Scott Walker to Romney: This election can’t just be a referendum on Obama

posted at 7:22 pm on July 25, 2012 by Allahpundit

A rare point of agreement between Walker and The One. It’s good advice, but if victory depends on this, I’m thinking we might have nominated the wrong guy. Sean Trende elaborates:

In the referendum model of the election, voters ask themselves two questions: First, do I want the president to be re-elected? Second, is the challenger so unacceptable that I simply can’t bring myself to vote for him?…

[V]oters are at Step 2 of the referendum model. They are evaluating Romney. In this situation, the Republicans are doing the exact wrong thing by making 90 percent of their ads attacks on Obama. Although voters always say this but rarely mean it, they really do want Romney to go positive. They are interested in learning about his accomplishments (or lack thereof), especially during his term as governor.

While the Obama camp has been trying to give voters what they want, albeit from a negative perspective (and perhaps part of why Obama hasn’t moved the polls with his blitz is that those voters who are interested in Bain and Romney’s taxes are waiting to hear Romney’s side of the story), the Romney camp and his super PAC supporters have been banging their collective heads against a wall essentially trying to re-convince voters that the president is not doing a good job. Simply put, this won’t do it.

It is a real question whether the Romney campaign gets this.

Go look at the Pew poll that Trende links. Fully 90 percent of registered voters say they already know what they need to know about Obama to make a judgment. With numbers like that, I wonder if his own attack ads against Romney aren’t doing more to sink O’s numbers than Romney’s attack ads are. After all, unlike Mitt’s ads, the anti-Bain spots contain a new piece of information about The One for those who haven’t paid much attention to his M.O. as president: They prove that the avatar of Hopenchange is every bit as willing to throw a punch as the business-as-usual Beltway politicians he campaigned against last time. By contrast, what are Romney’s attack ads telling voters that they haven’t already heard? It’s worth hitting Obama with a new barrage if/when the next terrible jobs report comes out, just to make sure voters are on top of the news, but beyond that, Trende’s point is well taken that there’s really nothing left to say. In fact, that’s one of the things that irked me a bit about Romney’s “Assad must go” comments on Monday. That seemed like criticism of O for the sake of criticism, just one more way to gripe that he’s failing. I don’t blame Romney for wanting to duck a topic as difficult as Syria, but if even I’m impatient with the kitchen-sink “everything Obama’s doing is wrong” approach, I wonder if undecideds are tuning him out.

Question, then, for longtime Romney-watchers: Has Mitt ever run a successful campaign that focused chiefly on his own career and qualifications rather than on destroying his opponent? From what I understand, he tried to tout his Bain credentials in his 1994 Senate run against Kennedy and was brutalized for it. Eight years later, he began his gubernatorial campaign by running on his biography and quickly fell behind by 10 points; only when he went harshly negative did he close the gap. Four years ago, he tried to remake himself as a social conservative warrior in the Republican primary and he fizzled before CPAC. This year, he went nuclear against Gingrich and then Santorum and cruised to the nomination. That’s a lot of reinforcement for the idea that the path to victory lies through keeping the focus on the other guy. Even worse, the Pew poll finds that the one thing voters are most curious about with respect to Romney’s background is his record as governor, and of course the one thing for which he’s best known as governor is the one thing he really, really doesn’t want to talk about on the trail. I think he’s calculating that, while he does need to give voters some sense of who he is, they only need a very impressionistic sense to pull the lever. Obama became a symbol of hope and change; Romney, I think, wants simply to become a symbol of competence. The particulars of his Bain tenure and term as governor are almost unimportant. All you need to know is that he was a huge success in business and he saved the Olympics and he got himself elected governor in a very blue state. As Rich Lowry (I think) once put it, “No one ever regretted hiring Mitt Romney to do a job.” That’s the extent of the “choice” they want to present to voters. Not sure it’s enough for a job as big this, but we’d better hope it is because I don’t see Mitt doing any “fireside chat” ads like President You Didn’t Build That has been putting out lately.

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I guess this means Walker is out as the VP choice.

NotCoach on July 25, 2012 at 7:24 PM

I’m thinking we might have nominated the wrong guy.

No s**t? I hadn’t considered that.

MadisonConservative on July 25, 2012 at 7:24 PM

I’m thinking we might have nominated the wrong guy.

Welcome to January.

lorien1973 on July 25, 2012 at 7:25 PM


Question, then, for longtime Romney-watchers: Has Mitt ever run a successful campaign that focused chiefly on his own career and qualifications rather than on destroying his opponent?

No. Never. Not ever. The problem for Romney is that he is far more effective when destroying conservatives as opposed to fellow progressives like himself.

casuist on July 25, 2012 at 7:26 PM

It’s good advice, but if victory depends on this, I’m thinking we might have nominated the wrong guy.

Allahpundit, Master of the Obvious.

What’s the pool looking like on how long it takes for GOP pundits to come out condemning Walker for being a bad team player?

Stoic Patriot on July 25, 2012 at 7:27 PM


What’s the pool looking like on how long it takes for GOP pundits to come out condemning Walker for being a bad team player?

Ignition in t minus 4 … 3 … 2 …

casuist on July 25, 2012 at 7:28 PM

what about this:
http://www.equities.com/news/headline-story?dt=2012-07-25&val=309953&cat=finance

Barclays executives donate $1m to Romney campaign
Amelia Hill and Rupert Neate Guardian

Barclays has privately distanced itself from its bankers’ donations to Mitt Romney, the US Republican presidential candidate, after its executives were accused in parliament of fundraising for political candidates instead of working to rebuild the public’s trust in the wake of the Libor-setting scandal.

