And so it begins: One in ten employers already saying they’ll drop health coverage
posted at 3:21 pm on July 24, 2012 by Erika Johnsen
The Congressional Budget Office released their post-Supreme Court ruling reassessment of ObamaCare earlier today, and — unexpectedly — the latest numbers are even less attractive than we originally estimated. Who could’ve seen this coming?
The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office on Tuesday said President Obama’s healthcare reform reduces the deficit by $109 billion over ten years.
This is a new re-estimate in light of June’s Supreme Court ruling upholding the law and it is a smaller deficit savings than CBO had previously projected.
CBO said the ruling added uncertainty to its estimates but it has put forward a number that comes down in the middle of possible outcomes.
In March 2011, CBO said that ‘Obamacare’ would reduce the deficit by $210 billion over ten years, despite increasing spending by $1.042 trillion over 10 years.
Despite their insistence that ObamaCare is going to help bring down the deficit (I remain wildly and incorrigibly skeptical), this is still just a fancy way of saying that ObamaCare is going to cost more than they originally thought — or, rather, more than they originally and miraculously managed to convince themselves it was going to cost.
I also wonder if there’s any way in heck they could possibly be taking into account all of the neighborhood effects that are going to come about as a result of ObamaCare, since there’s no possible way of knowing what all of those are going to be — and therein lies the trouble with massively intrusive behemoths of legislation that are enough to make the Founders roll over in their graves. The distorted incentives, regulations, many new taxes, and rampant uncertainty coming to fruition under the auspices of the PPACA are already rearing their ugly heads, and they’re not even finished writing all of the rules for the darn thing, let alone the mishaps that will come during actual implementation. Here’s just one fresh example:
About one in 10 employers plan to drop health coverage when key provisions of the new health care law kick in less than two years from now, according to a survey to be released Tuesday by the consulting company Deloitte.
Nine percent of companies said they expect to stop offering coverage to their workers in the next one to three years, the Wall Street Journal reported. Around 81 percent said they would continue providing benefits and 10 percent said they weren’t sure.
The companies, though, said a lot will depend on how future provisions of the law unfold, since most of the key parts are scheduled to take effect in 2014. One in three respondents said they could stop offering coverage if the law requires them to provide more generous benefits than they do now, if a tax on high-cost plans takes effect in 2018 as scheduled or if they decide it would be cheaper for them to pay the penalty for not providing insurance.
Oh joy, oh rapture. What other lovely little gems shall we discover if/when the ObamaCare saga continues to unfold?
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So they really are going to use Obamacare to come after us righties, who’d have thunk it?
Jackalope on May 16, 2013 at 9:23 PM
What could go wrong? East German Stasi are jealous.
rbj on May 16, 2013 at 9:23 PM
Is this the twilight zone?
GhoulAid on May 16, 2013 at 9:23 PM
Yes it is. Hopefully it will lead to single payer after Madame President H. Clinton is sworn in.
HotAirLib on May 16, 2013 at 9:24 PM
Guys guys guys… it’s all, without a doubt, a 100% super serious coincidence.
strictnein on May 16, 2013 at 9:24 PM
Er, no. Congress writes the tax laws, not the IRS.
Bite me, bytch.
Resist We Much on May 16, 2013 at 9:24 PM
You cannot make this stuff up. Are these idiots that stupid?
Ta111 on May 16, 2013 at 9:25 PM
Operation: Punish Our Enemies: Not Just Another ‘Garden-Variety’ Washington Scandal
Resist We Much on May 16, 2013 at 9:25 PM
Somebody’s going to have a blood clot and slip and bump his/her head, soon. I can feel it coming on. Or an FBI investigation into an affair is just about to come to a conclusion. Or there will be an emergency national socialist medical program convention in New Zealand that someone will just have to go to …
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 16, 2013 at 9:25 PM
Our political parties/affiliations will be encoded into our Federal Health charts.
You know I’m right.
portlandon on May 16, 2013 at 9:26 PM
So the national grave was dug with passage of DogEaterCare, now they’re smoothing the sides.
Anyone else have that ‘looking wildly around the room’ feeling?
Bishop on May 16, 2013 at 9:26 PM
Say bye-bye, Sarah. Your fascism has become a liability.
