Pot legalization advocates praise hands-off approach of…Bush?

posted at 9:21 am on July 18, 2012 by Mary Katharine Ham

The federal government announced this week it’s targeting California’s biggest medical marijuana dispensary— Harborside Health Center in Oakland— for closure and asset seizure. In one of the oddest cases of the Miss-Me-Yet phenomenon, the deputy director of the National Organization to Reform Marijuana Laws (NORML) had this to say about it:

Many of California’s most prominent and well-respected medical cannabis dispensaries and related facilities — including Oaksterdam University, Berkeley Patients Group, and Harborside Health Center (HHC) — flourished under the George W. Bush administration. But they’ll be lucky to survive President Barack Obama’s first term.

On Tuesday, federal prosecutors targeted Harborside Health Center in Oakland, as well as its sister facility in San Jose, for closure and civil asset forfeiture. In court papers filed by the US Attorney for the northern district of California, Melinda Haag, the federal government alleges that Harborside is “operating in violation of federal law” by providing cannabis to state-qualified patients.

This is— shocker!— a violation of an Obama campaign promise not to prioritize medical marijuana dispensaries operating within state law. It also contradicts what Attorney General Eric Holder said in June to soothe activists in the face of crack downs.

“We limit our enforcement efforts to those individuals, organizations that are acting out of conformity with state law,” Mr. Holder told a House Judiciary Committee oversight hearing.

The debate over the Obama DEA’s increased oversight has been simmering online since he took office, but in Harborside, Obama has targeted a dispensary that is happy to fight him, in the open, and put sympathetic faces on its plight. Harborside started its push-back with a press conference featuring the father of a five-year-old named Jayden with severe seizures— “Can you imagine your kids having seizures every single day? Being in pain 12 to 14 hours a day? Crying and screaming?” This should look familiar to a community organizer. Although, on a stylistic note, if Harborside’s proprietors would change out of these clothes, they might have more luck with their pitch to the mainstream.

A study of DEA FOIA requests by reporter Mike Riggs at Reason Magazine puts some hard data to NORML’s assertions:

According to a comparison of publicly available data from FOIA.gov, the DEA rejected more FOIA requests in 2009, 2010, and 2011 than it did during the last year of George W. Bush’s administration.

When every FOIA exemption is taken into account (exemptions are the legal exceptions that allow agencies to withhold information from requesters), the DEA cited 2,195 exemptions in 2011, a 114 percent increase over 2008, when it cited only 1,024 exemptions.

Meanwhile, in Colorado, pro-legalization advocates are appropriating an interesting figure for their billboard campaign— Pat Robertson:

Robertson is not working with the campaign and did not approve the ad before its placement. A spokesman for Robertson had no immediate comment on the ad.

At least twice, the evangelical leader has publicly offered his support for decriminalizing marijuana. In March 2012, he told The New York Times that he “absolutely” supports pot-legalization measures that will appear on November ballots in Colorado and Washington, but that he would not campaign for those initiatives.

“I really believe we should treat marijuana the way we treat beverage alcohol,” Robertson told the Times. “I’ve never used marijuana and I don’t intend to, but it’s just one of those things that I think.This war on drugs just hasn’t succeeded.”

Cool kids George W. Bush and Pat Robertson vs. statist stick-in-the-mud, Obama? Maybe that explains some of the 18-29 polling.

Our president is rather fond of making law enforcement decisions on a piecemeal basis— see Dream kids and DOMA— so why not make this one of the ones he declines to enforce? He could pretty easily make a federalism argument for not going guns-blazing into dispensaries obeying state law, and in fact, that was his explanation of his campaign promise. Does he imagine the upside of looking like a tough, law-and-order type with older independents and conservative Democrats is worth the disillusionment of his young, hip base? I’m not so sure, now that legalization has hit 50 percent in the Gallup poll. Ten of the 16 subgroups Gallup tested support legalization at 50 percent or above. Women, southerners, Republicans, conservatives, and 65+ are all under 50 percent (50-64-year-olds just barely, at 49 percent).