Executives at Barclays have donated over $1m (pounds 645,000) to Romney’s presidential campaign and will hand over more money tonight at an exclusive fundraising dinner in a secret Mayfair location, where tickets cost between $50,000 and $75,000.

Romney arrived in the UK yesterday for a series of meetings with David Cameron and other political figures before attending two fundraising events and the Olympics this weekend.

An early-day motion (EDM) signed by 11 MPs last week demanded the bank and its directors stop working to bolster Romney’s election campaign war chest and concentrate on repairing confidence and trust in the banking system instead…

nathor on July 25, 2012 at 7:28 PM

LOL. He came closer to beating kennedy than anyone. He lost in 2008 because the evangelicals wouldnt vote for the mormon. He didnt go “nuclear” on Newt or Santorum, they were both just idiots. Who the hell would ever vote for Santorum? Santorum got the anti mormon and far right vote.

bball3212 on July 25, 2012 at 7:29 PM

Why go on the network that goes down to 10-15 viewers when the other half of the viewership goes on bathroom break.

msupertas on July 25, 2012 at 7:31 PM

Nobody panic. We can still pull Gary Johnson across the finish line!
/sarc

gwelf on July 25, 2012 at 7:32 PM

Fully 90 percent of registered voters say they already know what they need to know about Obama to make a judgment.

Which is to say: they don’t know anything the media hasn’t told them. Romney’s ads in the home stretch will have to fill in the blanks.

Go RBNY on July 25, 2012 at 7:33 PM

Brave Sir Robins are out in force.

Bishop on July 25, 2012 at 7:33 PM

Enough with the hand-wringing already. The freedom of this country and what’s left of freedom depends upon America having a strong economy. And the fact is:

Republican Mitt Romney enjoys a significant advantage over US President Barack Obama when it comes to who voters feel would better manage the economy and create jobs, a new poll found Tuesday.

The USA Today/Gallup survey found that prospective voters, by more than two to one (63-29 percent), say Romney’s business background would cause him to make good and not bad decisions about the country’s economic challenges.

cynccook on July 25, 2012 at 7:33 PM

I never thought I would ever type these words

I envy Wisconsin.

ACK – now I need to go scrub my fingers raw.

gophergirl on July 25, 2012 at 7:33 PM

Howard Johnson – Ron Paul 2012

Who?

Bishop on July 25, 2012 at 7:34 PM

Too bad not everyone will read Romney’s book “No Apology: The Case for American Greatness.”

It’s very readable, and a good roadmap on how he’d proceed on the economy, healthcare, jobs, and government regulation. With an amazingly good overview on foreign affairs.

Heckuva good job, whoever wrote it.

VastRightWingConspirator on July 25, 2012 at 7:34 PM

It is inconceivable to me that running against Obama isn’t good enough. The economy is in the tank, we are so far in debt , we are almost over the cliff, there is plenty of evidence of corruption, graft, crony capitalism, and scandal, the main achievement of this president is opposed by 70% of the population. Why can’t you just run against THAT???

I get a bit flustered at Romney when he sends me an autographed picture of himself. Are you kidding me? This isn’t so much about you, Mitt.

Christian Conservative on July 25, 2012 at 7:35 PM

Walker 2016

(regardless of whether Romney or Obama wins in November)

Lawdawg86 on July 25, 2012 at 7:35 PM

LOL. He came closer to beating kennedy than anyone. He lost in 2008 because the evangelicals wouldnt vote for the mormon. He didnt go “nuclear” on Newt or Santorum, they were both just idiots. Who the hell would ever vote for Santorum? Santorum got the anti mormon and far right vote.

bball3212 on July 25, 2012 at 7:29 PM

The national economy was in a completely different state when Romney campaigned against Kennedy. It’s also completely different from 2008 when a lot of people thought the economy was merely hitting a brief rough patch.

cynccook on July 25, 2012 at 7:35 PM


nathor on July 25, 2012 at 7:28 PM

Corrupt banking executives responsible for the Libor-setting scandal heart Romney? You don’t say.

Only 2 things could make me look twice at Romney, (a) that he repudiate RomneyCare, which will never happen as Romney is at heart a progressive, and (b) that Romney call for the break-up up the big banks and repudiate his support for TARP, which will also never happen.

casuist on July 25, 2012 at 7:36 PM

This election can’t just be a referendum on Obama

99.9 % of it in my book..

cmsinaz on July 25, 2012 at 7:37 PM

Seems like Walker’s just trying to make even more of a name for himself and get some attention from future presidential primary voters.

This 2012 election is ALL ABOUT Obama.

bluegill on July 25, 2012 at 7:37 PM

Brave Sir Robins are out in force.

Bishop on July 25, 2012 at 7:33 PM

Now that was a Bishop.

cynccook on July 25, 2012 at 7:38 PM

I’m thinking we might have nominated the wrong guy

…well I’m sorry!…the gal decided not to run!

KOOLAID2 on July 25, 2012 at 7:38 PM


This 2012 election is ALL ABOUT Obama.

Wouldn’t it be cool if we actually had a candidate to offer as an alternative?

casuist on July 25, 2012 at 7:39 PM

Seems like Walker’s just trying to make even more of a name for himself…

bluegill on July 25, 2012 at 7:37 PM

And the intelligence of your posts remains constant. Walker doesn’t need to make a name for himself at all, pal. He’s the new conservative superstar, having just won one of the most difficult elections in recent memory.

MadisonConservative on July 25, 2012 at 7:39 PM

Oh, I see summer holiday is almost over and the Republican’s eating their own season is about to begin.

