House Committee passes D.C. fetal pain abortion bill

posted at 8:01 pm on July 19, 2012 by Dustin Siggins

Yesterday, the House Judiciary Committee passed legislation that would ban abortions in Washington, D.C. from taking place after 20 weeks past the gestation period. While it has no chance of passing the Senate or getting the President’s signature, the legislation is important for other reasons. From my May interview with pro-life activist Jill Stanek:

JS: It says any baby who is 20 weeks gestational age or older cannot be aborted for any reason except to save the life of the mother. There is no health exception.  This law has been put into place in six states, and no abortion organization has filed a lawsuit claiming it to be unconstitutional because they are afraid they would lose at the Supreme Court.

Babies at 20 weeks feel pain, and probably before this. This is a losing issue for abortion proponents. How can you oppose protecting babies who are far along from pain?

Why is it coming through Congress now? D.C. has gutted all abortion restrictions in recent years and currently allows abortions at any time for any reason until birth (only five countries in the world have similarly abortion-friendly laws, including China, North Korea and Vietnam), and so this is in response to that, via Congress’ constitutional authority and responsibility.

Earlier this afternoon, I asked a Republican Hill staffer about the fetal pain bill and other pro-life legislation making their way through the House. Specifically, I asked why Republicans are spending time trying to defund Planned Parenthood in the FY 2013, for example, when the Senate and President clearly aren’t going to be in favor of such legislation and Senator Reid has abdicated his duty to pass a budget by September 30. According to the staffer:

Inclusion of language to defund Planned Parenthood and add new conscience protections is an important first step in getting these policies enacted.  While it’s a safe bet that the FY13 appropriations bills won’t become law by the end of the fiscal year (Sept. 30), the contents of the bills approved by the Appropriations Committees will be the starting point for negotiations when the House and Senate finally do start negotiating a final appropriations package for fiscal year 2013—either during a December lame duck or early next year.  Generally, only those policies included in House or Senate Committee-approved bills can be considered in the final conference deliberations.

With a Washington split between parties, enacting pro-life legislation is highly unlikely. But as the staffer and Stanek point out, the pro-life battle doesn’t end this year. This is a long battle that, with the HHS contraception/abortifacient/sterilization mandate going into effect next month (except for the controversial religious component, which was delayed for a year), is likely to intensify for the rest of this year and into 2013.

 


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“Babies aren’t even human beings.”

-keep the change

Bishop on July 19, 2012 at 8:07 PM

Oh great. Just what we need.

BJ* on July 19, 2012 at 8:07 PM

The longest day in a Liberal’s life is Judgment Day.

hillsoftx on July 19, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Oh great. Just what we need.

BJ* on July 19, 2012 at 8:07 PM

Easy to say when you were allowed to live.

CW on July 19, 2012 at 8:13 PM

With all economic issues solved and the job market fixed, glad the House is going after lost causes with gusto.

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mythicknight on July 19, 2012 at 8:15 PM

Republicans focusing on jobs, yet again.

I’m sure if they try to pass this 31 times too.

lester on July 19, 2012 at 8:16 PM

Good for the House of Representatives! The left deserves to be challenged early and often on abortion. If you can’t find something to meaningfully distinguish the lives of the unborn from the lives of the born, you can see that they’re both human, and you start with the premise that all people are created equal, then abortion is an unconscionable violation of the most fundamental right: life, which serves as the prerequisite for all other rights.

The left, and Obama particularly, should be ashamed of the atrocities they continue to, at best, turn a blind eye to, and at worst, actively promote and perpetrate.

Stoic Patriot on July 19, 2012 at 8:17 PM

Wow! Some common sense, the libs must be apoplectic.

I would prefer no mom destroy her child and at the same time I don’t think our Constitution has the authority to make that decision except when the fetus is feeling child, at least.

Somewhere between flirting and birth is a line, its the line between reproductive rights and barbarity.

