San Francisco eyes outdoor smoking ban… except for pot, of course

posted at 3:31 pm on July 21, 2012 by Jazz Shaw

No matter what your personal feelings may be about smoking, it still may be worth your time to keep an eye on how, where and when the government regulates that particular activity. There are any number of public buildings, offices and general access facilities where even I will agree that the local government can put a ban on lighting up. When it comes to the great outdoors, however, their reach seems to exceed their grasp, in my never very humble opinion. But San Francisco appears poised to try just that.

Supervisor Eric Mar said he introduced the proposal because of the health impacts of secondhand smoke when people light up in public.

“It’s widely known that secondhand smoke is responsible for as many as 73,000 deaths among non-smokers each year in the United States, and there is no safe level of exposure,” he said.

Like Alameda and several other Bay Area cities, San Francisco already restricts smoking in outdoor seating areas of cafes and restaurants, as well as near building entrances and vents. San Jose has similar smoking restrictions.

But even if they do it, they won’t ban all smoking it seems. The exception?

“It’s carefully crafted also to exclude smaller neighborhood organized events such as block parties. And also, importantly, it does not prohibit the use of medical cannabis,” Mar said.

Well, obviously you’d make the important exemption for people smoking pot. I mean, we’ll tell you not to light up a Lucky Strike or open a beer, but we’re not going to get between you and your weed. We’re not animals for God’s sake.


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CBS News reported last night that investigators believe that the unemployed Tamerlan Tsarnaev may have financed his terrorist plot through the sale of marijuana — an interesting occupation for a fanatical Muslim.

As long as he doesn’t sell to other Muslims, he’s good.

unclesmrgol on April 25, 2013 at 10:44 AM

It was just three months later that Tamerlan left for Dagestan.

My guess is he was freaking out and needed some distance.

John the Libertarian on April 25, 2013 at 10:46 AM

Nice muslim boys like these, involved in illicit drug sales?

Shocking!

and unexpected.

The search through landfills should remind us that bombers need quite a bit of practice in order to get a device that works properly.

I’m surprised the boys didn’t go immediately to the mosque and have an after action briefing with their imam so future activists can gain from their experience.

/s

hawkeye54 on April 25, 2013 at 10:46 AM

Big Sis can’t get a new “pinging” machine because sequester…dontchaknow.

d1carter on April 25, 2013 at 10:46 AM

Works for the Taliban in Afghanistan. So why not here? Face it — it saves on having to provide logistical support for the sleeper cells.

platypus on April 25, 2013 at 10:46 AM

an interesting occupation for a fanatical Muslim

Never heard of al-Hassan ibn-al-Sabbah?

The Persian Ismailia sect?

The origin of the word assassin?

All Moslem.

Hash…(and grass)…pretty much a part of mohammedan history for centuries.

coldwarrior on April 25, 2013 at 10:47 AM

US officials offered to exempt the mother from arrest if she returned for interviews and the trial of her younger son. Zubeidat may return temporarily, but blames the US for all her misfortunes:

Given her statements, about a country that took her in and gave her family opportunities, I’m not going to let her go on a felony charge. Step foot in her and be arrested, tried and if convicted, serve her time then be deported and permanently barred from entering this country.

rbj on April 25, 2013 at 10:51 AM

Hash…(and grass)…pretty much a part of mohammedan history for centuries.

coldwarrior on April 25, 2013 at 10:47 AM

Don’t forget Afghanistan opium poppies.

John the Libertarian on April 25, 2013 at 10:53 AM

UMass students have said that White Hat dealt weed on campus Used it as well.
Makes sense that his source was speedbump.

Jabberwock on April 25, 2013 at 10:53 AM

US officials offered to exempt the mother from arrest if she returned for interviews and the trial of her younger son. Zubeidat may return temporarily, but blames the US for all her misfortunes:

Return temporarily?? Nah, if she returns, there’s probably no getting rid of her. I mean we can’t just willfully and deliberately separate mother and son once she comes back here. That would be unjust.

/s

hawkeye54 on April 25, 2013 at 10:55 AM

As we said, not every plot by terrorists can be detected. Respect for civil liberties means that not everyone who visits a jihadist Web site or is the subject of an inquiry by another government can be placed under permanent surveillance. But it’s worth asking whether the FBI’s methods for identifying and following up on threats need refinement.

Notice the gracious, forgiving nature of the WaPo’s statement. I dare say they never had such utterances and understanding with the previous administration.

What we have here is a very unique set of facts. I hate to rain on the WaPo’s sophism, but there were multiple opportunities, besides visiting a “jihadi” website to catch these individuals.

What worked to our detriment and ultimately led to the deaths and maimings in Boston was the feckless, dangerous liberal multicultural/immigration agenda. An agenda that put the “feelings” and “sensitivities” of terrorist above the safety of our citizens.

People have now paid for that foolishness with their lives and limbs. You might hope that would cause a rethinking of the issue by liberals. But alas, they have instead doubled-down to ensure future danger to our populace.

Marcus Traianus on April 25, 2013 at 10:55 AM

coldwarrior on April 25, 2013 at 10:47 AM

Afghanistan and poppies come to mind.

fourdeucer on April 25, 2013 at 10:59 AM

Don’t forget Afghanistan opium poppies.

John the Libertarian on April 25, 2013 at 10:53 AM

Sorry sir, I didn’t see your comment.

fourdeucer on April 25, 2013 at 11:00 AM

Gov. Patrick is blocking access to their public assistance records. Did they use Obamaphones to plan their attack? We’ll never know.