Yum/

JPeterman on July 25, 2012 at 7:40 PM

…well I’m sorry!…the gal decided not to run!

KOOLAID2 on July 25, 2012 at 7:38 PM

And thank goodness Sarah Palin didn’t run, because she would have been a non-stop nightmare clownshow that would have made Herman Cain look and sound like a distinguished statesmen who was extremely well-versed in policy.

bluegill on July 25, 2012 at 7:41 PM

What’s the pool looking like on how long it takes for GOP pundits to come out condemning Walker for being a bad team player?

Seems like Walker’s just trying to make even more of a name for himself and get some attention from future presidential primary voters.

bluegill on July 25, 2012 at 7:37 PM

That didn’t take long…:)

idesign on July 25, 2012 at 7:41 PM

In the referendum model of the election, voters ask themselves two questions: First, do I want the president to be re-elected? Second, is the challenger so unacceptable that I simply can’t bring myself to vote for him?…

[V]oters are at Step 2 of the referendum model. They are evaluating Romney. In this situation, the Republicans are doing the exact wrong thing by making 90 percent of their ads attacks on Obama. Although voters always say this but rarely mean it, they really do want Romney to go positive. They are interested in learning about his accomplishments (or lack thereof), especially during his term as governor.

I agree in part, but when your opponent keeps giving you ammo for question Number 1 — do I want the president to be re-elected — you would be foolish not to hammer those nails into the coffin. Here, Obama says “the private sector is doing fine” and “You didn’t build that (your business)”, both of which are nails just begging to be driven into the coffin, thus confirming the voters’ decision on this primary question.

There’s plenty of time left for Romney to lay out his accomplishments to the public at large, not just to us politicos, and I’m sure there are major strategies on that, starting with the convention and going on through the debates.

But Team Romney and the PACs should, and must, continue to capitalize on every gaffe or screw up by Obama, all the way through the election. The objective is not just to win the election but to figuratively wipe Obama from the face of the (political) earth.

TXUS on July 25, 2012 at 7:42 PM


He’s the new conservative superstar, having just won one of the most difficult elections in recent memory.

He’s an actual conservative, with a record of conservative governance, a record that Romney will never have.

casuist on July 25, 2012 at 7:42 PM

It is inconceivable to me that running against Obama isn’t good enough. The economy is in the tank, we are so far in debt , we are almost over the cliff, there is plenty of evidence of corruption, graft, crony capitalism, and scandal, the main achievement of this president is opposed by 70% of the population.

Christian Conservative on July 25, 2012 at 7:35 PM

Nor does Obama ever seem very concerned about it. It’s obvious to most ppl that he’s more focused on reelection than anything.

Go RBNY on July 25, 2012 at 7:43 PM

you have to use barry to talk about the greatness of the country.

you have to talk about barry to contrast two visions…the barry vision and the mitt vision

mitt should articulate his vision…imho he should say we can’t be ruled by technocrats. he must say that he is not the technocrat in the race…that would be barry

he is not the central planner…that would be barry

that tweaking the economy and crony capitalism is barry’s game…not his. and yes, he needs to say something about to big to fail

r keller on July 25, 2012 at 7:45 PM

Corrupt banking executives responsible for the Libor-setting scandal heart Romney? You don’t say.

Only 2 things could make me look twice at Romney, (a) that he repudiate RomneyCare, which will never happen as Romney is at heart a progressive, and (b) that Romney call for the break-up up the big banks and repudiate his support for TARP, which will also never happen.

casuist on July 25, 2012 at 7:36 PM

our politicians payed and bought by proven crooks, this is too bad!

nathor on July 25, 2012 at 7:46 PM

He’s an actual conservative, with a record of conservative governance, a record that Romney will never have.

casuist on July 25, 2012 at 7:42 PM

And a record most GOP primary voters didn’t appear to want this cycle. (see: Rick Perry)

Go RBNY on July 25, 2012 at 7:47 PM

LOL. He came closer to beating kennedy than anyone. He lost in 2008 because the evangelicals wouldnt vote for the mormon. He didnt go “nuclear” on Newt or Santorum, they were both just idiots. Who the hell would ever vote for Santorum? Santorum got the anti mormon and far right vote.

bball3212 on July 25, 2012 at 7:29 PM

Yeah, no one would ever not for Mitt if not for the fact that he is Mormon…I mean he is just so perfect, the perfect being…and of course he didn’t go “nuclear” on Newt in Florida, all of those personal ads (except for the one Hispanic ad) were just having a little fun with Newt… after all, Mitt is the perfect being.

Playing the bigot card, and not recognizing the truth…gee, what other candidate in this race does that?

You guys are too much when it comes to defending your prophet…

right2bright on July 25, 2012 at 7:48 PM

Romney is not a good politician. Getting this message through to him is going to be difficult.

MTF on July 25, 2012 at 7:48 PM

our politicians payed and bought by proven crooks, this is too bad!

nathor on July 25, 2012 at 7:46 PM

Have you taken a look at Obama’s donor’s? There isn’t much of a difference as far as corporations greasing the political wheels on both sides.

sharrukin on July 25, 2012 at 7:49 PM

He’s right. Kerry tried to run on “I’m not Bush!” in 2004 and it did not work.

Getting a voter to say “I want Obama out of the Presidency” is only part of the battle. What you want them to say is “I want Obama out of the Presidency and want Romney to replace him.”

AngusMc on July 25, 2012 at 7:50 PM

Oh, I see summer holiday is almost over and the Republican’s eating their own season is about to begin.