Rational Thought on May 16, 2013 at 9:26 PM
Susan Rice going to NSA..
uh..what ever…
This #hit is just getting ridiculous…Blatant, in your face Bull$hit…
I Won…
BigWyo on May 16, 2013 at 9:27 PM
Oh, FYI:
The next time a troll brings up the fact that Bush appointed Doug Shulman to run the IRS, be so kind as to let it know that he donated $500 to the DNC…in 2004…and maybe even later.
Resist We Much on May 16, 2013 at 9:27 PM
Sh*t, that isn’t foreboding, that’s deliberate and malicious.
Myron Falwell on May 16, 2013 at 9:27 PM
They don’t have to be “sworn in” when you go to prison anymore.
VegasRick on May 16, 2013 at 9:28 PM
Resist We Much on May 16, 2013 at 9:28 PM
Meanwhile, the idiots in the House GOP are busy colluding with Barky, Rubio, and the rest of the treasonous worms to destroy any vestiges of the concept of national sovereignty that might still be left hanging around and to establish clearly that this nation is property of the whole friggin world. The only thing someone doesn’t want to be on American territory is an American citizen. That’s like having that alien stuck to your face. Being an illegal makes life so much easier and you have actual representation by the treasonous turds in the government.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 16, 2013 at 9:28 PM
Might be the most disturbing thing I’ve heard all day.
CycloneCDB on May 16, 2013 at 9:29 PM
I don’t know if that even covers it. As bad as I thought this administration would be I ended wishing they were only *that* bad. I am speechless.
msmveritas on May 16, 2013 at 9:30 PM
OMG……I’m “right” handed……I am so screwed.
dddave on May 16, 2013 at 9:30 PM
Sarah Ingram: We will grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation
kpguru on May 16, 2013 at 9:31 PM
I love it when the trolls salivate over stuff like this. What they always forget is that when their glorious socialist workers revolution takes off, it’s useful idiots like them who are first against the wall.
CurtZHP on May 16, 2013 at 9:31 PM
What — you mean it wasn’t two rogues? There is someone else at IRS involved? A supervisor, no less?
No! Say it isn’t true!
Paging HAL! Paging HAL!
Tell me this isn’t true!
Liam on May 16, 2013 at 9:32 PM
Can’t get more in your face than that can it.
Your Healthcare will be granted or denied based on your affiliations.
workingclass artist on May 16, 2013 at 9:32 PM
Introducing: tax deductible abortions. #IRSCare
Robert_Paulson on May 16, 2013 at 9:32 PM
It’s what he always does. Under criticism, he never tries to fix it, but always doubles down.
Putting IRS in charge of health care was Orwellian enough, now more so after these recent scandals. Funding IRS to hire 16,000 more employees for Obamacare is simply out of the question.
petefrt on May 16, 2013 at 9:32 PM
Good deal. You can be that single payer.
Patrick S on May 16, 2013 at 9:33 PM
They don’t really care. Leftists are suicidal maniacs. As long as they know they’ve helped to screw up society, they’re happy.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 16, 2013 at 9:33 PM
The scary thing is lefties like HerTerLerb will still vote for Hilary, and she could very well get the nomination. I’d be shocked if she went to jail… it would be so un-Clinton of them.
Myron Falwell on May 16, 2013 at 9:33 PM
Chief Justice Roberts is starting to look like a magnificent bastard. O-care died the moment he made it “a tax,” putting it under the universally hated IRS. And when the White House has to send out Tweets saying “It’s. The. Law,” it means they know their law is about To. Go. Buh-bye.
The 2014 campaign is going to be awesome, dem candidates falling all over themselves to say that they hate the IRS, too, and no one believing them.
Rational Thought on May 16, 2013 at 9:33 PM
Putting Ingram in charge of this train wreck is almost too cruel. She’ll be so stressed and sleep deprived by the end of the year she’ll need counseling.
Does Obamacare cover that?
Pythagoras on May 16, 2013 at 9:34 PM
You just can’t make this sh!t up.
ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on May 16, 2013 at 9:34 PM
Look at the pic on Drudge of this goof and tell me she doesn’t look like Terry Jones of Monty Python.
http://www.shrubbery.net/jokes/python/terry_jones.jpg
Bishop on May 16, 2013 at 9:34 PM
Will tattoos be required to identify Conservatives..?
d1carter on May 16, 2013 at 9:35 PM
Nurse
RatchetIngraham.The Audacity of Tyranny.