At last some debate can start about where that line is.

Speakup on July 19, 2012 at 8:17 PM

Those Republicans sure love local — until it gets between them and a photo op.

Why don’t they embrace their well advertised loathing of DC and get the hell out.

urban elitist on July 19, 2012 at 8:19 PM

I’m sure if they try to pass this 31 times too.

lester on July 19, 2012 at 8:16 PM

…says molester for the 31st time!

KOOLAID2 on July 19, 2012 at 8:20 PM

Republicans focusing on jobs, yet again.

I’m sure if they try to pass this 31 times too.

lester on July 19, 2012 at 8:16 PM

And why did they do it 31 times?
Once would be enough…..right?
I wonder what happened?

Electrongod on July 19, 2012 at 8:20 PM

…anybodyelse sensing an increasing desperation in the trolls lately

KOOLAID2 on July 19, 2012 at 8:21 PM

Kudos to the House!

lesturd on July 19, 2012 at 8:16 PM
turdbin elitist on July 19, 2012 at 8:19 PM

Oh, great! Here come the trolls!

Benedict Nelson on July 19, 2012 at 8:25 PM

Republicans focusing on jobs, yet again.

I’m sure if they try to pass this 31 times too.

lester on July 19, 2012 at 8:16 PM

Their jobs laser is in the shop, something to do with the wave/particle diverter. Maybe the GOP could borrow TFGRP’s job laser, I hear that thing is incredible.

Bishop on July 19, 2012 at 8:25 PM

Wow, that’s weird: A “non-viable” chunk of “fetal tissue” feels pain?

I refuse to believe that. My mush-like putty-ish brain has been indoctrinated with the fact that “it” isn’t human. So it couldn’t feel pain.

What was that? Why is “it” recoiling from that needle being slipped into its womb? Was that your question?

Ummm… my body, my choice! Reproductive rights! Blood for oil! Booosh! Feces on a cop car! No justice, no peace! Justice for Trayvon! Haliburton! A baby ate my dingo! I’m not wearing any pants! I like chicken!

Dion on July 19, 2012 at 8:31 PM

Why don’t they embrace their well advertised loathing of DC and get the hell out.

urban elitist on July 19, 2012 at 8:19 PM

Said the bigoted troll who posts regularly on a forum full of people he hates.

What exactly do you have against black children, anyway?

CurtZHP on July 19, 2012 at 8:35 PM

urban elitist on July 19, 2012 at 8:19 PM

lester on July 19, 2012 at 8:16 PM

Nothing left but ButtHurt and Rage…

The next few months are going to be so much fun….

BigWyo on July 19, 2012 at 8:40 PM

Kudos to the House!

lesturd on July 19, 2012 at 8:16 PM
turdbin elitist on July 19, 2012 at 8:19 PM

Oh, great! Here come the trolls!

Benedict Nelson on July 19, 2012 at 8:25 PM

Yep; urban onanist, spinach boy, inthemiddleofobamasbuttcheeks, Phlegmatic, sesquipedophilian, upperyeastside…

This topic brings them out like roaches when you turn off the lights.

slickwillie2001 on July 19, 2012 at 8:41 PM

“Babies aren’t even human beings.”

In bluest of blue California, Penal Code Sec. 187 defines murder as the killing of a human being or a fetus with malice aforethought, death of the fetus results from an abortion performed in accordance with Sec. 123400,et seq. of the Health and Safety Code. Ponder that concept for a moment. As the Penal Code statute is construed, if one intends to cause physical harm with an abandoned or malignant heart (Penal Code Sec 188), but not specifically death, to a woman who just happens to be pregnant and in the act of perpetrating such harm the fetus is killed, then a charge of murder can be made.

Now read the California statue in light of the 14th Amendment to the US Constitution which states no person shall be denied equal protection of the laws. If that fetus is a person, then abortion is murder in California. If the fetus is not a person, the anyone charged with murder of a fetus should not be convicted of murder under this statue since the fetus cannot give its consent to a licensed medical practitioner tto being killed and both the medical practitioner and one who otherwise kills the fetus must be treated equally.