Yum/

JPeterman on July 25, 2012 at 7:40 PM

Oh, I see summer holiday is almost over and the Rino’s are gorging themselves on the leftovers…

right2bright on July 25, 2012 at 7:50 PM

He’s an actual conservative, with a record of conservative governance, a record that Romney will never have.

casuist on July 25, 2012 at 7:42 PM

And a record most GOP primary voters didn’t appear to want this cycle. (see: Rick Perry)

Go RBNY on July 25, 2012 at 7:47 PM

What they didn’t want was a contender for the Special Olympics.

sharrukin on July 25, 2012 at 7:51 PM

The ideal is that Romney pummels Obama personally, than he starts building the fact that he is a better replacement and here is why…
But so far, he has done great at attacking, but poor at building a “Mitt is better because…” case.

right2bright on July 25, 2012 at 7:53 PM

What they didn’t want was a contender for the Special Olympics.

sharrukin on July 25, 2012 at 7:51 PM

Let me see, Perry governor of Texas, and you are, you have accomplished what??? So if he is “special olympics”, you are what?? A vegetable? Amoeba? Lizard at best??

right2bright on July 25, 2012 at 7:54 PM

Have you taken a look at Obama’s donor’s? There isn’t much of a difference as far as corporations greasing the political wheels on both sides.

sharrukin on July 25, 2012 at 7:49 PM

sure, I know, but both dems and repubs should return money from suspect banks now now. regarding romney, getting money from barclays execs is like getting money from madoff, he should return it now! for sure i wont vote for him if he does not!

nathor on July 25, 2012 at 7:55 PM

Scott Walker to Romney: This election can’t just be a referendum on Obama
=========

Could be,but,I say,

a D*mning InDictment,of the whole DNC Party,and MSM,
who went to bat,and created this Cat0strophic Failure
known as,

Dopey/Ragey!!!!!

canopfor on July 25, 2012 at 7:55 PM

Scott Walker to Romney: This election can’t just be a referendum on Obama
==========

And,Rolling back of HealthCare,and Hopey’s Regulation(s)!!

canopfor on July 25, 2012 at 7:57 PM

Has Mitt ever run a successful campaign that focused chiefly on his own career

All of his ads personally attacked Newt, than Rick…few if any ever touted his career, he only destroyed the career’s of those running against him…that’s the advantage of having 10 times the money.

right2bright on July 25, 2012 at 7:57 PM

If your approach is “I am going to try to not offend anyone,” you will, like you’re in quicksand, start losing votes, as more and more are offended by your lackluster “duck and cover” campaign.
More critically, if you present a small target to hit, you also present a small target to like. Go ahead and offend people on a gamut of issues, because you are going to catch a lot more fish than you loose. You have to present a world a difference with Obama; there are some people that will be offended by some of your positions, but will latch on to a certain issue, like gay marriage or immigration, and vote for you come hell or high water, even if they perhaps are Democrats. But these voters may not be attracted to you if you seem to take a duck and cover approach on the key issue(s) that concerns them; sure, you may be a bit better on that issue than Obama, but they just go with the flow and vote for Obama because you don’t offer them a big enough target to like.
AND get people excited about the election by saying, yes, it’s about more than the mundane sterile issue of the current economy. People need it to be about something bigger. Stress that not only on the stump, but in ads.
AND there’s a thing called Cognitive Dissonance that works to draw in even those that oppose you on certain issues. Obama is a master of that. He brings out something that totally offends many voters; there are those that drop support, but return when he “walks it back” a little. Those that didn’t like his position, but stayed with him, are subjected to Cognitive Dissonance, where they subconsciously reason: “I am fully against gay marriage, but I am still for Obama, that doesn’t make sense, well, unless I really really like Obama for his other qualities.” Romney also can strengthen the level of support among his voters by selectively tapping into Cognitive Dissonance as well. Rotate the issues around. Offend some people, then walk them back in. Key issues: of course the out of control govt & spending, but also things like gay marriage, the ground zero mosque related, immigration, prosecution of the CIA, gutting of NASA (with China this is a potential scary ad), and more.

anotherJoe on July 25, 2012 at 7:57 PM

Has Mitt ever run a successful campaign that focused chiefly on his own career and qualifications rather than on destroying his opponent?

1 Millionth look at a Brokered Convention?

Varchild on July 25, 2012 at 7:58 PM

I’m thinking we might have nominated the wrong guy.

That thought has crossed my mind a time or two also Allah. Why do you think that is? the gilled one, you know the one that leaves the stench of rotting fish on every thread she goes on, says we are wrong. She finds Mitt just dreamy. Poor Mitt.

Bmore on July 25, 2012 at 7:58 PM

Let me see, Perry governor of Texas, and you are, you have accomplished what??? So if he is “special olympics”, you are what?? A vegetable? Amoeba? Lizard at best??

right2bright on July 25, 2012 at 7:54 PM

I never called conservatives ‘heartless’.
I don’t have a history of backing billion dollar green wind farm boondoggles.
…and I forget the third.

sharrukin on July 25, 2012 at 7:59 PM

sure, I know, but both dems and repubs should return money from suspect banks now now. regarding romney, getting money from barclays execs is like getting money from madoff, he should return it now! for sure i wont vote for him if he does not!

nathor on July 25, 2012 at 7:55 PM

Who cares if he returns the money or not. That doesn’t alter anything that is structurally wrong. And I doubt you were ever going to vote Republican anyway.

sharrukin on July 25, 2012 at 8:02 PM

We suspect Scott Walker is following the same path as Rick Santorum, choosing to try to set himself apart and distinguish himeself even more in the eyes of future Republican presidential primary voters. This “advice” of Walker’s seems less like true advice and more like self-promoting/positioning himself for a future run.