RedRedRice on April 25, 2013 at 11:01 AM

The Washington post is carrying water for Obama in a way it never would have for Bush.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A53548-2004Jun18.html

unclesmrgol on April 25, 2013 at 11:03 AM

If you are engaged in jihad you can do whatever is necessary to get the job done.

Wigglesworth on April 25, 2013 at 11:03 AM

Zubeidat return?

You’ve got to be kidding?

For what purpose?

Unless she was part of the criminal conspiracy leading to the bombings…what can she possibly provide?

Temporary?

Like these fine upstanding Boston folks?

Aunt Zeituni and Uncle Oyango?

Well known illegals…both in Boston…still here…

They must know somebody.

coldwarrior on April 25, 2013 at 11:06 AM

First, missed cash doesn’t mean they didn’t take other cash. Assuming they are involved at all. Happens all the time.

Second, I’m not sure that there was only one gun. I thought the photos of the shootout showing both suspects had guns. Didn’t the one witness say the younger brother was firing as he fled? And didn’t the police say the older brother was shooting?

But a bigger question should be asked. How did the older brother get the money to travel so far for so long?

archer52 on April 25, 2013 at 11:07 AM

My guess is the fireworks may have been part of it at one time, but wouldn’t it make more sense to use them as tests for the detonators?

Remember, the younger one said to his friends he was popping off fireworks a while back.

No way they didn’t check out that kind of detonators. Even guys who know who know what they are doing test it.

archer52 on April 25, 2013 at 11:10 AM

archer52 on April 25, 2013 at 11:07 AM

The First United Bank of Jihad and Falafel Stand?

coldwarrior on April 25, 2013 at 11:13 AM

No bias here

Msdnc focuses camera on dear leader CNN focuses on the speaker condi rice

cmsinaz on April 25, 2013 at 11:15 AM

Holy cow…. the bias on msdnc
Totally focused on dear leader while the other stations are showing speakers and such

cmsinaz on April 25, 2013 at 11:20 AM

Why let the Mother back in here? She sounds more like a candidate for a drone strike.

trigon on April 25, 2013 at 11:24 AM

A couple of points don’t fit, though. It was just three months later that Tamerlan left for Dagestan. Why bail out of an operation so soon after getting rid of the competition, if indeed that’s what happened? Why leave $5,000 behind, too, if you need financing for a terrorist plot — especially cash that couldn’t be easily traced?

It wasn’t about getting rid of the competition.

He killed them, took enough cash to take care of his kid and siblings, gave a large enough stash to his brother for resale, and buy his plane ticket.

Don’t forget, at this point Tamerlan was already contacted by the Feds at least once, so he was beginning to feel boxed in.

budfox on April 25, 2013 at 11:25 AM

She sounds more like a candidate for a drone strike.

trigon on April 25, 2013 at 11:24 AM

Apparently, they can do that here, now.

coldwarrior on April 25, 2013 at 11:25 AM

It takes a lot of money to support this kind of lifestyle: You Too Can Dress Like a Russian Pimp

slickwillie2001 on April 25, 2013 at 11:31 AM

You Too Can Dress Like a Russian Pimp

slickwillie2001 on April 25, 2013 at 11:31 AM

Just a couple wild and crazy guys.

At least Speedbump was a better dresser.

coldwarrior on April 25, 2013 at 11:36 AM

The MSM – running interference for criminals daily!

kirkill on April 25, 2013 at 11:57 AM

Holy cow…. the bias on msdnc
Totally focused on dear leader while the other stations are showing speakers and such

cmsinaz on April 25, 2013 at 11:20 AM

What — you mean it’s not all about Obama?

Liam on April 25, 2013 at 12:00 PM

Here’s one: MA Gov. Patrick has shut down further investigation into how much welfare money Speedbump got, citing ‘right to privacy’.

Right to privacy for dead terrorists? My, how progressive!

Liam on April 25, 2013 at 12:07 PM

I find very puzzling that the best friend of a known-suspected terrorist is murdered in a manner known to be a favorite method of Muslim extremists and the guy isn’t a primary suspect. He was known to have a violent streak and was prone to violence. Then he he skips town. No pings anywhere about this??? Also the date of the murders leaves curious. Where’s Lt Columbo when you need him? For that matter, where’s Barney Fife?

jaywemm on April 25, 2013 at 12:08 PM

A couple of points don’t fit, though. It was just three months later that Tamerlan left for Dagestan. Why bail out of an operation so soon after getting rid of the competition, if indeed that’s what happened? Why leave $5,000 behind, too, if you need financing for a terrorist plot — especially cash that couldn’t be easily traced?

Yeah. The triple murder fits neither with the selling drugs nor as a fight over territory.

The big question is: Was the cannoli taken? If Tamerlan did the murders then it was either execution because Mess was helping Tamerlan’s little brother sell drugs, or it was to get cred as a terrorist to ingratiate himself with an Chechen organization that would give him some training.

Dusty on April 25, 2013 at 12:17 PM

She sounds more like a candidate for a drone strike.

trigon on April 25, 2013 at 11:24 AM

Apparently, they can do that here, now.

With full approval of our Imperial President, Barry. Like Nixon, he has his own enemies list for our DoJ to act upon. I’m sure he’s eager to try out this exciting new technology some day. Soon, perhaps.

/s

hawkeye54 on April 25, 2013 at 12:53 PM

It takes a lot of money to support this kind of lifestyle: You Too Can Dress Like a Russian Pimp

slickwillie2001 on April 25, 2013 at 11:31 AM

Just because one can, doesn’t mean one should.

hawkeye54 on April 25, 2013 at 12:55 PM

That’s the AQ way. Opium, etc. has funded many a terrorist dream.

EdmundBurke247 on April 25, 2013 at 2:28 PM