precisely.

Willardists hate hate hate conservatives. We’re too “extreme” or something.

casuist on July 25, 2012 at 10:27 PM

Good grief. Try again.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 10:26 PM

I remember, was just trying to be brief. That’s not the only reason he lost. I’ll try to do better in the future master.

arnold ziffel on July 25, 2012 at 10:29 PM

Who says it’s pride? She knows what Romney is, she knows what the GOPe is, she knows their games, and that’s what’s unforgivable. ddrintn on July 25, 2012 at 9:59 PM

But she doesn’t know enough to close ranks behind the GOP nominee? You people aren’t serious about removing Obama.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 10:30 PM

I love the way he is beating Obama against all odds. And I love the way he will work with Congress and turn the American economy around and restore the GOP as a party led by reasonable, moderate and rational people.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 10:18 PM

Rich.

Anyone should have been able to beat Obama.

The fact that Romney is not should be very concerning to you.

The fact that the base still detest him and he has no problem attacking the biggest hero in the Republican Party right now Scott Walker should really concern you.

The fact it does not makes me wonder if you are just a cultist follower of Romney because he is a Mormon as you are.

By the way so am I. I wish I could support Romney but unlike what you said Romney denied he was a Republican when he ran for Governor in 2002 claiming that registration was just a technicality. That is enough for me to not want to vote for him but the way he governed is even more concerning to me. Veto to get more federal money. $200 fee to prove you are innocent of a violation costing $100. Claiming that all those fees you raised were not taxes. Sorry fee tax both are the same thing government stealing from taxpayers. In many ways fees are worse.

Nothing in Romneys record is Republican. Not a single action.

Far as being forced. No one forced Romney to move from Utah to run in Mass after the Primary deadline was long past. Romney choose to run in liberal Mass rather than Conservative Utah.

Steveangell on July 25, 2012 at 10:31 PM

Good grief. Try again.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 10:26 PM

I remember, was just trying to be brief. That’s not the only reason he lost. I’ll try to do better in the future master.

arnold ziffel on July 25, 2012 at 10:29 PM

I’m not your master. If you want to argue with me then by all means go ahead but try to put up something better than Allahpundit’s I’m thinking we might have nominated the wrong guy.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 10:34 PM


Nothing in Romneys record is Republican. Not a single action.

Yes, but Romney delivered a stemwinder of a speech a veterans hall or something. Now that’s conservative … or something.

casuist on July 25, 2012 at 10:37 PM


If you want to argue with me then by all means go ahead but try to put up something better than Allahpundit’s I’m thinking we might have nominated the wrong guy.

But I really think we did nominate the wrong guy.

casuist on July 25, 2012 at 10:39 PM

Rich.

Anyone should have been able to beat Obama.

Poor.

Obama has the unqualified and enthusiastic support of 90% of the media and on our side we have Sarah Palin and the ABRs and pundits not sophisticated enough to understand they are being played by dishonest polls. Romney is winning against all odds. Palin, Gingrich and Santorum wouldn’t have had a prayer.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 10:39 PM

Anyone should have been able to beat Obama.

The fact that Romney is not should be very concerning to you.

???

He certainly is beating him. (See Rasmussen and Gallup, and at analysis correcting the weighting of polls that are over-sampling Dems)

I am a huge Walker fan and take his criticism seriously. But he’s busy doing his job so have to think he must be relying at least in part on assessments others give him not observation, because the fact is Romney has been setting out a big and positive vision of America as the beacon of the world that has Freedom as our standard. Obama is crushing us, he points out, and we need to remove the burdens he has placed on us and return to that which makes us strong…freedom.

Cindy Cooper on July 25, 2012 at 10:41 PM


But she doesn’t know enough to close ranks behind the GOP nominee? You people aren’t serious about removing Obama.

So get busy and remove Obama. Romney has made it clear that he doesn’t need conservative support. Didn’t he save the Olympics all by himself or something a million years ago? Good luck and all that.

casuist on July 25, 2012 at 10:42 PM

…the Romney camp and his super PAC supporters have been banging their collective heads against a wall essentially trying to re-convince voters that the president is not doing a good job. Simply put, this won’t do it.