The ambitious Santorum and Walker are first and foremost self-interested, rather than primarily concerned at this time with helping the campaign to defeat Obama. Is this disappointing? Well, they are politicians. Still a Walker fan, of course.

bluegill on July 25, 2012 at 8:05 PM

LOL. He came closer to beating kennedy than anyone. He lost in 2008 because the evangelicals wouldnt vote for the mormon. He didnt go “nuclear” on Newt or Santorum, they were both just idiots. Who the hell would ever vote for Santorum? Santorum got the anti mormon and far right vote.

bball3212 on July 25, 2012 at 7:29 PM

So, Romney lost in 2008 because of stupid evangelicals. All his opponents are idiots. Oh, and everyone who didn’t vote for Romney is anti-mormon and far right.

Maybe you should quit helping Romney.

tom on July 25, 2012 at 8:06 PM

Getting a voter to say “I want Obama out of the Presidency” is only part of the battle. What you want them to say is “I want Obama out of the Presidency and want Romney to replace him.”

AngusMc on July 25, 2012 at 7:50 PM

That isn’t going to happen. But that’s not what he said. He said this:

First, do I want the president to be re-elected? Second, is the challenger so unacceptable that I simply can’t bring myself to vote for him?

That can happen.

Axe on July 25, 2012 at 8:07 PM

sharrukin on July 25, 2012 at 7:59 PM

Of course, and you have accomplished??

Meanwhile, Perry is governor of Texas, but all you see is a couple of what you think are major issues…oh, he called a certain group of conservatives “heartless”, than I can just imagine every conservative must hate him,…wait, wasn’t he elected by those “heartless” conservatives???
Forget the context, oh, and after many years, thousands of votes, why look at that, you found something he shouldn’t have supported…imagine that.
You guys, if only you ever had any responsibility in your life, if you ever had a job where you had to make the decisions, if only your parents stopped paying your rent…

right2bright on July 25, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Scott Walker to Romney: This election can’t just be a referendum on Obama.

Scott Walker is obviously comfortable with straw-man argumentation. As are all Democrats and most RINOs. Maybe we can use him to subterfuge the political opposition, once and while. He has the natural leftist reflex to put words into other people’s mouths. Maybe we can find a way to turn his natural talents against the Kerrys, and Rockefellers, and all the various other Country-Club Democrats who typify the Democrat party. Maybe he can put words (and their meanings) in their mouths, as well.

But back to the statement. No, Scott, this election is NOT just a referendum on Obama you putz. It is more than that. And you bloody well know it.

minnesoter on July 25, 2012 at 8:09 PM

LOL. He came closer to beating kennedy than anyone. He lost in 2008 because the evangelicals wouldnt vote for the mormon. He didnt go “nuclear” on Newt or Santorum, they were both just idiots. Who the hell would ever vote for Santorum? Santorum got the anti mormon and far right vote.

bball3212 on July 25, 2012 at 7:29 PM

Agreed.

I try not to look back on the primary campaign too much, but what you say is true. Anyway, I prefer to focus on victory in November and 4 great years of positive turnaround to come under President Romney.

bluegill on July 25, 2012 at 8:11 PM

So, Romney lost in 2008 because of stupid evangelicals. All his opponents are idiots. Oh, and everyone who didn’t vote for Romney is anti-mormon and far right.

Maybe you should quit helping Romney.

tom on July 25, 2012 at 8:06 PM

Thine has speaketh with a wicked tongue against our master…thou shalt live in eternal h3ll forever…repent you sinner, thou hast spoken ill of Mitt our prophet, you shall ever be cursed. Mitt reins in perfection, and you are but a wicked soul, no greater than the viper that moves upon the lowest part of earth, despised by all…

right2bright on July 25, 2012 at 8:14 PM

We suspect Scott Walker is following the same path as Rick Santorum, choosing to try to set himself apart and distinguish himeself even more in the eyes of future Republican presidential primary voters. This “advice” of Walker’s seems less like true advice and more like self-promoting/positioning himself for a future run.

The ambitious Santorum and Walker are first and foremost self-interested, rather than primarily concerned at this time with helping the campaign to defeat Obama. Is this disappointing? Well, they are politicians. Still a Walker fan, of course.

bluegill on July 25, 2012 at 8:05 PM

Trash Walker, trash Palin, trash Cain, trash Santorum. Strange how everyone of Romney’s opponents were idiots, but Romney is brilliant. What a lucky guy!

tom on July 25, 2012 at 8:14 PM

This is why Obama is in big trouble. Almost everyone has made a judgement on him and he is only polling 45%. He will get very few additional votes or he would already have them. Obama’s ceiling is around 46%.

Ta111 on July 25, 2012 at 8:15 PM

But back to the statement. No, Scott, this election is NOT just a referendum on Obama you putz. It is more than that. And you bloody well know it.

minnesoter on July 25, 2012 at 8:09 PM

Pal, put your magic reading glasses back on…that is what he said.

But Mitt doesn’t understand that, Mitt is focused on just Obama. That was the point of Scott, you and he agree. Mitt is just focused on destroying Obama, not promoting Mitt’s agenda (whatever that is).

Mitt has to refocus…now reread the Scott challenge and you will see, you and he agree…sheeeesh.

right2bright on July 25, 2012 at 8:16 PM

AP’s observations have been said in the comments at one or another, as has Walker’s advice. Mitt’s going to have to go where he’s never tried to go.

Going positive in the primaries wasn’t as necessary, because all the Rs want to beat Obama.

In the referendum model of the election, voters ask themselves two questions: First, do I want the president to be re-elected? Second, is the challenger so unacceptable that I simply can’t bring myself to vote for him?