Now try to tell any liberal in California that abortion is murder and you will get laughed at with all the usual retorts that it is the woman’s body and a clump of cells. Then ask then to explain how then can killing of a fetus outside of an abortion expose someone to conviction of for murder with malice aforethought if that fetus is nothing more than a clump of cells, and you will likely get a blank stare and contorted reasoning.

Then try explaining to that same person that a fetus has a viable nervous system and can feel pain. Tell that person as a sensitive liberal Californian the sensitivity must extend to all non-human creatures that can feel pain to the extent that California has passed laws to protect chickens living in cages and ban the consumption of foie gras because it is just too cruel to force feed a duck. Then ask that liberal Californian how can chickens and ducks be more worthy of protection from pain than a human fetus.

GeoffK on July 19, 2012 at 8:46 PM

Said the bigoted troll who posts regularly on a forum full of people he hates.

What exactly do you have against black children, anyway?

CurtZHP on July 19, 2012 at 8:35 PM

Heh. I like you guys. You bring me joy.

Not sure where this hatred of black children thing came from — was it my contempt for that other Republican photo op, a half-a**ed attempt to pretend they care about the urban poor?

The next few months are going to be so much fun….

BigWyo on July 19, 2012 at 8:40 PM

As it becomes increasingly obvious that Romney is an Economic Royalist Cyborg who used a Swiss bank account to illegally avoid taxes and is chronically unelectable.

urban elitist on July 19, 2012 at 8:50 PM

Yesterday, the House Judiciary Committee passed legislation that would ban abortions in Washington, D.C. from taking place after 20 weeks past the gestation period.

Don’t you mean into the gestational period?

itsnotaboutme on July 19, 2012 at 8:55 PM

As it becomes increasingly obvious that Romney is an Economic Royalist Cyborg who used a Swiss bank account to illegally avoid taxes and is chronically unelectable.

urban elitist on July 19, 2012 at 8:50 PM

Ok, I forgot one…

ButtHurt, Rage and Inane Nonsensical Bull$hit…

BigWyo on July 19, 2012 at 8:56 PM

Behold the fools in this thread who claim to be conservatives, yet they slam efforts to uphold the Right To Life enunciated in the Declaration of Independence.

“Money matters are more important than stopping the murder of kids!”

P a t h e t i c .

itsnotaboutme on July 19, 2012 at 8:58 PM

Abortion.

The American Holocaust.

If there were any single event or issue that can be pointed to as the pivotal moment when the nation lost its moral compass, Roe v. Wade was that moment.

It was the moment when the phrase “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness” was redefined from human beings striving for individual liberty in a world full of tyranny, to an excuse to get laid without consequence with some girl/guy whose name you do not know, or when you have a “mistake” and don’t feel like facing the consequences.

You see, there is no point in a human being’s life where he is not a human being, when he is not alive. He is alive before his conception, in the eggs that his mother formed before her birth, in the sperm created by his father. He is human when those two things combine to form a new and independent life. He is human throughout his gestation; his reliance upon his mother for shelter and nourishment is not more or less vital to his survival than his great-grandfather who suffers from Alzheimer’s disease living in a nursing home.

No. We are all part of the human family and no one has the moral right to extinguish another’s life simply because that person is inconvenient.

turfmann on July 19, 2012 at 8:58 PM

The longest day in a Liberal’s life is Judgment Day.

hillsoftx on July 19, 2012 at 8:08 PM

When liberals choose to make their signature issue the right to murder a helpless baby in the womb (that’s fetus in liberal speak), then they have chosen death over life and should live in mortal fear of “Judgement Day”

Having chosen death for the most helpless among us, our infants, can the euthanasia of our elderly be far behind?