It is a real question whether the Romney campaign gets this.

Ding ding ding ding ding ding ding!!!!! Give that man a kewpie doll.

The question this raises in the minds of small-government conservatives is what a “positive” Romney ad would look like, and whether conservatives would find it acceptable. The concern that we obviously wouldn’t — something Romney is smart enough to know — leads to the obvious concern about why he’s not going positive. It looks more like he just wants to win than like he has a vision for governing that fits with the overwhelming philosophical trend of the conservative base in the last 30-odd years.

Elect a more conservative Congress in November. Can’t stress that enough.

J.E. Dyer on July 25, 2012 at 10:44 PM

Rich.

Anyone should have been able to beat Obama.

Poor.

Obama has the unqualified and enthusiastic support of 90% of the media and on our side we have Sarah Palin and the ABRs and pundits not sophisticated enough to understand they are being played by dishonest polls. Romney is winning against all odds. Palin, Gingrich and Santorum wouldn’t have had a prayer.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 10:39 PM

Obama has the worst record of any President since the Great Depression. No one is buying hope and change any more. Very few people will even admit they will vote for Obama.

Romney is losing against all odds. Obama is handing this on a silver platter but Romney has no idea how to be a Republican and win. Instead he attacks Republicans that dare question him. Attacking Scott Walker is just plain stupid.

Steveangell on July 25, 2012 at 10:45 PM

Cindy Cooper on July 25, 2012 at 10:41 PM

the mitt koolaid must be tasty, eh? you subconcsiously told us the truth however. “obama is crushing us”. he is at that sister. he is at that.

renalin on July 25, 2012 at 10:46 PM

Romney has made it clear that he doesn’t need conservative support.

You lie.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 10:51 PM

No one forced Romney to move from Utah to run in Mass after the Primary deadline was long past. Romney choose to run in liberal Mass rather than Conservative Utah.

Steveangell on July 25, 2012 at 10:31 PM

This bears repeating. It isn’t mentioned nearly as often as the notion that Romney’s hand was forced by the Democratic legislature in Massachusetts when he was the governor. Gee, I wonder why.

Not.

Aitch748 on July 25, 2012 at 10:51 PM

the mitt koolaid must be tasty, eh? you subconcsiously told us the truth however. “obama is crushing us”. he is at that sister. he is at that.

renalin on July 25, 2012 at 10:46 PM

What a ridiculous reply. No thought, just knee-jerk lashing out along with the stupid “subconsciously told us the truth” prattle. You’re a fool, brother.

Cindy Cooper on July 25, 2012 at 10:51 PM

Cindy Cooper on July 25, 2012 at 10:41 PM

the mitt koolaid must be tasty, eh? you subconcsiously told us the truth however. “obama is crushing us”. he is at that sister. he is at that.

renalin on July 25, 2012 at 10:46 PM

Your stupid snark does not gainsay one word of Ms Cooper’s post. And she is correct. Obama is crushing the economy and American way of life. You have deliberately distorted her words.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 10:56 PM

Not one of you Allahpundit bootlickers who have criticized me for my criticism of RCP has gainsaid the fact that they are aiding and abetting the Obama campaign by publishing dishonest polls which oversample Democrats.

The acceptance of these polls depresses enthusiasm for Romney, elevates dissatisfaction with his campaign and causes hand wringers like Allahpundit to utter nonsense like I’m thinking we might have nominated the wrong guy – as if Scott Walker could mount a national campaign against Obama.

I’ve emailed RCP about this, without success.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 9:18 PM

And just who aided and abetted the Obama campaign in 2008??

Mitt’s people, that’s who.

But you know that. You have nerve complaining now.

INC on July 25, 2012 at 10:57 PM

Poor.

