CBS/NYT poll shows voter enthusiasm among GOP sharply rising

posted at 10:41 am on July 18, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

After spending tens of millions of dollars trying to demonize Mitt Romney over the last two months, Barack Obama and his campaign had hoped to erode any enthusiasm for the Republican nominee.  According to the new CBS/NYT poll, not only have they failed, the effort may be backfiring:

Meantime, three and a half months before election day, Republican enthusiasm about voting this year has shot up since Mitt Romney clinched the nomination in April, from 36 percent of Republicans saying they were more enthusiastic in March to 49 percent now.

President Obama was helped to election in 2008 by a wave of voter enthusiasm among Democrats, however this year, Democratic enthusiasm is down a bit since March. Twenty-seven percent of Democrats said they were more enthusiastic about voting this year than they were in past elections, compared to 30 percent four months ago. And 48 percent of Democrats say their enthusiasm this year is the same as past elections, compared to 39 percent who answered the same question in March.

Independent voters’ enthusiasm is also up with 29 percent saying they’re more enthusiastic now from 22 percent four months ago.

Overall, voters aren’t as enthusiastic about this year’s election as they were in 2008. Just 33 percent of all registered voters said they were more enthusiastic this year than they were for past elections, compared to 41 percent in March 2008.

The CBS/NYT poll isn’t exactly known for its sample quality, so it will be interesting to see how that overall enthusiasm number relates to the D/R/I split.  If Republican enthusiasm increased by thirteen points and independents by seven points, the overall drop of only eight points seems a little low.

The big takeaway, though, is that 49% of Republicans and 29% of independents express increased enthusiasm for this election, while only 27% of Democrats say the same thing.  If Obama’s attacks are depressing enthusiasm, it’s pretty clear whose enthusiasm he’s depressing.  That was always the risk for a candidate whose main qualification for office was hope and change, and whose signature outcome has been economic stagnation.


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I have and I am. Next question?

Chuck Schick on July 18, 2012 at 11:30 AM

Impossible! You spend your posts guessing where someone actually involved would KNOW.

DannoJyd on July 18, 2012 at 11:36 AM

So, uh, when does that happen, Bradky? I thought Mr Electable Inevitable would be up by at least 5 or 6 by now.

ddrintn on July 18, 2012 at 11:30 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpn0aQ1fyzs

davidk on July 18, 2012 at 11:36 AM

Just as it was in the primaries, Romney slowly gaining momentum and winning the election in November will be the bane of the HA trolls existence.

Slainte on July 18, 2012 at 11:36 AM

Impossible! You spend your posts guessing where someone actually involved would KNOW.

DannoJyd on July 18, 2012 at 11:36 AM

What are you babbling about now?

Chuck Schick on July 18, 2012 at 11:39 AM

Well, Obama does himself no favors when he argues that earned success doesn’t exist and that anything that you have is a result of something that he or government gave you. Even people that want handouts think that it is “owed” to them, not that they are simply leeches.

besser tot als rot on July 18, 2012 at 11:43 AM

Do you have a link to that?

Chuck Schick on July 18, 2012 at 11:35 AM

No, I have MANY links to that:

President Obama vs. Republican Candidate

Poll Puts Generic Republican Ahead of President: How Vulnerable Is Obama?

Gallup Poll: G eneric Republican Candidate polling ahead of Obama in swing states on Jobs and Deficits issues

Oh my: Generic Republican 47, Obama 39

Thanks for the last one, Allahpundit.

DannoJyd on July 18, 2012 at 11:44 AM

Pretty much every polling firm showed that the generic republican would be way ahead of 0bama because of the ABO movement.

Now when you say every polling firm, are you stating those done by media outlets, done by the DNC/RNC, or a mix?

Can you please post link?

Remember ABO? What ever happened to that?

DannoJyd on July 18, 2012 at 11:34 AM

Hasn’t changed, pretty much every commentator wants Obama out, including *you*.

You got your Huggies in a twist because Romney is candidate and not some 3rd Party Walking Dead character actor named Gary Johnson is being carried upon our shoulders to his rightful place as titular head of All He Surveys…

BlaxPac on July 18, 2012 at 11:44 AM

What are you babbling about now?

Chuck Schick on July 18, 2012 at 11:39 AM

Your obvious disconnect with the grass roots movements.

DannoJyd on July 18, 2012 at 11:45 AM

Suppose the bridge ain’t there?

Don’t hit me with negative waves
so early in the morning.

Think that bridge will be there
and it will be there.

It’s a mother, beautiful bridge
and it’s gonna be there.

Okay?

Okay, Chief.

Okay.

Dr. ZhivBlago on July 18, 2012 at 11:45 AM

Thank you, John Roberts.

I really want to see two cross-tabs on this poll, one they should have, one the should have, but probably won’t:

1: I’d like to see what the supports levels are among the “excited to vote” v. the population as a whole. IOW: What’s the Romney / Obama / Undecided numbers among those “Independents” who are excited to vote?

2: I’d love to see support / opposition to ObamaCareTax v. Excited / non-excited.

! they’d better well have. 2 I’m guessing they didn’t ask, because they didn’t want to see the numbers.