Too many negative ads begin to rebound and paint the challenger as a person who only can go negative, never positive. For some on the fence, that’s going to add up to unacceptable. Americans gravitate to people who can not only go negative, but can tell you why you should go with me. That’s leadership.

Unfortunately, Mitt learned to campaign in MA from the way Dems do it. Only the Dems get away with incessant negativism because they lie about the positive, and the media shills for them.

I’m waiting to see how fast the onslaught of Mittens show up and start beating everyone up. Not too many are here yet. The alarm must not have sounded yet at HQs.

INC on July 25, 2012 at 8:17 PM

Sean Trende is Senior Elections Analyst for RealClearPolitics, an organization that routinely posts polls where Democrats are significantly oversampled and then stupidly uses those illegitimate polls in its RCP average. His emplyer is aiding the Obama campaign with its facile acceptance of dishonest polls. They should be receiving cheques from Obama’s campaign.

Allahpundit is an unknown person with a dumb name (there being no pundity in Islam) who routinely had his girdle in a knot.

Scott Walker is apparently not a team player in a party with a surfeit of non-team players.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 8:18 PM

Can’t be a referendum on obama?…Yes it absolutely can. What is he smoking?

rjh on July 25, 2012 at 8:19 PM

He came closer to beating kennedy than anyone.
bball3212 on July 25, 2012 at 7:29 PM

Wow. Maybe he’ll come closer to beating Obama than anyone.

There’s a goal.

rrpjr on July 25, 2012 at 8:20 PM

The problem, Governor, is that this completely ignores the history of presidential elections in this country. Presidential elections involving incumbents, especially in the age of term limited executives, are always… repeat… ALWAYS a referendum on the occupant of the Oval Office.

Don’t try redirecting the course of history. Just be happy if we navigate it successfully.

JohnGalt23 on July 25, 2012 at 8:20 PM

Sean Trende is Senior Elections Analyst for RealClearPolitics, an organization that routinely posts polls where Democrats are significantly oversampled and then stupidly uses those illegitimate polls in its RCP average. His emplyer is aiding the Obama campaign with its facile acceptance of dishonest polls. They should be receiving cheques from Obama’s campaign.

Allahpundit is an unknown person with a dumb name (there being no pundity in Islam) who routinely had his girdle in a knot.

Scott Walker is apparently not a team player in a party with a surfeit of non-team players.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 8:18 PM

You guys going to attack the entire political right because Romney can’t close the deal? The way you paint it Romney’s only loyal constituency are the Democrats and independents.

sharrukin on July 25, 2012 at 8:21 PM

Trash Walker, trash Palin, trash Cain, trash Santorum. Strange how everyone of Romney’s opponents were idiots, but Romney is brilliant. What a lucky guy!

tom on July 25, 2012 at 8:14 PM

Pointing out Scott Walker’s self-promotion/positioning for a future run and his use of strawman argumentation is not trashing the guy. He is a politician and he’s doing what ambitious politicians do. We can still be fans of Scott Walker and point out that this “advice” of his isn’t true advice or is it primarily concerned with helping the campaign to defeat Obama… it’s also Walker’s way of further definining himself in the eyes of future presidential primary voters.

bluegill on July 25, 2012 at 8:21 PM

minnesoter on July 25, 2012 at 8:09 PM

right2bright on July 25, 2012 at 8:16 PM

BTW, I love it when a Mitt supporter gets his panties all bunched up…and than find out what they are upset about, they actually support…then the fun begins, to read how they try to back away from their big mistake.
They believe what they say, but realize, it’s in opposition to Mitt…now what.
The story will continue as minnesoter tries to figure out how to back away from this…hint, use the Pelosi method, it works for her.

right2bright on July 25, 2012 at 8:22 PM

Allahpundit is an unknown person with a dumb name (there being no pundity in Islam) who routinely had his girdle in a knot.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 8:18 PM

You don’t know AP’s background???????

INC on July 25, 2012 at 8:22 PM

It is a real question whether the Romney campaign gets this.

Oh they get it.

Problem is they have nothing to use.

Romney has a fantastic record in Mass if one is running as a Democrat. As a Republican he did the opposite of what Republicans stand for on almost every issue.

Of course he did run as the better Democrat saying time and time again he was not a Republican and he did not like Republicans that Republican Registration was just a technicality.

Thus I say now. Romney you dissed us in 2002 I will not vote for a Democrat. I believe your 2002 words. You are a Democrat. You are in the wrong party.

Steveangell on July 25, 2012 at 8:23 PM

What’s the pool looking like on how long it takes for GOP pundits to come out condemning Walker for being a bad team player?

Scott Walker is apparently not a team player in a party with a surfeit of non-team players.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 8:18 PM

The Mittwits are so predictable…LOL

idesign on July 25, 2012 at 8:23 PM

Romney/West, if Mitt has a couple of steely ones.

If he possesses just one, at least Romney/Walker.

Schadenfreude on July 25, 2012 at 8:23 PM

… she would have been a non-stop nightmare clownshow…

bluegill on July 25, 2012 at 7:41 PM

…ah…there’s some self flagellation there!

KOOLAID2 on July 25, 2012 at 8:24 PM

Sean Trende is Senior Elections Analyst for RealClearPolitics, an organization that routinely posts polls where Democrats are significantly oversampled and then stupidly uses those illegitimate polls in its RCP average. His emplyer is aiding the Obama campaign with its facile acceptance of dishonest polls. They should be receiving cheques from Obama’s campaign.