Obama has the unqualified and enthusiastic support of 90% of the media and on our side we have Sarah Palin and the ABRs and pundits not sophisticated enough to understand they are being played by dishonest polls. Romney is winning against all odds. Palin, Gingrich and Santorum wouldn’t have had a prayer.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 10:39 PM

If there’s one thing that the Mittbots manage to really annoy me with, it’s the part I’ve highlighted bold. That annoying, snobbish, liberal-like “I’m smarter than you, you stupid peasant” attitude. If it’s not Mitt’s lack of actually defining his stances on issues to prove that he isn’t still the liberal oriented governor he was that’s driving me away, it’s his brigade of loyalist, always with blind loyalty to the GOP Elite.

Razgriez on July 25, 2012 at 10:59 PM

No one forced Romney to move from Utah to run in Mass after the Primary deadline was long past. Romney choose to run in liberal Mass rather than Conservative Utah.

Steveangell on July 25, 2012 at 10:31 PM

This bears repeating. It isn’t mentioned nearly as often as the notion that Romney’s hand was forced by the Democratic legislature in Massachusetts when he was the governor. Gee, I wonder why.

Not.

Mitt should be praised for leaving the comfort of Utah to go into the liberal lions’ den of MA and fight those gawdawful Kennedys.
Aitch748 on July 25, 2012 at 10:51 PM

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 10:59 PM

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 9:18 PM

I wouldn’t consider any of the commenters on this thread to be AP bootlickers. That’s laughable.

We’re criticizing you on your comments. You really don’t know what you’re talking about with him.

INC on July 25, 2012 at 11:00 PM

Mitt should be praised for leaving the comfort of Utah to go into the liberal lions’ den of MA and fight those gawdawful Kennedys.
Aitch748 on July 25, 2012 at 10:51 PM

Ha! He just knew it would be a better launching pad for his presidential hopes than Utah.

INC on July 25, 2012 at 11:01 PM

If there’s one thing that the Mittbots manage to really annoy me with, it’s the part I’ve highlighted bold. That annoying, snobbish, liberal-like “I’m smarter than you, you stupid peasant” attitude. If it’s not Mitt’s lack of actually defining his stances on issues to prove that he isn’t still the liberal oriented governor he was that’s driving me away, it’s his brigade of loyalist, always with blind loyalty to the GOP Elite.

Razgriez on July 25, 2012 at 10:59 PM

Romney governed conservatively in the most liberal state in the nation. You are at liberty to show your sophistication and call out anyone “on our side” who is stupid enough to cite a dishonest poll that oversamples Demomocrats.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 11:04 PM

Ha! He just knew it would be a better launching pad for his presidential hopes than Utah.

INC on July 25, 2012 at 11:01 PM

Romney probably thought that Clinton’s 1992 victory was what the media were trumpeting it as…the dawn of a new Democratic age.

sharrukin on July 25, 2012 at 11:06 PM

Romney governed conservatively in the most liberal state in the nation. You are at liberty to show your sophistication and call out anyone “on our side” who is stupid enough to cite a dishonest poll that oversamples Demomocrats.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 11:04 PM

He did not govern conservatively, and IMO CA is the most liberal state in the nation.

INC on July 25, 2012 at 11:07 PM

Mitt should be praised for leaving the comfort of Utah to go into the liberal lions’ den of MA and fight those gawdawful Kennedys.
Aitch748 on July 25, 2012 at 10:51 PM

Ha! He just knew it would be a better launching pad for his presidential hopes than Utah.

INC on July 25, 2012 at 11:01 PM

No one’s perfect. I could have told him he was overestimating the intelligence of his constituency. Putting things in context requires intelligence and intellectual honesty.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 11:07 PM

Mitt should be praised for leaving the comfort of Utah to go into the liberal lions’ den of MA and fight those gawdawful Kennedys.
Aitch748 on July 25, 2012 at 10:51 PM

Ha! He just knew it would be a better launching pad for his presidential hopes than Utah.

INC on July 25, 2012 at 11:01 PM

Exactly.

Only way he choice he had actually. There was no way he could possibly win in Utah. He was simply far too liberal for that after all he voted for Tsongas and ran to the left of Kennedy. Utahans also had other Mormons that could beat him. I mean he was registered a Democrat when he voted in the Primary for Tsongas. There was no open Primary in Mass not then. You voted in the Democratic Primary you were registered Democrat Period.