Greg Q on July 18, 2012 at 11:45 AM

At last: Romney camp says it won’t treat Obama as “nice guy” anymore
http://michellemalkin.com/2012/07/18/at-last-romney-camp-says-it-wont-treat-obama-as-nice-guy-anymore/comment-page-1/#comment-1348770

Andrea Bocelli – Hallelujah-Handel Messiah [Sacred Arias] – In HD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5AScLyy3IM&feature=player_embedded

Chip on July 18, 2012 at 11:45 AM

If Obama’s attacks are depressing enthusiasm, it’s pretty clear whose enthusiasm he’s depressing.

Everything about this election year is depressing. Maybe Romney will pick a non-depressing VP candidate. But I doubt it.

besser tot als rot on July 18, 2012 at 11:47 AM

Your obvious disconnect with the grass roots movements.

DannoJyd on July 18, 2012 at 11:45 AM

I still don’t know what you’re talking about. Can you explain?

Now if you recall, you said this:

Pretty much every polling firm showed that the generic republican would be way ahead of 0bama because of the ABO movement.

Remember ABO? What ever happened to that?

DannoJyd on July 18, 2012 at 11:34 AM

\

Still waiting for a link.

Chuck Schick on July 18, 2012 at 11:48 AM

Everything about this election year is depressing. Maybe Romney will pick a non-depressing VP candidate. But I doubt it.

besser tot als rot on July 18, 2012 at 11:47 AM

Screw that. The country needs competence, not flash.

I rather have two bookish types that’s willing to do the hard work more than another 4 years of a political Reality show.

BlaxPac on July 18, 2012 at 11:52 AM

Right, and Romney’s still trailing.

ddrintn on July 18, 2012 at 11:09 AM

OMG!

PANIC!

The election is in November, and it’s a statistical tie.

Good Lt on July 18, 2012 at 11:52 AM

Still waiting for a link.

Chuck Schick on July 18, 2012 at 11:48 AM

What? Are you blind too? It is right here.

I guess you are a recent Hot Air reader since the last link takes you right back to Hot Air.

DannoJyd on July 18, 2012 at 11:52 AM

So, uh, when does that happen, Bradky? I thought Mr Electable Inevitable would be up by at least 5 or 6 by now.

ddrintn on July 18, 2012 at 11:30 AM

Well, that means then that he SHOULD be, just because that was ddrintn’s expectation.

Good Lt on July 18, 2012 at 11:54 AM

But according to an out-lying upper eastern border Minnesota Poll with a plus 37 percent progressive leaning sampling conducted by Euro-Orthodox Progressive Druid Monks who have no reproductive organs, Mitt Romney doesn’t have a chance and the entire Conservative Movement hinges on throwing the 2012 election away by voting for Gary Johnson.

FloatingRock/SteveAngell/GumbyandPokey/

hawkdriver on July 18, 2012 at 11:55 AM

Everything about this election year is depressing. Maybe Romney will pick a non-depressing VP candidate. But I doubt it.

besser tot als rot on July 18, 2012 at 11:47 AM

Well, atleast we have you to brighten our day sunshine. geeezzz.

VegasRick on July 18, 2012 at 11:56 AM

Hasn’t changed, pretty much every commentator wants Obama out, including *you*.

BlaxPac on July 18, 2012 at 11:44 AM

Look at the earlier posts on this page [2] if you want the links I supplied, and todays pols show NONE OF THE OLD ABO ENTHUSIASM since Romney was selected by the GOP elitists.

You are right. I want 0bama out, but unlike a lot of republican voters I know we have more options than the GOP liberal, thus my enthusiasm remains high today.

DannoJyd on July 18, 2012 at 11:56 AM

Heh, a photo worth sharing amongst your social media network..

hillsoftx on July 18, 2012 at 11:07 AM

He’s a living example of his own rhetoric. But I digress. The nobel committee lost all its cred when they doled out their gold to this guy… for doing who knows what. But then again they gave it Carter. But he actually did a little something, though I’m not sure exactly what it was.

Red Creek on July 18, 2012 at 11:56 AM

You got your Huggies in a twist because Romney is candidate and not some 3rd Party Walking Dead character actor named Gary Johnson is being carried upon our shoulders to his rightful place as titular head of All He Surveys…

BlaxPac on July 18, 2012 at 11:44 AM

Exactly. I’d like to know what good the anti-Mitt’s think they’re doing for voter enthusiasm by constantly bashing the only chance we have of ousting O. Some third party whirlwind will only happen in a parallel universe. Alternatively, they simply want O to win reelection.

Slainte on July 18, 2012 at 11:57 AM

I usually vote early for the convince factor. This time I’ll vote on the first available day just in case an asteroid falls on my head before election day. Is that the kind of enthusiasm they’re talking about?

tj4osu on July 18, 2012 at 12:00 PM

Screw that. The country needs competence, not flash.

I rather have two bookish types that’s willing to do the hard work more than another 4 years of a political Reality show.

BlaxPac on July 18, 2012 at 11:52 AM

I don’t want someone to more competently implement big government statism. I’m not talking about depressing from a “flash” standpoint, but from a policy standpoint. For example, someone without flash, but with a decent-to-good policy record would be wonderful (think Mitch Daniels).

besser tot als rot on July 18, 2012 at 12:01 PM

At last: Romney camp says it won’t treat Obama as “nice guy” anymore
http://michellemalkin.com/2012/07/18/at-last-romney-camp-says-it-wont-treat-obama-as-nice-guy-anymore/comment-page-1/#comment-1348770

Andrea Bocelli – Hallelujah-Handel Messiah [Sacred Arias] – In HD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5AScLyy3IM&feature=player_embedded

Chip on July 18, 2012 at 11:45 AM

Thanks for the heads-up! That “nice guy” stuff was really sticking in my craw. Sort of like McCain’s “Obama would be a good president” riff during the 2008 campaign.