Allahpundit is an unknown person with a dumb name (there being no pundity in Islam) who routinely had his girdle in a knot.

Scott Walker is apparently not a team player in a party with a surfeit of non-team players.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 8:18 PM

Wow. You Mitt supporters take “Team Player” to a whole new level!

I thought it was Palin who was supposed to have the cult.

tom on July 25, 2012 at 8:24 PM


And a record most GOP primary voters didn’t appear to want this cycle. (see: Rick Perry)

Thank you for conceding that Romney is not a conservative.

casuist on July 25, 2012 at 8:26 PM

Scott Walker is apparently not a team player in a party with a surfeit of non-team players.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 8:18 PM

Scott Walker is a great guy. Romney needs to listen to him.

And talking about team players is rich, considering what Kevin Madden and Brian Jones did just before the November 2008 elections.

Team player, indeed.

INC on July 25, 2012 at 8:27 PM


Wow. You Mitt supporters take “Team Player” to a whole new level!

Yup. It’s all about Dear Leader for the Willardists.

casuist on July 25, 2012 at 8:27 PM

Allahpundit is an unknown person with a dumb name (there being no pundity in Islam) who routinely had his girdle in a knot.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 8:18 PM

Next time keep yer mouth, er pen/typewriter closed, so we don’t see what an ignorant idiot you are.

AP fought the muzzies, the wild ones, when you were in diapers, it appears. You have no clue who he is and what all he did. He has steely ones, that’s for sure.

In addition, he helped to bring down Dan Rather. Go read his wiki site, for a minimum of info.

Next time keep all shut, so you don’t embarrass yourself further.

Schadenfreude on July 25, 2012 at 8:27 PM

Scott Walker is apparently not a team player in a party with a surfeit of non-team players.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 8:18 PM

Or, Scott is giving valuable advice…
So you are on a team, a seasoned respected player, and the coach calls a play, you know that play doesn’t work because you tried it last week, in fact you have tried it several times and it never worked…so you tell coach, and the coach says:
A. You are not a team player
B. Shut up
C. Calls another play
D. Listens and designs a play around your experience

You would choose A, which is why you will never be a “coach” and never have a real say in an election…because team players don’t let down their team, they don’t let their team run a losing play, team players will risk their reputation to win, a team player is honest and tells the truth, a team player wants the team to win…and sitting down and doing nothing, while the team is running the wrong plays is not being a team player…get it? No you won’t…

right2bright on July 25, 2012 at 8:28 PM

Campaigners often underestimate the value of inertia in voters. The classic case that I am familiar with (see my blog) is the 2010 race for senate between Boxer & Carly Fiorina (R). Carly seemed to try to cuddle into some non-existent middle as if she was trying to do a disappearing act. (For example, a proposition was on the ballot to basically overturn CA’s cap & trade law; when asked about her position, Fiorina said the CA cap & trade is not going to accomplish anything but it will do a lot of damage, SO she would… remain neutral on the proposition! If it’s a bad law, obviously, take a stand against it; don’t remain neutral.)
If you look at my blog on this you can tell that even the CA voters were very upset, and wanted to give Boxer the boot, but Fiorina on a personal level wasn’t the most satisfying, and on the issues, she disappeared, and that wasn’t good enough for the voters. People said “I don’t like Fiorina that much, but I could still voter for her… but she doesn’t give me any reason (on issues) to.”
The Fiorina race (and my blog on it; click my name) is important because I think Romney wants to do the same thing: present himself as the conservative alternative, but then shrink his target on all the issues he can. He may want to find “safe” things to go after O on, like his statement about small business that nearly everyone can agree was wrong. This is a mistake. For Romney, there are issues where he seems to want to, like Fiorina, “remain neutral” where he needs to get out and take unapologetic stands. He’s got to be big on the issues; be a true and proud conservative; be more like Ronald Reagan and win. Make this a repeat of the 1980 election, not a repeat of the 2004 election where you are John Kerry. The “median voter theory” is wrong; appealing to the center does not win; recent cases in point are McCain and Dole. A closer analysis will probably show that Kerry, Gore & Dukakis also made the mistake of trying to “appeal to the center.”

anotherJoe on July 25, 2012 at 8:28 PM

Next time keep all shut, so you don’t embarrass yourself further.

Schadenfreude on July 25, 2012 at 8:27 PM

Thanks, that was next on my list…a poster who has done nothing his whole life, now becomes an internet journalist analyst…

right2bright on July 25, 2012 at 8:29 PM

I’m waiting to see how fast the onslaught of Mittens show up and start beating everyone up. Not too many are here yet. The alarm must not have sounded yet at HQs.

INC on July 25, 2012 at 8:17 PM

They’re heeere!

tom on July 25, 2012 at 8:31 PM

The story will continue as minnesoter tries to figure out how to back away from this…hint, use the Pelosi method, it works for her.

right2bright on July 25, 2012 at 8:22 PM

Or he just ignores it out of sheer embarrassment…

right2bright on July 25, 2012 at 8:31 PM

Scott Walker is apparently not a team player in a party with a
surfeit of non-team players.
Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 8:18 PM

I’m a conservative. If you’re a gutless RINO who spends $50 million destroying conservatives with false advertising and turns around and calls Obama a “nice guy in over his head,” why should I be on you’re fuc*ing team?