Is it the combo of women and 65+ that’s calling him? If bin Laden’s not earning him those tough-guy votes, I’m doubtful pot busts do the trick, but I could be misreading. Would they really notice if the status quo were maintained in California? Maybe it’s an overture to centrists and older voters in swing-state Colorado, which allows medical marijuana dispensaries and has a pot legalization measure on the ballot. Federal agents have threatened dispensaries there, but only because of alleged violations of state law, in accordance with Obama’s campaign promise. This Reuters story bets young people will turn out in large numbers for marijuana legalization, ironically giving the anti-pot president a boost where he needs it most. Sigh, stoners.

On the other hand, Obama is more than happy to get involved in state laws when he doesn’t happen to like them— see voter ID and Arizona immigration. Could it be Obama’s choom policy is just a reflection of his true beliefs and not politics?

Nah.

If nothing else, this may offer some good protesting of Obama by would-be friendlies. What looks like Occupy but acts like a Tea Party?

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What looks like Occupy but acts like a Tea Party?

Ron Paul fans!

Good Lt on July 18, 2012 at 9:22 AM

And to think that all the hop heads were under the impression that Senator Choom would be a brother dope smoker once in the White House.

That’s what you get for smoking away your brain and only socializing through your Counter Strike clan.

Bishop on July 18, 2012 at 9:23 AM

The medical pot companies did not build their business, and they have assets to take.

Nothing to see here. Move along.

WhatNot on July 18, 2012 at 9:23 AM

The federal government announced this week it’s targeting California’s biggest medical marijuana dispensary— Harborside Health Center in Oakland— for closure and asset seizure.

President Ochooma will take personal charge of the inventory process and the storage of all evidence…

Akzed on July 18, 2012 at 9:24 AM

Ruff hits..
or is that roof hits…

Electrongod on July 18, 2012 at 9:24 AM

Statist pint-sized tyrant continues to act like a statist pint-sized tyrant.

News at 11.

thirtyandseven on July 18, 2012 at 9:25 AM

Although, on a stylistic note, if Harborside’s proprietors would change out of these clothes, they might have more luck with their pitch to the mainstream.

The dude is wearing a sundress under the sportcoat. Yeah, that will get your average blue collar family to come out in support.

Bishop on July 18, 2012 at 9:30 AM

This is a 10th Amendment issue. Let the states deal with it as they wish. Personally I have no love towards pot or pot heads but it’s a states right issue.

MoreLiberty on July 18, 2012 at 9:30 AM

While the MSM is breathlessly trying to pin a felony on Mitt for working at a real job, they have a picture of the current Preezy actually committing a felony.

This stuff is too easy.

dirtseller on July 18, 2012 at 9:31 AM

Choom for me but not for thee!

Herb on July 18, 2012 at 9:31 AM

All Pothead Bush’s Fault!

Del Dolemonte on July 18, 2012 at 9:32 AM

Who does this help? Not Romney:

Penn Jillette & Gary Johnson Lament NY’s Marijuana Decriminalization Doesn’t Go Far Enough

DannoJyd on July 18, 2012 at 9:33 AM

Today, I’m ambivalent about legalization.
What gets my goat is 0bama’s meddling in every aspect of governance of sovereign states and of free individuals.

I suppose in his world, sovereign states and free individuals would be oxymorons.

What a maroon!

freedomfirst on July 18, 2012 at 9:33 AM

Pot legalization advocates praise hands-off approach of…Bush?

No room for choom

MKH,
Speaking of a “hands-off approach” and “no room for” something… When will you or anyone else at HotAir comment on the fact that whether or not Obama himself created it, the White House web site contains a PDF purporting to be Obama’s Birth Certificate, but an official law enforcement investigation has found that the PDF is “undoubtedly a fraud”. And that Hawaiian law allowed people born outside of the state (even outside the USA) to get a Hawaiian Birth Certificate.

This is an illegal immigration/national security issue.