Steveangell on July 25, 2012 at 11:09 PM

Putting things in context requires intelligence and intellectual honesty.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 11:07 PM

On this I agree.

INC on July 25, 2012 at 11:10 PM

No one forced Romney to move from Utah to run in Mass after the Primary deadline was long past. Romney choose to run in liberal Mass rather than Conservative Utah.
Steveangell on July 25, 2012 at 10:31 PM

This bears repeating. It isn’t mentioned nearly as often as the notion that Romney’s hand was forced by the Democratic legislature in Massachusetts when he was the governor. Gee, I wonder why.

Not.

Mitt should be praised for leaving the comfort of Utah to go into the liberal lions’ den of MA and fight those gawdawful Kennedys.
Aitch748 on July 25, 2012 at 10:51 PM

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 10:59 PM

Wow. Right after Basilsbest accuses somebody else of distorting another poster’s words, (s)he goes and signs my name to his/her words.

The part in bold above was what I actually said. Sheesh.

Aitch748 on July 25, 2012 at 11:13 PM

And just who aided and abetted the Obama campaign in 2008??

Mitt’s people, that’s who.

But you know that. You have nerve complaining now.

INC on July 25, 2012 at 10:57 PM

Your statement is a smear. Mitt didn’t personally do anything to undermine McCain/Palin. In fact he campaigned vigorously for them.

Romney is not responsible for the conduct of some on his team unless he encouraged or condoned it. If you have proof of that, post it.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 11:14 PM

Wow. Right after Basilsbest accuses somebody else of distorting another poster’s words, (s)he goes and signs my name to his/her words.

The part in bold above was what I actually said. Sheesh.

Aitch748 on July 25, 2012 at 11:13 PM

I’m sorry I assumed you said that. I’ll have to watch what Bb quotes.

INC on July 25, 2012 at 11:16 PM

Elect a more conservative Congress in November. Can’t stress that enough.

J.E. Dyer on July 25, 2012 at 10:44 PM

Bottom line.

It’s our only real hope.

tom on July 25, 2012 at 11:16 PM

He did not govern conservatively, and IMO CA is the most liberal state in the nation.

INC on July 25, 2012 at 11:07 PM

Hawaii is actually the most liberal. CA elected a Republican Governor that actually ran as a Republican fairly recently. Mitt ran as a Democrat just a technicality on the Republican Ticket. But he made sure it was clear he was not a Republican no a Liberal Moderate to the left of her.

Steveangell on July 25, 2012 at 11:17 PM

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 11:14 PM

How is it a smear? I said Mitt’s people. I didn’t say Mitt.

But I haven’t noticed him distancing himself from them, considering that Kevin Madden and Brian Jones are currently on the team.

INC on July 25, 2012 at 11:18 PM

Steveangell on July 25, 2012 at 11:17 PM

I’m not as familiar with Hawaii, although I did know it was heavily liberal.

INC on July 25, 2012 at 11:19 PM

Wow. Right after Basilsbest accuses somebody else of distorting another poster’s words, (s)he goes and signs my name to his/her words.

The part in bold above was what I actually said. Sheesh.

Aitch748 on July 25, 2012 at 11:13 PM

I appear to have copied your name and inadvertently inserted it under my comment. It was an innocent mistake, but I apologize anyway. I am sorry to have destroyed your life.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 11:20 PM

Romney has made it clear that he doesn’t need conservative support.

You lie.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 10:51 PM

Get a grip. That’s not a lie, it’s an interpretation of available evidence that a lot of people share. Romney has catered to moderates and independents, and generally taken the vote of conservatives for granted.

We’ve had scads of Mitt-supporters even bragging about it.

tom on July 25, 2012 at 11:23 PM

How is it a smear? I said Mitt’s people. I didn’t say Mitt.

But I haven’t noticed him distancing himself from them, considering that Kevin Madden and Brian Jones are currently on the team.

