ajacksonian on July 24, 2012 at 7:26 PM

dominigan on July 25, 2012 at 10:06 AM

What in the H-LL does UNCONSTITUTIONAL have to do with anything anymore?

Overturning law by executive fiat is also UNCONSTITUTIONAL, but that causes no pause for this White House.

Solar panels are interesting, a great experiment, and research project, but not practical right now…

So, solar panels, one mile wide, from LA to SF (through all terrain, Indian burial grounds, ecological preserves, wildlife preserves) equals the Diablo Canyon power plant. That is in So. California…try that in Oregon, maybe 800 miles, Washington, 1200 miles?

Imagine now the people needed to maintain 400 miles of equipment…imagine the amount of energy needed to produce 400 sq. miles of solar panels…

Why are the States letting so much land be used by the federal government? The States are the ones that ultimately control and are responsible for their own land.

All a State legislature has to do is revoke the permission to use it.

And if it didn’t give that permission in the first place, the federal use is unconstitutional.

I’m betting that the States can put such land to much, much better use than the federal government can.

ajacksonian on July 24, 2012 at 7:26 PM

It’s not just that. Federal lands can only be used for post roads and offices, military bases, ports, administration offices (constrained to D.C.) and other needful BUILDINGS with approval of the state legislature.

Federal land use without the buildings or specific items mentioned above is UNCONSTITUTIONAL. PERIOD.

Hubby says mother of a shot suspect has been screaming ‘ they shot my unarmed son !’ …
promptly after he’d shot at police .. OY.

pambi on July 24, 2012 at 8:05 PM

Which, if you saw the crowd, most likely mean’s the deceased is probably another Trevyon Martin.

SWalker on July 24, 2012 at 8:11 PM

Probably. Like all those welfare queens who bawl “Mah po’ baybee! Those evil po-leece shot mah baybeee!”…but what goes unsaid is that their ‘baby’ was a complete waste of oxygen if not a walking menace to society.

Hill60 on July 24, 2012 at 8:37 PM

My house is powered by solar and wind. I live in an off grid area where it was less expensive to go the solar/wind route than bring in electric power. I’m in NE Arizona and my panels definitely work better during the winter. In summer the loss of efficiency is made up by longer hours of sunlight.

I’m sure the resident lizards, desert tortoises, and rare cacti or their human protectors will not object to all those roads and solar structures. Then all we have to do is figure out how to string enough wire to get all that electricity a hundred miles or more to the nearest city. I’m sure the resident lizards, desert tortoises, and rare cacti or their human protectors will not object to all those roads or microwaves emanating from those high tension wires.

Sec Nitwit’s closing query, “Anybody seen my favorite ewe?”

285,000 acres of glass? Guess I’ll be buying some Windex stock.

GarandFan on July 24, 2012 at 8:35 PM

Lots of greedy union jobs there, for certified solar panel efficiency maximizer technicians, CSPEMT’s.

lowandslow on July 24, 2012 at 7:43 PM

I may be odd man out here but they should have no national parks. If states want to preserve land as parks then they may under their power.

What strikes me as funny is this: They’ve found that solar panels actually UNDER perform in the hot Arizona desert. The higher temperatures found here, reduce the panel’s efficiency. Solar companies are having to build larger facilities in order to get the desired output. In addition to that, the solar panels degrade, and the efficiency/output decline each year – so the companies are finding that they have to change-out of panels more often than anticipated. And finally, the efficiency of the systems fall-off dramatically when the panels and or mirrors get dirty. Have you ever seen an Arizona dust storm? How do these panels and mirrors get cleaned – with precious water from the desert?

Compared to this, Soviet Russia’s ecological disasters were the freaking Garden of Eden.

The administration has since approved 17 major solar projects on public lands producing about 6,000 megawatts of power, Salazar said.

well, when the sun is shining…and no clouds.

These guys assume that the sheeple are even more stupid than they are…and of course given the important role of the press in spreading the word…they would be right

pambi on July 24, 2012 at 8:27 PM

pambi:Ya,about 5 minutes after I posted it,but theres this tho!:)
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Police from all across Dallas called to scene of fatal shooting in South Dallas where hundreds have gathered – @dallasnews

Submitted 30 mins ago by editor

Michigan governor declares emergency over fuel shortage
Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:07pm EDT
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(Reuters) – Michigan Governor Rick Snyder on Tuesday declared an energy emergency in the state due to temporary shortages of gasoline and diesel fuel in parts of the Upper Peninsula caused by the shutdown of a pipeline in Wisconsin

The emergency declaration suspends state and federal regulations that limit hours of service for motor carriers and drivers transporting gasoline, diesel fuel and jet fuel to address the shortages, Snyder said in a statement.

The West Shore pipeline that carries 70,000 barrels-per-day of refined products from Chicago to Green Bay in northern Wisconsin was shut for several days after a gasoline leak was found on July 17. The pipeline was restarted Saturday night.

The pipeline, which is operated by Buckeye Partners LP, carries gasoline, diesel fuel and jet fuel and the closed section of the line started about 10 miles northwest of Milwaukee.

The leak spilled about 1,000 barrels of unleaded gasoline, according to a report the company filed with the National Response Center.

Michigan noted that the pipeline supplies gasoline and diesel fuel to service stations through the western and central sections of the Upper Peninsula above Wisconsin.

“This energy emergency declaration is necessary to ensure that petroleum supplies will remain sufficient and to assure the health, safety and welfare of Michigan residents and visitors,” Snyder said.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/25/us-usa-michigan-emergency-idUSBRE86O00I20120725

I have experimented with PV cells and tried to put the new home up utilizing them. Not there yet. The return on power compared to the cost is still a pipe dream.

hawkdriver on July 24, 2012 at 8:15 PM

You have to live somewhere like where I live (San Diego County Ca) for PV to ever even come close to paying for themselves let along saving you any money. (We average probably close to 300 clear sunny days a year here). The problem is, that even here they take about 10 to 15 years to pay for themselves and they only have a reliable life of 20 – 25 years.

Watching, live, here .. Breathless reporters, but no idea what’s actually going on.
Hubby says mother of a shot suspect has been screaming ‘ they shot my unarmed son !’ …
promptly after he’d shot at police .. OY.

pambi on July 24, 2012 at 8:05 PM

pambi:

They went off air,it was about a drug dealer/user,shot in the back,
(alledged),at a drug house.I supplied the linky above,I don’t want
to get,ahem(O/T)……——:0

Follow it here: http://www.breakingnews.com/
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Update: SE Dallas crowd asked to move to nearby church for community meeting after police shot a man – @JasonWhitely

Submitted 2 mins ago by editor

Photo of crowd in south Dallas where hundreds have gathered at scene of fatal shooting – @JasonWhitely

Submitted 2 mins ago from ow.ly by editor

http://ow.ly/i/Nmwg

The Interior Department set aside 285,000 acres in Arizona, California, Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico and Utah for the initiative. Firms can apply for waivers to develop projects on an additional 19 million acres.

…which I think means that the American public will not be able to camp, use for other recreation or trespass on those lands anymore.