July 17, 2012
EXHAUSTIVE INQUIRY LEADS TO NEW INFORMATION
SHERIFF’S INVESTIGATORS:

“PRESIDENT’S LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE IS UNDOUBTEDLY A FRAUD”

=======================
= Press Conference Video =
=======================

ITguy on July 18, 2012 at 9:36 AM

What people fail to understand is that a malevolent micromanaging socialist like Obama is INCAPABLE of keeping his hands off anything.

wildcat72 on July 18, 2012 at 9:36 AM

Our president is rather fond of making law enforcement decisions on a piecemeal basis— see Dream kids and DOMA— so why not make this one of the ones he declines to enforce? He could pretty easily make a federalism argument for not going guns-blazing into dispensaries obeying state law, and in fact, that was his explanation of his campaign promise.

Tutto nello Stato, niente al di fuori dello Stato, nulla contro lo Stato “Everything in the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State”

These medical marijuana dispensaries are operating outside of the federal government. Therefore they must be closed.

Fascist-in-Chief.

rbj on July 18, 2012 at 9:37 AM

The federal government announced this week it’s targeting California’s biggest medical marijuana dispensary— Harborside Health Center in Oakland— for closure and asset seizure

…they just want “the stuff”!

KOOLAID2 on July 18, 2012 at 9:38 AM

In Obama’s world, federal trumps state everytime.

Bitter Clinger on July 18, 2012 at 9:39 AM

ITguy on July 18, 2012 at 9:36 AM

Dude, I’m sorry but the birth certificate issue is a non-starter because if it did become an issue 0bama could easily get a fool proof forged document sent out and that issue would backfore on those pushing it.

FAIL!

In case you’ve forgotten, a birth certificate if a GOVERNMENT DOCUMENT, and 0bama holds the highest office in Government.

DannoJyd on July 18, 2012 at 9:41 AM

Yep. It’s another shining example of Obama’s complete disregard for States’ Rights, which should be something that conservatives are as upset about as SB1070…but no. For some people, what’s more important is the boogeyman they’ve created in their mind about the evil Devil Reefer. Further evidence of Obama being a tyrant be damned!

MadisonConservative on July 18, 2012 at 9:42 AM

In Obama’s world, federal trumps state everytime.

Bitter Clinger on July 18, 2012 at 9:39 AM

That is what America voted for, and those that stayed home in 2008 refuse to accept their share of the responsibility for that and they will stay home again.

DannoJyd on July 18, 2012 at 9:43 AM

In case you’ve forgotten, a birth certificate if a GOVERNMENT DOCUMENT, and 0bama holds the highest office in Government.

DannoJyd on July 18, 2012 at 9:41 AM

The only and best way to get rid of Obama at this point is to kick his skinny ass back to Chicago in November.

IMHO, the citizenship thing will serve to further discredit the 52% fools who elected this idiot in the first place.

Is Obama an American? Even if he was born here he isn’t, IMHO. He doesn’t act or feel like one. He wasn’t raised as an American.

wildcat72 on July 18, 2012 at 9:44 AM

Thing is, TFGRP wanted to strip Wisconsin of their ability to dispense medical marijuana until it was discovered that the glazed eyes, mopey faces, and incoherent mumblings of it’s citizens were natural and not brought on by choom smoking.

Bishop on July 18, 2012 at 9:46 AM

I suspect this is a preemptive move to soften any criticism Romney may offer regarding Barry’s bonging days.

Patrick S on July 18, 2012 at 9:46 AM

if Harborside’s proprietors would change out of these clothes, they might have more luck with their pitch to the mainstream.

What kind of hippie am I? Man, I’m a business hippie, I understand the concept of supply and demand.

JeremiahJohnson on July 18, 2012 at 9:46 AM

Its more likely the pot dispensaries became more flagrant then under Bush leading to a wider crackdown.

rob verdi on July 18, 2012 at 9:48 AM

The only and best way to get rid of Obama at this point is to kick his skinny ass back to Chicago in November.

Is Obama an American? Even if he was born here he isn’t, IMHO. He doesn’t act or feel like one. He wasn’t raised as an American.

wildcat72 on July 18, 2012 at 9:44 AM

Exactly right! Now all we need is a candidate that wants to do what it will take to be our next POTUS.