Scriptor on July 18, 2012 at 12:02 PM

but unlike a lot of republican voters I know we have more options than the GOP liberal, thus my enthusiasm remains high today.

Do you mean “Down Ticket” or for POTUS? ‘Cuz I’d sure like to know who, besides Romney is an option, either realistically or for the GOP?

JFKY on July 18, 2012 at 12:03 PM

You got your Huggies in a twist because Romney is candidate and not some 3rd Party Walking Dead character actor named Gary Johnson is being carried upon our shoulders to his rightful place as titular head of All He Surveys…

BlaxPac on July 18, 2012 at 11:44 AM

Exactly. I’d like to know what good the anti-Mitt’s think they’re doing for voter enthusiasm by constantly bashing the only chance we have of ousting O. Some third party whirlwind will only happen in a parallel universe. Alternatively, they simply want O to win reelection.

Slainte on July 18, 2012 at 11:57 AM

It may make strategic sense to support Romney over Johnson, but I don’t think that there is much doubt that Johnson was a significantly better governor than Romney was.

besser tot als rot on July 18, 2012 at 12:03 PM

For example, someone without flash, but with a decent-to-good policy record would be wonderful (think Mitch Daniels).

Yeah too bad he didn’t run, huh? I think Jack Ryan would be a GREAT POTUS, too bad he’s a fictional character…got any other non-starter options?

JFKY on July 18, 2012 at 12:04 PM

Yeah too bad he didn’t run, huh? I think Jack Ryan would be a GREAT POTUS, too bad he’s a fictional character…got any other non-starter options?

JFKY on July 18, 2012 at 12:04 PM

Not really. Which is why I said that this election is depressing.

besser tot als rot on July 18, 2012 at 12:06 PM

I thought Ron Paul was going 3rd, or 4th party….whichever the case may be ;)

sunshinek67 on July 18, 2012 at 12:07 PM

but I don’t think that there is much doubt that Johnson was a significantly better governor than Romney was.

EXCEPT, Romney might have gotten elected in NM, but Johnson would NEVER make it in MA….Now you can fault, I guess, Romney for running for office in a Deep Blue State, as a Republican, but we’re you’re “planted” affects how you bloom. And a Johnson flower in MA, would come a cropper.

JFKY on July 18, 2012 at 12:08 PM

Not really. Which is why I said that this election is depressing.

besser tot als rot on July 18, 2012 at 12:06 PM

Rumor has it that Chris Christie will be giving the keynote at the RNC convention. Brighten up a little.

VegasRick on July 18, 2012 at 12:09 PM

It may make strategic sense to support Romney over Johnson, but I don’t think that there is much doubt that Johnson was a significantly better governor than Romney was.

besser tot als rot on July 18, 2012 at 12:03 PM

As JFKY noted, the comparison holds little value when you contrast the difference between the two states. Romney would certainly have governed differently in NM and Johnson wouldn’t have had a chance in Hades of winning a gubernatorial race in MA.

Slainte on July 18, 2012 at 12:17 PM

Rumor has it that Chris Christie will be giving the keynote at the RNC convention. Brighten up a little.

You’re say’n there will be a Chinese Buffet at the RNC Convention.

JFKY on July 18, 2012 at 12:18 PM

I’ll be enthused to see SCOAMF boarding a plane with a one-way ticket to Chicago on January 20th, 2013.

Bitter Clinger on July 18, 2012 at 10:45 AM

..of course, it will not be AF ONE. It might be one of the several available to transport the POTUS, but the call sign should be POS ONE I am thinking.

If they were to allocate an aircraft to transport this jerk, maybe they could use the DC-3 that the Cleveland Indians used in the movie Major League. You know, the one that the pilot was duct-taping the prop of.

Appropriate.

The War Planner on July 18, 2012 at 12:21 PM

EXCEPT, Romney might have gotten elected in NM, but Johnson would NEVER make it in MA….Now you can fault, I guess, Romney for running for office in a Deep Blue State, as a Republican, but we’re you’re “planted” affects how you bloom. And a Johnson flower in MA, would come a cropper.

JFKY on July 18, 2012 at 12:08 PM

I don’t know that that is true. I don’t have a crystal ball. What I do know is that (1) Johnson did a pretty decent job in a blue state; and (2) Romney claims that his MA record was “severely conservative,” which is most definitely is not; he doesn’t argue that it was the best he could do in a (deep) blue state. So, forgive me if I don’t find that excuse very convincing.

besser tot als rot on July 18, 2012 at 12:22 PM

What? Are you blind too? It is right here.

I guess you are a recent Hot Air reader since the last link takes you right back to Hot Air.

DannoJyd on July 18, 2012 at 11:52 AM

Sorry, I completely missed your post.

You cited 3 individual polls from 2011, 2 of them over a year old. The RCP average was from May and had the GOP candidate +.5 – which is within the margin of error, where Romney sits now.