I know. Because Obama is worse. And that’s where we are.

rrpjr on July 25, 2012 at 8:34 PM

Trash Walker, trash Palin, trash Cain, trash Santorum. Strange how everyone of Romney’s opponents were idiots, but Romney is brilliant. What a lucky guy!

tom on July 25, 2012 at 8:14 PM

Pointing out Scott Walker’s self-promotion/positioning for a future run and his use of strawman argumentation is not trashing the guy. He is a politician and he’s doing what ambitious politicians do. We can still be fans of Scott Walker and point out that this “advice” of his isn’t true advice or is it primarily concerned with helping the campaign to defeat Obama… it’s also Walker’s way of further definining himself in the eyes of future presidential primary voters.

bluegill on July 25, 2012 at 8:21 PM

Wait, I think I’ve got it now. There can be no legitimate criticism of Mitt Romney!

AKA, The Big Poopyhead Rule: If you criticize Mitt Romney, you’re just a big Poopyhead!

tom on July 25, 2012 at 8:36 PM

Mitt says to the rest of the RNC:
“I won”

right2bright on July 25, 2012 at 8:37 PM

MSMBC……….Walker, you’re for one good thing on that channel……..BASHING THE gop.

Keep it up, cause the republican so called leaders in congress are PATHETIC!!!!!

PappyD61 on July 25, 2012 at 8:37 PM

Isn’t Mitt out of $$$ for his own advertising right now? He can’t start using the bucks he’s been raking in till mid or late August? Which means he’s at a loss to be able to tell a positive story about himself right now and is mostly left with earned media and web ads, which is what he’s been doing. If things don’t shift by mid Sept, then I’ll panic.

lizzie beth on July 25, 2012 at 8:37 PM

MSBSC…..MSBCB….MSLSD…..

Whatever u call it…..it’s crapola.

PappyD61 on July 25, 2012 at 8:38 PM

Scott Walker is apparently not a team player in a party with a surfeit of non-team players.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 8:18 PM

This was you second most idiotic statement.

Scott Walker knows how to win, the superb man/mensch. He wants Romney to win.

God, oh God, how blind can some be?

Schadenfreude on July 25, 2012 at 8:38 PM

you = your

Schadenfreude on July 25, 2012 at 8:39 PM

The basil isn’t helping cover the stench of rotting fish one bit.

Bmore on July 25, 2012 at 8:40 PM

AKA, The Big Poopyhead Rule: If you criticize Mitt Romney, you’re just a big Poopyhead!

tom on July 25, 2012 at 8:36 PM

Yes, you have gotten it…the Big Poopyhead Rule…

Thou shalt not criticize Mitt…pretty sure that will show up in the next edition of the Book of Mormon, after all it’s how you interpret it that counts, not what it says.

right2bright on July 25, 2012 at 8:40 PM

Allahpundit is an unknown person with a dumb name (there being no pundity in Islam) who routinely had his girdle in a knot.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 8:18 PM

Good grief.

The author wrote in the persona of Allah, using similar language to that of terrorist organizations but assuming the viewpoint of the God such organizations follow. (The author distinguished between the violent and hateful viewpoint being satirized and the viewpoint of mainstream Muslims.) The blog specialized in written and Photoshop-based political satire. After a hiatus in May 2004, the blog reemerged, continuing its satiric nature while largely abandoning the “Allah voice”. However, after October 2004 the blog stopped being regularly updated and abandoned the web address allahpundit.com. After occasional entries at allahakbar.blogspot.com, the blog shut down altogether.

That bit should explain the name, goofy.

Allahpundit’s prominence on Hot Air has been a contentious issue for some of the site’s most conservative readers, as Allahpundit is often criticized for his atheism and for his frequent criticisms of (and snark toward) Governor Sarah Palin. [...]

When Michelle Malkin owned Hot Air, she received some pushback for keeping “Allahpundit” on her payroll, particularly from the more socially conservative readers. [...]

Citation needed.

O screw it. Nothing about AP is simple or convenient.

Axe on July 25, 2012 at 8:43 PM

Sean Trende is Senior Elections Analyst for RealClearPolitics, an organization that routinely posts polls where Democrats are significantly oversampled and then stupidly uses those illegitimate polls in its RCP average. His emplyer is aiding the Obama campaign with its facile acceptance of dishonest polls. They should be receiving cheques from Obama’s campaign.

Allahpundit is an unknown person with a dumb name (there being no pundity in Islam) who routinely had his girdle in a knot.

Scott Walker is apparently not a team player in a party with a surfeit of non-team players.

Basilsbest on July 25, 2012 at 8:18 PM

You guys going to attack the entire political right because Romney can’t close the deal? The way you paint it Romney’s only loyal constituency are the Democrats and independents.

sharrukin on July 25, 2012 at 8:21 PM

I’ve long wondered if the GOP wasn’t running an experiment with the presidential election this year to see if they couldn’t give conservative voters the finger and try to take the Democrats’ constituencies away from the Democrats.

Aitch748 on July 25, 2012 at 8:44 PM

Mitt has to refocus…now reread the Scott challenge and you will see, you and he agree…sheeeesh.

right2bright on July 25, 2012 at 8:16 PM

No, Mitt does not need to refocus. He’s doing great. Take his latest speech before the VFW. Yes, he was clubbing Obama over the head — and he was spot on in every crack he took at him — but he also put forth a positive image of American ideals, and American contributions to the Free World, that stand on their own (regardless of the fact that Obama embraces none of it).

What are you looking for? A Ten-Year Plan?

Scott Walker is in no place to be instructing Mitt Romney on how to walk, talk, and think like a Republican.

Oy!

minnesoter on July 25, 2012 at 8:45 PM

O screw it. Nothing about AP is simple or convenient.

Axe on July 25, 2012 at 8:43 PM

But lots is witty and mysterious, as the latter should remain.

Those who have eyes see; the others don’t count.

Schadenfreude on July 25, 2012 at 8:45 PM

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