DannoJyd on July 18, 2012 at 9:49 AM

What people fail to understand is that a malevolent micromanaging socialist like Obama is INCAPABLE of keeping his hands off anything.

wildcat72 on July 18, 2012 at 9:36 AM

Correct. But also consider that at this stage of the administration, the President who constantly complains that his job is “too hard”, and wishes that the USA was run like the PRC (in between rounds of golf), may be simply doing things at random in the hope of getting some traction with somebody. Anybody.

Or, barring that, simply lashing out more-or-less incoherently at anyone and everyone he considers guilty of, not just opposing him, but of not supporting him strongly enough.

I’m wondering just how coherent Obama will be when the debates roll around in the fall. In fact, I’m wondering if he will even be coherent enough to participate in a debate, or indeed even recognize that that’s what’s going on around him.

I’ve never had a particularly high opinion of The One’s supposed superior intellect, or his mental stability. To me, this looks like prima facie evidence that neither one is as advertised, or ever has been.

clear ether

eon

eon on July 18, 2012 at 9:49 AM

ITguy on July 18, 2012 at 9:36 AM

They will not report on hear-say on such a deeply contentious issue. Besides, the most likely answer for the problems is that Obama’s dad was not there when the kid was born and did not ever intend to be there. It would not be an uncommon event in the black community. Sad but true.

ArkyDore on July 18, 2012 at 9:49 AM

1. Develop and use a test that measures level of THC intoxication, not the mere presence of marijuana. Stuff you shouldn’t do drunk, you shouldn’t do stoned.

2. Understand that even if you smoked notebook paper or organic dandelions, you are still filling your lungs with tar, and it puts you at risk for lung cancer. Don’t be all shocked and stuff when a link between marijuana and lung cancer is confirmed.

Otherwise, light up!

Sekhmet on July 18, 2012 at 9:57 AM

I’m wondering if he will even be coherent enough to participate in a debate,…..

I bet he gets a waiver.

DaveDief on July 18, 2012 at 9:58 AM

Come on, it’s obvious these recent efforts are nothing more than an attempt to counter the recent “Choom Gang” revelations. He will now rebut any comments in this regard with the assertion that “I have increased drug enforcement efforts dramatically from that of my predecessor”. Remember, communists eat their young and there is no ally that can’t be thrown under the bus for the cause.

tommyboy on July 18, 2012 at 9:59 AM

Although, on a stylistic note, if Harborside’s proprietors would change out of these clothes

Evidence of marijuana’s impact on the brain. Seriously, I have heard of 1/2 price off sale days at the the thrift store, but no idea they had a Halloween dept….

hillsoftx on July 18, 2012 at 10:05 AM

Wasn’t all that long ago the LSM were spazzing about President Reagan’s health and state of mind…”Oh my God! To think he could have pushed THE BUTTON!!!!!”

And of course there was the frothing over President Bush’s drug use and drinking…definitely not a fit man for the presidency and having access to THE BUTTON!

But with Clinton and Obama it’s cool and shows they’re hep and down with average folks.

Dr. ZhivBlago on July 18, 2012 at 10:07 AM

Mary Katharine, neat idea offering up free pot first thing in the a.m. You might be able to top 50 with this. Good technique against a Palin thread perhaps.

Bmore on July 18, 2012 at 10:11 AM

Wasn’t all that long ago the LSM were spazzing about President Reagan’s health and state of mind…”Oh my God! To think he could have pushed THE BUTTON!!!!!”

And of course there was the frothing over President Bush’s drug use and drinking…definitely not a fit man for the presidency and having access to THE BUTTON!

But with Clinton and Obama it’s cool and shows they’re hep and down with average folks.

Dr. ZhivBlago on July 18, 2012 at 10:07 AM

Valerie Jarret probably had to yank the nuclear football away from Obama by force the night 41% of West Virginia democrats voted for a felon inmate rather than him.

wildcat72 on July 18, 2012 at 10:12 AM

Yep, Obama smoked Pot. And inhaled.
George & Laura went through a cocaine phase. And snorted vigorously.
Can we move on now?
The problem with angling every policy discussion around some sensational tidbit from the personal lives or youthful indiscretions of political leaders, is that you end up not having a policy discussion.
Kinda like your high on something and incapable of a rational thought.