INC on July 25, 2012 at 11:18 PM

It is a smear. Why are you – and so many other palinistas – holding Romney responsible for the attacks of Madden and Jones when you have no proof that he encouraged or condoned them. As to distancing himself from those comments, how do you know that he even knows about them?

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 11:25 PM

Your statement is a smear. Mitt didn’t personally do anything to undermine McCain/Palin. In fact he campaigned vigorously for them.

Romney is not responsible for the conduct of some on his team unless he encouraged or condoned it. If you have proof of that, post it.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 11:14 PM

A smear is what was done to Palin by Romney supporters temporarily working for the McCain campaign.

NO, you won’t find where Mitt personally trashed Palin. But what kind of politician leaves his fingerprints when smearing another? If you go by that standard, no politician has ever smeared an opponent.

tom on July 25, 2012 at 11:27 PM

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 11:25 PM

Good grief. I never said Mitt was responsible, encouraged or condoned.

Mitt’s people was my shorthand for those who worked on Mitt’s campaign in 2008.

INC on July 25, 2012 at 11:29 PM

As to distancing himself from those comments, how do you know that he even knows about them?

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 11:25 PM

IMO he would have to have been living in a bubble not to have known.

INC on July 25, 2012 at 11:30 PM

Get a grip. That’s not a lie, it’s an interpretation of available evidence that a lot of people share. Romney has catered to moderates and independents, and generally taken the vote of conservatives for granted.

We’ve had scads of Mitt-supporters even bragging about it.

tom on July 25, 2012 at 11:23 PM

It is an unsupported statement which is untrue, so yes it is a lie. And it’s a stupid lie. What has Romney done to indicate that he doesn’t want the support of conservatives? Get a grip.

With that, it’s good night.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 11:31 PM

What has Romney done to indicate that he doesn’t want the support of conservatives? Get a grip.

With that, it’s good night.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 11:31 PM

It was obvious during the primaries that he was only going to go as far to the right as he had to do so to win the nomination. The longer it dragged out, the more he started to go right.

INC on July 25, 2012 at 11:33 PM

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 11:04 PM

Entirely missing the point.

I know the Media lies, I think almost all who comment here know that. But you seem to attribute that anytime a Republican (notably those of us who are Conservative and Libertarian minded) don’t support Romney, you attribute it to us essentially being too stupid (or as you tried hiding it behind the following words: “not sophisticated enough”) to know that Mitt Romney is a “great” choice for the GOP because he’s really “Conservative”, it’s just that liberals override him.

Really? May I remind you, that when it came to the debate on Global Warming/Climate Change, Romney surrounded himself with the very same people that Obama now does. These would be people who make a business off being climate doomsayers, not so much out of concern for the planet, but because it’s a great way to make a quick buck off the U.S. Taxpayer

When it came to the Health care debate, Romney pushed for the Individual mandate in Massachusetts . Yes yes, I know, the GOP supported the same thing in the 90′s. The difference is this, how many of those same GOP congressional members, who were there then, and are still there now still agreeing with that? Further more, unless I missed it, it seems Romney keep’s beating around the bush on the whole mandate debate, even when the Supreme Court ruling came out.

He’s been an supporter of Gun control legislation, and he’s never come out and said if his views are different now on that. All I see on that issue, is how he just happens to conveniently join the NRA just in time for the 2008 primaries and making a couple of vague stance speeches. A reminder of Mitt Romney in 1994 in his response to supporting the Brady bill: “”That’s not going to make me the hero of the NRA. I don’t line up with the NRA.” He signed as recently as 2004, bills that Gun control laws and bans, that have overall no impact on crime. May I remind you, and for supporters of Gun Control, that the FAW Ban, which Mitt Romney supported, has little to anything to do with banning, or restricting guns based on functions (such as Fire rate), but rather on the “scary” factor of a gun.

Those are not small issues, those are rather major issues.

Razgriez on July 25, 2012 at 11:40 PM

Get a grip. That’s not a lie, it’s an interpretation of available evidence that a lot of people share. Romney has catered to moderates and independents, and generally taken the vote of conservatives for granted.