As Del says:

F-

Chuck Schick on July 18, 2012 at 12:23 PM

You’re say’n there will be a Chinese Buffet at the RNC Convention.

JFKY on July 18, 2012 at 12:18 PM

..not after Christie gets done.

The War Planner on July 18, 2012 at 12:23 PM

Romney would certainly have governed differently in NM and Johnson wouldn’t have had a chance in Hades of winning a gubernatorial race in MA.

Slainte on July 18, 2012 at 12:17 PM

How do you know either of those things? Romney says that what he did in MA was “severely conservative.” What makes you think that he would have governed more conservatively in NM? There is no evidence for that. And you do know that NM is a blue state as well, right? Johnson actually ran for and got elected to a second term.

besser tot als rot on July 18, 2012 at 12:26 PM

The RCP average was from May and had the GOP candidate +.5 – which is within the margin of error, where Romney sits now.

As Del says:

F-

Chuck Schick on July 18, 2012 at 12:23 PM

Romney is 5 points above 0bama? Share the link! LOL!

DannoJyd on July 18, 2012 at 12:28 PM

besser tot als rot on July 18, 2012 at 12:22 PM

You’ve stated it makes strategic sense to support Romney, but yet you’re still depressed and lamenting. Why not look at the bright possibility that O will be sent packing? Why not focus your energies more productively toward helping Romney defeat O?

Slainte on July 18, 2012 at 12:28 PM

Why not look at the bright possibility that O will be sent packing? Why not focus your energies more productively toward helping Romney defeat O?

Because you might be thought of as a “Mittbot” and to the “l”ibertarians that is tantamount to “UnKewl.”

JFKY on July 18, 2012 at 12:30 PM

Romney is 5 points above 0bama? Share the link! LOL!

Rea more closely, Padawan..
+0.5, not +5.0

JFKY on July 18, 2012 at 12:31 PM

The villain in The Dark Knight Rises is named Bane. What is the name of the venture capital firm that Romney ran and around which there’s now this make-believe controversy? Bain. The movie has been in the works for a long time. The release date’s been known, summer 2012 for a long time. Do you think that it is accidental that the name of the really vicious fire breathing four eyed whatever it is villain in this movie is named Bain?
You may think it’s ridiculous, I’m just telling you this is the kind of stuff the Obama team is lining up.

greataunty on July 18, 2012 at 11:22 AM

And the character has existed in the comic books long before Mitt was twinkle in the political worlds eye. There are enough real problems without trying to ride this conspiracy….

ChrisL on July 18, 2012 at 12:31 PM

And you do know that NM is a blue state as well, right? Johnson actually ran for and got elected to a second term.

besser tot als rot on July 18, 2012 at 12:26 PM

There are various shades of blue. MA is the very deepest blue hue.

So, as I asked previously, why don’t you focus on defeating O rather than beating the Romney sucks drum?

Slainte on July 18, 2012 at 12:32 PM

The election is in November, and it’s a statistical tie.

Good Lt on July 18, 2012 at 11:52 AM

Well, it’s a statistical tie in rigged polls. Not so good for our fearless leader.

eyedoc on July 18, 2012 at 12:32 PM

Still waiting for a link.

Chuck Schick on July 18, 2012 at 11:48 AM

What? Are you blind too? It is right here.

I guess you are a recent Hot Air reader since the last link takes you right back to Hot Air.

DannoJyd on July 18, 2012 at 11:52 AM

Just so y’know…lots of folks read Hot Gas for a while and have to wait for the occasional open registration to sign up to comment & many Hot Gas readers rarely comment

workingclass artist on July 18, 2012 at 12:34 PM

Romney is 5 points above 0bama? Share the link! LOL!

DannoJyd on July 18, 2012 at 12:28 PM

That is from YOUR LINK, sport. And that’s 0.5 as in 1/2, not 5.

Back to the shanty with you.

Chuck Schick on July 18, 2012 at 12:35 PM

As Del says:

F-

Chuck Schick on July 18, 2012 at 12:23 PM

Well played.

For all the RDS’ers here, please read this thoughtful post from another forum, which puts it much better than I can.

Let’s be clear.

If you are not supporting Romney for President – no matter your agreement or disagreement with any of his stands – you are supporting Barack Obama for re-election.

To be undecided is to be decided. It’s now at that point. If you have the ability to vote for Romney and you choose to not do so – you are supporting the reelection of Barack Obama.

If you are a citizen of this nation and you want the right to complain about it and are concerned about it remaining the beacon of liberty and freedom, then get off your ass and support Mitt Romney. The choice is the clearest in my 40 years of voting in Presidential elections. The current occupant is the hands down worst, most incompetent executive and I can match any concern and beat any other list. At least Carter’s damage was limited. The Obama/Holder disregard for the Constitutional Separation of Powers must come to an end.

Del Dolemonte on July 18, 2012 at 12:38 PM

Because you might be thought of as a “Mittbot” and to the “l”ibertarians that is tantamount to “UnKewl.”

JFKY on July 18, 2012 at 12:30 PM

Then unkewl I am. Mea culpa to the anti-mitts, but it makes no sense that they keep beating an extremely dead horse. I’ll happily be perceived as a Mittbot, real or imagined, if it means defeating O.