(And speaking of drugs…ITguy, what are you smokin’?)

verbaluce on July 18, 2012 at 10:14 AM

Many of California’s most prominent and well-respected medical cannabis dispensaries and related facilities — including Oaksterdam University, Berkeley Patients Group, and Harborside Health Center (HHC) — flourished under the George W. Bush administration. But they’ll be lucky to survive President Barack Obama’s first term.

I suspect that the only problem here is that these organizations haven’t contributed to President Jackass McChoomer’s 2012 campaign.

Can’t the federal government put together some kind of seminar for businesses to teach them how crony capitalism works?

slickwillie2001 on July 18, 2012 at 10:15 AM

Mary Katharine, neat idea offering up free pot first thing in the a.m. You might be able to top 50 with this. Good technique against a Palin thread perhaps.

Bmore on July 18, 2012 at 10:11 AM

The Palin teases are shameless hit-whoring on HA’s part. Yet nada on Sheriff Joe or the latest on Zimmerman.

slickwillie2001 on July 18, 2012 at 10:17 AM

The Palin teases are shameless hit-whoring on HA’s part. Yet nada on Sheriff Joe or the latest on Zimmerman.

slickwillie2001 on July 18, 2012 at 10:17 AM

I’ll go ahead and say what everyone else is thinking: Hot Air lost all it’s guts to report anything controversial or cutting edge when Michelle sold it to corporate media.

wildcat72 on July 18, 2012 at 10:19 AM

Although, on a stylistic note, if Harborside’s proprietors would change out of these clothes, they might have more luck with their pitch to the mainstream.

To be fair, MK, they are both wearing neckties.

That says something in CA.

JohnGalt23 on July 18, 2012 at 10:19 AM

No room for choom.

nice work, MKH

LOLz

ted c on July 18, 2012 at 10:20 AM

What looks like Occupy but acts like a Tea Party?

Ron Paul fans!

Good Lt on July 18, 2012 at 9:22 AM

You know it!!

(Hey, it’s better than looking like Tea Party but acting like Occupy… like some Democratic Administrations I could name.)

JohnGalt23 on July 18, 2012 at 10:22 AM

wildcat72 on July 18, 2012 at 10:19 AM

Imagine how great a Palin/Apario tkt would have been?
Yet we are denied by the corporate media.

verbaluce on July 18, 2012 at 10:23 AM

They will not report on hear-say on such a deeply contentious issue.

ArkyDore on July 18, 2012 at 9:49 AM

This is not hear-say. This is an official law enforcement investigation. And the investigation found that not only is the PDF on the White House web site “UNDOUBTEDLY A FRAUD” but also the laws in Hawaii allow illegal immigrants to get Hawaii Birth Certificates.

There are national security ramifications that go far beyond just Obama.

This is, as Joe Biden would say, a BFD.

ITguy on July 18, 2012 at 10:24 AM

Yes We Cannabis.

NoPain on July 18, 2012 at 10:26 AM

This is not hear-say. This is an official law enforcement investigation. And the investigation found that not only is the PDF on the White House web site “UNDOUBTEDLY A FRAUD” but also the laws in Hawaii allow illegal immigrants to get Hawaii Birth Certificates.

There are national security ramifications that go far beyond just Obama.

This is, as Joe Biden would say, a BFD.

ITguy on July 18, 2012 at 10:24 AM

Yep. Every single American passport issued on the basis of a Hawaiian Birth Certificate needs to be reviewed to determine if they are fraudulent. This is bigger than simply little Bammie’s qualifications for office.

slickwillie2001 on July 18, 2012 at 10:32 AM

It’s an ego thing. He is proving to himself that he can stick it to California and he will still get their electoral votes.

Odysseus on July 18, 2012 at 10:41 AM

Although, on a stylistic note, if Harborside’s proprietors would change out of these clothes, they might have more luck with their pitch to the mainstream.