We’ve had scads of Mitt-supporters even bragging about it.

tom on July 25, 2012 at 11:23 PM

It is an unsupported statement which is untrue, so yes it is a lie. And it’s a stupid lie. What has Romney done to indicate that he doesn’t want the support of conservatives? Get a grip.

With that, it’s good night.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 11:31 PM

Since you can’t support your own statement, I guess you lied?

tom on July 25, 2012 at 11:59 PM

Mitt and his supporters are just slightly better than a ham sandwich.

So don’t push us real conservates around or you will lose. But at least you’ll get the indies, oh joy the indies.

SparkPlug on July 26, 2012 at 12:08 AM

Romney… So far. NO SALE.

Steveangell on July 25, 2012 at 9:16 PM

Eh. I sure wish he would start giving me some reason to get excited about voting for him, besides the fact that he’s not BHO.

Romneybots around here aren’t exactly closing the sale for me either, with their disdain for Palin, Walker, and other great conservatives. That leaves me cold. Really cold.

Harbingeing on July 26, 2012 at 12:14 AM

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 9:47 PM

You’re kidding right? You are either kidding or ridiculously fooled. Which is it? Cause I thought you fancied yourself smart an such. Yet that’s the comment you make? Tell me you’re kidding.

Bmore on July 26, 2012 at 12:28 AM

Razgriez on July 25, 2012 at 11:40 PM

Mitt’s supporters will never admit that. I used numerous links during the primaries about the issues you mentioned.

One thing I will say is that Mitt doesn’t hate this country, and I think Obama will do everything he can to undermine and harm our Republic. A post that J. E. Dyer did a few weeks ago tracks along with my thinking.

…Romney’s a Massachusetts pol; a Republican in Massachusetts would be a Democrat in a good 35 of the other states.

Reagan, by contrast, was a defining leader, even philosopher, of the limited-government conservative movement. He did, in fact, do the heavy lifting for conservatism in Washington, DC. He didn’t get everything he wanted, and he didn’t satisfy conservatives on every point. But he was the person leading the charge, acting on a set of philosophical premises about the proper relationship of government to the people. His premises were opposed in important ways to the assumptions of the New Deal and the Great Society. Reagan, when he went to Washington, acted on the understanding that he had a mandate to literally reverse the encroachments of government on the people’s lives.

Conservatives in 2012 understand clearly that Mitt Romney will not do this. He has never said he will, and he has never spoken in philosophical terms that suggest he might. Electing Romney isn’t electing a champion of the American political idea. It’s a tactical move to get Obama out of office.

I may vote for Romney, but that doesn’t mean I’ll let Mitt’s followers rewrite who he is and who they are.

INC on July 26, 2012 at 12:40 AM

The question this raises in the minds of small-government conservatives is what a “positive” Romney ad would look like, and whether conservatives would find it acceptable.

J.E. Dyer on July 25, 2012 at 10:44 PM

Um, J.E., just because you write your blog posts and many of your comments with such a pretentious, faux-intellectual writing style doesn’t make what you say impressive or even mostly correct. Sometimes I wonder if you ever read anything beyond what you write yourself.

Romney’s first official ads (“Day One” series) of the general campaign were all positive. The first “Day One” ad was given a sequel, and various swing states all got their own versions of the ad.

bluegill on July 26, 2012 at 12:50 AM

I may vote for Romney, but that doesn’t mean I’ll let Mitt’s followers rewrite who he is and who they are.

INC on July 26, 2012 at 12:40 AM

I get you.

But I swore I would never vote for another Establishment Candidate after McCain.

I will not be fooled twice in a row.

We are better off if Mitt loses. At least then we will keep the House and Senate till 2016 when we might just get a real Republican for President.

Guess I am from one of those 35 States.

In my book Romney is a Democrat and I do not vote for Democrats. A pig with lipstick is still a pig.