Slainte on July 18, 2012 at 12:40 PM

The villain in The Dark Knight Rises is named Bane. What is the name of the venture capital firm that Romney ran and around which there’s now this make-believe controversy? Bain. The movie has been in the works for a long time. The release date’s been known, summer 2012 for a long time. Do you think that it is accidental that the name of the really vicious fire breathing four eyed whatever it is villain in this movie is named Bain?
You may think it’s ridiculous, I’m just telling you this is the kind of stuff the Obama team is lining up.

greataunty on July 18, 2012 at 11:22 AM

And the character has existed in the comic books long before Mitt was twinkle in the political worlds eye. There are enough real problems without trying to ride this conspiracy….

ChrisL on July 18, 2012 at 12:31 PM

True, but you also know that if the villain just happened to be called ‘Barack’ that the Hollywood set would change it pdq. Wouldn’t want to be accused of being political!

slickwillie2001 on July 18, 2012 at 12:45 PM

More polls……..

varied results, mean nothing.

Gates of Hell re-elect campaign hasn’t even gotten started. If they think they aren’t gaining traction they will shift to “we’re being outspent, and we’re the underground” meme and then the media will pick it up and say Obama is the underdog, he’ll get louder, louder, and more shrill.

HE MUST FIRE UP HIS BASE.

PappyD61 on July 18, 2012 at 12:46 PM

mittens STILL sux!

America needs conservatives in charge for a change!

JINDAL/WEST 2012

Pragmatic on July 18, 2012 at 12:50 PM

JFKY on July 18, 2012 at 12:08 PM
I don’t know that that is true. I don’t have a crystal ball. What I do know is that (1) Johnson did a pretty decent job in a blue state; and (2) Romney claims that his MA record was “severely conservative,” which is most definitely is not; he doesn’t argue that it was the best he could do in a (deep) blue state. So, forgive me if I don’t find that excuse very convincing.

besser tot als rot on July 18, 2012 at 12:22 PM

You know that Gary Johnson is a drug addict, right?

jaygatz33 on July 18, 2012 at 12:54 PM

Just so y’know…lots of folks read Hot Gas for a while and have to wait for the occasional open registration to sign up to comment & many Hot Gas readers rarely comment

workingclass artist on July 18, 2012 at 12:34 PM

As I’ve been a reader and commenter here since 2007, doubly so since they added in the headlines section, I have to ask. How do YOU know about how many are signed up yet never comment?

This should be good.

DannoJyd on July 18, 2012 at 12:57 PM

You know that Gary Johnson is a drug addict, right?

jaygatz33 on July 18, 2012 at 12:54 PM

Proof?

DannoJyd on July 18, 2012 at 12:58 PM

Del Dolemonte on July 18, 2012 at 12:38 PM

That is quite a straw man argument you post there, doubly so since so many Rom Me supporters sat out the election in 2008, thus giving us 4 years of 0bama.

DannoJyd on July 18, 2012 at 1:01 PM

Back to the shanty with you.

Chuck Schick on July 18, 2012 at 12:35 PM

So sowwy, Spot, but that link was for a generic republican candidate, NOT Sketchy!

President Obama vs. Republican Candidate

DannoJyd on July 18, 2012 at 1:05 PM

How do you know either of those things? Romney says that what he did in MA was “severely conservative.” What makes you think that he would have governed more conservatively in NM? There is no evidence for that. And you do know that NM is a blue state as well, right? Johnson actually ran for and got elected to a second term.

besser tot als rot on July 18, 2012 at 12:26 PM

AHH! It does my heart good to see someone else posting facts instead of Sketshy’s lie filled liberal propaganda. Do keep up the good work as you distinguish us from the liberals quite well!

DannoJyd on July 18, 2012 at 1:07 PM

So sowwy, Spot, but that link was for a generic republican candidate, NOT Sketchy!

President Obama vs. Republican Candidate

DannoJyd on July 18, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Yes, you freaking moron. YOU posted it.

Chuck Schick on July 18, 2012 at 1:08 PM

Exactly. I’d like to know what good the anti-Mitt’s think they’re doing for voter enthusiasm by constantly bashing the only chance we have of ousting O. Some third party whirlwind will only happen in a parallel universe. Alternatively, they simply want O to win reelection.

Slainte on July 18, 2012 at 11:57 AM

As far as it goes, i think any more bashing of Romney after the nomination is pretty much going to be Pyrrhic at best.

I do not discount the anger the base has at the GOP for the last few cycles (hence the TEA Party), but Mitt is better than Obama and he’s the best chance to right now.

To those that champion 3rd Party/Libertarian: The majority *YOU* need to make that happen, means it’s on *YOU* to give us a candidate we will vote for.

It may make strategic sense to support Romney over Johnson, but I don’t think that there is much doubt that Johnson was a significantly better governor than Romney was.

besser tot als rot on July 18, 2012 at 12:03 PM

That may be true, but unfortunately, you have to factor in other issues, and something as Hollywood as name recognition is a factor.

Romney has it, Johnson doesn’t…outside a fringe issue like Legalization.

Look, I’d gladly vote 3rd party, but no one is stepping forward on issues i care about and is willing to do whats necessary AND still be appealing.

Ron Paul wasn’t it. Neither is Johnson.