Seriously, you guys.
aquaviva on May 16, 2013 at 9:35 PM
There are no excuses for Benedict Roberts. None. He is pond scum. The only bench he’s qualified to sit on is a park bench.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 16, 2013 at 9:36 PM
So much for benevolent government.
Remember this folks, Obama’s administration has proved the corruption of power.
He as at least done one thing for us, Hillary is now officially toast.
itsspideyman on May 16, 2013 at 9:36 PM
And yes the 2014 campaign ads are writing themselves, heavy emphasis on the Internal Revenue Service and their connection to BarkyCare.
Bishop on May 16, 2013 at 9:36 PM
So were the Alien and Sedition Acts.
So was the Fugitive Slave Act.
So was Prohibition.
Attempted enforcement doomed them all.
de rigueur on May 16, 2013 at 9:36 PM
So weird how once, several years ago, Jeddite was fired from a job. But my (former) employee simply showed me to the door; they didn’t relocate me to another office.
Jeddite on May 16, 2013 at 9:37 PM
Me too. I just said that so the libtard would start sceeching like the moron that it is.
VegasRick on May 16, 2013 at 9:37 PM
The only good thing about that would be that you would, thankfully, be rationed out of existence.
Resist We Much on May 16, 2013 at 9:39 PM
All women behind these scandals. It’s becoming embarrassing.
monalisa on May 16, 2013 at 9:39 PM
Without a doubt.
Curtiss on May 16, 2013 at 9:39 PM
It’s more than that, it’s a warning.
Bishop on May 16, 2013 at 9:40 PM
The only thing the House should be working on at this point is de-funding this bytch.
There is no Door #2
ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on May 16, 2013 at 9:41 PM
I’m stunned that this is how our government works to jackboot “us”. No sarc tag.
HICON on May 16, 2013 at 9:41 PM
Don’t be embarrassed. Most of them couldn’t pass an Olympic sex test for female competition.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 16, 2013 at 9:41 PM
She looks like a real peach. REminds me of Roz from Monsters, Inc.
ted c on May 16, 2013 at 9:42 PM
I always picture HAL, libfree and the other trolls wandering the streets homeless, hungry and fighting for scraps of food. Warms my heart.
VegasRick on May 16, 2013 at 9:42 PM
Hospital Admissions “What is the problem”
Patient “I think I broke my arm”
Hospital Admissions ” Please fill out this 30 page form and don’t forget to identify your religion,income,and registered political affiliation ”
Patient ” I broke my arm…the one I write with ”
Hospital Admissions “I’ll page our IRS Rep. They can fill it out for you ”
Patient ” Mkay…This hurts can I get something for the pain? ”
Hospital Admissions ” After the forms are filled out an appointment will be made for you at a local walkin clinic…Can’t give you anything for the pain, you should’ve brought a Tylenol. We will provide a sling you can use till your calendar appointment at the clinic, The enclosed Care pamphlet is in 27 different languages but is easy to understand.”
workingclass artist on May 16, 2013 at 9:42 PM
You know that tropical island isn’t looking too bad right about now.
Come on Powerball ticket.
gophergirl on May 16, 2013 at 9:42 PM
Don’t put it past some of these fascists. They’ve called for it before:
Resist We Much on May 16, 2013 at 9:42 PM
Doubt it. I don’t think she will survive the democrat primary.
She is not her husband. In fact she is like a female democrat version of Mitt Romney, just that unlike Mittens who worst crime was bad dog owner, she has a real deal semi-criminal background…in which like the black widow people always wind up dead.
William Eaton on May 16, 2013 at 9:42 PM
But Ezra Klein, Dave Wiegel, & the other JournOlist asskissers told me the Tea Party deserved it???
tetriskid on May 16, 2013 at 9:43 PM
Wow…
Tilly on May 16, 2013 at 9:43 PM
The Reality Distortion Field that surrounds Obama is only for Obama’s benefit. It doesn’t survive the people around him.
Obama skates, but his agenda is dead. His graduation speech to not fear government has a laughable ring now.