When life becomes expendable, how soon will it be before they come for us as well? In a society of death, death is never far away.

ariel on July 19, 2012 at 9:01 PM

BigWyo on July 19, 2012 at 8:56 PM

How sad you’re going to be when Romney loses. Like the day you found out there was no Santa Clause.

Reality is a bi***.

urban elitist on July 19, 2012 at 9:07 PM

How sad you’re going to be when Romney loses. Like the day you found out there was no Santa Clause.

Reality is a bi***.

urban elitist on July 19, 2012 at 9:07 PM

Are you through marking your territory? If so, get back in your cage.

ariel on July 19, 2012 at 9:10 PM

This country will never accept the criminalization of abortion. The only thing the effort will accomplish is to render the Republican Party unelectable.

wbcoleman on July 19, 2012 at 9:49 PM

As long as this country turns a blind eye to this type of murder, we have no chance of ever enjoying peace and prosperity ever again.

tom daschle concerned on July 19, 2012 at 9:53 PM

was it my contempt for that other Republican photo op, a half-a**ed attempt to pretend they care about the urban poor?

urban elitist on July 19, 2012 at 8:50 PM

Ah, I keep forgetting, it’s only the poor black children you don’t like.

CurtZHP on July 19, 2012 at 10:24 PM

Ugh. What happened to “It’s the economy, and we’re not stupid”? Way to dilute your message GOP.

ak90049 on July 19, 2012 at 10:32 PM

Ugh. What happened to “It’s the economy, and we’re not stupid”? Way to dilute your message GOP.

ak90049 on July 19, 2012 at 10:32 PM

Unlike liberals, we can chew gum and walk at the same time… besides, integrity and morality IS part of our message.

dominigan on July 20, 2012 at 12:13 AM

Unlike liberals, we can chew gum and walk at the same time… besides, integrity and morality IS part of our message.

dominigan on July 20, 2012 at 12:13 AM

You might have to get out the Websters. I don’t think libs know what those words mean.

(Btw libs, Websters is a dictionary.)

Sterling Holobyte on July 20, 2012 at 12:41 AM

The longest day in a Liberal’s life is Judgment Day.

hillsoftx on July 19, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Oh, I disagree: it will be the shortest day in their life.

The next day, however…

Kraken on July 20, 2012 at 2:16 AM

Forgive me if this is a bit of a wet-blanket statement, but assuming that Roe isn’t also overturned, what exactly will this do to slow the flood of convenience abortions?

MelonCollie on July 20, 2012 at 7:11 AM

urban elitist on July 19, 2012 at 8:50 PM

You’re just a walking talking point. I ask you to please ask for your money back from whatever schools you attended. Your grammar, spelling, and ability to think at a level higher than a grade school student is embarrassing.

CW on July 20, 2012 at 7:25 AM

Republicans focusing on jobs, yet again.

I’m sure if they try to pass this 31 times too.

lester on July 19, 2012 at 8:16 PM

This is more important than jobs.

Shump on July 20, 2012 at 7:38 AM

Sure this President would veto and a Democrat Senate would kill a move to stop an activity you’d be arrested for if you did it to a dog.

curved space on July 20, 2012 at 8:20 AM

I believe there should be an exemption for babies who have been deemed non-viable, or have critical/fatal diseases that will lead to an inevitable [and painful] death soon after birth. I don’t believe a mother should be forced to carry a child that is not going to survive. To me, it’s an act of mercy, both to the child that will still be feeling intense pain later, and to the parents of the child. I think in such rare/tragic situations, it should be up to the parents to decide.

Not expecting many people here to agree with me, but it’s another perspective to take as you will.

Violina23 on July 20, 2012 at 8:43 AM

Violina23 on July 20, 2012 at 8:43 AM

I also believe that the choice should be up to the parents in such cases. And for the fanatics, such cases are astoundingly rare, so kindly save your wrath for convenience abortions.

MelonCollie on July 20, 2012 at 11:48 PM