Acck! What’s been seen cannot be unseen!!

lucyvanpelt on July 18, 2012 at 10:42 AM

Imagine how great a Palin/Apario tkt would have been?
Yet we are denied by the corporate media.

verbaluce on July 18, 2012 at 10:23 AM

Joe Arpaio for secretary of homeland security.

wildcat72 on July 18, 2012 at 10:52 AM

once again, Obowmao alienating a group of supporters as if he plans to Not Need an Election!

Where are all the true American’s?

screwauger on July 18, 2012 at 11:07 AM

Alternate Headline: President’s Administration takes actions on legalizing Marijuana…and gets that wrong, too.

BlaxPac on July 18, 2012 at 11:15 AM

Joe Arpaio for secretary of homeland security.

wildcat72 on July 18, 2012 at 10:52 AM

Sure.
And Charlie Sheen for Secretary of State.

verbaluce on July 18, 2012 at 11:16 AM

Don’t care to ingest the stuff, but it should be legal and free in unlimited quantities to whomever wants to use it. And the Feds should be out of the drug enforcement business. It’s a waste of resources in a war that will never be won.

Red Creek on July 18, 2012 at 11:17 AM

Some of you have made the hilarious link to asset forfeiture of the goods but the real goal is the money. While small in comparison to the FEDs overspending it is more money in the pockets of the agency that gets it.

chemman on July 18, 2012 at 11:22 AM

Not sure a guy named “Dave Weddingdress” would play well up here in the High Desert tho pot legalization gets a lot of support.

And not really sure why Obama is riding this horse so hard when DOJ in its zeal to keep immigration enforcement purely federal ignores the “sanctuary city” right across the bay.

And finally:

Dude, I’m sorry but the birth certificate issue is a non-starter because if it did become an issue 0bama could easily get a fool proof forged document sent out and that issue would backfore on those pushing it.

That would be excellent, because if he produced a new birth certificate he would be admitting that the one produced in 2011 was phony. Breitbart pegged the issue as one of Obama’s credibility, and this scenario would play right into that.

UnrepentantCurmudgeon on July 18, 2012 at 11:24 AM

Cool kids George W. Bush and Pat Robertson vs. statist stick-in-the-mud, Obama? Maybe that explains some of the 18-29 polling.

Yep. Anecdotal, but I’ve got a ton of “I’ll vote for Ron Paul or nobody else” 20ish friends because of this.

budfox on July 18, 2012 at 11:44 AM

Yep. Anecdotal, but I’ve got a ton of “I’ll vote for Ron Paul or nobody else” 20ish friends because of this.

budfox on July 18, 2012 at 11:44 AM

Early surveys showed that a majority of RP supporters planned to vote for little Bammie if RP lost the primary. That may have changed with the entry of Goofy Johnson, but it won’t help us.

slickwillie2001 on July 18, 2012 at 12:00 PM

verbaluce on July 18, 2012 at 10:14 AM

But you really, really wanted to discuss youthful indiscretions and prior drug use when George W.Bush was president.
Why the sudden reticence at this time?

Solaratov on July 18, 2012 at 12:01 PM

Report dated 5 July 12 from Gen (Ret) Barry McCaffrey, former head of ONDCP.

“We now face increasing calls in the Latin-American community and in the US domestic political and media process for legalization of drugs as the solution to this criminal challenge to the rule of law. Legalization would be a disaster for the international community.”

“The problem with these illegal drugs is not their criminal restriction–it is their ferociously addictive nature–in particular for adolescents. Chronic abuse of illegal drugs causes the physical, social, medical, legal and spiritual meltdown of the addicted. Illegal drug abuse is destructive of the workplace and the family. These illegal drugs are also a terrible scourge on communities.”

“The lack of legal constraints and social stigma on the production and distribution of Schedule One drugs will inevitably result in increasing use and addiction. Without question law enforcement should not focus on the arrest or prosecution of the addicted. However, it is equally senseless to imagine that the widespread availability of these powerful addictive substances will not cause a gradual increasing disaster among the exposed populations.”

SoonerMarine on July 18, 2012 at 12:07 PM

To be fair, MK, they are both wearing neckties.

That says something in CA.