He can go to his Hawaiian home and take the crease in his pants. He’s given every Tea Party and constitutionally-focused group the fuel to persevere. He’s given them the knowledge that he fears them.
itsspideyman on May 16, 2013 at 9:43 PM
Sad: Back in the USSR: ‘Honey, Disconnect the Phone’
What we have now discovered about Barack Obama and Eric Holder’s America, if we didn’t already know it, is that any belief in a benign and decent government in this country is absolute horseshit. Liberalism has been revealed as a fascist joke.
slickwillie2001 on May 16, 2013 at 9:44 PM
Dude…Share the fun & pass the pipe
: )
workingclass artist on May 16, 2013 at 9:44 PM
Mine, too. I almost want a f@g to really enjoy the moment in all of its warm, gooey, golden goodness.
Resist We Much on May 16, 2013 at 9:45 PM
HEY EVERYONE!
From another thread, this is HAL:
Take him as you will.
Were my pastor to say that, I leave my seat immediately and will never return to that church.
Liam on May 16, 2013 at 9:46 PM
Meanwhile,
MSNBC’sObama’s court jesters are seeing flatlining ratings like never before.They are all starting to seemingly come apart at the seams. It would be hilarious if it weren’t so goddam serious.
Myron Falwell on May 16, 2013 at 9:46 PM
Kindly fall neatly into pit – Obama’s Little Red Book pg. 12
workingclass artist on May 16, 2013 at 9:47 PM
Hey! Speak American :)
Your desire for a cigarette is worth 10 bonus points, though. I’ll have one in your honor.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 16, 2013 at 9:48 PM
Musical Chairs for Criminals.
VorDaj on May 16, 2013 at 9:48 PM
Not really.
The JournOlist batsignal has been activated.
The MSM is already defending the IRS.
tetriskid on May 16, 2013 at 9:48 PM
Now now I know he’s light in the loafers, wear’s mom jeans and throws like a girl but Barry’s still a male.
Buttercup on May 16, 2013 at 9:49 PM
Old & Busted:
New Hotness:
Resist We Much on May 16, 2013 at 9:49 PM
So
you admit Obama when he DENIED that was the plan on every network when it was still a Bill..
You admit, that was the goal all along..
and Obama was lying when he tried to deny it?.
I’ve dealt with government controls, both Medicare, medicaid, and workers comp.. prior with private insurance.. No private company left me dangling without medication, in limbo as they shuffled papers to cover up their raging incompetence on my claim..
The government did.. a month without pain medications after having my spine fractured in two places on the job.. before my lawyer twisted their arm into reopening my claim.
I’ll see you in Hell before I or anyone who knows what they did to me in my family STOPS working to get this freakshow law revoked. Another friend yesterday, demoted to part time, because of the Obamacare start up.
Affluent leftists are the worst kind of elitist fops,..here this is for your own good.. while you keep your Cadillac plans..
and people will suffer, will die, will wait long periods, and if they’re lucky, maybe some kindly doctor or pharmacist will move Heaven and Earth to help them, find samples for them..
but you don’t care..
you got your plan, and if the little people won’t just die when you think they should, hey.. your apparatchik will help that process along..
death panels are the least of the crimes you freaks will bestow on this country.
mark81150 on May 16, 2013 at 9:49 PM
It should be Musical Electric Chairs for Criminals. Now I’d pay to see that!
VegasRick on May 16, 2013 at 9:50 PM
Oh, btw, the ammo shortage continues…
d1carter on May 16, 2013 at 9:50 PM
If that means Chris Matthews can legally change his name to Benson and serve as Obama’s butler, I’m okay with that.
Myron Falwell on May 16, 2013 at 9:50 PM
I’ll join you.
HHS can bite Me…
I’m goin for the fall down DNR heart attack
workingclass artist on May 16, 2013 at 9:50 PM
Don’t worry – Ingram will surely facilitate a “fair” application of Renewal. After all, all animals are equal (though some more so than others).
Steve Eggleston on May 16, 2013 at 9:52 PM
Look at the “O” in the little guy’s signature, Looks like a stylized pu**y—something he is but doesn’t like.
arnold ziffel on May 16, 2013 at 9:52 PM
…go up and down on yourself…and then… GFY!
KOOLAID2 on May 16, 2013 at 9:53 PM
I know you’re agnostic and all. But, being a Christian, I’d leave any church in the middle of a sermon if my pastor said such a thing.