Steveangell on July 26, 2012 at 12:52 AM

I’ve noticed that some ABRs like you who’ve been quite enthusiastic about Romney’s chances have suddenly sunk back into Primary Mode. If you have a point – other than a childish ad hominen – make it.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 9:47 PM

You’re kidding right? You are either kidding or ridiculously fooled. Which is it? Cause I thought you fancied yourself smart an such. Yet that’s the comment you make? Tell me you’re kidding.

Bmore on July 26, 2012 at 12:28 AM

Sorry, but Basilsbest nailed you and called you out for exactly what you are, BMore. Your name always pops up in these comment threads, but you never add anything to the discussion beyond cheap little insults and bandwagon-jumping pile-ons against whomever isn’t going along with the Mitt-bashing or the embarrassing Palin worship.

bluegill on July 26, 2012 at 12:55 AM

This is the part where Allah leads his followers into the usual circular firing squad. Yes, let’s do talk about what Obama and Scott Walker have in common… It’s a shame that somebody would rather have something to talk about with Obama back in office than have somebody who could actually help fix the mess we’re in. But no, let’s quibble over Mitt’s response about Syria.

cicerone on July 26, 2012 at 1:00 AM

You fluffers would be funny if it weren’t for the stench! that’s right gilled one. You are the stench of rotting fish. No one likes the stench of rotting fish. Well few like the stench. Get some perfume creepy gilled bigoted one. You are not well liked yet you thrive on it. Poor, poor Mitt, he smells it too.

Bmore on July 26, 2012 at 1:06 AM

P.S. Walker made an excellent observation fluffers.

Bmore on July 26, 2012 at 1:07 AM

Mitt should be praised for leaving the comfort of Utah to go into the liberal lions’ den of MA and fight those gawdawful Kennedys.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 10:59 PM

As usual, Basilsbest is 100% right with his/her comments. Seems that the HotAir Mitt-bashing club of Palin-worshiping shut-ins can’t handle the common sense that Basilsbest is throwing at them.

It’s kind of sad to see so many commenters on a right-leaning site lie so much. For example, Aitch748′s lie that Romney supposedly doesn’t want conservative support couldn’t be farther from the truth. People like Aitch748 are apparently still hurting over the primary campaign season, where Romney won more conservative support than ALL the other candidates, despite repeated lies suggesting the opposite. Another frequent lie from often-wrong commenters like J.E. Dyer is that Romney never has a positive. Um, people, why do you think the Obama campaign is using the Bain record and Mitt’s MA record as ways to distract from the disastrous Obama economy? Because these are things that Mitt often points to when positively promoting his candidacy. To suggest otherwise, using straw man argumentation, as Scott Walker and others have done, that Romney is doing NOTHING ELSE but discussing Obama’s record is not being totally honest.

Go look at the Pew poll that Trende links. Fully 90 percent of registered voters say they already know what they need to know about Obama to make a judgment.

Further, the idea that we shouldn’t run so many ads about Obama’s unbelievably bad record because, supposedly, people have already made up their minds about Obama is beyond ludicrous. Enough low information independents and swing voters are still holding out hope that maybe Obama’s economic policies simply need to be given more time or more opportunities to work, but the views of these voters ARE NOT SET IN STONE. We must keep the focus on Obama’s economic record while providing an attractive alternative, which Romney continues to do. That is the key to victory.

bluegill on July 26, 2012 at 1:12 AM

It really seems like the Romneybots are far more interested in attacking conservatives than getting Romney elected. Strangely they always seem shocked when their contempt is returned by those same conservatives.

sharrukin on July 26, 2012 at 1:14 AM

If you [Bmore] have a point – other than a childish ad hominen – make it.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 9:47 PM

You fluffers would be funny if it weren’t for the stench! that’s right gilled one. You are the stench of rotting fish. No one likes the stench of rotting fish. Well few like the stench. Get some perfume creepy gilled bigoted one. You are not well liked yet you thrive on it. Poor, poor Mitt, he smells it too.

Bmore on July 26, 2012 at 1:06 AM

Hmm, no worthwhile points yet from Bmore, but still more childish ad hominen. Keep trying, Bmore. You can do it.

bluegill on July 26, 2012 at 1:15 AM

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