JohnGalt23 on July 18, 2012 at 10:19 AM

True dat.
They are, after all, entrepreneurs who started and run a multi-million dollar private enterprise. A professional appearance must count for something.

Of course, they didn’t build that business. Someone helped them build it. (I wonder if they got a guaranteed government loan? It is a ‘green’ business.)

Solaratov on July 18, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Imagine how great a Palin/Apario tkt would have been?
Yet we are denied by the corporate media.

verbaluce on July 18, 2012 at 10:23 AM

Joe Arpaio for secretary of homeland security.

wildcat72 on July 18, 2012 at 10:52 AM

The right man in the right job.

Solaratov on July 18, 2012 at 12:12 PM

I live in Southern California.

I can tell you without hesitation that dispensery owners and workers, growers, advocates and pot activists absolutely HATE Obumbles.

It’s positively hilarious.

Tim_CA on July 18, 2012 at 12:19 PM

Weed for me, none for thee.

Red Cloud on July 18, 2012 at 12:20 PM

And when medical marijuana is covered by Romney…, er, ObamaCare, that will give Barry, El Presidente Ø, a reason to walk it back.
What a maroon. So are the idiots in Oakland, Santa Monica, Venice Beach etc. who think they are untouchable. Sticking your tongue out at jack-booted thugs isn’t ordinarily a good idea.
If and when THC becomes legal (the sooner the better), the whore doctors who are prescribing it in CA might actually have to work for a change.
~(Ä)~

Karl Magnus on July 18, 2012 at 12:21 PM

Looking at that picture always brings up the same question, “How’d a mope like this ever become president?”

It surely wasn’t on the basis of merit.

Cleombrotus on July 18, 2012 at 12:25 PM

Sticking your tongue out at jack-booted thugs isn’t ordinarily a good idea.

Karl Magnus on July 18, 2012 at 12:21 PM

Well, this is a special case, though, isn’t it? In theory, all of these actors have some measure of protection from our State apparatus in Sacto.

In theory, of course.

JohnGalt23 on July 18, 2012 at 12:28 PM

Well, this is a special case, though, isn’t it? In theory, all of these actors have some measure of protection from our State apparatus in Sacto.

In theory, of course.

JohnGalt23 on July 18, 2012 at 12:28 PM

And how has that been working out for ya?
~(Ä)~

Karl Magnus on July 18, 2012 at 12:32 PM

People who still think the birth certificate issue is worth pursuing smoke way too much weed.

MadisonConservative on July 18, 2012 at 12:34 PM

It is hard to understand this move from a political standpoint, and political expediency drives ALL Obama Administration decisions. All Obama has to do is lay off and lay low, and he will have the support of a lot of people he wouldn’t have otherwise. So, why? Is it because he knows he will win Cali anyway? Does he think the “medical” marijuana people in other states won’t care? Or is it that he thinks in other medical marijuana states hteir numbers are too small to matter, or matter less than the demos he alienates over it? Is this particular op just too big? Or does Eric Holder hate white guys with braids or wearing dresses?

Hard to figure, and usually the political agenda being served is the only thing transparent about this administration.

ITguy on July 18, 2012 at 9:36 AM
wildcat72 on July 18, 2012 at 9:44 AM

Have you guys considered the possibility that it isn’t his citizenship but the identity of his biological father that is being concealed?

novaculus on July 18, 2012 at 12:45 PM

People who still think the birth certificate issue is worth pursuing smoke way too much weed.

MadisonConservative on July 18, 2012 at 12:34 PM

Worth pursuing – no….nobody seems to care.

Do I want to know what li’l barry is hiding – absolutely……the MSM, Liberal yahoos, and RINO repubs will never quash my curiosity.

Oh and btw….pass that spliff….that doesn’t scare me either.

Tim_CA on July 18, 2012 at 12:48 PM

Acck! What’s been seen cannot be unseen!!

lucyvanpelt on July 18, 2012 at 10:42 AM

Could have been worse, Lucy. He could have been wearing a mini skirt.

novaculus on July 18, 2012 at 12:50 PM

But you really, really wanted to discuss youthful indiscretions and prior drug use when George W.Bush was president.