Either offer a candidate that meets my needs or i shop elsewhere. If Romney is my best for the time, so be it.

BlaxPac on July 18, 2012 at 1:11 PM

Obama disturbed it and now the Anybody But Obama Force is growing strong.

farsighted on July 18, 2012 at 1:11 PM

That is quite a straw man argument you post there, doubly so since so many Rom Me supporters sat out the election in 2008, thus giving us 4 years of 0bama.

DannoJyd on July 18, 2012 at 1:01 PM

Um, no.

I voted in 2008, For the GOP ticket, against Obama.

Why? Because they were our best chance, in spite of half the ticket being a hindrance.

And since there was no tolerable viable electable 3rd Party candidate at the time, I took my chance on a long shot against a sure loser bet.

BlaxPac on July 18, 2012 at 1:14 PM

Maybe small business owners and people who have actually had to earn something were finally polled.

kim roy on July 18, 2012 at 1:14 PM

Jindal/West……nice! Wonder why Gov Jindal didn’t run this time?

sunshinek67 on July 18, 2012 at 1:18 PM

Slainte on July 18, 2012 at 1:08 PM

OK! got it now! Romney supporters think that everyone that smoked pot is a DRUG ADDICT:

Long a staunch proponent of marijuana legalization, Johnson flirts with overt libertarianism: “Nowhere in the constitution does it say what we can or cannot put in our own bodies by our own choice.” Including, he says, heroin and cocaine. “I suggest that if we legalize marijuana, this country will take giant steps to what I would call rational drug policy, which starts with looking at drugs first as a health issue, rather than a criminal justice issue.”

Although he currently espouses the legalization of marijuana only—which he thinks will make the world “a better place,” reaping financial rewards and lowering crime—he hints that the Portuguese model of decriminalizing all drugs and treating them primarily as a health issue should be our national model: “Why wouldn’t it work in the United States?” He notes that heroin use has dropped by half in Portugal in the ten years since that country decriminalized all drugs.

Gary Johnson 2012: Because Romney and 0bama want to lock up all pot smokers. /smug

DannoJyd on July 18, 2012 at 1:18 PM

If Romney is my best for the time, so be it.

BlaxPac on July 18, 2012 at 1:11 PM

Another commenter used the word “strategic,” and that is what my vote is.

If Romney holds conservative in office, great. If he tacks back to the left, then at least we have bought four years.

davidk on July 18, 2012 at 1:19 PM

We’re always told how enthusiastic GOP voters are and how much money Team Romney’s rolling in. And yet Romney consistently trails.

ddrintn on July 18, 2012 at 10:46 AM

That’s assuming you wish to believe the LSM and their polls. I don’t unless I get the breakdowns and even then I’m skeptical.

It is only mid-July and they are already calling Romney a felon. That doesn’t sound like a well-oiled, in command campaign.

Now why would that be? And why worry about it extensively?

The Obama campaign and his minions are only going to get stupider and more desperate in the coming months if this is any indication. I’m not entirely sure why you have to spread your *unnecessary* doom and gloom. If it’s a Palin thing you do her and yourself no favors.

It’s either Romney or Obama. Romney is not ideal by a long shot, but right now the status quo for the next four years is looking mighty fine as opposed to the alternative.

kim roy on July 18, 2012 at 1:20 PM

I do see that Ed has made the Palin cult members here enthusiastic in the last couple of days.

Finally, some more Palin threads they can post 100 times each in.

Moesart on July 18, 2012 at 1:20 PM

Could it be that Americans will not just allow the commie Democrats to herd them like sheep onto the Democrat Party “cheap but free dirty blanket supplied reservations’.

Go Figure…

If you want to live on a U.S. Goverment Reservation vist Pine Ridge Reservation.

The choice could not be any more clear that that.

At what price your freedom and liberty?

APACHEWHOKNOWS on July 18, 2012 at 1:21 PM

And since there was no tolerable viable electable 3rd Party candidate at the time, I took my chance on a long shot against a sure loser bet.

BlaxPac on July 18, 2012 at 1:14 PM

You should be very glad that Johnson will remain a viable third party candidate then since Romney is going to have as the keynote speaker at the Republican[???] Convention Chris Christie, who supports gun control, amnesty, Obamacare and climate legislation. Now we know where his values lie.

DannoJyd on July 18, 2012 at 1:22 PM

Yes, you freaking moron. YOU posted it.

Chuck Schick on July 18, 2012 at 1:08 PM

You really need to replace that antique monitor since it is YOU who thinks Romney is the generic republican candidate [snicker] and you cannot even find half of my posts here.

DannoJyd on July 18, 2012 at 1:24 PM

We’re always told how enthusiastic GOP voters are and how much money Team Romney’s rolling in. And yet Romney consistently trails.

ddrintn on July 18, 2012 at 10:46 AM

That’s assuming you wish to believe the LSM and their polls. I don’t unless I get the breakdowns and even then I’m skeptical.

kim roy on July 18, 2012 at 1:20 PM

The problem is that the only reason Romney’s the nominee is because of the LSM and their polls.

ddrintn on July 18, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Del Dolemonte on July 18, 2012 at 12:38 PM

That is quite a straw man argument you post there, doubly so since so many Rom Me supporters sat out the election in 2008, thus giving us 4 years of 0bama.