I guess you could say HAL is a thicker vicar?
Liam on May 16, 2013 at 9:53 PM
Fixed for accuracy.
tetriskid on May 16, 2013 at 9:53 PM
“We’ll just have to find a way to use all that ammo….”
-Dog Eater
Bishop on May 16, 2013 at 9:53 PM
Battered wife syndrome. Liberalism truly is a mental disorder.
VegasRick on May 16, 2013 at 9:53 PM
Reminds me of this old post: http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=77103
slickwillie2001 on May 16, 2013 at 9:55 PM
Yep, the Progs have declared all the scandals debunked…time to move on.
d1carter on May 16, 2013 at 9:56 PM
Biden just shoot “blasts out the front door” all day.
VegasRick on May 16, 2013 at 9:56 PM
Interesting comments from the article in your link.
FeralCat
There was a time when the IRS went after Al Capone. Now, under Obama, the IRS is Al Capone.
15 hours ago Thu May 16 02:31:47 PDT 2013 1
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Reminds me of the “In Soviet Russia” series of jokes by Yakov Smirnoff:
In America, IRS runs after Al Capone!
In Soviet America, IRS is RUN by Al Capone!
Except it’s not funny.
VorDaj on May 16, 2013 at 9:56 PM
taking it up the *** is Christian?
really?
hmmmm.. and here I was always taught being a good Christian was something you actually did in good works and the way you live your life.. slapping it on the bar like a drunken Manila pimp with a tape measure..
not so much..
mark81150 on May 16, 2013 at 9:56 PM
That’s my take. Too in-your-face. Too petulant defiant. Practically designed to elicit the only appropriate response from the public that loathes this “law”:
or
Prohibition II.
de rigueur on May 16, 2013 at 9:57 PM
Because there’s no such real thing as a ‘progressive’, we stay right where we are with the the liberal scandals.
Liam on May 16, 2013 at 9:58 PM
Never thought of it that way. Hope you’re right, RT.
petefrt on May 16, 2013 at 9:59 PM
Extremis malis extrema remedia…
Take off, nuke the entire agency from orbit, it’s the only way to be sure, repeal Title 26…
Well, maybe a tad too extreme, but elgeneralisimo thinks that staking out such an opening position leaves a wee bit of middle ground for compromise…
elgeneralisimo on May 16, 2013 at 9:59 PM
Looks like another IRS thuggery connection to our health care thuggery. Next they will get the enviromarxists involved.
This barackracy knows no limits.
SparkPlug on May 16, 2013 at 10:00 PM
HAL talks like a man with a paper a$$hole, as my dad used to say.
Liberals like HAL enjoy reading themselves, but they have neither clue nor experience being Conservative or Christian.
Liam on May 16, 2013 at 10:00 PM
Much higher level of commenting there, btw.
slickwillie2001 on May 16, 2013 at 10:01 PM
no.. it’s not..
and only half the MSM is waking up to it. The other still being force fed it’s koolaid dose from think progress and media matters..
When multiple federal agencies are being caught deliberately persecuting conservatives and half the country just grins..
a second civil war seems far more likely that it did before the last week.. This House has a yeoman’s work in going after these Apparatchiks like they’re rapists loose in a nunnery.
prison time, massive personnel firings, or they just delay the inevitable, when our half says no to the numbers tattoos..
mark81150 on May 16, 2013 at 10:04 PM
Great. It’s. The. K.G.B.
pat on May 16, 2013 at 10:05 PM
Is that before or after she gets more ambassadors killed off?
malclave on May 16, 2013 at 10:07 PM
It’s possible that’s exactly what the Rat-Eared Ba$tard wants. Have you considered that?
slickwillie2001 on May 16, 2013 at 10:10 PM
You would regret that more than we will.
Then you’d blame Conservatives.
There is something very seriously wrong with you, better-Christian-than-anyone-else.
Liam on May 16, 2013 at 10:12 PM
Well, the Democrats are still trying to push that. Remember the GOP convention when Democrats had that “spot the Negro” Twitter game going to identify blacks who had escaped the plantation?
malclave on May 16, 2013 at 10:13 PM
Nope.
Fat A** will never hold elective office again…
workingclass artist on May 16, 2013 at 10:13 PM
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