Solaratov on July 18, 2012 at 12:01 PM

Nope.

verbaluce on July 18, 2012 at 12:56 PM

I can tell you without hesitation that dispensery owners and workers, growers, advocates and pot activists absolutely HATE Obumbles.

It’s positively hilarious.

Tim_CA on July 18, 2012 at 12:19 PM

That’s funny. Not being from California, and being somewhat old and out of touch, I would have assumed just the opposite — at least, until his recent ‘crackdown’ on medical mj.
Is there a source for that, or is it more along the line of personal observation?

Solaratov on July 18, 2012 at 12:56 PM

That’s funny. Not being from California, and being somewhat old and out of touch, I would have assumed just the opposite — at least, until his recent ‘crackdown’ on medical mj.
Is there a source for that, or is it more along the line of personal observation?

Solaratov on July 18, 2012 at 12:56 PM

lol…they’re actually organizing against the goofball now:

http://www.theweedblog.com/marijuana-activists-need-to-protest-president-obamas-fundraiser-july-23rd-in-oakland/

http://www.growmedical420.com/13137/marijuana-activists-need-to-protest-president-obamas-fundraiser-july-23rd-in-oakland/

There was an article in the L.A. times too….will post when located…I live in a beach town where the product is fairly popular…pot smokers here hate the guy.

Tim_CA on July 18, 2012 at 1:04 PM

That’s funny. Not being from California, and being somewhat old and out of touch, I would have assumed just the opposite — at least, until his recent ‘crackdown’ on medical mj.
Is there a source for that, or is it more along the line of personal observation?

Solaratov on July 18, 2012 at 12:56 PM

I can back this up, both from opinions I’ve gathered on pro-weed websites such as NORML, and from those in the business. No, there’s no citations for the latter.

MadisonConservative on July 18, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Tim_CA on July 18, 2012 at 1:04 PM

I will, in fact, be at the protest in Oakland. I wonder if they’ll wheel in the dump trucks…

JohnGalt23 on July 18, 2012 at 1:06 PM

I can back this up, both from opinions I’ve gathered on pro-weed websites such as NORML, and from those in the business. No, there’s no citations for the latter.

MadisonConservative on July 18, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Honestly, Mad, if i had to call it a F&F style operation. I think it was supposed to be this crisis (Legal MJ).

The White House will then mull it over and Obama “Changes his mind” on the Legalization issue and either E.O. Legalization or tries to “push” Congress into doing something….

Either way, it reels him in a few more % points in assured voter block for him to count on in Nov.

Sure, it sounds stupid, but doesn’t mean they wouldn’t try it regardless…lol

BlaxPac on July 18, 2012 at 1:24 PM

Choom for Barry but not for thee.

You didn’t get those harvested pot plants to the dispensary without using roads the government built!”

profitsbeard on July 18, 2012 at 1:29 PM

Sure, it sounds stupid, but doesn’t mean they wouldn’t try it regardless…lol

BlaxPac on July 18, 2012 at 1:24 PM

lol…wouldn’t put it past this admin…they’ll become increasingly desperate as autumn nears.

Tim_CA on July 18, 2012 at 1:32 PM

Yes We Cannabis.

NoPain on July 18, 2012 at 10:26 AM

LOL!

Obama’s new campaign slogan this Fall…after the requisite “evolution”.

profitsbeard on July 18, 2012 at 1:34 PM

I will, in fact, be at the protest in Oakland. I wonder if they’ll wheel in the dump trucks…

JohnGalt23 on July 18, 2012 at 1:06 PM

Good luck….can’t wait to hear how it goes.

Don’t let the OWS’ers steel the spotlight……they seem to show up every-friggin’-where there’s a news camera.

Tim_CA on July 18, 2012 at 1:36 PM

lol…wouldn’t put it past this admin…they’ll become increasingly desperate as autumn nears.

Tim_CA on July 18, 2012 at 1:32 PM

I know…and desperate, stupid people that happen to be politicians screw up everything for the whole party.

BlaxPac on July 18, 2012 at 2:11 PM

The CHOOMster

profitsbeard on July 18, 2012 at 3:02 PM