DannoJyd on July 18, 2012 at 1:01 PM

Expert on straw men checks in.

As for the second part of your post, it’s simply too stupid to respond to.

F-

Now tell us again why you’re voting for O’bama in November.

Del Dolemonte on July 18, 2012 at 1:25 PM

So, uh, when does that happen, Bradky? I thought Mr Electable Inevitable would be up by at least 5 or 6 by now.

ddrintn on July 18, 2012 at 11:30 AM

Well, that means then that he SHOULD be, just because that was ddrintn’s expectation.

Good Lt on July 18, 2012 at 11:54 AM

No, not only my expectation. Romney was sold as Mr Electable. Why, he was even going to turn states like NH, VA, IA, CO, PA and MI red.

ddrintn on July 18, 2012 at 1:28 PM

You really need to replace that antique monitor since it is YOU who thinks Romney is the generic republican candidate [snicker] and you cannot even find half of my posts here.

DannoJyd on July 18, 2012 at 1:24 PM

I’ll take that as your concession. Your point was not borne out by your posts. This is probably why you pretended they weren’t your posts.

Try opening the garage the next time you put in a new air scoop on the Chevy.

Chuck Schick on July 18, 2012 at 1:29 PM

No, not only my expectation. Romney was sold as Mr Electable. Why, he was even going to turn states like NH, VA, IA, CO, PA and MI red.

ddrintn on July 18, 2012 at 1:28 PM

Who promised that?

Chuck Schick on July 18, 2012 at 1:30 PM

Finally, some more Palin threads they can post 100 times each in.

Moesart on July 18, 2012 at 1:20 PM

Well you know the number of comments racked up is directly related to a persons relevance in the world or something.

Buttercup on July 18, 2012 at 1:31 PM

Gary Johnson 2012: Because Romney and 0bama want to lock up all pot smokers. /smug

DannoJyd on July 18, 2012 at 1:18 PM

OMG, even on *THAT* you missed the finish line.

Gary Johnson want’s to “Legalize Pot”? Fine We agree on that, but probably not the same way or outcome….I still wont vote for him because he wont win…thus a wasted vote at best, and a vote FOR Obama at worst.

I will gladly, GLADLY donate 100 Kenyan Dollars to Gary Johnson Inaugural Presidential Ball if you can give me *any* reason to believe he has the name recognition and frankly the smarts to be more than a 1 trick pony on ONE issue a mainstream voter like me will support.

BlaxPac on July 18, 2012 at 1:32 PM

Pelosi has formally condoned bailing from the SS Obama

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/07/pelosi-to-democrats-skip-the-convention-this-year-run-for-your-lives

*snicker*

workingclass artist on July 18, 2012 at 1:38 PM

No, not only my expectation. Romney was sold as Mr Electable. Why, he was even going to turn states like NH, VA, IA, CO, PA and MI red.

ddrintn on July 18, 2012 at 1:28 PM

Who promised that?

Chuck Schick on July 18, 2012 at 1:30 PM

So what was the rationale for nominating him? Because he so closely reflects our own beliefs and values?

ddrintn on July 18, 2012 at 1:45 PM

The problem is that the only reason Romney’s the nominee is because of the LSM and their polls.

ddrintn on July 18, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Noted you had nothing else to say about the rest of the post.

But to address the only thing you felt comfortable with – thanks for making the point for me – that they use these polls to attempt manipulate the easily manipulable to get the intended result.

So your point is? Perhaps it’s time to move elsewhere if the country is populated by idiots who are easily swayed by polls because that means Obama’s going to win irregardless.

Personally, I don’t share your desire to wear this particular tinfoil hat. I have too many already. There were no good candidates this run through and Romney had the smarts (however you wish to define this) to be the last man standing. That’s all that happened.

kim roy on July 18, 2012 at 1:45 PM

Romney was sold as Mr Electable. Why, he was even going to turn states like NH, VA, IA, CO, PA and MI red.

ddrintn on July 18, 2012 at 1:28 PM

Sorry, Uncle Leo, but New Hampshire turned Red in 2010. We fired both of our Democrat US Representatives, elected Kelly Ayotte Senator, took back our State Legislature (which is one of the largest such bodies in the English speaking world) and scared the bejeezus out of our Democrat Governor, who has announced he’s standing down after November’s election.

You RDSers really need shovels for each hand.

F-

Del Dolemonte on July 18, 2012 at 1:46 PM

I do see that Ed has made the Palin cult members here enthusiastic in the last couple of days.

Finally, some more Palin threads they can post 100 times each in.

Moesart on July 18, 2012 at 1:20 PM

Doesn’t say much for the Romney Cult when the usual ‘bots struggle to get a Romney thread up to 200 comments.

ddrintn on July 18, 2012 at 1:46 PM

Don’t hit me with negative waves
so early in the morning.

Don’t hit me with negative waves
so early in the morning Moriarty.

Thanks for that flashback!

Classic!

Tenwheeler on July 18, 2012 at 1:48 PM

Sorry, Uncle Leo, but New Hampshire turned Red in 2010.

Del Dolemonte on July 18, 2012 at 1:46 PM

And now it’s blue again, pops.

F-

ddrintn on July 18, 2012 at 1:48 PM

So what was the rationale for nominating him? Because he so closely reflects our own beliefs and values?

ddrintn on July 18, 2012 at 1:45 PM

No, I asked you who promised “he was even going to turn states like NH, VA, IA, CO, PA and MI red.”.

That was your claim.

Chuck Schick on July 18, 2012 at 1:50 PM

Doesn’t say much for the Romney Cult when the usual ‘bots struggle to get a Romney thread up to 200 comments.

ddrintn on July 18, 2012 at 1:46 PM

Doesn’t it suggest they have a better use for their time than posting the exact same thing over and over again to no avail, as you do?

Chuck Schick on July 18, 2012 at 1:51 PM

I’ll take that as your concession. Your point was not borne out by your posts. This is probably why you pretended they weren’t your posts.

Chuck Schick on July 18, 2012 at 1:29 PM

DUDE! Take your meds!

BTW, my new 2003 Chevy S-10 Extreme has no hood scoop.

PS: That picture is not of the one I own.

DannoJyd on July 18, 2012 at 1:52 PM

BlaxPac on July 18, 2012 at 1:32 PM

Don’t you fret. With the poor way Romney is running his campaign it won’t be long before you too get one of my TYS posts.

DannoJyd on July 18, 2012 at 1:55 PM

Doesn’t say much for the Romney Cult when the usual ‘bots struggle to get a Romney thread up to 200 comments.

ddrintn on July 18, 2012 at 1:46 PM

Maybe it’s because half of the comments are yours and Danno boys.
You poison every Romney thread to keep others away. But that’s your job. Hope you are paid by the post.

bluealice on July 18, 2012 at 1:57 PM

Republican enthusiasm about voting this year has shot up

Amazing! Mr. Obama is capable of producing some good results after all…

lynncgb on July 18, 2012 at 2:01 PM

Doesn’t it suggest they have a better use for their time than posting the exact same thing over and over again to no avail, as you do?

Chuck Schick on July 18, 2012 at 1:51 PM

To be fair, his only other option is to sit in the back seat of the car and almost hit his sister over and over again while yelling “I’m not hitting her!”, which is why he feels he has the time to comment here about a million times a day.

HTL on July 18, 2012 at 2:05 PM

Don’t you fret. With the poor way Romney is running his campaign it won’t be long before you too get one of my TYS posts.

DannoJyd on July 18, 2012 at 1:55 PM

Danno, I’m sure you are a true believer, but you’ll forgive me if i not surprised if Romney is the candidate.

As for that, I may not be able to predict the future that well, but i can be sure to bet my rent money that the words President Gary Johnson won’t be uttered by anyone except for Gary Johnson…and you Nov 5th.

In fact I bet $200 Kenyan Dollars on it.

BlaxPac on July 18, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Sorry, Uncle Leo, but New Hampshire turned Red in 2010.

Del Dolemonte on July 18, 2012 at 1:46 PM

And now it’s blue again, pops.

F-

ddrintn on July 18, 2012 at 1:48 PM

Where in New Hampshire do you live? Oh, that’s right, you don’t. I do.

PS, last night the new NH WMUR poll came out. O’bama’s lost half of his lead over Romney in the past 8 weeks, and now the two are within the margin of error here.

And the Republican candidate for NH Governor is leading his Dem “opponent” by 6 points.

F-

Del Dolemonte on July 18, 2012 at 2:10 PM

BTW, my new 2003 Chevy S-10 Extreme has no hood scoop.

PS: That picture is not of the one I own.

DannoJyd on July 18, 2012 at 1:52 PM

Well, that was a relief!

Chuck Schick on July 18, 2012 at 2:16 PM

Where in New Hampshire do you live? Oh, that’s right, you don’t. I do.

Del Dolemonte on July 18, 2012 at 2:10 PM

So by virtue of the fact that you live in NH, you’re a ‘bot, therefore the state will go Romney. LOL What logic. Romney’s trailing.

So what was the rationale for nominating him? Because he so closely reflects our own beliefs and values?

ddrintn on July 18, 2012 at 1:45 PM

No, I asked you who promised “he was even going to turn states like NH, VA, IA, CO, PA and MI red.”.

That was your claim.

Chuck Schick on July 18, 2012 at 1:50 PM

“Promised”? That wasn’t the word I used. Squishes don’t promise. They just wave vague carroty things. And don’t hand me the line of shit that no one said Romney isn’t going to win back these blue states. You know it’s not true.

So I ask again, what was the rationale for nominating Romney? ANY of those GOP candidates could’ve won the states McCain did. Any of them.

Maybe it’s because half of the comments are yours and Danno boys.
You poison every Romney thread to keep others away. But that’s your job. Hope you are paid by the post.

bluealice on July 18, 2012 at 1:57 PM

You mean they way you ‘bots have “poisoned” Palin threads here since 2008? Sucks, don’t it?

ddrintn on July 18, 2012 at 2:37 PM

In fact I bet $200 Kenyan Dollars on it.

BlaxPac on July 18, 2012 at 2:06 PM

News reports state that Gary’s polling numbers are increasing so don’t lose that money.

DannoJyd on July 18, 2012 at 2:37 PM

Voting for Romney with a heavy heart, because no matter who wins the Presidential election, I don’t see a good outcome for the country for at least a generation. [self-censoring my long depressing essay on why]

Mary in LA on July 18, 2012 at 2:38 PM

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